Guest guest Report post Posted August 29, 2009 Truth is beyond debate, It is experienced not debated. Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video highlights and more. Click here http://cricket. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 30, 2009 Hi Shrikant, This is true - the only way to really know is experience. And many times we are drawn to the writings, art, music ect that inspires us to those experiences. But ultimately it is our own experience of the divine that brings us to these realizations. I find it beautiful how this divinity comes through for people - whether you see deities from that religion you believe in many times and sometimes in other ways - by seeing other symbols of other beliefs...it comes from the same place and is beautiful in the many ways it comes for people. Sometimes when we see it come as something other than our preconceived notions it gets even more interesting opening us up to all others. I for one would never have imagined divinity coming to me in snakes, spiders, wolves, tigers, eyes, lights and many other experiences of energy vibrations ... all that was not in my upbringing. Would have gone much smoother for me if I understood then that it was all divinity - all I needed to do was keep love in my heart and surrender completely and fully. Ahhhh....well some of us learn the hard way too! (: haha Thank you for your words and much love to you our dear Shrikant! Deb (: , shrikant phule <shrikantphule wrote: > > Truth is beyond debate, > > It is experienced not debated. > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 30, 2009 The words are not mine They are quoted by some one else. I am just an interpreter. After experiencing & quot;THAT & quot; flowerpowers7777 wrote: > > Hi Shrikant, > This is true - the only way to really know is experience. And many times we are drawn to the writings, art, music ect that inspires us to those experiences. But ultimately it is our own experience of the divine that brings us to these realizations. > I find it beautiful how this divinity comes through for people - whether you see deities from that religion you believe in many times and sometimes in other ways - by seeing other symbols of other beliefs...it comes from the same place and is beautiful in the many ways it comes for people. Sometimes when we see it come as something other than our preconceived notions it gets even more interesting opening us up to all others. I for one would never have imagined divinity coming to me in snakes, spiders, wolves, tigers, eyes, lights and many other experiences of energy vibrations ... all that was not in my upbringing. Would have gone much smoother for me if I understood then that it was all divinity - all I needed to do was keep love in my heart and surrender completely and fully. > Ahhhh....well some of us learn the hard way too! (: haha > Thank you for your words and much love to you our dear Shrikant! > Deb (: > Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , shrikant phule <shrikantphule@ ...> wrote: >> >> Truth is beyond debate, >> >> It is experienced not debated. >> > See the Web & #39;s breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Check out Buzz. http://in.buzz./ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 30, 2009 hi debs and Shrikant, shrikant what you say about ulitmate truth is what i find to be true. in the realm of the father , there is no debate, there is " nothing " and nothing to debate, as it is pure experience. When we are pure experience,we feel nothing and are nothing. now it is not somewhere out there, we can walk in our own skins as this nothingness. Everything out there is inside. we travel through all of our dual aspected selves be it wolves , muslim ali, peacock angels , snakes, watching the football ,digging the garden, or cooking the food. This is the realm of the mother,even heaven, when described as a paradise where all our wants are filled is a beautiful illusion of the mother. she travels us through her tunnel , some of us see it as a v@gina , some of us as circling obouous snakes, some see the rose that is pulsating with life , and that tunnel eventually delivers us at the father. our mother cannot enter the fathers realm only we can, if we choose, and i think this is the free will that we are allowed to exercise. do we stay , or do we go? love ya purple.. , " flowerpowers7777 " <flowerpowers7777 wrote: > > Hi Shrikant, > > This is true - the only way to really know is experience. And many times we are drawn to the writings, art, music ect that inspires us to those experiences. But ultimately it is our own experience of the divine that brings us to these realizations. > > I find it beautiful how this divinity comes through for people - whether you see deities from that religion you believe in many times and sometimes in other ways - by seeing other symbols of other beliefs...it comes from the same place and is beautiful in the many ways it comes for people. Sometimes when we see it come as something other than our preconceived notions it gets even more interesting opening us up to all others. I for one would never have imagined divinity coming to me in snakes, spiders, wolves, tigers, eyes, lights and many other experiences of energy vibrations ... all that was not in my upbringing. Would have gone much smoother for me if I understood then that it was all divinity - all I needed to do was keep love in my heart and surrender completely and fully. > Ahhhh....well some of us learn the hard way too! (: haha > > Thank you for your words and much love to you our dear Shrikant! > Deb (: > > , shrikant phule <shrikantphule@> wrote: > > > > Truth is beyond debate, > > > > It is experienced not debated. > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 30, 2009 thats the truth! heehee x x x Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 30, 2009 Beautiful Purple, thank you! You think we don't retain our consciousness then when we merge? Am I misinterpreting? I think I'm remembering a past post and have been meaning to ask you again about your experience. See I thought we retained our consciousness yet also were able to become all or something like that?? Well thats what I thought...????? But for the record here - I know nothing! (:(: When we are no thing we still ARE...(meekishly arn't we?) could this experience have been a lesson in surrender, I mean I don't know I am just throwing out random thoughts here ... I've become other objects - even the chair ect - but always even when I was the chair or whatever I still retained my consciousness...although this is not the void - but even in the void - so I am just pondering here.... All things are possible ... (: I think too of Rama Maharshi - when he became self-realized - I thought I remember reading that he realized he still WAS - even with death - he still WAS? I admit I haven't read all the books and writings on much of any one person - but for some reason that part stuck with me...perhaps I am coloring it through my ego filters! I suppose it doesn't matter - It is what it is - But just for the record my ego over here is screaming out that it wants to know! hahaha Much love to you!!!! Debs (: PS - Again I am not getting all these ponderings from this post alone so don't mind me if I make no sense - I am like a random generator some times...(: , " purple_firefly111 " <purple_firefly111 wrote: > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 30, 2009 I feel that we retain our consciousness when we merge.Therefore I had written to Debs following. This is That, That is This. This is not That That is not This Second part indicates the body,First part is K power,or Truth................shrikant, --- On Mon, 31/8/09, flowerpowers7777 <flowerpowers7777 wrote: flowerpowers7777 <flowerpowers7777 Re: TRUTH Monday, 31 August, 2009, 3:46 AM Beautiful Purple, thank you! You think we don't retain our consciousness then when we merge? Am I misinterpreting? I think I'm remembering a past post and have been meaning to ask you again about your experience. See I thought we retained our consciousness yet also were able to become all or something like that?? Well thats what I thought...?? ??? But for the record here - I know nothing! (:(: When we are no thing we still ARE...