Guest guest Report post Posted November 12, 2009 Dear Hussein ji, Still I am not clear what you are saying. Just take example. Also re-read what I have said. If 2 planets are in exaltation, means Sa is in libra in 4th house and Mo and Ju are in 7th house then they are in 4:10. Now next step is what type of relation they are making? For Cancer lagna, Ju is 6th lord in 7th house, so we will not add the power, on the contrary, if Ju is with more than 4 bindus and Sa is with less than 4 then this Ju will spoil Sa. Just understand this too. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Hussein Thursday November 12, 2009 4:38 PM To: Subject: Re: Practice Chart Dear Ash ji I told different thing.Please see it again: : When two planets are in a Kendra and are exalted or own the house they are in, they become mutual karakas or significators. In the above sloka, Acharya Vishnugupt says that this happens only with respect to Kendras. One example, (as illustrated in Fig.37) for the Cancer lagna is given, with Saturn in Libra, the Moon and Jupiter in the lagna, Sun and Mars in Aries. In this case, all of them became mutual karakas. Similarly, some authors say that planets that are mutually angular though not necessarily from the ascendant are also mutual significators. For our purposes, when two planets are exalted or own the Kendra house they are in, making them mutual karakas, this is also a phenomenon that we use in this system. Best Wishes Hussein , " Ash's Corner " <kas wrote: > > Dear Hussein ji and NS ji, > > Please read the sentence above that as well. > > “ > (If, in the above case, planet 'A' had less points then 'B', then planet 'A' would behave in a reverse way and might give adverse results if it didn't receive more than 12 points in its final tally, as indicated in the worksheet.)†> > The essence of that write up is that how 4:10 is being advocated by Saravali and others. That said, in our system, we go one step further to classify the same i.e. > > 1) Planet in 10th place if its less than 4 bindus and Planet in 4th house from it is with more than 4 bindus > 2) Planet in 10th place if its with more than 4 bindus and planet in 4th place from it is with less than 4 bindus > 3) Planet in 10th place is with 4 bindus and planet in 4th place from it is with more than 4 bindus > > So, in all the above case there is a very big difference on how the result will be. In the 1st case both planets will give good result as they will become very powerful SD as there is power transfer and in the WS the power will go up for all 12 house for the planet in 10th house that controls the planet in 4th house so in both antras result will be good. > > In second case, there is opposition. Planet in 10th place is with more than 4 bindus so its in House D for the 4th house from it so it will give the event or become eager but the planet in the 4th place will oppose the karaktwa of the planet in 10th place so during the antras very different results will be there. > > In the 3rd case, if the planet in 10th place is LoD or LoE then it will control the planet and will act like case 1 but for the house that it is not LoD or LoE it will not become SD and there will be no power transfer as there will not be any control of planet in 10th place on the planet in 4th place from it. > > Please understand this. > > Now since we are talking about 4:10 then our focus is on case 1 given above as we are studying positive things and trying to give the person who comes to u for getting a reading some hope. But it does not mean that other 2 scenarios are not there. > > Please do not get confused about this and get concept firm in your mind. So in case 1 only they will become mutual karaks means they can replace each other and in KAS terminology they become Samdharmi and that too 2 way means that both can replace each other. But only for case 1 and for case 3 in case the lord in 10th place is LoD or LoE for those house it will become SD with power transfer. But for case 2, it will be reverse effect. Planet in 4th place will oppose planet in 10th place and one will get the result accordingly. > Cheers !!! > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > On Behalf Of Hussein > Thursday November 12, 2009 3:44 PM > > Re: Practice Chart > > > Dear Ash ji > > Anup ji had sent a text which Guru ji had explained SD rules there maybe in a class or worlshop(( 15th Aug 2008 2nd)).Anup ji sent this as a message in the group.I've saved that lessson as word file but don't know the number of message. > > Here is that rule: > > " > Sloka 6: > There is a reference in Saravali regarding two planets in Kendras (angle houses †" 1, 4, 7, 10), becoming mutual significators. We have a similar law in this system also. > > Saravali Chapter 6 sloka - 1, 2 and 3: > > Swarkshatrikonntund astha yadi kendreshu sansthitaI > Anyonyam karakste syu: kendreshvev harermtamII 1II > > Ravitanyo jookstha: kulirlagne bruhaspatihimanshuI > Meshe kujo raviyut: pararsparm karaka ete II2II > > Tungsuhrutkhgruhnas he stitha gruha: karaka: samakhyata:I > Meshurane ch raviriti visheshto vakti chanakya: II 3II > > > MEANING: When two planets are in a Kendra and are exalted or own the house they are in, they become mutual karakas or significators. In the above sloka, Acharya Vishnugupt says that this happens only with respect to Kendras. One example, (as illustrated in Fig.37) for the Cancer lagna is given, with Saturn in Libra, the Moon and Jupiter in the lagna, Sun and Mars in Aries. In this case, all of them became mutual karakas. Similarly, some authors say that planets that are mutually angular though not necessarily from the ascendant are also mutual significators. For our purposes, when two planets are exalted or own the Kendra house they are in, making them mutual karakas, this is also a phenomenon that we use in this system. > > Best Wishes > > Hussein > , " Ash's Corner@ " kas@ wrote: > > > > Dear Hussein ji? > > > > What law is that????? Please explain or show me the mail number so I can read that and understand what context? > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > On Behalf Of Hussein > > Thursday November 12, 2009 2:49 PM > > > > Re: Practice Chart > > > > > > Dear Ash ji > > > > I think another rule which is available for SDs is that :the planets which are in the exaltation sign or > > > > are in their own kendra are SD for each other. > > > > Best Wishes > > > > Hussein > > , " Ash's Corner@ " kas@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bella ji, > > > > > > Just one small correction from my side on my earlier mail. > > > > > > The order or SD will be > > > > > > 1) 4:10 > > > 2) Same Sign & Nak > > > 3) Same Navamsa > > > 4) Navamsa lord > > > 5) Nakshatra lord. > > > > > > NSD if they get a chance they will give, that depends on fixed relationship as per natural chart. So there is no order for the same. Except that if they are in 1:7 then they cease to become NSD’s. > > > > > > The reason for the above order is that if you notice that the last 2 are only one way, means planet comes sd to navamsa lord or nak lord so its one way. Means planet can replace the nav lord or nak lord if they are unable to give the result but not vice versa. > > > When planets are in same navamsa then they are 2 way means both can replace each other. > > > > > > Hence the distinction. > > > > > > Just try to understand the essence of the same. > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > On Behalf Of BPShiv > > > Thursday November 12, 2009 12:48 PM > > > > > > Re: Re: Practice Chart > > > > > > > > >  > > > Dear Devi Singh ji, > > > My answers are in purple. Seniors please correct my errors as this is the very basic portion of KAS that we are strengthening. > > > > > > > > > Please clarify CAPS...this is new to me? > > > > > > " 2.All Planets cojoin in sign NO " > > > By this i mean to say if two planets are in one sign in rashi chart ...for example ju and ma both are in Leo...both become samdharmi to each other....ma has low points so Ma can replace Ju > > > NO. Not in Rasi BUT YES in navamsa. If Ju and Ma are in Leo in Rasi they cannot be SD but if they are in same navamsa then they are SD. > > > In Rasi Ju and Ma have to be in the same sign AND also in the same nakshatra. > > > > > > " 6.Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO " > > > This is case where Ju is in Leo in rashi chart and Ma is in Leo in navamsa.....both are in Leo and become samdharmi > > > No. But according to lesson 25 they could be SD if they both have more points. > > > > > > " 8.Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO " > > > This is case where Ju with 5 point in Tarus and placed in 4th house....so LoD for 7th house is Ve and Ju can give result due to its placement so samdharmi to Ve ....can replace Ve > > > NO. Planet is not SD to sign Lo itself in Rasi. > > > Here in your example if you are talking about 4:10 relationship than if Ju has 5 bindus in 4th place and if Ma is in 10th place with 3 bindus than Ju can be SD to Ma provided it has more bindus. > > > > > > " 9.If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra NO " > > > This is case Ju is with Ra in rashi/navamsa.......and Ra represents Su/St......so Ju samdharmi to Su/St.....I Think this is my mistake we should not consider Ra as it does not have rulership of any sign > > > > > > > > > > > > NO. Ju is not SD to Su. > > > In this case if Ju is with Ra in rasi they are not SD. If they are in Leo that means Ra represents Su. Also we have to see nakshatra Lo that Ra is in. Say Ra is in nakshatra of Ve and from two of them whichever has more bindus Ra will represent like them. If Ve has 5 bindus and Su has 3 bindus than Ra will be more like Ve and less like Su also have to check the points in WS. > > > Now if Ra is with Ju in Sa navamsa than Ra is SD to Ju and SD to Sa. > > > To summarize this ex. Ra REPRESENTS Ve and is SD to Ju and Sa. > > > > > > " Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO " > > > I think this is again not true as per your emails and lessons as well.......rather Mo natural samdharmi to Ma.............Mo can replace Ma. > > > However i have not got root cause/main reason for this .......rather what i think is Mo can not be boss .....Please clarify or provide any means where should i look? > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes. If Ma is in navamsa of Mo than Ma is SD to Mo and Ma can fill in for Mo. > > > Also, please refer to Ash ji's msg # 20953 link. Nice update and more clarifications. > > > > > > Thank you, > > > -Bella. > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > Anup. M <dalh_1@ > > > > > > Thursday, November 12, 2009 8:48 AM > > > Re: Re: Practice Chart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Devi singh ji, > > > > > > > > > Just wait,i hope members over here will try to explain you > > > regarding your confusions. > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 12/11/09, devisigh devisingh.rajput@ wrote: > > > > > > devisigh devisingh.rajput@ > > > Re: Re: Practice Chart > > > > > > Thursday, 12 November, 2009, 7:28 PM > > > > > > Dear Anup ji, > > > > > > It is really wondering for me.....something i guess incorrect in drafting/representa tion by me...let me try one more time in better way..... > > > > > > Please clarify CAPS...this is new to me? > > > > > > " 2.All Planets cojoin in sign NO " > > > By this i mean to say if two planets are in one sign in rashi chart ...for example ju and ma both are in Leo...both become samdharmi to each other....ma has low points so Ma can replace Ju > > > > > > " 6.Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO " > > > This is case where Ju is in Leo in rashi chart and Ma is in Leo in navamsa..... both are in Leo and become samdharmi > > > > > > " 8.Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO " > > > This is case where Ju with 5 point in Tarus and placed in 4th house....so LoD for 7th house is Ve and Ju can give result due to its placement so samdharmi to Ve ....can replace Ve > > > > > > " 9.If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra NO " > > > This is case Ju is with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ......and Ra represents Su/St......so Ju samdharmi to Su/St.....I Think this is my mistake we should not consider Ra as it does not have rulership of any sign > > > > > > " Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO " > > > I think this is again not true as per your emails and lessons as well.......rather Mo natural samdharmi to Ma.......... ...Mo can replace Ma. > > > However i have not got root cause/main reason for this .......rather what i think is Mo can not be boss .....Please clarify or provide any means where should i look? > > > > > > ------------ ------ > > > Regards, > > > Devisingh > > > > > > > > > Anup. M wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Devi singh ji, > > > > > > > > > My understanding is as per CAPS below. > > > > > > Regards > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 11/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> > > > Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > Wednesday, 11 November, 2009, 6:30 PM > > > > > > Dear Anup ji, > > > > > > Thank you ....for corrections on emails.....this will keep me on track and avoiding out of track. > > > > > > If Planets in navamsa have 4:10 relation we should not consider them samdharmi that is input for me. > > > > > > Below is my understanding related to samdharmi what is gathered upto 2000 emails of achieves.... .putting here so may be help full to other members as well please have a look and comment on them where requires...i have arranged them on priority basis please provides your valuable comment for them where required > > > 1. Planets making 4:10 in rashi (offcourse boss and subordinate analogy) YES > > > 2. All Planets cojoin in sign NO > > > 3. Planet is samdharmi to Lord of nakshtra sign YES > > > 4. All Planets in same nakshatra YES > > > 5. All Planets cojoin in navamsa YES > > > 6. Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO > > > 7. Planet is samdharmi to Lord navamsa sign YES > > > 8. Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO > > > 9. If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra NO > > > 10. > > > 11. Ra is samdharmi to sign lord and navamsa lord and planet cojoin in navamsa YES > > > > > > Yes it is my mistake mo,ju,ma are not natural samdharmi as per KAS......Please forgive me i might done it knowingly but not intentionally > > > In kalpurush chart ....looking 4:10 > > > St and Ve are samdharmi to each other....can replace each other > > > Su samdharmi to Ma...Su can replace Ma YES > > > Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO > > > ------------ ------ > > > Regards, > > > Devisingh > > > > > > Anup. M wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Devi singh ji, > > > > > > > > > I think samdharmi concept is not clear somewhere in your mail > > > > > > Pleae note that .. > > > MOON AND JU ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI > > > JU AND MARS ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI. > > > > > > Also we do not consider 4:10 relation in navamsa. > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 10/11/09, devisigh <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=devisingh.rajput@ <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> > > > Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > Tuesday, 10 November, 2009, 6:56 PM > > > > > > Dear All; > > > > > > Some more thoughts to fix antra > > > > > > St full delay but st have moved 15 degree so considering 27.5-1.3=26. 3 year initial value > > > Ju aspects Hb in navamsa but is is in libra with rahu in navamsa and in nakshtra of St so it can not check to saturn so full delay no help from Ju to reduce delay as staus of Ju is not good > > > > > > no zero in SAV so no addition in delay > > > Blessing in navamsa but can not help to reduce delay > > > St is with Ra in rashi so more affilicted add delay > > > Mo aspected by Ra in rashi and St cojoin in navamsa ,As lumanaries are aspected so that will add delay > > > > > > Main dasha lord Mo is OK as karka to give 7th house events > > > > > > Mo-Mo > > > Mo LoD and Natural Samdharmi to Ju can give event > > > > > > But I think this would not be case as some what delay have to be added > > > > > > Mo-Ma > > > Ju and Ma both in cancer one in rasi and another in navamsa makes them samdharmi > > > Ju and Ma both are natural samdharmi > > > Ju and Ma 4:10 in rashi/navamsa > > > Ju LoE and high point So Event can be in 3rd sector of it. > > > > > > > > > Mo-Ra > > > Ra represnts Su/Ve....considerin g more like Ve NK FK.... and cojoin Ju in navamsa so samdahrmi to Ju > > > > > > so Event can be in 3rd sector of it.......seems not wise choice still to me > > > > > > Mo-Ju > > > Ju Can give Event in 3rd Sector on it > > > > > > will come up with more thought as gets educated to this system > > > ------------ ------ > > > Regards, > > > Devisingh > > > > > > devisigh wrote: > > > Dear Ash ji, > > > > > > Namaskar > > > > > > Sincere thanks for your words attitude intension and time. > > > > > > I am trying my all time what i can collect to study this system. > > > I guess this can takes time may be 3year (less points till that time also indicate hardwork and busy for me) Will continue my attempt/doubts hope for comments from moderators for same. > > > I am enjoying achieves thanks to Krushna,sanjay, Donna,Peter, Magritta and all very nice considering old time and situation. > > > hope that will helps me to understand and utilize system and finally to absorb root or essence of system so other all system and vedic text can be clarified with same so better results can be obtained related to timing of events. > > > Everybody is trying/pushing here only to help others using there own approach It is really appreciated GOD WILL HELP THEM WHO HELPED OTHERS > > > > > > Please find below is thought process/approach: > > > I am taking acceptance that person is not mentally retired and birth details are correct no rectification required > > > > > > Quality of 7th house: > > > * checking Ju in Libra in rashi/navamsa. ...navamsa has that...it is RK,NRK and LoE..seems not good for marriage. > > > * checking Ve nakshatra in rashi...bharni. ..ok > > > * checking Su and Ve distance in rashi...less then 43...ok > > > * checking Ve is with Ra,St or aspect in rashi/navamsa. ....Ve is with St in navamsa....spoils Ve more > > > * checking LoA,LoB,LoC, LoD,LoE in rashi.....Ve, St..Mo,Ju > > > * checking planets with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ..Sa and Ju.....St is LoC and Ju is loE for 7th house and LoA for 5th house. > > > * checking Ra aspects on house in rashi/navamsa. ..9,12,2. ..7,9,11.. 12th is HoE,2nd is HoA,9th is karak for HoA and HoC for child..7th is HB,11th is HC > > > * checking Ra aspects on planets in rashi and navamsa...Me, Su......Me 6th lord become more malefic and Su LoB for child case > > > * checking for planets with 6th/12th lord in rashi/navamsa. .... Ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord.....me is with ve in navamsa spoils ve. > > > * checking for aspects on house in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... > > > * checking for aspects on planets in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... > > > * cheking malefic aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....Ju with 5 points aspects to HoE,Ve with 6 points aspects to HB > > > * cheking benific aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....St with 2 points also LoC aspects to HB,HA and Mo aspects to HB > > > Blessings,compatibi lity,DBCE, strong house,strong planets: > > > * as usual to be looked will look another time > > > Finding significator: > > > * checking for 2nd lord in rashi......Ve is 2nd lord...Ve antra will bring more pain > > > * looking at 2,7,11 lords...ve and st....ve is with 6 points and st is with 2 points ....left st less points and left ve 2nd lord > > > * looking at 2,7,11 occupents ...me and su...me is with 7 points and su is with 4 points ...left su less points and left me 6th lord > > > * looking at 4,12 occupents... ju and ke(ju/ju)... so ju....ju is with 5 points ....considering ju ...left as in Libra and aspect malefic to HOE > > > * consider Reperesnter for Ra/Ke...Su,Ve/ Ju,Ju.... ..left Ra as alresdy left su and ve,left ke as already left ju > > > * looking at 4,12 lords....Mo, ju....considerin g moon as already left ju....mo may act......... still requires more time for me to finalise > > > > > > ------------ ------ > > > Regards, > > > Devisingh > > > > > > Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=Corner@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Devisingh ji, > > > > > > Very nice attempt. Please continue your chain of thought. > > > Try to find the antra that you think might give marriage. Just go upto antra. > > > So first compute the delay and there after start to think over the best possible period that u think can give the event. > > > However, do write your thinking process. That will help one figure out where you are going away or your confusion. > > > Well Done. > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro. ca > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=astrologyan> dtimingevents] On Behalf Of devisigh > > > Thursday November 5, 2009 6:42 AM > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart > > > > > > Dear All; > > > > > > My first attempt using KAS rules/techniques only > > > > > > 7th house marriage: > > > selecting Mo main Dasha which is with FK Ve for 7th house > > > Su and Ju seems significator from ws points for 7th house > > > other planets aspects 7th house i left them > > > Su is with Me which is 6th load makes Su samdharmi to 6th lord i left that > > > Ju having highest points and also LoE > > > now considering Ju only as strong significator which in RK and NRK and natural samdharmi to Mo which is LoD. > > > Ju does not have sight on A/B/C and is LoE can gives results > > > > > > Thinking for samdharmi of Ju > > > in navamsa Ju is with Ra ...makes Ju and Ra samdharmi > > > Ra can be thought to facilitate results for 7th house matters ........still this takes time for me to finalize > > > > > > ------------ ------ > > > Regards, > > > Devisingh > > > > > > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji, > > > > > > You are correct. It was a typo. It was good that I gave the degree of all planets so this mistake could be checked right in the begining. > > > > > > Thanks Nikhlesh ji. > > > > > > The date should be May 24th. > > > > > > 24th May 1979 > > > 4:10 AM > > > 28N40 > > > 77E13 > > > > > > Sorry about that. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=%40> , " nikhlesh mathur " <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=nikhleshmathur@ <nikhleshmathur@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sub: 24th Feb 1979, 4.10 am, 28.N.40, 77.E.13 > > > > Dear Ash ji, > > > > > > > > You said that Su is 9Ta31 for the above native. But a person born on the month of Feb cannot have his Sun in Taurus sign. It should be in Aquarius at this time. > > > > > > > > If other things are okay then I think the birth date is 24th May. > > > > > > > > Please confirm. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:47:29 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add to > > > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > 6) When > > > > can the native face health problems? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash's Corner@ [kas@ <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=kas@> ....] > > > > Monday October 26, 2009 > > > > 12:18 AM > > > > To: > > > > 'astrologyandtiming events@grou ps.com <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=%27%40> ' > > > > Practice Chart > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear > > > > Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This > > > > lady has been posting charts in various lists for many years now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is > > > > the chart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24th > > > > Feb 1979 > > > > > > > > 4:10 AM > > > > > > > > 28N40 > > > > > > > > 77E13 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From > > > > what I gather, she had an affair or liked some guy that she wanted to > > > > marry. I am not clear from her posts > > > > that if she married the same guy or not. > > > > Her parents were looking out for some proposals for her. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If this > > > > chart came blindly to you, can you predict the following. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) > > > > Marriage > > > > > > > > 2) > > > > Child birth > > > > > > > > 3) > > > > Marital Relations overall > > > > > > > > 4) > > > > She has been complaining that relations are bad after marriage and > > > > asked if she should go for divorce. > > > > > > > > 5) > > > > Why she had affair or what are the yogs for that in this chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet > > > > > > > > > > > > Degrees > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As > > > > > > > > > > > > 15 Ar 55 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Su > > > > > > > > > > > > 9 Ta 31 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mo > > > > > > > > > > > > 13 Ar 48 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ma > > > > > > > > > > > > 13 Ar 8 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Me > > > > > > > > > > > > 2 Ta 15 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ju > > > > > > > > > > > > 11 Cn 16 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ve > > > > > > > > > > > > 14 Ar 30 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sa > > > > > > > > > > > > 14 Le 35 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra > > > > > > > > > > > > 20 Le 59 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ke > > > > > > > > > > > > 20 Aq 59 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage <http://in.rd./tagline_yyi_1/*http:/in./> . > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage <http://in.rd./tagline_yyi_1/*http:/in./> . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See <http://in.rd./tagline_yyi_1/*http:/in./> your Homepage. > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 12, 2009 The way I understood this is as following - Let's take an example. Lagna is Cancer. Jupiter is in lagna (in traditional VA, it will be considered as exalted). Saturn is in 4th house (again exalted) and Mars is in 10th in Aries (owns this sign and in kendra). In this example, according to this dictum, as I understand it is that Saturn, Jupiter and Mars will all be samdharmis. Jupiter and Mars are in 4:10 and so are Jupiter and Saturn. But Saturn and Mars are 1:7. Jupiter and Mars and similarly Juptier and Saturn can be explained by 4:10 theory the way you explained. However, the addition here is Saturn and Mars. Am I missing something? Nir. , " Ash's Corner " <kas wrote: > > Dear Hussein ji and NS ji, > > Please read the sentence above that as well. > > “ > (If, in the above case, planet 'A' had less points then 'B', then planet 'A' would behave in a reverse way and might give adverse results if it didn't receive more than 12 points in its final tally, as indicated in the worksheet.)†> > The essence of that write up is that how 4:10 is being advocated by Saravali and others. That said, in our system, we go one step further to classify the same i.e. > > 1) Planet in 10th place if its less than 4 bindus and Planet in 4th house from it is with more than 4 bindus > 2) Planet in 10th place if its with more than 4 bindus and planet in 4th place from it is with less than 4 bindus > 3) Planet in 10th place is with 4 bindus and planet in 4th place from it is with more than 4 bindus > > So, in all the above case there is a very big difference on how the result will be. In the 1st case both planets will give good result as they will become very powerful SD as there is power transfer and in the WS the power will go up for all 12 house for the planet in 10th house that controls the planet in 4th house so in both antras result will be good. > > In second case, there is opposition. Planet in 10th place is with more than 4 bindus so its in House D for the 4th house from it so it will give the event or become eager but the planet in the 4th place will oppose the karaktwa of the planet in 10th place so during the antras very different results will be there. > > In the 3rd case, if the planet in 10th place is LoD or LoE then it will control the planet and will act like case 1 but for the house that it is not LoD or LoE it will not become SD and there will be no power transfer as there will not be any control of planet in 10th place on the planet in 4th place from it. > > Please understand this. > > Now since we are talking about 4:10 then our focus is on case 1 given above as we are studying positive things and trying to give the person who comes to u for getting a reading some hope. But it does not mean that other 2 scenarios are not there. > > Please do not get confused about this and get concept firm in your mind. So in case 1 only they will become mutual karaks means they can replace each other and in KAS terminology they become Samdharmi and that too 2 way means that both can replace each other. But only for case 1 and for case 3 in case the lord in 10th place is LoD or LoE for those house it will become SD with power transfer. But for case 2, it will be reverse effect. Planet in 4th place will oppose planet in 10th place and one will get the result accordingly. > Cheers !!! > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > On Behalf Of Hussein > Thursday November 12, 2009 3:44 PM > > Re: Practice Chart > > > Dear Ash ji > > Anup ji had sent a text which Guru ji had explained SD rules there maybe in a class or worlshop(( 15th Aug 2008 2nd)).Anup ji sent this as a message in the group.I've saved that lessson as word file but don't know the number of message. > > Here is that rule: > > " > Sloka 6: > There is a reference in Saravali regarding two planets in Kendras (angle houses †" 1, 4, 7, 10), becoming mutual significators. We have a similar law in this system also. > > Saravali Chapter 6 sloka - 1, 2 and 3: > > Swarkshatrikonntund astha yadi kendreshu sansthitaI > Anyonyam karakste syu: kendreshvev harermtamII 1II > > Ravitanyo jookstha: kulirlagne bruhaspatihimanshuI > Meshe kujo raviyut: pararsparm karaka ete II2II > > Tungsuhrutkhgruhnas he stitha gruha: karaka: samakhyata:I > Meshurane ch raviriti visheshto vakti chanakya: II 3II > > > MEANING: When two planets are in a Kendra and are exalted or own the house they are in, they become mutual karakas or significators. In the above sloka, Acharya Vishnugupt says that this happens only with respect to Kendras. One example, (as illustrated in Fig.37) for the Cancer lagna is given, with Saturn in Libra, the Moon and Jupiter in the lagna, Sun and Mars in Aries. In this case, all of them became mutual karakas. Similarly, some authors say that planets that are mutually angular though not necessarily from the ascendant are also mutual significators. For our purposes, when two planets are exalted or own the Kendra house they are in, making them mutual karakas, this is also a phenomenon that we use in this system. > > Best Wishes > > Hussein > , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> wrote: > > > > Dear Hussein ji? > > > > What law is that????? Please explain or show me the mail number so I can read that and understand what context? > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > On Behalf Of Hussein > > Thursday November 12, 2009 2:49 PM > > > > Re: Practice Chart > > > > > > Dear Ash ji > > > > I think another rule which is available for SDs is that :the planets which are in the exaltation sign or > > > > are in their own kendra are SD for each other. > > > > Best Wishes > > > > Hussein > > , " Ash's Corner@ " kas@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bella ji, > > > > > > Just one small correction from my side on my earlier mail. > > > > > > The order or SD will be > > > > > > 1) 4:10 > > > 2) Same Sign & Nak > > > 3) Same Navamsa > > > 4) Navamsa lord > > > 5) Nakshatra lord. > > > > > > NSD if they get a chance they will give, that depends on fixed relationship as per natural chart. So there is no order for the same. Except that if they are in 1:7 then they cease to become NSD’s. > > > > > > The reason for the above order is that if you notice that the last 2 are only one way, means planet comes sd to navamsa lord or nak lord so its one way. Means planet can replace the nav lord or nak lord if they are unable to give the result but not vice versa. > > > When planets are in same navamsa then they are 2 way means both can replace each other. > > > > > > Hence the distinction. > > > > > > Just try to understand the essence of the same. > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > On Behalf Of BPShiv > > > Thursday November 12, 2009 12:48 PM > > > > > > Re: Re: Practice Chart > > > > > > > > >  > > > Dear Devi Singh ji, > > > My answers are in purple. Seniors please correct my errors as this is the very basic portion of KAS that we are strengthening. > > > > > > > > > Please clarify CAPS...this is new to me? > > > > > > " 2.All Planets cojoin in sign NO " > > > By this i mean to say if two planets are in one sign in rashi chart ...for example ju and ma both are in Leo...both become samdharmi to each other....ma has low points so Ma can replace Ju > > > NO. Not in Rasi BUT YES in navamsa. If Ju and Ma are in Leo in Rasi they cannot be SD but if they are in same navamsa then they are SD. > > > In Rasi Ju and Ma have to be in the same sign AND also in the same nakshatra. > > > > > > " 6.Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO " > > > This is case where Ju is in Leo in rashi chart and Ma is in Leo in navamsa.....both are in Leo and become samdharmi > > > No. But according to lesson 25 they could be SD if they both have more points. > > > > > > " 8.Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO " > > > This is case where Ju with 5 point in Tarus and placed in 4th house....so LoD for 7th house is Ve and Ju can give result due to its placement so samdharmi to Ve ....can replace Ve > > > NO. Planet is not SD to sign Lo itself in Rasi. > > > Here in your example if you are talking about 4:10 relationship than if Ju has 5 bindus in 4th place and if Ma is in 10th place with 3 bindus than Ju can be SD to Ma provided it has more bindus. > > > > > > " 9.If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra NO " > > > This is case Ju is with Ra in rashi/navamsa.......and Ra represents Su/St......so Ju samdharmi to Su/St.....I Think this is my mistake we should not consider Ra as it does not have rulership of any sign > > > > > > > > > > > > NO. Ju is not SD to Su. > > > In this case if Ju is with Ra in rasi they are not SD. If they are in Leo that means Ra represents Su. Also we have to see nakshatra Lo that Ra is in. Say Ra is in nakshatra of Ve and from two of them whichever has more bindus Ra will represent like them. If Ve has 5 bindus and Su has 3 bindus than Ra will be more like Ve and less like Su also have to check the points in WS. > > > Now if Ra is with Ju in Sa navamsa than Ra is SD to Ju and SD to Sa. > > > To summarize this ex. Ra REPRESENTS Ve and is SD to Ju and Sa. > > > > > > " Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO " > > > I think this is again not true as per your emails and lessons as well.......rather Mo natural samdharmi to Ma.............Mo can replace Ma. > > > However i have not got root cause/main reason for this ......rather what i think is Mo can not be boss .....Please clarify or provide any means where should i look? > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes. If Ma is in navamsa of Mo than Ma is SD to Mo and Ma can fill in for Mo. > > > Also, please refer to Ash ji's msg # 20953 link. Nice update and more clarifications. > > > > > > Thank you, > > > -Bella. > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > Anup. M <dalh_1@ > > > > > > Thursday, November 12, 2009 8:48 AM > > > Re: Re: Practice Chart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Devi singh ji, > > > > > > > > > Just wait,i hope members over here will try to explain you > > > regarding your confusions. > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 12/11/09, devisigh devisingh.rajput@ wrote: > > > > > > devisigh devisingh.rajput@ > > > Re: Re: Practice Chart > > > > > > Thursday, 12 November, 2009, 7:28 PM > > > > > > Dear Anup ji, > > > > > > It is really wondering for me.....something i guess incorrect in drafting/representa tion by me...let me try one more time in better way..... > > > > > > Please clarify CAPS...this is new to me? > > > > > > " 2.All Planets cojoin in sign NO " > > > By this i mean to say if two planets are in one sign in rashi chart ...for example ju and ma both are in Leo...both become samdharmi to each other....ma has low points so Ma can replace Ju > > > > > > " 6.Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO " > > > This is case where Ju is in Leo in rashi chart and Ma is in Leo in navamsa..... both are in Leo and become samdharmi > > > > > > " 8.Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO " > > > This is case where Ju with 5 point in Tarus and placed in 4th house....so LoD for 7th house is Ve and Ju can give result due to its placement so samdharmi to Ve ....can replace Ve > > > > > > " 9.If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra NO " > > > This is case Ju is with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ......and Ra represents Su/St......so Ju samdharmi to Su/St.....I Think this is my mistake we should not consider Ra as it does not have rulership of any sign > > > > > > " Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO " > > > I think this is again not true as per your emails and lessons as well.......rather Mo natural samdharmi to Ma.......... ...Mo can replace Ma. > > > However i have not got root cause/main reason for this ......rather what i think is Mo can not be boss .....Please clarify or provide any means where should i look? > > > > > > ------------ ------ > > > Regards, > > > Devisingh > > > > > > > > > Anup. M wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Devi singh ji, > > > > > > > > > My understanding is as per CAPS below. > > > > > > Regards > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 11/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> > > > Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > Wednesday, 11 November, 2009, 6:30 PM > > > > > > Dear Anup ji, > > > > > > Thank you ....for corrections on emails.....this will keep me on track and avoiding out of track. > > > > > > If Planets in navamsa have 4:10 relation we should not consider them samdharmi that is input for me. > > > > > > Below is my understanding related to samdharmi what is gathered upto 2000 emails of achieves.... .putting here so may be help full to other members as well please have a look and comment on them where requires...i have arranged them on priority basis please provides your valuable comment for them where required > > > 1. Planets making 4:10 in rashi (offcourse boss and subordinate analogy) YES > > > 2. All Planets cojoin in sign NO > > > 3. Planet is samdharmi to Lord of nakshtra sign YES > > > 4. All Planets in same nakshatra YES > > > 5. All Planets cojoin in navamsa YES > > > 6. Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO > > > 7. Planet is samdharmi to Lord navamsa sign YES > > > 8. Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO > > > 9. If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra NO > > > 10. > > > 11. Ra is samdharmi to sign lord and navamsa lord and planet cojoin in navamsa YES > > > > > > Yes it is my mistake mo,ju,ma are not natural samdharmi as per KAS......Please forgive me i might done it knowingly but not intentionally > > > In kalpurush chart ....looking 4:10 > > > St and Ve are samdharmi to each other....can replace each other > > > Su samdharmi to Ma...Su can replace Ma YES > > > Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO > > > ------------ ------ > > > Regards, > > > Devisingh > > > > > > Anup. M wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Devi singh ji, > > > > > > > > > I think samdharmi concept is not clear somewhere in your mail > > > > > > Pleae note that .. > > > MOON AND JU ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI > > > JU AND MARS ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI. > > > > > > Also we do not consider 4:10 relation in navamsa. > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 10/11/09, devisigh <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=devisingh.rajput@ <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> > > > Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > Tuesday, 10 November, 2009, 6:56 PM > > > > > > Dear All; > > > > > > Some more thoughts to fix antra > > > > > > St full delay but st have moved 15 degree so considering 27.5-1.3=26. 3 year initial value > > > Ju aspects Hb in navamsa but is is in libra with rahu in navamsa and in nakshtra of St so it can not check to saturn so full delay no help from Ju to reduce delay as staus of Ju is not good > > > > > > no zero in SAV so no addition in delay > > > Blessing in navamsa but can not help to reduce delay > > > St is with Ra in rashi so more affilicted add delay > > > Mo aspected by Ra in rashi and St cojoin in navamsa ,As lumanaries are aspected so that will add delay > > > > > > Main dasha lord Mo is OK as karka to give 7th house events > > > > > > Mo-Mo > > > Mo LoD and Natural Samdharmi to Ju can give event > > > > > > But I think this would not be case as some what delay have to be added > > > > > > Mo-Ma > > > Ju and Ma both in cancer one in rasi and another in navamsa makes them samdharmi > > > Ju and Ma both are natural samdharmi > > > Ju and Ma 4:10 in rashi/navamsa > > > Ju LoE and high point So Event can be in 3rd sector of it. > > > > > > > > > Mo-Ra > > > Ra represnts Su/Ve....considerin g more like Ve NK FK.... and cojoin Ju in navamsa so samdahrmi to Ju > > > > > > so Event can be in 3rd sector of it.......seems not wise choice still to me > > > > > > Mo-Ju > > > Ju Can give Event in 3rd Sector on it > > > > > > will come up with more thought as gets educated to this system > > > ------------ ------ > > > Regards, > > > Devisingh > > > > > > devisigh wrote: > > > Dear Ash ji, > > > > > > Namaskar > > > > > > Sincere thanks for your words attitude intension and time. > > > > > > I am trying my all time what i can collect to study this system. > > > I guess this can takes time may be 3year (less points till that time also indicate hardwork and busy for me) Will continue my attempt/doubts hope for comments from moderators for same. > > > I am enjoying achieves thanks to Krushna,sanjay, Donna,Peter, Magritta and all very nice considering old time and situation. > > > hope that will helps me to understand and utilize system and finally to absorb root or essence of system so other all system and vedic text can be clarified with same so better results can be obtained related to timing of events. > > > Everybody is trying/pushing here only to help others using there own approach It is really appreciated GOD WILL HELP THEM WHO HELPED OTHERS > > > > > > Please find below is thought process/approach: > > > I am taking acceptance that person is not mentally retired and birth details are correct no rectification required > > > > > > Quality of 7th house: > > > * checking Ju in Libra in rashi/navamsa. ...navamsa has that...it is RK,NRK and LoE..seems not good for marriage. > > > * checking Ve nakshatra in rashi...bharni. ..ok > > > * checking Su and Ve distance in rashi...less then 43...ok > > > * checking Ve is with Ra,St or aspect in rashi/navamsa. ....Ve is with St in navamsa....spoils Ve more > > > * checking LoA,LoB,LoC, LoD,LoE in rashi.....Ve, St..Mo,Ju > > > * checking planets with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ..Sa and Ju.....St is LoC and Ju is loE for 7th house and LoA for 5th house. > > > * checking Ra aspects on house in rashi/navamsa. ..9,12,2. .7,9,11.. 12th is HoE,2nd is HoA,9th is karak for HoA and HoC for child..7th is HB,11th is HC > > > * checking Ra aspects on planets in rashi and navamsa...Me, Su......Me 6th lord become more malefic and Su LoB for child case > > > * checking for planets with 6th/12th lord in rashi/navamsa. .... Ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord.....me is with ve in navamsa spoils ve. > > > * checking for aspects on house in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... > > > * checking for aspects on planets in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... > > > * cheking malefic aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....Ju with 5 points aspects to HoE,Ve with 6 points aspects to HB > > > * cheking benific aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....St with 2 points also LoC aspects to HB,HA and Mo aspects to HB > > > Blessings,compatibi lity,DBCE, strong house,strong planets: > > > * as usual to be looked will look another time > > > Finding significator: > > > * checking for 2nd lord in rashi......Ve is 2nd lord...Ve antra will bring more pain > > > * looking at 2,7,11 lords...ve and st....ve is with 6 points and st is with 2 points ....left st less points and left ve 2nd lord > > > * looking at 2,7,11 occupents ...me and su...me is with 7 points and su is with 4 points ...left su less points and left me 6th lord > > > * looking at 4,12 occupents... ju and ke(ju/ju)... so ju....ju is with 5 points ....considering ju ...left as in Libra and aspect malefic to HOE > > > * consider Reperesnter for Ra/Ke...Su,Ve/ Ju,Ju.... ..left Ra as alresdy left su and ve,left ke as already left ju > > > * looking at 4,12 lords....Mo, ju....considerin g moon as already left ju....mo may act......... still requires more time for me to finalise > > > > > > ------------ ------ > > > Regards, > > > Devisingh > > > > > > Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=Corner@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Devisingh ji, > > > > > > Very nice attempt. Please continue your chain of thought. > > > Try to find the antra that you think might give marriage. Just go upto antra. > > > So first compute the delay and there after start to think over the best possible period that u think can give the event. > > > However, do write your thinking process. That will help one figure out where you are going away or your confusion. > > > Well Done. > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro. ca > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=astrologyan> dtimingevents@ . com] On Behalf Of devisigh > > > Thursday November 5, 2009 6:42 AM > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart > > > > > > Dear All; > > > > > > My first attempt using KAS rules/techniques only > > > > > > 7th house marriage: > > > selecting Mo main Dasha which is with FK Ve for 7th house > > > Su and Ju seems significator from ws points for 7th house > > > other planets aspects 7th house i left them > > > Su is with Me which is 6th load makes Su samdharmi to 6th lord i left that > > > Ju having highest points and also LoE > > > now considering Ju only as strong significator which in RK and NRK and natural samdharmi to Mo which is LoD. > > > Ju does not have sight on A/B/C and is LoE can gives results > > > > > > Thinking for samdharmi of Ju > > > in navamsa Ju is with Ra ...makes Ju and Ra samdharmi > > > Ra can be thought to facilitate results for 7th house matters .......still this takes time for me to finalize > > > > > > ------------ ------ > > > Regards, > > > Devisingh > > > > > > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji, > > > > > > You are correct. It was a typo. It was good that I gave the degree of all planets so this mistake could be checked right in the begining. > > > > > > Thanks Nikhlesh ji. > > > > > > The date should be May 24th. > > > > > > 24th May 1979 > > > 4:10 AM > > > 28N40 > > > 77E13 > > > > > > Sorry about that. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=%40gr\ oups.com> , " nikhlesh mathur " <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=nikhleshmathur@ <nikhleshmathur@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sub: 24th Feb 1979, 4.10 am, 28.N.40, 77.E.13 > > > > Dear Ash ji, > > > > > > > > You said that Su is 9Ta31 for the above native. But a person born on the month of Feb cannot have his Sun in Taurus sign. It should be in Aquarius at this time. > > > > > > > > If other things are okay then I think the birth date is 24th May. > > > > > > > > Please confirm. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:47:29 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add to > > > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > 6) When > > > > can the native face health problems? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash's Corner@ [kas@ <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=kas@> ...] > > > > Monday October 26, 2009 > > > > 12:18 AM > > > > To: > > > > 'astrologyandtiming events@grou ps.com <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=%27%40yaho\ ogroups.com> ' > > > > Practice Chart > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear > > > > Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This > > > > lady has been posting charts in various lists for many years now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is > > > > the chart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24th > > > > Feb 1979 > > > > > > > > 4:10 AM > > > > > > > > 28N40 > > > > > > > > 77E13 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From > > > > what I gather, she had an affair or liked some guy that she wanted to > > > > marry. I am not clear from her posts > > > > that if she married the same guy or not. > > > > Her parents were looking out for some proposals for her. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If this > > > > chart came blindly to you, can you predict the following. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) > > > > Marriage > > > > > > > > 2) > > > > Child birth > > > > > > > > 3) > > > > Marital Relations overall > > > > > > > > 4) > > > > She has been complaining that relations are bad after marriage and > > > > asked if she should go for divorce. > > > > > > > > 5) > > > > Why she had affair or what are the yogs for that in this chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet > > > > > > > > > > > > Degrees > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As > > > > > > > > > > > > 15 Ar 55 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Su > > > > > > > > > > > > 9 Ta 31 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mo > > > > > > > > > > > > 13 Ar 48 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ma > > > > > > > > > > > > 13 Ar 8 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Me > > > > > > > > > > > > 2 Ta 15 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ju > > > > > > > > > > > > 11 Cn 16 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ve > > > > > > > > > > > > 14 Ar 30 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sa > > > > > > > > > > > > 14 Le 35 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra > > > > > > > > > > > > 20 Le 59 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ke > > > > > > > > > > > > 20 Aq 59 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage <http://in.rd./tagline_yyi_1/*http:/in./> . > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage <http://in.rd./tagline_yyi_1/*http:/in./> . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See <http://in.rd./tagline_yyi_1/*http:/in./> your Homepage. > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 12, 2009 Dear Ash jiNir ji has given a good example.I think it will be clear what I say.Best WishesHussein , "nirvana_seeker3" <nirvana_seeker3 wrote:>> The way I understood this is as following - > > Let's take an example. Lagna is Cancer. Jupiter is in lagna (in traditional VA, it will be considered as exalted). Saturn is in 4th house (again exalted) and Mars is in 10th in Aries (owns this sign and in kendra). In this example, according to this dictum, as I understand it is that Saturn, Jupiter and Mars will all be samdharmis. Jupiter and Mars are in 4:10 and so are Jupiter and Saturn. But Saturn and Mars are 1:7. > > Jupiter and Mars and similarly Juptier and Saturn can be explained by 4:10 theory the way you explained. However, the addition here is Saturn and Mars.> > Am I missing something?> > Nir.> > , "Ash's Corner@" kas@ wrote:> >> > Dear Hussein ji and NS ji,> > > > Please read the sentence above that as well.> > > > “ > > (If, in the above case, planet 'A' had less points then 'B', then planet 'A' would behave in a reverse way and might give adverse results if it didn't receive more than 12 points in its final tally, as indicated in the worksheet.)â€> > > > The essence of that write up is that how 4:10 is being advocated by Saravali and others. That said, in our system, we go one step further to classify the same i.e.> > > > 1) Planet in 10th place if its less than 4 bindus and Planet in 4th house from it is with more than 4 bindus> > 2) Planet in 10th place if its with more than 4 bindus and planet in 4th place from it is with less than 4 bindus> > 3) Planet in 10th place is with 4 bindus and planet in 4th place from it is with more than 4 bindus> > > > So, in all the above case there is a very big difference on how the result will be. In the 1st case both planets will give good result as they will become very powerful SD as there is power transfer and in the WS the power will go up for all 12 house for the planet in 10th house that controls the planet in 4th house so in both antras result will be good.> > > > In second case, there is opposition. Planet in 10th place is with more than 4 bindus so its in House D for the 4th house from it so it will give the event or become eager but the planet in the 4th place will oppose the karaktwa of the planet in 10th place so during the antras very different results will be there.> > > > In the 3rd case, if the planet in 10th place is LoD or LoE then it will control the planet and will act like case 1 but for the house that it is not LoD or LoE it will not become SD and there will be no power transfer as there will not be any control of planet in 10th place on the planet in 4th place from it.> > > > Please understand this. > > > > Now since we are talking about 4:10 then our focus is on case 1 given above as we are studying positive things and trying to give the person who comes to u for getting a reading some hope. But it does not mean that other 2 scenarios are not there.> > > > Please do not get confused about this and get concept firm in your mind. So in case 1 only they will become mutual karaks means they can replace each other and in KAS terminology they become Samdharmi and that too 2 way means that both can replace each other. But only for case 1 and for case 3 in case the lord in 10th place is LoD or LoE for those house it will become SD with power transfer. But for case 2, it will be reverse effect. Planet in 4th place will oppose planet in 10th place and one will get the result accordingly. > > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > On Behalf Of Hussein> > Thursday November 12, 2009 3:44 PM> > > > Re: Practice Chart> > > > > > Dear Ash ji> > > > Anup ji had sent a text which Guru ji had explained SD rules there maybe in a class or worlshop(( 15th Aug 2008 2nd)).Anup ji sent this as a message in the group.I've saved that lessson as word file but don't know the number of message.> > > > Here is that rule:> > > > " > > Sloka 6: > > There is a reference in Saravali regarding two planets in Kendras (angle houses â€" 1, 4, 7, 10), becoming mutual significators. We have a similar law in this system also. > > > > Saravali Chapter 6 sloka - 1, 2 and 3: > > > > Swarkshatrikonntund astha yadi kendreshu sansthitaI > > Anyonyam karakste syu: kendreshvev harermtamII 1II > > > > Ravitanyo jookstha: kulirlagne bruhaspatihimanshuI > > Meshe kujo raviyut: pararsparm karaka ete II2II > > > > Tungsuhrutkhgruhnas he stitha gruha: karaka: samakhyata:I > > Meshurane ch raviriti visheshto vakti chanakya: II 3II > > > > > > MEANING: When two planets are in a Kendra and are exalted or own the house they are in, they become mutual karakas or significators. In the above sloka, Acharya Vishnugupt says that this happens only with respect to Kendras. One example, (as illustrated in Fig.37) for the Cancer lagna is given, with Saturn in Libra, the Moon and Jupiter in the lagna, Sun and Mars in Aries. In this case, all of them became mutual karakas. Similarly, some authors say that planets that are mutually angular though not necessarily from the ascendant are also mutual significators. For our purposes, when two planets are exalted or own the Kendra house they are in, making them mutual karakas, this is also a phenomenon that we use in this system. > > > > Best Wishes> > > > Hussein> > , "Ash's Corner@" <kas@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Hussein ji?> > > > > > What law is that????? Please explain or show me the mail number so I can read that and understand what context?> > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > > > On Behalf Of Hussein> > > Thursday November 12, 2009 2:49 PM> > > > > > Re: Practice Chart> > > > > > > > > Dear Ash ji > > > > > > I think another rule which is available for SDs is that :the planets which are in the exaltation sign or > > > > > > are in their own kendra are SD for each other.> > > > > > Best Wishes> > > > > > Hussein> > > , "Ash's Corner@" kas@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Bella ji,> > > > > > > > Just one small correction from my side on my earlier mail.> > > > > > > > The order or SD will be> > > > > > > > 1) 4:10> > > > 2) Same Sign & Nak> > > > 3) Same Navamsa> > > > 4) Navamsa lord> > > > 5) Nakshatra lord.> > > > > > > > NSD if they get a chance they will give, that depends on fixed relationship as per natural chart. So there is no order for the same. Except that if they are in 1:7 then they cease to become NSD’s.> > > > > > > > The reason for the above order is that if you notice that the last 2 are only one way, means planet comes sd to navamsa lord or nak lord so its one way. Means planet can replace the nav lord or nak lord if they are unable to give the result but not vice versa.> > > > When planets are in same navamsa then they are 2 way means both can replace each other.> > > > > > > > Hence the distinction. > > > > > > > > Just try to understand the essence of the same.> > > > Cheers !!!> > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > > > > > On Behalf Of BPShiv> > > > Thursday November 12, 2009 12:48 PM> > > > > > > > Re: Re: Practice Chart> > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > Dear Devi Singh ji,> > > > My answers are in purple. Seniors please correct my errors as this is the very basic portion of KAS that we are strengthening.> > > > > > > > > > > > Please clarify CAPS...this is new to me?> > > > > > > > "2.All Planets cojoin in sign NO"> > > > By this i mean to say if two planets are in one sign in rashi chart ...for example ju and ma both are in Leo...both become samdharmi to each other....ma has low points so Ma can replace Ju > > > > NO. Not in Rasi BUT YES in navamsa. If Ju and Ma are in Leo in Rasi they cannot be SD but if they are in same navamsa then they are SD.> > > > In Rasi Ju and Ma have to be in the same sign AND also in the same nakshatra.> > > > > > > > "6.Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO"> > > > This is case where Ju is in Leo in rashi chart and Ma is in Leo in navamsa.....both are in Leo and become samdharmi> > > > No. But according to lesson 25 they could be SD if they both have more points. > > > > > > > > "8.Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO"> > > > This is case where Ju with 5 point in Tarus and placed in 4th house....so LoD for 7th house is Ve and Ju can give result due to its placement so samdharmi to Ve ....can replace Ve> > > > NO. Planet is not SD to sign Lo itself in Rasi.> > > > Here in your example if you are talking about 4:10 relationship than if Ju has 5 bindus in 4th place and if Ma is in 10th place with 3 bindus than Ju can be SD to Ma provided it has more bindus. > > > > > > > > "9.If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra NO"> > > > This is case Ju is with Ra in rashi/navamsa.......and Ra represents Su/St......so Ju samdharmi to Su/St.....I Think this is my mistake we should not consider Ra as it does not have rulership of any sign> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NO. Ju is not SD to Su.> > > > In this case if Ju is with Ra in rasi they are not SD. If they are in Leo that means Ra represents Su. Also we have to see nakshatra Lo that Ra is in. Say Ra is in nakshatra of Ve and from two of them whichever has more bindus Ra will represent like them. If Ve has 5 bindus and Su has 3 bindus than Ra will be more like Ve and less like Su also have to check the points in WS.> > > > Now if Ra is with Ju in Sa navamsa than Ra is SD to Ju and SD to Sa.> > > > To summarize this ex. Ra REPRESENTS Ve and is SD to Ju and Sa.> > > > > > > > "Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO"> > > > I think this is again not true as per your emails and lessons as well.......rather Mo natural samdharmi to Ma.............Mo can replace Ma.> > > > However i have not got root cause/main reason for this ......rather what i think is Mo can not be boss .....Please clarify or provide any means where should i look?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes. If Ma is in navamsa of Mo than Ma is SD to Mo and Ma can fill in for Mo.> > > > Also, please refer to Ash ji's msg # 20953 link. Nice update and more clarifications.> > > > > > > > Thank you,> > > > -Bella.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > Anup. M <dalh_1@ > > > > > > > > Thursday, November 12, 2009 8:48 AM> > > > Re: Re: Practice Chart> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Devi singh ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > Just wait,i hope members over here will try to explain you > > > > regarding your confusions.> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Anup> > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 12/11/09, devisigh devisingh.rajput@ wrote:> > > > > > > > devisigh devisingh.rajput@> > > > Re: Re: Practice Chart> > > > > > > > Thursday, 12 November, 2009, 7:28 PM> > > > > > > > Dear Anup ji,> > > > > > > > It is really wondering for me.....something i guess incorrect in drafting/representa tion by me...let me try one more time in better way.....> > > > > > > > Please clarify CAPS...this is new to me?> > > > > > > > "2.All Planets cojoin in sign NO"> > > > By this i mean to say if two planets are in one sign in rashi chart ...for example ju and ma both are in Leo...both become samdharmi to each other....ma has low points so Ma can replace Ju > > > > > > > > "6.Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO"> > > > This is case where Ju is in Leo in rashi chart and Ma is in Leo in navamsa..... both are in Leo and become samdharmi> > > > > > > > "8.Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO"> > > > This is case where Ju with 5 point in Tarus and placed in 4th house....so LoD for 7th house is Ve and Ju can give result due to its placement so samdharmi to Ve ....can replace Ve> > > > > > > > "9.If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra NO"> > > > This is case Ju is with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ......and Ra represents Su/St......so Ju samdharmi to Su/St.....I Think this is my mistake we should not consider Ra as it does not have rulership of any sign> > > > > > > > "Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO"> > > > I think this is again not true as per your emails and lessons as well.......rather Mo natural samdharmi to Ma.......... ...Mo can replace Ma.> > > > However i have not got root cause/main reason for this ......rather what i think is Mo can not be boss .....Please clarify or provide any means where should i look?> > > > > > > > ------------ ------ > > > > Regards, > > > > Devisingh> > > > > > > > > > > > Anup. M wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Devi singh ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > My understanding is as per CAPS below.> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > Anup> > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 11/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote:> > > > > > > > devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com>> > > > Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart> > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> > > > Wednesday, 11 November, 2009, 6:30 PM> > > > > > > > Dear Anup ji,> > > > > > > > Thank you ....for corrections on emails.....this will keep me on track and avoiding out of track.> > > > > > > > If Planets in navamsa have 4:10 relation we should not consider them samdharmi that is input for me.> > > > > > > > Below is my understanding related to samdharmi what is gathered upto 2000 emails of achieves.... .putting here so may be help full to other members as well please have a look and comment on them where requires...i have arranged them on priority basis please provides your valuable comment for them where required> > > > 1. Planets making 4:10 in rashi (offcourse boss and subordinate analogy) YES > > > > 2. All Planets cojoin in sign NO > > > > 3. Planet is samdharmi to Lord of nakshtra sign YES > > > > 4. All Planets in same nakshatra YES > > > > 5. All Planets cojoin in navamsa YES > > > > 6. Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO> > > > 7. Planet is samdharmi to Lord navamsa sign YES > > > > 8. Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO> > > > 9. If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra NO > > > > 10. > > > > 11. Ra is samdharmi to sign lord and navamsa lord and planet cojoin in navamsa YES> > > > > > > > Yes it is my mistake mo,ju,ma are not natural samdharmi as per KAS......Please forgive me i might done it knowingly but not intentionally> > > > In kalpurush chart ....looking 4:10> > > > St and Ve are samdharmi to each other....can replace each other> > > > Su samdharmi to Ma...Su can replace Ma YES> > > > Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO> > > > ------------ ------ > > > > Regards, > > > > Devisingh> > > > > > > > Anup. M wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Devi singh ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > I think samdharmi concept is not clear somewhere in your mail> > > > > > > > Pleae note that ..> > > > MOON AND JU ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI > > > > JU AND MARS ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI.> > > > > > > > Also we do not consider 4:10 relation in navamsa.> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 10/11/09, devisigh <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=devisingh.rajput@ <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote:> > > > > > > > devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com>> > > > Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart> > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> > > > Tuesday, 10 November, 2009, 6:56 PM> > > > > > > > Dear All;> > > > > > > > Some more thoughts to fix antra> > > > > > > > St full delay but st have moved 15 degree so considering 27.5-1.3=26. 3 year initial value> > > > Ju aspects Hb in navamsa but is is in libra with rahu in navamsa and in nakshtra of St so it can not check to saturn so full delay no help from Ju to reduce delay as staus of Ju is not good> > > > > > > > no zero in SAV so no addition in delay> > > > Blessing in navamsa but can not help to reduce delay> > > > St is with Ra in rashi so more affilicted add delay> > > > Mo aspected by Ra in rashi and St cojoin in navamsa ,As lumanaries are aspected so that will add delay > > > > > > > > Main dasha lord Mo is OK as karka to give 7th house events> > > > > > > > Mo-Mo> > > > Mo LoD and Natural Samdharmi to Ju can give event> > > > > > > > But I think this would not be case as some what delay have to be added> > > > > > > > Mo-Ma> > > > Ju and Ma both in cancer one in rasi and another in navamsa makes them samdharmi> > > > Ju and Ma both are natural samdharmi> > > > Ju and Ma 4:10 in rashi/navamsa> > > > Ju LoE and high point So Event can be in 3rd sector of it.> > > > > > > > > > > > Mo-Ra> > > > Ra represnts Su/Ve....considerin g more like Ve NK FK.... and cojoin Ju in navamsa so samdahrmi to Ju > > > > > > > > so Event can be in 3rd sector of it.......seems not wise choice still to me> > > > > > > > Mo-Ju> > > > Ju Can give Event in 3rd Sector on it> > > > > > > > will come up with more thought as gets educated to this system> > > > ------------ ------ > > > > Regards, > > > > Devisingh> > > > > > > > devisigh wrote: > > > > Dear Ash ji,> > > > > > > > Namaskar> > > > > > > > Sincere thanks for your words attitude intension and time. > > > > > > > > I am trying my all time what i can collect to study this system. > > > > I guess this can takes time may be 3year (less points till that time also indicate hardwork and busy for me) Will continue my attempt/doubts hope for comments from moderators for same.> > > > I am enjoying achieves thanks to Krushna,sanjay, Donna,Peter, Magritta and all very nice considering old time and situation.> > > > hope that will helps me to understand and utilize system and finally to absorb root or essence of system so other all system and vedic text can be clarified with same so better results can be obtained related to timing of events.> > > > Everybody is trying/pushing here only to help others using there own approach It is really appreciated GOD WILL HELP THEM WHO HELPED OTHERS> > > > > > > > Please find below is thought process/approach:> > > > I am taking acceptance that person is not mentally retired and birth details are correct no rectification required> > > > > > > > Quality of 7th house:> > > > * checking Ju in Libra in rashi/navamsa. ...navamsa has that...it is RK,NRK and LoE..seems not good for marriage. > > > > * checking Ve nakshatra in rashi...bharni. ..ok > > > > * checking Su and Ve distance in rashi...less then 43...ok > > > > * checking Ve is with Ra,St or aspect in rashi/navamsa. ....Ve is with St in navamsa....spoils Ve more > > > > * checking LoA,LoB,LoC, LoD,LoE in rashi.....Ve, St..Mo,Ju > > > > * checking planets with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ..Sa and Ju.....St is LoC and Ju is loE for 7th house and LoA for 5th house. > > > > * checking Ra aspects on house in rashi/navamsa. ..9,12,2. .7,9,11.. 12th is HoE,2nd is HoA,9th is karak for HoA and HoC for child..7th is HB,11th is HC > > > > * checking Ra aspects on planets in rashi and navamsa...Me, Su......Me 6th lord become more malefic and Su LoB for child case > > > > * checking for planets with 6th/12th lord in rashi/navamsa. .... Ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord.....me is with ve in navamsa spoils ve. > > > > * checking for aspects on house in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... > > > > * checking for aspects on planets in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... > > > > * cheking malefic aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....Ju with 5 points aspects to HoE,Ve with 6 points aspects to HB > > > > * cheking benific aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....St with 2 points also LoC aspects to HB,HA and Mo aspects to HB> > > > Blessings,compatibi lity,DBCE, strong house,strong planets:> > > > * as usual to be looked will look another time> > > > Finding significator:> > > > * checking for 2nd lord in rashi......Ve is 2nd lord...Ve antra will bring more pain > > > > * looking at 2,7,11 lords...ve and st....ve is with 6 points and st is with 2 points ....left st less points and left ve 2nd lord > > > > * looking at 2,7,11 occupents ...me and su...me is with 7 points and su is with 4 points ...left su less points and left me 6th lord > > > > * looking at 4,12 occupents... ju and ke(ju/ju)... so ju....ju is with 5 points ....considering ju ...left as in Libra and aspect malefic to HOE > > > > * consider Reperesnter for Ra/Ke...Su,Ve/ Ju,Ju.... ..left Ra as alresdy left su and ve,left ke as already left ju > > > > * looking at 4,12 lords....Mo, ju....considerin g moon as already left ju....mo may act......... still requires more time for me to finalise> > > > > > > > ------------ ------ > > > > Regards, > > > > Devisingh> > > > > > > > Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=Corner@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Devisingh ji,> > > > > > > > Very nice attempt. Please continue your chain of thought. > > > > Try to find the antra that you think might give marriage. Just go upto antra. > > > > So first compute the delay and there after start to think over the best possible period that u think can give the event. > > > > However, do write your thinking process. That will help one figure out where you are going away or your confusion. > > > > Well Done. > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro. ca > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=astrologyan> dtimingevents] On Behalf Of devisigh> > > > Thursday November 5, 2009 6:42 AM> > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> > > > Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart> > > > > > > > Dear All;> > > > > > > > My first attempt using KAS rules/techniques only> > > > > > > > 7th house marriage:> > > > selecting Mo main Dasha which is with FK Ve for 7th house> > > > Su and Ju seems significator from ws points for 7th house> > > > other planets aspects 7th house i left them> > > > Su is with Me which is 6th load makes Su samdharmi to 6th lord i left that> > > > Ju having highest points and also LoE> > > > now considering Ju only as strong significator which in RK and NRK and natural samdharmi to Mo which is LoD.> > > > Ju does not have sight on A/B/C and is LoE can gives results> > > > > > > > Thinking for samdharmi of Ju> > > > in navamsa Ju is with Ra ...makes Ju and Ra samdharmi > > > > Ra can be thought to facilitate results for 7th house matters .......still this takes time for me to finalize> > > > > > > > ------------ ------ > > > > Regards, > > > > Devisingh> > > > > > > > > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji,> > > > > > > > You are correct. It was a typo. It was good that I gave the degree of all planets so this mistake could be checked right in the begining.> > > > > > > > Thanks Nikhlesh ji.> > > > > > > > The date should be May 24th.> > > > > > > > 24th May 1979> > > > 4:10 AM> > > > 28N40> > > > 77E13> > > > > > > > Sorry about that.> > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca> > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=%40> , "nikhlesh mathur" <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=nikhleshmathur@ <nikhleshmathur@ ...> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sub: 24th Feb 1979, 4.10 am, 28.N.40, 77.E.13> > > > > Dear Ash ji,> > > > > > > > > > You said that Su is 9Ta31 for the above native. But a person born on the month of Feb cannot have his Sun in Taurus sign. It should be in Aquarius at this time.> > > > > > > > > > If other things are okay then I think the birth date is 24th May.> > > > > > > > > > Please confirm.> > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:47:29 +0530 wrote> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Add to> > > > > this.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6) When> > > > > can the native face health problems?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash's Corner@ [kas@ <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=kas@> ...] > > > > > Monday October 26, 2009> > > > > 12:18 AM> > > > > To:> > > > > 'astrologyandtiming events@grou ps.com <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=%27%40> '> > > > > Practice Chart> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear> > > > > Group,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This> > > > > lady has been posting charts in various lists for many years now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is> > > > > the chart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24th> > > > > Feb 1979> > > > > > > > > > 4:10 AM> > > > > > > > > > 28N40> > > > > > > > > > 77E13> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From> > > > > what I gather, she had an affair or liked some guy that she wanted to> > > > > marry. I am not clear from her posts> > > > > that if she married the same guy or not.> > > > > Her parents were looking out for some proposals for her.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If this> > > > > chart came blindly to you, can you predict the following.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1)> > > > > Marriage> > > > > > > > > > 2)> > > > > Child birth> > > > > > > > > > 3)> > > > > Marital Relations overall> > > > > > > > > > 4)> > > > > She has been complaining that relations are bad after marriage and> > > > > asked if she should go for divorce.> > > > > > > > > > 5)> > > > > Why she had affair or what are the yogs for that in this chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Degrees> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 15 Ar 55> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Su> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9 Ta 31> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mo> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 13 Ar 48> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ma> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 13 Ar 8> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Me> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2 Ta 15> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ju> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11 Cn 16> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ve> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 14 Ar 30> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sa> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 14 Le 35> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 20 Le 59> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ke> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 20 Aq 59> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage <http://in.rd./tagline_yyi_1/*http:/in./> . > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage <http://in.rd./tagline_yyi_1/*http:/in./> . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See <http://in.rd./tagline_yyi_1/*http:/in./> your Homepage.> > > >> > >> >> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 12, 2009 Yes you are. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of nirvana_seeker3 Thursday November 12, 2009 5:06 PM To: Subject: Re: Practice Chart The way I understood this is as following - Let's take an example. Lagna is Cancer. Jupiter is in lagna (in traditional VA, it will be considered as exalted). Saturn is in 4th house (again exalted) and Mars is in 10th in Aries (owns this sign and in kendra). In this example, according to this dictum, as I understand it is that Saturn, Jupiter and Mars will all be samdharmis. Jupiter and Mars are in 4:10 and so are Jupiter and Saturn. But Saturn and Mars are 1:7. Jupiter and Mars and similarly Juptier and Saturn can be explained by 4:10 theory the way you explained. However, the addition here is Saturn and Mars. Am I missing something? Nir. , " Ash's Corner " <kas wrote: > > Dear Hussein ji and NS ji, > > Please read the sentence above that as well. > > “ > (If, in the above case, planet 'A' had less points then 'B', then planet 'A' would behave in a reverse way and might give adverse results if it didn't receive more than 12 points in its final tally, as indicated in the worksheet.)†> > The essence of that write up is that how 4:10 is being advocated by Saravali and others. That said, in our system, we go one step further to classify the same i.e. > > 1) Planet in 10th place if its less than 4 bindus and Planet in 4th house from it is with more than 4 bindus > 2) Planet in 10th place if its with more than 4 bindus and planet in 4th place from it is with less than 4 bindus > 3) Planet in 10th place is with 4 bindus and planet in 4th place from it is with more than 4 bindus > > So, in all the above case there is a very big difference on how the result will be. In the 1st case both planets will give good result as they will become very powerful SD as there is power transfer and in the WS the power will go up for all 12 house for the planet in 10th house that controls the planet in 4th house so in both antras result will be good. > > In second case, there is opposition. Planet in 10th place is with more than 4 bindus so its in House D for the 4th house from it so it will give the event or become eager but the planet in the 4th place will oppose the karaktwa of the planet in 10th place so during the antras very different results will be there. > > In the 3rd case, if the planet in 10th place is LoD or LoE then it will control the planet and will act like case 1 but for the house that it is not LoD or LoE it will not become SD and there will be no power transfer as there will not be any control of planet in 10th place on the planet in 4th place from it. > > Please understand this. > > Now since we are talking about 4:10 then our focus is on case 1 given above as we are studying positive things and trying to give the person who comes to u for getting a reading some hope. But it does not mean that other 2 scenarios are not there. > > Please do not get confused about this and get concept firm in your mind. So in case 1 only they will become mutual karaks means they can replace each other and in KAS terminology they become Samdharmi and that too 2 way means that both can replace each other. But only for case 1 and for case 3 in case the lord in 10th place is LoD or LoE for those house it will become SD with power transfer. But for case 2, it will be reverse effect. Planet in 4th place will oppose planet in 10th place and one will get the result accordingly. > Cheers !!! > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > On Behalf Of Hussein > Thursday November 12, 2009 3:44 PM > > Re: Practice Chart > > > Dear Ash ji > > Anup ji had sent a text which Guru ji had explained SD rules there maybe in a class or worlshop(( 15th Aug 2008 2nd)).Anup ji sent this as a message in the group.I've saved that lessson as word file but don't know the number of message. > > Here is that rule: > > " > Sloka 6: > There is a reference in Saravali regarding two planets in Kendras (angle houses †" 1, 4, 7, 10), becoming mutual significators. We have a similar law in this system also. > > Saravali Chapter 6 sloka - 1, 2 and 3: > > Swarkshatrikonntund astha yadi kendreshu sansthitaI > Anyonyam karakste syu: kendreshvev harermtamII 1II > > Ravitanyo jookstha: kulirlagne bruhaspatihimanshuI > Meshe kujo raviyut: pararsparm karaka ete II2II > > Tungsuhrutkhgruhnas he stitha gruha: karaka: samakhyata:I > Meshurane ch raviriti visheshto vakti chanakya: II 3II > > > MEANING: When two planets are in a Kendra and are exalted or own the house they are in, they become mutual karakas or significators. In the above sloka, Acharya Vishnugupt says that this happens only with respect to Kendras. One example, (as illustrated in Fig.37) for the Cancer lagna is given, with Saturn in Libra, the Moon and Jupiter in the lagna, Sun and Mars in Aries. In this case, all of them became mutual karakas. Similarly, some authors say that planets that are mutually angular though not necessarily from the ascendant are also mutual significators. For our purposes, when two planets are exalted or own the Kendra house they are in, making them mutual karakas, this is also a phenomenon that we use in this system. > > Best Wishes > > Hussein > , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> wrote: > > > > Dear Hussein ji? > > > > What law is that????? Please explain or show me the mail number so I can read that and understand what context? > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > On Behalf Of Hussein > > Thursday November 12, 2009 2:49 PM > > > > Re: Practice Chart > > > > > > Dear Ash ji > > > > I think another rule which is available for SDs is that :the planets which are in the exaltation sign or > > > > are in their own kendra are SD for each other. > > > > Best Wishes > > > > Hussein > > , " Ash's Corner@ " kas@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bella ji, > > > > > > Just one small correction from my side on my earlier mail. > > > > > > The order or SD will be > > > > > > 1) 4:10 > > > 2) Same Sign & Nak > > > 3) Same Navamsa > > > 4) Navamsa lord > > > 5) Nakshatra lord. > > > > > > NSD if they get a chance they will give, that depends on fixed relationship as per natural chart. So there is no order for the same. Except that if they are in 1:7 then they cease to become NSD’s. > > > > > > The reason for the above order is that if you notice that the last 2 are only one way, means planet comes sd to navamsa lord or nak lord so its one way. Means planet can replace the nav lord or nak lord if they are unable to give the result but not vice versa. > > > When planets are in same navamsa then they are 2 way means both can replace each other. > > > > > > Hence the distinction. > > > > > > Just try to understand the essence of the same. > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > On Behalf Of BPShiv > > > Thursday November 12, 2009 12:48 PM > > > > > > Re: Re: Practice Chart > > > > > > > > >  > > > Dear Devi Singh ji, > > > My answers are in purple. Seniors please correct my errors as this is the very basic portion of KAS that we are strengthening. > > > > > > > > > Please clarify CAPS...this is new to me? > > > > > > " 2.All Planets cojoin in sign NO " > > > By this i mean to say if two planets are in one sign in rashi chart ...for example ju and ma both are in Leo...both become samdharmi to each other....ma has low points so Ma can replace Ju > > > NO. Not in Rasi BUT YES in navamsa. If Ju and Ma are in Leo in Rasi they cannot be SD but if they are in same navamsa then they are SD. > > > In Rasi Ju and Ma have to be in the same sign AND also in the same nakshatra. > > > > > > " 6.Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO " > > > This is case where Ju is in Leo in rashi chart and Ma is in Leo in navamsa.....both are in Leo and become samdharmi > > > No. But according to lesson 25 they could be SD if they both have more points. > > > > > > " 8.Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO " > > > This is case where Ju with 5 point in Tarus and placed in 4th house....so LoD for 7th house is Ve and Ju can give result due to its placement so samdharmi to Ve ....can replace Ve > > > NO. Planet is not SD to sign Lo itself in Rasi. > > > Here in your example if you are talking about 4:10 relationship than if Ju has 5 bindus in 4th place and if Ma is in 10th place with 3 bindus than Ju can be SD to Ma provided it has more bindus. > > > > > > " 9.If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra NO " > > > This is case Ju is with Ra in rashi/navamsa.......and Ra represents Su/St......so Ju samdharmi to Su/St.....I Think this is my mistake we should not consider Ra as it does not have rulership of any sign > > > > > > > > > > > > NO. Ju is not SD to Su. > > > In this case if Ju is with Ra in rasi they are not SD. If they are in Leo that means Ra represents Su. Also we have to see nakshatra Lo that Ra is in. Say Ra is in nakshatra of Ve and from two of them whichever has more bindus Ra will represent like them. If Ve has 5 bindus and Su has 3 bindus than Ra will be more like Ve and less like Su also have to check the points in WS. > > > Now if Ra is with Ju in Sa navamsa than Ra is SD to Ju and SD to Sa. > > > To summarize this ex. Ra REPRESENTS Ve and is SD to Ju and Sa. > > > > > > " Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO " > > > I think this is again not true as per your emails and lessons as well.......rather Mo natural samdharmi to Ma.............Mo can replace Ma. > > > However i have not got root cause/main reason for this .......rather what i think is Mo can not be boss .....Please clarify or provide any means where should i look? > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes. If Ma is in navamsa of Mo than Ma is SD to Mo and Ma can fill in for Mo. > > > Also, please refer to Ash ji's msg # 20953 link. Nice update and more clarifications. > > > > > > Thank you, > > > -Bella. > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > Anup. M <dalh_1@ > > > > > > Thursday, November 12, 2009 8:48 AM > > > Re: Re: Practice Chart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Devi singh ji, > > > > > > > > > Just wait,i hope members over here will try to explain you > > > regarding your confusions. > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 12/11/09, devisigh devisingh.rajput@ wrote: > > > > > > devisigh devisingh.rajput@ > > > Re: Re: Practice Chart > > > > > > Thursday, 12 November, 2009, 7:28 PM > > > > > > Dear Anup ji, > > > > > > It is really wondering for me.....something i guess incorrect in drafting/representa tion by me...let me try one more time in better way..... > > > > > > Please clarify CAPS...this is new to me? > > > > > > " 2.All Planets cojoin in sign NO " > > > By this i mean to say if two planets are in one sign in rashi chart ...for example ju and ma both are in Leo...both become samdharmi to each other....ma has low points so Ma can replace Ju > > > > > > " 6.Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO " > > > This is case where Ju is in Leo in rashi chart and Ma is in Leo in navamsa..... both are in Leo and become samdharmi > > > > > > " 8.Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO " > > > This is case where Ju with 5 point in Tarus and placed in 4th house....so LoD for 7th house is Ve and Ju can give result due to its placement so samdharmi to Ve ....can replace Ve > > > > > > " 9.If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra NO " > > > This is case Ju is with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ......and Ra represents Su/St......so Ju samdharmi to Su/St.....I Think this is my mistake we should not consider Ra as it does not have rulership of any sign > > > > > > " Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO " > > > I think this is again not true as per your emails and lessons as well.......rather Mo natural samdharmi to Ma.......... ...Mo can replace Ma. > > > However i have not got root cause/main reason for this .......rather what i think is Mo can not be boss .....Please clarify or provide any means where should i look? > > > > > > ------------ ------ > > > Regards, > > > Devisingh > > > > > > > > > Anup. M wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Devi singh ji, > > > > > > > > > My understanding is as per CAPS below. > > > > > > Regards > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 11/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> > > > Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > Wednesday, 11 November, 2009, 6:30 PM > > > > > > Dear Anup ji, > > > > > > Thank you ....for corrections on emails.....this will keep me on track and avoiding out of track. > > > > > > If Planets in navamsa have 4:10 relation we should not consider them samdharmi that is input for me. > > > > > > Below is my understanding related to samdharmi what is gathered upto 2000 emails of achieves.... .putting here so may be help full to other members as well please have a look and comment on them where requires...i have arranged them on priority basis please provides your valuable comment for them where required > > > 1. Planets making 4:10 in rashi (offcourse boss and subordinate analogy) YES > > > 2. All Planets cojoin in sign NO > > > 3. Planet is samdharmi to Lord of nakshtra sign YES > > > 4. All Planets in same nakshatra YES > > > 5. All Planets cojoin in navamsa YES > > > 6. Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO > > > 7. Planet is samdharmi to Lord navamsa sign YES > > > 8. Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO > > > 9. If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra NO > > > 10. > > > 11. Ra is samdharmi to sign lord and navamsa lord and planet cojoin in navamsa YES > > > > > > Yes it is my mistake mo,ju,ma are not natural samdharmi as per KAS......Please forgive me i might done it knowingly but not intentionally > > > In kalpurush chart ....looking 4:10 > > > St and Ve are samdharmi to each other....can replace each other > > > Su samdharmi to Ma...Su can replace Ma YES > > > Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO > > > ------------ ------ > > > Regards, > > > Devisingh > > > > > > Anup. M wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Devi singh ji, > > > > > > > > > I think samdharmi concept is not clear somewhere in your mail > > > > > > Pleae note that .. > > > MOON AND JU ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI > > > JU AND MARS ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI. > > > > > > Also we do not consider 4:10 relation in navamsa. > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 10/11/09, devisigh <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=devisingh.rajput@ <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> > > > Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > Tuesday, 10 November, 2009, 6:56 PM > > > > > > Dear All; > > > > > > Some more thoughts to fix antra > > > > > > St full delay but st have moved 15 degree so considering 27.5-1.3=26. 3 year initial value > > > Ju aspects Hb in navamsa but is is in libra with rahu in navamsa and in nakshtra of St so it can not check to saturn so full delay no help from Ju to reduce delay as staus of Ju is not good > > > > > > no zero in SAV so no addition in delay > > > Blessing in navamsa but can not help to reduce delay > > > St is with Ra in rashi so more affilicted add delay > > > Mo aspected by Ra in rashi and St cojoin in navamsa ,As lumanaries are aspected so that will add delay > > > > > > Main dasha lord Mo is OK as karka to give 7th house events > > > > > > Mo-Mo > > > Mo LoD and Natural Samdharmi to Ju can give event > > > > > > But I think this would not be case as some what delay have to be added > > > > > > Mo-Ma > > > Ju and Ma both in cancer one in rasi and another in navamsa makes them samdharmi > > > Ju and Ma both are natural samdharmi > > > Ju and Ma 4:10 in rashi/navamsa > > > Ju LoE and high point So Event can be in 3rd sector of it. > > > > > > > > > Mo-Ra > > > Ra represnts Su/Ve....considerin g more like Ve NK FK.... and cojoin Ju in navamsa so samdahrmi to Ju > > > > > > so Event can be in 3rd sector of it.......seems not wise choice still to me > > > > > > Mo-Ju > > > Ju Can give Event in 3rd Sector on it > > > > > > will come up with more thought as gets educated to this system > > > ------------ ------ > > > Regards, > > > Devisingh > > > > > > devisigh wrote: > > > Dear Ash ji, > > > > > > Namaskar > > > > > > Sincere thanks for your words attitude intension and time. > > > > > > I am trying my all time what i can collect to study this system. > > > I guess this can takes time may be 3year (less points till that time also indicate hardwork and busy for me) Will continue my attempt/doubts hope for comments from moderators for same. > > > I am enjoying achieves thanks to Krushna,sanjay, Donna,Peter, Magritta and all very nice considering old time and situation. > > > hope that will helps me to understand and utilize system and finally to absorb root or essence of system so other all system and vedic text can be clarified with same so better results can be obtained related to timing of events. > > > Everybody is trying/pushing here only to help others using there own approach It is really appreciated GOD WILL HELP THEM WHO HELPED OTHERS > > > > > > Please find below is thought process/approach: > > > I am taking acceptance that person is not mentally retired and birth details are correct no rectification required > > > > > > Quality of 7th house: > > > * checking Ju in Libra in rashi/navamsa. ...navamsa has that...it is RK,NRK and LoE..seems not good for marriage. > > > * checking Ve nakshatra in rashi...bharni. ..ok > > > * checking Su and Ve distance in rashi...less then 43...ok > > > * checking Ve is with Ra,St or aspect in rashi/navamsa. ....Ve is with St in navamsa....spoils Ve more > > > * checking LoA,LoB,LoC, LoD,LoE in rashi.....Ve, St..Mo,Ju > > > * checking planets with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ..Sa and Ju.....St is LoC and Ju is loE for 7th house and LoA for 5th house. > > > * checking Ra aspects on house in rashi/navamsa. ..9,12,2. ..7,9,11.. 12th is HoE,2nd is HoA,9th is karak for HoA and HoC for child..7th is HB,11th is HC > > > * checking Ra aspects on planets in rashi and navamsa...Me, Su......Me 6th lord become more malefic and Su LoB for child case > > > * checking for planets with 6th/12th lord in rashi/navamsa. .... Ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord.....me is with ve in navamsa spoils ve. > > > * checking for aspects on house in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... > > > * checking for aspects on planets in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... > > > * cheking malefic aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....Ju with 5 points aspects to HoE,Ve with 6 points aspects to HB > > > * cheking benific aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....St with 2 points also LoC aspects to HB,HA and Mo aspects to HB > > > Blessings,compatibi lity,DBCE, strong house,strong planets: > > > * as usual to be looked will look another time > > > Finding significator: > > > * checking for 2nd lord in rashi......Ve is 2nd lord...Ve antra will bring more pain > > > * looking at 2,7,11 lords...ve and st....ve is with 6 points and st is with 2 points ....left st less points and left ve 2nd lord > > > * looking at 2,7,11 occupents ...me and su...me is with 7 points and su is with 4 points ...left su less points and left me 6th lord > > > * looking at 4,12 occupents... ju and ke(ju/ju)... so ju....ju is with 5 points ....considering ju ...left as in Libra and aspect malefic to HOE > > > * consider Reperesnter for Ra/Ke...Su,Ve/ Ju,Ju.... ..left Ra as alresdy left su and ve,left ke as already left ju > > > * looking at 4,12 lords....Mo, ju....considerin g moon as already left ju....mo may act......... still requires more time for me to finalise > > > > > > ------------ ------ > > > Regards, > > > Devisingh > > > > > > Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=Corner@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Devisingh ji, > > > > > > Very nice attempt. Please continue your chain of thought. > > > Try to find the antra that you think might give marriage. Just go upto antra. > > > So first compute the delay and there after start to think over the best possible period that u think can give the event. > > > However, do write your thinking process. That will help one figure out where you are going away or your confusion. > > > Well Done. > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro. ca > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=astrologyan> dtimingevents] On Behalf Of devisigh > > > Thursday November 5, 2009 6:42 AM > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart > > > > > > Dear All; > > > > > > My first attempt using KAS rules/techniques only > > > > > > 7th house marriage: > > > selecting Mo main Dasha which is with FK Ve for 7th house > > > Su and Ju seems significator from ws points for 7th house > > > other planets aspects 7th house i left them > > > Su is with Me which is 6th load makes Su samdharmi to 6th lord i left that > > > Ju having highest points and also LoE > > > now considering Ju only as strong significator which in RK and NRK and natural samdharmi to Mo which is LoD. > > > Ju does not have sight on A/B/C and is LoE can gives results > > > > > > Thinking for samdharmi of Ju > > > in navamsa Ju is with Ra ...makes Ju and Ra samdharmi > > > Ra can be thought to facilitate results for 7th house matters ........still this takes time for me to finalize > > > > > > ------------ ------ > > > Regards, > > > Devisingh > > > > > > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji, > > > > > > You are correct. It was a typo. It was good that I gave the degree of all planets so this mistake could be checked right in the begining. > > > > > > Thanks Nikhlesh ji. > > > > > > The date should be May 24th. > > > > > > 24th May 1979 > > > 4:10 AM > > > 28N40 > > > 77E13 > > > > > > Sorry about that. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=%40> , " nikhlesh mathur " <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=nikhleshmathur@ <nikhleshmathur@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sub: 24th Feb 1979, 4.10 am, 28.N.40, 77.E.13 > > > > Dear Ash ji, > > > > > > > > You said that Su is 9Ta31 for the above native. But a person born on the month of Feb cannot have his Sun in Taurus sign. It should be in Aquarius at this time. > > > > > > > > If other things are okay then I think the birth date is 24th May. > > > > > > > > Please confirm. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:47:29 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add to > > > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > 6) When > > > > can the native face health problems? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash's Corner@ [kas@ <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=kas@> ....] > > > > Monday October 26, 2009 > > > > 12:18 AM > > > > To: > > > > 'astrologyandtiming events@grou ps.com <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=%27%40> ' > > > > Practice Chart > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear > > > > Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This > > > > lady has been posting charts in various lists for many years now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is > > > > the chart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24th > > > > Feb 1979 > > > > > > > > 4:10 AM > > > > > > > > 28N40 > > > > > > > > 77E13 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From > > > > what I gather, she had an affair or liked some guy that she wanted to > > > > marry. I am not clear from her posts > > > > that if she married the same guy or not. > > > > Her parents were looking out for some proposals for her. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If this > > > > chart came blindly to you, can you predict the following. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) > > > > Marriage > > > > > > > > 2) > > > > Child birth > > > > > > > > 3) > > > > Marital Relations overall > > > > > > > > 4) > > > > She has been complaining that relations are bad after marriage and > > > > asked if she should go for divorce. > > > > > > > > 5) > > > > Why she had affair or what are the yogs for that in this chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet > > > > > > > > > > > > Degrees > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As > > > > > > > > > > > > 15 Ar 55 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Su > > > > > > > > > > > > 9 Ta 31 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mo > > > > > > > > > > > > 13 Ar 48 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ma > > > > > > > > > > > > 13 Ar 8 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Me > > > > > > > > > > > > 2 Ta 15 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ju > > > > > > > > > > > > 11 Cn 16 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ve > > > > > > > > > > > > 14 Ar 30 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sa > > > > > > > > > > > > 14 Le 35 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra > > > > > > > > > > > > 20 Le 59 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ke > > > > > > > > > > > > 20 Aq 59 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage <http://in.rd./tagline_yyi_1/*http:/in./> .. > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage <http://in.rd./tagline_yyi_1/*http:/in./> .. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See <http://in.rd./tagline_yyi_1/*http:/in./> your Homepage. > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 12, 2009 Dear Hussein ji, I have given a detailed explanation, still if you do not understand it, leave it. In due course of time, when such charts come up, it will get clear. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Hussein Thursday November 12, 2009 5:25 PM To: Subject: Re: Practice Chart Dear Ash ji Nir ji has given a good example.I think it will be clear what I say. Best Wishes Hussein , " nirvana_seeker3 " <nirvana_seeker3 wrote: > > The way I understood this is as following - > > Let's take an example. Lagna is Cancer. Jupiter is in lagna (in traditional VA, it will be considered as exalted). Saturn is in 4th house (again exalted) and Mars is in 10th in Aries (owns this sign and in kendra). In this example, according to this dictum, as I understand it is that Saturn, Jupiter and Mars will all be samdharmis. Jupiter and Mars are in 4:10 and so are Jupiter and Saturn. But Saturn and Mars are 1:7. > > Jupiter and Mars and similarly Juptier and Saturn can be explained by 4:10 theory the way you explained. However, the addition here is Saturn and Mars. > > Am I missing something? > > Nir. > > , " Ash's Corner@ " kas@ wrote: > > > > Dear Hussein ji and NS ji, > > > > Please read the sentence above that as well. > > > > “ > > (If, in the above case, planet 'A' had less points then 'B', then planet 'A' would behave in a reverse way and might give adverse results if it didn't receive more than 12 points in its final tally, as indicated in the worksheet.)†> > > > The essence of that write up is that how 4:10 is being advocated by Saravali and others. That said, in our system, we go one step further to classify the same i.e. > > > > 1) Planet in 10th place if its less than 4 bindus and Planet in 4th house from it is with more than 4 bindus > > 2) Planet in 10th place if its with more than 4 bindus and planet in 4th place from it is with less than 4 bindus > > 3) Planet in 10th place is with 4 bindus and planet in 4th place from it is with more than 4 bindus > > > > So, in all the above case there is a very big difference on how the result will be. In the 1st case both planets will give good result as they will become very powerful SD as there is power transfer and in the WS the power will go up for all 12 house for the planet in 10th house that controls the planet in 4th house so in both antras result will be good. > > > > In second case, there is opposition. Planet in 10th place is with more than 4 bindus so its in House D for the 4th house from it so it will give the event or become eager but the planet in the 4th place will oppose the karaktwa of the planet in 10th place so during the antras very different results will be there. > > > > In the 3rd case, if the planet in 10th place is LoD or LoE then it will control the planet and will act like case 1 but for the house that it is not LoD or LoE it will not become SD and there will be no power transfer as there will not be any control of planet in 10th place on the planet in 4th place from it. > > > > Please understand this. > > > > Now since we are talking about 4:10 then our focus is on case 1 given above as we are studying positive things and trying to give the person who comes to u for getting a reading some hope. But it does not mean that other 2 scenarios are not there. > > > > Please do not get confused about this and get concept firm in your mind. So in case 1 only they will become mutual karaks means they can replace each other and in KAS terminology they become Samdharmi and that too 2 way means that both can replace each other. But only for case 1 and for case 3 in case the lord in 10th place is LoD or LoE for those house it will become SD with power transfer. But for case 2, it will be reverse effect. Planet in 4th place will oppose planet in 10th place and one will get the result accordingly. > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > On Behalf Of Hussein > > Thursday November 12, 2009 3:44 PM > > > > Re: Practice Chart > > > > > > Dear Ash ji > > > > Anup ji had sent a text which Guru ji had explained SD rules there maybe in a class or worlshop(( 15th Aug 2008 2nd)).Anup ji sent this as a message in the group.I've saved that lessson as word file but don't know the number of message. > > > > Here is that rule: > > > > " > > Sloka 6: > > There is a reference in Saravali regarding two planets in Kendras (angle houses †" 1, 4, 7, 10), becoming mutual significators. We have a similar law in this system also. > > > > Saravali Chapter 6 sloka - 1, 2 and 3: > > > > Swarkshatrikonntund astha yadi kendreshu sansthitaI > > Anyonyam karakste syu: kendreshvev harermtamII 1II > > > > Ravitanyo jookstha: kulirlagne bruhaspatihimanshuI > > Meshe kujo raviyut: pararsparm karaka ete II2II > > > > Tungsuhrutkhgruhnas he stitha gruha: karaka: samakhyata:I > > Meshurane ch raviriti visheshto vakti chanakya: II 3II > > > > > > MEANING: When two planets are in a Kendra and are exalted or own the house they are in, they become mutual karakas or significators. In the above sloka, Acharya Vishnugupt says that this happens only with respect to Kendras. One example, (as illustrated in Fig.37) for the Cancer lagna is given, with Saturn in Libra, the Moon and Jupiter in the lagna, Sun and Mars in Aries. In this case, all of them became mutual karakas. Similarly, some authors say that planets that are mutually angular though not necessarily from the ascendant are also mutual significators. For our purposes, when two planets are exalted or own the Kendra house they are in, making them mutual karakas, this is also a phenomenon that we use in this system. > > > > Best Wishes > > > > Hussein > > , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Hussein ji? > > > > > > What law is that????? Please explain or show me the mail number so I can read that and understand what context? > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > On Behalf Of Hussein > > > Thursday November 12, 2009 2:49 PM > > > > > > Re: Practice Chart > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash ji > > > > > > I think another rule which is available for SDs is that :the planets which are in the exaltation sign or > > > > > > are in their own kendra are SD for each other. > > > > > > Best Wishes > > > > > > Hussein > > > , " Ash's Corner@ " kas@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bella ji, > > > > > > > > Just one small correction from my side on my earlier mail. > > > > > > > > The order or SD will be > > > > > > > > 1) 4:10 > > > > 2) Same Sign & Nak > > > > 3) Same Navamsa > > > > 4) Navamsa lord > > > > 5) Nakshatra lord. > > > > > > > > NSD if they get a chance they will give, that depends on fixed relationship as per natural chart. So there is no order for the same. Except that if they are in 1:7 then they cease to become NSD’s. > > > > > > > > The reason for the above order is that if you notice that the last 2 are only one way, means planet comes sd to navamsa lord or nak lord so its one way. Means planet can replace the nav lord or nak lord if they are unable to give the result but not vice versa. > > > > When planets are in same navamsa then they are 2 way means both can replace each other. > > > > > > > > Hence the distinction. > > > > > > > > Just try to understand the essence of the same. > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of BPShiv > > > > Thursday November 12, 2009 12:48 PM > > > > > > > > Re: Re: Practice Chart > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > Dear Devi Singh ji, > > > > My answers are in purple. Seniors please correct my errors as this is the very basic portion of KAS that we are strengthening. > > > > > > > > > > > > Please clarify CAPS...this is new to me? > > > > > > > > " 2.All Planets cojoin in sign NO " > > > > By this i mean to say if two planets are in one sign in rashi chart ...for example ju and ma both are in Leo...both become samdharmi to each other....ma has low points so Ma can replace Ju > > > > NO. Not in Rasi BUT YES in navamsa. If Ju and Ma are in Leo in Rasi they cannot be SD but if they are in same navamsa then they are SD. > > > > In Rasi Ju and Ma have to be in the same sign AND also in the same nakshatra. > > > > > > > > " 6.Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO " > > > > This is case where Ju is in Leo in rashi chart and Ma is in Leo in navamsa.....both are in Leo and become samdharmi > > > > No. But according to lesson 25 they could be SD if they both have more points. > > > > > > > > " 8.Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO " > > > > This is case where Ju with 5 point in Tarus and placed in 4th house....so LoD for 7th house is Ve and Ju can give result due to its placement so samdharmi to Ve ....can replace Ve > > > > NO. Planet is not SD to sign Lo itself in Rasi. > > > > Here in your example if you are talking about 4:10 relationship than if Ju has 5 bindus in 4th place and if Ma is in 10th place with 3 bindus than Ju can be SD to Ma provided it has more bindus. > > > > > > > > " 9.If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra NO " > > > > This is case Ju is with Ra in rashi/navamsa.......and Ra represents Su/St......so Ju samdharmi to Su/St.....I Think this is my mistake we should not consider Ra as it does not have rulership of any sign > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NO. Ju is not SD to Su. > > > > In this case if Ju is with Ra in rasi they are not SD. If they are in Leo that means Ra represents Su. Also we have to see nakshatra Lo that Ra is in. Say Ra is in nakshatra of Ve and from two of them whichever has more bindus Ra will represent like them. If Ve has 5 bindus and Su has 3 bindus than Ra will be more like Ve and less like Su also have to check the points in WS. > > > > Now if Ra is with Ju in Sa navamsa than Ra is SD to Ju and SD to Sa. > > > > To summarize this ex. Ra REPRESENTS Ve and is SD to Ju and Sa. > > > > > > > > " Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO " > > > > I think this is again not true as per your emails and lessons as well.......rather Mo natural samdharmi to Ma.............Mo can replace Ma. > > > > However i have not got root cause/main reason for this .......rather what i think is Mo can not be boss .....Please clarify or provide any means where should i look? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes. If Ma is in navamsa of Mo than Ma is SD to Mo and Ma can fill in for Mo. > > > > Also, please refer to Ash ji's msg # 20953 link. Nice update and more clarifications. > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > -Bella. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > Anup. M <dalh_1@ > > > > > > > > Thursday, November 12, 2009 8:48 AM > > > > Re: Re: Practice Chart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Devi singh ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Just wait,i hope members over here will try to explain you > > > > regarding your confusions. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 12/11/09, devisigh devisingh.rajput@ wrote: > > > > > > > > devisigh devisingh.rajput@ > > > > Re: Re: Practice Chart > > > > > > > > Thursday, 12 November, 2009, 7:28 PM > > > > > > > > Dear Anup ji, > > > > > > > > It is really wondering for me.....something i guess incorrect in drafting/representa tion by me...let me try one more time in better way..... > > > > > > > > Please clarify CAPS...this is new to me? > > > > > > > > " 2.All Planets cojoin in sign NO " > > > > By this i mean to say if two planets are in one sign in rashi chart ...for example ju and ma both are in Leo...both become samdharmi to each other....ma has low points so Ma can replace Ju > > > > > > > > " 6.Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO " > > > > This is case where Ju is in Leo in rashi chart and Ma is in Leo in navamsa..... both are in Leo and become samdharmi > > > > > > > > " 8.Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO " > > > > This is case where Ju with 5 point in Tarus and placed in 4th house....so LoD for 7th house is Ve and Ju can give result due to its placement so samdharmi to Ve ....can replace Ve > > > > > > > > " 9.If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra NO " > > > > This is case Ju is with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ......and Ra represents Su/St......so Ju samdharmi to Su/St.....I Think this is my mistake we should not consider Ra as it does not have rulership of any sign > > > > > > > > " Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO " > > > > I think this is again not true as per your emails and lessons as well.......rather Mo natural samdharmi to Ma.......... ...Mo can replace Ma. > > > > However i have not got root cause/main reason for this .......rather what i think is Mo can not be boss .....Please clarify or provide any means where should i look? > > > > > > > > ------------ ------ > > > > Regards, > > > > Devisingh > > > > > > > > > > > > Anup. M wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Devi singh ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > My understanding is as per CAPS below. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 11/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> > > > > Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > > Wednesday, 11 November, 2009, 6:30 PM > > > > > > > > Dear Anup ji, > > > > > > > > Thank you ....for corrections on emails.....this will keep me on track and avoiding out of track. > > > > > > > > If Planets in navamsa have 4:10 relation we should not consider them samdharmi that is input for me. > > > > > > > > Below is my understanding related to samdharmi what is gathered upto 2000 emails of achieves.... .putting here so may be help full to other members as well please have a look and comment on them where requires...i have arranged them on priority basis please provides your valuable comment for them where required > > > > 1. Planets making 4:10 in rashi (offcourse boss and subordinate analogy) YES > > > > 2. All Planets cojoin in sign NO > > > > 3. Planet is samdharmi to Lord of nakshtra sign YES > > > > 4. All Planets in same nakshatra YES > > > > 5. All Planets cojoin in navamsa YES > > > > 6. Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO > > > > 7. Planet is samdharmi to Lord navamsa sign YES > > > > 8. Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO > > > > 9. If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra NO > > > > 10. > > > > 11. Ra is samdharmi to sign lord and navamsa lord and planet cojoin in navamsa YES > > > > > > > > Yes it is my mistake mo,ju,ma are not natural samdharmi as per KAS......Please forgive me i might done it knowingly but not intentionally > > > > In kalpurush chart ....looking 4:10 > > > > St and Ve are samdharmi to each other....can replace each other > > > > Su samdharmi to Ma...Su can replace Ma YES > > > > Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO > > > > ------------ ------ > > > > Regards, > > > > Devisingh > > > > > > > > Anup. M wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Devi singh ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > I think samdharmi concept is not clear somewhere in your mail > > > > > > > > Pleae note that .. > > > > MOON AND JU ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI > > > > JU AND MARS ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI. > > > > > > > > Also we do not consider 4:10 relation in navamsa. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 10/11/09, devisigh <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=devisingh.rajput@ <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> > > > > Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > > Tuesday, 10 November, 2009, 6:56 PM > > > > > > > > Dear All; > > > > > > > > Some more thoughts to fix antra > > > > > > > > St full delay but st have moved 15 degree so considering 27.5-1.3=26. 3 year initial value > > > > Ju aspects Hb in navamsa but is is in libra with rahu in navamsa and in nakshtra of St so it can not check to saturn so full delay no help from Ju to reduce delay as staus of Ju is not good > > > > > > > > no zero in SAV so no addition in delay > > > > Blessing in navamsa but can not help to reduce delay > > > > St is with Ra in rashi so more affilicted add delay > > > > Mo aspected by Ra in rashi and St cojoin in navamsa ,As lumanaries are aspected so that will add delay > > > > > > > > Main dasha lord Mo is OK as karka to give 7th house events > > > > > > > > Mo-Mo > > > > Mo LoD and Natural Samdharmi to Ju can give event > > > > > > > > But I think this would not be case as some what delay have to be added > > > > > > > > Mo-Ma > > > > Ju and Ma both in cancer one in rasi and another in navamsa makes them samdharmi > > > > Ju and Ma both are natural samdharmi > > > > Ju and Ma 4:10 in rashi/navamsa > > > > Ju LoE and high point So Event can be in 3rd sector of it. > > > > > > > > > > > > Mo-Ra > > > > Ra represnts Su/Ve....considerin g more like Ve NK FK.... and cojoin Ju in navamsa so samdahrmi to Ju > > > > > > > > so Event can be in 3rd sector of it.......seems not wise choice still to me > > > > > > > > Mo-Ju > > > > Ju Can give Event in 3rd Sector on it > > > > > > > > will come up with more thought as gets educated to this system > > > > ------------ ------ > > > > Regards, > > > > Devisingh > > > > > > > > devisigh wrote: > > > > Dear Ash ji, > > > > > > > > Namaskar > > > > > > > > Sincere thanks for your words attitude intension and time. > > > > > > > > I am trying my all time what i can collect to study this system. > > > > I guess this can takes time may be 3year (less points till that time also indicate hardwork and busy for me) Will continue my attempt/doubts hope for comments from moderators for same. > > > > I am enjoying achieves thanks to Krushna,sanjay, Donna,Peter, Magritta and all very nice considering old time and situation. > > > > hope that will helps me to understand and utilize system and finally to absorb root or essence of system so other all system and vedic text can be clarified with same so better results can be obtained related to timing of events. > > > > Everybody is trying/pushing here only to help others using there own approach It is really appreciated GOD WILL HELP THEM WHO HELPED OTHERS > > > > > > > > Please find below is thought process/approach: > > > > I am taking acceptance that person is not mentally retired and birth details are correct no rectification required > > > > > > > > Quality of 7th house: > > > > * checking Ju in Libra in rashi/navamsa. ...navamsa has that...it is RK,NRK and LoE..seems not good for marriage. > > > > * checking Ve nakshatra in rashi...bharni. ..ok > > > > * checking Su and Ve distance in rashi...less then 43...ok > > > > * checking Ve is with Ra,St or aspect in rashi/navamsa. .....Ve is with St in navamsa....spoils Ve more > > > > * checking LoA,LoB,LoC, LoD,LoE in rashi.....Ve, St..Mo,Ju > > > > * checking planets with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ..Sa and Ju.....St is LoC and Ju is loE for 7th house and LoA for 5th house. > > > > * checking Ra aspects on house in rashi/navamsa. ..9,12,2. ..7,9,11.. 12th is HoE,2nd is HoA,9th is karak for HoA and HoC for child..7th is HB,11th is HC > > > > * checking Ra aspects on planets in rashi and navamsa...Me, Su......Me 6th lord become more malefic and Su LoB for child case > > > > * checking for planets with 6th/12th lord in rashi/navamsa. ..... Ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord.....me is with ve in navamsa spoils ve. > > > > * checking for aspects on house in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... > > > > * checking for aspects on planets in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... > > > > * cheking malefic aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....Ju with 5 points aspects to HoE,Ve with 6 points aspects to HB > > > > * cheking benific aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....St with 2 points also LoC aspects to HB,HA and Mo aspects to HB > > > > Blessings,compatibi lity,DBCE, strong house,strong planets: > > > > * as usual to be looked will look another time > > > > Finding significator: > > > > * checking for 2nd lord in rashi......Ve is 2nd lord...Ve antra will bring more pain > > > > * looking at 2,7,11 lords...ve and st....ve is with 6 points and st is with 2 points ....left st less points and left ve 2nd lord > > > > * looking at 2,7,11 occupents ...me and su...me is with 7 points and su is with 4 points ...left su less points and left me 6th lord > > > > * looking at 4,12 occupents... ju and ke(ju/ju)... so ju....ju is with 5 points ....considering ju ...left as in Libra and aspect malefic to HOE > > > > * consider Reperesnter for Ra/Ke...Su,Ve/ Ju,Ju.... ..left Ra as alresdy left su and ve,left ke as already left ju > > > > * looking at 4,12 lords....Mo, ju....considerin g moon as already left ju....mo may act......... still requires more time for me to finalise > > > > > > > > ------------ ------ > > > > Regards, > > > > Devisingh > > > > > > > > Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=Corner@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Devisingh ji, > > > > > > > > Very nice attempt. Please continue your chain of thought. > > > > Try to find the antra that you think might give marriage. Just go upto antra. > > > > So first compute the delay and there after start to think over the best possible period that u think can give the event. > > > > However, do write your thinking process. That will help one figure out where you are going away or your confusion. > > > > Well Done. > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro. ca > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=astrologyan> dtimingevents] On Behalf Of devisigh > > > > Thursday November 5, 2009 6:42 AM > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > > Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart > > > > > > > > Dear All; > > > > > > > > My first attempt using KAS rules/techniques only > > > > > > > > 7th house marriage: > > > > selecting Mo main Dasha which is with FK Ve for 7th house > > > > Su and Ju seems significator from ws points for 7th house > > > > other planets aspects 7th house i left them > > > > Su is with Me which is 6th load makes Su samdharmi to 6th lord i left that > > > > Ju having highest points and also LoE > > > > now considering Ju only as strong significator which in RK and NRK and natural samdharmi to Mo which is LoD. > > > > Ju does not have sight on A/B/C and is LoE can gives results > > > > > > > > Thinking for samdharmi of Ju > > > > in navamsa Ju is with Ra ...makes Ju and Ra samdharmi > > > > Ra can be thought to facilitate results for 7th house matters .......still this takes time for me to finalize > > > > > > > > ------------ ------ > > > > Regards, > > > > Devisingh > > > > > > > > > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji, > > > > > > > > You are correct. It was a typo. It was good that I gave the degree of all planets so this mistake could be checked right in the begining. > > > > > > > > Thanks Nikhlesh ji. > > > > > > > > The date should be May 24th. > > > > > > > > 24th May 1979 > > > > 4:10 AM > > > > 28N40 > > > > 77E13 > > > > > > > > Sorry about that. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=%40> , " nikhlesh mathur " <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=nikhleshmathur@ <nikhleshmathur@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sub: 24th Feb 1979, 4.10 am, 28.N.40, 77.E.13 > > > > > Dear Ash ji, > > > > > > > > > > You said that Su is 9Ta31 for the above native. But a person born on the month of Feb cannot have his Sun in Taurus sign. It should be in Aquarius at this time. > > > > > > > > > > If other things are okay then I think the birth date is 24th May. > > > > > > > > > > Please confirm. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:47:29 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add to > > > > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6) When > > > > > can the native face health problems? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash's Corner@ [kas@ <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=kas@> ....] > > > > > Monday October 26, 2009 > > > > > 12:18 AM > > > > > To: > > > > > 'astrologyandtiming events@grou ps.com <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=%27%40> ' > > > > > Practice Chart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear > > > > > Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This > > > > > lady has been posting charts in various lists for many years now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is > > > > > the chart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24th > > > > > Feb 1979 > > > > > > > > > > 4:10 AM > > > > > > > > > > 28N40 > > > > > > > > > > 77E13 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From > > > > > what I gather, she had an affair or liked some guy that she wanted to > > > > > marry. I am not clear from her posts > > > > > that if she married the same guy or not. > > > > > Her parents were looking out for some proposals for her. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If this > > > > > chart came blindly to you, can you predict the following. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) > > > > > Marriage > > > > > > > > > > 2) > > > > > Child birth > > > > > > > > > > 3) > > > > > Marital Relations overall > > > > > > > > > > 4) > > > > > She has been complaining that relations are bad after marriage and > > > > > asked if she should go for divorce. > > > > > > > > > > 5) > > > > > Why she had affair or what are the yogs for that in this chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Degrees > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 15 Ar 55 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Su > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9 Ta 31 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 13 Ar 48 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 13 Ar 8 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Me > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2 Ta 15 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ju > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11 Cn 16 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 14 Ar 30 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 14 Le 35 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 20 Le 59 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ke > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 20 Aq 59 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage <http://in.rd./tagline_yyi_1/*http:/in./> . > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage <http://in.rd./tagline_yyi_1/*http:/in./> . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See <http://in.rd./tagline_yyi_1/*http:/in./> your Homepage. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 12, 2009 Can you tell me what is it that I am missing, and can you help me understand the concept. The only confusing part is the combination of Saturn and Mars in the example I gave. Others I understand as per your explanation. Thanks, Nir. , " Ash's Corner " <kas wrote: > > Yes you are. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > On Behalf Of nirvana_seeker3 > Thursday November 12, 2009 5:06 PM > > Re: Practice Chart > > > The way I understood this is as following - > > Let's take an example. Lagna is Cancer. Jupiter is in lagna (in traditional VA, it will be considered as exalted). Saturn is in 4th house (again exalted) and Mars is in 10th in Aries (owns this sign and in kendra). In this example, according to this dictum, as I understand it is that Saturn, Jupiter and Mars will all be samdharmis. Jupiter and Mars are in 4:10 and so are Jupiter and Saturn. But Saturn and Mars are 1:7. > > Jupiter and Mars and similarly Juptier and Saturn can be explained by 4:10 theory the way you explained. However, the addition here is Saturn and Mars. > > Am I missing something? > > Nir. > > <%40> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> wrote: > > > > Dear Hussein ji and NS ji, > > > > Please read the sentence above that as well. > > > >  " > > (If, in the above case, planet 'A' had less points then 'B', then planet 'A' would behave in a reverse way and might give adverse results if it didn't receive more than 12 points in its final tally, as indicated in the worksheet.)†> > > > The essence of that write up is that how 4:10 is being advocated by Saravali and others. That said, in our system, we go one step further to classify the same i.e. > > > > 1) Planet in 10th place if its less than 4 bindus and Planet in 4th house from it is with more than 4 bindus > > 2) Planet in 10th place if its with more than 4 bindus and planet in 4th place from it is with less than 4 bindus > > 3) Planet in 10th place is with 4 bindus and planet in 4th place from it is with more than 4 bindus > > > > So, in all the above case there is a very big difference on how the result will be. In the 1st case both planets will give good result as they will become very powerful SD as there is power transfer and in the WS the power will go up for all 12 house for the planet in 10th house that controls the planet in 4th house so in both antras result will be good. > > > > In second case, there is opposition. Planet in 10th place is with more than 4 bindus so its in House D for the 4th house from it so it will give the event or become eager but the planet in the 4th place will oppose the karaktwa of the planet in 10th place so during the antras very different results will be there. > > > > In the 3rd case, if the planet in 10th place is LoD or LoE then it will control the planet and will act like case 1 but for the house that it is not LoD or LoE it will not become SD and there will be no power transfer as there will not be any control of planet in 10th place on the planet in 4th place from it. > > > > Please understand this. > > > > Now since we are talking about 4:10 then our focus is on case 1 given above as we are studying positive things and trying to give the person who comes to u for getting a reading some hope. But it does not mean that other 2 scenarios are not there. > > > > Please do not get confused about this and get concept firm in your mind. So in case 1 only they will become mutual karaks means they can replace each other and in KAS terminology they become Samdharmi and that too 2 way means that both can replace each other. But only for case 1 and for case 3 in case the lord in 10th place is LoD or LoE for those house it will become SD with power transfer. But for case 2, it will be reverse effect. Planet in 4th place will oppose planet in 10th place and one will get the result accordingly. > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > <%40> [ <%40> ] On Behalf Of Hussein > > Thursday November 12, 2009 3:44 PM > > <%40> > > Re: Practice Chart > > > > > > Dear Ash ji > > > > Anup ji had sent a text which Guru ji had explained SD rules there maybe in a class or worlshop(( 15th Aug 2008 2nd)).Anup ji sent this as a message in the group.I've saved that lessson as word file but don't know the number of message. > > > > Here is that rule: > > > > " > > Sloka 6: > > There is a reference in Saravali regarding two planets in Kendras (angle houses †" 1, 4, 7, 10), becoming mutual significators. We have a similar law in this system also. > > > > Saravali Chapter 6 sloka - 1, 2 and 3: > > > > Swarkshatrikonntund astha yadi kendreshu sansthitaI > > Anyonyam karakste syu: kendreshvev harermtamII 1II > > > > Ravitanyo jookstha: kulirlagne bruhaspatihimanshuI > > Meshe kujo raviyut: pararsparm karaka ete II2II > > > > Tungsuhrutkhgruhnas he stitha gruha: karaka: samakhyata:I > > Meshurane ch raviriti visheshto vakti chanakya: II 3II > > > > > > MEANING: When two planets are in a Kendra and are exalted or own the house they are in, they become mutual karakas or significators. In the above sloka, Acharya Vishnugupt says that this happens only with respect to Kendras. One example, (as illustrated in Fig.37) for the Cancer lagna is given, with Saturn in Libra, the Moon and Jupiter in the lagna, Sun and Mars in Aries. In this case, all of them became mutual karakas. Similarly, some authors say that planets that are mutually angular though not necessarily from the ascendant are also mutual significators. For our purposes, when two planets are exalted or own the Kendra house they are in, making them mutual karakas, this is also a phenomenon that we use in this system. > > > > Best Wishes > > > > Hussein > > <%40> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Hussein ji? > > > > > > What law is that????? Please explain or show me the mail number so I can read that and understand what context? > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > <%40> [ <%40> ] On Behalf Of Hussein > > > Thursday November 12, 2009 2:49 PM > > > <%40> > > > Re: Practice Chart > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash ji > > > > > > I think another rule which is available for SDs is that :the planets which are in the exaltation sign or > > > > > > are in their own kendra are SD for each other. > > > > > > Best Wishes > > > > > > Hussein > > > <%40> , " Ash's Corner@ " kas@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bella ji, > > > > > > > > Just one small correction from my side on my earlier mail. > > > > > > > > The order or SD will be > > > > > > > > 1) 4:10 > > > > 2) Same Sign & Nak > > > > 3) Same Navamsa > > > > 4) Navamsa lord > > > > 5) Nakshatra lord. > > > > > > > > NSD if they get a chance they will give, that depends on fixed relationship as per natural chart. So there is no order for the same. Except that if they are in 1:7 then they cease to become NSDÃÆ'¢â‚¬â„¢s. > > > > > > > > The reason for the above order is that if you notice that the last 2 are only one way, means planet comes sd to navamsa lord or nak lord so its one way. Means planet can replace the nav lord or nak lord if they are unable to give the result but not vice versa. > > > > When planets are in same navamsa then they are 2 way means both can replace each other. > > > > > > > > Hence the distinction. > > > > > > > > Just try to understand the essence of the same. > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > <%40> [ <%40> ] On Behalf Of BPShiv > > > > Thursday November 12, 2009 12:48 PM > > > > <%40> > > > > Re: Re: Practice Chart > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'¯Â»Â¿ > > > > Dear Devi Singh ji, > > > > My answers are in purple. Seniors please correct my errors as this is the very basic portion of KAS that we are strengthening. > > > > > > > > > > > > Please clarify CAPS...this is new to me? > > > > > > > > " 2.All Planets cojoin in sign NO " > > > > By this i mean to say if two planets are in one sign in rashi chart ....for example ju and ma both are in Leo...both become samdharmi to each other....ma has low points so Ma can replace Ju > > > > NO. Not in Rasi BUT YES in navamsa. If Ju and Ma are in Leo in Rasi they cannot be SD but if they are in same navamsa then they are SD. > > > > In Rasi Ju and Ma have to be in the same sign AND also in the same nakshatra. > > > > > > > > " 6.Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO " > > > > This is case where Ju is in Leo in rashi chart and Ma is in Leo in navamsa.....both are in Leo and become samdharmi > > > > No. But according to lesson 25 they could be SD if they both have more points. > > > > > > > > " 8.Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO " > > > > This is case where Ju with 5 point in Tarus and placed in 4th house....so LoD for 7th house is Ve and Ju can give result due to its placement so samdharmi to Ve ....can replace Ve > > > > NO. Planet is not SD to sign Lo itself in Rasi. > > > > Here in your example if you are talking about 4:10 relationship than if Ju has 5 bindus in 4th place and if Ma is in 10th place with 3 bindus than Ju can be SD to Ma provided it has more bindus. > > > > > > > > " 9.If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra NO " > > > > This is case Ju is with Ra in rashi/navamsa.......and Ra represents Su/St......so Ju samdharmi to Su/St.....I Think this is my mistake we should not consider Ra as it does not have rulership of any sign > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NO. Ju is not SD to Su. > > > > In this case if Ju is with Ra in rasi they are not SD. If they are in Leo that means Ra represents Su. Also we have to see nakshatra Lo that Ra is in. Say Ra is in nakshatra of Ve and from two of them whichever has more bindus Ra will represent like them. If Ve has 5 bindus and Su has 3 bindus than Ra will be more like Ve and less like Su also have to check the points in WS. > > > > Now if Ra is with Ju in Sa navamsa than Ra is SD to Ju and SD to Sa. > > > > To summarize this ex. Ra REPRESENTS Ve and is SD to Ju and Sa. > > > > > > > > " Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO " > > > > I think this is again not true as per your emails and lessons as well.......rather Mo natural samdharmi to Ma.............Mo can replace Ma. > > > > However i have not got root cause/main reason for this ......rather what i think is Mo can not be boss .....Please clarify or provide any means where should i look? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes. If Ma is in navamsa of Mo than Ma is SD to Mo and Ma can fill in for Mo. > > > > Also, please refer to Ash ji's msg # 20953 link. Nice update and more clarifications. > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > -Bella. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > Anup. M <dalh_1@ > > > > <%40> > > > > Thursday, November 12, 2009 8:48 AM > > > > Re: Re: Practice Chart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Devi singh ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Just wait,i hope members over here will try to explain you > > > > regarding your confusions. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 12/11/09, devisigh devisingh.rajput@ wrote: > > > > > > > > devisigh devisingh.rajput@ > > > > Re: Re: Practice Chart > > > > <%40> > > > > Thursday, 12 November, 2009, 7:28 PM > > > > > > > > Dear Anup ji, > > > > > > > > It is really wondering for me.....something i guess incorrect in drafting/representa tion by me...let me try one more time in better way..... > > > > > > > > Please clarify CAPS...this is new to me? > > > > > > > > " 2.All Planets cojoin in sign NO " > > > > By this i mean to say if two planets are in one sign in rashi chart ....for example ju and ma both are in Leo...both become samdharmi to each other....ma has low points so Ma can replace Ju > > > > > > > > " 6.Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO " > > > > This is case where Ju is in Leo in rashi chart and Ma is in Leo in navamsa..... both are in Leo and become samdharmi > > > > > > > > " 8.Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO " > > > > This is case where Ju with 5 point in Tarus and placed in 4th house....so LoD for 7th house is Ve and Ju can give result due to its placement so samdharmi to Ve ....can replace Ve > > > > > > > > " 9.If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra NO " > > > > This is case Ju is with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ......and Ra represents Su/St......so Ju samdharmi to Su/St.....I Think this is my mistake we should not consider Ra as it does not have rulership of any sign > > > > > > > > " Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO " > > > > I think this is again not true as per your emails and lessons as well.......rather Mo natural samdharmi to Ma.......... ...Mo can replace Ma. > > > > However i have not got root cause/main reason for this ......rather what i think is Mo can not be boss .....Please clarify or provide any means where should i look? > > > > > > > > ------------ ------ > > > > Regards, > > > > Devisingh > > > > > > > > > > > > Anup. M wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Devi singh ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > My understanding is as per CAPS below. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 11/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> > > > > Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > > Wednesday, 11 November, 2009, 6:30 PM > > > > > > > > Dear Anup ji, > > > > > > > > Thank you ....for corrections on emails.....this will keep me on track and avoiding out of track. > > > > > > > > If Planets in navamsa have 4:10 relation we should not consider them samdharmi that is input for me. > > > > > > > > Below is my understanding related to samdharmi what is gathered upto 2000 emails of achieves.... .putting here so may be help full to other members as well please have a look and comment on them where requires...i have arranged them on priority basis please provides your valuable comment for them where required > > > > 1. Planets making 4:10 in rashi (offcourse boss and subordinate analogy) YES > > > > 2. All Planets cojoin in sign NO > > > > 3. Planet is samdharmi to Lord of nakshtra sign YES > > > > 4. All Planets in same nakshatra YES > > > > 5. All Planets cojoin in navamsa YES > > > > 6. Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO > > > > 7. Planet is samdharmi to Lord navamsa sign YES > > > > 8. Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO > > > > 9. If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra NO > > > > 10. > > > > 11. Ra is samdharmi to sign lord and navamsa lord and planet cojoin in navamsa YES > > > > > > > > Yes it is my mistake mo,ju,ma are not natural samdharmi as per KAS......Please forgive me i might done it knowingly but not intentionally > > > > In kalpurush chart ....looking 4:10 > > > > St and Ve are samdharmi to each other....can replace each other > > > > Su samdharmi to Ma...Su can replace Ma YES > > > > Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO > > > > ------------ ------ > > > > Regards, > > > > Devisingh > > > > > > > > Anup. M wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Devi singh ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > I think samdharmi concept is not clear somewhere in your mail > > > > > > > > Pleae note that .. > > > > MOON AND JU ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI > > > > JU AND MARS ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI. > > > > > > > > Also we do not consider 4:10 relation in navamsa. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 10/11/09, devisigh <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=devisingh.rajput@ <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> > > > > Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > > Tuesday, 10 November, 2009, 6:56 PM > > > > > > > > Dear All; > > > > > > > > Some more thoughts to fix antra > > > > > > > > St full delay but st have moved 15 degree so considering 27.5-1.3=26. 3 year initial value > > > > Ju aspects Hb in navamsa but is is in libra with rahu in navamsa and in nakshtra of St so it can not check to saturn so full delay no help from Ju to reduce delay as staus of Ju is not good > > > > > > > > no zero in SAV so no addition in delay > > > > Blessing in navamsa but can not help to reduce delay > > > > St is with Ra in rashi so more affilicted add delay > > > > Mo aspected by Ra in rashi and St cojoin in navamsa ,As lumanaries are aspected so that will add delay > > > > > > > > Main dasha lord Mo is OK as karka to give 7th house events > > > > > > > > Mo-Mo > > > > Mo LoD and Natural Samdharmi to Ju can give event > > > > > > > > But I think this would not be case as some what delay have to be added > > > > > > > > Mo-Ma > > > > Ju and Ma both in cancer one in rasi and another in navamsa makes them samdharmi > > > > Ju and Ma both are natural samdharmi > > > > Ju and Ma 4:10 in rashi/navamsa > > > > Ju LoE and high point So Event can be in 3rd sector of it. > > > > > > > > > > > > Mo-Ra > > > > Ra represnts Su/Ve....considerin g more like Ve NK FK.... and cojoin Ju in navamsa so samdahrmi to Ju > > > > > > > > so Event can be in 3rd sector of it.......seems not wise choice still to me > > > > > > > > Mo-Ju > > > > Ju Can give Event in 3rd Sector on it > > > > > > > > will come up with more thought as gets educated to this system > > > > ------------ ------ > > > > Regards, > > > > Devisingh > > > > > > > > devisigh wrote: > > > > Dear Ash ji, > > > > > > > > Namaskar > > > > > > > > Sincere thanks for your words attitude intension and time. > > > > > > > > I am trying my all time what i can collect to study this system. > > > > I guess this can takes time may be 3year (less points till that time also indicate hardwork and busy for me) Will continue my attempt/doubts hope for comments from moderators for same. > > > > I am enjoying achieves thanks to Krushna,sanjay, Donna,Peter, Magritta and all very nice considering old time and situation. > > > > hope that will helps me to understand and utilize system and finally to absorb root or essence of system so other all system and vedic text can be clarified with same so better results can be obtained related to timing of events. > > > > Everybody is trying/pushing here only to help others using there own approach It is really appreciated GOD WILL HELP THEM WHO HELPED OTHERS > > > > > > > > Please find below is thought process/approach: > > > > I am taking acceptance that person is not mentally retired and birth details are correct no rectification required > > > > > > > > Quality of 7th house: > > > > * checking Ju in Libra in rashi/navamsa. ...navamsa has that...it is RK,NRK and LoE..seems not good for marriage. > > > > * checking Ve nakshatra in rashi...bharni. ..ok > > > > * checking Su and Ve distance in rashi...less then 43...ok > > > > * checking Ve is with Ra,St or aspect in rashi/navamsa. ....Ve is with St in navamsa....spoils Ve more > > > > * checking LoA,LoB,LoC, LoD,LoE in rashi.....Ve, St..Mo,Ju > > > > * checking planets with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ..Sa and Ju.....St is LoC and Ju is loE for 7th house and LoA for 5th house. > > > > * checking Ra aspects on house in rashi/navamsa. ..9,12,2. .7,9,11.. 12th is HoE,2nd is HoA,9th is karak for HoA and HoC for child..7th is HB,11th is HC > > > > * checking Ra aspects on planets in rashi and navamsa...Me, Su......Me 6th lord become more malefic and Su LoB for child case > > > > * checking for planets with 6th/12th lord in rashi/navamsa. .... Ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord.....me is with ve in navamsa spoils ve. > > > > * checking for aspects on house in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... > > > > * checking for aspects on planets in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... > > > > * cheking malefic aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....Ju with 5 points aspects to HoE,Ve with 6 points aspects to HB > > > > * cheking benific aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....St with 2 points also LoC aspects to HB,HA and Mo aspects to HB > > > > Blessings,compatibi lity,DBCE, strong house,strong planets: > > > > * as usual to be looked will look another time > > > > Finding significator: > > > > * checking for 2nd lord in rashi......Ve is 2nd lord...Ve antra will bring more pain > > > > * looking at 2,7,11 lords...ve and st....ve is with 6 points and st is with 2 points ....left st less points and left ve 2nd lord > > > > * looking at 2,7,11 occupents ...me and su...me is with 7 points and su is with 4 points ...left su less points and left me 6th lord > > > > * looking at 4,12 occupents... ju and ke(ju/ju)... so ju....ju is with 5 points ....considering ju ...left as in Libra and aspect malefic to HOE > > > > * consider Reperesnter for Ra/Ke...Su,Ve/ Ju,Ju.... ..left Ra as alresdy left su and ve,left ke as already left ju > > > > * looking at 4,12 lords....Mo, ju....considerin g moon as already left ju....mo may act......... still requires more time for me to finalise > > > > > > > > ------------ ------ > > > > Regards, > > > > Devisingh > > > > > > > > Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=Corner@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Devisingh ji, > > > > > > > > Very nice attempt. Please continue your chain of thought. > > > > Try to find the antra that you think might give marriage. Just go upto antra. > > > > So first compute the delay and there after start to think over the best possible period that u think can give the event. > > > > However, do write your thinking process. That will help one figure out where you are going away or your confusion. > > > > Well Done. > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro. ca > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=astrologyan> dtimingevents@ . com] On Behalf Of devisigh > > > > Thursday November 5, 2009 6:42 AM > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > > Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart > > > > > > > > Dear All; > > > > > > > > My first attempt using KAS rules/techniques only > > > > > > > > 7th house marriage: > > > > selecting Mo main Dasha which is with FK Ve for 7th house > > > > Su and Ju seems significator from ws points for 7th house > > > > other planets aspects 7th house i left them > > > > Su is with Me which is 6th load makes Su samdharmi to 6th lord i left that > > > > Ju having highest points and also LoE > > > > now considering Ju only as strong significator which in RK and NRK and natural samdharmi to Mo which is LoD. > > > > Ju does not have sight on A/B/C and is LoE can gives results > > > > > > > > Thinking for samdharmi of Ju > > > > in navamsa Ju is with Ra ...makes Ju and Ra samdharmi > > > > Ra can be thought to facilitate results for 7th house matters ........still this takes time for me to finalize > > > > > > > > ------------ ------ > > > > Regards, > > > > Devisingh > > > > > > > > > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji, > > > > > > > > You are correct. It was a typo. It was good that I gave the degree of all planets so this mistake could be checked right in the begining. > > > > > > > > Thanks Nikhlesh ji. > > > > > > > > The date should be May 24th. > > > > > > > > 24th May 1979 > > > > 4:10 AM > > > > 28N40 > > > > 77E13 > > > > > > > > Sorry about that. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=%40gr\ oups.com> , " nikhlesh mathur " <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=nikhleshmathur@ <nikhleshmathur@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sub: 24th Feb 1979, 4.10 am, 28.N.40, 77.E.13 > > > > > Dear Ash ji, > > > > > > > > > > You said that Su is 9Ta31 for the above native. But a person born on the month of Feb cannot have his Sun in Taurus sign. It should be in Aquarius at this time. > > > > > > > > > > If other things are okay then I think the birth date is 24th May. > > > > > > > > > > Please confirm. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:47:29 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add to > > > > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6) When > > > > > can the native face health problems? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash's Corner@ [kas@ <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=kas@> ...] > > > > > Monday October 26, 2009 > > > > > 12:18 AM > > > > > To: > > > > > 'astrologyandtiming events@grou ps.com <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=%27%40yaho\ ogroups.com> ' > > > > > Practice Chart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear > > > > > Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This > > > > > lady has been posting charts in various lists for many years now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is > > > > > the chart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24th > > > > > Feb 1979 > > > > > > > > > > 4:10 AM > > > > > > > > > > 28N40 > > > > > > > > > > 77E13 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From > > > > > what I gather, she had an affair or liked some guy that she wanted to > > > > > marry. I am not clear from her posts > > > > > that if she married the same guy or not. > > > > > Her parents were looking out for some proposals for her. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If this > > > > > chart came blindly to you, can you predict the following. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) > > > > > Marriage > > > > > > > > > > 2) > > > > > Child birth > > > > > > > > > > 3) > > > > > Marital Relations overall > > > > > > > > > > 4) > > > > > She has been complaining that relations are bad after marriage and > > > > > asked if she should go for divorce. > > > > > > > > > > 5) > > > > > Why she had affair or what are the yogs for that in this chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Degrees > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 15 Ar 55 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Su > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9 Ta 31 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 13 Ar 48 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 13 Ar 8 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Me > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2 Ta 15 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ju > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11 Cn 16 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 14 Ar 30 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 14 Le 35 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 20 Le 59 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ke > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 20 Aq 59 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage <http://in.rd./tagline_yyi_1/*http:/in./> . > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage <http://in.rd./tagline_yyi_1/*http:/in./> . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See <http://in.rd./tagline_yyi_1/*http:/in./> your Homepage. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 12, 2009 Dear Ash jiI learned all thing which you explain very good about 4:10.But still I have a doubt about that rule.AS per That rule say Su is in Mesha,and Ma is in Makara,then both Su and Ma are mutual significator.On that rule have not said anything about 4:10 relation and bindus.Please note "mutual significator".As you told,I will leave it ,but still doubts are there.Best WishesHussein , "Ash's Corner" <kas wrote:>> Dear Hussein ji,> > I have given a detailed explanation, still if you do not understand it, leave it. In due course of time, when such charts come up, it will get clear.> > Cheers !!!> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca> > On Behalf Of Hussein> Thursday November 12, 2009 5:25 PM> > Re: Practice Chart> > > Dear Ash ji> > Nir ji has given a good example.I think it will be clear what I say.> > Best Wishes> > Hussein> , "nirvana_seeker3" nirvana_seeker3@ wrote:> >> > The way I understood this is as following - > > > > Let's take an example. Lagna is Cancer. Jupiter is in lagna (in traditional VA, it will be considered as exalted). Saturn is in 4th house (again exalted) and Mars is in 10th in Aries (owns this sign and in kendra). In this example, according to this dictum, as I understand it is that Saturn, Jupiter and Mars will all be samdharmis. Jupiter and Mars are in 4:10 and so are Jupiter and Saturn. But Saturn and Mars are 1:7. > > > > Jupiter and Mars and similarly Juptier and Saturn can be explained by 4:10 theory the way you explained. However, the addition here is Saturn and Mars.> > > > Am I missing something?> > > > Nir.> > > > , "Ash's Corner@" kas@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Hussein ji and NS ji,> > > > > > Please read the sentence above that as well.> > > > > > â€Å" > > > (If, in the above case, planet 'A' had less points then 'B', then planet 'A' would behave in a reverse way and might give adverse results if it didn't receive more than 12 points in its final tally, as indicated in the worksheet.)â€Â> > > > > > The essence of that write up is that how 4:10 is being advocated by Saravali and others. That said, in our system, we go one step further to classify the same i.e.> > > > > > 1) Planet in 10th place if its less than 4 bindus and Planet in 4th house from it is with more than 4 bindus> > > 2) Planet in 10th place if its with more than 4 bindus and planet in 4th place from it is with less than 4 bindus> > > 3) Planet in 10th place is with 4 bindus and planet in 4th place from it is with more than 4 bindus> > > > > > So, in all the above case there is a very big difference on how the result will be. In the 1st case both planets will give good result as they will become very powerful SD as there is power transfer and in the WS the power will go up for all 12 house for the planet in 10th house that controls the planet in 4th house so in both antras result will be good.> > > > > > In second case, there is opposition. Planet in 10th place is with more than 4 bindus so its in House D for the 4th house from it so it will give the event or become eager but the planet in the 4th place will oppose the karaktwa of the planet in 10th place so during the antras very different results will be there.> > > > > > In the 3rd case, if the planet in 10th place is LoD or LoE then it will control the planet and will act like case 1 but for the house that it is not LoD or LoE it will not become SD and there will be no power transfer as there will not be any control of planet in 10th place on the planet in 4th place from it.> > > > > > Please understand this. > > > > > > Now since we are talking about 4:10 then our focus is on case 1 given above as we are studying positive things and trying to give the person who comes to u for getting a reading some hope. But it does not mean that other 2 scenarios are not there.> > > > > > Please do not get confused about this and get concept firm in your mind. So in case 1 only they will become mutual karaks means they can replace each other and in KAS terminology they become Samdharmi and that too 2 way means that both can replace each other. But only for case 1 and for case 3 in case the lord in 10th place is LoD or LoE for those house it will become SD with power transfer. But for case 2, it will be reverse effect. Planet in 4th place will oppose planet in 10th place and one will get the result accordingly. > > > Cheers !!!> > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > > > On Behalf Of Hussein> > > Thursday November 12, 2009 3:44 PM> > > > > > Re: Practice Chart> > > > > > > > > Dear Ash ji> > > > > > Anup ji had sent a text which Guru ji had explained SD rules there maybe in a class or worlshop(( 15th Aug 2008 2nd)).Anup ji sent this as a message in the group.I've saved that lessson as word file but don't know the number of message.> > > > > > Here is that rule:> > > > > > " > > > Sloka 6: > > > There is a reference in Saravali regarding two planets in Kendras (angle houses â€" 1, 4, 7, 10), becoming mutual significators. We have a similar law in this system also. > > > > > > Saravali Chapter 6 sloka - 1, 2 and 3: > > > > > > Swarkshatrikonntund astha yadi kendreshu sansthitaI > > > Anyonyam karakste syu: kendreshvev harermtamII 1II > > > > > > Ravitanyo jookstha: kulirlagne bruhaspatihimanshuI > > > Meshe kujo raviyut: pararsparm karaka ete II2II > > > > > > Tungsuhrutkhgruhnas he stitha gruha: karaka: samakhyata:I > > > Meshurane ch raviriti visheshto vakti chanakya: II 3II > > > > > > > > > MEANING: When two planets are in a Kendra and are exalted or own the house they are in, they become mutual karakas or significators. In the above sloka, Acharya Vishnugupt says that this happens only with respect to Kendras. One example, (as illustrated in Fig.37) for the Cancer lagna is given, with Saturn in Libra, the Moon and Jupiter in the lagna, Sun and Mars in Aries. In this case, all of them became mutual karakas. Similarly, some authors say that planets that are mutually angular though not necessarily from the ascendant are also mutual significators. For our purposes, when two planets are exalted or own the Kendra house they are in, making them mutual karakas, this is also a phenomenon that we use in this system. > > > > > > Best Wishes> > > > > > Hussein> > > , "Ash's Corner@" <kas@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Hussein ji?> > > > > > > > What law is that????? Please explain or show me the mail number so I can read that and understand what context?> > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Hussein> > > > Thursday November 12, 2009 2:49 PM> > > > > > > > Re: Practice Chart> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash ji > > > > > > > > I think another rule which is available for SDs is that :the planets which are in the exaltation sign or > > > > > > > > are in their own kendra are SD for each other.> > > > > > > > Best Wishes> > > > > > > > Hussein> > > > , "Ash's Corner@" kas@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Bella ji,> > > > > > > > > > Just one small correction from my side on my earlier mail.> > > > > > > > > > The order or SD will be> > > > > > > > > > 1) 4:10> > > > > 2) Same Sign & Nak> > > > > 3) Same Navamsa> > > > > 4) Navamsa lord> > > > > 5) Nakshatra lord.> > > > > > > > > > NSD if they get a chance they will give, that depends on fixed relationship as per natural chart. So there is no order for the same. Except that if they are in 1:7 then they cease to become NSDÃÆ'¢â‚¬â„¢s.> > > > > > > > > > The reason for the above order is that if you notice that the last 2 are only one way, means planet comes sd to navamsa lord or nak lord so its one way. Means planet can replace the nav lord or nak lord if they are unable to give the result but not vice versa.> > > > > When planets are in same navamsa then they are 2 way means both can replace each other.> > > > > > > > > > Hence the distinction. > > > > > > > > > > Just try to understand the essence of the same.> > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of BPShiv> > > > > Thursday November 12, 2009 12:48 PM> > > > > > > > > > Re: Re: Practice Chart> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'¯Â»Â¿ > > > > > Dear Devi Singh ji,> > > > > My answers are in purple. Seniors please correct my errors as this is the very basic portion of KAS that we are strengthening.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please clarify CAPS...this is new to me?> > > > > > > > > > "2.All Planets cojoin in sign NO"> > > > > By this i mean to say if two planets are in one sign in rashi chart ...for example ju and ma both are in Leo...both become samdharmi to each other....ma has low points so Ma can replace Ju > > > > > NO. Not in Rasi BUT YES in navamsa. If Ju and Ma are in Leo in Rasi they cannot be SD but if they are in same navamsa then they are SD.> > > > > In Rasi Ju and Ma have to be in the same sign AND also in the same nakshatra.> > > > > > > > > > "6.Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO"> > > > > This is case where Ju is in Leo in rashi chart and Ma is in Leo in navamsa.....both are in Leo and become samdharmi> > > > > No. But according to lesson 25 they could be SD if they both have more points. > > > > > > > > > > "8.Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO"> > > > > This is case where Ju with 5 point in Tarus and placed in 4th house....so LoD for 7th house is Ve and Ju can give result due to its placement so samdharmi to Ve ....can replace Ve> > > > > NO. Planet is not SD to sign Lo itself in Rasi.> > > > > Here in your example if you are talking about 4:10 relationship than if Ju has 5 bindus in 4th place and if Ma is in 10th place with 3 bindus than Ju can be SD to Ma provided it has more bindus. > > > > > > > > > > "9.If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra NO"> > > > > This is case Ju is with Ra in rashi/navamsa.......and Ra represents Su/St......so Ju samdharmi to Su/St.....I Think this is my mistake we should not consider Ra as it does not have rulership of any sign> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NO. Ju is not SD to Su.> > > > > In this case if Ju is with Ra in rasi they are not SD. If they are in Leo that means Ra represents Su. Also we have to see nakshatra Lo that Ra is in. Say Ra is in nakshatra of Ve and from two of them whichever has more bindus Ra will represent like them. If Ve has 5 bindus and Su has 3 bindus than Ra will be more like Ve and less like Su also have to check the points in WS.> > > > > Now if Ra is with Ju in Sa navamsa than Ra is SD to Ju and SD to Sa.> > > > > To summarize this ex. Ra REPRESENTS Ve and is SD to Ju and Sa.> > > > > > > > > > "Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO"> > > > > I think this is again not true as per your emails and lessons as well.......rather Mo natural samdharmi to Ma.............Mo can replace Ma.> > > > > However i have not got root cause/main reason for this ......rather what i think is Mo can not be boss .....Please clarify or provide any means where should i look?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes. If Ma is in navamsa of Mo than Ma is SD to Mo and Ma can fill in for Mo.> > > > > Also, please refer to Ash ji's msg # 20953 link. Nice update and more clarifications.> > > > > > > > > > Thank you,> > > > > -Bella.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > Anup. M <dalh_1@ > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, November 12, 2009 8:48 AM> > > > > Re: Re: Practice Chart> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Devi singh ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just wait,i hope members over here will try to explain you > > > > > regarding your confusions.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Anup> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 12/11/09, devisigh devisingh.rajput@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > devisigh devisingh.rajput@> > > > > Re: Re: Practice Chart> > > > > > > > > > Thursday, 12 November, 2009, 7:28 PM> > > > > > > > > > Dear Anup ji,> > > > > > > > > > It is really wondering for me.....something i guess incorrect in drafting/representa tion by me...let me try one more time in better way.....> > > > > > > > > > Please clarify CAPS...this is new to me?> > > > > > > > > > "2.All Planets cojoin in sign NO"> > > > > By this i mean to say if two planets are in one sign in rashi chart ...for example ju and ma both are in Leo...both become samdharmi to each other....ma has low points so Ma can replace Ju > > > > > > > > > > "6.Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO"> > > > > This is case where Ju is in Leo in rashi chart and Ma is in Leo in navamsa..... both are in Leo and become samdharmi> > > > > > > > > > "8.Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO"> > > > > This is case where Ju with 5 point in Tarus and placed in 4th house....so LoD for 7th house is Ve and Ju can give result due to its placement so samdharmi to Ve ....can replace Ve> > > > > > > > > > "9.If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra NO"> > > > > This is case Ju is with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ......and Ra represents Su/St......so Ju samdharmi to Su/St.....I Think this is my mistake we should not consider Ra as it does not have rulership of any sign> > > > > > > > > > "Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO"> > > > > I think this is again not true as per your emails and lessons as well.......rather Mo natural samdharmi to Ma.......... ...Mo can replace Ma.> > > > > However i have not got root cause/main reason for this ......rather what i think is Mo can not be boss .....Please clarify or provide any means where should i look?> > > > > > > > > > ------------ ------ > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Devisingh> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anup. M wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Devi singh ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My understanding is as per CAPS below.> > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > Anup> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 11/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com>> > > > > Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart> > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> > > > > Wednesday, 11 November, 2009, 6:30 PM> > > > > > > > > > Dear Anup ji,> > > > > > > > > > Thank you ....for corrections on emails.....this will keep me on track and avoiding out of track.> > > > > > > > > > If Planets in navamsa have 4:10 relation we should not consider them samdharmi that is input for me.> > > > > > > > > > Below is my understanding related to samdharmi what is gathered upto 2000 emails of achieves.... .putting here so may be help full to other members as well please have a look and comment on them where requires...i have arranged them on priority basis please provides your valuable comment for them where required> > > > > 1. Planets making 4:10 in rashi (offcourse boss and subordinate analogy) YES > > > > > 2. All Planets cojoin in sign NO > > > > > 3. Planet is samdharmi to Lord of nakshtra sign YES > > > > > 4. All Planets in same nakshatra YES > > > > > 5. All Planets cojoin in navamsa YES > > > > > 6. Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO> > > > > 7. Planet is samdharmi to Lord navamsa sign YES > > > > > 8. Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO> > > > > 9. If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra NO > > > > > 10. > > > > > 11. Ra is samdharmi to sign lord and navamsa lord and planet cojoin in navamsa YES> > > > > > > > > > Yes it is my mistake mo,ju,ma are not natural samdharmi as per KAS......Please forgive me i might done it knowingly but not intentionally> > > > > In kalpurush chart ....looking 4:10> > > > > St and Ve are samdharmi to each other....can replace each other> > > > > Su samdharmi to Ma...Su can replace Ma YES> > > > > Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO> > > > > ------------ ------ > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Devisingh> > > > > > > > > > Anup. M wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Devi singh ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think samdharmi concept is not clear somewhere in your mail> > > > > > > > > > Pleae note that ..> > > > > MOON AND JU ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI > > > > > JU AND MARS ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI.> > > > > > > > > > Also we do not consider 4:10 relation in navamsa.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 10/11/09, devisigh <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=devisingh.rajput@ <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com>> > > > > Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart> > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> > > > > Tuesday, 10 November, 2009, 6:56 PM> > > > > > > > > > Dear All;> > > > > > > > > > Some more thoughts to fix antra> > > > > > > > > > St full delay but st have moved 15 degree so considering 27.5-1.3=26. 3 year initial value> > > > > Ju aspects Hb in navamsa but is is in libra with rahu in navamsa and in nakshtra of St so it can not check to saturn so full delay no help from Ju to reduce delay as staus of Ju is not good> > > > > > > > > > no zero in SAV so no addition in delay> > > > > Blessing in navamsa but can not help to reduce delay> > > > > St is with Ra in rashi so more affilicted add delay> > > > > Mo aspected by Ra in rashi and St cojoin in navamsa ,As lumanaries are aspected so that will add delay > > > > > > > > > > Main dasha lord Mo is OK as karka to give 7th house events> > > > > > > > > > Mo-Mo> > > > > Mo LoD and Natural Samdharmi to Ju can give event> > > > > > > > > > But I think this would not be case as some what delay have to be added> > > > > > > > > > Mo-Ma> > > > > Ju and Ma both in cancer one in rasi and another in navamsa makes them samdharmi> > > > > Ju and Ma both are natural samdharmi> > > > > Ju and Ma 4:10 in rashi/navamsa> > > > > Ju LoE and high point So Event can be in 3rd sector of it.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mo-Ra> > > > > Ra represnts Su/Ve....considerin g more like Ve NK FK.... and cojoin Ju in navamsa so samdahrmi to Ju > > > > > > > > > > so Event can be in 3rd sector of it.......seems not wise choice still to me> > > > > > > > > > Mo-Ju> > > > > Ju Can give Event in 3rd Sector on it> > > > > > > > > > will come up with more thought as gets educated to this system> > > > > ------------ ------ > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Devisingh> > > > > > > > > > devisigh wrote: > > > > > Dear Ash ji,> > > > > > > > > > Namaskar> > > > > > > > > > Sincere thanks for your words attitude intension and time. > > > > > > > > > > I am trying my all time what i can collect to study this system. > > > > > I guess this can takes time may be 3year (less points till that time also indicate hardwork and busy for me) Will continue my attempt/doubts hope for comments from moderators for same.> > > > > I am enjoying achieves thanks to Krushna,sanjay, Donna,Peter, Magritta and all very nice considering old time and situation.> > > > > hope that will helps me to understand and utilize system and finally to absorb root or essence of system so other all system and vedic text can be clarified with same so better results can be obtained related to timing of events.> > > > > Everybody is trying/pushing here only to help others using there own approach It is really appreciated GOD WILL HELP THEM WHO HELPED OTHERS> > > > > > > > > > Please find below is thought process/approach:> > > > > I am taking acceptance that person is not mentally retired and birth details are correct no rectification required> > > > > > > > > > Quality of 7th house:> > > > > * checking Ju in Libra in rashi/navamsa. ...navamsa has that...it is RK,NRK and LoE..seems not good for marriage. > > > > > * checking Ve nakshatra in rashi...bharni. ..ok > > > > > * checking Su and Ve distance in rashi...less then 43...ok > > > > > * checking Ve is with Ra,St or aspect in rashi/navamsa. ....Ve is with St in navamsa....spoils Ve more > > > > > * checking LoA,LoB,LoC, LoD,LoE in rashi.....Ve, St..Mo,Ju > > > > > * checking planets with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ..Sa and Ju.....St is LoC and Ju is loE for 7th house and LoA for 5th house. > > > > > * checking Ra aspects on house in rashi/navamsa. ..9,12,2. .7,9,11.. 12th is HoE,2nd is HoA,9th is karak for HoA and HoC for child..7th is HB,11th is HC > > > > > * checking Ra aspects on planets in rashi and navamsa...Me, Su......Me 6th lord become more malefic and Su LoB for child case > > > > > * checking for planets with 6th/12th lord in rashi/navamsa. .... Ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord.....me is with ve in navamsa spoils ve. > > > > > * checking for aspects on house in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... > > > > > * checking for aspects on planets in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... > > > > > * cheking malefic aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....Ju with 5 points aspects to HoE,Ve with 6 points aspects to HB > > > > > * cheking benific aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....St with 2 points also LoC aspects to HB,HA and Mo aspects to HB> > > > > Blessings,compatibi lity,DBCE, strong house,strong planets:> > > > > * as usual to be looked will look another time> > > > > Finding significator:> > > > > * checking for 2nd lord in rashi......Ve is 2nd lord...Ve antra will bring more pain > > > > > * looking at 2,7,11 lords...ve and st....ve is with 6 points and st is with 2 points ....left st less points and left ve 2nd lord > > > > > * looking at 2,7,11 occupents ...me and su...me is with 7 points and su is with 4 points ...left su less points and left me 6th lord > > > > > * looking at 4,12 occupents... ju and ke(ju/ju)... so ju....ju is with 5 points ....considering ju ...left as in Libra and aspect malefic to HOE > > > > > * consider Reperesnter for Ra/Ke...Su,Ve/ Ju,Ju.... ..left Ra as alresdy left su and ve,left ke as already left ju > > > > > * looking at 4,12 lords....Mo, ju....considerin g moon as already left ju....mo may act......... still requires more time for me to finalise> > > > > > > > > > ------------ ------ > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Devisingh> > > > > > > > > > Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=Corner@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Devisingh ji,> > > > > > > > > > Very nice attempt. Please continue your chain of thought. > > > > > Try to find the antra that you think might give marriage. Just go upto antra. > > > > > So first compute the delay and there after start to think over the best possible period that u think can give the event. > > > > > However, do write your thinking process. That will help one figure out where you are going away or your confusion. > > > > > Well Done. > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro. ca > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=astrologyan> dtimingevents] On Behalf Of devisigh> > > > > Thursday November 5, 2009 6:42 AM> > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> > > > > Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart> > > > > > > > > > Dear All;> > > > > > > > > > My first attempt using KAS rules/techniques only> > > > > > > > > > 7th house marriage:> > > > > selecting Mo main Dasha which is with FK Ve for 7th house> > > > > Su and Ju seems significator from ws points for 7th house> > > > > other planets aspects 7th house i left them> > > > > Su is with Me which is 6th load makes Su samdharmi to 6th lord i left that> > > > > Ju having highest points and also LoE> > > > > now considering Ju only as strong significator which in RK and NRK and natural samdharmi to Mo which is LoD.> > > > > Ju does not have sight on A/B/C and is LoE can gives results> > > > > > > > > > Thinking for samdharmi of Ju> > > > > in navamsa Ju is with Ra ...makes Ju and Ra samdharmi > > > > > Ra can be thought to facilitate results for 7th house matters .......still this takes time for me to finalize> > > > > > > > > > ------------ ------ > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Devisingh> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji,> > > > > > > > > > You are correct. It was a typo. It was good that I gave the degree of all planets so this mistake could be checked right in the begining.> > > > > > > > > > Thanks Nikhlesh ji.> > > > > > > > > > The date should be May 24th.> > > > > > > > > > 24th May 1979> > > > > 4:10 AM> > > > > 28N40> > > > > 77E13> > > > > > > > > > Sorry about that.> > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca> > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=%40> , "nikhlesh mathur" <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=nikhleshmathur@ <nikhleshmathur@ ...> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sub: 24th Feb 1979, 4.10 am, 28.N.40, 77.E.13> > > > > > Dear Ash ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > You said that Su is 9Ta31 for the above native. But a person born on the month of Feb cannot have his Sun in Taurus sign. It should be in Aquarius at this time.> > > > > > > > > > > > If other things are okay then I think the birth date is 24th May.> > > > > > > > > > > > Please confirm.> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:47:29 +0530 wrote> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Add to> > > > > > this.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6) When> > > > > > can the native face health problems?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash's Corner@ [kas@ <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=kas@> ...] > > > > > > Monday October 26, 2009> > > > > > 12:18 AM> > > > > > To:> > > > > > 'astrologyandtiming events@grou ps.com <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=%27%40> '> > > > > > Practice Chart> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear> > > > > > Group,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This> > > > > > lady has been posting charts in various lists for many years now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is> > > > > > the chart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24th> > > > > > Feb 1979> > > > > > > > > > > > 4:10 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > 28N40> > > > > > > > > > > > 77E13> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From> > > > > > what I gather, she had an affair or liked some guy that she wanted to> > > > > > marry. I am not clear from her posts> > > > > > that if she married the same guy or not.> > > > > > Her parents were looking out for some proposals for her.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If this> > > > > > chart came blindly to you, can you predict the following.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1)> > > > > > Marriage> > > > > > > > > > > > 2)> > > > > > Child birth> > > > > > > > > > > > 3)> > > > > > Marital Relations overall> > > > > > > > > > > > 4)> > > > > > She has been complaining that relations are bad after marriage and> > > > > > asked if she should go for divorce.> > > > > > > > > > > > 5)> > > > > > Why she had affair or what are the yogs for that in this chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Degrees> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 15 Ar 55> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Su> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9 Ta 31> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mo> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 13 Ar 48> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ma> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 13 Ar 8> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Me> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2 Ta 15> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ju> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11 Cn 16> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ve> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 14 Ar 30> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sa> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 14 Le 35> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 20 Le 59> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ke> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 20 Aq 59> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage <http://in.rd./tagline_yyi_1/*http:/in./> . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage <http://in.rd./tagline_yyi_1/*http:/in./> . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See <http://in.rd./tagline_yyi_1/*http:/in./> your Homepage.> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 13, 2009 Dear Anup Ji, Namskar First i would like to thank you again......very good judge....great help by point out incorrectness on emails.......I have looked more and thought that something is deep still there for karyesh...... However i will say that there are enough reasons for someone to grasp incorrectly.......untill he came to group/gurus .......(which i feel group is doing best) Lessons are good start but requires more rectification........i think what is represented that is having something different meaning then what it conveyed to reader......understanding behind that message is requires more elaboration....... unfortunately i have came after reading all FAQ,All Lessons and 2000 achieves and solving 5-6 charts for marriage (obviously based on incorrect foundation).........i guess that is not sufficient to hash out all questions. Good reference of emails is always there I suggest if moderators can include them in FAQ or else where.......for more reading to get firm with concept ------------------ Regards, Devisingh Anup. M wrote:  Dear Devi singh ji,   Just wait,i hope members over here will try to explain you regarding your confusions.   Regards Anup  --- On Thu, 12/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput > wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajput > Re: Re: Practice Chart Thursday, 12 November, 2009, 7:28 PM  Dear Anup ji, It is really wondering for me.....something i guess incorrect in drafting/representa tion by me...let me try one more time in better way..... Please clarify CAPS...this is new to me? "2.All Planets cojoin in sign   NO" By this i mean to say if two planets are in one sign in rashi chart ....for example ju and ma both are in Leo...both become samdharmi to each other....ma has low points so Ma can replace Ju "6.Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa)    NO" This is case where Ju is in Leo in rashi chart and Ma is in Leo in navamsa..... both are in Leo and become samdharmi "8.Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected)      NO" This is case where Ju with 5 point in Tarus and placed in 4th house....so LoD for 7th house is Ve and Ju can give result due to its placement so samdharmi to Ve ....can replace Ve "9.If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra    NO" This is case Ju is with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ......and Ra represents Su/St......so Ju samdharmi to Su/St.....I Think this is my mistake we should not consider Ra as it does not have rulership of any sign "Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO" I think this is again not true as per your emails and lessons as well.......rather Mo natural samdharmi to Ma.......... ...Mo can replace Ma. However i have not got root cause/main reason for this ......rather what i think is Mo can not be boss .....Please clarify or provide any means where should i look? ------------ ------ Regards, Devisingh Anup. M wrote:  Dear Devi singh ji,   My understanding is as per CAPS below.  Regards Anup --- On Wed, 11/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com Wednesday, 11 November, 2009, 6:30 PM  Dear Anup ji, Thank you ....for corrections on emails.....this will keep me on track and avoiding out of track. If Planets in navamsa have 4:10 relation we should not consider them samdharmi that is input for me. Below is my understanding related to samdharmi what is gathered upto 2000 emails of achieves.... .putting here so may be help full to other members as well please have a look and comment on them where requires...i have arranged them on priority basis please provides your valuable comment for them where required Planets making 4:10 in rashi (offcourse boss and subordinate analogy) YES All Planets cojoin in sign   NO Planet is samdharmi to Lord of nakshtra sign  YES All Planets in same nakshatra   YES All Planets cojoin in navamsa   YES Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa)    NO Planet is samdharmi to Lord navamsa sign     YES Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected)      NO If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra    NO Ra is samdharmi to sign lord and navamsa lord and planet cojoin in navamsa    YES Yes it is my mistake mo,ju,ma are not natural samdharmi as per KAS......Please forgive me i might done it knowingly but not intentionally In kalpurush chart ....looking 4:10 St and Ve are samdharmi to each other....can replace each other Su samdharmi to Ma...Su can replace Ma           YES Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO ------------ ------ Regards, Devisingh Anup. M wrote:  Dear Devi singh ji,   I think samdharmi concept is not clear somewhere in your mail  Pleae note that ... MOON AND JU ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI JU AND MARS ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI.  Also we do not consider 4:10 relation in navamsa.   Regards Anup  --- On Tue, 10/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com Tuesday, 10 November, 2009, 6:56 PM  Dear All; Some more thoughts to fix antra St full delay but st have moved 15 degree so considering 27.5-1.3=26. 3 year initial value Ju aspects Hb in navamsa but is is in libra with rahu in navamsa and in nakshtra of St so it can not check to saturn so full delay no help from Ju to reduce delay as staus of Ju is not good no zero in SAV so no addition in delay Blessing in navamsa but can not help to reduce delay St is with Ra in rashi so more affilicted add delay Mo aspected by Ra in rashi and St cojoin in navamsa ,As lumanaries are aspected so that will add delay Main dasha lord Mo is OK as karka to give 7th house events Mo-Mo Mo LoD and Natural Samdharmi to Ju can give event But I think this would not be case as some what delay have to be added Mo-Ma Ju and Ma both in cancer one in rasi and another in navamsa makes them samdharmi Ju and Ma both are natural samdharmi Ju and Ma 4:10 in rashi/navamsa Ju LoE and high point So Event can be in 3rd sector of it. Mo-Ra Ra represnts Su/Ve....considerin g more like Ve NK FK.... and cojoin Ju in navamsa so samdahrmi to Ju so Event can be in 3rd sector of it.......seems not wise choice still to me Mo-Ju Ju Can give Event in 3rd Sector on it will come up with more thought as gets educated to this system ------------ ------ Regards, Devisingh devisigh wrote: Dear Ash ji, Namaskar Sincere thanks for your words attitude intension and time. I am trying my all time what i can collect to study this system. I guess this can takes time may be 3year (less points till that time also indicate hardwork and busy for me) Will continue my attempt/doubts hope for comments from moderators for same. I am enjoying achieves thanks to Krushna,sanjay, Donna,Peter, Magritta and all very nice considering old time and situation. hope that will helps me to understand and utilize system and finally to absorb root or essence of system so other all system and vedic text can be clarified with same so better results can be obtained related to timing of events. Everybody is trying/pushing here only to help others using there own approach It is really appreciated GOD WILL HELP THEM WHO HELPED OTHERS Please find below is thought process/approach: I am taking acceptance that person is not mentally retired and birth details are correct no rectification required Quality of 7th house: checking Ju in Libra in rashi/navamsa. ...navamsa has that...it is RK,NRK and LoE..seems not good for marriage. checking Ve nakshatra in rashi...bharni. ..ok checking Su and Ve distance in rashi...less then 43...ok checking Ve is with Ra,St or aspect in rashi/navamsa. ....Ve is with St in navamsa....spoils Ve more checking LoA,LoB,LoC, LoD,LoE in rashi.....Ve, St..Mo,Ju checking planets with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ..Sa and Ju.....St is LoC and Ju is loE for 7th house and LoA for 5th house. checking Ra aspects on house in rashi/navamsa. ..9,12,2. .7,9,11.. 12th is HoE,2nd is HoA,9th is karak for HoA and HoC for child..7th is HB,11th is HC checking Ra aspects on planets in rashi and navamsa...Me, Su......Me 6th lord become more malefic and Su LoB for child case checking for planets with 6th/12th lord in rashi/navamsa. .... Ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord.....me is with ve in navamsa spoils ve. checking for aspects on house in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... checking for aspects on planets in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... cheking malefic aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....Ju with 5 points aspects to HoE,Ve with 6 points aspects to HB cheking benific aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....St with 2 points also LoC aspects to HB,HA and Mo aspects to HB Blessings,compatibi lity,DBCE, strong house,strong planets: as usual to be looked will look another time Finding significator: checking for 2nd lord in rashi......Ve is 2nd lord...Ve antra will bring more pain looking at 2,7,11 lords...ve and st....ve is with 6 points and st is with 2 points ....left st less points and left ve 2nd lord looking at 2,7,11 occupents ...me and su...me is with 7 points and su is with 4 points ...left su less points and left me 6th lord looking at 4,12 occupents... ju and ke(ju/ju)... so ju....ju is with 5 points ....considering ju ....left as in Libra and aspect malefic to HOE consider Reperesnter for Ra/Ke...Su,Ve/ Ju,Ju.... ..left Ra as alresdy left su and ve,left ke as already left ju looking at 4,12 lords....Mo, ju....considerin g moon as already left ju....mo may act......... still requires more time for me to finalise ------------ ------ Regards, Devisingh Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca wrote:  Dear Devisingh ji,  Very nice attempt. Please continue your chain of thought.  Try to find the antra that you think might give marriage. Just go upto antra.  So first compute the delay and there after start to think over the best possible period that u think can give the event.  However, do write your thinking process. That will help one figure out where you are going away or your confusion.  Well Done.  Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca  astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan dtimingevents@ . com] On Behalf Of devisigh Sent: Thursday November 5, 2009 6:42 AM To: astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com Subject: Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart   Dear All; My first attempt using KAS rules/techniques only 7th house marriage: selecting Mo main Dasha which is with FK Ve for 7th house Su and Ju seems significator from ws points for 7th house other planets aspects 7th house i left them Su is with Me which is 6th load makes Su samdharmi to 6th lord i left that Ju having highest points and also LoE now considering Ju only as strong significator which in RK and NRK and natural samdharmi to Mo which is LoD. Ju does not have sight on A/B/C and is LoE can gives results Thinking for samdharmi of Ju in navamsa Ju is with Ra ...makes Ju and Ra samdharmi Ra can be thought to facilitate results for 7th house matters ........still this takes time for me to finalize ------------ ------ Regards, Devisingh ashsam73 wrote:  Dear Nikhlesh ji, You are correct. It was a typo. It was good that I gave the degree of all planets so this mistake could be checked right in the begining. Thanks Nikhlesh ji. The date should be May 24th. 24th May 1979 4:10 AM 28N40 77E13 Sorry about that. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "nikhlesh mathur" <nikhleshmathur@ ...> wrote: > > > > Sub: 24th Feb 1979, 4.10 am, 28.N.40, 77.E.13 > Dear Ash ji, > > You said that Su is 9Ta31 for the above native. But a person born on the month of Feb cannot have his Sun in Taurus sign. It should be in Aquarius at this time. > > If other things are okay then I think the birth date is 24th May. > > Please confirm. > > Regards, > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:47:29 +0530 wrote > > > > Add to > this. > > > 6) When > can the native face health problems? > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca > > > > > > Ash's Corner [kas] > Monday October 26, 2009 > 12:18 AM > To: > 'astrologyandtiming events@grou ps.com' > Practice Chart > > > Dear > Group, > > > > This > lady has been posting charts in various lists for many years now. > > > > Here is > the chart > > > > 24th > Feb 1979 > > 4:10 AM > > 28N40 > > 77E13 > > > > From > what I gather, she had an affair or liked some guy that she wanted to > marry. I am not clear from her posts > that if she married the same guy or not. > Her parents were looking out for some proposals for her. > > > > If this > chart came blindly to you, can you predict the following. > > > > 1) > Marriage > > 2) > Child birth > > 3) > Marital Relations overall > > 4) > She has been complaining that relations are bad after marriage and > asked if she should go for divorce. > > 5) > Why she had affair or what are the yogs for that in this chart. > > > > > > > > > Planet > > > Degrees > > > > > As > > > 15 Ar 55 > > > > > Su > > > 9 Ta 31 > > > > > Mo > > > 13 Ar 48 > > > > > Ma > > > 13 Ar 8 > > > > > Me > > > 2 Ta 15 > > > > > Ju > > > 11 Cn 16 > > > > > Ve > > > 14 Ar 30 > > > > > Sa > > > 14 Le 35 > > > > > Ra > > > 20 Le 59 > > > > > Ke > > > 20 Aq 59 > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca >  The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. 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Guest guest Report post Posted November 13, 2009 Dear Bella Ji, Really a great post....very good analogy......just 1 doubt Person C also wants to rents and Person C moves in with Person A sharing the same Room (nakshatra 1). "Now Person C and Person A will come close and will become samdharmi to each other to maintain peace and harmony." Why "WILL" is there any exception I think this can be should/must?? "Now, the Room owner of nakshatra 1 is Person D. So when D comes to collect rent, Person A and C will give due respect and can substitute or help Person D so they will listen to Person D, however Person D i.e room owner need not help or step in for Person C and A." From above what i understand is as below please comment........... Case....Su and Ma both are in Leo Sign and Bharani nakshatra (Ve is lord )....... ... ----Antra of Su/Ma can also give events of House where Ve is strong karyesh (case this is strong karyesh but can not give results for HB) ----Antra of Su can give events related to Ma (case this is strong karyesh but can not give results for HB) ----Antra of Ma can give events related to Su (case this is strong karyesh but can not give results for HB) ----Antra of Ve can not give event related to House where Ve is strong karyesh ----Antra of Su can give event related to House where Ma is strong karyesh by virtue of natural samdharmi (and not creating 1:7)......please comment here ----Antra of Su can give event related to House where Ma is strong karyesh by virtue dasha sequence .......please comment here..........(should we consider 1:7 here also?) ------------------ Regards, Devisingh BPShiv wrote:   Dear Devi Singh ji,  Please refer to Message #20953 for the recent clarification by Ash ji. Very good information.  -Bella.   ----- Original Message ----- devisigh To: Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 7:58 AM Subject: Re: Re: Practice Chart  Dear Anup ji, It is really wondering for me.....something i guess incorrect in drafting/representation by me...let me try one more time in better way..... Please clarify CAPS...this is new to me? "2.All Planets cojoin in sign   NO" By this i mean to say if two planets are in one sign in rashi chart ....for example ju and ma both are in Leo...both become samdharmi to each other....ma has low points so Ma can replace Ju "6.Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa)    NO" This is case where Ju is in Leo in rashi chart and Ma is in Leo in navamsa.....both are in Leo and become samdharmi "8.Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected)      NO" This is case where Ju with 5 point in Tarus and placed in 4th house....so LoD for 7th house is Ve and Ju can give result due to its placement so samdharmi to Ve ....can replace Ve "9.If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra    NO" This is case Ju is with Ra in rashi/navamsa.......and Ra represents Su/St......so Ju samdharmi to Su/St.....I Think this is my mistake we should not consider Ra as it does not have rulership of any sign "Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO" I think this is again not true as per your emails and lessons as well.......rather Mo natural samdharmi to Ma.............Mo can replace Ma. However i have not got root cause/main reason for this ......rather what i think is Mo can not be boss .....Please clarify or provide any means where should i look? ------------------ Regards, Devisingh Anup. M wrote:  Dear Devi singh ji,   My understanding is as per CAPS below.  