hindustani

You are on dot keep sharing your views with us.Thanks

tell me if my facts are inconsistent with anything you believe.

 

Raghu you look so much confused to me,this is 3rd similar thread which one has started or expecting answers from others.Better do a meditation and offer a real prayer to God whom you offer your prayers to his devine feet thus you will have an asnwer which you are so desparate to get.In my terms you are now remembering ShriShiva in a unique way so expect his mercy on you.

You still play stock market or left?

please any one advice me......my condition worsen day by day.

Chandu

Occupiers never win,wether they are british or...........someone from this forum who started such thread on God Shiva,hope you understands what I want to convey.

Why the heck the british needed to unite india?. They are occupiers; plain and simple.

 

Dear Kaisersoseji

You hijack these chaps who again and again riding on mary go round,rest will be done in due corse of time automatically:) .Spiritual forum should bring spiritual stuff and here all bogus sagas being repeated again and again.

Hindustani,

 

I have responses for all your points which btw, are vague and unfocused.

But I do not want to hijack this thread.

 

Cheers

And to add to my above post,once Sant Shri Tulsidas said more you read spiritual stuff,books etc you get confused,I agree on his views and devided sampradaya has something to do with this and that is why he wrote Ramcharit Manas in most simplified ways,but here if I give any exaple from this holy book someone will ask for pramana OR quote vedic lines below my quotes!!Current spritual books have been alterted and this we already discussed in past.

More you read,more you try to grasp ends in a confusion about what you are doing....yes its a fact and that is why people try to discuss demigods theory again and again.If our fingures are not alike,if our children are not alike,if our views are not neutral how the hell one should try to judge God and his maya?

1) Why do you think Indians are not united? Can you post your defiinition of unity and also show how other countries do not have this problem?

 

How many times members discussed some topics and fight started afterwards?Check any posts with more than 30 replies and you will have answer,we are devided in casts,should I need to tell more about our samaj rachna?I dont think so.

Why to see other countries for similar problem,my focus is on my country,period.

2) if they are not united, why do you believe diffferent religious beliefs is the reason?

Hindu religion devided in many parts and here I dont count jain,buddha,sikh,devided paths are now trying to prove their path is best,proof is this forum itself.

3) Before the British, there was no India & obviously there was no concept of a "united India". Indians did display unprecedented unity during the Sepoy Mutiny and later, once the concept of an India was set in place.

 

Check old map of India before 1947,it was as a whole and there were no boundries of independant states in it.In those days we had our own sanskars of hinduism and now?We devided as a whole India but we lost our sanskars long back.

4) Given our cultural diversity, whatever unity you see in India is by itself a great accomplishment. It does not have a parallel anywhere in the world.

 

What culture you are talking about in recent India?Do we have any real culture left now?Do you get up early in the morning and offer a prayer?Do you respect your parents?Do you have your guru?If you say yes in all 3 of above,very few people left today like you in India.

5) Keep Religion & socio-politics apart. Your complains about national unity, etc., are out of context in a spiritual forum.

Why?I am free to speak and what ever I am speaking is not foolish like others are doing here,mind your own business please!Spirituality rises from national unity,read Chanakya character and it will endorse my views.

Now I am sure the purpose of this forum is to insult united hindu religion,not once but many times different members came up and raised such issues.India suffered a lot due to their own people rather than from invaders(turks,muslims,mughals etc),if we cannot unite no one can save us and here you chaps are giving wrong signals to your own soul each time.Tell me one thing if Mine or your God whom we are worshiping is lovable and respectable to us what is the need to discuss anything related to a word from english called Godhead?What is the need to prove him superior each time?Just carry on what we are suppose to do isn't it but here case is different-this clearly tells that you are not satisfied by your worship or your God.Bitter truth this is.

I eat veggie food,few others eat non veg food but color of our blood is Red and not green for veggies or yellow for non veg food takers,I shall not take names here but what you are doing is not good for your own soul and that I underline.

Perhaps because of such mentality foreigners ruled India coz we are not united,open your eyes else no one can save you.

Thank you for the replies. However, let me again state that I am specifically interested in the Gaudiya Vaishnava conception of Shiva. I apologize that the title of the thread did not make that clear.

I was reading your posts in Shankara's work and your ideas there tells a different story.Just my observation.

Each time when this topic came in forum and each time when someone wrote Shiva as a demigod,he realised his mistake in super natural ways!!

