Pita das

God being the first being before anything exsited was compelete and happy with and in Himself being the sum bonum Srila Prabhupada has explained to us He is Bhagavan processing all quailties in full all beautiful full of all knowegde all famous full of all strength and fully renounced of everything all blissful and ever enceasing in all of these quailities.

This is the criteria of the Supreme Absolute Truth know by us as Sri Krishna Bhagavan.

At one point in the Lords mood and blissful enjoyment He desires relationship

out of His own sweet will and personifies He internal emotions His pleasure potenty in Srimate Radharani and then there are two

Out of His sweet will He latter again expands into a compelte dupicate of Himself and this is Lord Balarama found this point all His expansions appear of 3 varities Vishnu tatvas Shiva tatva and jiva tatva.

At the same time the oringal Superme Abouslute truth never becomes less as all of these expansion imanate from Him.

The 3 varitey Jiva tatava are different from the others .

This Tatva is of a marinal quailty being haveing a nature of which in rare cases is defective due to the freedom which the realtionship they were created for demains

and some jivas become at once indepentant of thier source like a screw which has fallen from a machine in a factory.

because the form of jiva decides to indepentantly search for its enjoyment away from its source Krishna then glanecs at His material engery known as Durga and She goes about makeing a place in which this jiva may live in the illison of indepenance.

so that engery which the jiva decides to enjoy and controll milking out enjoyment in a separate way becomes its jail .

The Good new is that only afew screws fall to the floor of the factory most are eternally willing to enjoy with Thier Source Shri Shri Radha Krishna and enjoy with them.

The bad new is we are the fallen screws

God Krishna glanced at material engery Goddess Durga and threw her agents Brahma man was created there are 400,000 varities of humans within the universe

God Krishna glanced at material engery Goddess Durga and threw her agents Brahma man was created there are 400,000 varities of humans within the universe

very sweet Gouri Das Prabhuji please tell us more

Theroies are based on assumtions Reality is based on facts.

Therioes are replaced by other theroies

facts eventually rise up .

I pray that Goswami Maharaja has entered into Radha Krishna Nitya Leela .

I lament loseing him I Love him deeply

The lost of the recorded tapes is not my lost prabhuji it is the lost of Human society

Theroies are based on assumtions Reality is based on facts.

Therioes are replaced by other theroies

facts eventually rise up .

I pray that Goswami Maharaja has entered into Radha Krishna Nitya Leela .

I lament loseing him I Love him deeply

The lost of the recorded tapes is not my lost prabhuji it is the lost of Human society

Dear Makhanmisra

Please acceapt my humble respects. Goswami Maharaja has now been taken by Krishna we pray to Srila Prabhupada place him as an atom at His Divine Graces Lotus Feet.

My story is factual and acurate as any of Goswmai Maharajas god brothers know well.

The way Maharaja related to his godbrothers and male discilps whom were within his close range were very doffrent that they way his may of treated a say Indian gentlemen or lady comming to hear him

speak .

There is a very good chance that Maharaja has gone Back to where Ever Srila Prabhupada is at present We sencerly hope this for him

We also can never agree with some of his plocies of removeing many of the last insruction of Srila prabhupada he recorded while being His Divine Graces secertary.

This was not service to the Acarya but a dis service .

No one may decide to step over the head of Shri Guru without reprecussions

Despite what ever faults Maharaja had I was very upset at hearing of his depature in such a way as it happened I senicerly pray that he left in a painless quick way with the Holy Name on His toungue.

Because my assoication with Maharaja was always at a close distance I have many statements and remenberences Im not so sure that the assembled devottees may be intrested to hear.'

What is good for devotional service we should reveal what is an obstalce and doesnt

draw closer to Krishna we should be expert enough to not to reveal even it may be the truth ,we must see the long staying effects

This Goswami Maharaja was very expert at speaking words which he felt would produce certian currents he felt the society need to move in.

Even we as his godbrothers could see that they were contradiction of what Srila Prabhupadas intructions were.

I am refering to over a hundred tapes from 1977 which Maharaj had in his possession and distrubted as the frist tapes of the Radha Dammodar tape minstry from 1978 untill about 1984 at which time I still have not been able to trace what happen to them from that point?