Regards Anup --- On Wed, 11/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput > wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajput > Re: Re: Practice Chart Wednesday, 11 November, 2009, 6:30 PM  Dear Anup ji, Thank you ....for corrections on emails.....this will keep me on track and avoiding out of track. If Planets in navamsa have 4:10 relation we should not consider them samdharmi that is input for me. Below is my understanding related to samdharmi what is gathered upto 2000 emails of achieves.... .putting here so may be help full to other members as well please have a look and comment on them where requires...i have arranged them on priority basis please provides your valuable comment for them where required Planets making 4:10 in rashi (offcourse boss and subordinate analogy) YES All Planets cojoin in sign   NO Planet is samdharmi to Lord of nakshtra sign  YES All Planets in same nakshatra   YES All Planets cojoin in navamsa   YES Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa)    NO Planet is samdharmi to Lord navamsa sign     YES Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected)      NO If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra    NO Ra is samdharmi to sign lord and navamsa lord and planet cojoin in navamsa    YES Yes it is my mistake mo,ju,ma are not natural samdharmi as per KAS......Please forgive me i might done it knowingly but not intentionally In kalpurush chart ....looking 4:10 St and Ve are samdharmi to each other....can replace each other Su samdharmi to Ma...Su can replace Ma           YES Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO ------------ ------ Regards, Devisingh Anup. M wrote:  Dear Devi singh ji,   I think samdharmi concept is not clear somewhere in your mail  Pleae note that .. MOON AND JU ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI JU AND MARS ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI.  Also we do not consider 4:10 relation in navamsa.   Regards Anup  --- On Tue, 10/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com Tuesday, 10 November, 2009, 6:56 PM  Dear All; Some more thoughts to fix antra St full delay but st have moved 15 degree so considering 27.5-1.3=26. 3 year initial value Ju aspects Hb in navamsa but is is in libra with rahu in navamsa and in nakshtra of St so it can not check to saturn so full delay no help from Ju to reduce delay as staus of Ju is not good no zero in SAV so no addition in delay Blessing in navamsa but can not help to reduce delay St is with Ra in rashi so more affilicted add delay Mo aspected by Ra in rashi and St cojoin in navamsa ,As lumanaries are aspected so that will add delay Main dasha lord Mo is OK as karka to give 7th house events Mo-Mo Mo LoD and Natural Samdharmi to Ju can give event But I think this would not be case as some what delay have to be added Mo-Ma Ju and Ma both in cancer one in rasi and another in navamsa makes them samdharmi Ju and Ma both are natural samdharmi Ju and Ma 4:10 in rashi/navamsa Ju LoE and high point So Event can be in 3rd sector of it. Mo-Ra Ra represnts Su/Ve....considerin g more like Ve NK FK.... and cojoin Ju in navamsa so samdahrmi to Ju so Event can be in 3rd sector of it.......seems not wise choice still to me Mo-Ju Ju Can give Event in 3rd Sector on it will come up with more thought as gets educated to this system ------------ ------ Regards, Devisingh devisigh wrote: Dear Ash ji, Namaskar Sincere thanks for your words attitude intension and time. I am trying my all time what i can collect to study this system. I guess this can takes time may be 3year (less points till that time also indicate hardwork and busy for me) Will continue my attempt/doubts hope for comments from moderators for same. I am enjoying achieves thanks to Krushna,sanjay, Donna,Peter, Magritta and all very nice considering old time and situation. hope that will helps me to understand and utilize system and finally to absorb root or essence of system so other all system and vedic text can be clarified with same so better results can be obtained related to timing of events. Everybody is trying/pushing here only to help others using there own approach It is really appreciated GOD WILL HELP THEM WHO HELPED OTHERS Please find below is thought process/approach: I am taking acceptance that person is not mentally retired and birth details are correct no rectification required Quality of 7th house: checking Ju in Libra in rashi/navamsa. ....navamsa has that...it is RK,NRK and LoE..seems not good for marriage. checking Ve nakshatra in rashi...bharni. ..ok checking Su and Ve distance in rashi...less then 43...ok checking Ve is with Ra,St or aspect in rashi/navamsa. ....Ve is with St in navamsa....spoils Ve more checking LoA,LoB,LoC, LoD,LoE in rashi.....Ve, St..Mo,Ju checking planets with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ..Sa and Ju.....St is LoC and Ju is loE for 7th house and LoA for 5th house. checking Ra aspects on house in rashi/navamsa. ..9,12,2. .7,9,11.. 12th is HoE,2nd is HoA,9th is karak for HoA and HoC for child..7th is HB,11th is HC checking Ra aspects on planets in rashi and navamsa...Me, Su......Me 6th lord become more malefic and Su LoB for child case checking for planets with 6th/12th lord in rashi/navamsa. .... Ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord.....me is with ve in navamsa spoils ve. checking for aspects on house in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... checking for aspects on planets in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... cheking malefic aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....Ju with 5 points aspects to HoE,Ve with 6 points aspects to HB cheking benific aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....St with 2 points also LoC aspects to HB,HA and Mo aspects to HB Blessings,compatibi lity,DBCE, strong house,strong planets: as usual to be looked will look another time Finding significator: checking for 2nd lord in rashi......Ve is 2nd lord...Ve antra will bring more pain looking at 2,7,11 lords...ve and st....ve is with 6 points and st is with 2 points ....left st less points and left ve 2nd lord looking at 2,7,11 occupents ...me and su...me is with 7 points and su is with 4 points ...left su less points and left me 6th lord looking at 4,12 occupents... ju and ke(ju/ju)... so ju....ju is with 5 points ....considering ju ...left as in Libra and aspect malefic to HOE consider Reperesnter for Ra/Ke...Su,Ve/ Ju,Ju.... ..left Ra as alresdy left su and ve,left ke as already left ju looking at 4,12 lords....Mo, ju....considerin g moon as already left ju....mo may act......... still requires more time for me to finalise ------------ ------ Regards, Devisingh Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca wrote:  Dear Devisingh ji,  Very nice attempt. Please continue your chain of thought. Try to find the antra that you think might give marriage. Just go upto antra. So first compute the delay and there after start to think over the best possible period that u think can give the event. However, do write your thinking process. That will help one figure out where you are going away or your confusion. Well Done. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan dtimingevents] On Behalf Of devisigh Sent: Thursday November 5, 2009 6:42 AM To: astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com Subject: Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart  Dear All; My first attempt using KAS rules/techniques only 7th house marriage: selecting Mo main Dasha which is with FK Ve for 7th house Su and Ju seems significator from ws points for 7th house other planets aspects 7th house i left them Su is with Me which is 6th load makes Su samdharmi to 6th lord i left that Ju having highest points and also LoE now considering Ju only as strong significator which in RK and NRK and natural samdharmi to Mo which is LoD. Ju does not have sight on A/B/C and is LoE can gives results Thinking for samdharmi of Ju in navamsa Ju is with Ra ...makes Ju and Ra samdharmi Ra can be thought to facilitate results for 7th house matters ........still this takes time for me to finalize ------------ ------ Regards, Devisingh ashsam73 wrote:  Dear Nikhlesh ji, You are correct. It was a typo. It was good that I gave the degree of all planets so this mistake could be checked right in the begining. Thanks Nikhlesh ji. The date should be May 24th. 24th May 1979 4:10 AM 28N40 77E13 Sorry about that. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "nikhlesh mathur" <nikhleshmathur@ ...> wrote: > > > > Sub: 24th Feb 1979, 4.10 am, 28.N.40, 77.E.13 > Dear Ash ji, > > You said that Su is 9Ta31 for the above native. But a person born on the month of Feb cannot have his Sun in Taurus sign. It should be in Aquarius at this time. > > If other things are okay then I think the birth date is 24th May. > > Please confirm. > > Regards, > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:47:29 +0530 wrote > > > > Add to > this. > > > 6) When > can the native face health problems? > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca > > > > > > Ash's Corner [kas] > Monday October 26, 2009 > 12:18 AM > To: > 'astrologyandtiming events@grou ps.com' > Practice Chart > > > Dear > Group, > > > > This > lady has been posting charts in various lists for many years now. > > > > Here is > the chart > > > > 24th > Feb 1979 > > 4:10 AM > > 28N40 > > 77E13 > > > > From > what I gather, she had an affair or liked some guy that she wanted to > marry. I am not clear from her posts > that if she married the same guy or not. > Her parents were looking out for some proposals for her. > > > > If this > chart came blindly to you, can you predict the following. > > > > 1) > Marriage > > 2) > Child birth > > 3) > Marital Relations overall > > 4) > She has been complaining that relations are bad after marriage and > asked if she should go for divorce. > > 5) > Why she had affair or what are the yogs for that in this chart. > > > > > > > > > Planet > > > Degrees > > > > > As > > > 15 Ar 55 > > > > > Su > > > 9 Ta 31 > > > > > Mo > > > 13 Ar 48 > > > > > Ma > > > 13 Ar 8 > > > > > Me > > > 2 Ta 15 > > > > > Ju > > > 11 Cn 16 > > > > > Ve > > > 14 Ar 30 > > > > > Sa > > > 14 Le 35 > > > > > Ra > > > 20 Le 59 > > > > > Ke > > > 20 Aq 59 > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. 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Guest guest Report post Posted November 13, 2009 Dear Devi singh ji and group, Lessons are very much crystal clear no doubt but we are mistaken sometimes as a beginer.Obviously we can not learn the basics so easily in a day or two rather it takes time to grasp the correct meaning of these lessons. My suggestion is,for better understanding keep reading all the lessons after regular interval of few weeks,solve charts as many as you can, you might be finding different and definite meaning of every lesson what guruji wants to teach us in actual. This is what i am doing till now exploring KAS. Do not hesitate to ask if you are stuck somehwre else this can pull you back leaving you with incomplete knowledge. Meanwhile i will request the group to focus on the chart given by Ash ji, only after finishing the first part for the three questions,samdharmi portion can be discussed in detail,if required,after this practise chart. Regards Anup --- On Fri, 13/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajputRe: Re: Practice Chart Date: Friday, 13 November, 2009, 1:31 PM Dear Anup Ji,NamskarFirst i would like to thank you again......very good judge....great help by point out incorrectness on emails...... .I have looked more and thought that something is deep still there for karyesh..... .However i will say that there are enough reasons for someone to grasp incorrectly. ......untill he came to group/gurus .......(which i feel group is doing best)Lessons are good start but requires more rectification. .......i think what is represented that is having something different meaning then what it conveyed to reader...... understanding behind that message is requires more elaboration. ......unfortunately i have came after reading all FAQ,All Lessons and 2000 achieves and solving 5-6 charts for marriage (obviously based on incorrect foundation). ........i guess that is not sufficient to hash out all questions.Good reference of emails is always there I suggest if moderators can include them in FAQ or else where....... for more reading to get firm with concept------------ ------ Regards, DevisinghAnup. M wrote: Dear Devi singh ji, Just wait,i hope members over here will try to explain you regarding your confusions. Regards Anup --- On Thu, 12/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com>Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chartastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comThursday, 12 November, 2009, 7:28 PM Dear Anup ji,It is really wondering for me.....something i guess incorrect in drafting/representa tion by me...let me try one more time in better way.....Please clarify CAPS...this is new to me?"2.All Planets cojoin in sign NO"By this i mean to say if two planets are in one sign in rashi chart ...for example ju and ma both are in Leo...both become samdharmi to each other....ma has low points so Ma can replace Ju "6.Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO"This is case where Ju is in Leo in rashi chart and Ma is in Leo in navamsa..... both are in Leo and become samdharmi"8.Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO"This is case where Ju with 5 point in Tarus and placed in 4th house....so LoD for 7th house is Ve and Ju can give result due to its placement so samdharmi to Ve ....can replace Ve"9.If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra NO"This is case Ju is with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ......and Ra represents Su/St......so Ju samdharmi to Su/St.....I Think this is my mistake we should not consider Ra as it does not have rulership of any sign"Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO"I think this is again not true as per your emails and lessons as well.......rather Mo natural samdharmi to Ma.......... ...Mo can replace Ma.However i have not got root cause/main reason for this ......rather what i think is Mo can not be boss .....Please clarify or provide any means where should i look?------------ ------ Regards, DevisinghAnup. M wrote: Dear Devi singh ji, My understanding is as per CAPS below. Regards Anup --- On Wed, 11/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com>Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chartastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comWednesday, 11 November, 2009, 6:30 PM Dear Anup ji,Thank you ....for corrections on emails.....this will keep me on track and avoiding out of track.If Planets in navamsa have 4:10 relation we should not consider them samdharmi that is input for me.Below is my understanding related to samdharmi what is gathered upto 2000 emails of achieves.... .putting here so may be help full to other members as well please have a look and comment on them where requires...i have arranged them on priority basis please provides your valuable comment for them where required Planets making 4:10 in rashi (offcourse boss and subordinate analogy) YES All Planets cojoin in sign NO Planet is samdharmi to Lord of nakshtra sign YES All Planets in same nakshatra YES All Planets cojoin in navamsa YES Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO Planet is samdharmi to Lord navamsa sign YES Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra NO Ra is samdharmi to sign lord and navamsa lord and planet cojoin in navamsa YESYes it is my mistake mo,ju,ma are not natural samdharmi as per KAS......Please forgive me i might done it knowingly but not intentionallyIn kalpurush chart ....looking 4:10St and Ve are samdharmi to each other....can replace each otherSu samdharmi to Ma...Su can replace Ma YESMa samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO------------ ------ Regards, DevisinghAnup. M wrote: Dear Devi singh ji, I think samdharmi concept is not clear somewhere in your mail Pleae note that .. MOON AND JU ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI JU AND MARS ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI. Also we do not consider 4:10 relation in navamsa. Regards Anup --- On Tue, 10/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com>Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chartastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comTuesday, 10 November, 2009, 6:56 PM Dear All;Some more thoughts to fix antraSt full delay but st have moved 15 degree so considering 27.5-1.3=26. 3 year initial valueJu aspects Hb in navamsa but is is in libra with rahu in navamsa and in nakshtra of St so it can not check to saturn so full delay no help from Ju to reduce delay as staus of Ju is not goodno zero in SAV so no addition in delayBlessing in navamsa but can not help to reduce delaySt is with Ra in rashi so more affilicted add delayMo aspected by Ra in rashi and St cojoin in navamsa ,As lumanaries are aspected so that will add delay Main dasha lord Mo is OK as karka to give 7th house eventsMo-MoMo LoD and Natural Samdharmi to Ju can give eventBut I think this would not be case as some what delay have to be addedMo-MaJu and Ma both in cancer one in rasi and another in navamsa makes them samdharmiJu and Ma both are natural samdharmiJu and Ma 4:10 in rashi/navamsaJu LoE and high point So Event can be in 3rd sector of it.Mo-RaRa represnts Su/Ve....considerin g more like Ve NK FK.... and cojoin Ju in navamsa so samdahrmi to Ju so Event can be in 3rd sector of it.......seems not wise choice still to meMo-JuJu Can give Event in 3rd Sector on itwill come up with more thought as gets educated to this system------------ ------ Regards, Devisinghdevisigh wrote: Dear Ash ji,NamaskarSincere thanks for your words attitude intension and time. I am trying my all time what i can collect to study this system. I guess this can takes time may be 3year (less points till that time also indicate hardwork and busy for me) Will continue my attempt/doubts hope for comments from moderators for same.I am enjoying achieves thanks to Krushna,sanjay, Donna,Peter, Magritta and all very nice considering old time and situation.hope that will helps me to understand and utilize system and finally to absorb root or essence of system so other all system and vedic text can be clarified with same so better results can be obtained related to timing of events.Everybody is trying/pushing here only to help others using there own approach It is really appreciated GOD WILL HELP THEM WHO HELPED OTHERSPlease find below is thought process/approach:I am taking acceptance that person is not mentally retired and birth details are correct no rectification requiredQuality of 7th house: checking Ju in Libra in rashi/navamsa. ...navamsa has that...it is RK,NRK and LoE..seems not good for marriage. checking Ve nakshatra in rashi...bharni. ..ok checking Su and Ve distance in rashi...less then 43...ok checking Ve is with Ra,St or aspect in rashi/navamsa. ....Ve is with St in navamsa....spoils Ve more checking LoA,LoB,LoC, LoD,LoE in rashi.....Ve, St..Mo,Ju checking planets with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ..Sa and Ju.....St is LoC and Ju is loE for 7th house and LoA for 5th house. checking Ra aspects on house in rashi/navamsa. ..9,12,2. .7,9,11.. 12th is HoE,2nd is HoA,9th is karak for HoA and HoC for child..7th is HB,11th is HC checking Ra aspects on planets in rashi and navamsa...Me, Su......Me 6th lord become more malefic and Su LoB for child case checking for planets with 6th/12th lord in rashi/navamsa. .... Ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord.....me is with ve in navamsa spoils ve. checking for aspects on house in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... checking for aspects on planets in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... cheking malefic aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....Ju with 5 points aspects to HoE,Ve with 6 points aspects to HB cheking benific aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....St with 2 points also LoC aspects to HB,HA and Mo aspects to HBBlessings,compatibi lity,DBCE, strong house,strong planets: as usual to be looked will look another timeFinding significator: checking for 2nd lord in rashi......Ve is 2nd lord...Ve antra will bring more pain looking at 2,7,11 lords...ve and st....ve is with 6 points and st is with 2 points ....left st less points and left ve 2nd lord looking at 2,7,11 occupents ...me and su...me is with 7 points and su is with 4 points ...left su less points and left me 6th lord looking at 4,12 occupents... ju and ke(ju/ju)... so ju....ju is with 5 points ....considering ju ...left as in Libra and aspect malefic to HOE consider Reperesnter for Ra/Ke...Su,Ve/ Ju,Ju.... ..left Ra as alresdy left su and ve,left ke as already left ju looking at 4,12 lords....Mo, ju....considerin g moon as already left ju....mo may act......... still requires more time for me to finalise------------ ------ Regards, DevisinghAsh's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca wrote: Dear Devisingh ji, Very nice attempt. Please continue your chain of thought. Try to find the antra that you think might give marriage. Just go upto antra. So first compute the delay and there after start to think over the best possible period that u think can give the event. However, do write your thinking process. That will help one figure out where you are going away or your confusion. Well Done. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan dtimingevents] On Behalf Of devisighThursday November 5, 2009 6:42 AMastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comRe: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart Dear All;My first attempt using KAS rules/techniques only7th house marriage:selecting Mo main Dasha which is with FK Ve for 7th houseSu and Ju seems significator from ws points for 7th houseother planets aspects 7th house i left themSu is with Me which is 6th load makes Su samdharmi to 6th lord i left thatJu having highest points and also LoEnow considering Ju only as strong significator which in RK and NRK and natural samdharmi to Mo which is LoD.Ju does not have sight on A/B/C and is LoE can gives resultsThinking for samdharmi of Juin navamsa Ju is with Ra ...makes Ju and Ra samdharmi Ra can be thought to facilitate results for 7th house matters .......still this takes time for me to finalize------------ ------ Regards, Devisinghashsam73 wrote: Dear Nikhlesh ji,You are correct. It was a typo. It was good that I gave the degree of all planets so this mistake could be checked right in the begining.Thanks Nikhlesh ji.The date should be May 24th.24th May 19794:10 AM28N4077E13Sorry about that.Cheers !!!Ash -> http://www.ashtro. caastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "nikhlesh mathur" <nikhleshmathur@ ...> wrote:>> > > Sub: 24th Feb 1979, 4.10 am, 28.N.40, 77.E.13> Dear Ash ji,> > You said that Su is 9Ta31 for the above native. But a person born on the month of Feb cannot have his Sun in Taurus sign. It should be in Aquarius at this time.> > If other things are okay then I think the birth date is 24th May.> > Please confirm.> > Regards,> Nikhlesh Mathur> > > On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:47:29 +0530 wrote> >> > Add to> this.> > > 6) When> can the native face health problems?> > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca> > > > > > Ash's Corner [kas] > Monday October 26, 2009> 12:18 AM> To:> 'astrologyandtiming events@grou ps.com'> Practice Chart> > > Dear> Group,> > > > This> lady has been posting charts in various lists for many years now. > > > > Here is> the chart > > > > 24th> Feb 1979> > 4:10 AM> > 28N40> > 77E13> > > > From> what I gather, she had an affair or liked some guy that she wanted to> marry. I am not clear from her posts> that if she married the same guy or not.> Her parents were looking out for some proposals for her.> > > > If this> chart came blindly to you, can you predict the following.> > > > 1)> Marriage> > 2)> Child birth> > 3)> Marital Relations overall> > 4)> She has been complaining that relations are bad after marriage and> asked if she should go for divorce.> > 5)> Why she had affair or what are the yogs for that in this chart. > > > > > > > > > Planet> > > Degrees> > > > > As> > > 15 Ar 55> > > > > Su> > > 9 Ta 31> > > > > Mo> > > 13 Ar 48> > > > > Ma> > > 13 Ar 8> > > > > Me> > > 2 Ta 15> > > > > Ju> > > 11 Cn 16> > > > > Ve> > > 14 Ar 30> > > > > Sa> > > 14 Le 35> > > > > Ra> > > 20 Le 59> > > > > Ke> > > 20 Aq 59> > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca> The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. 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Guest guest Report post Posted November 13, 2009 Dear Anup Ji, My Mistake......again very good Judge on correctness of email.....I accepts Its my fault. Thanks......will look forward ------------------ Regards, Devisingh Anup. M wrote:  Dear Devi singh ji and group,   Lessons are very much crystal clear no doubt but we are mistaken sometimes as a beginer.Obviously we can not learn the basics so easily in a day or two rather it takes time to grasp the correct meaning of these lessons.   My suggestion is,for better understanding keep reading all the lessons after regular interval of few weeks,solve charts as many as you can, you might be finding different and definite meaning of every lesson what guruji wants to teach us in actual.  This is what i am doing till now exploring KAS.  Do not hesitate to ask if you are stuck somehwre else this can pull you back leaving you with incomplete knowledge.   Meanwhile i will request the group to focus on the chart given by Ash ji, only after finishing the first part for the three questions,samdharmi portion can be discussed in detail,if required,after this practise chart.   Regards Anup                  --- On Fri, 13/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput > wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajput > Re: Re: Practice Chart Friday, 13 November, 2009, 1:31 PM  Dear Anup Ji, Namskar First i would like to thank you again......very good judge....great help by point out incorrectness on emails...... .I have looked more and thought that something is deep still there for karyesh..... . However i will say that there are enough reasons for someone to grasp incorrectly. ......untill he came to group/gurus .......(which i feel group is doing best) Lessons are good start but requires more rectification. .......i think what is represented that is having something different meaning then what it conveyed to reader...... understanding behind that message is requires more elaboration. ...... unfortunately i have came after reading all FAQ,All Lessons and 2000 achieves and solving 5-6 charts for marriage (obviously based on incorrect foundation). ........i guess that is not sufficient to hash out all questions. Good reference of emails is always there I suggest if moderators can include them in FAQ or else where....... for more reading to get firm with concept ------------ ------ Regards, Devisingh Anup. M wrote:  Dear Devi singh ji,   Just wait,i hope members over here will try to explain you regarding your confusions.   Regards Anup  --- On Thu, 12/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com Thursday, 12 November, 2009, 7:28 PM  Dear Anup ji, It is really wondering for me.....something i guess incorrect in drafting/representa tion by me...let me try one more time in better way..... Please clarify CAPS...this is new to me? "2.All Planets cojoin in sign   NO" By this i mean to say if two planets are in one sign in rashi chart ....for example ju and ma both are in Leo...both become samdharmi to each other....ma has low points so Ma can replace Ju "6.Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa)    NO" This is case where Ju is in Leo in rashi chart and Ma is in Leo in navamsa..... both are in Leo and become samdharmi "8.Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected)      NO" This is case where Ju with 5 point in Tarus and placed in 4th house....so LoD for 7th house is Ve and Ju can give result due to its placement so samdharmi to Ve ....can replace Ve "9.If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra    NO" This is case Ju is with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ......and Ra represents Su/St......so Ju samdharmi to Su/St.....I Think this is my mistake we should not consider Ra as it does not have rulership of any sign "Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO" I think this is again not true as per your emails and lessons as well.......rather Mo natural samdharmi to Ma.......... ...Mo can replace Ma. However i have not got root cause/main reason for this ......rather what i think is Mo can not be boss .....Please clarify or provide any means where should i look? ------------ ------ Regards, Devisingh Anup. M wrote:  Dear Devi singh ji,   My understanding is as per CAPS below.  Regards Anup --- On Wed, 11/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com Wednesday, 11 November, 2009, 6:30 PM  Dear Anup ji, Thank you ....for corrections on emails.....this will keep me on track and avoiding out of track. If Planets in navamsa have 4:10 relation we should not consider them samdharmi that is input for me. Below is my understanding related to samdharmi what is gathered upto 2000 emails of achieves.... .putting here so may be help full to other members as well please have a look and comment on them where requires...i have arranged them on priority basis please provides your valuable comment for them where required Planets making 4:10 in rashi (offcourse boss and subordinate analogy) YES All Planets cojoin in sign   NO Planet is samdharmi to Lord of nakshtra sign  YES All Planets in same nakshatra   YES All Planets cojoin in navamsa   YES Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa)    NO Planet is samdharmi to Lord navamsa sign     YES Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected)      NO If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra    NO Ra is samdharmi to sign lord and navamsa lord and planet cojoin in navamsa    YES Yes it is my mistake mo,ju,ma are not natural samdharmi as per KAS......Please forgive me i might done it knowingly but not intentionally In kalpurush chart ....looking 4:10 St and Ve are samdharmi to each other....can replace each other Su samdharmi to Ma...Su can replace Ma           YES Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO ------------ ------ Regards, Devisingh Anup. M wrote:  Dear Devi singh ji,   I think samdharmi concept is not clear somewhere in your mail  Pleae note that .. MOON AND JU ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI JU AND MARS ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI.  Also we do not consider 4:10 relation in navamsa.   Regards Anup  --- On Tue, 10/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com Tuesday, 10 November, 2009, 6:56 PM  Dear All; Some more thoughts to fix antra St full delay but st have moved 15 degree so considering 27.5-1.3=26. 3 year initial value Ju aspects Hb in navamsa but is is in libra with rahu in navamsa and in nakshtra of St so it can not check to saturn so full delay no help from Ju to reduce delay as staus of Ju is not good no zero in SAV so no addition in delay Blessing in navamsa but can not help to reduce delay St is with Ra in rashi so more affilicted add delay Mo aspected by Ra in rashi and St cojoin in navamsa ,As lumanaries are aspected so that will add delay Main dasha lord Mo is OK as karka to give 7th house events Mo-Mo Mo LoD and Natural Samdharmi to Ju can give event But I think this would not be case as some what delay have to be added Mo-Ma Ju and Ma both in cancer one in rasi and another in navamsa makes them samdharmi Ju and Ma both are natural samdharmi Ju and Ma 4:10 in rashi/navamsa Ju LoE and high point So Event can be in 3rd sector of it. Mo-Ra Ra represnts Su/Ve....considerin g more like Ve NK FK.... and cojoin Ju in navamsa so samdahrmi to Ju so Event can be in 3rd sector of it.......seems not wise choice still to me Mo-Ju Ju Can give Event in 3rd Sector on it will come up with more thought as gets educated to this system ------------ ------ Regards, Devisingh devisigh wrote: Dear Ash ji, Namaskar Sincere thanks for your words attitude intension and time. I am trying my all time what i can collect to study this system. I guess this can takes time may be 3year (less points till that time also indicate hardwork and busy for me) Will continue my attempt/doubts hope for comments from moderators for same. I am enjoying achieves thanks to Krushna,sanjay, Donna,Peter, Magritta and all very nice considering old time and situation. hope that will helps me to understand and utilize system and finally to absorb root or essence of system so other all system and vedic text can be clarified with same so better results can be obtained related to timing of events. Everybody is trying/pushing here only to help others using there own approach It is really appreciated GOD WILL HELP THEM WHO HELPED OTHERS Please find below is thought process/approach: I am taking acceptance that person is not mentally retired and birth details are correct no rectification required Quality of 7th house: checking Ju in Libra in rashi/navamsa. ...navamsa has that...it is RK,NRK and LoE..seems not good for marriage. checking Ve nakshatra in rashi...bharni. ..ok checking Su and Ve distance in rashi...less then 43...ok checking Ve is with Ra,St or aspect in rashi/navamsa. ....Ve is with St in navamsa....spoils Ve more checking LoA,LoB,LoC, LoD,LoE in rashi.....Ve, St..Mo,Ju checking planets with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ..Sa and Ju.....St is LoC and Ju is loE for 7th house and LoA for 5th house. checking Ra aspects on house in rashi/navamsa. ..9,12,2. .7,9,11.. 12th is HoE,2nd is HoA,9th is karak for HoA and HoC for child..7th is HB,11th is HC checking Ra aspects on planets in rashi and navamsa...Me, Su......Me 6th lord become more malefic and Su LoB for child case checking for planets with 6th/12th lord in rashi/navamsa. .... Ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord.....me is with ve in navamsa spoils ve. checking for aspects on house in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... checking for aspects on planets in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... cheking malefic aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....Ju with 5 points aspects to HoE,Ve with 6 points aspects to HB cheking benific aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....St with 2 points also LoC aspects to HB,HA and Mo aspects to HB Blessings,compatibi lity,DBCE, strong house,strong planets: as usual to be looked will look another time Finding significator: checking for 2nd lord in rashi......Ve is 2nd lord...Ve antra will bring more pain looking at 2,7,11 lords...ve and st....ve is with 6 points and st is with 2 points .....left st less points and left ve 2nd lord looking at 2,7,11 occupents ...me and su...me is with 7 points and su is with 4 points ....left su less points and left me 6th lord looking at 4,12 occupents... ju and ke(ju/ju)... so ju....ju is with 5 points .....considering ju ...left as in Libra and aspect malefic to HOE consider Reperesnter for Ra/Ke...Su,Ve/ Ju,Ju.... ..left Ra as alresdy left su and ve,left ke as already left ju looking at 4,12 lords....Mo, ju....considerin g moon as already left ju....mo may act......... still requires more time for me to finalise ------------ ------ Regards, Devisingh Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca wrote:  Dear Devisingh ji,  Very nice attempt. Please continue your chain of thought.  Try to find the antra that you think might give marriage. Just go upto antra.  So first compute the delay and there after start to think over the best possible period that u think can give the event.  However, do write your thinking process. That will help one figure out where you are going away or your confusion.  Well Done.  Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca  astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan dtimingevents@ . com] On Behalf Of devisigh Thursday November 5, 2009 6:42 AM astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart   Dear All; My first attempt using KAS rules/techniques only 7th house marriage: selecting Mo main Dasha which is with FK Ve for 7th house Su and Ju seems significator from ws points for 7th house other planets aspects 7th house i left them Su is with Me which is 6th load makes Su samdharmi to 6th lord i left that Ju having highest points and also LoE now considering Ju only as strong significator which in RK and NRK and natural samdharmi to Mo which is LoD. Ju does not have sight on A/B/C and is LoE can gives results Thinking for samdharmi of Ju in navamsa Ju is with Ra ...makes Ju and Ra samdharmi Ra can be thought to facilitate results for 7th house matters ........still this takes time for me to finalize ------------ ------ Regards, Devisingh ashsam73 wrote:  Dear Nikhlesh ji, You are correct. It was a typo. It was good that I gave the degree of all planets so this mistake could be checked right in the begining. Thanks Nikhlesh ji. The date should be May 24th. 24th May 1979 4:10 AM 28N40 77E13 Sorry about that. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "nikhlesh mathur" <nikhleshmathur@ ...> wrote: > > > > Sub: 24th Feb 1979, 4.10 am, 28.N.40, 77.E.13 > Dear Ash ji, > > You said that Su is 9Ta31 for the above native. But a person born on the month of Feb cannot have his Sun in Taurus sign. It should be in Aquarius at this time. > > If other things are okay then I think the birth date is 24th May. > > Please confirm. > > Regards, > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:47:29 +0530 wrote > > > > Add to > this. > > > 6) When > can the native face health problems? > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca > > > > > > Ash's Corner [kas] > Monday October 26, 2009 > 12:18 AM > To: > 'astrologyandtiming events@grou ps.com' > Practice Chart > > > Dear > Group, > > > > This > lady has been posting charts in various lists for many years now. > > > > Here is > the chart > > > > 24th > Feb 1979 > > 4:10 AM > > 28N40 > > 77E13 > > > > From > what I gather, she had an affair or liked some guy that she wanted to > marry. I am not clear from her posts > that if she married the same guy or not. > Her parents were looking out for some proposals for her. > > > > If this > chart came blindly to you, can you predict the following. > > > > 1) > Marriage > > 2) > Child birth > > 3) > Marital Relations overall > > 4) > She has been complaining that relations are bad after marriage and > asked if she should go for divorce. > > 5) > Why she had affair or what are the yogs for that in this chart. > > > > > > > > > Planet > > > Degrees > > > > > As > > > 15 Ar 55 > > > > > Su > > > 9 Ta 31 > > > > > Mo > > > 13 Ar 48 > > > > > Ma > > > 13 Ar 8 > > > > > Me > > > 2 Ta 15 > > > > > Ju > > > 11 Cn 16 > > > > > Ve > > > 14 Ar 30 > > > > > Sa > > > 14 Le 35 > > > > > Ra > > > 20 Le 59 > > > > > Ke > > > 20 Aq 59 > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca >  The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. 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Guest guest Report post Posted November 13, 2009 Dear Devi singh ji and group, Good to see your spirit while ibeing in KAS. Basic part is mandatory else even if you penetrate to correct antra in this chart,that will be deemed way off otherwise. Never give up and go ahead,my wish for all. Regards Anup --- On Fri, 13/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajputRe: Re: Practice Chart Date: Friday, 13 November, 2009, 6:55 PM Dear Anup Ji,My Mistake..... .again very good Judge on correctness of email.....I accepts Its my fault.Thanks...... will look forward------------ ------ Regards, DevisinghAnup. M wrote: Dear Devi singh ji and group, Lessons are very much crystal clear no doubt but we are mistaken sometimes as a beginer.Obviously we can not learn the basics so easily in a day or two rather it takes time to grasp the correct meaning of these lessons. My suggestion is,for better understanding keep reading all the lessons after regular interval of few weeks,solve charts as many as you can, you might be finding different and definite meaning of every lesson what guruji wants to teach us in actual. This is what i am doing till now exploring KAS. Do not hesitate to ask if you are stuck somehwre else this can pull you back leaving you with incomplete knowledge. Meanwhile i will request the group to focus on the chart given by Ash ji, only after finishing the first part for the three questions,samdharmi portion can be discussed in detail,if required,after this practise chart. Regards Anup --- On Fri, 13/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com>Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chartastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comFriday, 13 November, 2009, 1:31 PM Dear Anup Ji,NamskarFirst i would like to thank you again......very good judge....great help by point out incorrectness on emails...... .I have looked more and thought that something is deep still there for karyesh..... .However i will say that there are enough reasons for someone to grasp incorrectly. ......untill he came to group/gurus .......(which i feel group is doing best)Lessons are good start but requires more rectification. .......i think what is represented that is having something different meaning then what it conveyed to reader...... understanding behind that message is requires more elaboration. ......unfortunately i have came after reading all FAQ,All Lessons and 2000 achieves and solving 5-6 charts for marriage (obviously based on incorrect foundation). ........i guess that is not sufficient to hash out all questions.Good reference of emails is always there I suggest if moderators can include them in FAQ or else where....... for more reading to get firm with concept------------ ------ Regards, DevisinghAnup. M wrote: Dear Devi singh ji, Just wait,i hope members over here will try to explain you regarding your confusions. Regards Anup --- On Thu, 12/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com>Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chartastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comThursday, 12 November, 2009, 7:28 PM Dear Anup ji,It is really wondering for me.....something i guess incorrect in drafting/representa tion by me...let me try one more time in better way.....Please clarify CAPS...this is new to me?"2.All Planets cojoin in sign NO"By this i mean to say if two planets are in one sign in rashi chart ...for example ju and ma both are in Leo...both become samdharmi to each other....ma has low points so Ma can replace Ju "6.Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO"This is case where Ju is in Leo in rashi chart and Ma is in Leo in navamsa..... both are in Leo and become samdharmi"8.Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO"This is case where Ju with 5 point in Tarus and placed in 4th house....so LoD for 7th house is Ve and Ju can give result due to its placement so samdharmi to Ve ....can replace Ve"9.If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra NO"This is case Ju is with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ......and Ra represents Su/St......so Ju samdharmi to Su/St.....I Think this is my mistake we should not consider Ra as it does not have rulership of any sign"Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO"I think this is again not true as per your emails and lessons as well.......rather Mo natural samdharmi to Ma.......... ...Mo can replace Ma.However i have not got root cause/main reason for this ......rather what i think is Mo can not be boss .....Please clarify or provide any means where should i look?------------ ------ Regards, DevisinghAnup. M wrote: Dear Devi singh ji, My understanding is as per CAPS below. Regards Anup --- On Wed, 11/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com>Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chartastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comWednesday, 11 November, 2009, 6:30 PM Dear Anup ji,Thank you ....for corrections on emails.....this will keep me on track and avoiding out of track.If Planets in navamsa have 4:10 relation we should not consider them samdharmi that is input for me.Below is my understanding related to samdharmi what is gathered upto 2000 emails of achieves.... .putting here so may be help full to other members as well please have a look and comment on them where requires...i have arranged them on priority basis please provides your valuable comment for them where required Planets making 4:10 in rashi (offcourse boss and subordinate analogy) YES All Planets cojoin in sign NO Planet is samdharmi to Lord of nakshtra sign YES All Planets in same nakshatra YES All Planets cojoin in navamsa YES Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO Planet is samdharmi to Lord navamsa sign YES Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra NO Ra is samdharmi to sign lord and navamsa lord and planet cojoin in navamsa YESYes it is my mistake mo,ju,ma are not natural samdharmi as per KAS......Please forgive me i might done it knowingly but not intentionallyIn kalpurush chart ....looking 4:10St and Ve are samdharmi to each other....can replace each otherSu samdharmi to Ma...Su can replace Ma YESMa samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO------------ ------ Regards, DevisinghAnup. M wrote: Dear Devi singh ji, I think samdharmi concept is not clear somewhere in your mail Pleae note that .. MOON AND JU ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI JU AND MARS ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI. Also we do not consider 4:10 relation in navamsa. Regards Anup --- On Tue, 10/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com>Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chartastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comTuesday, 10 November, 2009, 6:56 PM Dear All;Some more thoughts to fix antraSt full delay but st have moved 15 degree so considering 27.5-1.3=26. 3 year initial valueJu aspects Hb in navamsa but is is in libra with rahu in navamsa and in nakshtra of St so it can not check to saturn so full delay no help from Ju to reduce delay as staus of Ju is not goodno zero in SAV so no addition in delayBlessing in navamsa but can not help to reduce delaySt is with Ra in rashi so more affilicted add delayMo aspected by Ra in rashi and St cojoin in navamsa ,As lumanaries are aspected so that will add delay Main dasha lord Mo is OK as karka to give 7th house eventsMo-MoMo LoD and Natural Samdharmi to Ju can give eventBut I think this would not be case as some what delay have to be addedMo-MaJu and Ma both in cancer one in rasi and another in navamsa makes them samdharmiJu and Ma both are natural samdharmiJu and Ma 4:10 in rashi/navamsaJu LoE and high point So Event can be in 3rd sector of it.Mo-RaRa represnts Su/Ve....considerin g more like Ve NK FK.... and cojoin Ju in navamsa so samdahrmi to Ju so Event can be in 3rd sector of it.......seems not wise choice still to meMo-JuJu Can give Event in 3rd Sector on itwill come up with more thought as gets educated to this system------------ ------ Regards, Devisinghdevisigh wrote: Dear Ash ji,NamaskarSincere thanks for your words attitude intension and time. I am trying my all time what i can collect to study this system. I guess this can takes time may be 3year (less points till that time also indicate hardwork and busy for me) Will continue my attempt/doubts hope for comments from moderators for same.I am enjoying achieves thanks to Krushna,sanjay, Donna,Peter, Magritta and all very nice considering old time and situation.hope that will helps me to understand and utilize system and finally to absorb root or essence of system so other all system and vedic text can be clarified with same so better results can be obtained related to timing of events.Everybody is trying/pushing here only to help others using there own approach It is really appreciated GOD WILL HELP THEM WHO HELPED OTHERSPlease find below is thought process/approach:I am taking acceptance that person is not mentally retired and birth details are correct no rectification requiredQuality of 7th house: checking Ju in Libra in rashi/navamsa. ...navamsa has that...it is RK,NRK and LoE..seems not good for marriage. checking Ve nakshatra in rashi...bharni. ..ok checking Su and Ve distance in rashi...less then 43...ok checking Ve is with Ra,St or aspect in rashi/navamsa. ....Ve is with St in navamsa....spoils Ve more checking LoA,LoB,LoC, LoD,LoE in rashi.....Ve, St..Mo,Ju checking planets with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ..Sa and Ju.....St is LoC and Ju is loE for 7th house and LoA for 5th house. checking Ra aspects on house in rashi/navamsa. ..9,12,2. .7,9,11.. 12th is HoE,2nd is HoA,9th is karak for HoA and HoC for child..7th is HB,11th is HC checking Ra aspects on planets in rashi and navamsa...Me, Su......Me 6th lord become more malefic and Su LoB for child case checking for planets with 6th/12th lord in rashi/navamsa. .... Ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord.....me is with ve in navamsa spoils ve. checking for aspects on house in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... checking for aspects on planets in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... cheking malefic aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....Ju with 5 points aspects to HoE,Ve with 6 points aspects to HB cheking benific aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....St with 2 points also LoC aspects to HB,HA and Mo aspects to HBBlessings,compatibi lity,DBCE, strong house,strong planets: as usual to be looked will look another timeFinding significator: checking for 2nd lord in rashi......Ve is 2nd lord...Ve antra will bring more pain looking at 2,7,11 lords...ve and st....ve is with 6 points and st is with 2 points ....left st less points and left ve 2nd lord looking at 2,7,11 occupents ...me and su...me is with 7 points and su is with 4 points ...left su less points and left me 6th lord looking at 4,12 occupents... ju and ke(ju/ju)... so ju....ju is with 5 points ....considering ju ...left as in Libra and aspect malefic to HOE consider Reperesnter for Ra/Ke...Su,Ve/ Ju,Ju.... ..left Ra as alresdy left su and ve,left ke as already left ju looking at 4,12 lords....Mo, ju....considerin g moon as already left ju....mo may act......... still requires more time for me to finalise------------ ------ Regards, DevisinghAsh's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca wrote: Dear Devisingh ji, Very nice attempt. Please continue your chain of thought. Try to find the antra that you think might give marriage. Just go upto antra. So first compute the delay and there after start to think over the best possible period that u think can give the event. However, do write your thinking process. That will help one figure out where you are going away or your confusion. Well Done. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan dtimingevents] On Behalf Of devisighThursday November 5, 2009 6:42 AMastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comRe: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart Dear All;My first attempt using KAS rules/techniques only7th house marriage:selecting Mo main Dasha which is with FK Ve for 7th houseSu and Ju seems significator from ws points for 7th houseother planets aspects 7th house i left themSu is with Me which is 6th load makes Su samdharmi to 6th lord i left thatJu having highest points and also LoEnow considering Ju only as strong significator which in RK and NRK and natural samdharmi to Mo which is LoD.Ju does not have sight on A/B/C and is LoE can gives resultsThinking for samdharmi of Juin navamsa Ju is with Ra ...makes Ju and Ra samdharmi Ra can be thought to facilitate results for 7th house matters .......still this takes time for me to finalize------------ ------ Regards, Devisinghashsam73 wrote: Dear Nikhlesh ji,You are correct. It was a typo. It was good that I gave the degree of all planets so this mistake could be checked right in the begining.Thanks Nikhlesh ji.The date should be May 24th.24th May 19794:10 AM28N4077E13Sorry about that.Cheers !!!Ash -> http://www.ashtro. caastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "nikhlesh mathur" <nikhleshmathur@ ...> wrote:>> > > Sub: 24th Feb 1979, 4.10 am, 28.N.40, 77.E.13> Dear Ash ji,> > You said that Su is 9Ta31 for the above native. But a person born on the month of Feb cannot have his Sun in Taurus sign. It should be in Aquarius at this time.> > If other things are okay then I think the birth date is 24th May.> > Please confirm.> > Regards,> Nikhlesh Mathur> > > On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:47:29 +0530 wrote> >> > Add to> this.> > > 6) When> can the native face health problems?> > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca> > > > > > Ash's Corner [kas] > Monday October 26, 2009> 12:18 AM> To:> 'astrologyandtiming events@grou ps.com'> Practice Chart> > > Dear> Group,> > > > This> lady has been posting charts in various lists for many years now. > > > > Here is> the chart > > > > 24th> Feb 1979> > 4:10 AM> > 28N40> > 77E13> > > > From> what I gather, she had an affair or liked some guy that she wanted to> marry. I am not clear from her posts> that if she married the same guy or not.> Her parents were looking out for some proposals for her.> > > > If this> chart came blindly to you, can you predict the following.> > > > 1)> Marriage> > 2)> Child birth> > 3)> Marital Relations overall> > 4)> She has been complaining that relations are bad after marriage and> asked if she should go for divorce.> > 5)> Why she had affair or what are the yogs for that in this chart. > > > > > > > > > Planet> > > Degrees> > > > > As> > > 15 Ar 55> > > > > Su> > > 9 Ta 31> > > > > Mo> > > 13 Ar 48> > > > > Ma> > > 13 Ar 8> > > > > Me> > > 2 Ta 15> > > > > Ju> > > 11 Cn 16> > > > > Ve> > > 14 Ar 30> > > > > Sa> > > 14 Le 35> > > > > Ra> > > 20 Le 59> > > > > Ke> > > 20 Aq 59> > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca> The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. 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Guest guest Report post Posted November 13, 2009 Dear Hussein ji, Just think deeper on this please. Su and Ma are natural NSD.  Leo is 10th house from Sco and Aries and Leo are in 5:9. So Sun is boss and Ma is subordinate. So aren’t we covering this in our lessons? You are confusing NSD with FSD. Our laws are covering all these angles and in depth. Now, if Sun is say 19 deg and Ma is in 11 deg  then again we will go to second level and check by Bindu. If Mangal in Capricorn has less than 4 bindus and Sun is in Aries with more than 4 then again they will become more powerful SD but at the same time, the native of such a chart might have to make a lot of scarifies. In case, if Sun is with less than 4 bindus in Aries and Mars in Capricorn has more than 4 bindus and if Sun is at 19 deg Aries and Ma is 11 deg Cap then Sun will oppose Mangal and such a person will face a lot of problems and might not be successful or say such a native will have face a lot of difficulties in life and success will not come easily and if it comes based on other parameters it will be at a very huge price. Just understand what I am saying here. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Hussein Friday November 13, 2009 1:19 AM To: Subject: Re: Practice Chart Dear Ash ji I learned all thing which you explain very good about 4:10. But still I have a doubt about that rule.AS per That rule say Su is in Mesha,and Ma is in Makara,then both Su and Ma are mutual significator.On that rule have not said anything about 4:10 relation and bindus.Please note " mutual significator " .As you told,I will leave it ,but still doubts are there. Best Wishes Hussein , " Ash's Corner " <kas wrote: > > Dear Hussein ji, > > I have given a detailed explanation, still if you do not understand it, leave it. In due course of time, when such charts come up, it will get clear. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > On Behalf Of Hussein > Thursday November 12, 2009 5:25 PM > > Re: Practice Chart > > > Dear Ash ji > > Nir ji has given a good example.I think it will be clear what I say. > > Best Wishes > > Hussein > , " nirvana_seeker3 " nirvana_seeker3@ wrote: > > > > The way I understood this is as following - > > > > Let's take an example. Lagna is Cancer. Jupiter is in lagna (in traditional VA, it will be considered as exalted). Saturn is in 4th house (again exalted) and Mars is in 10th in Aries (owns this sign and in kendra). In this example, according to this dictum, as I understand it is that Saturn, Jupiter and Mars will all be samdharmis. Jupiter and Mars are in 4:10 and so are Jupiter and Saturn. But Saturn and Mars are 1:7. > > > > Jupiter and Mars and similarly Juptier and Saturn can be explained by 4:10 theory the way you explained. However, the addition here is Saturn and Mars. > > > > Am I missing something? > > > > Nir. > > > > , " Ash's Corner@ " kas@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Hussein ji and NS ji, > > > > > > Please read the sentence above that as well. > > > > > >  " > > > (If, in the above case, planet 'A' had less points then 'B', then planet 'A' would behave in a reverse way and might give adverse results if it didn't receive more than 12 points in its final tally, as indicated in the worksheet.)†> > > > > > The essence of that write up is that how 4:10 is being advocated by Saravali and others. That said, in our system, we go one step further to classify the same i.e. > > > > > > 1) Planet in 10th place if its less than 4 bindus and Planet in 4th house from it is with more than 4 bindus > > > 2) Planet in 10th place if its with more than 4 bindus and planet in 4th place from it is with less than 4 bindus > > > 3) Planet in 10th place is with 4 bindus and planet in 4th place from it is with more than 4 bindus > > > > > > So, in all the above case there is a very big difference on how the result will be. In the 1st case both planets will give good result as they will become very powerful SD as there is power transfer and in the WS the power will go up for all 12 house for the planet in 10th house that controls the planet in 4th house so in both antras result will be good. > > > > > > In second case, there is opposition. Planet in 10th place is with more than 4 bindus so its in House D for the 4th house from it so it will give the event or become eager but the planet in the 4th place will oppose the karaktwa of the planet in 10th place so during the antras very different results will be there. > > > > > > In the 3rd case, if the planet in 10th place is LoD or LoE then it will control the planet and will act like case 1 but for the house that it is not LoD or LoE it will not become SD and there will be no power transfer as there will not be any control of planet in 10th place on the planet in 4th place from it. > > > > > > Please understand this. > > > > > > Now since we are talking about 4:10 then our focus is on case 1 given above as we are studying positive things and trying to give the person who comes to u for getting a reading some hope. But it does not mean that other 2 scenarios are not there. > > > > > > Please do not get confused about this and get concept firm in your mind. So in case 1 only they will become mutual karaks means they can replace each other and in KAS terminology they become Samdharmi and that too 2 way means that both can replace each other. But only for case 1 and for case 3 in case the lord in 10th place is LoD or LoE for those house it will become SD with power transfer. But for case 2, it will be reverse effect. Planet in 4th place will oppose planet in 10th place and one will get the result accordingly. > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > On Behalf Of Hussein > > > Thursday November 12, 2009 3:44 PM > > > > > > Re: Practice Chart > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash ji > > > > > > Anup ji had sent a text which Guru ji had explained SD rules there maybe in a class or worlshop(( 15th Aug 2008 2nd)).Anup ji sent this as a message in the group.I've saved that lessson as word file but don't know the number of message. > > > > > > Here is that rule: > > > > > > " > > > Sloka 6: > > > There is a reference in Saravali regarding two planets in Kendras (angle houses †" 1, 4, 7, 10), becoming mutual significators. We have a similar law in this system also. > > > > > > Saravali Chapter 6 sloka - 1, 2 and 3: > > > > > > Swarkshatrikonntund astha yadi kendreshu sansthitaI > > > Anyonyam karakste syu: kendreshvev harermtamII 1II > > > > > > Ravitanyo jookstha: kulirlagne bruhaspatihimanshuI > > > Meshe kujo raviyut: pararsparm karaka ete II2II > > > > > > Tungsuhrutkhgruhnas he stitha gruha: karaka: samakhyata:I > > > Meshurane ch raviriti visheshto vakti chanakya: II 3II > > > > > > > > > MEANING: When two planets are in a Kendra and are exalted or own the house they are in, they become mutual karakas or significators. In the above sloka, Acharya Vishnugupt says that this happens only with respect to Kendras. One example, (as illustrated in Fig.37) for the Cancer lagna is given, with Saturn in Libra, the Moon and Jupiter in the lagna, Sun and Mars in Aries. In this case, all of them became mutual karakas. Similarly, some authors say that planets that are mutually angular though not necessarily from the ascendant are also mutual significators. For our purposes, when two planets are exalted or own the Kendra house they are in, making them mutual karakas, this is also a phenomenon that we use in this system. > > > > > > Best Wishes > > > > > > Hussein > > > , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Hussein ji? > > > > > > > > What law is that????? Please explain or show me the mail number so I can read that and understand what context? > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Hussein > > > > Thursday November 12, 2009 2:49 PM > > > > > > > > Re: Practice Chart > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash ji > > > > > > > > I think another rule which is available for SDs is that :the planets which are in the exaltation sign or > > > > > > > > are in their own kendra are SD for each other. > > > > > > > > Best Wishes > > > > > > > > Hussein > > > > , " Ash's Corner@ " kas@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bella ji, > > > > > > > > > > Just one small correction from my side on my earlier mail. > > > > > > > > > > The order or SD will be > > > > > > > > > > 1) 4:10 > > > > > 2) Same Sign & Nak > > > > > 3) Same Navamsa > > > > > 4) Navamsa lord > > > > > 5) Nakshatra lord. > > > > > > > > > > NSD if they get a chance they will give, that depends on fixed relationship as per natural chart. So there is no order for the same. Except that if they are in 1:7 then they cease to become NSDÃÆ'¢â‚¬â„¢s. > > > > > > > > > > The reason for the above order is that if you notice that the last 2 are only one way, means planet comes sd to navamsa lord or nak lord so its one way. Means planet can replace the nav lord or nak lord if they are unable to give the result but not vice versa. > > > > > When planets are in same navamsa then they are 2 way means both can replace each other. > > > > > > > > > > Hence the distinction. > > > > > > > > > > Just try to understand the essence of the same. > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of BPShiv > > > > > Thursday November 12, 2009 12:48 PM > > > > > > > > > > Re: Re: Practice Chart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'¯Â»Â¿ > > > > > Dear Devi Singh ji, > > > > > My answers are in purple. Seniors please correct my errors as this is the very basic portion of KAS that we are strengthening. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please clarify CAPS...this is new to me? > > > > > > > > > > " 2.All Planets cojoin in sign NO " > > > > > By this i mean to say if two planets are in one sign in rashi chart ...for example ju and ma both are in Leo...both become samdharmi to each other....ma has low points so Ma can replace Ju > > > > > NO. Not in Rasi BUT YES in navamsa. If Ju and Ma are in Leo in Rasi they cannot be SD but if they are in same navamsa then they are SD. > > > > > In Rasi Ju and Ma have to be in the same sign AND also in the same nakshatra. > > > > > > > > > > " 6.Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO " > > > > > This is case where Ju is in Leo in rashi chart and Ma is in Leo in navamsa.....both are in Leo and become samdharmi > > > > > No. But according to lesson 25 they could be SD if they both have more points. > > > > > > > > > > " 8.Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO " > > > > > This is case where Ju with 5 point in Tarus and placed in 4th house....so LoD for 7th house is Ve and Ju can give result due to its placement so samdharmi to Ve ....can replace Ve > > > > > NO. Planet is not SD to sign Lo itself in Rasi. > > > > > Here in your example if you are talking about 4:10 relationship than if Ju has 5 bindus in 4th place and if Ma is in 10th place with 3 bindus than Ju can be SD to Ma provided it has more bindus. > > > > > > > > > > " 9.If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra NO " > > > > > This is case Ju is with Ra in rashi/navamsa.......and Ra represents Su/St......so Ju samdharmi to Su/St.....I Think this is my mistake we should not consider Ra as it does not have rulership of any sign > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NO. Ju is not SD to Su. > > > > > In this case if Ju is with Ra in rasi they are not SD. If they are in Leo that means Ra represents Su. Also we have to see nakshatra Lo that Ra is in. Say Ra is in nakshatra of Ve and from two of them whichever has more bindus Ra will represent like them. If Ve has 5 bindus and Su has 3 bindus than Ra will be more like Ve and less like Su also have to check the points in WS. > > > > > Now if Ra is with Ju in Sa navamsa than Ra is SD to Ju and SD to Sa. > > > > > To summarize this ex. Ra REPRESENTS Ve and is SD to Ju and Sa. > > > > > > > > > > " Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO " > > > > > I think this is again not true as per your emails and lessons as well.......rather Mo natural samdharmi to Ma.............Mo can replace Ma. > > > > > However i have not got root cause/main reason for this .......rather what i think is Mo can not be boss .....Please clarify or provide any means where should i look? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes. If Ma is in navamsa of Mo than Ma is SD to Mo and Ma can fill in for Mo. > > > > > Also, please refer to Ash ji's msg # 20953 link. Nice update and more clarifications. > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > -Bella. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > Anup. M <dalh_1@ > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, November 12, 2009 8:48 AM > > > > > Re: Re: Practice Chart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Devi singh ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just wait,i hope members over here will try to explain you > > > > > regarding your confusions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 12/11/09, devisigh devisingh.rajput@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > devisigh devisingh.rajput@ > > > > > Re: Re: Practice Chart > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, 12 November, 2009, 7:28 PM > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anup ji, > > > > > > > > > > It is really wondering for me.....something i guess incorrect in drafting/representa tion by me...let me try one more time in better way..... > > > > > > > > > > Please clarify CAPS...this is new to me? > > > > > > > > > > " 2.All Planets cojoin in sign NO " > > > > > By this i mean to say if two planets are in one sign in rashi chart ...for example ju and ma both are in Leo...both become samdharmi to each other....ma has low points so Ma can replace Ju > > > > > > > > > > " 6.Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO " > > > > > This is case where Ju is in Leo in rashi chart and Ma is in Leo in navamsa..... both are in Leo and become samdharmi > > > > > > > > > > " 8.Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO " > > > > > This is case where Ju with 5 point in Tarus and placed in 4th house....so LoD for 7th house is Ve and Ju can give result due to its placement so samdharmi to Ve ....can replace Ve > > > > > > > > > > " 9.If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra NO " > > > > > This is case Ju is with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ......and Ra represents Su/St......so Ju samdharmi to Su/St.....I Think this is my mistake we should not consider Ra as it does not have rulership of any sign > > > > > > > > > > " Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO " > > > > > I think this is again not true as per your emails and lessons as well.......rather Mo natural samdharmi to Ma.......... ...Mo can replace Ma. > > > > > However i have not got root cause/main reason for this .......rather what i think is Mo can not be boss .....Please clarify or provide any means where should i look? > > > > > > > > > > ------------ ------ > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Devisingh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anup. M wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Devi singh ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My understanding is as per CAPS below. > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 11/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> > > > > > Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > > > Wednesday, 11 November, 2009, 6:30 PM > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anup ji, > > > > > > > > > > Thank you ....for corrections on emails.....this will keep me on track and avoiding out of track. > > > > > > > > > > If Planets in navamsa have 4:10 relation we should not consider them samdharmi that is input for me. > > > > > > > > > > Below is my understanding related to samdharmi what is gathered upto 2000 emails of achieves.... .putting here so may be help full to other members as well please have a look and comment on them where requires...i have arranged them on priority basis please provides your valuable comment for them where required > > > > > 1. Planets making 4:10 in rashi (offcourse boss and subordinate analogy) YES > > > > > 2. All Planets cojoin in sign NO > > > > > 3. Planet is samdharmi to Lord of nakshtra sign YES > > > > > 4. All Planets in same nakshatra YES > > > > > 5. All Planets cojoin in navamsa YES > > > > > 6. Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO > > > > > 7. Planet is samdharmi to Lord navamsa sign YES > > > > > 8. Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO > > > > > 9. If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra NO > > > > > 10. > > > > > 11. Ra is samdharmi to sign lord and navamsa lord and planet cojoin in navamsa YES > > > > > > > > > > Yes it is my mistake mo,ju,ma are not natural samdharmi as per KAS......Please forgive me i might done it knowingly but not intentionally > > > > > In kalpurush chart ....looking 4:10 > > > > > St and Ve are samdharmi to each other....can replace each other > > > > > Su samdharmi to Ma...Su can replace Ma YES > > > > > Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO > > > > > ------------ ------ > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Devisingh > > > > > > > > > > Anup. M wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Devi singh ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think samdharmi concept is not clear somewhere in your mail > > > > > > > > > > Pleae note that .. > > > > > MOON AND JU ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI > > > > > JU AND MARS ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI. > > > > > > > > > > Also we do not consider 4:10 relation in navamsa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 10/11/09, devisigh <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=devisingh.rajput@ <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> > > > > > Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > > > Tuesday, 10 November, 2009, 6:56 PM > > > > > > > > > > Dear All; > > > > > > > > > > Some more thoughts to fix antra > > > > > > > > > > St full delay but st have moved 15 degree so considering 27.5-1.3=26. 3 year initial value > > > > > Ju aspects Hb in navamsa but is is in libra with rahu in navamsa and in nakshtra of St so it can not check to saturn so full delay no help from Ju to reduce delay as staus of Ju is not good > > > > > > > > > > no zero in SAV so no addition in delay > > > > > Blessing in navamsa but can not help to reduce delay > > > > > St is with Ra in rashi so more affilicted add delay > > > > > Mo aspected by Ra in rashi and St cojoin in navamsa ,As lumanaries are aspected so that will add delay > > > > > > > > > > Main dasha lord Mo is OK as karka to give 7th house events > > > > > > > > > > Mo-Mo > > > > > Mo LoD and Natural Samdharmi to Ju can give event > > > > > > > > > > But I think this would not be case as some what delay have to be added > > > > > > > > > > Mo-Ma > > > > > Ju and Ma both in cancer one in rasi and another in navamsa makes them samdharmi > > > > > Ju and Ma both are natural samdharmi > > > > > Ju and Ma 4:10 in rashi/navamsa > > > > > Ju LoE and high point So Event can be in 3rd sector of it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mo-Ra > > > > > Ra represnts Su/Ve....considerin g more like Ve NK FK.... and cojoin Ju in navamsa so samdahrmi to Ju > > > > > > > > > > so Event can be in 3rd sector of it.......seems not wise choice still to me > > > > > > > > > > Mo-Ju > > > > > Ju Can give Event in 3rd Sector on it > > > > > > > > > > will come up with more thought as gets educated to this system > > > > > ------------ ------ > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Devisingh > > > > > > > > > > devisigh wrote: > > > > > Dear Ash ji, > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar > > > > > > > > > > Sincere thanks for your words attitude intension and time. > > > > > > > > > > I am trying my all time what i can collect to study this system. > > > > > I guess this can takes time may be 3year (less points till that time also indicate hardwork and busy for me) Will continue my attempt/doubts hope for comments from moderators for same. > > > > > I am enjoying achieves thanks to Krushna,sanjay, Donna,Peter, Magritta and all very nice considering old time and situation. > > > > > hope that will helps me to understand and utilize system and finally to absorb root or essence of system so other all system and vedic text can be clarified with same so better results can be obtained related to timing of events. > > > > > Everybody is trying/pushing here only to help others using there own approach It is really appreciated GOD WILL HELP THEM WHO HELPED OTHERS > > > > > > > > > > Please find below is thought process/approach: > > > > > I am taking acceptance that person is not mentally retired and birth details are correct no rectification required > > > > > > > > > > Quality of 7th house: > > > > > * checking Ju in Libra in rashi/navamsa. ...navamsa has that...it is RK,NRK and LoE..seems not good for marriage. > > > > > * checking Ve nakshatra in rashi...bharni. ..ok > > > > > * checking Su and Ve distance in rashi...less then 43...ok > > > > > * checking Ve is with Ra,St or aspect in rashi/navamsa. ....Ve is with St in navamsa....spoils Ve more > > > > > * checking LoA,LoB,LoC, LoD,LoE in rashi.....Ve, St..Mo,Ju > > > > > * checking planets with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ..Sa and Ju.....St is LoC and Ju is loE for 7th house and LoA for 5th house. > > > > > * checking Ra aspects on house in rashi/navamsa. ...9,12,2. .7,9,11.. 12th is HoE,2nd is HoA,9th is karak for HoA and HoC for child..7th is HB,11th is HC > > > > > * checking Ra aspects on planets in rashi and navamsa...Me, Su......Me 6th lord become more malefic and Su LoB for child case > > > > > * checking for planets with 6th/12th lord in rashi/navamsa. .... Ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord.....me is with ve in navamsa spoils ve. > > > > > * checking for aspects on house in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... > > > > > * checking for aspects on planets in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... > > > > > * cheking malefic aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....Ju with 5 points aspects to HoE,Ve with 6 points aspects to HB > > > > > * cheking benific aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....St with 2 points also LoC aspects to HB,HA and Mo aspects to HB > > > > > Blessings,compatibi lity,DBCE, strong house,strong planets: > > > > > * as usual to be looked will look another time > > > > > Finding significator: > > > > > * checking for 2nd lord in rashi......Ve is 2nd lord...Ve antra will bring more pain > > > > > * looking at 2,7,11 lords...ve and st....ve is with 6 points and st is with 2 points ....left st less points and left ve 2nd lord > > > > > * looking at 2,7,11 occupents ...me and su...me is with 7 points and su is with 4 points ...left su less points and left me 6th lord > > > > > * looking at 4,12 occupents... ju and ke(ju/ju)... so ju....ju is with 5 points ....considering ju ...left as in Libra and aspect malefic to HOE > > > > > * consider Reperesnter for Ra/Ke...Su,Ve/ Ju,Ju.... ...left Ra as alresdy left su and ve,left ke as already left ju > > > > > * looking at 4,12 lords....Mo, ju....considerin g moon as already left ju....mo may act......... still requires more time for me to finalise > > > > > > > > > > ------------ ------ > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Devisingh > > > > > > > > > > Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=Corner@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Devisingh ji, > > > > > > > > > > Very nice attempt. Please continue your chain of thought. > > > > > Try to find the antra that you think might give marriage. Just go upto antra. > > > > > So first compute the delay and there after start to think over the best possible period that u think can give the event. > > > > > However, do write your thinking process. That will help one figure out where you are going away or your confusion. > > > > > Well Done. > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro. ca > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=astrologyan> dtimingevents] On Behalf Of devisigh > > > > > Thursday November 5, 2009 6:42 AM > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > > > Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart > > > > > > > > > > Dear All; > > > > > > > > > > My first attempt using KAS rules/techniques only > > > > > > > > > > 7th house marriage: > > > > > selecting Mo main Dasha which is with FK Ve for 7th house > > > > > Su and Ju seems significator from ws points for 7th house > > > > > other planets aspects 7th house i left them > > > > > Su is with Me which is 6th load makes Su samdharmi to 6th lord i left that > > > > > Ju having highest points and also LoE > > > > > now considering Ju only as strong significator which in RK and NRK and natural samdharmi to Mo which is LoD. > > > > > Ju does not have sight on A/B/C and is LoE can gives results > > > > > > > > > > Thinking for samdharmi of Ju > > > > > in navamsa Ju is with Ra ...makes Ju and Ra samdharmi > > > > > Ra can be thought to facilitate results for 7th house matters .......still this takes time for me to finalize > > > > > > > > > > ------------ ------ > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Devisingh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji, > > > > > > > > > > You are correct. It was a typo. It was good that I gave the degree of all planets so this mistake could be checked right in the begining. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Nikhlesh ji. > > > > > > > > > > The date should be May 24th. > > > > > > > > > > 24th May 1979 > > > > > 4:10 AM > > > > > 28N40 > > > > > 77E13 > > > > > > > > > > Sorry about that. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=%40> , " nikhlesh mathur " <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=nikhleshmathur@ <nikhleshmathur@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sub: 24th Feb 1979, 4.10 am, 28.N.40, 77.E.13 > > > > > > Dear Ash ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > You said that Su is 9Ta31 for the above native. But a person born on the month of Feb cannot have his Sun in Taurus sign. It should be in Aquarius at this time. > > > > > > > > > > > > If other things are okay then I think the birth date is 24th May. > > > > > > > > > > > > Please confirm. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:47:29 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add to > > > > > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6) When > > > > > > can the native face health problems? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash's Corner@ [kas@ <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=kas@> ...] > > > > > > Monday October 26, 2009 > > > > > > 12:18 AM > > > > > > To: > > > > > > 'astrologyandtiming events@grou ps.com <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=%27%40> ' > > > > > > Practice Chart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear > > > > > > Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This > > > > > > lady has been posting charts in various lists for many years now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is > > > > > > the chart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24th > > > > > > Feb 1979 > > > > > > > > > > > > 4:10 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > 28N40 > > > > > > > > > > > > 77E13 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From > > > > > > what I gather, she had an affair or liked some guy that she wanted to > > > > > > marry. I am not clear from her posts > > > > > > that if she married the same guy or not. > > > > > > Her parents were looking out for some proposals for her. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If this > > > > > > chart came blindly to you, can you predict the following. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) > > > > > > Marriage > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) > > > > > > Child birth > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) > > > > > > Marital Relations overall > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) > > > > > > She has been complaining that relations are bad after marriage and > > > > > > asked if she should go for divorce. > > > > > > > > > > > > 5) > > > > > > Why she had affair or what are the yogs for that in this chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Degrees > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 15 Ar 55 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Su > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9 Ta 31 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 13 Ar 48 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 13 Ar 8 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Me > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2 Ta 15 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ju > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11 Cn 16 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 14 Ar 30 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 14 Le 35 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 20 Le 59 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ke > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 20 Aq 59 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage <http://in.rd./tagline_yyi_1/*http:/in./> .. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage <http://in.rd./tagline_yyi_1/*http:/in./> .. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See <http://in.rd./tagline_yyi_1/*http:/in./> your Homepage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 13, 2009 Please re-read my mail, I have explained a lot of things in that. Also since you are in KAS Pravin list, kindly read that lesson again and also the preceding notes given by Guru ji and which I have produced. If you still do not get it, leave it for now and keep solving charts. When such scenarios come up, give all the events of the chart of the native and we will study it with proper facts and figures. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of nirvana_seeker3 Thursday November 12, 2009 11:25 PM Subject: Re: Practice Chart Can you tell me what is it that I am missing, and can you help me understand the concept. The only confusing part is the combination of Saturn and Mars in the example I gave. Others I understand as per your explanation. Thanks, Nir. , " Ash's Corner " <kas wrote: > > Yes you are. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > On Behalf Of nirvana_seeker3 > Thursday November 12, 2009 5:06 PM > > Re: Practice Chart > > > The way I understood this is as following - > > Let's take an example. Lagna is Cancer. Jupiter is in lagna (in traditional VA, it will be considered as exalted). Saturn is in 4th house (again exalted) and Mars is in 10th in Aries (owns this sign and in kendra). In this example, according to this dictum, as I understand it is that Saturn, Jupiter and Mars will all be samdharmis. Jupiter and Mars are in 4:10 and so are Jupiter and Saturn. But Saturn and Mars are 1:7. > > Jupiter and Mars and similarly Juptier and Saturn can be explained by 4:10 theory the way you explained. However, the addition here is Saturn and Mars. > > Am I missing something? > > Nir. > > <%40> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> wrote: > > > > Dear Hussein ji and NS ji, > > > > Please read the sentence above that as well. > > > >  " > > (If, in the above case, planet 'A' had less points then 'B', then planet 'A' would behave in a reverse way and might give adverse results if it didn't receive more than 12 points in its final tally, as indicated in the worksheet.)†> > > > The essence of that write up is that how 4:10 is being advocated by Saravali and others. That said, in our system, we go one step further to classify the same i.e. > > > > 1) Planet in 10th place if its less than 4 bindus and Planet in 4th house from it is with more than 4 bindus > > 2) Planet in 10th place if its with more than 4 bindus and planet in 4th place from it is with less than 4 bindus > > 3) Planet in 10th place is with 4 bindus and planet in 4th place from it is with more than 4 bindus > > > > So, in all the above case there is a very big difference on how the result will be. In the 1st case both planets will give good result as they will become very powerful SD as there is power transfer and in the WS the power will go up for all 12 house for the planet in 10th house that controls the planet in 4th house so in both antras result will be good. > > > > In second case, there is opposition. Planet in 10th place is with more than 4 bindus so its in House D for the 4th house from it so it will give the event or become eager but the planet in the 4th place will oppose the karaktwa of the planet in 10th place so during the antras very different results will be there. > > > > In the 3rd case, if the planet in 10th place is LoD or LoE then it will control the planet and will act like case 1 but for the house that it is not LoD or LoE it will not become SD and there will be no power transfer as there will not be any control of planet in 10th place on the planet in 4th place from it. > > > > Please understand this. > > > > Now since we are talking about 4:10 then our focus is on case 1 given above as we are studying positive things and trying to give the person who comes to u for getting a reading some hope. But it does not mean that other 2 scenarios are not there. > > > > Please do not get confused about this and get concept firm in your mind. So in case 1 only they will become mutual karaks means they can replace each other and in KAS terminology they become Samdharmi and that too 2 way means that both can replace each other. But only for case 1 and for case 3 in case the lord in 10th place is LoD or LoE for those house it will become SD with power transfer. But for case 2, it will be reverse effect. Planet in 4th place will oppose planet in 10th place and one will get the result accordingly. > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > <%40> [ <%40> ] On Behalf Of Hussein > > Thursday November 12, 2009 3:44 PM > > <%40> > > Re: Practice Chart > > > > > > Dear Ash ji > > > > Anup ji had sent a text which Guru ji had explained SD rules there maybe in a class or worlshop(( 15th Aug 2008 2nd)).Anup ji sent this as a message in the group.I've saved that lessson as word file but don't know the number of message. > > > > Here is that rule: > > > > " > > Sloka 6: > > There is a reference in Saravali regarding two planets in Kendras (angle houses †" 1, 4, 7, 10), becoming mutual significators. We have a similar law in this system also. > > > > Saravali Chapter 6 sloka - 1, 2 and 3: > > > > Swarkshatrikonntund astha yadi kendreshu sansthitaI > > Anyonyam karakste syu: kendreshvev harermtamII 1II > > > > Ravitanyo jookstha: kulirlagne bruhaspatihimanshuI > > Meshe kujo raviyut: pararsparm karaka ete II2II > > > > Tungsuhrutkhgruhnas he stitha gruha: karaka: samakhyata:I > > Meshurane ch raviriti visheshto vakti chanakya: II 3II > > > > > > MEANING: When two planets are in a Kendra and are exalted or own the house they are in, they become mutual karakas or significators. In the above sloka, Acharya Vishnugupt says that this happens only with respect to Kendras. One example, (as illustrated in Fig.37) for the Cancer lagna is given, with Saturn in Libra, the Moon and Jupiter in the lagna, Sun and Mars in Aries. In this case, all of them became mutual karakas. Similarly, some authors say that planets that are mutually angular though not necessarily from the ascendant are also mutual significators. For our purposes, when two planets are exalted or own the Kendra house they are in, making them mutual karakas, this is also a phenomenon that we use in this system. > > > > Best Wishes > > > > Hussein > > <%40> , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Hussein ji? > > > > > > What law is that????? Please explain or show me the mail number so I can read that and understand what context? > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > <%40> [ <%40> ] On Behalf Of Hussein > > > Thursday November 12, 2009 2:49 PM > > > <%40> > > > Re: Practice Chart > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash ji > > > > > > I think another rule which is available for SDs is that :the planets which are in the exaltation sign or > > > > > > are in their own kendra are SD for each other. > > > > > > Best Wishes > > > > > > Hussein > > > <%40> , " Ash's Corner@ " kas@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bella ji, > > > > > > > > Just one small correction from my side on my earlier mail. > > > > > > > > The order or SD will be > > > > > > > > 1) 4:10 > > > > 2) Same Sign & Nak > > > > 3) Same Navamsa > > > > 4) Navamsa lord > > > > 5) Nakshatra lord. > > > > > > > > NSD if they get a chance they will give, that depends on fixed relationship as per natural chart. So there is no order for the same. Except that if they are in 1:7 then they cease to become NSDÃÆ'¢â‚¬â„¢s. > > > > > > > > The reason for the above order is that if you notice that the last 2 are only one way, means planet comes sd to navamsa lord or nak lord so its one way. Means planet can replace the nav lord or nak lord if they are unable to give the result but not vice versa. > > > > When planets are in same navamsa then they are 2 way means both can replace each other. > > > > > > > > Hence the distinction. > > > > > > > > Just try to understand the essence of the same. > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > <%40> [ <%40> ] On Behalf Of BPShiv > > > > Thursday November 12, 2009 12:48 PM > > > > <%40> > > > > Re: Re: Practice Chart > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'¯Â»Â¿ > > > > Dear Devi Singh ji, > > > > My answers are in purple. Seniors please correct my errors as this is the very basic portion of KAS that we are strengthening. > > > > > > > > > > > > Please clarify CAPS...this is new to me? > > > > > > > > " 2.All Planets cojoin in sign NO " > > > > By this i mean to say if two planets are in one sign in rashi chart ...for example ju and ma both are in Leo...both become samdharmi to each other....ma has low points so Ma can replace Ju > > > > NO. Not in Rasi BUT YES in navamsa. If Ju and Ma are in Leo in Rasi they cannot be SD but if they are in same navamsa then they are SD. > > > > In Rasi Ju and Ma have to be in the same sign AND also in the same nakshatra. > > > > > > > > " 6.Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO " > > > > This is case where Ju is in Leo in rashi chart and Ma is in Leo in navamsa.....both are in Leo and become samdharmi > > > > No. But according to lesson 25 they could be SD if they both have more points. > > > > > > > > " 8.Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO " > > > > This is case where Ju with 5 point in Tarus and placed in 4th house....so LoD for 7th house is Ve and Ju can give result due to its placement so samdharmi to Ve ....can replace Ve > > > > NO. Planet is not SD to sign Lo itself in Rasi. > > > > Here in your example if you are talking about 4:10 relationship than if Ju has 5 bindus in 4th place and if Ma is in 10th place with 3 bindus than Ju can be SD to Ma provided it has more bindus. > > > > > > > > " 9.If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra NO " > > > > This is case Ju is with Ra in rashi/navamsa.......and Ra represents Su/St......so Ju samdharmi to Su/St.....I Think this is my mistake we should not consider Ra as it does not have rulership of any sign > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NO. Ju is not SD to Su. > > > > In this case if Ju is with Ra in rasi they are not SD. If they are in Leo that means Ra represents Su. Also we have to see nakshatra Lo that Ra is in. Say Ra is in nakshatra of Ve and from two of them whichever has more bindus Ra will represent like them. If Ve has 5 bindus and Su has 3 bindus than Ra will be more like Ve and less like Su also have to check the points in WS. > > > > Now if Ra is with Ju in Sa navamsa than Ra is SD to Ju and SD to Sa. > > > > To summarize this ex. Ra REPRESENTS Ve and is SD to Ju and Sa. > > > > > > > > " Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO " > > > > I think this is again not true as per your emails and lessons as well.......rather Mo natural samdharmi to Ma.............Mo can replace Ma. > > > > However i have not got root cause/main reason for this .......rather what i think is Mo can not be boss .....Please clarify or provide any means where should i look? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes. If Ma is in navamsa of Mo than Ma is SD to Mo and Ma can fill in for Mo. > > > > Also, please refer to Ash ji's msg # 20953 link. Nice update and more clarifications. > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > -Bella. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > Anup. M <dalh_1@ > > > > <%40> > > > > Thursday, November 12, 2009 8:48 AM > > > > Re: Re: Practice Chart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Devi singh ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Just wait,i hope members over here will try to explain you > > > > regarding your confusions. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 12/11/09, devisigh devisingh.rajput@ wrote: > > > > > > > > devisigh devisingh.rajput@ > > > > Re: Re: Practice Chart > > > > <%40> > > > > Thursday, 12 November, 2009, 7:28 PM > > > > > > > > Dear Anup ji, > > > > > > > > It is really wondering for me.....something i guess incorrect in drafting/representa tion by me...let me try one more time in better way..... > > > > > > > > Please clarify CAPS...this is new to me? > > > > > > > > " 2.All Planets cojoin in sign NO " > > > > By this i mean to say if two planets are in one sign in rashi chart ...for example ju and ma both are in Leo...both become samdharmi to each other....ma has low points so Ma can replace Ju > > > > > > > > " 6.Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO " > > > > This is case where Ju is in Leo in rashi chart and Ma is in Leo in navamsa..... both are in Leo and become samdharmi > > > > > > > > " 8.Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO " > > > > This is case where Ju with 5 point in Tarus and placed in 4th house....so LoD for 7th house is Ve and Ju can give result due to its placement so samdharmi to Ve ....can replace Ve > > > > > > > > " 9.If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra NO " > > > > This is case Ju is with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ......and Ra represents Su/St......so Ju samdharmi to Su/St.....I Think this is my mistake we should not consider Ra as it does not have rulership of any sign > > > > > > > > " Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO " > > > > I think this is again not true as per your emails and lessons as well.......rather Mo natural samdharmi to Ma.......... ...Mo can replace Ma. > > > > However i have not got root cause/main reason for this .......rather what i think is Mo can not be boss .....Please clarify or provide any means where should i look? > > > > > > > > ------------ ------ > > > > Regards, > > > > Devisingh > > > > > > > > > > > > Anup. M wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Devi singh ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > My understanding is as per CAPS below. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 11/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> > > > > Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > > Wednesday, 11 November, 2009, 6:30 PM > > > > > > > > Dear Anup ji, > > > > > > > > Thank you ....for corrections on emails.....this will keep me on track and avoiding out of track. > > > > > > > > If Planets in navamsa have 4:10 relation we should not consider them samdharmi that is input for me. > > > > > > > > Below is my understanding related to samdharmi what is gathered upto 2000 emails of achieves.... .putting here so may be help full to other members as well please have a look and comment on them where requires...i have arranged them on priority basis please provides your valuable comment for them where required > > > > 1. Planets making 4:10 in rashi (offcourse boss and subordinate analogy) YES > > > > 2. All Planets cojoin in sign NO > > > > 3. Planet is samdharmi to Lord of nakshtra sign YES > > > > 4. All Planets in same nakshatra YES > > > > 5. All Planets cojoin in navamsa YES > > > > 6. Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO > > > > 7. Planet is samdharmi to Lord navamsa sign YES > > > > 8. Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO > > > > 9. If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra NO > > > > 10. > > > > 11. Ra is samdharmi to sign lord and navamsa lord and planet cojoin in navamsa YES > > > > > > > > Yes it is my mistake mo,ju,ma are not natural samdharmi as per KAS......Please forgive me i might done it knowingly but not intentionally > > > > In kalpurush chart ....looking 4:10 > > > > St and Ve are samdharmi to each other....can replace each other > > > > Su samdharmi to Ma...Su can replace Ma YES > > > > Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO > > > > ------------ ------ > > > > Regards, > > > > Devisingh > > > > > > > > Anup. M wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Devi singh ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > I think samdharmi concept is not clear somewhere in your mail > > > > > > > > Pleae note that .. > > > > MOON AND JU ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI > > > > JU AND MARS ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI. > > > > > > > > Also we do not consider 4:10 relation in navamsa. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 10/11/09, devisigh <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=devisingh.rajput@ <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> > > > > Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > > Tuesday, 10 November, 2009, 6:56 PM > > > > > > > > Dear All; > > > > > > > > Some more thoughts to fix antra > > > > > > > > St full delay but st have moved 15 degree so considering 27.5-1.3=26. 3 year initial value > > > > Ju aspects Hb in navamsa but is is in libra with rahu in navamsa and in nakshtra of St so it can not check to saturn so full delay no help from Ju to reduce delay as staus of Ju is not good > > > > > > > > no zero in SAV so no addition in delay > > > > Blessing in navamsa but can not help to reduce delay > > > > St is with Ra in rashi so more affilicted add delay > > > > Mo aspected by Ra in rashi and St cojoin in navamsa ,As lumanaries are aspected so that will add delay > > > > > > > > Main dasha lord Mo is OK as karka to give 7th house events > > > > > > > > Mo-Mo > > > > Mo LoD and Natural Samdharmi to Ju can give event > > > > > > > > But I think this would not be case as some what delay have to be added > > > > > > > > Mo-Ma > > > > Ju and Ma both in cancer one in rasi and another in navamsa makes them samdharmi > > > > Ju and Ma both are natural samdharmi > > > > Ju and Ma 4:10 in rashi/navamsa > > > > Ju LoE and high point So Event can be in 3rd sector of it. > > > > > > > > > > > > Mo-Ra > > > > Ra represnts Su/Ve....considerin g more like Ve NK FK.... and cojoin Ju in navamsa so samdahrmi to Ju > > > > > > > > so Event can be in 3rd sector of it.......seems not wise choice still to me > > > > > > > > Mo-Ju > > > > Ju Can give Event in 3rd Sector on it > > > > > > > > will come up with more thought as gets educated to this system > > > > ------------ ------ > > > > Regards, > > > > Devisingh > > > > > > > > devisigh wrote: > > > > Dear Ash ji, > > > > > > > > Namaskar > > > > > > > > Sincere thanks for your words attitude intension and time. > > > > > > > > I am trying my all time what i can collect to study this system. > > > > I guess this can takes time may be 3year (less points till that time also indicate hardwork and busy for me) Will continue my attempt/doubts hope for comments from moderators for same. > > > > I am enjoying achieves thanks to Krushna,sanjay, Donna,Peter, Magritta and all very nice considering old time and situation. > > > > hope that will helps me to understand and utilize system and finally to absorb root or essence of system so other all system and vedic text can be clarified with same so better results can be obtained related to timing of events. > > > > Everybody is trying/pushing here only to help others using there own approach It is really appreciated GOD WILL HELP THEM WHO HELPED OTHERS > > > > > > > > Please find below is thought process/approach: > > > > I am taking acceptance that person is not mentally retired and birth details are correct no rectification required > > > > > > > > Quality of 7th house: > > > > * checking Ju in Libra in rashi/navamsa. ...navamsa has that...it is RK,NRK and LoE..seems not good for marriage. > > > > * checking Ve nakshatra in rashi...bharni. ..ok > > > > * checking Su and Ve distance in rashi...less then 43...ok > > > > * checking Ve is with Ra,St or aspect in rashi/navamsa. .....Ve is with St in navamsa....spoils Ve more > > > > * checking LoA,LoB,LoC, LoD,LoE in rashi.....Ve, St..Mo,Ju > > > > * checking planets with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ..Sa and Ju.....St is LoC and Ju is loE for 7th house and LoA for 5th house. > > > > * checking Ra aspects on house in rashi/navamsa. ..9,12,2. ..7,9,11.. 