Bhakta Don Muntean

It's not "Jews" who are the real troublemakers. It's Zionists and their Evangelical stooges.

 

See www . nkusa . org

Well it ain't all so simple now and - i guess you think that zionists are the group in charge of our world - maybe you would rather it be the islamists?

I fully support the REAL Zionist effort! I would certainly befriend an evangelical but - i would NEVER befriend any islamist - how about you??

In the material world, fighting is altogether polluted by hate and enmity, and with the advent of modern mechanistic warfare, it has degraded into mere terrorism and indiscriminate butchery. The dharma of kshatriyas is to fight, but when they engage in a trial of arms, such as the one at Kurukshetra, they at least observe the rules of chivalry. No kshatriya would attack an enemy when he was disarmed or asleep. Equals fought only with equals on equal grounds. Battles were conducted in the spirit of sporting contests, and they were waged where civilians would not be in danger. All things deteriorate in time: Chivalry is dead, and the plan for our next big war has the military on both sides bunkered safely in underground Pentagons, while their weapons rain destruction onto each other’s defenseless civilian population. We have reason enough to dislike fighting, but we shouldn’t project all the despicable characteristics of fighting in the material world onto God’s transcendental fighting. The perversions are ours, not God’s.

...and so what does that mean here? The islamists are not observing any rules of combat - like the wearing of any markings or any uniform that contrasts them from civilians. That is only one example.

Yes our western nations are not dharmic in the true sense but - they are fighting irregular fighters who have even less regard for rules and rights - in that regard - we have to see that our support must go to them because - if they don't try to counter the islamic revolution - who shall?

What you call Israel is really Palestine.

 

There were hardly any Jews at all in Palestine a hundred years ago but since then they have followed a program of ethnic cleansing and pushed the Palestinians out of their homes, or bombed their homes, and ousted the Palestinians from their own homeland.

That is not true and you're saying it - doesn't make it so.

The Islamists who have hijacked the palestinians are however engaged in such a program - in Africa and - in other places too.

Why won't the palestinian leadership accept Israel's right to exist and enter peace talks - without their own genocide plans - why don't they ever engage in peace talks - in a sincere attitude?

Why won't the Palestinians stop the terror and rocket attacks?

They and their leaders are now quite hopeless - much like you!?

If there shall ever be peace it will come by way of a change in the palestinian leadership and - a change in their focus on violence.

Israelis have been very patient under these circumstances...

Bhakta Don,

 

The battle of Kurukshetra (spelling?) was fought in 18 days and no civilians were involved.

Uhm - WRONG! Didn't you know this:

TRANSLATION

I have killed many boys, brahmanas, well-wishers, friends, parents, preceptors and brothers. Though I live millions of years, I will not be relieved from the hell that awaits me for all these sins.

PURPORT

Whenever there is a war, there is certainly a massacre of many innocent living beings, such as boys, brahmanas and women, whose killing is considered to be the greatest of sins. They are all innocent creatures, and in all circumstances killing of them is forbidden in the scriptures. Maharaja Yudhisthira was aware of these mass killings. Similarly, there were friends, parents and preceptors also on both sides, and all of them were killed. It was simply horrible for him to think of such killing, and therefore he was thinking of residing in hell for millions and billions of years. [sB 1.8.49]

So please do not say "no civilians were involved" in "The battle of Kurukshetra" - if you didn't know it before - you know it now.

Prabhupada says: Whenever there is a war, there is certainly a massacre of many innocent living beings

The Democrats have won the Senate

 

Yo Dead Duck Bush!

 

Less power today than yesterday, Mr Bush!!

 

Way to go!!!

 

And in his next life he will certainly go to hell for the sins he is guilty of. 650,000 Iraqis dead and even more will die, it seems, before the Crusaders go back to where they came from.

 

Who was the war for anyhow? It is clear now that war was waged so the oil-men could get richer. Saddam never had any WMD - Bush was either wrong or lying when he said that the USA should go to war against Iraq because they had WMD's.

