Indianism = Hinduism

[Guest guest]

Read this e-mail carefully. I need you to read and think about it, the reason being, indians, especially the hindus are considered as extrimists and racists [which is absolutely wrong]. I hope this e-mail will be an eye-opener for all those who think like that.

 

Recently, I read in a french magazine, a phrase where they had depicted hindus as the extremists, as the majority of india, which is totally incorrect. It is the exact inverse, hindus being in majority are treated as minority.

 

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If you are an indian and much more an hindu........you need to read this.... and answer it to your self.

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Are you a Secularist? Then please answer these questions, before you Vote.

1. There are nearly 52 Muslim countries. Show one Muslim country, which provides Haj subsidy.

2. Show one Muslim country where Hindus are extended the special rights that Muslims are accorded in India?

3. Show one Muslim country that has a Non-Muslim as its President or Prime Minister.

4. Show one country where the 85% majority craves for the indulgence of the 15% minority.

5. Show one Mullah or Maulvi who has declared a 'fatwa' against terrorists.

6. Hindu-majority states Maharashtra, Bihar, Kerala,Pondicherry, etc.have in the past elected Muslims as CMs; Can you ever imagine a Hindu becoming the CM of Muslim - majority J&K?

7. Today Hindus are 85%. If Hindus are intolerant, how come Masjids and Madrassas are thriving? How come Muslims are offering Namaz on the road? How come Muslims are proclaiming namaz 5 times a day on loudspeakers that there is no God except Allah?

8. When Hindus gave to Muslims 30% of Bharat for a song, why should Hindus now beg for their sacred places at Ayodhya, Mathura and Kashi?

9. Why temple funds are spent for the welfare of Muslims and Christians, when they are free to spend their money in any way they like?

10. When uniform is made compulsory for school children, why there is no Uniform Civil Code for citizens?

11. In what way, J&K is different from Maharashtra, Tamil Nadu or Uttar Pradesh, to have article 370?

12. Why Gandhiji supported Khilafat Movement (nothing to do with our freedom movement) and what did he get in turn ?

13. Why did Gandhiji object to the decision of the cabinet and insisted that Somnath Temple should be reconstructed out of private fund, not Government funds. When in January 1948 he pressurized Nehru and Patel to carry on renovation of the mosques of Delhi at government expenses?

14. If Muslims & Christians are minorities in Maharashtra, UP, Bihar etc. are Hindus not minorities in J&K, Mizoram, Nagaland, Arunachal Pradesh, Meghalaya etc? Why are Hindus denied minority rights in these states?

15. Do you admit that Hindus do have problems that need to be recognized? Or do you think that those who call themselves Hindus are themselves the problem?

16. Why post-Godhra is blown out of proportion, when no-one talks of the Ethnic cleansing of 4 lakh Hindus from Kashmir? Why is the reason of the post Godhra situation not spoken about namely burning ALIVE of passengers of 2 whole railway carriages?

17. In 1947, when India was partitioned, the Hindu population in Pakistan was about 24%. Today it is not even 1%. In 1947, the Hindu population in East Pakistan (now Bangladesh) was 30%. oday it is about 7%. What happened to the missing Hindus? Do Hindus have human rights?

18. In contrast, in India, Muslim population has gone up from 10.4% in 1951 to about 14% today; whereas Hindu population has come down from 87.2% in 1951 to 85% in 1991. Do you still think that Hindus are fundamentalists?

19. Do you consider that - Sanskrit is communal and Urdu is secular, Mandir is Communal and Masjid is Secular, Sadhu is Communal and Imam is Secular, BJP is communal and Muslim league is Secular, Dr. Praveen Togadia is ANTI-NATIONAL and Bhukari is Secular, Vande Mataram is communal and Allah-O-Akbar is secular, Shriman is communal and Mian is secular, Hinduism is Communal and Islam is Secular, Hindutva is communal and Jihadism is secular, and lastly, Bharat is communal and Italy is Secular?

20. When Christian and Muslim schools can teach Bible and Quran, Why Hindus cannot teach Gita or Ramayan?

21. Abdul Rehman Antuley was made a trustee of the famous Siddhi Vinayak Temple in Prabhadevi, Mumbai Can a Hindu - say Mulayam or Laloo - ever become a trustee of a Masjid or Madrassa?

22. Dr. Praveen Togadia has been arrested many times on flimsy grounds. Has the Shahi Imam of Jama Masjid, Delhi, Ahmed Bhukari been arrested For claiming to be an ISI agent and advocating partition of Bharat?