(meekishly arn't we?) could this experience have been a lesson in surrender, I mean I don't know I am just throwing out random thoughts here ... I've become other objects - even the chair ect - but always even when I was the chair or whatever I still retained my consciousness. ..although this is not the void - but even in the void - so I am just pondering here.... All things are possible ... (: I think too of Rama Maharshi - when he became self-realized - I thought I remember reading that he realized he still WAS - even with death - he still WAS? I admit I haven't read all the books and writings on much of any one person - but for some reason that part stuck with me...perhaps I am coloring it through my ego filters! I suppose it doesn't matter - It is what it is - But just for the record my ego over here is screaming out that it wants to know! hahaha Much love to you!!!! Debs (: PS - Again I am not getting all these ponderings from this post alone so don't mind me if I make no sense - I am like a random generator some times...(: Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , " purple_firefly111 " <purple_firefly111@ ...> wrote: > > See the Web & #39;s breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Check out Buzz. http://in.buzz./ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 31, 2009 I believe there are different stages, at times you will merge and feel nothingness and once you have been able to surrender that deeply you come out somewhere else still intact.There really would not be much point to life if it was just to become nothing.Thats the way i see it with my puny human mind! love elektra x x x --You think we don't retain our consciousness then when we merge? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 31, 2009 I went in for a look, to me this is not the void, the void i the mother, she is a dark sea, unmanifested energy. In the void i can create or manifest or be whatever i want. I can move void energy in full conciousness. the " nothingness " or pure consciousness, i move through the tunnel and im showered in gold light then it mixed with white light, everything falls away without effort, memories everything, but what is? i still have my consiousness , it is now only a witness nothing more, but this is my level of surrender , i feel there is more to surrender before i will merge fully.. I can pull this back with me and live it if i choose. from this way of life i have no desire as im satisfied as im everything.( to write this i have split myself, )To be nothing is extremely satisfying,there is no need as you are whatever the relm of the father is.. love ya purple , " flowerpowers7777 " <flowerpowers7777 wrote: > > Beautiful Purple, thank you! > > You think we don't retain our consciousness then when we merge? Am I misinterpreting? I think I'm remembering a past post and have been meaning to ask you again about your experience. See I thought we retained our consciousness yet also were able to become all or something like that?? > > Well thats what I thought...????? But for the record here - I know nothing! (:(: When we are no thing we still ARE...(meekishly arn't we?) could this experience have been a lesson in surrender, I mean I don't know I am just throwing out random thoughts here ... I've become other objects - even the chair ect - but always even when I was the chair or whatever I still retained my consciousness...although this is not the void - but even in the void - so I am just pondering here.... > > All things are possible ... (: > > I think too of Rama Maharshi - when he became self-realized - I thought I remember reading that he realized he still WAS - even with death - he still WAS? I admit I haven't read all the books and writings on much of any one person - but for some reason that part stuck with me...perhaps I am coloring it through my ego filters! > > I suppose it doesn't matter - It is what it is - > > But just for the record my ego over here is screaming out that it wants to know! hahaha > > Much love to you!!!! > > Debs (: > > PS - Again I am not getting all these ponderings from this post alone so don't mind me if I make no sense - I am like a random generator some times...(: > > , " purple_firefly111 " <purple_firefly111@> wrote: > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 31, 2009 I was reading somewhere that the next step in evolution of humans will be the experiencing stage.Right now we are in the knowing stage. Example: we intellectually know that " we " are part of everything else. We came from animals, that came from smaller animals, that came from amphibians, that came from amoeba.... ... ... that came from this rock dust. etc etc), but imagine if we could feel that we are part of the animals, the smaller animals, the amphibians, the amoeba, the rock dust, the universe!. On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 10:09 PM, shrikant phule <shrikantphulewrote: > > > Truth is beyond debate, > > It is experienced not debated. > > Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video highlights and more. > Click here http://cricket. > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 31, 2009 JINN wrote..., but imagine if we could feel that we are part of the animals, the smaller animals, the amphibians, the amoeba, the rock dust, the universe!. This is nothingness! in nothingness you can choose which ever form you wish just by your intention, you feel your atoms merge as the others atoms. all time is a creation of the ego , whatever you want to experience can happen now, the change is not in the future ,the future and the linear aspect of time is an illusion. it happens in this very breath... purple.. , JiNN <jinnproduction wrote: > > I was reading somewhere that the next step in evolution of humans will be > the experiencing stage.Right now we are in the knowing stage. Example: we > intellectually know that " we " are part of everything else. We came from > animals, that > came from smaller animals, that came from amphibians, that came from > amoeba.... ... ... that came from this rock dust. etc etc), but imagine > if we could feel that we are part of the animals, the smaller animals, the > amphibians, the amoeba, the rock > dust, the universe!. > > On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 10:09 PM, shrikant phule > <shrikantphulewrote: > > > > > > > Truth is beyond debate, > > > > It is experienced not debated. > > > > Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video highlights and more. > > Click here http://cricket. > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 31, 2009 Hi purple! >>the future and the linear aspect of time is an illusion. I agree, but how come most people dont feel it at this moment? Mike On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 10:12 AM, purple_firefly111 < purple_firefly111 wrote: > > > JINN wrote..., but imagine > > if we could feel that we are part of the animals, the smaller animals, the > amphibians, the amoeba, the rock > dust, the universe!. > This is nothingness! in nothingness you can choose which ever form you wish > just by your intention, you feel your atoms merge as the others atoms. > > all time is a creation of the ego , whatever you want to experience can > happen now, the change is not in the future ,the future and the linear > aspect of time is an illusion. > > it happens in this very breath... > > purple.. > > --- In <%40ya\ hoogroups.com>, > JiNN <jinnproduction wrote: > > > > I was reading somewhere that the next step in evolution of humans will be > > the experiencing stage.Right now we are in the knowing stage. Example: we > > intellectually know that " we " are part of everything else. We came from > > animals, that > > came from smaller animals, that came from amphibians, that came from > > amoeba.... ... ... that came from this rock dust. etc etc), but imagine > > if we could feel that we are part of the animals, the smaller animals, > the > > amphibians, the amoeba, the rock > > dust, the universe!. > > > > On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 