Sankarshan Das the Austin Temple Presidentwho was in charge and distrubting these tapes , we would now like to see placed back into the BBT Achvives where they should of been sent to afew weeks after being recorded.

As I have also related in the story this tapes of 1977 were being heard by many of the devottee brahmacaris of Huston Temple 1978 which has been confroimed to me by Ramasuran Prabhu recently as he was also hearing them then,

Others that were hearing then being played in the summer 1978 were Janardan das who is now with HH Naryana Maharaj,Mukunda Dutt,Kailki Das,Bhubaneswar Prabhu now in Shri Dham Vrindaban,Padubja Prabhu,Mahadeva Prabhu now in New Dwarka ,Radhanath Prabhu Now in San Deigo ,Sankaya Pundit Prabhu

and many others

We will have to encourge the information of how these tapes were lost or how they can be recovered I am now in the process of Contacting Sankarsan Prabhu as It seems to me he is the only living witness to thier actual whereabouts

Dear Makhanmisra

Please acceapt my humble respects. Goswami Maharaja has now been taken by Krishna we pray to Srila Prabhupada place him as an atom at His Divine Graces Lotus Feet.

My story is factual and acurate as any of Goswmai Maharajas god brothers know well.

The way Maharaja related to his godbrothers and male discilps whom were within his close range were very doffrent that they way his may of treated a say Indian gentlemen or lady comming to hear him

speak .

There is a very good chance that Maharaja has gone Back to where Ever Srila Prabhupada is at present We sencerly hope this for him

We also can never agree with some of his plocies of removeing many of the last insruction of Srila prabhupada he recorded while being His Divine Graces secertary.

This was not service to the Acarya but a dis service .

No one may decide to step over the head of Shri Guru without reprecussions

Despite what ever faults Maharaja had I was very upset at hearing of his depature in such a way as it happened I senicerly pray that he left in a painless quick way with the Holy Name on His toungue.

Because my assoication with Maharaja was always at a close distance I have many statements and remenberences Im not so sure that the assembled devottees may be intrested to hear.'

What is good for devotional service we should reveal what is an obstalce and doesnt

draw closer to Krishna we should be expert enough to not to reveal even it may be the truth ,we must see the long staying effects

This Goswami Maharaja was very expert at speaking words which he felt would produce certian currents he felt the society need to move in.

Even we as his godbrothers could see that they were contradiction of what Srila Prabhupadas intructions were.

I am refering to over a hundred tapes from 1977 which Maharaj had in his possession and distrubted as the frist tapes of the Radha Dammodar tape minstry from 1978 untill about 1984 at which time I still have not been able to trace what happen to them from that point?

Sankarshan Das the Austin Temple Presidentwho was in charge and distrubting these tapes , we would now like to see placed back into the BBT Achvives where they should of been sent to afew weeks after being recorded.

As I have also related in the story this tapes of 1977 were being heard by many of the devottee brahmacaris of Huston Temple 1978 which has been confroimed to me by Ramasuran Prabhu recently as he was also hearing them then,

Others that were hearing then being played in the summer 1978 were Janardan das who is now with HH Naryana Maharaj,Mukunda Dutt,Kailki Das,Bhubaneswar Prabhu now in Shri Dham Vrindaban,Padubja Prabhu,Mahadeva Prabhu now in New Dwarka ,Radhanath Prabhu Now in San Deigo ,Sankaya Pundit Prabhu

and many others

We will have to encourge the information of how these tapes were lost or how they can be recovered I am now in the process of Contacting Sankarsan Prabhu as It seems to me he is the only living witness to thier actual whereabouts

Goswami Maharaja is now in the compeltly purified postion whatever where his mistakes were made

Krishna has covered for them

In Gita Chapter 7/30

Those in full consciousness of Me.who know Me,the Supreme Presonality of Godhead ,to be the Supreme govering principle of the material maniestion and the lord of the demigods and all the methods of scarfice ,can understand me and know me even at the time of death

One who knew Goswami Maharaja would also know that this was the main topic of almost ever lecture he ever gave.

