Pankaja_Dasa

I would go back to when Krishna killed Paundaraka, who was trying to imitate Krishna as Vishnu. It says in Krishna Book that Krishna could'nt stop laughing. And when He killed Siksupala. In Mahabharata serial they didn't show Paundaraka, it would have been good. ! Paundraka! Hahaha. <param name="movie" value="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v237/Nityananda/misv/chop2.swf" /> <param name="quality" value="high" /> <param name="play" value="true" /> <param name="loop" value="true" /> <param name="bgcolor" value="#ffffff" /> <embed src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v237/Nityananda/misv/chop2.swf" width=644 height=494 bgcolor="#ffffff" quality="high" loop="true"> </object>

Distribute books, please Guru and Krishna = Get purified. It's the perfect crime (spiritual x)

Before I had visilization by Gurudeva's Grace, the ego is a wallless entity, dark in colour, with many coverings. Suffocating, and intoxciating. Mind-numbing, everywhere. Very very dark. Imagine yourself sitting in a place, with a darkwall, it is covering on all sides and you cannot see anything. At the same time you cannot move. Or even think. Almost null and void. No light. That's the material ego! Cannot put it into words, but it was total darkness. Maybe I was shown how being unspiritual is like. And how being spiritual I can be better situtated. One devotee said to me that, material pleasure is like eating stool it all tastes the same. Probably the ego likes stool. (it is material after all). But going back, the layers were amazing. There was so much to get rid of. Maybe it was Karma or something else. If I told this to somebody in street I would be sectioned and sent to a mental hostipal ( there is one in my home-town). Anyway, the mind is not as small as I thought it was. Its like the mind thinks its 'itself' the being. When the soul is the 'being'. The mind doesn't know what the soul is. Unless Gurudeva tells us.

Theres a list of people family line, in Pakistain. Dating back to 5000 years (this is from Indian, Sikh and Muslims). So there is a Guru 'list' like this as well But people tend to not believe in fairy tales. They will believe in their family line though.

Back to school to beat the crap out of some 'poeple'.

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Vedabase it says they could be birds from other planets who can here and died.

Lets all pray to the moon god for guidance. So we may understand his movements.

What we end up in a dogs womb. ?

All that comes by chanting? !!

Amazing, they are in burmuda triangle? They must pounce everytime an oceanliner goes past.

Thats how Christians then say there is no re-incarnation, and deny Vedic Scriptures. I think they say Dinosarus exsisted with man thousands of years ago as well (i read that on a site). I didn't even bat an eyelid lol

1 point for me:deal:

Purport: Less intelligent persons prepare plans to adjust to those calamities without knowing that the nature of this place is itself full of calamities. == I think its like family, etc. Adjust. Tell you truth I can't wait to get out from this place. It's like anywhere but here. (hell would be good place), at least in hell you know your gonna suffer. Here you don't know if your coming or going.

Visa I put that in, Prabhupada said, kicked out. Earth also, if you goto another country same. No visa no entry. (you have to pay for it as well). I would like to visit Moon one day If i can (i'm just joking).

It's planet Rahu. (reflection of the Moon). I think. So if they went they went to Rahu. (if who knows if they went). If they went to actual moon then Prabhupada said they would have been kicked out. (no visa).

I thought was like a wormhole. Portal, an actual stargate? Wonder why they closed it? Would have been handy. For some interplanertery travels. Is though. Just a small problem of getting mashed up into little pieces. We could change money and give it to Krishna! Jaya Prabhupada!!!!

- Isn't there a pathway to the Moon, through the planet Earth? A Gateway which is covered. OMG. I think the westerners stole all Vedic ideas. (Stargate). (Startgate Atlantis). Starwars!. I wonder how the Gateway works. Must be some Subtle Gateway, which is unknown to Scientists.

Contruction of the Universe, can't be easy can it? First get a Planet, then put in orbit. Wait the Moon should be further away, create some dimention, (4-D). Gateway, so seems Moon is closer. (I think once Kulapavana dasa said it's a reflection, of the Original Moon.). I don't know it seems it needs to be closer to be able to provide light, but far away enough to be closer to the sun, to get (it's brightness). But why?

Guru, Sadhu, Sastra. That's another subject, which I don't know a lot about. -

- Anybody claiming to be Avatara, it has to be in Sastra. Sastra is given by Krishna, so first we must go to it. If the person says it will be revealed later, then he has to show his Vishnu-form. If he says later.. Then this means he cannot show. Because according to Sastra, there is no way a person can know this, without one or the other. Try it out.

Tricky, people fool innocents all the time eh? It's up to us (on this forum here) to stop it. March ahead Audarya..