10:09 PM, shrikant phule > > <shrikantphulewrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Truth is beyond debate, > > > > > > It is experienced not debated. > > > > > > Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video highlights and more. > > > Click here http://cricket. > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 31, 2009 As i relate it, through my own perspective , in vision i saw the world in a spiral , the spirals were rainbows of consciousness, going ever upward, indvidually we experience it, then a group, then as a country , then as the world. A bit like how a trend seemingly comes out of no-where.They call it the zeigist. The zeigist really is the point when the collective consciousnessness of all of the people agrees , yes , this is our collective reality .The ego agrees this is our time and this is our space. If we take our egoic collective zeigist of our agreed now to a bell curve of people spiritually awakened , we see that most of the people in the west whom really know truth are locked up in the insane asylum or tacking medication. As the bell curve waves , the egoic collective moves , more people have gone through the work to clear their shadow , then collective shadow can lift . In the collective shadow we see what is happening in the news around us , wars , famines, unfairness, and we can see that all of this is perfection and perfect. Why? because this is the alchemy of change blowing into the collective as we had our birthing pains so is the human collective .And as we birthed .. so too will the collective when the bell curve is at its peak... When will this be.. unfortunately collectively we have to go through a great deal more pain before the collective is ready, but as valerie says all is good! purple.. --- On Mon, 31/8/09, JiNN <jinnproduction wrote: JiNN <jinnproduction Re: Re: TRUTH Monday, 31 August, 2009, 7:28 PM Hi purple! >>the future and the linear aspect of time is an illusion. I agree, but how come most people dont feel it at this moment? Mike On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 10:12 AM, purple_firefly111 < purple_firefly111@ .co. uk> wrote: > > > JINN wrote..., but imagine > > if we could feel that we are part of the animals, the smaller animals, the > amphibians, the amoeba, the rock > dust, the universe!. > This is nothingness! in nothingness you can choose which ever form you wish > just by your intention, you feel your atoms merge as the others atoms. > > all time is a creation of the ego , whatever you want to experience can > happen now, the change is not in the future ,the future and the linear > aspect of time is an illusion. > > it happens in this very breath... > > purple.. > > Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 <Kundalini-Awakenin g-Systems- 1%40. com>, > JiNN <jinnproduction@ ...> wrote: > > > > I was reading somewhere that the next step in evolution of humans will be > > the experiencing stage.Right now we are in the knowing stage. Example: we > > intellectually know that " we " are part of everything else. We came from > > animals, that > > came from smaller animals, that came from amphibians, that came from > > amoeba.... ... ... that came from this rock dust. etc etc), but imagine > > if we could feel that we are part of the animals, the smaller animals, > the > > amphibians, the amoeba, the rock > > dust, the universe!. > > > > On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 10:09 PM, shrikant phule > > <shrikantphule@ ...>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Truth is beyond debate, > > > > > > It is experienced not debated. > > > > > > Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video highlights and more. > > > Click here http://cricket. > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 31, 2009 Dear Purple, When You are performing Sayama/concentration on any thing or nothing you become one with that point of concentration ,you become one with the universal consciousnes. At firsr there is light then nothingness.You are not aware of that point.Then no time factor exsists.What do you thinkof this?..........................shrikant --- On Tue, 1/9/09, Melissa Corrieri <purple_firefly111 wrote: Melissa Corrieri <purple_firefly111 Re: Re: TRUTH Tuesday, 1 September, 2009, 1:57 AM As i relate it, through my own perspective , in vision i saw the world in a spiral , the spirals were rainbows of consciousness, going ever upward, indvidually we experience it, then a group, then as a country , then as the world. A bit like how a trend seemingly comes out of no-where.They call it the zeigist. The zeigist really is the point when the collective consciousnessness of all of the people agrees , yes , this is our collective reality .The ego agrees this is our time and this is our space. If we take our egoic collective zeigist of our agreed now to a bell curve of people spiritually awakened , we see that most of the people in the west whom really know truth are locked up in the insane asylum or tacking medication. As the bell curve waves , the egoic collective moves , more people have gone through the work to clear their shadow , then collective shadow can lift . In the collective shadow we see what is happening in the news around us , wars , famines, unfairness, and we can see that all of this is perfection and perfect. Why? because this is the alchemy of change blowing into the collective as we had our birthing pains so is the human collective .And as we birthed .. so too will the collective when the bell curve is at its peak... When will this be.. unfortunately collectively we have to go through a great deal more pain before the collective is ready, but as valerie says all is good! purple.. --- On Mon, 31/8/09, JiNN <jinnproduction@ gmail.com> wrote: JiNN <jinnproduction@ gmail.com> Re: [Kundalini-Awakenin g-Systems- 1] Re: TRUTH Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 Monday, 31 August, 2009, 7:28 PM Hi purple! >>the future and the linear aspect of time is an illusion. I agree, but how come most people dont feel it at this moment? Mike On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 10:12 AM, purple_firefly111 < purple_firefly111@ .co. uk> wrote: > > > JINN wrote..., but imagine > > if we could feel that we are part of the animals, the smaller animals, the > amphibians, the amoeba, the rock > dust, the universe!. > This is nothingness! in nothingness you can choose which ever form you wish > just by your intention, you feel your atoms merge as the others atoms. > > all time is a creation of the ego , whatever you want to experience can > happen now, the change is not in the future ,the future and the linear > aspect of time is an illusion. > > it happens in this very breath... > > purple.. > > Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 <Kundalini- Awakenin g-Systems- 1%40. com>, > JiNN <jinnproduction@ ...> wrote: > > > > I was reading somewhere that the next step in evolution of humans will be > > the experiencing stage.Right now we are in the knowing stage. Example: we > > intellectually know that " we " are part of everything else. We came from > > animals, that > > came from smaller animals, that came from amphibians, that came from > > amoeba.... ... ... that came from this rock dust. etc etc), but imagine > > if we could feel that we are part of the animals, the smaller animals, > the > > amphibians, the amoeba, the rock > > dust, the universe!. > > > > On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 10:09 PM, shrikant phule > > <shrikantphule@ ...