Guest guest Posted December 12, 2005 Report Posted December 12, 2005 The unknowns are > almost the whole of it. I do much better speaking to another in person. > > By the way, its great to meet you on line, even with its limitations. > > I'm unclear about your earlier note describing your truly heroic rise > out a dark corner of maya. What I do not understand is your reference > to the attempt to redeem others being a mistake, on the one hand, and > your sincerity, sensitivity, and obvious aptitude for doing just that > on the other. I would be grateful if you would unconfuse me on this > seeming contradiction. > > Sincerely, > > Tanmaya > > > > > > > > --- In , Bill Smith <biggerblat> wrote: > > > > I was referring to the understanding of the principles. > > > > ty_maa <ds.james@c...> wrote: > > Dear Bill, > > > > Its true that it can take a long time to understand the principles > > involved in unfamiliar metaphysical truths, but it can take little or > > no time to apply them and get an immediate result. It can take a > > while to understand how the molectular structure of a medicine impacts > > on the body to have the healing result it does, but very little to > > take the medicine and get the benefit. What it does take is faith, > > and the courage to experiment. > > > > The subject is larger than the immediate context. People have been > > reciting the litany of "it takes a long time" for a long time, and my > > observation has been that it is usually a euphemism for "yes, > but---". > > Saint Agustine used to pray as a young man in old Carthage, "Lord, > > give me celibacy---but not yet". > > > > Personally, I don't believe that we have a long time anymore. The > > world is on fire, and the fire is speading rapidly. Its the perfect > > time for us all to now apply what we have all known for a long time. > > > > I don't think that I would want it to be any other way; some people > > like to live on an earthquake fault because its very hard to go to > > sleep there. Its time for the spiritual heros to wake up show what can > > indeed be done when one has faith in one's heart and courage in ones > > acts. > > > > As Swami Vivekananda repeated so often, "Arise, awake, and stop not > > till the goal is reached". > > > > Yours in the Lord, > > > > Tanmaya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In , Bill Smith <biggerblat> > wrote: > > > > > > Yes. Put very simply, "If you want love, you have to give it away." > > This holds true of everything in life, but it takes a very long time > > to realize it. > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > ty_maa <ds.james@c...> wrote: > > > Dear Linda, > > > > > > This reply is to you, but I want to address it also to the > group at > > > large because I believe it contains something of general value > that > > > others may profit from as well. Your sorrows are real, and they > > > touched me deeply. And they reminded me of a great lession that I > > > learned from an old man whom I knew briefly, shortly before he > died. > > > > > > The gentleman I'm speaking of was born in New York, and while > he was > > > still in his teens he had a spontaneous spiritual awakening. The > > > Indian saint Paramahamsa Yogananda was working in the U.S. at that > > > time, and somehow the boy found his way to him. Yogananda > sent him to > > > the great South Indian jnani Ramama Maharshi. The Maharishi > told him > > > that he had had the highest possible spiritual realization and > that > > > there was nothing else he could teach him. The boy stayed at > > > Maharshi's ashram for a time, and then made his way back to > the U.S. > > > where he lived a very simple and unassuming life. > > > > > > Brahmajnanis are supposed to be unconcerned with the relative > world, > > > but I found this man to be profoundly compassionate. At that > time, I > > > was at the bottom of the economic ladder; I was living on food > stamps > > > to survive, and prospects were zero. One day the old man > said, "If > > > someone is in financial need, the most effective thing he can > do to > > > get out of it is to borrow some money from someone, and then > give it > > > all away to others who are in even greater need than himself". > > > Another thing he said was, "The real meaning of money is love; > money > > > is love." > > > > > > These were things I hadn't learned in school, so I had to > think about > > > them for a while. I am still thinking about them, even as > times have > > > become much better financially. > > > > > > I believe there is truth in these statements. I also believe that > > > they are needed now. The world is on fire. Millions and > millions of > > > people are living is the upmost material want. And at least > that many > > > are suffering from emotional poverty: lovelessness, > hopelessness and > > > despair. > > > > > > If I were bold enough to follow the advice of my friend the > old man, > > > and I felt a profound lack, either material of emotional, I > would take > > > what I had, or could borrow, and I would start giving it away to > > > others who had even less than I. > > > > > > The scriptures say that God dwells in our hearts, and that God is > > > Infinite, Unconditional Love. Many of us have tried all of > our lives > > > to get love--- through meditation, prayer, and worship. I > don't know > > > how many of us have tried to just give love, without even caring > > > whether it comes back to us or not. Maybe that is the secret; > maybe > > > that is what the world is waiting for. Maybe that would put > out the > > > fire. > > > > > > All we can do is to make the experiment. > > > > > > With deep affection, > > > > > > Tanmaya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > > To from this group, send an email to: > > > > > > > > > Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is no longer "morning in America", now it's "Twilight on the > > Potomac". > > > > > > > > > Find your next car at Canada Autos > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > To from this group, send an email to: > > > > > > Your use of is subject to the Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is no longer "morning in America", now it's "Twilight on the > Potomac". > > > > > > Find your next car at Canada Autos > > > > > > > > > > > > > ! 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