Conversation with a Guru; (cut down in bit size chunks). No.1 Your mentioned in Sastra? (yes) No.2 Which Sastra? (its revealed later!!!). No.3 So your Like Avatara of Vishnu? (yes) At this point, he will say either His Jiva or Vishnu, depending on the way you ask. Let's say he says his Vishnu avatara; No.4 Show me your form! Man (later!!!) No.5 Why later? (when the time is right) No.6 WHich Sastra mentions you? (later!!) Note that which Sastra question should come now. No.7. All Vishnu mentioned in Sastra already. (oh yes) No.8 Then where are you? (later will be revealed!). No.9 Okay, then why don't you show me? (later!!) No.9. Sastra? (later!!). So basically, in a nut-shell, he is avatara of Vishnu, and will revealed later (sasta and form to you). So basically his telling you that you don't need to goto any Sastra to find out. Or he will not reveal his form to you (meaning you). So his saying 'Forget Sastra, just accept on my WORD alone, I am God'.

How to be a Guru (Incarnation is Kali-yuga) You can present refutations thereof: No.1. Claim you know all Sastra, and it's Purports. Memorize 1000's of Verses, and repeat from memory. No.2. Gain popular recognition by mass amount of followers. Have them possibly (if it can be arranged) a title. Of Paramahasa, etc. No.3. (Most Important). Either claim you have no Guru, or say you are an incarnation of God. Nobody can say otherwise as it shall be revealed later in Sastra. (later so how can you deny it?). No.4. Get a TV Channel, for yourself. And say you're preaching about Radha-Krishna. (this should pull in the punters). No.5. Send of 'spiritual vibes' you know the ones right? Those orange 'Mayavadi vibes'? Those that enter your heart, make you feel like you have KRISHNA-BHAKTI. ? No.5 Sub. Tell some stories, make them up (it's not difficult). Spread and circulate. Make sure it's done in a nice way. This will bewilder people and make them think it's all true. No.6. This Guru is on TV, he must know about Krishna-Bhakti. Oh he speaks so nicly. Oh yes 'we heard this before'. We know this. Already. No.7. Get on Asasta TV. No.8. Read Books about Krishna-Bhakti (open a shop). No.9. Talk about it like you know it, all Sastra. No.10. Ask you Guru (who claims to be VISHNU HIMSELF) Avatara, to show you kindly His true form. If he say later, slap Him on the face. Then see what happens. If He shows then e-mail me. The Result? Congrats, you have a bona-fide Guru. Next stop.. Hell (according to Bhaktivinoda Thakura, it doesn't exsist. (read-between the lines). This text is available in Hindi and Urdu. Please e-mail on: Refutation: There is none. Your Guru is indeed God. (Vishnu). His comes here. He is actually God, .. All else fails. Shop around, for Guru. (have some faith in Krishna!?). idon'tbelieveitsnotmayavada@googlemail.com -Copyright, '0 Booktrust ' all Rights Reserved.

When I think I should sacrifice this life for Krishna (the years) I think okay. But it's the time. Too much Maya and too much time = Fall-down sooner or later. I have an ego also that I am Indian (that I belong to India). When I don't. I belong to Goloka. (that really hurt my ego,). Many things, that you think. Sometimes I think, (in a devious way). That I'll think it for a bit then later I won't. I think it takes time to get rid of the things inside. Misconception (so many). It's meant to be easy (probably is if you just follow properly). I don't think it's meant to be this difficult. Maybe we (?) make it like that.. I guess chanting is the only way. I also had a vision, that I had bandages over my eyes, (i was looking in a mirror at the time). And I could see my reflection (with bandages). Like it was a horror movie. I come here because of devotees, so anybody else reading may think I am crazy (devotees will know what I'm saying). Birds of the same flock together. Another realization was that in that in the past temporary religions were preached (past kali-yugas). With different languages. For different people. Maybe other planets. Which I found funny. If Krishna wants to trick you He can do it forever. Also I find the outside world a but vile. And that's getting to me as well. I never realized how much it influenced me. (i think i have lot of pride). I am conditioned a certain way (i know it). And everybody is to certain extent. Family etc, location, sometimes I see Maya peeking, (like you actually know what's coming next). And you think I knew that would happen. WHich makes me a bit impersonalistic. And without feelings. (not caring so much). But it says change should come from within. And that everybody is a hypocrite, we do things tell others. And do something totally the same etc. (i do it all the time, esp ). Being a devotee is the most difficult thing in the world. (i mean like proper). Maybe I am trying to hard, but I know I will die soon so I am desperate. (thats why I am going crazy). I think as it is, I would prefer live in woods (lol). And chant on my ownself. And when I got a bit clear come out. But I still like talking to devotees, anyway.