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    Sevaka ji

     

    I will send you an e-mail soon about it.

     

    P D

     

    Originally posted by Sevaka:

    Premananda

    No it is not forbidden to have doubts, I'm sure all of us do at some point and for that much I'm with you, but after making a choice, as you have done, and although I may have my reasons as to dispute your choice I will not dispute the fact that you have made one.

    My query is that you are championing the cause of caran dasa babaji whom your guru no doubt rejects as his param guru does and along with all other Gaudiya groups, surely we are to respect the guru and take into account who he suggests we should take inspiration from and not leave it up to our imperfect minds?

    By the way could you infrom me about Gadadhara Prana's preaching that Gaura Nagara Bhava is the highest zenith of spirituality, I know that he has writen a book on the topic.

    sevaka

     

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    To call Sri Radharamancharan das Babaji a sahajiya is rather drastic. ACBSP´s critique of the Bhaja Nitai Gaur chant only shows that he and his guru didn´t understand its meaning.

     

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    Originally posted by Maitreya:

    In checking the few recorded statements Srila Prabhupada made on this I found his complaint against this mantra is that it doesn't include the full pancha-tattva.He also said it was manufactured with rasabhasa, but choose not to elaborate.He saw no need to but to follow what had been previously given.

     

    TRANSLATION CC ADI 8.22

     

    Whether he is offensive or inoffensive, anyone who even now chants sri-krsna-caitanya prabhu-nityänanda is immediately overwhelmed with ecstasy, and tears fill his eyes.

     

    PURPORT

     

    The präkrta-sahajiyäs who chant nitäi-gaura rädhe syäma have very little knowledge of the Bhägavata conclusion, and they hardly follow the Vaisñava rules and regulations, and yet because they chant bhaja nitäi-gaura, their chanting immediately evokes tears and other signs of ecstasy. Although they do not know the principles of Vaisñava philosophy and are not very much advanced in education, by these symptoms they attract many men to become their followers. Their ecstatic tears will of course help them in the long run, for as soon as they come in contact with a pure devotee their lives will become successful. Even in the beginning, however, because they are chanting the holy names of nitäi-gaura, their swift advancement on the path of love of Godhead is very prominently visible.

    Ädi 8.22

     

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    Originally posted by Audarya lila:

    Dear Premananda,

     

    I agree with you totally. Who you follow is your choice and is not pertinent to this discussion. I also agree that vaishnava saints are inspiring. May we all be blessed with honesty, integrity, humility and, above all, a serving attitude.

     

    Your servant,

    Audarya lila dasa

    Thanks for understanding, Audarya Lila dasa ji. The main thing to understand, as always, is that Sri Sri Radha-Krishna have always been in the centre. Every human being questions his choices sometimes. I have been very doubtful at times. But now I see things a lot clearer. It might have to do with age, that one realizes that time is short in this world and one´s direction in spiritual life has to be clear.

     

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    Sevaka,

     

    And of what benefit is that information for the readers, Sir?

     

    I admit that I have been very indecisive about which line I am going to follow. So what? That is nobody else´s problem.

     

    The only purpose of your posting is to make me look like an idiot, and I admit that I am.

    You should perhaps think about your own character. You who sit there and judge me and want to make me look like a fool. I feel sorry for you if it gives you any pleasure.

     

    By the way, who are you if I may ask? It is proper to present oneself at least when writing about something so personal.

     

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    Originally posted by Sevaka:

    Premananda. I want to ask you one thing.....

    What group do you claim affiliation to now?

    First you were initiated by Govinda Maharaj......then you rejected him and went to Gadadhara Prana........then you rejected him and went back to Govinda Maharaj........then you rejected him and went back to Gadadhara Prana........then.....well I dont know now but my point is that if you are with either of these groups which are both connected to Bhaktivinode Thakur, then you would reject this chanting as the Thakur did himself!

    So where are you now? or will anyone do as long as they are a Babaji?

    Thought I'd clarify things for the readers.

     

     

    [This message has been edited by premananda (edited 06-08-2001).]

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    Originally posted by Sevaka:

    P.S : Doesn't Gadadhara Prana chant the Maha Mantra in kirtan? It was my understanding that only Radharamanacharan dasa babaji's followers dont, and your webpage looks like you follow GP!

    Jai Radhe Shyam!

     

    Yes, but that doesn´t mean that I have to ignore or disrespect Sri Radharamancaran das Babaji and his followers. On the contrary I think it is very inspiring to read about Vaishnava saints. Don´t you?

     

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    Originally posted by animesh:

    See the beauty in nature.

