Guest guest Posted May 4, 2005 Report Posted May 4, 2005 Sweet sister, may there be many more occasions for us to dance together, thank you... with love, Henny , "muktimaa" <muktimaa@a...> wrote: > , "henny_v_i" <HvI@S...> wrote:\ > "Then it dawned on me that the guru IS truth. In > > that light all arguments become idle, all intellectual pride > > foolishness. > > I bow to the Divine Couple who gently lead the thirsty to the > fountain of living water." > > Beloved Hennyji! > i am weeping in such joy and bliss, because you have realized a very > very deep and important Truth today. That makes even my toes tingle > and dance with the shear joy of it! i bow to you, dear Hennyji! And i > bow to the source of this inspiration, who you have named so > beautifully--'The Divine Couple Who gently leads the thirsty to the > Fountain of Living Water' You know,dearest sister, i do believe that > is one of the best and most beautiful Names yet! :<D > Jai Chandi Shree Maa! Jai Shiva Swamiji! Jai Thakur Ramakrishna Deva! > Jai Guru! > muktimaa > > > > > > > > > > > > >\ Dear Steve, > > > > thank you for posting the verse. Your commentary really speaks to > me: > > > > > The persuasive power of the Guru is not mind alone, but heart, > > > discipline, example, knowledge, the ability to soar above ... many > > > things. We wouldn't make that mistake, that enlightenment and > > > realization are mental victories. > > > > I have spent a large part of the day arguing in my mind > about 'points > > of discussion' triggered by the Guru Gita, such as the 'what is > truth' > > question, and 'how can anyone know what truth is'. I guess I got > > caught in the 'argumentative' mode. So on and on I went, debating > the > > matter with a guru-figure in my head (who kind of looked like > Swamiji) > > trying to explain to him why I did not think he could know what > truth > > was either. I don't know what he said, because although we > Westerners > > may have learned how to be critical and defend our own position, we > > have not learned to listen very well (or is it just me?) > > Finally, having become very tired of all this, I got the definite > urge > > to go and watch the cd I ordered some time ago and had not seen > yet, > > showing Shree Maa and Swamiji doing sadhana at the Jyotirlingams. > > After the last image had come on the screen, I actually could not > > speak for half an hour. I never saw or heard something so beautiful > > and true in my life. Then it dawned on me that the guru IS truth. > In > > that light all arguments become idle, all intellectual pride > > foolishness. > > > > I bow to the Divine Couple who gently lead the thirsty to the > fountain > > of living water, > > > > Henny > > > > > > , "Steve Connor" <sconnor@a...> > > wrote: > > > The verse: "One who speaks to the Guru with egotism, to attain > > victory > > > in argument, may become a Brahmaraaksasah, a demon filled with the > > > pride of learning, in a forest or a place with no water." > > > > > > What this says to me is this: > > > > > > If we break away from the heart, and throw in our lot with the > mind, > > > we will come to a very dry place. > > > > > > Jai Maa. Keep feet in the Ganges. > > > > > > How does this pertain to us. We can argue until the sun goes > down. > > We > > > can slay all opponents. But we do not see, we are backing into a > > > corner, alone, defended. This is the nature of mind. > > > > > > The persuasive power of the Guru is not mind alone, but heart, > > > discipline, example, knowledge, the ability to soar above ... many > > > things. We wouldn't make that mistake, that enlightenment and > > > realization are mental victories. > > > > > > Jai Maa. The world of mind seems endless. But like so many broken > > toys > > > turning to dust. > > > > > > Jai Maa. We cannot win. There is no winning. The Game is not to > win. > > > Jai Maa, Jai Maa. > > > > > > The battle is not won with the mind, tha battle is against the > mind. > > > The two sided sword is discipline and love. > > > > > > Jai Maa. This hand, it hands over a small petal to the lingam. > Where > > > is that petal going? It is going beyond intellect. The petal, it > is > > > touching both your finger, and the divine. The finger, you feel > > > attached to that. You are going to the divine along with that > > flower. > > > You are being left on that lingam, in another dimension. > > > > > > Jai Maa. Give the freedom we desire. Jai Maa. Intellect is a tool > of > > > fear. We shed that fear like layers of dust in the water of > > devotional > > > practices. Quote
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