Guest guest Report post Posted June 2, 2004 Guest Unregistered kalki avatar [re: Guest] 04/19/04 02:41 PM Edit Reply I. In Hindu religious books (Hindu scriptures), it is stated that Kalki Avatar would be the last messenger of God in this world. He would come as a guide of the whole world and for all human beings. (Rahma-tul-lil-Aalameen). 2. According to a Hindu religion prediction of the birth of Kalki Avatar would take place in a desert place which is an Arab region. 3. Indication about Kajki Avatar given in Hindu Religious book is that he would be born on the 12th of a month. Incidentally Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) was also born on the 12th of Rabi-ul-Awwal (Hijra Calendar). 4. In the books of Hindus, the names of the father and the mother of Kalki Avatar are given as VISHNU-BHAGAT and SUMAAN1 respectively. If we examine the meaning of these names we shall come to some interesting conclusion. (a) VISHNU (meaning God) and BHAGAT (meaning Slave). Slave of God. ABDULLAH (in Arabic) is the name of Prophet's (PBUH) father. It means the same --The slave of Allah. (b) SUMAANI (Meaning peace or calmness). Aminah (in Arabic) means peace). Aminah is the name of Prophet's (PBUH) Mother. 5. It is stated in Vedas (holy book of Hindu Religion) that the birth of Kalki Avatar would take place in an honorable clan. This perfectly fits the Quraish tribe in which Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) was born. 6. In the religious books of Hindus, it is mentioned that the staple food of Kalki Avatar would be dates and olives and he would be the most honest and truthful person in the region. Without doubt the Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) is acclaimed to possess these qualities. 7. God would teach Kalki Avatar through His messenger (angel) m a cave. Allah taught Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) through His messenger Jibraeel (Gabriel) in a cave known as Ghaar-e-Hira. 8. God would provide Kalki Avatar with a very speedy horse to ride and travel through the seven skies. It is an indication of burraq (horse) and Meraaj- (the night when Prophet (PBUH) traveled through the seven skies. 9. God would provide Kalki Avatar with divine help. This was proved in the battles of Badar and Uhad. 10. Hindu religious books say that Kalki Avatar would be an excellent horse rider and a swordsman. The author here draws the attention of Hindus that the real days of horses and swords have gone some fourteen hundred years ago. (Present times are missiles and rockets). 11. Sweet smell would come out from the body of Kalki Avatar. Incidentally sweet fragrance always radiated out from the body of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH). The author has given enough evidence and arguments in favour of his claim that Kalki Avatar is in fact Prophet Mohammed (PBUH). So it would be wrong on the part of Hindus to still expect Kalki Avatar to come. Torah at Deuteronomy 18:15 and Bible at John at 14:16, 15:26 and 16:7 also forecast the coming of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH). Buddhist and Parsi religious books also mention about his arrival. Conclusion: This claim is good enough for Hindus to revert to Islam and follow Kalki's teachings all of which are in Qur'aan. -- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sefroth77 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2004 I Think you get all of this from a Islamic Point of View. Its Deemed False. Trust me i've been through all this. Its a Conversion Tactic by them to convert Hindus. """In Hindu religious books (Hindu scriptures), it is stated that Kalki Avatar would be the last messenger of God in this world. He would come as a guide of the whole world and for all human beings. (Rahma-tul-lil-Aalameen).""" Kalki Avatar is NOT a Messenger of God. Lord Shri Kalki is the Supreme Personality Of Godhead. He is GOD. He will come to KILL not to teach. He will come in about 428,000yrs from now. "" According to a Hindu religion prediction of the birth of Kalki Avatar would take place in a desert place which is an Arab region.""" Lord Kalki will come From Shambala. He will NEVER be from a Arab Region and NOT a Desert !!! """ Indication about Kajki Avatar given in Hindu Religious book is that he would be born on the 12th of a month. Incidentally Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) was also born on the 12th of Rabi-ul-Awwal (Hijra Calendar).""" Kalki Avatar will come in 428,000 years from Now when people will be short as dwarf and has a life-span of 25yrs. Technology will be lost than. People will go back to Primative ways, thats when Lord Kalki will come mounted on a White Horse with a sword on his hand. He will come to kill meat eaters and the wicked and Restored Satya-Yuga where the world will once again be peaceful. Is this Happening now??? Sorry not enough time to type sleepy already. All i can say LORD Kalki is God Himself and NOT a messenger of God. 1."" God would teach Kalki Avatar through His messenger (angel) m a cave. Allah taught Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) through His messenger Jibraeel (Gabriel) in a cave known as Ghaar-e-Hira""" 2. God would provide Kalki Avatar with a very speedy horse to ride and travel through the seven skies. It is an indication of burraq (horse) and Meraaj- (the night when Prophet (PBUH) traveled through the seven skies. 