23. When Haj pilgrims are given subsidy, why are Hindu pilgrims to Amarnath, Sabarimalai & Kailash Mansarovar taxed?

A Muslim President, A Hindu Prime Minister and a Christian Defense Minister running the affairs of the nation with a unity of purpose. Can this happen anywhere, except in a HINDU NATION - BHARAT? Later on please circulate this to as many Indians as possible.

 

 

[maadhav]

I think we hindus would do god if we do not make up a word "Indianism". If americanism is what is in teh Us constitution and other things, then indianism is not somethign we want because our constitution is not perfect for our vedic land and the vedic people.

 

 

<< If you are an indian and much more an hindu........you need to read this.... and answer it to your self. >>

 

the non hindus need to read it.

 

<< Are you a Secularist? >>

 

hinduism is inherently secular,

but hinduism does not tolerate adharma and adhari ideologies. we hindus have malpracticed dharma and we need to stop and need to remove the invaded ideologies out of bharat.

 

we are labled by the non hindus as fundamentalists

just because we now we are not willing to tolerate adharma of the invaded ideology followers on our own vedic land bharat. what they are saying us hindus is this, "You hindus have acted as cowards for 1000 years against islam and .. so, now you have no right to fight adharma by them in your home country. just remain cowards for ever." they are wrong and we will not remain cowards any more. we ar almost 1B in number and even if 2030 % of us unite for teh purpose, we can accomplish what we want to. this is very scary for the anti hindus. but we ned to unite.

 

it does not matter how the world lables us.

what matters is:

 

- we do understand that bhart is the land of the vedic culture and the vedic people (hindus).

 

- we know that islam has invaded there and has slaughtered millions of hindus and destroyed thousdands of temples.

 

- koran and gita have oppsite messages.

gita is most tolerant and koran is least tolerant.

therefore it was our mistake (gandhi's mistake) to allow muslims to live in bhart even afte 1947 partition.

 

- bcause hinduism and islam are not compatible, hindus and muslims must not live together.

 

- the musmils of india must give up islam because

1) their ancestors once were hindus who were forcibly converted to islam. so, they do not need to hold islam.

2) bharat is the vedic land, not a islam land, and islam has invaded there. no invader has any right to continue live in invaded land. so islam must go out of bharat.

if they cannot give up isam, theymust them go out of bharat.

that is teh only solution for peace in bharat.

3) bharat has democracy and democracy is illegal in islam.

so, they better get out of it.

 

- becaue islam is the only one religions allowed in most muslim countries as legal, we hin bharat need to declare only islam as illegal. change the constitution in favor of the Hindus and not favoring the invaded ideology followers.

 

- we hindus have paid special tax to the muslim rulers just because we were not muslims. even after indeendence we pay them to go to haj. what a stupidity. we in bharat need to tax them for being a muslim and for producing children.

becaue, they multiply fast like pigs and impose islam on their children. that is very dangerous in a democracy.

 

never worry what the world says what we are.

just accomplish our vedic dhyeya.

 

no need to prove to the world 'we are not fundamentalists.'

 

just prove that we are not cowards any more.

and bharat is not a no man's land

where any one can invade and kick around hindus.

 

[barney]

Hindus need not answer these questions as we all know the real truth. The Muslims who are against Hindus should amswer them. I do not know much about Hindus in India except what I read in the news media and websites. But what I know is they have tolerated the Muslims for centuries and yet Muslims are ungreatful for the kindness shown by the Hindus. The Hindus have every right to lash back at the Muslims because India was invaded by barbaric Mogul ruler who had forced the ancestors of the present Mulsims to convert. But after their fall these Muslims who are the descendants of the converts should have reconvert themsleves to Hinduism but they failed to do so and are against Hindus now. Abdul Kalam is exceptional as he understands the problem and is afraid of the Mullas and the Islamic fatwas. I know there are Muslims who understand what the Hindus feel but are helpless. But I am ashame of some Hindus who have gone to Islamic countries like Saudi Arabia to work for the Muslims as slaves. These Hindus ought to be banned from returning back to India. A true Hindu would not become a slave of the barbaric race and the British colonizer who were once barbarians too. Have they forgotten the massacre at Amrista? What compensation did they give to the desendants of the deceased? Why are the Hindus so stupid to slave again for these two barbarians who destroyed India?

