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Hitler wasn't that interested.

It was Himmler who was more into mystics.

 

What i think - its just national socialism. it is the same idea of serving the one, but in this case it is the state. serve the state! :P lol, what a silly thing. he maybe read the Bhagavad Gita in his previous life and thought 'yes, i want to be this person' haha... look what an idiot, like Hiranyakashipu, although we should still offer him respect because he was in fact a pure devotee ... if he was killed by Krishna :/ /images/graemlins/shocked.gif

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hitler was black magic fun

he belonged to golden down

he considered this very spiritual haha!!

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the myth of hte twentyth century by alfred rosenberg. hitler was puppet and not a genius hess wrote mein kamph with hitler and rosenberg. hiter was public speaker only he not was a genius at all only a puppet of cultist manics that are still around today in the american government. thulists neo-pagans secretly run the nazi-sozi 3rd reich and hitler was pupper like george bush is. hitler was common man and was considered a good and considerate man of catholic belifes by most who knew him. history is jaded and lost of what really happend in WW2 was covered up or lied about. i highly doubt hitler was a hindu thougt he many have respected moch of hinduism his henchmen were the psudo-mystics. they followed thulism and theosophy. Savitri Devi was a italian married toa indian man, she adored hitler and many indians liked mein kamph that hess rosenberg helped hitler write. hitler was not a consitant racist eather. there were indian and muslim SS units and there were many jews in the SS also. my jewish cousin was in the lativan SS corps and my grandfather was a SS officer.

the united states is a fascist government. national socialism was started in america first not by hitler and mussilini was communist before he became a fascist. the nazi salute was adopted from america not the old roman empire. look up rex curry on the net , my father confermed what rex said and what i have said

 

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Just because Hitler was hated by Americans and British doesnt mean we should join them,who knows may be he did follow Bagavad Geetha,Germans were known to be Aryans,im sure some of you know that atleast.

 

Please properly research into the Vedas. Caste Hindus are considered Aryans; all other races are considered outcastes. It is a myth propagated by Hitler's regime that Germans are Aryans.

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Please properly research into the Vedas. Caste Hindus are considered Aryans; all other races are considered outcastes. It is a myth propagated by Hitler's regime that Germans are Aryans.

 

 

WRONG, both of you. Sometimes I seriously wonder where do some Hindus get their information from and wonder how can they follow their religion when they obviously have their info all wrong. The term ARYA (Aryan) means NOBLE- it has nothing to do with race. Now the Aryans may have been a different race from the natives- that is up for debate whether you believe in the AIT or not. However, the term aryan simply means noble people. In ancient times it was common for the priestly class in many cultures and civilizations to refer to themselves as noble. So it just happens to be that the priest class refered to themselves as ARYA (ARYAN). This ARYAN priestly class created a society (explained in the Vedas) to maintain society thus, the Brahmins, Kshatriyas, Vaisyas, Sudras. If you believe the AIT then the Sudras would have been the native population, if not then they are all mixed. Anyone outside of this mix is a Dalit- outcaste. NOTE- there was no outcaste in the VEDAS. This concept came much later on- possible after invasions of people from other countries.

 

So in closing, YES the Germans are IDIOTS for calling themselves ARYANS since it has nothing to do with a superior race.

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The term ARYA (Aryan) means NOBLE- it has nothing to do with race. Now the Aryans may have been a different race from the natives- that is up for debate whether you believe in the AIT or not. However, the term aryan simply means noble people.

 

Very well said. Aryan is a corruption of the word Arya. Arya means noble but certain people who developed early Hinduism were calling themselves Arya. The Aryans were likely to have lived from Persia (as Zoraster was Aryan), through Aryana (Afghanistan) to the north of India in Punjab.

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aryans aren't people who belong to a certain race or religion as misinterpreted by foolish western and indian scholars.

 

the real aryans are people who realize the true purpose in life is to reestablish the relationship between the soul and god, whoever realizes this is an aryan no matter race or religion they belong to.

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WRONG, both of you. Sometimes I seriously wonder where do some Hindus get their information from and wonder how can they follow their religion when they obviously have their info all wrong. The term ARYA (Aryan) means NOBLE- it has nothing to do with race. Now the Aryans may have been a different race from the natives- that is up for debate whether you believe in the AIT or not. However, the term aryan simply means noble people. In ancient times it was common for the priestly class in many cultures and civilizations to refer to themselves as noble. So it just happens to be that the priest class refered to themselves as ARYA (ARYAN). This ARYAN priestly class created a society (explained in the Vedas) to maintain society thus, the Brahmins, Kshatriyas, Vaisyas, Sudras. If you believe the AIT then the Sudras would have been the native population, if not then they are all mixed. Anyone outside of this mix is a Dalit- outcaste. NOTE- there was no outcaste in the VEDAS. This concept came much later on- possible after invasions of people from other countries.

 

So in closing, YES the Germans are IDIOTS for calling themselves ARYANS since it has nothing to do with a superior race.

 

Where are you getting your information? Bhaktivedanta Swami?