3. God would provide Kalki Avatar with divine help. This was proved in the battles of Badar and Uhad. All the three above statements are false. Lord Kalki is GOD himself, I'm repeating Lord Kalki is The Supreme Controller of this Universe, He Dosen't Have anybody higher than him. Lord Kalki is Lord Krishna. The second coming of Christ or the second coming of Krishna is the same. Lord Krishna and Lord Kalki are the same Superme with different names. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 3, 2004 thank u very much for your explaination /images/graemlins/smile.gif Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maadhav 0 Report post Posted June 4, 2004 all this is nonsense by some muslim who intents to convert the hindus using lies. now, if you have difficulty in beliving what i said, and want to believe the muslim instead, then fine. go and become a muslim, but do not live in india because it is not for islam. saudi arabia is right for you then. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 11, 2004 it sounds that u got a grudge against islam...if islam is for the desert then vaisnavas should not preach in the western lands!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 11, 2004 Sefroth, that was an excellent answer. Unfortuantely whoever wrote that about the Kalki avatar is ignorant and should further study the scriptures for his own benefit /images/graemlins/smile.gif He should give up his drive for conversion and religious division, and should seek to devote his life, and perhaps convince some of his Hindu friends, to devote their lives to Krihsna /images/graemlins/smile.gif Jai Sri Krishna! -Amit Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maadhav 0 Report post Posted June 11, 2004 << it sounds that u got a grudge against islam...>> i am representing the hindus who have been slaughetered in millions for 1000 years by islamists in india. who would expect me to love islam? << if islam is for the desert then vaisnavas should not preach in the western lands!! >> islam alwasy has invaded by brutal force almost every where. no hindu or Hk is spreading dharma by force. no one should forget that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 11, 2004 athasau yuga-sandhyayam dasyu-prayesu rajasu janita visnu-yasaso namna kalkir jagat-patih Translation: "Thereafter, at the conjunction of two yugas, the Lord of the creation will take His birth as the Kalki incarnation and become the son of Visnu Yasa. At this time the rulers of the earth will have degenerated into plunderers." So the human society is becoming so degraded that they are trying to forget God. That is their advancement of civilization. The more you deny existence of God and become a so-called rascal scientist, then you are advanced. This is the position. So this position will degrade so much after, say, 400,000's of years, gradually degrading, that at time, Krsna will come in His incarnation as Kalki. At that time the Kalki's business will be simply to kill. That's all. No more. No more preaching of Krsna consciousness. Simply kill them. That is Kalki avatara. That Kalki avatara is given the father's name. This is called sastra. This is called scripture. Four hundred thousand's after, 400,000's of years after, Kalki will come. Now, His father's name is given there. Just like Lord Buddha's mother's name is there. So you cannot imitate that "I am Kalki avatara." You have to give evidence, what is your father's name. Just see. This is called sastra. Any rascal comes, "Oh, I am Krsna. I am this avatara and that avatara," but where is the evidence from the sastra? We cannot accept. Just like any gentleman comes, we want to see the credential. Just like in politics, when some ambassador comes to a new country, then he has to officially present his credential so that he will be accepted that "This gentleman is representative of such and such country." That is nice. Unless you give credentials, identity, how I can accept you? So... But people have become rascal. Anyone comes, he