Pankaja_Dasa

lol no it was def, ego. I don't think i have any self-respect.

Hare Krishna, Do any devotees have the experience of their (lets call it so-called ego) hurt? I think i nearly went crazy before with mine. And here I was thinking it was small. ? It was (i think), trying to .. and I thought I am crazy (fair enough) Sorry but I cannot give all details on the forum. And I though fair enough (serving Krishna made me go crazy years ago). So 1 level up is fair enough. I thought okay Krishna if you want me to go crazy, in that moment I realized what a big fat ego I have (it was huge, HUGE). Like an impenetrable solid wall. Just scary as well. I thought this is impossible to get rid of.

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I don't know why people don't follow what Krishna says, in Bhagavad-gita (which Prabhupada GAVE). Tad vidhi etc. Approach Guru. We can intrepreate for our own selfish and egotistical desires all 'I' want. And not follow what Krishna says. It's been only 30 years, and people are adding and subtracting things. Imagine what it will be like in years to come! Listen to what Prabhupada says, ! Thats what i say. People that say you need to learn from SP Godbrothers, etc. Krishna says you need to learn from Guru, He didn't say learn from Godbrothers.

Namarcarya Srila Haridasa Thakura had a Muslim body. I was reading and Prabhupada never said anything about it (muslims etc) So I guess it's just ego. My Dear Godbrothers.

Lecture Delhi, December 13, 1971 Prabhupäda: Yes, immediately. It is just like it is said that you forward one step, when you see that the forward step is right place, then you take the other step. Like this. When you find this is solid, then you take it away, then you put again. It is like that. So at the time of death, as soon as it is settled up that this soul should migrate to such and such body, by superior. It is not in my hands. Daiva-netreëa. Daiva-netreëa means superior examination. That is called day of judgement in the Bible. Whether this soul is going to hell or heaven, that is the day of judgement. But they have insufficient knowledge, therefore they think that all the souls after death they lie down for perpetually. It is not that. Actually the judgement is there immediately and he gets another birth, either hell or heaven. Not that he has to wait for the day of judgement. Immediately the day of judgement is... It is does not linger, it is not ordinary court that you have to wait for your judgement for three years or... No, immediately. Immediately it is settled up and the soul is transferred to the father and the... That is material process, how the body will grow. That is also arranged by prakåti, by nature, under the direction of the Supreme. Just like if you have to paint something, then you have to secure different colors, different... Similarly, the particular type of body the soul will get, how it is to be manufactured, that is also by superior intelligence. The soul is put into the semina of a particular type of father and that quality of the semina mixes with the mother’s secretion, then that grows. This is the arrangement. Sväbhäviki bala-kriyä ca. Sväbhäviké. We have to think how this body will be manufactured, but Kåñëa is so intelligent, His potencies are so great that simply He shall do it—“This soul should get such and such body”—immediately it is manufactured and comes out. This is Kåñëa’s intelligence. Paräsya çaktir vividhaiva çrüyate. You cannot manufacture this. But under Kåñëa’s direction there are certain energies which can immediately manufacture. But the rascals say, “Automatically it is coming.” Not automatically. There is brain, there is energy, there is discretion, there is judgement. There is all these things. Then it will come out with another body. Not blindly. == I think because there is no re-incarnation in Islam and Christinaity, that's why its this.

hare krsna, i take back what i said. Krsna helps even muslims.

Sorry, I thought I put it here. I remember now I put it in a Pm. I shall tak a humble pie now. Puspam, Pastam, Pizzam..

http://www.audarya-fellowship.com/forums/recommended-websites/72228-new-discussions-board.html Here you go, really I don't have a clue why it was removed, because it's posted in the recommendation section. Bit unsual. Sectarianisim for Forums, who'd have thought it? hehe. Hare Krishna.. I'd like to see why the admin removed it. (and provide Sastric proofs thereof).

Good luck on the forum, haribol!

Jesus Christ says 'hate thou sin not the sinner'. The sin is mayavada.

He believes he is God. Anything else he says after that is total rubbish.

Sri Hanuman says that this is not purebhakti.

Theres no 'but' in Mayavada.

The person you posted this by also belongs to the Mayavada Sampradaya. I rarely read things by Mayavadis. They believe they are God, which sort of kills the fun out of being the servant of God.

Truth be know, if I wasn't religious. I never cared about them. If they were all dead. Would'nt really make a difference to my life. They have so much ahankara (false ego). You can see it a mile off. And they always wanting to get 'one over' on everybody else. Hard to like people like that. Well those Indian Bombing made me angry, I know they like 'oh that's so bad'. But really THEY LOVE IT. I try to be nice and maybe symapathice, but I think Maya-devi has a plan. And maybe it's taking place (happened in the past as well). I'd feel sorry for them. But sorry to say I'd be happy to see them go. If they want a green card, they can phone Krishna up.

When Guru claims to be God, (vishnu-tattva) it usually means his a mayavadi.

Nice orange font!. Very true. Shankracaharay says that. (Mayavada). That a Person (living entity) can become God (Vishnu-tattva) by Sadhana (practise).

The Variety of Food for Humans In China and Taiwan, people eat dogs, cats, snakes, snails, and other abominable animals. In France people eat frogs. In Arabia people eat cows and goats. In Australia, the aborigines eat lizards. In the Western countries people eat pigs, and lobsters. In Mexico people eat rats. There are so many other varieties of abominable animals that humans around the world eat. It’s due to ignorance that humans who are made of flesh and blood engage in eating the flesh and blood of other living beings. Vegetarian Food – The Higher Taste Those humans who have a higher consciousness will not engage in flesh eating. They will only eat food that is healthy, nutritious, and karma free: Grains, beans, fruits, vegetables, milk, and preparations made from milk. Only the beast will eat another beast. http://www.gitamrta.org/food.htm Meat = me eat. I want to ask what if your religious ? Will you have to suffer? Or will God forgive your sins? If your a Christian or Muslim, are you eat meat, do you suffer? It doesn't make sence how it can be sinful, yet at the same time not be sinful? I personally think they will suffer either by not attainting thier goal, or better possibly getting another chance. Because those animals are living enities (jivas'). Why would God become impartial?

Is that question directed at me?

When one talks about ' another 'devotee(s), because of his subtle ego he is actually critisizing that devotee. And the devotee will have to suffer the effect (either sense gratification, or even worse Mayavada).

I don't think you know what Vishnu-tattva means.

Like I said your Childish. Because look: Guru- (jiva-tattva) is servant of God, His taking you to Krishna. Right? Which makes Him (perfect representative of Krishna). If Guru was Vishnu-tattva (meaning the same as Krishna) Then His not a Guru, His God. Then basically this means, that's an Incarnation. Vishnu-incarnations are stated in the Sastra. They don't pop-up here everything. That's Mayavada. Anyway, good luck.

Originally Posted by Pankaja_Dasa Prabhupada said He was always the servant of His Gurudeva, Pretty childesh. Are you a Swami-Narayana? I hope we don't have to go around in circles. >> next stop on the chu chu train? No sastra vidhi, I luv to speculate. I luv to speculate, I luv to speculate, I luv to speculate. The only thing is, when somebody says something nice. DOH. I speculated again. How silly. >>>>>>>>>>Jnana=Speculations <<<<<<<<<<Bhakti=accepting What your doing is, trying to go the other way, thinking. Prabhupada is coming from same line as Chaitanya Mahaprabhu. (sorry about the above:smash: )

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