 

Bush and his barbecue buddies will surely go to the special hell reserved for cow-killers. Amen to that.

...yes kula u decide who goes to hell...in future - you may be able to help your heros send some of these "Crusaders" - to the so-called front of the line - are you on the 'watch list' yet? You aught to be.

Oh yes, how terrible if someone who tried to institute a system of national health care for all Americans, such as they have in the 70 other industrialized countries in the world, will win.

 

I guess when we are employed by the Federal Government with our Cost-of-Living Allowance, paid vacations, paid sick days, medical insurance for the rest of your life then as a compassionate Vaisnava we are not into supporting someone into providing health care for the 45 million Americans with no health insurance.

 

Better that the kids already existing don't have any medical coverage, great idea, I'll be sure to let any children you may have spawned when you were a "ganga-smoking surfer" who grew up with no medical coverage to know that.

So if ms. clintstone wraps her power-mad programs in a 'for the people' healthcare program - then she must be okay!? I think she has commie leanings...

What is that? You accuse me of producing unwanted children? Yer lost. I'm not a father to anyone - I never had kids - with anyone. What about you?

<table><tbody><tr><td valign="top">Source: CNA</td></tr><tr><td> </td><td valign="top">Published: November 8, 2006 </td></tr><tr><td> </td><td valign="top"></td></tr></tbody></table><!-- Israel gets away with murder while Americans follow election results -->Israel launched more attacks in the northern part of the Gaza Strip early on Wednesday.

 

Israeli tank shells and rockets fired from Israeli helicopters suddenly crashed into Beit Hanoun early Wednesday though Israeli forces had pulled out Tuesday after a week-long military operation.

 

This morning's offensive left at least 18 dead, including children and women, and many others injured.

 

Efforts are under way to rescue people, dead or alive, from

the wreckage of buildings knocked down during the Israeli attack.

When hamas stops their rocket attacks I'm quite sure these incursions will cease - but of course - you don't mention the attacks on Israel that broght this on...

Vote democrat and you'll see the focus go from the war on terror to the war on marijuana - yes that's correct under clintstone more people were busted than under Mr. Bush - go figure - yup and of course - let's not forget that the democrats would give the world to the islamists - just like you would too.

And I urge everybody to vote for third party candidates. Both ruling parties in US are completely corrupted and sold to special interst groups. US citizens must balance these crooks with a third party or an independent set of elected officials.

 

I vote Libertarian, as usual

...yes throw away your vote!

I urge Americans to support the Republican Party and their government - in today's elections.

They may seem to have created so many problems with Iraq but - the truth is - in the long term Americans shall be thankful that the Republicans were not afraid of addressing the 'islamic revolution'.

I urge Americans to support their Republican government in today's elections.

It should be mentioned that I have for some time now endorsed and supported the U.S. administration's actions to check the global islamic revolution - however - as evidenced by many postings by me on this forum - I didn't always.

I certainly advocated that the global islamic revolution needed to be checked but - due to certian factors I felt that the U.S. should not be involved - I certianly think that was shortsighted.

We have to encourage our leaders in this connection because the left is trying very severely to undermine the whole effort.

If the efforts to check the islamists fail - then - the free world shall regret not supporting the Bush administration... ...there is still time to get behind this effort and - I urge Canadians and Americans to support their Conservative and Republican governments.

The others [Democrats/Liberals/NDP] are going to try to "negotiate" with these irregular fighters - at the expense of Israel in the short term and - ultimately - at all our expense.

It is regretted if any of my past-postings helped to make any people to look down on the noted efforts of the U.S. administration!

I would like to say that I'm very pleased that the Liberals lost the January 2006 election - VERY PLEASED that we have a Conservative government that understands things better than the Liberals and most especially the NDP.