I would sometime become so bored by his repeative lectures on the same topics again and again

In HK temple Only the srimad Bhagavatum canto i was ever discussed.

So yesterday we have come to know the details that His Holiness met death at a high speed hitting a tree Killing him at once.

"Hare Krishna"

At once transfered

and He died instanly

"Hare Krishna"

wakeing up to the eternal reality of Radha Krishna

The unliminted bottomesless ocean of the mercy of srila Prabhupada, we can only amazine

Once Goswami told me of a great and foolish discilp of srila Prabhupada who His Divine Grace acceapted back after giving this man sannyas he left Srila Prabhupada to live with a so called sadhu person who would do magic tricks passing a coin from one ear to the next to cheat the public and earn money this person left His divine Grace Srila Prabhupada to learn this???

After some time this sannyas disclip returned and Srila Prabhupada at one reinstaed him in his orginal position he held before leaving.!!!????

Goswami Maharajs went to Srila Prabhupada and expressed

"How could you allow him back Srila Parbhupada he was doing such nonsense?

How can you be so mercyfull towards him"?

and Srila Prabhupadas reply was

"I must be so mercyful because Lord Chaitanya is so mercyiful."

sceptic

look threw your last post and you will see the pronouns him many times mentioned

in reference to the supreme .

If this reference for the Supreme were impersonal the pronoun It would be used

In the Great Purana of Narada ,Brihat Narada Purana it is stated

Hari Nama Hari Nama Hari Nama eva ka va lum kalow nas stava na stava na stva gati ran ata

Hari Nama the name of Lord Hari the chanting of Hare Krishna Maha mantra is the only process in this age to devolp love of God

na stava means only and here it is mentioned 3 times to stress that,

thats it!

according to Shree Narada Muni Mahajana (A great authority)whom you also quoted

Krish means repeated birth and death and Na means one who stops this.

So if we are to give a name for God Krishna is the most perfect.

He is the frist and then He expands into countless parts and never become less .

Just like when one take cups of water from the sea the sea never reduces.

Of these cups of ocean from the one we call Krishna there are two diffrent types one is eternally liberated and one is etrnally conditioned .

where the sea mets the land there is a shore

and when the jivas the indivual cups of Krishna become separted from them they must decide weither to remain within the wetness of the sea in a indivual relationship with the ocean of Krishna or to be separate from Him.

The sea is the chit world of eternal reality and the land is the a chit world which is different than the nature of the cup of water because it is illision tempory and of repeated birth and death

within this place the jiva is forced to be covered by 2 jackets the mind and the body

and its real eternal nature it forgets.

The mind constanlty tell idenifies itself as the body

It thinks it is hindu christian jain muslim jew male female fat tall ugly beautiful and struggles with hundreds and thousands of desires which never staisfy

Because these desires are in realation to the happiness of the mind and the body.

so there is a story of a old woman who see a sweet siging bird with a brass cage and buys the bird and cage and takes it home.

each day she very carefully polishes the brass cage but never feeds the bird within

soon when the bird become hungry it stops singing and the women laments ,why why isnt the bird siinging like before?

I polish the cage each day never thinkig to feed the bird.?

Soon then ofcourse the birds dies of hunger.

In the world of Maya Illison the a-chit world of repeated birth and dead we forget to feed the bird ,the spiritual nature which is whom we are and we can not find happiness

One who Chants Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare Hare Rama hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare Hare.

At once awakens the sleeping self and feeds the bird and becomes happy by tapping the ocean of happiness Lord Shree Krishna

Jivas are of two kinds 1)Nitya -Mukta eternally free

2) Nitya-Baddha eternally ensalved .

Free Jivas are never enslaved.they are serving the Supreme Lord in five functions

in His eternal blissful abode ,where there is no change,no desruction,no misery.

Jivas who enters there never comes back here.

The inconceiviable narrorest line of demarcation between land and water or the line where the land and water meet is called tata,

So also the meeting line of the chit world or the eternal world abode of the supreme Lord and the a-chit world or the region of Maya is called tata.

The power of the Supreme Lord displayed at the tata is known as Tatstha lying in the Tata or marginal power.