    Rise early in the morning and see how beautiful the rising sun looks.

     

    Look towards west in the evening. See the beautiful colour of twilght.

     

    Watch the sky at night. See so many beautiful twinking stars. Watch moon playing as it hides behind a cloud and reappears.

     

    Go to some park and watch beautiful colourful butterflies drinking nectar from beautiful colourful flowers.

     

    I know that whatever I have written above has nothing to do with the topic but, at least, it will eat up jndas ji's server space. Posted Image

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    Originally posted by animesh:

    See the beauty in nature.

    Rise early in the morning and see how beautiful the rising sun looks.

     

    Look towards west in the evening. See the beautiful colour of twilght.

     

    Watch the sky at night. See so many beautiful twinking stars. Watch moon playing as it hides behind a cloud and reappears.

     

    Go to some park and watch beautiful colourful butterflies drinking nectar from beautiful colourful flowers.

     

    I know that whatever I have written above has nothing to do with the topic but, at least, it will eat up jndas ji's server space. Posted Image

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    I am trying green text on the blue marble background. It seems easier to read now than with the blue text.

    http://w1.408.telia.com/~u40803581/premabhakti.htm

    I added some quick links on and to each "subpage" on the site as well. Also, there is more of Sri Premabhakticandrika to read. About half of the text is ready, will put up the rest soon.

     

    P D

     

    [This message has been edited by premananda (edited 06-07-2001).]

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    My experience is that you are always called red monkey! I just tell them that they are black monkeys ;-)

    It doesn´t matter if you talk to the local girls or not. I don´t think it makes things worse, unless you´re wearing saffron brachmachari cloth that is...

     

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    Originally posted by dasanudas:

    No offence to your wife prabhu I'm sure she is a wonderful Vaisnavi and companion, as so many of the Bengali ladies are. My dandavat pranams to her and yourself.

    My affirmation of Atma devis advice comes from some experience in the company of the Bengali ladies who are very charming and sometimes so friendly that one feels a certain platonic chemistry develop due to us in the west freely mixing with the opposite sex it feels quite natural to mix it with the girls when they show interest to communicate, I've done this various times out of frienship but the next thing the environment are all calling you a red monkey so I was just considering these experiences when I heard this story.

    Gaura Hari bol

     

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    My experience is that you are always called red monkey! I just tell them that they are black monkeys ;-)

    It doesn´t matter if you talk to the local girls or not. I don´t think it makes things worse, unless you´re wearing saffron brachmachari cloth that is...

     

    P D

     

    Originally posted by dasanudas:

    No offence to your wife prabhu I'm sure she is a wonderful Vaisnavi and companion, as so many of the Bengali ladies are. My dandavat pranams to her and yourself.

    My affirmation of Atma devis advice comes from some experience in the company of the Bengali ladies who are very charming and sometimes so friendly that one feels a certain platonic chemistry develop due to us in the west freely mixing with the opposite sex it feels quite natural to mix it with the girls when they show interest to communicate, I've done this various times out of frienship but the next thing the environment are all calling you a red monkey so I was just considering these experiences when I heard this story.

    Gaura Hari bol

     

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    Originally posted by atma:

    Premananda prabhu: if I'm right, your Gurudeva lives in the shores of the Ganges in Mayapur, near Puri maharaja's temple. I know his family well and his girls when they were really little. His name was Pandu before he took shelter of Lalita Prasada. I'm talking about the same person?

    Bhavananda got lots of his paintings for the Guesthouse in Iskcon.

    Dear Atma

     

    My guru was given the name Pandu das by ACBSP, when he got Hari Nama mantra from him. After the disappearance of ACBSP, Pandu Prabhu met Sri Lalitaprasada Thakura, who gave him the name Sri Pranananda Das and mantra diksha. He also called him "Gadadhar-pran".

     

    y s

     

    P D

     

     

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    Originally posted by atma:

    Premananda prabhu: if I'm right, your Gurudeva lives in the shores of the Ganges in Mayapur, near Puri maharaja's temple. I know his family well and his girls when they were really little. His name was Pandu before he took shelter of Lalita Prasada. I'm talking about the same person?

    Bhavananda got lots of his paintings for the Guesthouse in Iskcon.

    Dear Atma

     

    My guru was given the name Pandu das by ACBSP, when he got Hari Nama mantra from him. After the disappearance of ACBSP, Pandu Prabhu met Sri Lalitaprasada Thakura, who gave him the name Sri Pranananda Das and mantra diksha. He also called him "Gadadhar-pran".

     

    y s

     

    P D

     

     

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