 

"If you believe the AIT then the Sudras would have been the native population, if not then they are all mixed."

 

WRONG. Chaitanya was born in a Brahmin caste. Has will Kalki at the end of Kali-Yuga. So how are all the castes mixed all of the sudden? Have you even visited India? There are milliions of caste Hindus who are not mixed with other castes.

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We don't know what caste Kalki will be. Caste is not an issue in Hinduism. Only corrupt Bramhins think such a thing.

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Where are you getting your information? Bhaktivedanta Swami?

 

"If you believe the AIT then the Sudras would have been the native population, if not then they are all mixed."

 

WRONG. Chaitanya was born in a Brahmin caste. Has will Kalki at the end of Kali-Yuga. So how are all the castes mixed all of the sudden? Have you even visited India? There are milliions of caste Hindus who are not mixed with other castes.

 

Actually, you misunderstood my quote. I said that if the AIT is not true then the native population mixed in with the aryans and so all castes are of mized races.

 

You seem like someone who supports caste and non mixing

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there are now many white, hispanic and even some black Hindus in the Americas and Europe - what caste are they? most western converts to Sanatana Dharma don't care about caste and may not even know much about caste practices in India. They are just happy to have found a meaningful spiritual path in eastern yoga practices and philosophy. To me they are greater followers of Sanatana Dharma, than anyone who teaches casteism. Religions are about spiritual improvement, not elitism..

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WRONG. Chaitanya was born in a Brahmin caste. Has will Kalki at the end of Kali-Yuga. So how are all the castes mixed all of the sudden? Have you even visited India? There are milliions of caste Hindus who are not mixed with other castes.

 

in 427,000 yrs there may not even be such a thing as a caste. Who knows what the world will look like by then?

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there are now many white, hispanic and even some black Hindus in the Americas and Europe - what caste are they? most western converts to Sanatana Dharma don't care about caste and may not even know much about caste practices in India. They are just happy to have found a meaningful spiritual path in eastern yoga practices and philosophy. To me they are greater followers of Sanatana Dharma, than anyone who teaches casteism. Religions are about spiritual improvement, not elitism..

 

I agree with you about caste. However, Hindus who are not Indian must understand that Hinduism isnt just an eastern yoga practice. These Gods and Goddess's that have walked this earth were real and were manifestations of the almighty. It's beyond just some "eastern yoga practice". I say this because a lot of non Indians get interested in Hinduism because they think it's cool, it teaches yoga and how to be one with God but Western Hindus must have faith in all of the Hindu Gods and Goddess's just as much as they think Yoga.

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I agree with you about caste. However, Hindus who are not Indian must understand that Hinduism isnt just an eastern yoga practice. These Gods and Goddess's that have walked this earth were real and were manifestations of the almighty. It's beyond just some "eastern yoga practice". I say this because a lot of non Indians get interested in Hinduism because they think it's cool, it teaches yoga and how to be one with God but Western Hindus must have faith in all of the Hindu Gods and Goddess's just as much as they think Yoga.

 

Yes, I know. I should have elaborated. Westerners who have converted to Saiva Siddhanta, or Kashmir Shaivism, Shaktism or one of the Vaishnava sects, do believe in God and the gods. By yoga practices I did not just mean those who do hatha yoga. I meant Yoga in it's broadest sense.. Bhakti, Jnana, Raja, etc, etc. I have seen pictures online of westerners doing Puja in their homes to Shiva Lingams or various Murtis, so it's clear those who have been intitiated by Gurus and seriously converted to a vedic tradition do believe in the God and the gods as real.

 

The largest Hindu magazine in the western world, Hinduism Today, is run by a group of Western Saivite converts. They are doing a lot to spread knowledge about the fullness of Sanatana Dharma beliefs and practices.

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in 427,000 yrs there may not even be such a thing as a caste. Who knows what the world will look like by then?

 

Again this is incorrect. Read Bhaktivedantas' Bhagavatam:

 

Canto 12 Chapter 2 Text 18

 

In the village of S'ambhala will Lord Kalki appear in the home of the great soul, the brahmin Vishnuyas'â ['the glory of Vishnu'].

 

Lord Kalki will appear in the home of the most eminent brâhmana of S'ambhala village, the great soul Vishnuyas'â.

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Again this is incorrect. Read Bhaktivedantas' Bhagavatam:

 

There may not even be such a thing as a village at the time as we think of 'villages'. Just think how much villages have vanished for big city life around the globe in the past 100 yrs.. We may be all living in encapsulated floating cities in space 427,000 yrs from now. Do you know how long 427,000 yrs is and all that can and will happen before that amount of time passes? Can you imagine how much technological advancements we will have, and what the world might look like at this time? Or we might be back in a dark ages, and have gone through a nuclear cleansing before then. There may be no such thing as India as we know it today.. there may be huge continental shifts, or an ice age, or who knows what, before then. To argue about whether there will be casteism 427,000 yrs down the road from now is really ridiculous when you think about it. We don't even know what the world will look like 100 yrs from now.