Yes with the Conservatives and the Republicans there is now a better chance of a NEEDED 'continental resolve' to deal 'the issues' which are a threat to North America.

So in any case - I have spent a great deal of time over the last five years posting about all these problems - critical of that which is jaded both 'here' and 'there' and - it is my hope that our present western leaders are going to continue to fight this war on terror - not as counter-points but rather - as agents of justice...especially now.

I know that our western leaders shall serve this noted 'justice' aptly!

It would seem logical that the location of the solid foundation noted is going to have to be the U.S. and Canada - with little help expected from the E.U. [and that is for the best for now anyway] who seem to have other limited ideas on how to deal with these noted issues....

So for anyone reading my past postings I just wanted this to be known.

I was wrong to support the Liberals!

I was wrong to vote Liberal...

Now I do have a better perspective - I endorse and support the U.S. administration's actions to check the global islamic revolution - I didn't then. I certainly advocated that the global islamic revolution needed to be checked but - that the U.S. should not be involved I certianly think that was shortsighted. We have to encourage our leaders in this connection because the left wing is trying very much to undermine the whole effort.

If their efforts to check the islamists fail - then - the free world shall regret not supporting the Bush administration. There is still time to get behind this effort and - I urge Canadians and Americans to support their Conservative and Republican governments. The others [Democrats and Liberals/NDP] are going to try to "negotiate" with these irregular fighters - at the expense of Israel in the short term and - ultimately - at all our expense.

It is regretted if my any of my past-postings helped to make any people to look down on the noted efforts of the U.S. administration!

I'm very pleased that the Liberals lost the January 2006 election - VERY PLEASED that we have a Conservative government that understands things better than the Liberals and most especially the NDP.

Yes with the Conservatives and the Republicans there is now a better chance of a NEEDED 'continental resolve' to deal 'the issues' which are a threat to North America.

Moore was/is wrong - that is why he and his propaganda movie is mostly forgotten now [and voters in Canada ignored his noted letter] - if he were really smart - he would do a movie on the islamic revolution - a proper movie that would help people to see the danger for what it is - a movie to help prevent others from falling into this asuric 'revolution'.

So in any case - I have spent a great deal of time over the last five years posting about all these problems - critical of that which is jaded both 'here' and 'there' and - it is my hope that our western leaders are going to continue to fight this war on terror - not as counter-points but rather - as agents of justice.

I know that our western leaders shall serve this noted 'justice' aptly!

It would seem logical that the location of the solid foundation noted is going to have to be the U.S. and Canada - with little help expected from the E.U. [and that is for the best for now anyway] who seem to have other limited ideas on how to deal with these noted issues....

So in any case - i just wanted to mention this point again:

I'm very pleased that the Liberals lost the January 2006 election - VERY PLEASED that we have a Conservative government that understands things better than the Liberals and most especially - the NDP.

All Glories to Bhakti Svarupa Damodara Swami Sripada!

Please help me, I really want to get a largish murti of Radha Krisna with a cow behind them, my family would find this the most endearing form in which to worship Krishna however I can't seem to find this murti anywhere, it is very easy to find beautiful murtis of Radha Krishna, or Krishna with a cow, but not Radha Krishna with a cow.

 

I live in the UK but have had no luck in finding, I go to the ISKCON temple in Watford quite often (Bhaktivedanta Manor) but they have no such murtis.

 

If you know of anywhere in the UK where I can get such a murti please let me know.

 

Jay Shree Krishna

Hari Bolo!

Yes there is such a place! Of course I haven't seen a murti of Radha Krishna with a cow - but there are many nice ones - one is 17.5 inches and only $90.00 US - not bad at all.

They can ship anywhere - even if you have no credit card - you can mail yer payment and then they will ship yer murti to you.

The murtis at the other site noted here are without doubt very nice but - they are also very expensive - so - here is the alternative:

http://www.krishnaculture.com/cgi-bin/miva?Merchant2/merchant.mv+Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=KC&Category_Code=PMURT

Hope you find some murti you like there!

