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How many forms of God ????

 

are you serious.

 

Yes as per you-Krishna,vishnu,shiva,durga,radha,

Now you dont know about the surya worshippers as ive read somewhere that surya is origin of everythin.

What the shaktas or Shaivas(most of them) say is not true now is it.

 

 

Then why are you saying that durga is equal to krishna?

Do you know the shakts are also divided on views.Tantrics consider lkali to be supreme and puranic consider devi lalita (i dont know name) to be supreme.Not even durga.I read this in devi bhagwat.Anyway why are you trying to establish durga is equal to krishna.Do you know how many forms of god will be there after you say that.

Durga is a created devi as per i know.The three devis created her to kill mahisasura as written in markandeya purana.Is there anything else written?

right now you said durga=krishna

Now you say radha is krishna

Questions have to end with question marks. Not sometimes, but everytime.

 

Yes, this is none of my business, but I highly recommend you pay attention to your writing skills. If your line of work requires you to write in english, then your time would be better spent in improving your punctuations and grammar, than here.

 

 

Good Luck

 

No cheers?

Anyway thanks for telling and your wishes

That so called incident is interpolated in Uttarakanda which is not a part of Valmiki ramayana.I already explained this.Please read before you respond.There are various ramayanas of unknown authors flouting around with crazy stories.

 

That sambuka was killed By Lord Rama for reading vedas is rubbish because Valmiki ,the author of ramayana was a sudra who wrote ramayana after reading vedas.

 

Its given in padm puraana.

Shri raam cut off his head because he was doing penance and shoodras were not allowed to do penance at that time.

Pls stay away from stories.Since you have mentioned it the story goes that jarasandha was destined to be killed by bhima so Krishna and balrama didnt want the mathura people to be exposed to war at that time.

 

No im talking about the part where he runs away from the yavana king and enters into the cave where muchukunda was sleeping.

So you have to stick to gita and vedas and be cautious on numerous un authentic puranas.In the thread of tenali, raghu patiently explained the damage to hinduism's image by the hindus posting random thoughts with little or no knowledge.read the thread where raghu counters the wrong accusations.

 

 

Do you not beleive in them?

jai rama,

Excellent ranjeetmore i thought Radha was the primordial shakti.

Remember You only said that the material potrncy mahamaya and internal potency yogmaya is different.

Durga is a demigoddess.

Brahma samhita mentions durga devi worshipped here and the spiritual one different.

Ok if durga is krishna is according to you the n even the 10 forms of durga is krishna.

Wait the ten tantric goddesses are also there.

Wait there lalita devi.

What about mahalaksmi.

Weve got 22 devis which are equal to krishna.

If prabhupada says demigoddes he meanss it.

The shakts Beleive in formless devi just like shaivs.

For them each devi is same.

But we are talking about Official position of christianity.

 

 

Official postion?What Is it?

That it is an interpolation by vested interests in uttarakanda(which was not accepted as authentic Valmiki ramayana) can be easily gauged by the fact that The Author of ramayana (Valmiki) is a sudra who read rigveda and wrote Ramayana.Got it?

raam did cut off shamabhook's head.Dont you know that.

Krishna running off?.

 

 

Krishna ran away from the battlefeild.One of his names is ranchod.Dont you remember.He ran away from the battle fiel.

The Gita doesn't talk about Caste oppression and neither the vedas.

 

Ofcourse the puraans do but.

You mean, Sant, that Ramakrishna is a combination of Rama and Krishna just like Sri Caitanya is a combination of Radha and Krishna?

 

.Basically an avtar.Not a combination but he tells vivekanda something like -'i am the one who was rama and krishna earlier'

n mahakali is extolled as the controlller of vishnu

Excellent the shakts at it again.

Dear Kishore please remember that Jesus taught his followers according to time and circumstance. So he told his followers "I am the only way". He told this to his followers specifically. He didn't come to India and tell the Gopis this... He didn't tell Narada Muni this..

Don't feel bad about it. It is just their ignorance that they can't understand why Jesus was saying that in the first place. It's not that other relgious processes may have been false, it is just where he was teaching a lot of people were so stupid they couldn't understand many things so Jesus had to treat his followers like children and make sure they strictly followed him. I am reminded of that verse where Jesus tells his followers that their ears are too full of wax to understand what he is teaching.

Think of this hypothetical example. God is an ocean and there are many rivers leading to the ocean. These rivers can be likened to the different processes or relgions one can take to reach God. So in this way God is unlimited and almighty. He is known in all universes not just in this earth planet. And so he is also has many names too. With that said it we can understand that there are different processes by which we can reach God. Unfortunately not everyone has intelligence to understand this point. So better you not try and argue with these people who are not so smart.

 

Thehat prabhu has put this beatutifully.

Just because the bible says that those who dont belevie in jesus will go to hell doesnt mean that those who dont beleive in krishna will not get liberated.