12th is HoE,2nd is HoA,9th is karak for HoA and HoC for child..7th is HB,11th is HC > > > > * checking Ra aspects on planets in rashi and navamsa...Me, Su......Me 6th lord become more malefic and Su LoB for child case > > > > * checking for planets with 6th/12th lord in rashi/navamsa. ..... Ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord.....me is with ve in navamsa spoils ve. > > > > * checking for aspects on house in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... > > > > * checking for aspects on planets in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... > > > > * cheking malefic aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....Ju with 5 points aspects to HoE,Ve with 6 points aspects to HB > > > > * cheking benific aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....St with 2 points also LoC aspects to HB,HA and Mo aspects to HB > > > > Blessings,compatibi lity,DBCE, strong house,strong planets: > > > > * as usual to be looked will look another time > > > > Finding significator: > > > > * checking for 2nd lord in rashi......Ve is 2nd lord...Ve antra will bring more pain > > > > * looking at 2,7,11 lords...ve and st....ve is with 6 points and st is with 2 points ....left st less points and left ve 2nd lord > > > > * looking at 2,7,11 occupents ...me and su...me is with 7 points and su is with 4 points ...left su less points and left me 6th lord > > > > * looking at 4,12 occupents... ju and ke(ju/ju)... so ju....ju is with 5 points ....considering ju ...left as in Libra and aspect malefic to HOE > > > > * consider Reperesnter for Ra/Ke...Su,Ve/ Ju,Ju.... ..left Ra as alresdy left su and ve,left ke as already left ju > > > > * looking at 4,12 lords....Mo, ju....considerin g moon as already left ju....mo may act......... still requires more time for me to finalise > > > > > > > > ------------ ------ > > > > Regards, > > > > Devisingh > > > > > > > > Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=Corner@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Devisingh ji, > > > > > > > > Very nice attempt. Please continue your chain of thought. > > > > Try to find the antra that you think might give marriage. Just go upto antra. > > > > So first compute the delay and there after start to think over the best possible period that u think can give the event. > > > > However, do write your thinking process. That will help one figure out where you are going away or your confusion. > > > > Well Done. > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro. ca > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=astrologyan> dtimingevents] On Behalf Of devisigh > > > > Thursday November 5, 2009 6:42 AM > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > > Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart > > > > > > > > Dear All; > > > > > > > > My first attempt using KAS rules/techniques only > > > > > > > > 7th house marriage: > > > > selecting Mo main Dasha which is with FK Ve for 7th house > > > > Su and Ju seems significator from ws points for 7th house > > > > other planets aspects 7th house i left them > > > > Su is with Me which is 6th load makes Su samdharmi to 6th lord i left that > > > > Ju having highest points and also LoE > > > > now considering Ju only as strong significator which in RK and NRK and natural samdharmi to Mo which is LoD. > > > > Ju does not have sight on A/B/C and is LoE can gives results > > > > > > > > Thinking for samdharmi of Ju > > > > in navamsa Ju is with Ra ...makes Ju and Ra samdharmi > > > > Ra can be thought to facilitate results for 7th house matters .......still this takes time for me to finalize > > > > > > > > ------------ ------ > > > > Regards, > > > > Devisingh > > > > > > > > > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji, > > > > > > > > You are correct. It was a typo. It was good that I gave the degree of all planets so this mistake could be checked right in the begining. > > > > > > > > Thanks Nikhlesh ji. > > > > > > > > The date should be May 24th. > > > > > > > > 24th May 1979 > > > > 4:10 AM > > > > 28N40 > > > > 77E13 > > > > > > > > Sorry about that. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=%40> , " nikhlesh mathur " <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=nikhleshmathur@ <nikhleshmathur@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sub: 24th Feb 1979, 4.10 am, 28.N.40, 77.E.13 > > > > > Dear Ash ji, > > > > > > > > > > You said that Su is 9Ta31 for the above native. But a person born on the month of Feb cannot have his Sun in Taurus sign. It should be in Aquarius at this time. > > > > > > > > > > If other things are okay then I think the birth date is 24th May. > > > > > > > > > > Please confirm. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:47:29 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add to > > > > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6) When > > > > > can the native face health problems? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash's Corner@ [kas@ <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=kas@> ....] > > > > > Monday October 26, 2009 > > > > > 12:18 AM > > > > > To: > > > > > 'astrologyandtiming events@grou ps.com <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=%27%40> ' > > > > > Practice Chart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear > > > > > Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This > > > > > lady has been posting charts in various lists for many years now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is > > > > > the chart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24th > > > > > Feb 1979 > > > > > > > > > > 4:10 AM > > > > > > > > > > 28N40 > > > > > > > > > > 77E13 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From > > > > > what I gather, she had an affair or liked some guy that she wanted to > > > > > marry. I am not clear from her posts > > > > > that if she married the same guy or not. > > > > > Her parents were looking out for some proposals for her. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If this > > > > > chart came blindly to you, can you predict the following. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) > > > > > Marriage > > > > > > > > > > 2) > > > > > Child birth > > > > > > > > > > 3) > > > > > Marital Relations overall > > > > > > > > > > 4) > > > > > She has been complaining that relations are bad after marriage and > > > > > asked if she should go for divorce. > > > > > > > > > > 5) > > > > > Why she had affair or what are the yogs for that in this chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Degrees > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 15 Ar 55 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Su > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9 Ta 31 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 13 Ar 48 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 13 Ar 8 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Me > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2 Ta 15 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ju > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11 Cn 16 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 14 Ar 30 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 14 Le 35 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 20 Le 59 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ke > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 20 Aq 59 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage <http://in.rd./tagline_yyi_1/*http:/in./> .. > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage <http://in.rd./tagline_yyi_1/*http:/in./> .. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See <http://in.rd./tagline_yyi_1/*http:/in./> your Homepage. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 16, 2009 Dear All, Finally i am able to convince myself and fixed antra as below Selection of Ra/Ju antra is somewhat difficult as i have strong arguments for both side though i will go with Ju and considering Ra for affair before marriage 1) Marriage Mo-Ju antra will bring marriage 2) Child birth Mo-St antra brings child birth ----Ve is strong significator from ws points ----St is natural samdharmi to Ve ----St is in nakshatra of Ve and also cojoin Ve in navamsa ----St is LoE for 5th house can give child birth 3) Marital Relations overall ----karak Ve,Ju not good and marital relations seems not good ----except Ve all are having good points for 7th house not Bad 4) She has been complaining that relations are bad after marriage and asked if she should go for divorce. ----if she asked for divorce (which is obvious as karak are not good) then i suggest should not go for divorce...(looking DBCE and ws points for 7th house) 5) Why she had affair or what are the yogs for that in this chart. --there is delay in marriage and by considering 12th house (foreign relations) Ve is NK,FK for this and having less points for 12th --Mo-Ra(Venus) antra before marriage indicate that Ra being in 5th house can act as LoE and Eager to accoplish this. --Ve cojoin Ma and aspected by Ra in rashi --Ve in navamsa of Su and cojoin St in navamsa 6) Health ----Su is 12th lord for 6th house concern and placed in second house that will increase bad deed of this Su and this can gives health issues for native...in Ws Su has more then 11 points ----Me is strong significator from WS for 6th and 1st house and also it is LoD for 6th house and LoE for First house events ----Me being nakshatra of Su ...Me is samdharmi of Su and also LoB for 6th house with more then 5 points..... ----Me antra diffinately brings some health issues for native ------------------ Regards, Devisingh devisigh wrote: Dear All; Some more thoughts to fix antra St full delay but st have moved 15 degree so considering 27.5-1.3=26.3 year initial value Ju aspects Hb in navamsa but is is in libra with rahu in navamsa and in nakshtra of St so it can not check to saturn so full delay no help from Ju to reduce delay as staus of Ju is not good no zero in SAV so no addition in delay Blessing in navamsa but can not help to reduce delay St is with Ra in rashi so more affilicted add delay Mo aspected by Ra in rashi and St cojoin in navamsa ,As lumanaries are aspected so that will add delay Main dasha lord Mo is OK as karka to give 7th house events Mo-Mo Mo LoD and Natural Samdharmi to Ju can give event But I think this would not be case as some what delay have to be added Mo-Ma Ju and Ma both in cancer one in rasi and another in navamsa makes them samdharmi Ju and Ma both are natural samdharmi Ju and Ma 4:10 in rashi/navamsa Ju LoE and high point So Event can be in 3rd sector of it.-----LEFT MA IT CAN NOT ACT NOT REQUIRED Mo-Ra Ra represnts Su/Ve....considering more like Ve NK FK.... and cojoin Ju in navamsa so samdahrmi to Ju so Event can be in 3rd sector of it.......seems not wise choice still to me-----AFFAIR SEEMS MORE LOGICAL IN THIS TIME Mo-Ju Ju Can give Event in 3rd Sector on it will come up with more thought as gets educated to this system ------------------ Regards, Devisingh devisigh wrote: Dear Ash ji, Namaskar Sincere thanks for your words attitude intension and time. I am trying my all time what i can collect to study this system. I guess this can takes time may be 3year (less points till that time also indicate hardwork and busy for me) Will continue my attempt/doubts hope for comments from moderators for same. I am enjoying achieves thanks to Krushna,sanjay,Donna,Peter,Magritta and all very nice considering old time and situation. hope that will helps me to understand and utilize system and finally to absorb root or essence of system so other all system and vedic text can be clarified with same so better results can be obtained related to timing of events. Everybody is trying/pushing here only to help others using there own approach It is really appreciated GOD WILL HELP THEM WHO HELPED OTHERS Please find below is thought process/approach: I am taking acceptance that person is not mentally retired and birth details are correct no rectification required Quality of 7th house: checking Ju in Libra in rashi/navamsa....navamsa has that...it is RK,NRK and LoE..seems not good for marriage. checking Ve nakshatra in rashi...bharni...ok checking Su and Ve distance in rashi...less then 43...ok checking Ve is with Ra,St or aspect in rashi/navamsa.....Ve is with St in navamsa....spoils Ve more checking LoA,LoB,LoC,LoD,LoE in rashi.....Ve,St..Mo,Ju checking planets with Ra in rashi/navamsa...Sa and Ju.....St is LoC and Ju is loE for 7th house and LoA for 5th house. checking Ra aspects on house in rashi/navamsa...9,12,2..7,9,11..12th is HoE,2nd is HoA,9th is karak for HoA and HoC for child..7th is HB,11th is HC checking Ra aspects on planets in rashi and navamsa...Me,Su......Me 6th lord become more malefic and Su LoB for child case checking for planets with 6th/12th lord in rashi/navamsa..... Ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord.....me is with ve in navamsa spoils ve. checking for aspects on house in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... checking for aspects on planets in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... cheking malefic aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....Ju with 5 points aspects to HoE,Ve with 6 points aspects to HB cheking benific aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....St with 2 points also LoC aspects to HB,HA and Mo aspects to HB Blessings,compatibility,DBCE,strong house,strong planets: as usual to be looked will look another time Finding significator: checking for 2nd lord in rashi......Ve is 2nd lord...Ve antra will bring more pain looking at 2,7,11 lords...ve and st....ve is with 6 points and st is with 2 points ....left st less points and left ve 2nd lord looking at 2,7,11 occupents ...me and su...me is with 7 points and su is with 4 points ...left su less points and left me 6th lord looking at 4,12 occupents...ju and ke(ju/ju)...so ju....ju is with 5 points ....considering ju ...left as in Libra and aspect malefic to HOE consider Reperesnter for Ra/Ke...Su,Ve/Ju,Ju......left Ra as alresdy left su and ve,left ke as already left ju looking at 4,12 lords....Mo,ju....considering moon as already left ju....mo may act.........still requires more time for me to finalise ------------------ Regards, Devisingh Ash's Corner wrote: Dear Devisingh ji, Very nice attempt. Please continue your chain of thought. Try to find the antra that you think might give marriage. Just go upto antra. So first compute the delay and there after start to think over the best possible period that u think can give the event. However, do write your thinking process. That will help one figure out where you are going away or your confusion. Well Done. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of devisigh Thursday November 5, 2009 6:42 AM To: Re: Re: Practice Chart Dear All; My first attempt using KAS rules/techniques only 7th house marriage: selecting Mo main Dasha which is with FK Ve for 7th house Su and Ju seems significator from ws points for 7th house other planets aspects 7th house i left them Su is with Me which is 6th load makes Su samdharmi to 6th lord i left that Ju having highest points and also LoE now considering Ju only as strong significator which in RK and NRK and natural samdharmi to Mo which is LoD. Ju does not have sight on A/B/C and is LoE can gives results Thinking for samdharmi of Ju in navamsa Ju is with Ra ...makes Ju and Ra samdharmi Ra can be thought to facilitate results for 7th house matters ........still this takes time for me to finalize ------------------ Regards, Devisingh ashsam73 wrote: Dear Nikhlesh ji, You are correct. It was a typo. It was good that I gave the degree of all planets so this mistake could be checked right in the begining. Thanks Nikhlesh ji. The date should be May 24th. 24th May 1979 4:10 AM 28N40 77E13 Sorry about that. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , "nikhlesh mathur" <nikhleshmathur wrote: > > > > Sub: 24th Feb 1979, 4.10 am, 28.N.40, 77.E.13 > Dear Ash ji, > > You said that Su is 9Ta31 for the above native. But a person born on the month of Feb cannot have his Sun in Taurus sign. It should be in Aquarius at this time. > > If other things are okay then I think the birth date is 24th May. > > Please confirm. > > Regards, > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:47:29 +0530 wrote > > > > Add to > this. > > > 6) When > can the native face health problems? > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > Ash's Corner [kas] > Monday October 26, 2009 > 12:18 AM > To: > ' ' > Practice Chart > > > Dear > Group, > > > > This > lady has been posting charts in various lists for many years now. > > > > Here is > the chart > > > > 24th > Feb 1979 > > 4:10 AM > > 28N40 > > 77E13 > > > > From > what I gather, she had an affair or liked some guy that she wanted to > marry. I am not clear from her posts > that if she married the same guy or not. > Her parents were looking out for some proposals for her. > > > > If this > chart came blindly to you, can you predict the following. > > > > 1) > Marriage > > 2) > Child birth > > 3) > Marital Relations overall > > 4) > She has been complaining that relations are bad after marriage and > asked if she should go for divorce. > > 5) > Why she had affair or what are the yogs for that in this chart. > > > > > > > > > Planet > > > Degrees > > > > > As > > > 15 Ar 55 > > > > > Su > > > 9 Ta 31 > > > > > Mo > > > 13 Ar 48 > > > > > Ma > > > 13 Ar 8 > > > > > Me > > > 2 Ta 15 > > > > > Ju > > > 11 Cn 16 > > > > > Ve > > > 14 Ar 30 > > > > > Sa > > > 14 Le 35 > > > > > Ra > > > 20 Le 59 > > > > > Ke > > > 20 Aq 59 > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 16, 2009 Dear Ash Ji and Group, If we change the time to 3:13am as I believe you have mentioned in earlier post, this gives Virgo as Lagna in D-9 chart where now Guru will be in second house (karaka house, HA) and is lord of HB, this would then give Guru delay, would this be correct? With Kind Regards, Shalini , devisigh <devisingh.rajput wrote: > > Dear All, > > Finally i am able to convince myself and fixed antra as below > > Selection of Ra/Ju antra is somewhat difficult as i have strong > arguments for both side though i will go with Ju and considering Ra for > affair before marriage > > 1) Marriage > Mo-Ju antra will bring marriage > > 2) Child birth > Mo-St antra brings child birth > ----Ve is strong significator from ws points > ----St is natural samdharmi to Ve > ----St is in nakshatra of Ve and also cojoin Ve in navamsa > ----St is LoE for 5th house can give child birth > > 3) Marital Relations overall > ----karak Ve,Ju not good and marital relations seems not good > ----except Ve all are having good points for 7th house not Bad > > 4) She has been complaining that relations are bad after marriage > and asked if she should go for divorce. > ----if she asked for divorce (which is obvious as karak are not good) > then i suggest should not go for divorce...(looking DBCE and ws points > for 7th house) > > 5) Why she had affair or what are the yogs for that in this chart. > --there is delay in marriage and by considering 12th house (foreign > relations) Ve is NK,FK for this and having less points for 12th > --Mo-Ra(Venus) antra before marriage indicate that Ra being in 5th house > can act as LoE and Eager to accoplish this. > --Ve cojoin Ma and aspected by Ra in rashi > --Ve in navamsa of Su and cojoin St in navamsa > > 6) Health > ----Su is 12th lord for 6th house concern and placed in second house > that will increase bad deed of this Su and this can gives health issues > for native...in Ws Su has more then 11 points > ----Me is strong significator from WS for 6th and 1st house and also it > is LoD for 6th house and LoE for First house events > ----Me being nakshatra of Su ...Me is samdharmi of Su and also LoB for > 6th house with more then 5 points..... > ----Me antra diffinately brings some health issues for native > > ------------------ > Regards, > Devisingh > > devisigh wrote: > > Dear All; > > > > Some more thoughts to fix antra > > > > St full delay but st have moved 15 degree so considering 27.5-1.3=26.3 > > year initial value > > Ju aspects Hb in navamsa but is is in libra with rahu in navamsa and > > in nakshtra of St so it can not check to saturn so full delay no help > > from Ju to reduce delay as staus of Ju is not good > > > > no zero in SAV so no addition in delay > > Blessing in navamsa but can not help to reduce delay > > St is with Ra in rashi so more affilicted add delay > > Mo aspected by Ra in rashi and St cojoin in navamsa ,As lumanaries are > > aspected so that will add delay > > > > Main dasha lord Mo is OK as karka to give 7th house events > > > > Mo-Mo > > Mo LoD and Natural Samdharmi to Ju can give event > > > > But I think this would not be case as some what delay have to be added > > > > Mo-Ma > > Ju and Ma both in cancer one in rasi and another in navamsa makes them > > samdharmi > > Ju and Ma both are natural samdharmi > > Ju and Ma 4:10 in rashi/navamsa > > Ju LoE and high point So Event can be in 3rd sector of it.-----LEFT MA > > IT CAN NOT ACT NOT REQUIRED > > > > > > Mo-Ra > > Ra represnts Su/Ve....considering more like Ve NK FK.... and cojoin Ju > > in navamsa so samdahrmi to Ju > > > > so Event can be in 3rd sector of it.......seems not wise choice still > > to me-----AFFAIR SEEMS MORE LOGICAL IN THIS TIME > > > > Mo-Ju > > Ju Can give Event in 3rd Sector on it > > > > will come up with more thought as gets educated to this system > > ------------------ > > Regards, > > Devisingh > > > > devisigh wrote: > >> Dear Ash ji, > >> > >> Namaskar > >> > >> Sincere thanks for your words attitude intension and time. > >> > >> I am trying my all time what i can collect to study this system. > >> I guess this can takes time may be 3year (less points till that time > >> also indicate hardwork and busy for me) Will continue my > >> attempt/doubts hope for comments from moderators for same. > >> I am enjoying achieves thanks to Krushna,sanjay,Donna,Peter,Magritta > >> and all very nice considering old time and situation. > >> hope that will helps me to understand and utilize system and finally > >> to absorb root or essence of system so other all system and vedic > >> text can be clarified with same so better results can be obtained > >> related to timing of events. > >> Everybody is trying/pushing here only to help others using there own > >> approach It is really appreciated GOD WILL HELP THEM WHO HELPED OTHERS > >> > >> *Please find below is thought process/approach: > >> *I am taking acceptance that person is not mentally retired and birth > >> details are correct no rectification required > >> > >> Quality of 7th house: > >> > >> * checking Ju in Libra in rashi/navamsa....navamsa has that...it > >> is RK,NRK and LoE..seems not good for marriage. > >> * checking Ve nakshatra in rashi...bharni...ok > >> * checking Su and Ve distance in rashi...less then 43...ok > >> * checking Ve is with Ra,St or aspect in rashi/navamsa.....Ve is > >> with St in navamsa....spoils Ve more > >> * checking LoA,LoB,LoC,LoD,LoE in rashi.....Ve,St..Mo,Ju > >> * checking planets with Ra in rashi/navamsa...Sa and Ju.....St is > >> LoC and Ju is loE for 7th house and LoA for 5th house. > >> * checking Ra aspects on house in > >> rashi/navamsa...9,12,2..7,9,11..12th is HoE,2nd is HoA,9th is > >> karak for HoA and HoC for child..7th is HB,11th is HC > >> * checking Ra aspects on planets in rashi and > >> navamsa...Me,Su......Me 6th lord become more malefic and Su LoB > >> for child case > >> * checking for planets with 6th/12th lord in rashi/navamsa..... > >> Ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord.....me is with ve in navamsa > >> spoils ve. > >> * checking for aspects on house in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th > >> lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... > >> * checking for aspects on planets in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th > >> lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... > >> * cheking malefic aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....Ju with 5 points > >> aspects to HoE,Ve with 6 points aspects to HB > >> * cheking benific aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....St with 2 points > >> also LoC aspects to HB,HA and Mo aspects to HB > >> > >> Blessings,compatibility,DBCE,strong house,strong planets: > >> > >> * as usual to be looked will look another time > >> > >> Finding significator: > >> > >> * checking for 2nd lord in rashi......Ve is 2nd lord...Ve antra > >> will bring more pain > >> * looking at 2,7,11 lords...ve and st....ve is with 6 points and > >> st is with 2 points ....left st less points and left ve 2nd lord > >> * looking at 2,7,11 occupents ...me and su...me is with 7 points > >> and su is with 4 points ...left su less points and left me 6th lord > >> * looking at 4,12 occupents...ju and ke(ju/ju)...so ju....ju is > >> with 5 points ....considering ju ...left as in Libra and aspect > >> malefic to HOE > >> * consider Reperesnter for Ra/Ke...Su,Ve/Ju,Ju......left Ra as > >> alresdy left su and ve,left ke as already left ju > >> * looking at 4,12 lords....Mo,ju....considering moon as already > >> left ju....mo may act.........still requires more time for me > >> to finalise > >> > >> > >> ------------------ > >> Regards, > >> Devisingh > >> > >> Ash's Corner wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> Dear Devisingh ji, > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Very nice attempt. Please continue your chain of thought. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Try to find the antra that you think might give marriage. Just go > >>> upto antra. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> So first compute the delay and there after start to think over the > >>> best possible period that u think can give the event. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> However, do write your thinking process. That will help one figure > >>> out where you are going away or your confusion. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Well Done. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> *Cheers !!!* > >>> > >>> *Ash -> **http://www.ashtro.ca <http://www.ashtro.ca/>* > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ** > >>> *On Behalf Of > >>> *devisigh > >>> *Sent:* Thursday November 5, 2009 6:42 AM > >>> *To:* > >>> *Subject:* Re: Re: Practice Chart > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Dear All; > >>> > >>> My first attempt using KAS rules/techniques only > >>> > >>> 7th house marriage: > >>> selecting Mo main Dasha which is with FK Ve for 7th house > >>> Su and Ju seems significator from ws points for 7th house > >>> other planets aspects 7th house i left them > >>> Su is with Me which is 6th load makes Su samdharmi to 6th lord i > >>> left that > >>> Ju having highest points and also LoE > >>> now considering Ju only as strong significator which in RK and NRK > >>> and natural samdharmi to Mo which is LoD. > >>> Ju does not have sight on A/B/C and is LoE can gives results > >>> > >>> Thinking for samdharmi of Ju > >>> in navamsa Ju is with Ra ...makes Ju and Ra samdharmi > >>> Ra can be thought to facilitate results for 7th house matters > >>> .......still this takes time for me to finalize > >>> > >>> ------------------ > >>> Regards, > >>> Devisingh > >>> > >>> > >>> ashsam73 wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Dear Nikhlesh ji, > >>> > >>> You are correct. It was a typo. It was good that I gave the > >>> degree of all planets so this mistake could be checked right in > >>> the begining. > >>> > >>> Thanks Nikhlesh ji. > >>> > >>> The date should be May 24th. > >>> > >>> 24th May 1979 > >>> 4:10 AM > >>> 28N40 > >>> 77E13 > >>> > >>> Sorry about that. > >>> > >>> Cheers !!! > >>> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca <http://www.ashtro.ca> > >>> > >>> > >>> <%40>, " nikhlesh > >>> mathur " <nikhleshmathur@> wrote: > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Sub: 24th Feb 1979, 4.10 am, 28.N.40, 77.E.13 > >>> > Dear Ash ji, > >>> > > >>> > You said that Su is 9Ta31 for the above native. But a person > >>> born on the month of Feb cannot have his Sun in Taurus sign. It > >>> should be in Aquarius at this time. > >>> > > >>> > If other things are okay then I think the birth date is 24th May. > >>> > > >>> > Please confirm. > >>> > > >>> > Regards, > >>> > Nikhlesh Mathur > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:47:29 +0530 wrote > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > Add to > >>> > this. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > 6) When > >>> > can the native face health problems? > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Cheers !!! > >>> > > >>> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca <http://www.ashtro.ca> > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Ash's Corner@ [kas@] > >>> > Monday October 26, 2009 > >>> > 12:18 AM > >>> > To: > >>> > ' > >>> <%27%40>' > >>> > Practice Chart > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Dear > >>> > Group, > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > This > >>> > lady has been posting charts in various lists for many years now. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Here is > >>> > the chart > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > 24th > >>> > Feb 1979 > >>> > > >>> > 4:10 AM > >>> > > >>> > 28N40 > >>> > > >>> > 77E13 > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > From > >>> > what I gather, she had an affair or liked some guy that she > >>> wanted to > >>> > marry. I am not clear from her posts > >>> > that if she married the same guy or not. > >>> > Her parents were looking out for some proposals for her. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > If this > >>> > chart came blindly to you, can you predict the following. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > 1) > >>> > Marriage > >>> > > >>> > 2) > >>> > Child birth > >>> > > >>> > 3) > >>> > Marital Relations overall > >>> > > >>> > 4) > >>> > She has been complaining that relations are bad after marriage and > >>> > asked if she should go for divorce. > >>> > > >>> > 5) > >>> > Why she had affair or what are the yogs for that in this chart. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Planet > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Degrees > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > As > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > 15 Ar 55 > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Su > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > 9 Ta 31 > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Mo > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > 13 Ar 48 > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Ma > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > 13 Ar 8 > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Me > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > 2 Ta 15 > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Ju > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > 11 Cn 16 > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Ve > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > 14 Ar 30 > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Sa > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > 14 Le 35 > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Ra > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > 20 Le 59 > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Ke > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > 20 Aq 59 > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Cheers !!! > >>> > > >>> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca <http://www.ashtro.ca> > >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 16, 2009 Dear Shalini ji, What do you think? Share your thoughts in detail and discuss. That is why this group is created to begin with so that discussion of such nature can be held and through discussion collective knowledge will grow. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , " shalini " <shalini3004 wrote: > > Dear Ash Ji and Group, > > If we change the time to 3:13am as I believe you have mentioned in earlier post, this gives Virgo as Lagna in D-9 chart where now Guru will be in second house (karaka house, HA) and is lord of HB, this would then give Guru delay, would this be correct? > > With Kind Regards, > > Shalini > > , devisigh <devisingh.rajput@> wrote: > > > > Dear All, > > > > Finally i am able to convince myself and fixed antra as below > > > > Selection of Ra/Ju antra is somewhat difficult as i have strong > > arguments for both side though i will go with Ju and considering Ra for > > affair before marriage > > > > 1) Marriage > > Mo-Ju antra will bring marriage > > > > 2) Child birth > > Mo-St antra brings child birth > > ----Ve is strong significator from ws points > > ----St is natural samdharmi to Ve > > ----St is in nakshatra of Ve and also cojoin Ve in navamsa > > ----St is LoE for 5th house can give child birth > > > > 3) Marital Relations overall > > ----karak Ve,Ju not good and marital relations seems not good > > ----except Ve all are having good points for 7th house not Bad > > > > 4) She has been complaining that relations are bad after marriage > > and asked if she should go for divorce. > > ----if she asked for divorce (which is obvious as karak are not good) > > then i suggest should not go for divorce...(looking DBCE and ws points > > for 7th house) > > > > 5) Why she had affair or what are the yogs for that in this chart. > > --there is delay in marriage and by considering 12th house (foreign > > relations) Ve is NK,FK for this and having less points for 12th > > --Mo-Ra(Venus) antra before marriage indicate that Ra being in 5th house > > can act as LoE and Eager to accoplish this. > > --Ve cojoin Ma and aspected by Ra in rashi > > --Ve in navamsa of Su and cojoin St in navamsa > > > > 6) Health > > ----Su is 12th lord for 6th house concern and placed in second house > > that will increase bad deed of this Su and this can gives health issues > > for native...in Ws Su has more then 11 points > > ----Me is strong significator from WS for 6th and 1st house and also it > > is LoD for 6th house and LoE for First house events > > ----Me being nakshatra of Su ...Me is samdharmi of Su and also LoB for > > 6th house with more then 5 points..... > > ----Me antra diffinately brings some health issues for native > > > > ------------------ > > Regards, > > Devisingh > > > > devisigh wrote: > > > Dear All; > > > > > > Some more thoughts to fix antra > > > > > > St full delay but st have moved 15 degree so considering 27.5-1.3=26.3 > > > year initial value > > > Ju aspects Hb in navamsa but is is in libra with rahu in navamsa and > > > in nakshtra of St so it can not check to saturn so full delay no help > > > from Ju to reduce delay as staus of Ju is not good > > > > > > no zero in SAV so no addition in delay > > > Blessing in navamsa but can not help to reduce delay > > > St is with Ra in rashi so more affilicted add delay > > > Mo aspected by Ra in rashi and St cojoin in navamsa ,As lumanaries are > > > aspected so that will add delay > > > > > > Main dasha lord Mo is OK as karka to give 7th house events > > > > > > Mo-Mo > > > Mo LoD and Natural Samdharmi to Ju can give event > > > > > > But I think this would not be case as some what delay have to be added > > > > > > Mo-Ma > > > Ju and Ma both in cancer one in rasi and another in navamsa makes them > > > samdharmi > > > Ju and Ma both are natural samdharmi > > > Ju and Ma 4:10 in rashi/navamsa > > > Ju LoE and high point So Event can be in 3rd sector of it.-----LEFT MA > > > IT CAN NOT ACT NOT REQUIRED > > > > > > > > > Mo-Ra > > > Ra represnts Su/Ve....considering more like Ve NK FK.... and cojoin Ju > > > in navamsa so samdahrmi to Ju > > > > > > so Event can be in 3rd sector of it.......seems not wise choice still > > > to me-----AFFAIR SEEMS MORE LOGICAL IN THIS TIME > > > > > > Mo-Ju > > > Ju Can give Event in 3rd Sector on it > > > > > > will come up with more thought as gets educated to this system > > > ------------------ > > > Regards, > > > Devisingh > > > > > > devisigh wrote: > > >> Dear Ash ji, > > >> > > >> Namaskar > > >> > > >> Sincere thanks for your words attitude intension and time. > > >> > > >> I am trying my all time what i can collect to study this system. > > >> I guess this can takes time may be 3year (less points till that time > > >> also indicate hardwork and busy for me) Will continue my > > >> attempt/doubts hope for comments from moderators for same. > > >> I am enjoying achieves thanks to Krushna,sanjay,Donna,Peter,Magritta > > >> and all very nice considering old time and situation. > > >> hope that will helps me to understand and utilize system and finally > > >> to absorb root or essence of system so other all system and vedic > > >> text can be clarified with same so better results can be obtained > > >> related to timing of events. > > >> Everybody is trying/pushing here only to help others using there own > > >> approach It is really appreciated GOD WILL HELP THEM WHO HELPED OTHERS > > >> > > >> *Please find below is thought process/approach: > > >> *I am taking acceptance that person is not mentally retired and birth > > >> details are correct no rectification required > > >> > > >> Quality of 7th house: > > >> > > >> * checking Ju in Libra in rashi/navamsa....navamsa has that...it > > >> is RK,NRK and LoE..seems not good for marriage. > > >> * checking Ve nakshatra in rashi...bharni...ok > > >> * checking Su and Ve distance in rashi...less then 43...ok > > >> * checking Ve is with Ra,St or aspect in rashi/navamsa.....Ve is > > >> with St in navamsa....spoils Ve more > > >> * checking LoA,LoB,LoC,LoD,LoE in rashi.....Ve,St..Mo,Ju > > >> * checking planets with Ra in rashi/navamsa...Sa and Ju.....St is > > >> LoC and Ju is loE for 7th house and LoA for 5th house. > > >> * checking Ra aspects on house in > > >> rashi/navamsa...9,12,2..7,9,11..12th is HoE,2nd is HoA,9th is > > >> karak for HoA and HoC for child..7th is HB,11th is HC > > >> * checking Ra aspects on planets in rashi and > > >> navamsa...Me,Su......Me 6th lord become more malefic and Su LoB > > >> for child case > > >> * checking for planets with 6th/12th lord in rashi/navamsa..... > > >> Ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord.....me is with ve in navamsa > > >> spoils ve. > > >> * checking for aspects on house in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th > > >> lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... > > >> * checking for aspects on planets in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th > > >> lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... > > >> * cheking malefic aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....Ju with 5 points > > >> aspects to HoE,Ve with 6 points aspects to HB > > >> * cheking benific aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....St with 2 points > > >> also LoC aspects to HB,HA and Mo aspects to HB > > >> > > >> Blessings,compatibility,DBCE,strong house,strong planets: > > >> > > >> * as usual to be looked will look another time > > >> > > >> Finding significator: > > >> > > >> * checking for 2nd lord in rashi......Ve is 2nd lord...Ve antra > > >> will bring more pain > > >> * looking at 2,7,11 lords...ve and st....ve is with 6 points and > > >> st is with 2 points ....left st less points and left ve 2nd lord > > >> * looking at 2,7,11 occupents ...me and su...me is with 7 points > > >> and su is with 4 points ...left su less points and left me 6th lord > > >> * looking at 4,12 occupents...ju and ke(ju/ju)...so ju....ju is > > >> with 5 points ....considering ju ...left as in Libra and aspect > > >> malefic to HOE > > >> * consider Reperesnter for Ra/Ke...Su,Ve/Ju,Ju......left Ra as > > >> alresdy left su and ve,left ke as already left ju > > >> * looking at 4,12 lords....Mo,ju....considering moon as already > > >> left ju....mo may act.........still requires more time for me > > >> to finalise > > >> > > >> > > >> ------------------ > > >> Regards, > > >> Devisingh > > >> > > >> Ash's Corner@ wrote: > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Dear Devisingh ji, > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Very nice attempt. Please continue your chain of thought. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Try to find the antra that you think might give marriage. Just go > > >>> upto antra. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> So first compute the delay and there after start to think over the > > >>> best possible period that u think can give the event. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> However, do write your thinking process. That will help one figure > > >>> out where you are going away or your confusion. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Well Done. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> *Cheers !!!* > > >>> > > >>> *Ash -> **http://www.ashtro.ca <http://www.ashtro.ca/>* > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> ** > > >>> *On Behalf Of > > >>> *devisigh > > >>> *Sent:* Thursday November 5, 2009 6:42 AM > > >>> *To:* > > >>> *Subject:* Re: Re: Practice Chart > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Dear All; > > >>> > > >>> My first attempt using KAS rules/techniques only > > >>> > > >>> 7th house marriage: > > >>> selecting Mo main Dasha which is with FK Ve for 7th house > > >>> Su and Ju seems significator from ws points for 7th house > > >>> other planets aspects 7th house i left them > > >>> Su is with Me which is 6th load makes Su samdharmi to 6th lord i > > >>> left that > > >>> Ju having highest points and also LoE > > >>> now considering Ju only as strong significator which in RK and NRK > > >>> and natural samdharmi to Mo which is LoD. > > >>> Ju does not have sight on A/B/C and is LoE can gives results > > >>> > > >>> Thinking for samdharmi of Ju > > >>> in navamsa Ju is with Ra ...makes Ju and Ra samdharmi > > >>> Ra can be thought to facilitate results for 7th house matters > > >>> .......still this takes time for me to finalize > > >>> > > >>> ------------------ > > >>> Regards, > > >>> Devisingh > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> ashsam73 wrote: > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Dear Nikhlesh ji, > > >>> > > >>> You are correct. It was a typo. It was good that I gave the > > >>> degree of all planets so this mistake could be checked right in > > >>> the begining. > > >>> > > >>> Thanks Nikhlesh ji. > > >>> > > >>> The date should be May 24th. > > >>> > > >>> 24th May 1979 > > >>> 4:10 AM > > >>> 28N40 > > >>> 77E13 > > >>> > > >>> Sorry about that. > > >>> > > >>> Cheers !!! > > >>> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca <http://www.ashtro.ca> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> <%40>, " nikhlesh > > >>> mathur " <nikhleshmathur@> wrote: > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > Sub: 24th Feb 1979, 4.10 am, 28.N.40, 77.E.13 > > >>> > Dear Ash ji, > > >>> > > > >>> > You said that Su is 9Ta31 for the above native. But a person > > >>> born on the month of Feb cannot have his Sun in Taurus sign. It > > >>> should be in Aquarius at this time. > > >>> > > > >>> > If other things are okay then I think the birth date is 24th May. > > >>> > > > >>> > Please confirm. > > >>> > > > >>> > Regards, > > >>> > Nikhlesh Mathur > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:47:29 +0530 wrote > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > Add to > > >>> > this. > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > 6) When > > >>> > can the native face health problems? > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > Cheers !!! > > >>> > > > >>> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca <http://www.ashtro.ca> > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > Ash's Corner@ [kas@] > > >>> > Monday October 26, 2009 > > >>> > 12:18 AM > > >>> > To: > > >>> > ' > > >>> <%27%40>' > > >>> > Practice Chart > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > Dear > > >>> > Group, > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > This > > >>> > lady has been posting charts in various lists for many years now. > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > Here is > > >>> > the chart > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > 24th > > >>> > Feb 1979 > > >>> > > > >>> > 4:10 AM > > >>> > > > >>> > 28N40 > > >>> > > > >>> > 77E13 > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > From > > >>> > what I gather, she had an affair or liked some guy that she > > >>> wanted to > > >>> > marry. I am not clear from her posts > > >>> > that if she married the same guy or not. > > >>> > Her parents were looking out for some proposals for her. > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > If this > > >>> > chart came blindly to you, can you predict the following. > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > 1) > > >>> > Marriage > > >>> > > > >>> > 2) > > >>> > Child birth > > >>> > > > >>> > 3) > > >>> > Marital Relations overall > > >>> > > > >>> > 4) > > >>> > She has been complaining that relations are bad after marriage and > > >>> > asked if she should go for divorce. > > >>> > > > >>> > 5) > > >>> > Why she had affair or what are the yogs for that in this chart. > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > Planet > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > Degrees > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > As > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > 15 Ar 55 > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > Su > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > 9 Ta 31 > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > Mo > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > 13 Ar 48 > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > Ma > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > 13 Ar 8 > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > Me > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > 2 Ta 15 > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > Ju > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > 11 Cn 16 > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > Ve > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > 14 Ar 30 > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > Sa > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > 14 Le 35 > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > Ra > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > 20 Le 59 > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > Ke > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > 20 Aq 59 > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > Cheers !!! > > >>> > > > >>> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca <http://www.ashtro.ca> > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 16, 2009 Dear Ash Ji and Group, Considering Lesson 36 these are my thoughts please correct me where I am straying off track. As per scenario 5 it states, " if guru is LoA or LoB it must be malefic for the houses it owns; less than 4 bindus. " This scenario takes place in her D-9 chart with 4:13 am time. If we consider Guru's bindus for Pisces in SAV we find that Guru gives 2 (for SAV totals in D-1,D-9 Charts do we consider D-9 chart SAV??) bindus, thus it would be malefic and there would be Guru delay I believe. Guru delay is considered over when it aspects 7H, 7L or crosses it's natal position and can be calculated only after Saturn delay is over. When Saturn delay is over Guru is in Virgo does not aspect 7h or 7L, then moves to HB does aspect 7L in lagna but I think because it is in HB in Libra the delay is not over, in scorpio also it does not aspect 7H, 7L. Then in Sagittarius it aspects 7L Venus then this should end Guru delay. Look forward to feedback. With Kind Regards, Shalini , " ashsam73 " <kas wrote: > > Dear Shalini ji, > > What do you think? Share your thoughts in detail and discuss. That is why this group is created to begin with so that discussion of such nature can be held and through discussion collective knowledge will grow. > > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > , " shalini " <shalini3004@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ash Ji and Group, > > > > If we change the time to 3:13am as I believe you have mentioned in earlier post, this gives Virgo as Lagna in D-9 chart where now Guru will be in second house (karaka house, HA) and is lord of HB, this would then give Guru delay, would this be correct? > > > > With Kind Regards, > > > > Shalini > > > > , devisigh <devisingh.rajput@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > Finally i am able to convince myself and fixed antra as below > > > > > > Selection of Ra/Ju antra is somewhat difficult as i have strong > > > arguments for both side though i will go with Ju and considering Ra for > > > affair before marriage > > > > > > 1) Marriage > > > Mo-Ju antra will bring marriage > > > > > > 2) Child birth > > > Mo-St antra brings child birth > > > ----Ve is strong significator from ws points > > > ----St is natural samdharmi to Ve > > > ----St is in nakshatra of Ve and also cojoin Ve in navamsa > > > ----St is LoE for 5th house can give child birth > > > > > > 3) Marital Relations overall > > > ----karak Ve,Ju not good and marital relations seems not good > > > ----except Ve all are having good points for 7th house not Bad > > > > > > 4) She has been complaining that relations are bad after marriage > > > and asked if she should go for divorce. > > > ----if she asked for divorce (which is obvious as karak are not good) > > > then i suggest should not go for divorce...