vishnu Posted February 12, 2005 Report Share Posted February 12, 2005 Srimad Bhagavatam... i dont know were this is from but might someone explain to me what this is, im not that much home in hinduism. i dont believe it comes from God, so please tell me what is this and when was it written. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vishnu Posted February 12, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2005 oops this was meant as a reply, not as a new topic. oh well. its a nice subject anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sumedh Posted February 12, 2005 Report Share Posted February 12, 2005 Hare Krishna and dandavat pranam I think this number 10 is unnecessarily causing confusion. The ten are given as specific examples, but more incarnations are also mentioned. Srimad-Bhagavatam (written around the same 3100BC) contains twenty-four incarnations and also has specifically written that there are innumerable incarnations from the Lord in all the innumerable planets in all the innumerable universes all the time, since time immemorial. Jesus is considered to be a saktyavesha incarnation i.e. an empowered incarnation (just like Lord Buddha who is also a saktyavesha avataara, as opposed to Lord Rama or Lord Krishna who are directly the Supreme Personality of Godhead) meaning when a jiva is specifically empowered to carry out a particular mission -- no need to unnecessarily create a new list of the ten incarnations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sumedh Posted February 12, 2005 Report Share Posted February 12, 2005 Hare Krishna and dandavat pranam Let me tell you briefly about the Vedic texts: Originally there was only one Veda (which literally means knowledge, and all kinds of knowledge including material) which was transmitted by hearing and learning. Before the start of the current age (Kali-yuga or the age of hypocricy and quarrel) Srila Vyasadeva (who was again a saktyavesha avataara) knowing that the memory of the people will degrade much put it into a written form and divided it into four: Rig, Yajur, Sama and Atharva, and his disciples further divided them into 1,130 divisions. Each division has 4 minor divisions, namely the Samhitas, Brahmanas, Aranyakas and Upanisads. Thus altogether the 4 Vedas contain 1,130 Samhitas, 1,130 Brahmanas, 1,130 Aranyakas, and 1,130 Upanisads. This makes a total of 4,520 divisions. These were passed on in disciplic successions but today due to the influence of time we can find only about 5-6% of these texts, but fortunately the ones relating to spiritual knowledge are well kept by the authorized disciplic successions. These are all called "sruti" meaning that which was received as the sound vibration from Lord Brahmaa (who received it from Krishna) and are directly the words of the Supreme Lord. In addition the Bhagavad-Gita is also sruti since they are the direct words of Lord when He manifested pastimes on the earthly plane. In addition to these Srila Vyasadeva compiled the Vedanta-sutra, eighteen puraanas (plus upa-puraanas) meaning historical references which were also manifest alongwith the Veda and which explain the meanings of Vedic texts; it is not possible to understand the Vedic texts without these and also wrote Mahabharata to further explain them. However, even after this he was not satisfied and then his Spiritual Master Narada Muni instructed him to describe the transcendental pastimes of Lord Krishna for the devotees. He then compiled the Srimad-Bhagavatam which is the ripened fruit of all vedic literature and crest jewel of all rasika shashtras. To give an idea of the sea of Vedic literature: consider the puraanas which were condensed to 240000 verses (from the original of billion verses) by Srila Vyasadeva. The Srimad-Bhagavatam is one of the medium sized one containing 18000 verses and comes in 12 cantos (the largest is Padma Puraana containing something like 55000 verses). In any case the authorized disciplic successions consider Bhagavad-Gita and Srimad-Bhagavatam to be complete for those who wish to study Vedic literature. Some more details can be found here: http://www.gosai.com/dvaita/madhvacarya/srimad-bhagavatam.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2005 Report Share Posted February 13, 2005 all this speculation about jesus and one book in the whole world about him. no further proof about him no vast amount of info and a it was a very small cult. why does jesus get so much credit? i can not understand all this hoop la about this mythological figure. assigning him a with a mission from god? so weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vishnu Posted February 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2005 holy mother of the Lord, thanks for all that info-a billion verses :shock: ok as for guest, there are many gospels and info about him as well as the event from the bible (the destruction of the city Sodom, the flood covering the earth-geological places) and hardly every text has been put in the bible-in fact many texts have not been put in the bible and bibles differ with every translation and even church (some bibles have 66 some have 73 books) and as for proof http://www.greaterthings.com/Word-Number/ and www.biblecodedigest.com hope to have helped. eternal blessing to you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sumedh Posted February 13, 2005 Report Share Posted February 13, 2005 It is 400,000 verses in total in the Puraanas instead of 240000, i wrote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2005 Report Share Posted February 13, 2005 all the stories are rewritten versions of the same story, there is one book of christ in the bible. only one author in the bible is said to have know jesus and it was found to be also a addaption as the bible was written 200 plus years after jesus was dead. your history is highly flawed. there are people around here that know the truth of things. the bible is myth the new testament especially. the true story of christ is a simple story he is not anything more then a gentile under jewist rule that disliked the roman and jewish laws and was a robble rouser and nothing more, not the messiaha he is not of any hebrew tribe he is not the hebrew messiha. period. jesus was a gentile aka not a jew! there for not their profit. pun intended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vishnu Posted February 14, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 he sure did say something rather opposite than you say about him. he said he came to fulfill the law. and whether they knew him or not, the holy spirit wrote the gospels mostly, and it is filled with great truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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