[Guest guest]

all that's ancient history. There is no need to live in the past. In the past, most cultures were barbaric, so muslims or Brits were not an exception. Incidentally, hindus had to suffer, but then again, there were/are too many traitors in the hindu community, and thats why god is punishing them. it is as simple as that. Stop complaining, stop living in the past, and focus on the future.

[maadhav]

<< There is no need to live in the past. >>

 

barney or i are not telling to live in the past,

but we would like all the hindus know the past,

so that right actions could be taken now

to solve the current and future problem of islam in bharat.

 

 

[Guest guest]

You speak as if Islam is the only problem in India. What of the gutless hindu politicians who can't even protect the jawans and their families? What about corruption at all levels? There are lots of corrupt, evil people in the hindu community also, Islam doesn't have a monopoly over evil. So what is your suggestion? Are you saying you should forget about all that and only punish muslims? I believe that evil, whether American or islamic or Indian evil, should be eliminated at all costs. But to focus on JUST one evil such as Islam, is side-stepping the more serious issues.

[barney]

Being too soft with the enemies of Hinduism. Yes, that is why God is punishing the Hindus. The Muslims should be charged zimmis as what the Muslims in Islamic state are doing. This what the Islamic countries pratice:

 

"Islamic Law and Zimmis Muslim Muftis (legal authorities) agree that the contract of the Zimmis should be offered primarily to the People of the Book, that is, Christians and Jews, then to the Magis or Zoroastrians. However, they disagree on whether any contract should be signed with other groups such as communists or atheists. The Hanbalites and the Shafi`ites believe that no contract should be made with the ungodly or those who do not believe in the supreme God. Hanifites and Malikites affirm that the Jizya may be accepted from all infidels regardless of their beliefs and faith in God. Abu Hanifa, however, did not want pagan Arabs to have this option because they are the people of the Prophet. They. must be given only two options: accept Islam or be killed".

 

The Jizya (tribute)

Jizya literally means penalty. It is a protection tax levied on non-Muslims living under Islamic regimes, confirming their legal status. Mawdudi states that "the acceptance of the Jizya establishes the sanctity of their lives and property, and thereafter neither the Islamic state, nor the Muslim public have any right to violate their property, honor or liberty." Paying the Jizya is a symbol of humiliation and submission because Zimmis are not regarded as citizens of the Islamic state although they are, in most cases, natives to the country.

 

Zimmis and Religious Practices

Muslims believe that the Zimmis are Mushrikun (polytheists) for they see the belief in the Trinity as belief in three gods. Islam is the only true religion, they claim. Therefore, to protect Muslims from corruption, especially against the unforgivable sin of shirk (polytheism), its practice is forbidden among Muslims, because it is considered the greatest abomination. When Christians practice it publicly, it becomes an enticement and exhortation to apostasy. It is significant here to notice that according to Muraghi, Zimmis and infidels are polytheists and therefore, must have the same treatment.

 

According to Muslim jurists, the following legal ordinances must be enforced on Zimmis (Christians and Jews alike) who reside among Muslims:

 

1) Zimmis are not allowed to build new churches, temples, or synagogues. They are allowed to renovate old churches or houses of worship provided they do not allow to add any new construction. "Old churches" are those which existed prior to Islamic conquests and are included in a peace accord by Muslims. Construction of any church, temple, or synagogue in the Arab Peninsula (Saudi Arabia) is prohibited. It is the land of the Prophet and only Islam should prevail there. Yet, Muslims, if they wish, are permitted to demolish all non-Muslim houses of worship in any land they conquer.

 

2) Zimmis are not allowed to pray or read their sacred books out loud at home or in churches, lest Muslims hear their prayers.

3) Zimmis are not allowed to print their religious books or sell them in public places and markets. They are allowed to publish and sell them among their own people, in their churches and temples.

4) Zimmis are not allowed to install the cross on their houses or churches since it is a symbol of infidelity.

5) Zimmis are not permitted to broadcast or display their ceremonial religious rituals on radio or television or to use the media or to publish any picture of their religious ceremonies in newspaper and magazines.

6) Zimmis are not allowed to congregate in the streets during their religious festivals; rather, each must quietly make his way to his church or temple.

7) Zimmis are not allowed to join the army unless there is indispensable need for them in which case they are not allowed to assume leadership positions but are considered mercenaries.

Mawdudi, who is a Hanifite, expresses a more generous opinion toward Christians. He said:

 

"In their own towns and cities they are allowed to do so (practice their religion) with the fullest freedom. In purely Muslim areas, however, an Islamic government has full discretion to put such restrictions on their practices as it deems necessary."