>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Truth is beyond debate, > > > > > > It is experienced not debated. > > > > > > Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video highlights and more. > > > Click here http://cricket. > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 1, 2009 Thank you all for all the great posts on this...gives me much to ponder - really appreciate it! Debs (: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 1, 2009 Hehe! Deb, we posted at the exact same time. Love Linda , " flowerpowers7777 " <flowerpowers7777 wrote: > > Thank you all for all the great posts on this...gives me much to ponder - really appreciate it! > > Debs (: > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 1, 2009 Hi ya Cartwheels... Seems we are IN THE ZONE... (: Nice to be in the zone with you wheels! (: Love to you too, Debs (: , " danceswithcats999 " <crazycats711 wrote: > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 1, 2009 dear shrikant, When the ego falls away we disappear only a witness remains... the normal sense of self as a separate, isolated entity amazingly fades out. the mind grows silent in life and at the point of merger.During merger there is no thought, and no effort not to think or think it happens automatically, fluidly you simply allow it to be. Thinking in life takes on a new process , it becomes like a tool you choose to pick up and use or not. when you use your mind through choice ,you feel the words arrive as a flow of consciousness from the universe . any movement in the internal mind is perceived as a minor ripple that does not affect the clarity. as a result, the endless projections of identity, form, and enforced relationships between aspects of reality disappear. instead, there is only a unified whhole, which includes us. we, like that wholeness are formless, fluid. in this sense, we are spaciousness in an even vaster spaciousness. this is how we disappear into emptiness. so, the disguises... being formless, we still participate in the realm of form, because that is all the realm of form understands. rather than a trap or a fixed identity, it becomes a game. you *pretend* to be someone, so other someones can relate to you. you wear masks that suit the situation, and then change them as the situation changes. yet none of them are " you " and you know this. being formless, you can assume any form. you have a thousand new faces. purple.. , shrikant phule <shrikantphule wrote: > > Dear Purple, > When You are performing Sayama/concentration on any thing or nothing you become one with that point of concentration ,you become one with the universal consciousnes. At firsr there is light then nothingness.You are not aware of that point.Then no time factor exsists.What do you thinkof this?..........................shrikant > > --- On Tue, 1/9/09, Melissa Corrieri <purple_firefly111 wrote: > > > Melissa Corrieri <purple_firefly111 > Re: Re: TRUTH > > Tuesday, 1 September, 2009, 1:57 AM > > > > > > > As i relate it, through my own perspective , > in vision i saw the world in a spiral , the spirals were rainbows of consciousness, going ever upward, indvidually we experience it, then a group, then as a country , then as the world. A bit like how a trend seemingly comes out of no-where.They call it the zeigist. The zeigist really is the point when the collective consciousnessness of all of the people agrees , yes , this is our collective reality .The ego agrees this is our time and this is our space. > > If we take our egoic collective zeigist of our agreed now to a bell curve of people spiritually awakened , we see that most of the people in the west whom really know truth are locked up in the insane asylum or tacking medication. > > As the bell curve waves , the egoic collective moves , more people have gone through the work to clear their shadow , then collective shadow can lift . > > In the collective shadow we see what is happening in the news around us , wars , famines, unfairness, and we can see that all of this is perfection and perfect. Why? because this is the alchemy of change blowing into the collective as we had our birthing pains so is the human collective .And as we birthed .. so too will the collective when the bell curve is at its peak... > > When will this be.. unfortunately collectively we have to go through a great deal more pain before the collective is ready, but as valerie says all is good! > > purple.. > > --- On Mon, 31/8/09, JiNN <jinnproduction@ gmail.com> wrote: > > JiNN <jinnproduction@ gmail.com> > Re: [Kundalini-Awakenin g-Systems- 1] Re: TRUTH > Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 > Monday, 31 August, 2009, 7:28 PM > > > > Hi purple! > > >>the future and the linear aspect of time is an illusion. > > I agree, but how come most people dont feel it at this moment? > > Mike > > On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 10:12 AM, purple_firefly111 < > > purple_firefly111@ .co. uk> wrote: > > > > > > > > > JINN wrote..., but imagine > > > > > > if we could feel that we are part of the animals, the smaller animals, the > > > amphibians, the amoeba, the rock > > > dust, the universe!. > > > This is nothingness! in nothingness you can choose which ever form you wish > > > just by your intention, you feel your atoms merge as the others atoms. > > > > > > all time is a creation of the ego , whatever you want to experience can > > > happen now, the change is not in the future ,the future and the linear > > > aspect of time is an illusion. > > > > > > it happens in this very breath... > > > > > > purple.. > > > > > > Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 <Kundalini- Awakenin g-Systems- 1%40. com>, > > > JiNN <jinnproduction@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > I was reading somewhere that the next step in evolution of humans will be > > > > the experiencing stage.Right now we are in the knowing stage. Example: we > > > > intellectually know that " we " are part of everything else. We came from > > > > animals, that > > > > came from smaller animals, that came from amphibians, that came from > > > > amoeba.... ... ... that came from this rock dust. etc etc), but imagine > > > > if we could feel that we are part of the animals, the smaller animals, > > > the > > > > amphibians, the amoeba, the rock > > > > dust, the universe!. > > > > > > > > On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 10:09 PM, shrikant phule > > > > <shrikantphule@ ...>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Truth is beyond debate, > > > > > > > > > > It is experienced not debated. > > > > > > > > > > Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video highlights and more. > > > > > Click here http://cricket. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 1, 2009 Dear purple, Does mind has choice of it's own? Is there any ultimate TRUTH ? Or it is only a stage,because perceiving Truth is lifting only one veil.As occult science believes,'veil upon veil shall lift,but still veil upon veil will be found behind' What is your opinion?.........................shrikant --- On Tue, 1/9/09, purple_firefly111 <purple_firefly111 wrote: purple_firefly111 <purple_firefly111 Re: TRUTH Tuesday, 1 September, 2009, 1:40 PM dear shrikant, When the ego falls away we disappear only a witness remains... the normal sense of self as a separate, isolated entity amazingly fades out. the mind grows silent in life and at the point of merger.During merger there is no thought, and no effort not to think or think it happens automatically, fluidly you simply allow it to be. Thinking in life takes on a new process , it becomes like a tool you choose to pick up and use or not. when you use your mind through choice ,you feel the words arrive as a flow of consciousness from the universe . any movement in the internal mind is perceived as a minor ripple that does not affect the clarity. as a result, the endless projections of identity, form, and enforced relationships between aspects of reality disappear. instead, there is only a unified whhole, which includes us. we, like that wholeness are formless, fluid. in this sense, we are spaciousness in an even vaster spaciousness. this is how we disappear into emptiness. so, the disguises... being formless, we still participate in the realm of form, because that is all the realm of form understands. rather than a trap or a fixed identity, it becomes a game. you *pretend* to be someone, so other someones can relate to you. you wear masks that suit the situation, and then change them as the situation changes. yet none of them are " you " and you know this. being formless, you can assume any form. you have a thousand new faces. purple.. Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , shrikant phule <shrikantphule@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Purple, > When You are performing Sayama/concentratio n on any thing or nothing you become one with that point of concentration ,you become one with the universal consciousnes. At firsr there is light then nothingness. You are not aware of that point.Then no time factor exsists.What do you thinkof this?....... .......... ......... .shrikant > > --- On Tue, 1/9/09, Melissa Corrieri <purple_firefly111@ ...> wrote: > > > Melissa Corrieri <purple_firefly111@ ...> > Re: [Kundalini-Awakenin g-Systems- 1] Re: TRUTH > Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 > Tuesday, 1 September, 2009, 1:57 AM > > > > > > > As i relate it, through my own perspective , > in vision i saw the world in a spiral , the spirals were rainbows of consciousness, going ever upward, indvidually we experience it, then a group, then as a country , then as the world. A bit like how a trend seemingly comes out of no-where.They call it the zeigist. The zeigist really is the point when the collective consciousnessness of all of the people agrees , yes , this is our collective reality .The ego agrees this is our time and this is our space. > > If we take our egoic collective zeigist of our agreed now to a bell curve of people spiritually awakened , we see that most of the people in the west whom really know truth are locked up in the insane asylum or tacking medication. > > As the bell curve waves , the egoic collective moves , more people have gone through the work to clear their shadow , then collective shadow can lift . > > In the collective shadow we see what is happening in the news around us , wars , famines, unfairness, and we can see that all of this is perfection and perfect. Why? because this is the alchemy of change blowing into the collective as we had our birthing pains so is the human collective .And as we birthed .. so too will the collective when the bell curve is at its peak... > > When will this be.. unfortunately collectively we have to go through a great deal more pain before the collective is ready, but as valerie says all is good! > > purple.. > > --- On Mon, 31/8/09, JiNN <jinnproduction@ gmail.com> wrote: > > JiNN <jinnproduction@ gmail.com> > Re: [Kundalini-Awakenin g-Systems- 1] Re: TRUTH > Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 > Monday, 31 August, 2009, 7:28 PM > > > > Hi purple! > > >>the future and the linear aspect of time is an illusion. > > I agree, but how come most people dont feel it at this moment? > > Mike > > On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 10:12 AM, purple_firefly111 < > > purple_firefly111@ .co. uk> wrote: > > > > > > > > > JINN wrote..., but imagine > > > > > > if we could feel that we are part of the animals, the smaller animals, the > > > amphibians, the amoeba, the rock > > > dust, the universe!. > > > This is nothingness! in nothingness you can choose which ever form you wish > > > just by your intention, you feel your atoms merge as the others atoms. > > > > > > all time is a creation of the ego , whatever you want to experience can > > > happen now, the change is not in the future ,the future and the linear > > > aspect of time is an illusion. > > > > > > it happens in this very breath... > > > > > > purple.. > > > > > > Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 <Kundalini- Awakenin g-Systems- 1%40. com>, > > > JiNN <jinnproduction@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > I was reading somewhere that the next step in evolution of humans will be > > > > the experiencing stage.Right now we are in the knowing stage. Example: we > > > > intellectually know that " we " are part of everything else. We came from > > > > animals, that > > > > came from smaller animals, that came from amphibians, that came from > > > > amoeba.... ... ... that came from this rock dust. etc etc), but imagine > > > > if we could feel that we are part of the animals, the smaller animals, > > > the > > > > amphibians, the amoeba, the rock > > > > dust, the universe!. > > > > > > > > On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 10:09 PM, shrikant phule > > > > <shrikantphule@ ...>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Truth is beyond debate, > > > > > > > > > > It is experienced not debated. > > > > > > > > > > Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video highlights and more. > > > > > Click here http://cricket. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 1, 2009 Dear purple, Bondage and liberation are created by maya(illusion) and they do not exsist in the soul.Supreme truth which,like space is indivisible,actionless,calm,blameles,stainless and without a second? There is neither restraint,nor birth nor bondage nor an adept(to aid the disciple),nor one desirous of liberation,nor one liberated--this is the highest truth.(vivek choodamani) Once an intelligent person asked me if bondage and liberation are stages,what is use of getting liberation?I felt what he states is right , I informed an old person about this.He answered me ; some creatures live in gutters some in decent homes.Tell that fellow like being in bondage/liberation is like living in gutter or decent home.......shrikant --- On Tue, 1/9/09, purple_firefly111 <purple_firefly111 wrote: purple_firefly111 <purple_firefly111 Re: TRUTH Tuesday, 1 September, 2009, 3:06 PM dear shrikant at my point of surrender, i find the statement you wrote to be absolutely true. we lift a veil and we feel its freedom , and we live there until we ourselves abandon it as we discover it's illusion. veil upon veil with no end. but that also is the beauty of it. purple.. Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , shrikant phule <shrikantphule@ ...> wrote: > > > Dear purple, > Does mind has choice of it's own? > Is there any ultimate TRUTH ? Or it is only a stage,because perceiving Truth is lifting only one veil.As occult science believes,'veil upon veil shall lift,but still veil upon veil will be found behind' > What is your opinion?.... ......... ......... ...shrikant > > > --- On Tue, 1/9/09, purple_firefly111 <purple_firefly111@ ...> wrote: > > > purple_firefly111 <purple_firefly111@ ...> > [Kundalini-Awakenin g-Systems- 1] Re: TRUTH > Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 > Tuesday, 1 September, 2009, 1:40 PM > > > > > > > dear shrikant, > > When the ego falls away we disappear only a witness remains... the normal sense of self as a separate, isolated entity amazingly fades out. the mind grows silent in life and at the point of merger.During merger there is no thought, and no effort not to think or think it happens automatically, fluidly you simply allow it to be. > > Thinking in life takes on a new process , it becomes like a tool you choose to pick up and use or not. when you use your mind through choice ,you feel the words arrive as a flow of consciousness from the universe . any movement in the internal mind > is perceived as a minor ripple that does not affect the clarity. as a result, the endless > projections of identity, form, and enforced relationships between aspects of reality disappear. > instead, there is only a unified whhole, which includes us. we, like that wholeness are formless, fluid. in this sense, we are spaciousness in an even vaster spaciousness. this is how we disappear into emptiness. > > so, the disguises... being formless, we still participate in the realm of form, because that is all the realm of form understands. rather than a trap or a fixed identity, it becomes a game. > you *pretend* to be someone, so other someones can relate to you. you wear masks that suit the situation, and then change them as the situation changes. yet none of them are " you " and you know > this. being formless, you can assume any form. you have a thousand new faces. > > purple.. > > Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , shrikant phule <shrikantphule@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Purple, > > When You are performing Sayama/concentratio n on any thing or nothing you become one with that point of concentration ,you become one with the universal consciousnes. At firsr there is light then nothingness. You are not aware of that point.Then no time factor exsists.What do you thinkof this?....... .......... ......... .shrikant > > > > --- On Tue, 1/9/09, Melissa Corrieri <purple_firefly111@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Melissa Corrieri <purple_firefly111@ ...