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You should know me by now - my middle name is Research. So I got on my folio disk and started searching around and found this verser.

 

Bhagavad Gita Chapter One

TEXT 8

 

bhavan bhismas ca karnas ca

kripas ca samitim-jayah

ashvatthama vikarnas ca

saumadattis tathaiva ca

 

 

TRANSLATION

 

There are personalities like you, Bhishma, Karna, Kripa, Asvatthama, Vikarna and the son of Somadatta called Bhurisrava, who are always victorious in battle.

 

PURPORT

 

Duryodhana mentions the exceptional heroes in the battle, all of whom are ever victorious. <font color="blue">Vikarna is the brother of Duryodhana,</font color> Asvatthama is the son of Dronacarya, and <font color="red">Saumadatti, or Bhurisrava,</font color> is the son of the King of the Bahlikas. <font color="green">Karna is the half brother of Arjuna,</font color> as he was born of Kunti before her marriage with King Pandu. Kripacarya’s twin sister married Dronacarya.

 

Govindaram - Kripa's twin sister married Drona. Dronacarya did not marry Kripacarya's twin sisters.

 

This is info directly from Srila Prabhupada.

 

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Hare Krishna

 

Me:

Yes, twin sisters did marry Dronacarya

 

LE:

Govindaram - Kripa's twin sister married Drona. Dronacarya did not marry Kripacarya's twin sisters.

 

Talk about typing before thinking! /images/graemlins/blush.gif

 

Thanks LE for pointing that out to me, I never thought of what I had just wrote /images/graemlins/frown.gif

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Hare Krishna

 

If God is all-powerful, is He responsible for allowing bad things to happen?

 

It depends on what kind of day/week/year you are having /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

 

My Mind:

Good days, yep good karma is mine,

Bad day..oh Krishna why all this mess..

Intelligent day, its all my fault /images/graemlins/frown.gif

 

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Here is the answer given for the question:

If God is all-powerful, is He responsible for allowing bad things to

happen?

Text 9 of Chapter 9 specifically answers: "udasina-vad asinam" - God is the

neutral dispenser of the results of our own actions.

 

Krishna makes the world, and enforces with total impartiality (udasina vat)

the rules by which the world operates. Although God makes and enforces the

rules, it is up to us how we play the game. The players of a game, not the

inventor are responsible for who wins or loses.

 

Though all powerful, God is not directly responsible for the good and bad in

the world because he grants the living entities a measure of independence

from His direct control, to "play the game of life" as we choose. Sometimes

we play in ways that bring harsh results. Sometimes in ways that bring good

results. The blame or merit is ours.

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Mahatmas are souls free from delusion, under the protection of Krishna's divine nature, and fully engaged in devotional service because they know Krishna as the Supreme Personality of Godhead.

 

mahatmanas tu mam partha

daivim prakrtim asritah

bhajanty ananya-manaso

jnatva bhutadim avyayam

 

O son of Prtha, those who are not deluded, the great souls, are under the protection of the divine nature. They are fully engaged in devotional service because they know Me as the Supreme Personality of Godhead, original and inexhaustible.

Bg 9.13

 

 

 

 

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How does Krishna define "mahatma"?

In contrast to text 9.11-12's definition of a duratma as one who cannot

accept the Supreme Absolute Truth as a person, text 9.13-14 defines a

mahatma as one who does accept personality as the fullest expression of

Absolute Truth. The mahatma therefore relates to the Supreme in a personal

manner, finding refuge in the divine nature of the Supreme (daivim prakritim

ashrita) by engaging in loving worship (bhajanty ananya manasa) through

constant glorification (satatam kirtan).

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Hare Krishna

 

a) Why didn't Arjun want to fight?

b) How does Krishna respond to each of Arjun's arguments?

 

a) He was compassiate upon his kinsman, due to his soft-heartedness being a great devotee of Lord Sri Krishna, not realising the temp nature of the body, eternal relationship with Lord Krishna is more important, you'd have to read the entire Gita to get the answer to that question!

 

b) Very well /images/graemlins/grin.gif, He responds just as a Spiritual Master(original) would to a sincere disciple, disiplic succession ki jai!

 

 

 

 

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By the mercy of the Spiritual Master one receives the benediction of Krsna,

without the grace of the Spiritual Master one cannot make any advancement at all.