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There may not even be such a thing as a village at the time as we think of 'villages'. Just think how much villages have vanished for big city life around the globe in the past 100 yrs.. We may be all living in encapsulated floating cities in space 427,000 yrs from now. Do you know how long 427,000 yrs is and all that can and will happen before that amount of time passes? Can you imagine how much technological advancements we will have, and what the world might look like at this time? Or we might be back in a dark ages, and have gone through a nuclear cleansing before then. There may be no such thing as India as we know it today.. there may be huge continental shifts, or an ice age, or who knows what, before then. To argue about whether there will be casteism 427,000 yrs down the road from now is really ridiculous when you think about it. We don't even know what the world will look like 100 yrs from now.

 

 

You can't stop everyone from believin g in caste. People like Aumshanti (probably a born Brahmin himself) are full of illusion and taking full advantage of Kali Yug. Hindu Gods and Goddess's manifested themselves into many different castes and Lord Krishna himself was a tribal and cowherd. So obviously bieng born a Brahmin is not that important. Remember, Brahmin supremacy is evil but the evil Brahmins are getting their karma now they know all men are created equal and God knows no caste.

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You can't stop everyone from believin g in caste. People like Aumshanti (probably a born Brahmin himself) are full of illusion and taking full advantage of Kali Yug. Hindu Gods and Goddess's manifested themselves into many different castes and Lord Krishna himself was a tribal and cowherd. So obviously bieng born a Brahmin is not that important. Remember, Brahmin supremacy is evil but the evil Brahmins are getting their karma now they know all men are created equal and God knows no caste.

 

yeah in his past life he may have been an african slave on a plantation, or some other persecuted, lowly person on this earth, so now he's enjoying the high life of being on top. Instead of learning humility from his last life, which he should have. I guess, in his next life, he may be reborn in Ethiopia, or as a mexican farm worker, or in some other humble estate. Then humility will be forced to return.

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Total nonsense - Hitler in all his delusions was interested in only that which was german - thus - he was so-called following [not even really having any faith though] the old pagan gods of gaul.

 

Surely Hitler never once wrote anything about the vedic texts - in his mind the people in india were pretty much savages - which were then under full subjugation - by the British.

 

In fact there was a time that I was unaware of the deep hate in places outside germany - recently I saw these comments [and check out where they are employed!]:

 

http://etori.tripod.com/dajjalsystem/thirdtemple.html

 

So good old winston churchill said horrible things 86 years ago - BEFORE - the hitler era - so me thinks there is a big problem and it was bigger than just hitler - [and it besmirches the present as well]:

 

<center>"It would almost seem as if the gospel of Christ

and the gospel of Antichrist were destined

to originate from the same people"

 

Winston Churchill, Sunday Illustrated Herald, February 8, 1920

</center>

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Total nonsense - Hitler in all his delusions was interested in only that which was german - thus - he was so-called following [not even really having any faith though] the old pagan gods of gaul.

 

Surely Hitler never once wrote anything about the vedic texts - in his mind the people in india were pretty much savages - which were then under full subjugation - by the British.

 

In fact there was a time that I was unaware of the deep hate in places outside germany - recently I saw these comments [and check out where they are employed!]:

 

http://etori.tripod.com/dajjalsystem/thirdtemple.html

 

So good old winston churchill said horrible things 86 years ago - BEFORE - the hitler era - so me thinks there is a big problem and it was bigger than just hitler - [and it besmirches the present as well]:

 

<center>"It would almost seem as if the gospel of Christ

and the gospel of Antichrist were destined

to originate from the same people"

 

Winston Churchill, Sunday Illustrated Herald, February 8, 1920

</center>

 

So why is there a propaganda that the expected Hebrew messiah is actually some "antichrist"? Why is it so widespread and seemingly entrenched in the fabric of cultures and faiths?

 

Who started this lie? Why did they start this lie?

 

To know the scriptures is to know that Jesus was not the messiah [people should know and respect who he really was/is] - so - is the enmity born of that - in those that believe he was?

 

Is it that they too knew the sciptures were foretelling some other person - who was not Jesus - that they then began to create an antichrist figure - by interpolation and misrepresentation of texts.

 

The Muslims and the christians both now have a whole delusional theology - bent around this illusion.

 

A feeling of hate and envy that was created too long ago to know is now being blindly followed by millions and - it may be going to lead to a scenario that brings injury to many in our world.

 

Haven't there been enough murdered over this hate? How long is this hate - this disease - going to infect humanity?

 

These people who created this antichrist/al-dajal theology were very very passionate about it and - they 'feared' that the real Messiah could 'show up' at any time - so - they really hyped the message - that if he did show up the peoples would believe and say that he was - the antichrist.

 

So here today this lie is being taught and - a sincere study shows that it really has nothing to do with the truth - and - what if the Hebrew messiah were to advent soon [as he is to be a human being] - how many would try to kill him or otherwise denounce him as the antichrist?

 

He has his work ahead of him - that's for sure!

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