All the jivas being the display of this power have the inherent oscilling tendency and capibility of going to the chit or a chit world.

Tata not being a resting place ,jivas must go to this side or that ,those preferring the

a chit ,fell into the clucthes of the Octopus Maya,when these mortal customes of the mind and the body were put on him as a punishment.

In this Santanic frenzy in which the jiva dislikes the blissful and eternal service of his Master and prefers to quench his thirstful desires of enjoying matter,opens before him a perpetual spring of liquid fire of posin at which he begins to drink deep.

Thus in going to lord it over Maya,jiva becomes enslaved by her.

Jai Om Vishnu Pada Paramahumsa Srimat Bhakti Siddanta Saraswati Goswami Srila Prabhupada Ki Jaya

No it is not possible to practise Bhakti to the impersonal feature of the Absoulute Truth

WE can appricate the Sunshine as it comes into our room but we must understand its source and from that source the Sun Globe the persiding Diety of the Sun

then there is possiblilty of relationship and then there is possiblity of Love Prema Bhakti.

Krishna the orginal source the one who stops repeated birth and death He is the Object of Devotion so intelligence persons

direct thier love to the root of the tree as in watering ,then all other expansions of the Lord are satisfied as the limbs and branches are also satisfied in a watering process

I am very upset to hear of Goswami Maharajas passing .

NUMB

He was a very intense person, charming ferice ,highly intelligent and very funny also which was rarely shown to many.

When I think of my most favorite times with him it is with me in the Kitchen cooking .

I would greatly enjoy watching him enjoying the prasadam we had prepared for our Hong Kong Temple lunches.

He would say to me Pita das are you aware of the great amounts of rice you and Ramasurana are eating????

And then threw the lunch he would allways comment

He this prep is just right but that ones too salty this one needs to be more sweet and Oh this one I dont know how you have done this!!!!!!

How did you cook this eggplant ?

Who taught you how to cook this ?

It tastes exactly like the eggplant Srila Prabhupada used to prepare for us.!!!!!

So I am crying for my dear godbrother Goswami Maharaja

May Srila Prabhupada and Lord Chaitanya and Nityanada Prabhu who are oceans of mercy incarnate place him as an atom at their Lotus Feet.

In my last corresponsed with Maharaja I expressed the desire to be free from all responiblities and with purified hearts sit under the trees surrounding Shree Goverdon

and hear Srimad Bhagavatam together

may that day come soon.

All are welcome

Jaya Goura Nitai

Your Servant

Pita das

Rama Kesava I emailed you but the message has been returned to me

I can be contacted by email at

www.artmaya@hotmail.com or at

www.galjhmya@public.xm.fj.cn

Hari Bol

Arjuna inquired:Which are considered to be most perfect,those who are always property engaged in Your devotional service

or those who worship the impersonal Brahman,the unmanifested?

The Supreme Personality of Godhead said:

Those who fix thier minds on My personal form and are always engaged in worshipping Me with great and tansendental faith are considered by Me to be most prefect.

But those who fully worship the unmanifested,that which lies beyound the senses,the all prevailing,inconceiable,unchanging,fixed and immovable-by controlling the various senses and being equally disposed to everyone,such persons engaged in the welfare of all ,at last achieve Me

For those whose minds are attached to the unmanifested,impersonal feature of the Supreme,advancement is very troublesome.

To make progress in that discipline is always difficult for those who are embodied.

But those who worship Me,giving up all thier activities unto Me and being devoted to Me without deviation,engaged in devotional service and always meditating uponMe,haveing fixed thier minds upon Me,O son of Partha-for them Iam the swift deliverer from the ocean of birth and death.

Just fix you mind upon Me,the Supreme Personality of Godhead and engage all your intelligence in Me.Thus you will live in Me always ,without a doubt.

My dear Arjuna ,O winner of wealth,if you can not fix your mind upon Me without deviation,then follow the regulative principals of Bhakti Yoga.In this way develop a desire to attain Me.

Dear Love

this is the yoga which we are refering Bhakti yoga means to yoke and in this reference in means to yoke with the Origial

Cause of all Causes.