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Did not want to fight because of a selfish reason. He did not feel compassion over the idiot lives of Duryodhan and his brothers.

 

He felt great love for the people like Bhisma (great devotee of krishna, Dharmic person and his Grandfather) , Dron-acharya ( His beloved teacher)... etc.

 

He felt love for them and he thought losing them would be a great dishonor and great sin. He also says that it is better to beg these people for their blessings than fighting them.

 

Krishna just makes him realize that the people who he thinks is fighting are worth fighting with, because they are siding evil and evil should be fought and defeated in any instance, it will be defeated in every instance at the end of that period.

 

 

But the true battle is fought by krishna... who is also defeating the bad Living Entities and placing them under this world of Maya and taking good living entities to higher planets.

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I_L_K

 

He did not feel compassion over the idiot lives of Duryodhan and his brothers.

 

I think you should stick with the word ignorant, and not idiot, just my opinion /images/graemlins/smile.gif theres a thread somewhere on this forum, which explains the relationship between Lord Sri Krsna and Duryodhan, although Duryodhan is considered a non-devotee(??), even Lord Balaram had a soft spot for him. But I maybe wrong.

 

 

 

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Answer from transcript...

 

a) Why didn't Arjun want to fight?

Arjun had four arguments against fighting:

1. Compassion/grief - Arjun did not wish not to cause death and it's grief

2. Happiness - he felt the war would bring no happiness

3. Sin - killing his Grandfather and guru would be a sin

4. Social destruction - he would kill those who were responsible for setting

proper examples in society, and thus ruin the social order.

 

b) How does Krishna respond to each of Arjun's arguments?

Compassion - Arjun was concerned about the grief associated with death,

Krishna therefore explains in 2.10-30 that death should not be a cause of

grief (11). The soul does not die, and the body must die (12 and others in

the section). Thus death is not truly an end, but only a change (13). Though

the change from one life to the next does bring unavoidable grief to those

left behind, one must go on with his responsibilities and duties, even in

the face of such grief (14-15).

 

Happiness - By arguing that the war would bring no happiness, Arjun

indirectly argued that his duty (which in this case was to fight) would

bring no happiness. Krishna therefore reminds Arjun that adherence to duty

is the real means to acquire karmic merit and lasting happiness. (2.31-38)

 

Sin - Krishna replied to Arjun's opinion that to kill his elders would be

sin in two ways.

* Krishna pointed out that his elders had become aggressors (1.36) and were

therefore no longer venerable. Thus to kill them would not bring sinful

reaction.

* The war had become, after many years of searching for an alternative, an

unavoidable necessity of Arjun's duty. Killing on the order of duty would

not bring him sinful reaction, but to abandon his duty would. (2.33) When

duty is done in true selflessness, it brings no reaction. Thus Krishna

explains at length that action done without selfish motive never causes any

reaction. (2.39-53)

 

Destruction of Society - Arjun argued that killing elders would leave no one

to set a right example for society. Krishna counters this by pointing out

that if Arjun does not kill them, he is abandoning his responsibility as a

kshatriya and thus, by not fighting, setting an example that would erode the

morals of society. (3.21-24)

 

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a) 10.8

sambandha-jnana: Realizing that God is the origin and sustenance of

everything, one develops an appreciation for the Supreme that leads

eventually to a loving relationship.

 

b) 10.9

abhideya-jnana: Once a loving relationship is established, one begins to

worship the Supreme with great love, with all his heart and aspiration. One

thus discusses among others the Lord with great pleasure.

 

c) 10.10-11

prayojana-jnana: How does Krishna reciprocate with the love expressed to Him

by His devotee? By taking him or her beyond all ignorance and into His

direct personal association.

 

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Purusha = Man.

Prakriti= Nature.

 

Purusha enjoys Prakriti.

The only Purusha in this creation/ other creations is krishna.

The rest of things which are apart from supreme personality of the Godhead are prakriti. In other words, everything that we see around us including our deepest selves.

 

Thus krishna plays with his creation just like a child plays with his toys.

 

may be I should read bhagavath gita more often...

I_love_krishna

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everyone should read Bhagavad Gita each and every day. I personally love these tests that I got. Some of the questions may appear quite simple but I go to the Bhagavad Gita even with the simple questions to read the verses and see what Krsna says and also read Prabhupada's purports. I don't rely on my faulty senses and puny little brain! /images/graemlins/smile.gif

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