 

Verses from the Quran:

 

[al-Anfal 8:12]

When your Lord revealed to the angels: I am with you,

therefore make firm those who believe. I will cast

terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve.

Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every

fingertip of them.

 

Here one can clearly see that the Quran is openly saying to the muslims to give a torturous death to those who are non-believers of the Islamic faith.

 

[al-Bayyinah 98:6]

Lo! those who disbelieve, among the people of the

Scripture and idolaters, will abide in fire of hell.

They are the worst of created beings.

 

 

From the above passage you can clearly see that according to Mohammad, Allah has reserved a special place for non-mulsims--HELL!

 

[at-Taubah 9:5]

Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the

idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them

(captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them

each ambush. But if they repent and establish

worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their

way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

 

This verse tells us that muslims are free to convert non-muslims by force and brutality. If unsuccessful in doing so, they are free to kill.

 

[at-Taubah 9:73]

Oh Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the

hypocrites! Be harsh with them. Their ultimate abode

is hell, a hapless journey's end.

 

[al-Haqqah 69:30-37]

(It will be said)Take him and fetter him and expose

him to hell fire. And then insert him in a chain

whereof the length is seventy cubits. Lo! he used

not to believe in Allah the tremendous, and urged

not on the feeding of the wretched. Therefore hath

he no lover hear this day nor any food save filth

which none but sinners eat.

 

Here we get a description of how to punish Non Muslims. This is in practice even today in Islamic countries.

 

[ad-Dukhan 44:43-50]

LO! the tree of Zaqqum (The tree that grows in the

heart of hell bearing fruits like devil's heads) -

the food of the sinner. Like molten brass, it

seetheth in their bellies as the seething of boiling

water. (And it will be said): Take him and drag him

to the midst of hell, then pour upon his head the

torment of boiling water. Saying:

TASTE! LO! thou wast forsooth the mighty, the noble!

Lo! this is that whereof ye used to doubt.

 

[al-Baqarah 2:191]

And kill them wherever you find them...

 

 

[at-Taubah 9:123]

O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who

are near to you and let them find harshness in you

and know that Allah is with those who keep their

duty (unto Him).

 

[an-Nisa' 4:144]

O Ye who believe! choose not disbelievers for your

friends in place of believers. Would you give Allah

a clear warrant against you ?

 

This verse clarifies the fact that a true Muslim can never be a friend of a person of another faith. People who believe otherwise are under delusion.

 

[at-Taubah 9:29]

Fight those who do not profess the true faith (Islam)

till they pay the jiziya (poll tax) with the

hand of humility.

 

This verse in Quran gave birth to the law that all non muslims living in an Islamic state have to pay the jiziya or poll tax for the privilege of being there. These people are called zimmis and are allowed to live and work in the Islamic lands under the following 20 disabilities: (one has to wonder if apartheid was derived from this) 1. They are not to build any new places of worship.

2. They are not to repair any old places of worship which have been destroyed by the muslims.

3. They are not to prevent muslim travellers from staying in their places of worship.

4. They are to entertain for 3 days any Muslim who wants to stay in their homes and for a longer period if the muslim falls ill.

5. They are not to harbor any hostility or give aid and comfort to hostile elements.

6. They are not to prevent any one of them from getting converted to Islam.

7. They have to show respect to every Muslim.

8. They have to allow Muslims to participate in their private meetings.

9. They are not to dress like muslims.

10. They are not to name themselves with Muslim names.

11. They are not to ride on horses with saddle and bridle.

12. They are not to possess arms.

13. They are not to wear signet or seals on their fingers.

14. They are not to sell or drink liquor openly.

15. They are to wear a distinctive dress which shows their inferior status and separates them from Muslims.

16. They are not to propagate their custom and usages among the muslims.

17. They are not to build their houses in the neighbourhood of muslims.

18. They are not to bring their dead near the graveyards of the muslims.

19. They are not to observe their religious practices publicly or mourn their dead loudly.

20. They are not to buy muslim slaves.

 

 

Here again I have stated another handful of facts which expose the true nature of Islam. Any logical person by now should have realized that Islam is meant for the lowest of the low. The followers of Islam are mindless tyrannical demons who know nothing better than killing and torturing people in the name of Allah. And they do this because a man named Mohammad, among other things, promised his followers 72 Houris (Beautiful Virgin Women) and virility of 100 men in 'Jannat' (Heaven). This is very puzzling--why virility of 100 men and only 72 houris? Why not 100 houris? The answer is very simple--the prophet Mohammad promises these "pious" muslims that they will also be given 28 young boys in addition to the 72 houris for their sexual pleasure.

