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New discoverys in south africa shows that the human might have been as far back as 150.000 years. They've now found a neckless made of shell that were 75.000 years old.

 

What do you hinduists feel and think about this?

 

This is pretty new born news and are not all open in media all over the world. I came to know this since I live in the same country and city that made this discovery. I'll be posting some more articles from online soon.

 

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What do you hinduists feel and think about this?

 

 

..that we already know it.. human race is eternal... very soon they will not discover only abhorigens but also signs of higly civilized individuals and their environment, cities, vehicles, weapons and so on..

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What have you been told? What do you belive? Acording to Gita, hindus didn't know this, cause acording to Gita, the homasaphience wheren't here then. Hindu has allways been you say? Since when? Now you're lost my friend. Maybe you're not really a hindu but just an indiviualist who want's to be right all the time, whatever people say(??)

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Acording to Gita, hindus didn't know this, cause acording to Gita, the homasaphience wheren't here then.

 

 

read better... krsna gave the gita's message initially to vivasvan many yugas before

 

and ultimately gita's message is eternal and the kuruksetra lila is eternal

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Maybe you're not really a hindu but just an indiviualist who want's to be right all the time, whatever people say(??)

 

if you are not like me, give the right example staying quiet and silent

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THE HINDU CONCEPT OF TIME

According to Hindu religion and cosmology the flow of Time is eternal. Creation and Dissolution are only two events in a long cyclic succession of Cosmic events. There is no beginning in the past and there is no end to the future. Creation is a manifestation in concrete terms of the Absolute. Dissolution is when all the created universe merges in the Absolute. And that is when the period of non-manifestation begins. The periods of manifestation and non-manifestation alternate. These are the days and nights of Brahma. Brahma Himself is a manifestation of the Absolute. He has a life of 100 years in His time. Between one Kalpa (technical name for Brahma’s day) and the next, the only thing that survive are, Brahma himself (who has to be ‘brought back to memory’, by the Absolute, after his ‘sleep’ !), the Vedas in their latent form and the collected aggregate of vaasanaas (imprints of actions and thoughts) of all individual souls. Just as each kalpa is followed by another kalpa with an intervening Cosmic Night and so also one Brahma is followed by another Brahma.

 

Portion of Brahma’s day elapsed so far

(till say, 2000 A.D.) consists of

 

 

Age of the Universe

Portion of Brahma’s day elapsed so far (till say, 2000 A.D.) consists of Duration Table

· 6 manvantara-twilights (6 x 4l ) · 6 manvantaras completed (6 x71 x10l ) · 1 manvantara-twilight before the 7th (4 l ) · 27 maha-yugas past in this manvantara (27 x 10l ) · elapsed yugas in this maha-yuga ((4 + 3 + 2) l ) · 5102 years in kali-yuga This adds up to 4567 l + 5102 = 1,972,949,102 human years This is the present (as of 2000A.D.) age of the universe in this day of Brahma Duration of Kali-yuga (l ) = 432,000 (human years) Duration of Dvapara-yuga (2l )Duration of Treta-yuga (3l )Duration of Satya-yuga (4l ) Duration of maha-yuga: (l + 2 l + 3 l + 4l ) = 10lDuration of manvantara: 71 x 10lDuration of one manvantra- twilight : 4l (one before every manvantara)

 

 

What follows is a description of the age of Kali as found in the Vedic scriptures. Kali-Yuga (the age of quarrel) started 5,000 years ago (3,102

B.C.) and is scheduled to last a total of 432,000 years, leaving 427,000 years to go. At the end of Kali-Yuga (i.e., in 427,000 years) The

Yuga-cycle will start over with Satya-Yuga, the Age of Truth. In the age of Kali, people are spontaneously attracted to sinful

activities and are devoid of the regulations of the scriptures. The so-called "twice-born" are degraded by their low-class activities and

those who are born in low-class families are alway s hostile to brahminical culture. Indulging in overeating, absorbed in bodily consciousness,

lazy, intellectually dull and greedy for others properties, they are consistently against God-consciousness. Due to being overly inclined

towards false paths without essence, they manufacture their own processes for self-realisation. Neglecting their actual duties they are expert in blaspheming you (the Supreme Personality of Godhead) and the saintly persons; hence again Mother Earth is in tears due to this burden. "O learned one, in this iron age of Kali men have but short lives. They are quarrelsome, lazy, misguided, unlucky and, above all, always

disturbed." (S.B. 1.1.10)

 

"In the Kali-Yuga the population is just a royal edition of the animals. They have nothing to do with spiritual knowledge or godly religious life. They are so blind that they cannot see anything beyond the jurisdiction of the subtle mind, intelligence or ego, but they are very much proud of their advancement in knowledge, science and material prosperity. They can risk their lives to become a dog or hog j ust after leaving the present body, for they have completely lost sight of the ultimate aim of life." (S.B.1.3.43)

 