Sorrow

The sweet smell of a great sorrow lies over the land

Plumes of smoke rise and merge into the leaden sky:

A man lies and dreams of green fields and rivers,

But awakes to a morning with no reason for waking

He's haunted by the memory of a lost paradise

In his youth or a dream, he can't be precise

He's chained forever to a world that's departed

It's not enough, it's not enough

His blood has frozen & curdled with fright

His knees have trembled & given way in the night

His hand has weakened at the moment of truth

His step has faltered

One world, one soul

Time pass, the river rolls

And he talks to the river of lost love and dedication

And silent replies that swirl invitation

Flow dark and troubled to an oily sea

A grim intimation of what is to be

There's an unceasing wind that blows through this night

And there's dust in my eyes, that blinds my sight

And silence that speaks so much louder than words,

Of promises broken

[pink floyd - a momentary lapse of reason]

Yes the Iraqi peoples cannot avoid the result of their former leader having broken all of his promises. Broken promises to the Iraqi people and - broken promises to the world.

The Iraqis must understand that there is hope for a 'new day' a day better than the one before all this began - yet - the false promises of the irregular fighters which prevents that 'new day' from adventing...must be rejected enmasse.

Suchandra had a point here, whomsoever dies in this age during the war wouldnt go to heaven if not hell!!! The war is not a Dharmayuddha, its filled with lots of dirty tacticts. No kings lol, the politicians are behind the wars, n they never comeinto the battle field.....And when the civilians die in the war, what do ya expect more? a Heaven , a hell ???? Rebirth would be a mercy from krishna:smash:

...in this dirty age there is this war and - on the one side there are these irregular fighters and - they have an irregular empire building program - to be realized through their islamic revolution.

One the other side - we [mostly] have the western leaders and the 'free world' who are not bent in the manner of the irregular fighters and - who are not a threat to the whole of the world - in the manner that the irregular fighters are.

That is a fact. Sure western leaders are full of faults - this is kali yuga after all - yet - despite all these faults - they are standing up to the acute threat that is advanced by these irregular fighters - they have understood that this is a threat - not be ignored.

It is NOT an "oil war"...and that should be clear by now?

It is clear that despite the fact our leaders are prone to mistakes and at times some appear power mad themselves - we must support them in this 'war'.

How many of us would want to live within a "convert or die" islamist world? I don't know anyone who would - do you?

Still someone who hasn't understood the rule - even if Israel is wrong - they are right! Paradox? Think twice, you might find the answer, Kula!

No - in yer convoluted world it's - even if Israel is right - they are wrong! [because they're jews]

LOL! we DO know that Israeli jets fired over a German navy ship

 

That is a hostile act of a provocative nature, illegal under international law. German ship was part of the UN deployment and Israel knows that. There were several such provocative incidents in Lebanon recently, including one with the French tank unit. IDF killed quite a few UN observers in the last two years in very deliberate attacks. UN peace keepers are very weary of the risks posed by deliberate Israeli attacks and do not trust that country very much.

 

and many still remember the USS Liberty attacked by Israel in 1967, when 34 American servicemen were killed.

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/ussliberty.html

Oh well...who cares? Not Me! If you think for one moment that it was on purpose - then you really are that thick....

<table><tbody><tr><td valign="top">Source: Reuters</td></tr><tr><td> </td><td valign="top"></td></tr><tr><td> </td><td valign="top"></td></tr></tbody></table><!-- These people are unbelievably stupid. -->Israeli jets fire over German navy ship off Lebanon

 

Wed Oct 25, 2006 6:05 PM BST

 

BERLIN (Reuters) - Two Israeli warplanes have fired over a German naval vessel patrolling off the Lebanese coast, the Defence Ministry in Berlin said on Wednesday.

 

The daily Der Tagesspiegel quoted a German junior defence minister as telling a parliamentary committee that two Israeli F-16 fighters had flown low over the ship, firing twice.

