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Hare Krishna Everyone, I wonder if there any references in a vedic literatures about varnas which are not or between 4 main asramas. I thought snataka is one of them (i could be mistaken). Everybody knows brahmacarya, grihastha, vanaprastha, sannyas.... Say brahmacari serves in house of guru and as SP says sometimes he remains in service of Guru whole life... then wait a minute... whole life? Say guru passes away, what happens to our brahmacari? Becomes a guru? or continues with his service, but there and how? There is not ISKCON temples in "ancient india" people (saints) live in forest... What happens with our brahmacari whose guru not present? Just wondering. So can i assume that there are classes of people who never marry and not live with a guru, ie single man (and some women, well women a different topic because in "old times" they were not able to move around so much...). It is not an assumption - this things happening anyway in now days. I just want to find some evidence to this "5th asrama". I would say divorce man/women can be part of it as well. Anyone has anything to add to this?

drowning man cannot help himself or anyone else from stopping drowning.... PS. it is not my opinion. PSS. if what you both saying was true - Krishna and all the acharya would preach this.

thank you unregistered impersonal for this quote... >>>>Shiva is not devotee of Vishnu, He Himself is part of Vishnu. Hari Hara betham or discrimination is the biggest papa people of Kali ... Jagadguru Sankaracharya inhis commentaries ..... >>>>> you are in a wrong forum dear mayavadi....

it is depending on one's indigestion and one make own's opinion about Krishna and Rama eating meat or having rasa dance. If you really like eating fish and you really want to be devotee of Rama (or pretend to be) you will find a guru (or writer) who translated ramayana and telling you Rama ate "ganga prasad" so can you..... Krishna had rasa dance - and we also have rasa dance.... it is a same side of the same coin. Garuda eating snakes, Garuda is Visnu carrier - does it mean Visnu sometimes have urgent need to eat some snakes too - then he flying on Garuda he may get hungry, garuda may feed him some "deep fried snake burger"??? all this discussion Rama ate meat, Rama ate Shurpanaka is all production of the mental factory. This is why we listen to the Acharya and "speak as I have spoken and do as I have done". Sorry for over-the-board logic examples....

PS. Actually solution is very simple i think - time to shave up (leave only small shikha) and be happy and it won;t scratch.

I belive every devotee has been asked this question in some shape or form - if they were preaching out there. If you analyze there are handful questions/challenges people have which can be answered/smashed/explained by expert preacher. I thought it is a good ground to lay down the frame work to answer this challenges in a simple way so common people can relate to.

hehe this shold be moved to jokes forum. is it a scientit who used to fast for political reasons? you can pull out BG and read about austerity in mode of rajo-guna.

Thank you Siva description of subconcous mind - from http://www.arches.uga.edu/~jhobson/scroll1.htm ".....And what will be accomplished with this habit? Herein lies the hidden secret of all man’s accomplishments. As I repeat the words daily they will soon become a part of my active mind, but more important, they will also seep into my other mind, that mysterious source which never sleeps, which creates my dreams, and often makes me act in ways I do not comprehend. As the words of these scrolls are consumed by my mysterious mind I will begin to awake, each morning, with a vitality I have never known before. My vigor will increase, my enthusiasm will rise, my desire to meet the world will overcome every fear I once knew at sunrise, and I will be happier than I ever believed it possible to be in this world of strife and sorrow. " I read/heard lots of descriptions of subconscous mind and not to bother you about it - I believe subconscous mind is Paramatma Himself. Wich guiding atma through its course of life. Anumanta and upadrista. Sanctioning and observing the deeds of atma. I still take it with a grain of salt for I still looking for direct reference... by the way BG 15.15 is closest I seen.

I tend to agree, is there reference of any kind on this thought? Even if this statemend will be proven valid (in future) it is invalid unless there is reference in satra..... If you come across it plz let me know...

I read about it in many different places (besides SP books) Can anyone help me to research this topic or provide references from SP books, your guru or vedas etc... Please back up your evidences, because there is so much on this topic was written/spoken. subconscious mind - is it paramatma or some other material element?

problem is scientists "thinks" how can you think? Did you see it in a dream? Actually if one scientist will say "I saw in a dream what universe is shaped like a ball", I will tend to believe it more than statements "scientists thinks". Vedic version is universe is an shape of an egg. Correct me if my memory not right, (reg. egg shape).

I thought it may be very interesting to share.... From - Daily thoughts, by Mukunda Goswami for his students.... >>>> Happiest Place in the World? Some of you will have seen Innertain.tv's "Happiest Place" item, and may have wondered where they got their information from. The following article from The Deccan Herald, a highly respected newspaper, was the source material. "London: Would you believe it, Bangladesh is the happiest nation in the world! The United States, on the other hand, is a sad story: it ranks only 46th in the World Happiness Survey. That's way behind India, the fifth happiest place in the world, and others including Ghana and Latvia, Croatia and Estonia. Research led by London School of Economics professors into the link between personal spending power and the perceived quality of life has conclusively proved that money can buy everything but happiness. The study revealed that people in Bangladesh, one of the poorest countries in the world, derive far more happiness from their small incomes than, for example, the British (32nd on the list) do from their relatively large bank balances. In fact, people in most rich countries including Austria, Netherlands, Switzerland, Canada, Japan and others are much unhappier than their poorer counterparts in countries like the Dominican Republic and Armenia. Most unfortunate, however, are Russians and people in some other parts of the former Soviet Union. They are neither rich nor happy, indicates the World Happiness Survey. Slovenia, Lithuania, Slovakia, Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, Bulgaria and Moldova follow the United States in the list to bring up the rear. The study shows that although the British have twice as much money to spend in real terms compared with 40 years ago, their perceived quality of life has not improved. Earlier surveys revealed that many Britons thought money could bring happiness. The new study shows that such a link still exists in poor countries because a small increase in income can mean large improvements in lifestyle. However, beyond a certain income-level that direct relationship breaks down. According to the research, happiness in rich countries now is far more dependent on close personal relationships, good health and job satisfaction. "People in Britain are generally less happy than they were ten years ago. Two-thirds would rather see the environment improved than have more economic growth and personal spending money", said Robert Worcester, visiting professor of government at the LSE and co-author of the study. The researchers have concluded that although Britons are rich compared with most other countries, many suffer from an emotional poverty caused by consumerism and the breakdown of family life. "We are being seduced by an economic juggernaut and our personal needs are not being met", said Nic Marks, a social sciences researcher at Surrey University who also worked on the report."

1. Purity of Ganges 2. Chastity of the gopies 3. About your mother 4. About your Guru ..list goes on. Just 4 from a top of my head - about this things any devotee should not argue if questioned by anyone. If one does argue about this topics he is insulting them. One's mother may brought one up from the prostitution profession but you never discuss it in public or discredit her. Same with a Guru. Even common riksa-valla will not discuss about his guru who tought him about pulling his 1st riksa. This is common sense.

/clap very nice post! I saved it and probably use it in future (like slip into the mail to the girl I may wish to marry so she can read it) /images/graemlins/smile.gif PS. But yes - it is very nice post. Man usually quote the part of women is created to serve the man... and forgeting what man is supposed to do.... like man without vision (goal in life) shall perish. There is much more but this post is really needs to be somewhere on matrimonial page somewhere....