 

Now, tell me from the above which religion creates terror in the hearts of the people? Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism or Zorastraism. Athese four religions are at peace with each other in India but no Islam. Why is it so? That is because the hadith teaches each and every Muslim to go aginst non Muslims even if it is not an Islamic country. Fanatism is being thought from cradle. So, if India wishes to have peace and stability it must legistlate new laws to ristrict Muslims from having any say in the countries politics and there should be no prayers[ajan] in loud speakers and if any Muslim causes any trouble the whole community must be answerable. Only than India would be free from thses barbaric religion.

[Guest guest]

You still haven't answered my questions. Are you trying to say that Hindus are sooo pure that they can pass judgment on others? There is corruption, poverty, superstition and plenty of social evils in the hindu community, so what moral right do you have to speak of others? It makes no sense.

[maadhav]

<< You speak as if Islam is the only problem in India. >>

It is more serious than other problems.

 

<< What of the gutless hindu politicians who can't even protect the jawans and their families? What about corruption at all levels? >>

 

These need to be solved by following hindusm correctly.

 

<< There are lots of corrupt, evil people in the hindu community also, Islam doesn't have a monopoly over evil. >>

 

vice and virtue is no one's monopoly,

but islam is barbaric per koran and hadith.

hinduism, per gita is not.

 

when one gives up islam, he/ she has better chance

to make no problems for others.

 

<< So what is your suggestion? >>

 

hindus have work to do internally as well as externally.

if you find a cobra in your home,

then it become your first priority to quickly get it out of your home. any thing else can be done later.

same for islam on the vedic land bharat.

 

<< Are you saying you should forget about all that and only punish muslims? >>

 

no. help the muslims to give up islam on the vedic land.

punishment is only the last way.

 

<< American or islamic or Indian evil, should be eliminated at all costs. >>

 

sure, but whenyou have a number pro problems,

there is always a priority what to do first and fast.

 

<< But to focus on JUST one evil such as Islam, is side-stepping the more serious issues. >>

 

no. it is the most urgent problems and needs a fix fast.

just like a cobra in your home,

or a cancer cell in your body.

 

[Guest guest]

Hinduism is very pure , Islam teaches terrorism.

Hindus learning peace and correct way of life , Muslims learns killing innocent peoples and converting innocent peoples to their corrupted religion. How can a corrupted religion teach good things? This type of religion should be destroyed. Saying NO other god than Allah is totally sux and permission to kill all the unbelievers are damn nonsense.

[barney]

Which other religion teaches jihad? Suicide bombing is only thought is Islam. Can any of the any of the Muslims count the number of innocent people killed by these barbarians? Where else in the world could one see hatred being preached in temples? Only in Islan hatred is being preached in mosques around the world. Can Muslim women freely walk along with non mulims in ny Islamic countries? Why must the muslims reminded in loud speakers [The Azan is uttered in a loud] calling Muslims to pray? Doesn't a true Muslim knows his time to pray? Other religions do not display or call [demand]its followers to pray. Folloers of every other religions know by heart their time for prayers and if they neglect it is between them and God but in Islam it compels one to do so for fear that he might one day transgress [murtad]. This religion is in constant fear that its followers might leave the religion and so strict syria laws were formulated such as fatwa calling for killing of any Muslims who transgress[murtad] and many other drastic laws which puts a mulsim in fear of leaving his or her faith in Islam. I can never agree that Islam is a religion of peace for it is my personal experience with Muslims who are quick at turning into violent when question about their belief. It is like as though they have been brainwashed to defend their religion at any cause. There is no reasoning with them. It is always I am right and you are wrong. A Hindu, Christian or Buddhist is free to mix with each other but a Muslim is always reluctant for fear the discussion of his religion might crop up. Such attitude is bad in any society be it a an Indian, European or American. We are people of the world and should not fear each other as we are all human and not some aliens from another planet. Customs, traditions, language and belief may differ but we are still the same human being with feelings and love so how could we see each other as enemies. The only reason that divides us is the religion and if we could put aside our belief and be a real human there would be eternal peace on earth. Even animals of various species live togather in the same jungle. Only when hungry do they seek one another and that is their nature but we humans have different qualites than animals because we ahve learned the language of communication and understanding and yet we cannot see eye to eye. We are worst than animals and this especially is refered to Muslims who have transmuted into animalism. If they do not revert into humanism this world would only see rivers of blood. God! help us.