Even in our scriptures such things such as rama cutting of the head of a shudra,krishna running off the battle field were such that people like tenali ram who might not be hindus can question it.Remember his post.Does this make rama evil or krishna evil?

So do you have an answer to that.

In the bhagwat it is said that we shouldnt question or try to copy what great souls do.For example shiva drank the visha out of the ocean now if anyone else does it will it be right.still people Copy shambhu and have marijuana saying that he also has marijuana.HOw about fire ,it destroys everything but is it considered evil?

Do you know about the caste system in hindus.There are many places where a brahmans son becomes a brahman,shudras son becomes shudra.It says that one should not eat food by shudras,one should not touch them etc.Now isnt this to be considered evil?

Please stop acting like children and try to understand what the thehat prabhu has said.

but just laying out the theology

What theology.I dont understand.How have you taken all that is written.

What is your view.

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That is gospel of jesus.

 

It is correct that it is not cursing perse.

 

but unbelievers and idolaters are equated with

murderers, whoremongers,liars etc. and they will be burned in a lake of fire.(John 8:24)

 

Also the residents of places that refuse to receive gospel (of jesus) will suffer fire and brimstone as per bible..

 

Mark:10:15-16 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear you, when ye depart thence, shake off the dust under your feet for a testimony against them. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.

 

Reference for Sodom and Gomorrha is found in Old testament

Genesis :19:24 Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven;

 

 

Murderers etc. they are going to be punished. Is that same as cursing chandu ji.

Your book again shows what, i dont understand.You do as melvin says.

SHOW RESPECT TO SAINTLY PEOPLE.

For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son

John 5:22 (King James Version)

 

I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins:

for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

John 8:24 (King James Version)

 

He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers,

and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth

with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Revelation 21:7-8 (King James Version)

 

 

I see nothing smiley.

NOr i see the word jesus nor the word curse.

hat system did not happen until 500 years later. It was created to compute dates of Christian festivals.

So that doesnt prove anything but it is being used for more than 2 milleniums.

And it is used for many other datings other than christian festivals also kaiserose.Even in india people follow it.

Infact almost every date in history now is recorded by saying 500.b.c.,1000a.d you know it dont you.

Jesus's existence depends on the credbility attached to Bibilical stories. if they are sondiered credible, then he existed. If not, then he either did not exist or else not as protrayed in the Bible.

 

 

Here you accept that he existed.Ofcourse skeptics will not beleive that he came back to life, started teaching .........

Now you need more proofs to prove he didnt exist.

That is not true. Check your facts.

 

Unlike the Buddha, Jesus is not a historical character and no evidence is available to corroborate his story as found in the Bible. The Bible is the sole source for his existence and that is not history.

 

Cheers

 

 

What about A.D. AND B.C. whole history is based on it.

lORD buddha taught there no God at all.It is best not to read ramkrishna's teachings but it is imperative to respect him from afar,eventhough it is hard to respect some of his disciples.

So thats why i have told you hes a great saint,but there are things which are not to accepted very well.

Now youre comparing buddha to ramakrishna.So you beleive he is an avtara.

No if you actually read about ramarkishna just wikipedia him youll know some reasons why srila prabupada said it.Ramakrishna had again and again claimed to be rama and krishna.

His devotees of the ramakrishna mission were all propaganding such things.

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I have quoted from Shiva purana,From Shankaracharya and from the devi bhagavatam...

There's no harm in quoting ramakrishna.Agreed,many of his teachings are misleading...but then again so were Shankaracharya's...But this doesn't mean you insult him or dismiss his writings altogether.

 

Lord Shiva has maintained that whatever conforms with the Bhagavatam HAS TO BE ACCEPTED,EVEN IF A SHAIVITE IS SAYING IT

Yes ofcourse i was just asking.

Ramakrishna is a great saint.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ranjeetmore

Lets find out what an all knowing personality has to say-

Sri Ramakrishna : "Ah-the jnanis,they want to become sugar..but the bhaktas,they want to taste sugar-how sweet it is."

When did you started quoting ramakrishna dear sir ranjeetmore.

And that is all there is about Jesus - a STORY. Nothing else.

If you people want to believe in a story, fine.

 

 

Why do you beleive jesus was a story.Even historians beleved jesus lived and they have more proof that jesus live tahn ram or krishna.

Whole history is based on jesus 's birth and death datings.

Are you just saying it as a response to those who say indian history is mythology.

You dont have to be like them.You live in malaysia where hindu temples are destroyed but you dont know in india where muslims are discriminated against.

This is so hard to believe when people in the south are described (in Ramayan) as having features that resemble South Indians today. Plus, doesn't rg veda mention aryans and dravids?

 

even ravana and his brothers were not from lanka.Rakshas were not from lanka.It was actualy owned by kuber.ravan had just won it from him.

Ravan himself was born in india.