 

The jets also activated infra-red countermeasures to ward off any rocket attack, the paper quoted him as saying, in an advance release from Thursday's edition.

 

The minister did not say when the incident happened or what had caused it.

"I can confirm that there was an incident," a ministry spokesman said on Wednesday. He declined to give further details as an investigation was under way.

 

An Israeli military spokeswoman said she was checking the report.

 

Germany assumed command of a United Nations naval force off Lebanon 10 days ago, and has sent eight ships and 1,000 service personnel to join the international peace operation in the region.

 

The naval force is charged with preventing weapons smuggling and helping maintain a cease-fire between Israel and the Lebanese Islamic militant group Hezbollah.

So we don't even know what really happened and you're already casting the aspersions on Israel...true to your MO.

ALL such abominable acts must be condemned.****

 

Yes, only you NEVER condemn Islamic acts of violence and instead restrict yourself to posting fairytales and folklores about Israel.

Yes it's that disinformation program about Israel which he centers on...

because these people posess TRIBAL CONSCIOUSNESS they are described by me in that fashion. loose your tribality BDM and develop spiritual consciousness, where ALL living entities are equally dear to Krsna: Jews, Arabs, Muslims, Christians, etc. be just BDM, expose evil wherever it may be.

 

there are many here who present the unquestionably evil acts of the Muslim extremists - my job is to balance that presentation. ALL such abominable acts must be condemned.

because these people posess TRIBAL CONSCIOUSNESS they are described by me in that fashion

A predictable reply from you... "these people" - you mean hebrews!

here are many here who present the unquestionably evil acts of the Muslim extremists - my job is to balance that presentation.

It's not just their "unquestionably evil acts" - it's their islamic revolution - these 'actions' are not defensive in the least - they are offensive with a goal to inducing an islamist revolution.

That may have been the first time i saw you post 'the unquestionably evil acts of the Muslim extremists' - however - that doesn't negate your other issues as noted...

<table><tbody><tr><td valign="top">Source: Palestine News Network</td></tr><tr><td> </td><td valign="top">Published: October 5, 2006 Author: Sa'ed Al Shouhki</td></tr><tr><td> </td><td valign="top"></td></tr></tbody></table>

 

<!-- More not-ready-for-American-prime-time news -->Today in the southern West Bank's Hebron District a heavily armed group of Israeli settlers broke into the Halhoul Village Mosque and began performing Jewish religious services.

In contrast to the irregular fighters you support - who just bomb holy places...

I spoke many times on this forum about my answer to the problem of islamic terrorism but you ignore it because you dont like it, and you have no stomach for it as it would cost your tribe land and money. so the war continues, because on both sides people like you add fuel to the fire by supporting injustice and hate.

 

 

 

I am worried about Vaishnavas supporting adharmic activities and thus contaminating our movement.

 

IT IS PEOPLE LIKE YOU who drag our movement into the gutter of world politics, partiality and support for gross injustice. Idiots like a GBC member Harivilas, who publicly states he supports massive bombing of Islamic countries in order to "make room for Krsna consciousness". That guy is clueless about what dharma realy is, and what spreads Krsna consciousnes. but... surprise, surprise... he also happens to be the member of your tribe. I doubt both of you really care about our movement - all you seem to care about is your own pet sectarian cause.

You write - "also happens to be a member of your tribe" - just see it shine through - you really do hate jews! You may side-step but your many comments prove otherwise.

You may have done trancendental things - like book distribution - but - so did many others in ISKCON who've later blooped - for all you've done - you've a very narrow understanding. Having done all you've done - it hasn't made you an expert...

You systematically rail against jews and israel and - we the readers don't ever see you do the same with your islamist heros!

You say you have spoken many times about your answer to this problem - well that's odd because I read everything you post - for more than a year now and - you've said nothing to this effect.

I don't think you care about our movement either.