Guest guest Posted June 16, 2004 Report Share Posted June 16, 2004 where does it say that visnu is greater than síva? and visnus 10th avatar is krsna, not the other way around. In the upanishads it say that rudra(s´va) is the only Lord Iswara, isnt it so that brahma, visnu and mahesh is trimurti of Mahashiva, Iswara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2004 Report Share Posted June 16, 2004 if u look at old egypt u will find that The supreme cause of all causes, The One God is Tem, and if u look to india u will find the name and form Govinda the same, therefor Govinda is the greatest and the trimurti is His power as in asatru, Odin, vile, ve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maadhav Posted June 16, 2004 Report Share Posted June 16, 2004 dont worry about it. if you belive siva is supreme, then worship him. all the hindus will be happy about it is it not a fair deal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2004 Report Share Posted June 16, 2004 chant Hare Krsna Hare Krsna Krsna Krsna Hare Hare Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare and u will see for uRself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2004 Report Share Posted June 16, 2004 "In the upanishads it say that rudra(s´va) is the only Lord Iswara" Where and which upanishads does it say that? Can you please quote the reference? The Vedas does not say much about Vishnu and Shiva, but talks more about Indra, Agni, Mitra, etc. Vishnu in the Vedas is identified with the sun. Vishnu, Shiva and Shakti are mainly spoken of in the Puranas, Itihaasa and Agamas. The competition between Vishnu and Rudra (Shiva) is mainly due to the Puranas and the sects created from them. If you want to read about what the Vedas teach you can buy some good books here: http://www.vedah.com/org/index.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barney Posted June 16, 2004 Report Share Posted June 16, 2004 Gods Hindus believe that there is one God, Brahman, who is the cause and foundation of all existence. Brahman, being the Absolute, is one, indivisible, unchangeable, beyond action and inaction, beyond good and evil. The Ultimate is referred to as Purushottoma (Highest Spirit), Parameshvara (Highest Lord), Bhagvan (God) and many other terms. But latent within Brahman is the power of life. When this power is manifested in the creation of a universe, it takes the form of maya, the material world. "Vedic Invocations, which are deemed animistic and crudely pagan by many scholars, merely invoke God through his attributes and functions. He is the Force behind all of nature's mighty forces, the Light behind the light; the Terror behind the terror; the Delight behind delights; the Ultimate Activity behind all activities. Similarly, God's various names in the Vedas are the one God viewed in terms of his attributes, functions, and nature. There is no real suggestion of anything besides the One." "Hardly polytheism. Long before the burgeoning Hindu pantheon; long before Siva, Vishnu, Rama, Ganesh, Parvati, Saraswati, Laxmi, and the 35,999,993 others, this is the God of the Vedas, and religion in its most pristine form." Excerpted from: "Empire of the Soul: Some journeys in India" by Paul William Roberts He is without any form, yet dwells inside and outside all things with form and shape, Yet He is entirely free of error, faultless and pure. He is far beyond anything a human body can comprehend. And being the Divine Poet. He is inspiration itself. He maintains peace and harmony because He is both peace and Harmony made manifest. -- Yajur Veda The Supreme Lord is not three. To me belongs the glory of meditating that I, His devoted servant, am He. As one imagines, so one becomes. Therefore, practice the meditation of "I am He." Then all your actions will become His action. -- Natchintanai He is present in all places and rules everywhere. His power controls utterly all the three regions: Earth, the Middle-Air, and the highest heavens. One foot is rooted in things we understand: But the other rests in a realm of deep, dark mystery, A place far beyond the knowledge of mankind. -- Artha Veda He is substance of every great eternal law, And He can be perceived in the universal forces of life. His presence is there in the vast seas, Across the teeming earth, And in the soaring mountain peaks. -- Rig Veda He is the Supreme Brahman, the Self of all, the chief foundation of this world, subtler than the subtle, eternal. That thou art; thou art That. -- Atharva Veda Lead me from unreality to reality. Lead me from darkness to light. Lead me from death to immortality. -- Yajur Veda Whatever exists and wherever it exists is permeated by the same divine power and force. -- Yajur Veda Him who is without beginning and without end, in the midst of confusion, the Creator of all, of manifold form, the One embracer of the universe--by knowing God, one is released from all fetters. -- Yajur Veda He is the never-created creator of all: He knows all. He is pure consciousness, the creator of time, all-powerful, all knowing. He is the Lord of the soul and of nature and of the three conditions of nature. From Him comes the transmigration of life and liberation, bondage in time and freedom in eternity. -- Yajur Veda God is, in truth, the whole universe: what was, what is and what beyond shall ever be. He is the God of life immortal and of all life that lives by food. His hands and feet are everywhere. He has heads and mouths everywhere. He sees all, He hears all. He is in all, and He is. -- Yajur Veda He is the God of forms infinite, in whose glory all things are, smaller than the smallest atom, and yet the creator of all, ever living in the mystery of his creation. In the vision of this God of love there is everlasting peace. -- Yajur Veda Fire is His head, the sun and moon His eyes, space His ears, the Vedas His speech, the wind His breath, the universe His heart. From His feet the earth has originated. Verily, He is the inner Self of all beings. -- Yajur Veda He the Self, is not this, not that. He is ungraspable, for He is not grasped. He is indestructible, for He cannot be destroyed, He is unattached, for He does not cling to anything. He is unbound, He does not suffer, nor is He injured. -- Yajur Veda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2004 Report Share Posted June 16, 2004 You also look like a devil worshipper. Do you listen to Ozzy or KISS, by the way? I do, and that's why i feel you, hindus, hks are so similar to us devil worshippers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2004 Report Share Posted June 16, 2004 may worship what u whant, but know that to worship the devil is to say to others that u worship sumting that man has invented himself, and that is plain stupid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 to be upset. I was paying you a compliment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 wheres my manors...as the Gita say I should not use harsh words, u are worshiping Krsna in a way to, all is His energys...but if u would whant to please the devil u would abandon all kind of faith and surrender to Krsna, that would please ur devil in fact. "Abandon all kind of religions and surrender unto Me. I shall free you from all sinfull reactions. Fear not! (Bg. 18.66) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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