> > > Re: [Kundalini-Awakenin g-Systems- 1] Re: TRUTH > > Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 > > Tuesday, 1 September, 2009, 1:57 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As i relate it, through my own perspective , > > in vision i saw the world in a spiral , the spirals were rainbows of consciousness, going ever upward, indvidually we experience it, then a group, then as a country , then as the world. A bit like how a trend seemingly comes out of no-where.They call it the zeigist. The zeigist really is the point when the collective consciousnessness of all of the people agrees , yes , this is our collective reality .The ego agrees this is our time and this is our space. > > > > If we take our egoic collective zeigist of our agreed now to a bell curve of people spiritually awakened , we see that most of the people in the west whom really know truth are locked up in the insane asylum or tacking medication. > > > > As the bell curve waves , the egoic collective moves , more people have gone through the work to clear their shadow , then collective shadow can lift . > > > > In the collective shadow we see what is happening in the news around us , wars , famines, unfairness, and we can see that all of this is perfection and perfect. Why? because this is the alchemy of change blowing into the collective as we had our birthing pains so is the human collective .And as we birthed .. so too will the collective when the bell curve is at its peak... > > > > When will this be.. unfortunately collectively we have to go through a great deal more pain before the collective is ready, but as valerie says all is good! > > > > purple.. > > > > --- On Mon, 31/8/09, JiNN <jinnproduction@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > JiNN <jinnproduction@ gmail.com> > > Re: [Kundalini-Awakenin g-Systems- 1] Re: TRUTH > > Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 > > Monday, 31 August, 2009, 7:28 PM > > > > > > > > Hi purple! > > > > >>the future and the linear aspect of time is an illusion. > > > > I agree, but how come most people dont feel it at this moment? > > > > Mike > > > > On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 10:12 AM, purple_firefly111 < > > > > purple_firefly111@ .co. uk> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > JINN wrote..., but imagine > > > > > > > > > > if we could feel that we are part of the animals, the smaller animals, the > > > > > amphibians, the amoeba, the rock > > > > > dust, the universe!. > > > > > This is nothingness! in nothingness you can choose which ever form you wish > > > > > just by your intention, you feel your atoms merge as the others atoms. > > > > > > > > > > all time is a creation of the ego , whatever you want to experience can > > > > > happen now, the change is not in the future ,the future and the linear > > > > > aspect of time is an illusion. > > > > > > > > > > it happens in this very breath... > > > > > > > > > > purple.. > > > > > > > > > > Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 <Kundalini- Awakenin g-Systems- 1%40. com>, > > > > > JiNN <jinnproduction@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I was reading somewhere that the next step in evolution of humans will be > > > > > > the experiencing stage.Right now we are in the knowing stage. Example: we > > > > > > intellectually know that " we " are part of everything else. We came from > > > > > > animals, that > > > > > > came from smaller animals, that came from amphibians, that came from > > > > > > amoeba.... ... ... that came from this rock dust. etc etc), but imagine > > > > > > if we could feel that we are part of the animals, the smaller animals, > > > > > the > > > > > > amphibians, the amoeba, the rock > > > > > > dust, the universe!. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 10:09 PM, shrikant phule > > > > > > <shrikantphule@ ...>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Truth is beyond debate, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is experienced not debated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video highlights and more. > > > > > > > Click here http://cricket. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 1, 2009 dear shrikant at my point of surrender, i find the statement you wrote to be absolutely true. we lift a veil and we feel its freedom , and we live there until we ourselves abandon it as we discover it's illusion. veil upon veil with no end. but that also is the beauty of it. if i try to abandon all veils...i come again to the point of nothingness. i am a witness with a burning heart. purple.. , shrikant phule <shrikantphule wrote: > > > Dear purple, > Does mind has choice of it's own? > Is there any ultimate TRUTH ? Or it is only a stage,because perceiving Truth is lifting only one veil.As occult science believes,'veil upon veil shall lift,but still veil upon veil will be found behind' > What is your opinion?.........................shrikant > > > --- On Tue, 1/9/09, purple_firefly111 <purple_firefly111 wrote: > > > purple_firefly111 <purple_firefly111 > Re: TRUTH > > Tuesday, 1 September, 2009, 1:40 PM > > > > > > > dear shrikant, > > When the ego falls away we disappear only a witness remains... the normal sense of self as a separate, isolated entity amazingly fades out. the mind grows silent in life and at the point of merger.During merger there is no thought, and no effort not to think or think it happens automatically, fluidly you simply allow it to be. > > Thinking in life takes on a new process , it becomes like a tool you choose to pick up and use or not. when you use your mind through choice ,you feel the words arrive as a flow of consciousness from the universe . any movement in the internal mind > is perceived as a minor ripple that does not affect the clarity. as a result, the endless > projections of identity, form, and enforced relationships between aspects of reality disappear. > instead, there is only a unified whhole, which includes us. we, like that wholeness are formless, fluid. in this sense, we are spaciousness in an even vaster spaciousness. this is how we disappear into emptiness. > > so, the disguises... being formless, we still participate in the realm of form, because that is all the realm of form understands. rather than a trap or a fixed identity, it becomes a game. > you *pretend* to be someone, so other someones can relate to you. you wear masks that suit the situation, and then change them as the situation changes. yet none of them are " you " and you know > this. being formless, you can assume any form. you have a thousand new faces. > > purple.. > > Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , shrikant phule <shrikantphule@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Purple, > > When You are performing Sayama/concentratio n on any thing or nothing you become one with that point of concentration ,you become one with the universal consciousnes. At firsr there is light then nothingness. You are not aware of that point.Then no time factor exsists.What do you thinkof this?....... .......... ......... .shrikant > > > > --- On Tue, 1/9/09, Melissa Corrieri <purple_firefly111@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Melissa Corrieri <purple_firefly111@ ...