There are proofs so carry on if you have guts.

And yes let me clarify that this punishment will be by your own God and not from God Shiva as he is a param parmatma.Never attempt to burn your karmas and this I shouted many times in this forum but ...... invain.I cannot stop destiny.

Go here and perhaps our friend Mr.Manmohan singh will find his answer.

Nice thread but one thing I would like to ask,are we suppose to share our divine experence with others?If my knowledge is right we are not,please confirm.

Although I agree with your lost theory my friend,it is indeed a divine experence.

Go with

OM HRAM HREEM HROUM SAH SURYAYA NAMAH

and above mantra will be more effective if you start wearing 12 mukhi Rudraksha.

Resp S.Yogiji

There is no vaishnava or Shivites when Bhakti comes coz Bhakta is tuned with the frequency of God!

For Sadhna Yes!

A major difference between the two.

Yes Chanduji and that is exactly my point,can't we have our own thoughts rather than pasting all ready made material each time ?

Copy pasting huge text is not a spiritual discussion.

Yes you are right,in that original thread there is no copy paste business,thanks for drawing my kind attention towards it B.janji.

hindustani, the other thread is not similar in content

Similar Thread is already here http://www.indiadivine.org/audarya/spiritual-discussions/444223-hellish-planets.html

what is the use of another thread?Better admin merge both thread.

and waise bhi , my god never asked me to not worship any other form of god

Matter is not worshiping whom,matter is to respect beliefs of yours.

Once you wrote that you have liabilities of your mother and sister and I presume right both of them advised what I wrote,sorry madam you are on the wrong path of life and unless you open your eyes get ready for more pains.I gave you some simpliest examples here but still your mind is not ready to belive hard reality.When we commit mistakes we feel of a black magic and .........blame others where the hard reality is we self is a culprit.

Good luck.

Correction

Above should be done only on Shivaraatri and this I underline.

Ok now can you able to share your inputs what made you to choose this path?This may be a critical question indeed as it may contain some of your personal inforamation hence let me post mine first.

I exactly do not know how and when I started to read and love spiritual stuff,last night I was thinking on this subject but it is pretty hard to get exact reply.

First If I am right I started to search on Rudraksha and one day decided to wear Rudraksha mala which I bought from one famous Jyotirlinga temple and from that day my life took a U turn.Belive me my friends there is always one seed in ourselves which needs to irrupt one day with the help of some catalyst,this catalyst can be either any social/personal thing and the day it finds a right enviornment it starts growing in to a small plant.Slowly It grows but that steady progress gives a lot of inner coolness which one cannot describe in words.One thing I have learnt is that to respect other people and their beliefs and this was not original "I"few months back.In short the new life has a sound of Shank,bells,a smell of Dhoop,a light of my lamp in pooja room and a masti which keeps you dancing towards a frequency which once tune with your soul its hard to say Goodbye to it.

First time I am expressing my personal views on internet and finally I perhaps found this forum when I was doing some research on Rudraksha.Needless to say I love this place so much inspite of different views by different people.May God bless you my friends.

Exactly and this happens to most of threads here (so pitty) though all inputs regarding main subject most welcome.

ranjeet , this is an honest request.....please dont change this nice thread into another gyana bhakti argument . if you know something about bhakti and want to share it with us say it without dragging in gyana or advaita......

Welcome Bija,we missed your presence here buddy.Keep in touch with your posts.

Most welcome Chanduji and as I said I am just trying to put my step on a right path,I may be wrong and thanks for correcting me brother.

Why I said Bhakti a masti coz we have seen many great characters totally disolved in Bhakti ras with a pure masti..Ex.Pujya Meeraji-- Mere to Giradhar Gopal Dusra na Koi.

Shri Hanumanji:-Opeing his chest and showing Shri Ram Parivar within.

Pujya Sudama:-Giving Tandul to Shri Krishna.

Bhakti ras is full of Masti in my humble opinion and that Nasha is of upmost class and values that has no barrier.

Difference btwn Bahkti and Sadhna is just like Shraddha and Vishwas.

If I try to sum up Bhakti and Sadhna in my way with very little knowledge I have(quite lesser than any of the members posted replies in this thread)...

Sadhna=Habit,attitude towards God to get his kripa.

Bhakti=Nasha or masti.

Aha!! Very nice line this is.

bhakti is the path and sadhana is the journey along that path .