Because you have not seen anyone who has perfected yoga perefectly in the above mentioned way does not mean that there are not such persons .

I have seen and heard from afew ,seeing how they loved all because they Loved Krishna I can understand what is this love and compassion

We do love you just because you are His dormantly sleeping servant and His part and parcel.

If one looks at the digit zero 0 the vaule

is also zero.zero + zero = what? something other than zero ?

So how to squeese Love out of zero?

Once 1 is placed before zero there is vaule

it is now 10 and then another zero and 100

another and another and the vaule inceases eternally.

That one is Krishna ,place Him next this zero and recive the full benifit of cultivating renouciations but place zero and it is just toublesome effort with still zero as the sum total.

A true story for you and our readers.

I had a godbrother of whoes name I will not place here.

He was a very hard worker while I new him within ashram life.

Always he was very simple and cooked for the

devottees.

He was senior the me, my older godbrother he also served very long and hard in Shree Dham Mayapur a very sacred place of Shree Chaitanya Mahaprabhu apperence .

One day he seeing a superoir of the temple acting unjustly he lefted the ashram and walked, hicthed whatever from West Bengal accross Bangaldesh and ended up in Thailand.

In Thailand he entered a Buddhist Temple and as he told me he followed thier mediatition which he said was easy for him.

His named given by our Guru Maharaja also appears within the pastimes of Lord Buddha

and he told me our Guru Maharaja knew then that he was really a Buddhist thus giving him that name.???

In that temple he began eating non vegetarian food and after some time met one lady within the temple and left Thailand.

They then came to Taiwan where I was living

When I met him he had made and altar to the chinese God Gaung Gong and was giving some water

and non veg food (a bun stuffed withmeat)which he offered my friend whom I was cultivating in spitiual practises.

As my friend bit into the bun he said this is meat!

As I knew him as my superior and senoir godbrother I did not crictise him even he was saying very nonseneical things in ference to our Guru Maharaja.And offering us non veg food.

I just told him that I was happy to see he was worshipping Gaung Gong as this idol in China is worshiped because he was very faithful to his master.

Latter on I heard that he had put on Buddhist monks robes and had become a bit famous in Taiwan because he had vowed to make prostration around the whole island.

At least 300 miles around.

This took him much more than a year which he almost completed .

He made his prostrations along the road side and was hit by a truck and killed with only about a week time left.

I still love him but his position is unknown

In Figi our Krishna Kaliya temple was built

by the Punya family.

Vasudeva das The oldest brother in that family has two wifes which are sisters they have an adopted daughter.

He is the only person I have even known who has sucessufully carried this out.

The two ladies told us I do the cooking and my sister cleans

very rare I think Vasudeva I might add was a very sucessful business man in his younger years.

yes Bhagavat Gita is advailble in Chinese

from the BBT in Hong Kong.

There has been 2 translations so far.

The Chinese devottees tho in the mainland complaints are that it wasnt an improvement

on the frist translation?

They found many objectional references within that mislead the reader away from

Srila Prabhupadas original meaning?

They placed a critisme on vnn a year or so back????????????????

We actually havent any way to know?

Two non Chinese devottees were working on the last translation which is impossible.

Any Chinese birth person can understand how impossible a task it is to translate useing persons with 5 to 10 years Chinese learning

One of these prabhus uses a translator to give classes so it very unreal how he was

given the service to retranslate that which was already translated by Yasomati Suta Prabhu?

There was cristism that Yasos translations used words which one only finds in a dictionary .

He pesonally told me how difficult it is because he needed to use words which had no Buddhist afilliation with them which was difficult as Buddhist throught is deeply

staterated into the Chinese lanuage?

Yaso was also instructed by (Srila Prabhupada or present BBT authority)to remove any cristism of any goverment leaders which may appear.

If you are a Chinese speaker by birth it may be a nice service for you to take up and assit in.

You can contact His Holiness Gridhari Maharaja in Hong Kong

As Yaso is now with in the ritvik camp Im sure his translations althrought on going will not be printed any longer by the current BBT

[This message has been edited by Pita das (edited 01-31-2002).]