The people of the world in this age of Kali are always full of anxieties. Everyone is diseased with some kind of ailment. From the very faces of the people of this age, one can find out the index of the mind. Everyone feels the absence of his relative who is away from home. The particular symptom of the age of Kali is that no family is now blessed to live together. To earn a livelihood, the father lives at a place far away from the son, or the wife lives far away from the husband and so on. There are sufferings from internal diseases, separation from those near and dear, and anxieties for maintaining the status quo. These are but some important factors, which make the people of this age always unhappy. With the progress of the age of Kali, four things particularly, namely the duration of life, mercy, the power of recollection, and moral

or religious principles will gradually diminish. Since Dharma, or the principles of religion, would be lost in the proportion of three out of

four, the symbolic bull is standing on one leg only. When three fourths of the whole world becomes irreligious, the situation is converted into hell for the animals. In the age of Kali, godless civilizations will create so many so -called religious societies in which the Personality of Godhead will be directly or indirectly defied. And thus faithless societies of men will make the world uninhabitable for the saner section of people. In this age of Kali, the women and the children will be grossly neglected and left unprotected. In this age illicit connection with women will render many women and children uncared for. Circumstantially, the women will try to become independent of the protection of men, and marriage will be performed as a matter of formal agreement between man and woman. In most cases the children will not be taken care of properly.. Education and bad character go ill together, but such things will run parallel. The administrative heads as a class will condemn the tenets of Vedic wisdom and will prefer to conduct a so-called secular state. Even a philosopher and writer of many books on religious principles may also accept an exalted post in a government, which denies all the moral codes of the sastras. These are some of the symptoms of the Kali age, which are harmful to the general welfare of human society. Therefore, by the influence of the age of Kali, everywhere, politically, socially or religiously, everything is topsy-turvy, and therefore for the sane man it is most regrettable. (S.B.1:16:19-22).

 

As the earth becomes crowded with a corrupt population, whoever among any of the social classes shows himself to be the strongest will

gain political power. Losing their wives and properties to such avaricious and merciless rulers, who will behave no bet ter than ordinary thieves, the citizens will flee to the mountains and forests. Harassed by famine and excessive taxes, people will resort to eating leaves, roots, flesh, wild honey, fruits, flowers and seeds. Struck by drought, they will become completely ruined. The citizens will suffer greatly from cold, wind, heat, rain and snow. They will be further tormented by quarrels, hunger, thirst, disease and severe anxiety. The maximum duration of life for human beings in Kali-Yuga will become fifty years.

 

By the time the age of Kali ends, the bodies of all creatures will be greatly reduced in size, and the religious principles of followers of

varnasrama will be ruined. The path of the Vedas will be completely forgotten in human society, and so-called religion will be mostly atheistic. The kings will mostly be thieves, the occupations of men will be stealing and lying and needless violence, and all the social classes will be reduced to the lowest level of sudras. Cows will be like goats, spiritual hermitages will be no different from mundane houses, and family ties will extend no further than the immediate bonds of marriage. Most plants and herbs will be tiny, and all trees will appear like dwarf semi trees. Clouds will be full of lightning and homes will be devoid of piety. At that time, the Supreme Personality of Godhead will appear on the earth. Acting with the power of pure spiritual goodness, He will rescue eternal religion."

(S.B.12.2.1-16)

 

In the age of Kali, people’s minds will always be agitated. Famine and taxation, my dear King, and will will emaciate them and will always be disturbed by fear of drought. They will lack adequate clothing, food and drink, will be unable to properly rest, have sex or bathe themselves, and will have no ornaments to decorate their bodies. In fact, the people of Kali-Yuga will gradually come to appear like ghostly, haunted creatures. Men will develop hatred for each other even over a few coins. Giving up friendly relations, they will be ready to lose their own lives and kill even their own relatives. Men will no longer protect their elderly parents, their children or the unrespectable wives. Thoroughly degraded, they will care only to satisfy their own bellies and genitals. Terrified, about to die, a man collapses on his bed. Although his voice is faltering and he is hardly conscious of what he is saying, if he utters the holy name of the Supreme Lord he can be freed from the reaction of his furtive work and achieve the supreme destination. But still people in the age of Kali will not worship the Supreme Lord."

(S.B.12.3.24-44).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hare Krsna.

 

According to Vedas Lord Brahma lives for 311 Trillion years.

 

Now here is something to think about:

 

Time is Eternal, so how many Lord Brahma have come and gone?

 

Haha, you can't say can you?!

 

So this time is like a flash in the pan.

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i thought they also found remains from ayodhya under the sea - 2 million year old symbols...

 

its obvious that humans have always been around...

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Vedas = People talking. Story over time from mouth to mouth. "Someone told me that..." etc..

 

OK!? :-S

 

Pretty easy to cheat you, is it? Cause I've heard something too. I turst this person, so just belive me and that will be true to you too /images/graemlins/wink.gif

 

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vedas = HIGHER authority

 

you = lower authority - therefore we don't believe you!!!

 

Seriously, the vedas = knowledge...

 

written at least 5000 years ago, yet it predicts:

 

a) the timespan of earth (confirmed by Nasa)

b) speed of light (confirmed by Nasa)

c) diameter of all the solar system planets (confirmed by Nasa)

d) the ultimate medicine (now being patented by US pharmaceutical companies)

e) the advent of Mohammed, Jesus and Buddha

f) it describes antimatter in detail...

 

need i go on?

 

the vedas are much more than 'people talking'

 

still if u want to stay in KALI-IGNORANCE, go ahead...

 

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U need to check you knowlenge about what the indians and hinusts predicted. I personaly know about the hindu history about science and math history, and they didn't get mutch correct results. What they found was not mutch from vedas but from math, same as the scientists, but not as correct as the egyptians, mayas and many other..

 

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that explains why the biggest pharmaceutical companies are patenting ayurveda...because it 'didn't get much correct results?'

 

maths - vedas the source of numbers, source of all these mathematical calculations

 

astronomy - no egyptian managed to get anything as near to the veda in terms of accuracy of other planet's dimensions and speed of light etc...

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now you're not talking about vedas but written words, epics and puranas. Not that I belive anyof vedas to be original and /or true, cause I have no idea (I didn't see or live at that time).

 

 

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