> > > Re: [Kundalini-Awakenin g-Systems- 1] Re: TRUTH > > Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 > > Tuesday, 1 September, 2009, 1:57 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As i relate it, through my own perspective , > > in vision i saw the world in a spiral , the spirals were rainbows of consciousness, going ever upward, indvidually we experience it, then a group, then as a country , then as the world. A bit like how a trend seemingly comes out of no-where.They call it the zeigist. The zeigist really is the point when the collective consciousnessness of all of the people agrees , yes , this is our collective reality .The ego agrees this is our time and this is our space. > > > > If we take our egoic collective zeigist of our agreed now to a bell curve of people spiritually awakened , we see that most of the people in the west whom really know truth are locked up in the insane asylum or tacking medication. > > > > As the bell curve waves , the egoic collective moves , more people have gone through the work to clear their shadow , then collective shadow can lift . > > > > In the collective shadow we see what is happening in the news around us , wars , famines, unfairness, and we can see that all of this is perfection and perfect. Why? because this is the alchemy of change blowing into the collective as we had our birthing pains so is the human collective .And as we birthed .. so too will the collective when the bell curve is at its peak... > > > > When will this be.. unfortunately collectively we have to go through a great deal more pain before the collective is ready, but as valerie says all is good! > > > > purple.. > > > > --- On Mon, 31/8/09, JiNN <jinnproduction@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > JiNN <jinnproduction@ gmail.com> > > Re: [Kundalini-Awakenin g-Systems- 1] Re: TRUTH > > Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 > > Monday, 31 August, 2009, 7:28 PM > > > > > > > > Hi purple! > > > > >>the future and the linear aspect of time is an illusion. > > > > I agree, but how come most people dont feel it at this moment? > > > > Mike > > > > On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 10:12 AM, purple_firefly111 < > > > > purple_firefly111@ .co. uk> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > JINN wrote..., but imagine > > > > > > > > > > if we could feel that we are part of the animals, the smaller animals, the > > > > > amphibians, the amoeba, the rock > > > > > dust, the universe!. > > > > > This is nothingness! in nothingness you can choose which ever form you wish > > > > > just by your intention, you feel your atoms merge as the others atoms. > > > > > > > > > > all time is a creation of the ego , whatever you want to experience can > > > > > happen now, the change is not in the future ,the future and the linear > > > > > aspect of time is an illusion. > > > > > > > > > > it happens in this very breath... > > > > > > > > > > purple.. > > > > > > > > > > Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 <Kundalini- Awakenin g-Systems- 1%40. com>, > > > > > JiNN <jinnproduction@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I was reading somewhere that the next step in evolution of humans will be > > > > > > the experiencing stage.Right now we are in the knowing stage. Example: we > > > > > > intellectually know that " we " are part of everything else. We came from > > > > > > animals, that > > > > > > came from smaller animals, that came from amphibians, that came from > > > > > > amoeba.... ... ... that came from this rock dust. etc etc), but imagine > > > > > > if we could feel that we are part of the animals, the smaller animals, > > > > > the > > > > > > amphibians, the amoeba, the rock > > > > > > dust, the universe!. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 10:09 PM, shrikant phule > > > > > > <shrikantphule@ ...>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Truth is beyond debate, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is experienced not debated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video highlights and more. > > > > > > > Click here http://cricket. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 1, 2009 Dear Purple, dear Shrikant, This is so good i am learning a lot from this..actually i am experiencing this lifting of veils..and its true, after one veil we move on and find another to lift..just last night i thought i had forgiven everyone i need to forgive next i had an argument with my mom, then its as if a dam burst and all my resentments & past hurts surfaced, i realized i havent forgiven my mom yet. after i meditated and offered my forgiveness and kissed my mom and said im sorry, a lightness and feelings of love unfolds within me..a veil has lifted once again. blessings & lots of love, edgar ________________________________ purple_firefly111 <purple_firefly111 Tuesday, September 1, 2009 2:36:26 AM Re: TRUTH dear shrikant at my point of surrender, i find the statement you wrote to be absolutely true. we lift a veil and we feel its freedom , and we live there until we ourselves abandon it as we discover it's illusion. veil upon veil with no end. but that also is the beauty of it. purple.. Recent Activity * 2 New Members * 14 New Photos * 1 New LinksVisit Your Group Give Back for Good Get inspired by a good cause. Y! Toolbar Get it Free! easy 1-click access to your groups. Start a group in 3 easy steps. Connect with others. .. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 1, 2009 Could this just be another veil of illusion you have experienced seeing that the mother as not being able to enter the realm of the father? I have thought of the mother and father, as one being and not separate. Did you know the gematria number for " Mother Nature " and the Hebrew name for Father God " YHWH " is the same number! Is that a coincidence! I love changing letters to their number equivalent. You can come up with some very fascinating stuff. I did a little experiment with a friend once who liked playing the lottery. He ask me if I would help him pick the numbers. I would set and meditate for a number for him and instead of a number I would be given a vision of an image of something instead. I would take the name of the image and reduce it to it's one digit number. I would get him three numbers every day and those number would come up just about every time for that day, but not in order of what they were given me. He would win something just about everyday. I was a fun thing to do. Linda , " purple_firefly111 " <purple_firefly111 wrote: , and that tunnel eventually delivers us at the father. our mother cannot enter the fathers realm only we can, if we choose, and i think this is the > free will that we are allowed to exercise. > > > do we stay , or do we go? > > love ya purple.. > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 2, 2009 sorry dear shrikant, you got my deleted version , i wrote another after it as i thought it was only half an answer, here is the missing part.. ....**if i try to abandon all veils...i come again to the point of nothingness. i am a witness with a burning heart. purple..** today's comment below.. again shrikant i find your statement to be true, yesterday i was offered a magical blue dragon , and to join a long line of powerful sorcerers. They told me that quickly i would have comand of jinn, spirits , seraphim , the list goes on.. but i gleefully refused, i could see it as maya. with this feeling i have no needs.i feel satisfied and have no more need to search. I can feel the universe in me, and me in the universe and that's more that enough thankyou shrikant, you helped me understand deeper. purple , shrikant phule <shrikantphule wrote: > > > Dear purple, > Bondage and liberation are created by maya(illusion) and they do not exsist in the soul.Supreme truth which,like space is indivisible,actionless,calm,blameles,stainless and without a second? > There is neither restraint,nor birth nor bondage nor an adept(to aid the disciple),nor one desirous of liberation,nor one liberated--this is the highest truth.