says that "I am incarnation of God," because the people are rascals, they accept another rascal. But if you follow the sastras and scriptures, then you will find all the avataras, their credentials are there -- What is the father's name, what is the name of the place he takes birth or appears, what is his business. So... What is the time. Everything is given there. So why should you be misled? So we accept incarnation of God when all the descriptions are corroborated in terms of the authorized sastra. Otherwise we reject. That is our business. So in this verse... Why we accept Vedic scripture as solid truth? Because there is no mistake. Otherwise, how it is predicting that yuga-sandhyayam, "In the last conjunction of the yugas, there will appear the Lord"? Kalkir namna, namna kalkih. "His name will be Kalki. But He is not ordinary person." Namna kalkir jagat-patih. "He is the Supreme Personality of Godhead. He is not ordinary man. And His father's name is..." Janita visnu-yasasah. "His father's name will be Visnu Yasa." The Yasa title are there in India still. One Mr. Yasi (Joshi) corresponds with us. So the Josha, or Joshi, this title is already there. So they are brahmanas. Here, all the descriptions are not there, but in other place, all the descriptions are there. Not only his father's name, name, His village or the place, Sambhal. There is still a place Sambhalpur in India. So everything is there. We should not be misled that "Here is another avatara, here is another avatara, here is... So many avataras." No. So this is called sastra: what will happen after 400,000's of years, that is mentioned. Future. Just like Lord Buddha's name was there. Bhavisyati yuga-sandhyayam. Bhavisyati. Bhavisyati means "He will come." He was not visible. This is sastra. Sastra means tri-kala-jna. The writer of sastra should be a full cognizant of past, present, and future. That is called unmistakable. Past, present, and future. Krsna says in the Bhagavad-gita that "I know past, present, and future." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 11, 2004 The Kalki Avatara is described in detail in the Srimad Bhagavatam, 12th skanda. Therein it gives predictions as to where he will appear (the village name), who his parents will be, what his mission will be, and when he will appear. It is described that he will incarnate at the end of the Kali yuga, which lasts a total of 432,000 years. So far only 5,000 years of Kali yuga have passed, leaving us with 427,000 years till the advent of Kalki. The following texts from the Srimad Bhagavatam give us insight into this future incarnation: shambhala-grama-mukhyasya brahmanasya mahatmanah bhavane vishnuyashasah kalkih pradurbhavishyati "Lord Kalki will appear in the home of the most eminent brahmana of Shambhala village, the great soul Vishnuyasha." ashvam ashu-gam aruhya devadattam jagat-patih asinasadhu-damanam ashtaishvarya-gunanvitah vicarann ashuna kshaunyam hayenapratima-dyutih nripa-linga-cchado dasyun kotisho nihanishyati "Lord Kalki, the Lord of the universe, will mount His swift horse Devadatta and, sword in hand, travel over the earth exhibiting His eight mystic opulences and eight special qualities of Godhead. Displaying His unequaled effulgence and riding with great speed, He will kill by the millions those theives who have dared dress as kings." atha tesham bhavishyanti manamsi vishadani vai vasudevanga-ragati- punya-gandhanila-sprisham paura-janapadanam vai hatesv akhila-dasyushu "After all the imposter kings have been killed, the residents of the cities and towns will feel the breezes carrying the most sacred fragrance of the sandalwood paste and other decorations of Lord Kalki, and their minds will thereby become transcendentally pure." yadavatirno bhagavan kalkir dharma-patir harih kritam bhavishyati tada praja-sutish ca sattviki "When the Supreme Lord has appeared on earth as Kalki, the maintainer of religion, Satya-yuga [the age of truth] will begin, and human society will bring forth progeny in the mode of goodness." This is a summary of the Kalki avatara who will appear after 427,000 years. There is another avatara described in the scriptures for the age of Kali. He is known by the name Sri Krishna Chaitanya Mahaprabhu, and he appeared aproximately 500 years ago. You can read the following article if you are interested in more information on this very special incarnation of the Lord: http://www.indiadivine.com/tattva14.htm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 8, 2004 lord kalki is krishna the almighty or just an avatara? can anyone explain... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 8, 2004 he's an almighty avatara Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