Al Glories to His Holiness Tripurari Maharaja may he continue for another hundred years

Spiritual Love is shown in full awareness of the original Cause and the eternal binding force of connection with this cause and ourselves.

That Cause is complete and ever increaseing and does not become less as It expands in to

every atom of its nature and at the same time maintians itself for itself compelte and independant.

Yoga is the science bestowed with the highest spiritual emotion to link with it

parts and parcels in loving realationship.

Cessation of this connection according to the cause is not possible.

Loving you is complelty possible as you are also part and parcel of the supreme original cause

Dear Love

We love you because we have learn what is love from a spiritual persective.

Then there is respect we respect others and say excuse me when we bumb into to them.

we refer to gentlemen as sir and ladies as Madam.

And then there is Dharama and Dharma is a nature which can not be separated from the item in this case ourselves .

Light will allways disenpate darkness and darkness can not resit its force.

As our parumguru has stated

Godhead is light and inorangce is nescience

where there is Godhead there can be darkness.

In this age Godhead is appearing in sound form of the Holy Names of God spiritual love is forcast to flood darkness of athiest concludison must draw back will will happen as each heart is effected and not threw Jihad

Mother Teresa was well know in the catholic chruch a little old nun in Calcutta.

While I was in India Moriji Desai led a campanion to remove Christian missionaries

who were converting the poor hindus to christian by feeding them,changing their ways of dress and cuture.

When he suggested that Mother Teresa should also be included she was soon given the Noble Peace Prise and then become internationally know .

This is how I remenber it then

Krishna in His form of time kills all living entities and He did notkill the Queens of Dwaraka as they were still present

after Krishnas disapperence.

This is decribed in Srimad Bhagavatum Canto 1 ch15 text 20

Arjuna discribes to his older brother Yudistira Maharaja this.

O Emperor,now Iam separated from my friend and dear most well wisher,the Supreme Personality of Godhead,and therefore my hearts appears to be void of everything.

In His absence I have been defeated by a numberof infidel cowherdmen while I was guarding the bodies of the wives of Krishna.

In srila Prabhupadas purport His Divine Grace says ,"the important point is how were the wives of Krishna not protected by Arjuna against mere cowherd men."?

Srila Prabhupada refers to Srila Visvanath Chakravatis comment on this verse as

Within the Vishnu and Brahma purana:

once the denizenzs of the heaven pleased Astakara Muni by thier service and were all rewarded as haveing the Lord Himself to be thier husband

Astakara Muni was curved in eight joints within his body and thus he moved in a rather stange fashion.

These same denizens ,daughters of the demigods found his movements very funny and laughed at him at which the muni became angry and curse them all ,that they would be kidnapped by rouges even they were to have the Lord as thier husband.

Latter on the girls once again please the muni by prayers and he again blessed them that they would regain thier husbands even after being robbed by rouges.

So to keep the words of the muni the Lord Himself appeared as cowherd men and kidnapped the Queens of Dwaraka from Arjuna

Otherwise Srila Prabhupada explains to us the Queens of Dwaraka would of disappeared at once the moment they were to be touched by the mundane hands of cowherd men.

Besides this Srila Prabhupada also tells us some of these wives were gopis who had prayed to become the wives of Krishna and after His departure retuned to thier places within Vrindaban after thier desires were fufilled

if you go into www.google.com and type bhairava there are many sites to source this info

There are many hundreds of Chinese devottees within China Mainland .

Im sure out of this number already there are many very serious ones.

The translations of Srila Prabhupadas books tho need to be refined as clearly as possible to assit them.

We have heard that the Buddhist scriptures had to be re tanslated at least 3 times until the proper meanings took effect and this can only be done by devottee translators and better by ones of Chinese birth.

China is rich in culture and tradition as is India.

They have also a more than 5000 year history.

Due to the population size tho the goverment must inforce strict controlls which is hard for the western mind to understand why.

What is real and true the Chinese people will never reject as on a whole I have never been within such an intelligence class of people.

Even maybe 75% are all country folk

They tho will study Lord Chaitanys message very deeply and when they see true examples

they will take up Krishna Consciousness

Like in India today much of what is known of religion is seen in Kung Fu movies

Which has no effects or use to society