(vivek choodamani) > Once an intelligent person asked me if bondage and liberation are stages,what is use of getting liberation?I felt what he states is right , I informed an old person about this.He answered me ; some creatures live in gutters some in decent homes.Tell that fellow like being in bondage/liberation is like living in gutter or decent home.......shrikant > > --- On Tue, 1/9/09, purple_firefly111 <purple_firefly111 wrote: > > > purple_firefly111 <purple_firefly111 > Re: TRUTH > > Tuesday, 1 September, 2009, 3:06 PM > > > > > > > > dear shrikant > at my point of surrender, i find the statement you wrote to be absolutely true. we lift a veil and we feel its freedom , and we live there until we ourselves abandon it as we discover it's illusion. > > veil upon veil with no end. but that also is the beauty of it. > > purple.. > > Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , shrikant phule <shrikantphule@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear purple, > > Does mind has choice of it's own? > > Is there any ultimate TRUTH ? Or it is only a stage,because perceiving Truth is lifting only one veil.As occult science believes,'veil upon veil shall lift,but still veil upon veil will be found behind' > > What is your opinion?.... ......... ......... ...shrikant > > > > > > --- On Tue, 1/9/09, purple_firefly111 <purple_firefly111@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > purple_firefly111 <purple_firefly111@ ...> > > [Kundalini-Awakenin g-Systems- 1] Re: TRUTH > > Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 > > Tuesday, 1 September, 2009, 1:40 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear shrikant, > > > > When the ego falls away we disappear only a witness remains... the normal sense of self as a separate, isolated entity amazingly fades out. the mind grows silent in life and at the point of merger.During merger there is no thought, and no effort not to think or think it happens automatically, fluidly you simply allow it to be. > > > > Thinking in life takes on a new process , it becomes like a tool you choose to pick up and use or not. when you use your mind through choice ,you feel the words arrive as a flow of consciousness from the universe . any movement in the internal mind > > is perceived as a minor ripple that does not affect the clarity. as a result, the endless > > projections of identity, form, and enforced relationships between aspects of reality disappear. > > instead, there is only a unified whhole, which includes us. we, like that wholeness are formless, fluid. in this sense, we are spaciousness in an even vaster spaciousness. this is how we disappear into emptiness. > > > > so, the disguises... being formless, we still participate in the realm of form, because that is all the realm of form understands. rather than a trap or a fixed identity, it becomes a game. > > you *pretend* to be someone, so other someones can relate to you. you wear masks that suit the situation, and then change them as the situation changes. yet none of them are " you " and you know > > this. being formless, you can assume any form. you have a thousand new faces. > > > > purple.. > > > > Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , shrikant phule <shrikantphule@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Purple, > > > When You are performing Sayama/concentratio n on any thing or nothing you become one with that point of concentration ,you become one with the universal consciousnes. At firsr there is light then nothingness. You are not aware of that point.Then no time factor exsists.What do you thinkof this?....... .......... ......... .shrikant > > > > > > --- On Tue, 1/9/09, Melissa Corrieri <purple_firefly111@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Melissa Corrieri <purple_firefly111@ ...> > > > Re: [Kundalini-Awakenin g-Systems- 1] Re: TRUTH > > > Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 > > > Tuesday, 1 September, 2009, 1:57 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As i relate it, through my own perspective , > > > in vision i saw the world in a spiral , the spirals were rainbows of consciousness, going ever upward, indvidually we experience it, then a group, then as a country , then as the world. A bit like how a trend seemingly comes out of no-where.They call it the zeigist. The zeigist really is the point when the collective consciousnessness of all of the people agrees , yes , this is our collective reality .The ego agrees this is our time and this is our space. > > > > > > If we take our egoic collective zeigist of our agreed now to a bell curve of people spiritually awakened , we see that most of the people in the west whom really know truth are locked up in the insane asylum or tacking medication. > > > > > > As the bell curve waves , the egoic collective moves , more people have gone through the work to clear their shadow , then collective shadow can lift . > > > > > > In the collective shadow we see what is happening in the news around us , wars , famines, unfairness, and we can see that all of this is perfection and perfect. Why? because this is the alchemy of change blowing into the collective as we had our birthing pains so is the human collective .And as we birthed .. so too will the collective when the bell curve is at its peak... > > > > > > When will this be.. unfortunately collectively we have to go through a great deal more pain before the collective is ready, but as valerie says all is good! > > > > > > purple.. > > > > > > --- On Mon, 31/8/09, JiNN <jinnproduction@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > JiNN <jinnproduction@ gmail.com> > > > Re: [Kundalini-Awakenin g-Systems- 1] Re: TRUTH > > > Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 > > > Monday, 31 August, 2009, 7:28 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi purple! > > > > > > >>the future and the linear aspect of time is an illusion. > > > > > > I agree, but how come most people dont feel it at this moment? > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 10:12 AM, purple_firefly111 < > > > > > > purple_firefly111@ .co. uk> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > JINN wrote..., but imagine > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if we could feel that we are part of the animals, the smaller animals, the > > > > > > > amphibians, the amoeba, the rock > > > > > > > dust, the universe!. > > > > > > > This is nothingness! in nothingness you can choose which ever form you wish > > > > > > > just by your intention, you feel your atoms merge as the others atoms. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all time is a creation of the ego , whatever you want to experience can > > > > > > > happen now, the change is not in the future ,the future and the linear > > > > > > > aspect of time is an illusion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it happens in this very breath... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > purple.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 <Kundalini- Awakenin g-Systems- 1%40. com>, > > > > > > > JiNN <jinnproduction@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was reading somewhere that the next step in evolution of humans will be > > > > > > > > the experiencing stage.Right now we are in the knowing stage. Example: we > > > > > > > > intellectually know that " we " are part of everything else. We came from > > > > > > > > animals, that > > > > > > > > came from smaller animals, that came from amphibians, that came from > > > > > > > > amoeba.... ... ... that came from this rock dust. etc etc), but imagine > > > > > > > > if we could feel that we are part of the animals, the smaller animals, > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > amphibians, the amoeba, the rock > > > > > > > > dust, the universe!. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 10:09 PM, shrikant phule > > > > > > > > <shrikantphule@ ...>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Truth is beyond debate, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is experienced not debated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love Cricket? 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Guest guest Report post Posted September 2, 2009 wow, so cool, i like the imagery of a blue dragon, i would have asked if i could just go for a quick ride on its back through the universe, and forget the rest!!! hahahathanks purple for sharing your wisdom with us x elektra x x x --. again shrikant i find your statement to be true, yesterday i was offered a magical blue dragon , and to join a long line of powerful sorcerers. They told me that quickly i would have comand of jinn, spirits , seraphim , the list goes on.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