(looking DBCE and ws points > > > for 7th house) > > > > > > 5) Why she had affair or what are the yogs for that in this chart. > > > --there is delay in marriage and by considering 12th house (foreign > > > relations) Ve is NK,FK for this and having less points for 12th > > > --Mo-Ra(Venus) antra before marriage indicate that Ra being in 5th house > > > can act as LoE and Eager to accoplish this. > > > --Ve cojoin Ma and aspected by Ra in rashi > > > --Ve in navamsa of Su and cojoin St in navamsa > > > > > > 6) Health > > > ----Su is 12th lord for 6th house concern and placed in second house > > > that will increase bad deed of this Su and this can gives health issues > > > for native...in Ws Su has more then 11 points > > > ----Me is strong significator from WS for 6th and 1st house and also it > > > is LoD for 6th house and LoE for First house events > > > ----Me being nakshatra of Su ...Me is samdharmi of Su and also LoB for > > > 6th house with more then 5 points..... > > > ----Me antra diffinately brings some health issues for native > > > > > > ------------------ > > > Regards, > > > Devisingh > > > > > > devisigh wrote: > > > > Dear All; > > > > > > > > Some more thoughts to fix antra > > > > > > > > St full delay but st have moved 15 degree so considering 27.5-1.3=26.3 > > > > year initial value > > > > Ju aspects Hb in navamsa but is is in libra with rahu in navamsa and > > > > in nakshtra of St so it can not check to saturn so full delay no help > > > > from Ju to reduce delay as staus of Ju is not good > > > > > > > > no zero in SAV so no addition in delay > > > > Blessing in navamsa but can not help to reduce delay > > > > St is with Ra in rashi so more affilicted add delay > > > > Mo aspected by Ra in rashi and St cojoin in navamsa ,As lumanaries are > > > > aspected so that will add delay > > > > > > > > Main dasha lord Mo is OK as karka to give 7th house events > > > > > > > > Mo-Mo > > > > Mo LoD and Natural Samdharmi to Ju can give event > > > > > > > > But I think this would not be case as some what delay have to be added > > > > > > > > Mo-Ma > > > > Ju and Ma both in cancer one in rasi and another in navamsa makes them > > > > samdharmi > > > > Ju and Ma both are natural samdharmi > > > > Ju and Ma 4:10 in rashi/navamsa > > > > Ju LoE and high point So Event can be in 3rd sector of it.-----LEFT MA > > > > IT CAN NOT ACT NOT REQUIRED > > > > > > > > > > > > Mo-Ra > > > > Ra represnts Su/Ve....considering more like Ve NK FK.... and cojoin Ju > > > > in navamsa so samdahrmi to Ju > > > > > > > > so Event can be in 3rd sector of it.......seems not wise choice still > > > > to me-----AFFAIR SEEMS MORE LOGICAL IN THIS TIME > > > > > > > > Mo-Ju > > > > Ju Can give Event in 3rd Sector on it > > > > > > > > will come up with more thought as gets educated to this system > > > > ------------------ > > > > Regards, > > > > Devisingh > > > > > > > > devisigh wrote: > > > >> Dear Ash ji, > > > >> > > > >> Namaskar > > > >> > > > >> Sincere thanks for your words attitude intension and time. > > > >> > > > >> I am trying my all time what i can collect to study this system. > > > >> I guess this can takes time may be 3year (less points till that time > > > >> also indicate hardwork and busy for me) Will continue my > > > >> attempt/doubts hope for comments from moderators for same. > > > >> I am enjoying achieves thanks to Krushna,sanjay,Donna,Peter,Magritta > > > >> and all very nice considering old time and situation. > > > >> hope that will helps me to understand and utilize system and finally > > > >> to absorb root or essence of system so other all system and vedic > > > >> text can be clarified with same so better results can be obtained > > > >> related to timing of events. > > > >> Everybody is trying/pushing here only to help others using there own > > > >> approach It is really appreciated GOD WILL HELP THEM WHO HELPED OTHERS > > > >> > > > >> *Please find below is thought process/approach: > > > >> *I am taking acceptance that person is not mentally retired and birth > > > >> details are correct no rectification required > > > >> > > > >> Quality of 7th house: > > > >> > > > >> * checking Ju in Libra in rashi/navamsa....navamsa has that...it > > > >> is RK,NRK and LoE..seems not good for marriage. > > > >> * checking Ve nakshatra in rashi...bharni...ok > > > >> * checking Su and Ve distance in rashi...less then 43...ok > > > >> * checking Ve is with Ra,St or aspect in rashi/navamsa.....Ve is > > > >> with St in navamsa....spoils Ve more > > > >> * checking LoA,LoB,LoC,LoD,LoE in rashi.....Ve,St..Mo,Ju > > > >> * checking planets with Ra in rashi/navamsa...Sa and Ju.....St is > > > >> LoC and Ju is loE for 7th house and LoA for 5th house. > > > >> * checking Ra aspects on house in > > > >> rashi/navamsa...9,12,2..7,9,11..12th is HoE,2nd is HoA,9th is > > > >> karak for HoA and HoC for child..7th is HB,11th is HC > > > >> * checking Ra aspects on planets in rashi and > > > >> navamsa...Me,Su......Me 6th lord become more malefic and Su LoB > > > >> for child case > > > >> * checking for planets with 6th/12th lord in rashi/navamsa..... > > > >> Ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord.....me is with ve in navamsa > > > >> spoils ve. > > > >> * checking for aspects on house in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th > > > >> lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... > > > >> * checking for aspects on planets in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th > > > >> lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... > > > >> * cheking malefic aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....Ju with 5 points > > > >> aspects to HoE,Ve with 6 points aspects to HB > > > >> * cheking benific aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....St with 2 points > > > >> also LoC aspects to HB,HA and Mo aspects to HB > > > >> > > > >> Blessings,compatibility,DBCE,strong house,strong planets: > > > >> > > > >> * as usual to be looked will look another time > > > >> > > > >> Finding significator: > > > >> > > > >> * checking for 2nd lord in rashi......Ve is 2nd lord...Ve antra > > > >> will bring more pain > > > >> * looking at 2,7,11 lords...ve and st....ve is with 6 points and > > > >> st is with 2 points ....left st less points and left ve 2nd lord > > > >> * looking at 2,7,11 occupents ...me and su...me is with 7 points > > > >> and su is with 4 points ...left su less points and left me 6th lord > > > >> * looking at 4,12 occupents...ju and ke(ju/ju)...so ju....ju is > > > >> with 5 points ....considering ju ...left as in Libra and aspect > > > >> malefic to HOE > > > >> * consider Reperesnter for Ra/Ke...Su,Ve/Ju,Ju......left Ra as > > > >> alresdy left su and ve,left ke as already left ju > > > >> * looking at 4,12 lords....Mo,ju....considering moon as already > > > >> left ju....mo may act.........still requires more time for me > > > >> to finalise > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> ------------------ > > > >> Regards, > > > >> Devisingh > > > >> > > > >> Ash's Corner@ wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> Dear Devisingh ji, > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> Very nice attempt. Please continue your chain of thought. > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> Try to find the antra that you think might give marriage. Just go > > > >>> upto antra. > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> So first compute the delay and there after start to think over the > > > >>> best possible period that u think can give the event. > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> However, do write your thinking process. That will help one figure > > > >>> out where you are going away or your confusion. > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> Well Done. > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> *Cheers !!!* > > > >>> > > > >>> *Ash -> **http://www.ashtro.ca <http://www.ashtro.ca/>* > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> ** > > > >>> *On Behalf Of > > > >>> *devisigh > > > >>> *Sent:* Thursday November 5, 2009 6:42 AM > > > >>> *To:* > > > >>> *Subject:* Re: Re: Practice Chart > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> Dear All; > > > >>> > > > >>> My first attempt using KAS rules/techniques only > > > >>> > > > >>> 7th house marriage: > > > >>> selecting Mo main Dasha which is with FK Ve for 7th house > > > >>> Su and Ju seems significator from ws points for 7th house > > > >>> other planets aspects 7th house i left them > > > >>> Su is with Me which is 6th load makes Su samdharmi to 6th lord i > > > >>> left that > > > >>> Ju having highest points and also LoE > > > >>> now considering Ju only as strong significator which in RK and NRK > > > >>> and natural samdharmi to Mo which is LoD. > > > >>> Ju does not have sight on A/B/C and is LoE can gives results > > > >>> > > > >>> Thinking for samdharmi of Ju > > > >>> in navamsa Ju is with Ra ...makes Ju and Ra samdharmi > > > >>> Ra can be thought to facilitate results for 7th house matters > > > >>> .......still this takes time for me to finalize > > > >>> > > > >>> ------------------ > > > >>> Regards, > > > >>> Devisingh > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> ashsam73 wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> Dear Nikhlesh ji, > > > >>> > > > >>> You are correct. It was a typo. It was good that I gave the > > > >>> degree of all planets so this mistake could be checked right in > > > >>> the begining. > > > >>> > > > >>> Thanks Nikhlesh ji. > > > >>> > > > >>> The date should be May 24th. > > > >>> > > > >>> 24th May 1979 > > > >>> 4:10 AM > > > >>> 28N40 > > > >>> 77E13 > > > >>> > > > >>> Sorry about that. > > > >>> > > > >>> Cheers !!! > > > >>> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca <http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> <%40>, " nikhlesh > > > >>> mathur " <nikhleshmathur@> wrote: > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > Sub: 24th Feb 1979, 4.10 am, 28.N.40, 77.E.13 > > > >>> > Dear Ash ji, > > > >>> > > > > >>> > You said that Su is 9Ta31 for the above native. But a person > > > >>> born on the month of Feb cannot have his Sun in Taurus sign. It > > > >>> should be in Aquarius at this time. > > > >>> > > > > >>> > If other things are okay then I think the birth date is 24th May. > > > >>> > > > > >>> > Please confirm. > > > >>> > > > > >>> > Regards, > > > >>> > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:47:29 +0530 wrote > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > Add to > > > >>> > this. > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > 6) When > > > >>> > can the native face health problems? > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > Cheers !!! > > > >>> > > > > >>> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca <http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > Ash's Corner@ [kas@] > > > >>> > Monday October 26, 2009 > > > >>> > 12:18 AM > > > >>> > To: > > > >>> > ' > > > >>> <%27%40>' > > > >>> > Practice Chart > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > Dear > > > >>> > Group, > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > This > > > >>> > lady has been posting charts in various lists for many years now. > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > Here is > > > >>> > the chart > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > 24th > > > >>> > Feb 1979 > > > >>> > > > > >>> > 4:10 AM > > > >>> > > > > >>> > 28N40 > > > >>> > > > > >>> > 77E13 > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > From > > > >>> > what I gather, she had an affair or liked some guy that she > > > >>> wanted to > > > >>> > marry. I am not clear from her posts > > > >>> > that if she married the same guy or not. > > > >>> > Her parents were looking out for some proposals for her. > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > If this > > > >>> > chart came blindly to you, can you predict the following. > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > 1) > > > >>> > Marriage > > > >>> > > > > >>> > 2) > > > >>> > Child birth > > > >>> > > > > >>> > 3) > > > >>> > Marital Relations overall > > > >>> > > > > >>> > 4) > > > >>> > She has been complaining that relations are bad after marriage and > > > >>> > asked if she should go for divorce. > > > >>> > > > > >>> > 5) > > > >>> > Why she had affair or what are the yogs for that in this chart. > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > Planet > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > Degrees > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > As > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > 15 Ar 55 > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > Su > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > 9 Ta 31 > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > Mo > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > 13 Ar 48 > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > Ma > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > 13 Ar 8 > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > Me > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > 2 Ta 15 > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > Ju > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > 11 Cn 16 > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > Ve > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > 14 Ar 30 > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > Sa > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > 14 Le 35 > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > Ra > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > 20 Le 59 > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > Ke > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > 20 Aq 59 > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > Cheers !!! > > > >>> > > > > >>> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca <http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 16, 2009 Dear Shalini ji and group, When Ju is LoE and is in house D with 5 bindus,how it can cause delay? Ju itself is eager to give marriage,so it can not be a reason for delay. Regards Anup --- On Tue, 17/11/09, shalini <shalini3004 wrote: shalini <shalini3004 Re: Practice Chart Date: Tuesday, 17 November, 2009, 5:27 AM Dear Ash Ji and Group,Considering Lesson 36 these are my thoughts please correct me where I am straying off track. As per scenario 5 it states, "if guru is LoA or LoB it must be malefic for the houses it owns; less than 4 bindus."This scenario takes place in her D-9 chart with 4:13 am time. If we consider Guru's bindus for Pisces in SAV we find that Guru gives 2 (for SAV totals in D-1,D-9 Charts do we consider D-9 chart SAV??) bindus, thus it would be malefic and there would be Guru delay I believe. Guru delay is considered over when it aspects 7H, 7L or crosses it's natal position and can be calculated only after Saturn delay is over. When Saturn delay is over Guru is in Virgo does not aspect 7h or 7L, then moves to HB does aspect 7L in lagna but I think because it is in HB in Libra the delay is not over, in scorpio also it does not aspect 7H, 7L. Then in Sagittarius it aspects 7L Venus then this should end Guru delay. Look forward to feedback.With Kind Regards,Shaliniastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "ashsam73" <kas wrote:>> Dear Shalini ji,> > What do you think? Share your thoughts in detail and discuss. That is why this group is created to begin with so that discussion of such nature can be held and through discussion collective knowledge will grow. > > > Cheers !!!> Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca> > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "shalini" <shalini3004@ > wrote:> >> > Dear Ash Ji and Group,> > > > If we change the time to 3:13am as I believe you have mentioned in earlier post, this gives Virgo as Lagna in D-9 chart where now Guru will be in second house (karaka house, HA) and is lord of HB, this would then give Guru delay, would this be correct? > > > > With Kind Regards,> > > > Shalini> > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ > wrote:> > >> > > Dear All,> > > > > > Finally i am able to convince myself and fixed antra as below> > > > > > Selection of Ra/Ju antra is somewhat difficult as i have strong > > > arguments for both side though i will go with Ju and considering Ra for > > > affair before marriage> > > > > > 1) Marriage> > > Mo-Ju antra will bring marriage> > > > > > 2) Child birth> > > Mo-St antra brings child birth> > > ----Ve is strong significator from ws points> > > ----St is natural samdharmi to Ve> > > ----St is in nakshatra of Ve and also cojoin Ve in navamsa > > > ----St is LoE for 5th house can give child birth> > > > > > 3) Marital Relations overall> > > ----karak Ve,Ju not good and marital relations seems not good> > > ----except Ve all are having good points for 7th house not Bad> > > > > > 4) She has been complaining that relations are bad after marriage > > > and asked if she should go for divorce.> > > ----if she asked for divorce (which is obvious as karak are not good) > > > then i suggest should not go for divorce...(looking DBCE and ws points > > > for 7th house)> > > > > > 5) Why she had affair or what are the yogs for that in this chart.> > > --there is delay in marriage and by considering 12th house (foreign > > > relations) Ve is NK,FK for this and having less points for 12th> > > --Mo-Ra(Venus) antra before marriage indicate that Ra being in 5th house > > > can act as LoE and Eager to accoplish this.> > > --Ve cojoin Ma and aspected by Ra in rashi> > > --Ve in navamsa of Su and cojoin St in navamsa> > > > > > 6) Health> > > ----Su is 12th lord for 6th house concern and placed in second house > > > that will increase bad deed of this Su and this can gives health issues > > > for native...in Ws Su has more then 11 points> > > ----Me is strong significator from WS for 6th and 1st house and also it > > > is LoD for 6th house and LoE for First house events> > > ----Me being nakshatra of Su ...Me is samdharmi of Su and also LoB for > > > 6th house with more then 5 points.....> > > ----Me antra diffinately brings some health issues for native> > > > > > ------------ ------> > > Regards,> > > Devisingh> > > > > > devisigh wrote:> > > > Dear All;> > > >> > > > Some more thoughts to fix antra> > > >> > > > St full delay but st have moved 15 degree so considering 27.5-1.3=26. 3 > > > > year initial value> > > > Ju aspects Hb in navamsa but is is in libra with rahu in navamsa and > > > > in nakshtra of St so it can not check to saturn so full delay no help > > > > from Ju to reduce delay as staus of Ju is not good> > > >> > > > no zero in SAV so no addition in delay> > > > Blessing in navamsa but can not help to reduce delay> > > > St is with Ra in rashi so more affilicted add delay> > > > Mo aspected by Ra in rashi and St cojoin in navamsa ,As lumanaries are > > > > aspected so that will add delay> > > >> > > > Main dasha lord Mo is OK as karka to give 7th house events> > > >> > > > Mo-Mo> > > > Mo LoD and Natural Samdharmi to Ju can give event> > > >> > > > But I think this would not be case as some what delay have to be added> > > >> > > > Mo-Ma> > > > Ju and Ma both in cancer one in rasi and another in navamsa makes them > > > > samdharmi> > > > Ju and Ma both are natural samdharmi> > > > Ju and Ma 4:10 in rashi/navamsa> > > > Ju LoE and high point So Event can be in 3rd sector of it.-----LEFT MA > > > > IT CAN NOT ACT NOT REQUIRED> > > >> > > >> > > > Mo-Ra> > > > Ra represnts Su/Ve....considerin g more like Ve NK FK.... and cojoin Ju > > > > in navamsa so samdahrmi to Ju> > > >> > > > so Event can be in 3rd sector of it.......seems not wise choice still > > > > to me-----AFFAIR SEEMS MORE LOGICAL IN THIS TIME> > > >> > > > Mo-Ju> > > > Ju Can give Event in 3rd Sector on it> > > >> > > > will come up with more thought as gets educated to this system> > > > ------------ ------> > > > Regards,> > > > Devisingh> > > >> > > > devisigh wrote:> > > >> Dear Ash ji,> > > >>> > > >> Namaskar> > > >>> > > >> Sincere thanks for your words attitude intension and time.> > > >>> > > >> I am trying my all time what i can collect to study this system.> > > >> I guess this can takes time may be 3year (less points till that time > > > >> also indicate hardwork and busy for me) Will continue my > > > >> attempt/doubts hope for comments from moderators for same.> > > >> I am enjoying achieves thanks to Krushna,sanjay, Donna,Peter, Magritta > > > >> and all very nice considering old time and situation.> > > >> hope that will helps me to understand and utilize system and finally > > > >> to absorb root or essence of system so other all system and vedic > > > >> text can be clarified with same so better results can be obtained > > > >> related to timing of events.> > > >> Everybody is trying/pushing here only to help others using there own > > > >> approach It is really appreciated GOD WILL HELP THEM WHO HELPED OTHERS> > > >>> > > >> *Please find below is thought process/approach:> > > >> *I am taking acceptance that person is not mentally retired and birth > > > >> details are correct no rectification required> > > >>> > > >> Quality of 7th house:> > > >>> > > >> * checking Ju in Libra in rashi/navamsa. ...navamsa has that...it> > > >> is RK,NRK and LoE..seems not good for marriage.> > > >> * checking Ve nakshatra in rashi...bharni. ..ok> > > >> * checking Su and Ve distance in rashi...less then 43...ok> > > >> * checking Ve is with Ra,St or aspect in rashi/navamsa. ....Ve is> > > >> with St in navamsa....spoils Ve more> > > >> * checking LoA,LoB,LoC, LoD,LoE in rashi.....Ve, St..Mo,Ju> > > >> * checking planets with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ..Sa and Ju.....St is> > > >> LoC and Ju is loE for 7th house and LoA for 5th house.> > > >> * checking Ra aspects on house in> > > >> rashi/navamsa. ..9,12,2. .7,9,11.. 12th is HoE,2nd is HoA,9th is> > > >> karak for HoA and HoC for child..7th is HB,11th is HC> > > >> * checking Ra aspects on planets in rashi and> > > >> navamsa...Me, Su......Me 6th lord become more malefic and Su LoB> > > >> for child case> > > >> * checking for planets with 6th/12th lord in rashi/navamsa. ....> > > >> Ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord.....me is with ve in navamsa> > > >> spoils ve.> > > >> * checking for aspects on house in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th> > > >> lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord.....> > > >> * checking for aspects on planets in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th> > > >> lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord.....> > > >> * cheking malefic aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....Ju with 5 points> > > >> aspects to HoE,Ve with 6 points aspects to HB> > > >> * cheking benific aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....St with 2 points> > > >> also LoC aspects to HB,HA and Mo aspects to HB> > > >>> > > >> Blessings,compatibi lity,DBCE, strong house,strong planets:> > > >>> > > >> * as usual to be looked will look another time> > > >>> > > >> Finding significator:> > > >>> > > >> * checking for 2nd lord in rashi......Ve is 2nd lord...Ve antra> > > >> will bring more pain> > > >> * looking at 2,7,11 lords...ve and st....ve is with 6 points and> > > >> st is with 2 points ....left st less points and left ve 2nd lord> > > >> * looking at 2,7,11 occupents ...me and su...me is with 7 points> > > >> and su is with 4 points ...left su less points and left me 6th lord> > > >> * looking at 4,12 occupents... ju and ke(ju/ju)... so ju....ju is> > > >> with 5 points ....considering ju ...left as in Libra and aspect> > > >> malefic to HOE> > > >> * consider Reperesnter for Ra/Ke...Su,Ve/ Ju,Ju.... ..left Ra as> > > >> alresdy left su and ve,left ke as already left ju> > > >> * looking at 4,12 lords....Mo, ju....considerin g moon as already> > > >> left ju....mo may act......... still requires more time for me> > > >> to finalise> > > >>> > > >>> > > >> ------------ ------> > > >> Regards,> > > >> Devisingh> > > >>> > > >> Ash's Corner@ wrote:> > > >>> > > > >>>> > > >>> Dear Devisingh ji,> > > >>>> > > >>> > > > >>>> > > >>> Very nice attempt. Please continue your chain of thought.> > > >>>> > > >>> > > > >>>> > > >>> Try to find the antra that you think might give marriage. Just go > > > >>> upto antra.> > > >>>> > > >>> > > > >>>> > > >>> So first compute the delay and there after start to think over the > > > >>> best possible period that u think can give the event.> > > >>>> > > >>> > > > >>>> > > >>> However, do write your thinking process. That will help one figure > > > >>> out where you are going away or your confusion.> > > >>>> > > >>> > > > >>>> > > >>> Well Done.> > > >>>> > > >>> > > > >>>> > > >>> *Cheers !!!*> > > >>>> > > >>> *Ash -> **http://www.ashtro. ca <http://www.ashtro. ca/>*> > > >>>> > > >>> > > > >>>> > > >>> ** astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > >>> [astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com] *On Behalf Of > > > >>> *devisigh> > > >>> *Sent:* Thursday November 5, 2009 6:42 AM> > > >>> *To:* astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> > > >>> *Subject:* Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart> > > >>>> > > >>> > > > >>>> > > >>> > > > >>>> > > >>> Dear All;> > > >>>> > > >>> My first attempt using KAS rules/techniques only> > > >>>> > > >>> 7th house marriage:> > > >>> selecting Mo main Dasha which is with FK Ve for 7th house> > > >>> Su and Ju seems significator from ws points for 7th house> > > >>> other planets aspects 7th house i left them> > > >>> Su is with Me which is 6th load makes Su samdharmi to 6th lord i > > > >>> left that> > > >>> Ju having highest points and also LoE> > > >>> now considering Ju only as strong significator which in RK and NRK > > > >>> and natural samdharmi to Mo which is LoD.> > > >>> Ju does not have sight on A/B/C and is LoE can gives results> > > >>>> > > >>> Thinking for samdharmi of Ju> > > >>> in navamsa Ju is with Ra ...makes Ju and Ra samdharmi> > > >>> Ra can be thought to facilitate results for 7th house matters > > > >>> .......still this takes time for me to finalize> > > >>>> > > >>> ------------ ------> > > >>> Regards,> > > >>> Devisingh> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>> ashsam73 wrote:> > > >>>> > > >>> > > > >>>> > > >>> Dear Nikhlesh ji,> > > >>>> > > >>> You are correct. It was a typo. It was good that I gave the> > > >>> degree of all planets so this mistake could be checked right in> > > >>> the begining.> > > >>>> > > >>> Thanks Nikhlesh ji.> > > >>>> > > >>> The date should be May 24th.> > > >>>> > > >>> 24th May 1979> > > >>> 4:10 AM> > > >>> 28N40> > > >>> 77E13> > > >>>> > > >>> Sorry about that.> > > >>>> > > >>> Cheers !!!> > > >>> Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca <http://www.ashtro. ca>> > > >>>> > > >>> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> > > >>> <astrologyan dtimingevents% 40. com>, "nikhlesh> > > >>> mathur" <nikhleshmathur@ > wrote:> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> > Sub: 24th Feb 1979, 4.10 am, 28.N.40, 77.E.13> > > >>> > Dear Ash ji,> > > >>> >> > > >>> > You said that Su is 9Ta31 for the above native. But a person> > > >>> born on the month of Feb cannot have his Sun in Taurus sign. It> > > >>> should be in Aquarius at this time.> > > >>> >> > > >>> > If other things are okay then I think the birth date is 24th May.> > > >>> >> > > >>> > Please confirm.> > > >>> >> > > >>> > Regards,> > > >>> > Nikhlesh Mathur> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> > On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:47:29 +0530 wrote> > > >>> > >> > > >>> >> > > >>> > Add to> > > >>> > this.> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> > 6) When> > > >>> > can the native face health problems?> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> > Cheers !!!> > > >>> >> > > >>> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca <http://www.ashtro. ca>> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> > Ash's Corner@ [kas@ ]> > > >>> > Monday October 26, 2009> > > >>> > 12:18 AM> > > >>> > To:> > > >>> > 'astrologyandtiming events@grou ps.com> > > >>> <%27astrolog yandtimingevents %40. com>'> > > >>> > Practice Chart> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> > Dear> > > >>> > Group,> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> > This> > > >>> > lady has been posting charts in various lists for many years now.> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> > Here is> > > >>> > the chart> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> > 24th> > > >>> > Feb 1979> > > >>> >> > > >>> > 4:10 AM> > > >>> >> > > >>> > 28N40> > > >>> >> > > >>> > 77E13> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> > From> > > >>> > what I gather, she had an affair or liked some guy that she> > > >>> wanted to> > > >>> > marry. I am not clear from her posts> > > >>> > that if she married the same guy or not.> > > >>> > Her parents were looking out for some proposals for her.> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> > If this> > > >>> > chart came blindly to you, can you predict the following.> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> > 1)> > > >>> > Marriage> > > >>> >> > > >>> > 2)> > > >>> > Child birth> > > >>> >> > > >>> > 3)> > > >>> > Marital Relations overall> > > >>> >> > > >>> > 4)> > > >>> > She has been complaining that relations are bad after marriage and> > > >>> > asked if she should go for divorce.> > > >>> >> > > >>> > 5)> > > >>> > Why she had affair or what are the yogs for that in this chart.> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> > Planet> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> > Degrees> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> > As> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> > 15 Ar 55> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> > Su> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> > 9 Ta 31> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> > Mo> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> > 13 Ar 48> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> > Ma> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> > 13 Ar 8> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> > Me> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> > 2 Ta 15> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> > Ju> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> > 11 Cn 16> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> > Ve> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> > 14 Ar 30> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> > Sa> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> > 14 Le 35> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> > Ra> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> > 20 Le 59> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> > Ke> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> > 20 Aq 59> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> > Cheers !!!> > > >>> >> > > >>> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca <http://www.ashtro. ca>> > > >>> >> > > >>>> > > >>> > > > >>>> > > >>> > > > >>> > > >> > >> >> The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Report post Posted November 16, 2009 DOB: 24 May 1979; TOB: 4.13 am; POB: 28N40, 77E13 Dear Shalini ji, When I change the time to 3:13 am instead of 4:13 am then on the contrary I did NOT get Virgo ascendant in the D-9 chart. I got Pi in D-9 chart and Pi in D-1 also. Please also let us know what made you change the time by an hour because we do not have events to justify / cross-check the time change. Uptil now we know only two things for sure....ie... i) She is married. ii)She has unhappiness in marriage. Incidently with 3:13 am time there is no Sa delay either. Please check again the ascendant which you get with 3:13 am so that If I am making an error in data entry then the same can be corrected. Regards, nikhlesh mathur On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 01:39:02 +0530 wrote , "shalini" wrote: > > Dear Ash Ji and Group, > > If we change the time to 3:13am as I believe you have mentioned in earlier post, this gives Virgo as Lagna in D-9 chart where now Guru will be in second house (karaka house, HA) and is lord of HB, this would then give Guru delay, would this be correct? > > With Kind Regards, > > Shalini > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 17, 2009 Dear Nikhlesh Ji, Yes, it should read 4:13 am. Sorry about that. With Kind Regards, Shalini , " nikhlesh mathur " <nikhleshmathur wrote: > > > DOB: 24 May 1979; TOB: 4.13 am; POB: 28N40, 77E13 > > Dear Shalini ji, > > When I change the time to 3:13 am instead of 4:13 am then on the contrary I did NOT get Virgo ascendant in the D-9 chart. > > I got Pi in D-9 chart and Pi in D-1 also. > > Please also let us know what made you change the time by an hour because we do not have events to justify / cross-check the time change. > > Uptil now we know only two things for sure....ie... > > i) She is married. > ii)She has unhappiness in marriage. > > Incidently with 3:13 am time there is no Sa delay either. > > Please check again the ascendant which you get with 3:13 am so that If I am making an error in data entry then the same can be corrected. > > Regards, > nikhlesh mathur > > On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 01:39:02 +0530 wrote > > , " shalini " wrote: > > > > Dear Ash Ji and Group, > > > > If we change the time to 3:13am as I believe you have mentioned in earlier post, this gives Virgo as Lagna in D-9 chart where now Guru will be in second house (karaka house, HA) and is lord of HB, this would then give Guru delay, would this be correct? > > > > With Kind Regards, > > > > Shalini > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 17, 2009 Dear Shalini ji, All your questions that you have asked have been replied by me at some point or the other. I agree, that it might not be easy to find all my mails as the archives is growing, but then with the new search feature it might make it a tad more simplified. More than anything, else, I would like u to practice. I might be available to reply to all your queries, as life is getting me very busy now a days, then in that case what to do? Here I will give you some guidance that I have personally gone though. I used to ask all kinds of questions to Guru ji, and you can see that in the archives, and I am sure everyone has seen that. That is normal. That time, the archives had only so much information and Guru ji patiently answered and still does answer all my questions. There came one time, when, I look back now, I asked him some question and he advised me to practice. There was some concept that somehow was a hurdle and I kept getting stuck there, and I see that in your questions that you keep getting stuck on trying to judge the delay of Jupiter or when u get stuck in trying to find if a particular antra can give result or you are not following the steps corectly or maybe overlooking something and then u get stuck up and then want an answer. Again, I understand that, I understand where you are coming from, as I have personally walked down that same path. Likewise, if you see Anup ji, or Prabha ji or just for that matter Nikhlesh ji, Ramesh ji etc etc, these names I am taking as I am seeing their progress from a long time by their inputs on the list oh and Hussein ji as well. All of them are taking charts and practicing. So here are some steps that you can follow as a guide. 1) Take charts, dont assume any chart as accurate, but find charts with event dates given. 2) Do not look at the events. You can get a host of charts from the archives with given events. 3) Cast the chart, take a print out of the same. 4) Clear your mind of all worries, stress, or anything else. 5) With a cool mind just focus on the chart. Just see the chart and note down key points some observatations. 6) Like of example observatons DBCE points, what do u see the nature of the person is, what is the lagna points, does the native has blessings, any zeroes, any 4:10 or any 4:10 with opposition or some other salient points that u can see like Ve in krittika, Ju in libra etc etc etc.. 7) Then focus on the question and then note down key poitns for that area of study. Say u are studing marriage then check the laws for marriage, first check if marriage is promised, then get a judge on quality, the lagna and 7th etc etc relations, study karak and rk, study 0's, study from desh, kaal, paatra, study delay etc etc etc. 8) Then start to narrow down to timing. For that first come to antra. Try to judge if that antra can give marriage, or if there are any overriding principles for moderating or removing delays like blessings of ju aspect on sa etc etc. 9) Then note down your doubts, if u are not certain of the antra. 10) Move to the next antra if u are not sure and note down YOUR REASONS. This is for you only. So that u can keep a trail of your questions and where u are getting stuck. 11) Then solve other events like job, child birth etc etc as per the chart u have taken. 12) Check the answre and then check your analysis and then u will get where if u are correct of where have u made mistake. 13) Note down your mistake along with your analysis and where u got stuck. 14) Remember this and solve next chart. If u solve 1000's of charts in due course of time, and each time remember where u have made mistakes, then with experience will come intution. You will also get the variations in some cases where Ju is causing delay where Sa is causing or delay is more than 36 years or 42 years in special cases so like that. There is a huge repository of charts with events solved in the archives, make us of it. Then when someone asks questiosn like wil ju cause delay and such and such is the scenario, then u will know the answer from you strong knowledge base and your intution will guide u. As the adage goes " Give a fish and he eats for a day, teahc him to fish and he eats for a life time " Hope that helps, Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , " shalini " <shalini3004 wrote: > > Dear Ash Ji and Group, > > Considering Lesson 36 these are my thoughts please correct me where I am straying off track. As per scenario 5 it states, " if guru is LoA or LoB it must be malefic for the houses it owns; less than 4 bindus. " > > This scenario takes place in her D-9 chart with 4:13 am time. If we consider Guru's bindus for Pisces in SAV we find that Guru gives 2 > > (for SAV totals in D-1,D-9 Charts do we consider D-9 chart SAV??) > > bindus, thus it would be malefic and there would be Guru delay I believe. Guru delay is considered over when it aspects 7H, 7L or crosses it's natal position and can be calculated only after Saturn delay is over. When Saturn delay is over Guru is in Virgo does not aspect 7h or 7L, then moves to HB does aspect 7L in lagna but I think because it is in HB in Libra the delay is not over, in scorpio also it does not aspect 7H, 7L. Then in Sagittarius it aspects 7L Venus then this should end Guru delay. > Look forward to feedback. > > With Kind Regards, > > Shalini > > , " ashsam73 " <kas@> wrote: > > > > Dear Shalini ji, > > > > What do you think? Share your thoughts in detail and discuss. That is why this group is created to begin with so that discussion of such nature can be held and through discussion collective knowledge will grow. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > , " shalini " <shalini3004@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ash Ji and Group, > > > > > > If we change the time to 3:13am as I believe you have mentioned in earlier post, this gives Virgo as Lagna in D-9 chart where now Guru will be in second house (karaka house, HA) and is lord of HB, this would then give Guru delay, would this be correct? > > > > > > With Kind Regards, > > > > > > Shalini > > > > > > , devisigh <devisingh.rajput@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > Finally i am able to convince myself and fixed antra as below > > > > > > > > Selection of Ra/Ju antra is somewhat difficult as i have strong > > > > arguments for both side though i will go with Ju and considering Ra for > > > > affair before marriage > > > > > > > > 1) Marriage > > > > Mo-Ju antra will bring marriage > > > > > > > > 2) Child birth > > > > Mo-St antra brings child birth > > > > ----Ve is strong significator from ws points > > > > ----St is natural samdharmi to Ve > > > > ----St is in nakshatra of Ve and also cojoin Ve in navamsa > > > > ----St is LoE for 5th house can give child birth > > > > > > > > 3) Marital Relations overall > > > > ----karak Ve,Ju not good and marital relations seems not good > > > > ----except Ve all are having good points for 7th house not Bad > > > > > > > > 4) She has been complaining that relations are bad after marriage > > > > and asked if she should go for divorce. > > > > ----if she asked for divorce (which is obvious as karak are not good) > > > > then i suggest should not go for divorce...(looking DBCE and ws points > > > > for 7th house) > > > > > > > > 5) Why she had affair or what are the yogs for that in this chart. > > > > --there is delay in marriage and by considering 12th house (foreign > > > > relations) Ve is NK,FK for this and having less points for 12th > > > > --Mo-Ra(Venus) antra before marriage indicate that Ra being in 5th house > > > > can act as LoE and Eager to accoplish this. > > > > --Ve cojoin Ma and aspected by Ra in rashi > > > > --Ve in navamsa of Su and cojoin St in navamsa > > > > > > > > 6) Health > > > > ----Su is 12th lord for 6th house concern and placed in second house > > > > that will increase bad deed of this Su and this can gives health issues > > > > for native...in Ws Su has more then 11 points > > > > ----Me is strong significator from WS for 6th and 1st house and also it > > > > is LoD for 6th house and LoE for First house events > > > > ----Me being nakshatra of Su ...Me is samdharmi of Su and also LoB for > > > > 6th house with more then 5 points..... > > > > ----Me antra diffinately brings some health issues for native > > > > > > > > ------------------ > > > > Regards, > > > > Devisingh > > > > > > > > devisigh wrote: > > > > > Dear All; > > > > > > > > > > Some more thoughts to fix antra > > > > > > > > > > St full delay but st have moved 15 degree so considering 27.5-1.3=26.3 > > > > > year initial value > > > > > Ju aspects Hb in navamsa but is is in libra with rahu in navamsa and > > > > > in nakshtra of St so it can not check to saturn so full delay no help > > > > > from Ju to reduce delay as staus of Ju is not good > > > > > > > > > > no zero in SAV so no addition in delay > > > > > Blessing in navamsa but can not help to reduce delay > > > > > St is with Ra in rashi so more affilicted add delay > > > > > Mo aspected by Ra in rashi and St cojoin in navamsa ,As lumanaries are > > > > > aspected so that will add delay > > > > > > > > > > Main dasha lord Mo is OK as karka to give 7th house events > > > > > > > > > > Mo-Mo > > > > > Mo LoD and Natural Samdharmi to Ju can give event > > > > > > > > > > But I think this would not be case as some what delay have to be added > > > > > > > > > > Mo-Ma > > > > > Ju and Ma both in cancer one in rasi and another in navamsa makes them > > > > > samdharmi > > > > > Ju and Ma both are natural samdharmi > > > > > Ju and Ma 4:10 in rashi/navamsa > > > > > Ju LoE and high point So Event can be in 3rd sector of it.-----LEFT MA > > > > > IT CAN NOT ACT NOT REQUIRED > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mo-Ra > > > > > Ra represnts Su/Ve....considering more like Ve NK FK.... and cojoin Ju > > > > > in navamsa so samdahrmi to Ju > > > > > > > > > > so Event can be in 3rd sector of it.......seems not wise choice still > > > > > to me-----AFFAIR SEEMS MORE LOGICAL IN THIS TIME > > > > > > > > > > Mo-Ju > > > > > Ju Can give Event in 3rd Sector on it > > > > > > > > > > will come up with more thought as gets educated to this system > > > > > ------------------ > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Devisingh > > > > > > > > > > devisigh wrote: > > > > >> Dear Ash ji, > > > > >> > > > > >> Namaskar > > > > >> > > > > >> Sincere thanks for your words attitude intension and time. > > > > >> > > > > >> I am trying my all time what i can collect to study this system. > > > > >> I guess this can takes time may be 3year (less points till that time > > > > >> also indicate hardwork and busy for me) Will continue my > > > > >> attempt/doubts hope for comments from moderators for same. > > > > >> I am enjoying achieves thanks to Krushna,sanjay,Donna,Peter,Magritta > > > > >> and all very nice considering old time and situation. > > > > >> hope that will helps me to understand and utilize system and finally > > > > >> to absorb root or essence of system so other all system and vedic > > > > >> text can be clarified with same so better results can be obtained > > > > >> related to timing of events. > > > > >> Everybody is trying/pushing here only to help others using there own > > > > >> approach It is really appreciated GOD WILL HELP THEM WHO HELPED OTHERS > > > > >> > > > > >> *Please find below is thought process/approach: > > > > >> *I am taking acceptance that person is not mentally retired and birth > > > > >> details are correct no rectification required > > > > >> > > > > >> Quality of 7th house: > > > > >> > > > > >> * checking Ju in Libra in rashi/navamsa....navamsa has that...it > > > > >> is RK,NRK and LoE..seems not good for marriage. > > > > >> * checking Ve nakshatra in rashi...bharni...ok > > > > >> * checking Su and Ve distance in rashi...less then 43...ok > > > > >> * checking Ve is with Ra,St or aspect in rashi/navamsa.....Ve is > > > > >> with St in navamsa....spoils Ve more > > > > >> * checking LoA,LoB,LoC,LoD,LoE in rashi.....Ve,St..Mo,Ju > > > > >> * checking planets with Ra in rashi/navamsa...Sa and Ju.....St is > > > > >> LoC and Ju is loE for 7th house and LoA for 5th house. > > > > >> * checking Ra aspects on house in > > > > >> rashi/navamsa...9,12,2..7,9,11..12th is HoE,2nd is HoA,9th is > > > > >> karak for HoA and HoC for child..7th is HB,11th is HC > > > > >> * checking Ra aspects on planets in rashi and > > > > >> navamsa...Me,Su......Me 6th lord become more malefic and Su LoB > > > > >> for child case > > > > >> * checking for planets with 6th/12th lord in rashi/navamsa..... > > > > >> Ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord.....me is with ve in navamsa > > > > >> spoils ve. > > > > >> * checking for aspects on house in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th > > > > >> lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... > > > > >> * checking for aspects on planets in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th > > > > >> lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... > > > > >> * cheking malefic aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....Ju with 5 points > > > > >> aspects to HoE,Ve with 6 points aspects to HB > > > > >> * cheking benific aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....St with 2 points > > > > >> also LoC aspects to HB,HA and Mo aspects to HB > > > > >> > > > > >> Blessings,compatibility,DBCE,strong house,strong planets: > > > > >> > > > > >> * as usual to be looked will look another time > > > > >> > > > > >> Finding significator: > > > > >> > > > > >> * checking for 2nd lord in rashi......Ve is 2nd lord...Ve antra > > > > >> will bring more pain > > > > >> * looking at 2,7,11 lords...ve and st....ve is with 6 points and > > > > >> st is with 2 points ....left st less points and left ve 2nd lord > > > > >> * looking at 2,7,11 occupents ...me and su...me is with 7 points > > > > >> and su is with 4 points ...left su less points and left me 6th lord > > > > >> * looking at 4,12 occupents...ju and ke(ju/ju)...so ju....ju is > > > > >> with 5 points ....considering ju ...left as in Libra and aspect > > > > >> malefic to HOE > > > > >> * consider Reperesnter for Ra/Ke...Su,Ve/Ju,Ju......left Ra as > > > > >> alresdy left su and ve,left ke as already left ju > > > > >> * looking at 4,12 lords....Mo,ju....considering moon as already > > > > >> left ju....mo may act.........still requires more time for me > > > > >> to finalise > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> ------------------ > > > > >> Regards, > > > > >> Devisingh > > > > >> > > > > >> Ash's Corner@ wrote: > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Dear Devisingh ji, > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Very nice attempt. Please continue your chain of thought. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Try to find the antra that you think might give marriage. Just go > > > > >>> upto antra. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> So first compute the delay and there after start to think over the > > > > >>> best possible period that u think can give the event. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> However, do write your thinking process. That will help one figure > > > > >>> out where you are going away or your confusion. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Well Done. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> *Cheers !!!* > > > > >>> > > > > >>> *Ash -> **http://www.ashtro.ca <http://www.ashtro.ca/>* > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> ** > > > > >>> *On Behalf Of > > > > >>> *devisigh > > > > >>> *Sent:* Thursday November 5, 2009 6:42 AM > > > > >>> *To:* > > > > >>> *Subject:* Re: Re: Practice Chart > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Dear All; > > > > >>> > > > > >>> My first attempt using KAS rules/techniques only > > > > >>> > > > > >>> 7th house marriage: > > > > >>> selecting Mo main Dasha which is with FK Ve for 7th house > > > > >>> Su and Ju seems significator from ws points for 7th house > > > > >>> other planets aspects 7th house i left them > > > > >>> Su is with Me which is 6th load makes Su samdharmi to 6th lord i > > > > >>> left that > > > > >>> Ju having highest points and also LoE > > > > >>> now considering Ju only as strong significator which in RK and NRK > > > > >>> and natural samdharmi to Mo which is LoD. > > > > >>> Ju does not have sight on A/B/C and is LoE can gives results > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Thinking for samdharmi of Ju > > > > >>> in navamsa Ju is with Ra ...makes Ju and Ra samdharmi > > > > >>> Ra can be thought to facilitate results for 7th house matters > > > > >>> .......still this takes time for me to finalize > > > > >>> > > > > >>> ------------------ > > > > >>> Regards, > > > > >>> Devisingh > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> ashsam73 wrote: > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Dear Nikhlesh ji, > > > > >>> > > > > >>> You are correct. It was a typo. It was good that I gave the > > > > >>> degree of all planets so this mistake could be checked right in > > > > >>> the begining. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Thanks Nikhlesh ji. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> The date should be May 24th. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> 24th May 1979 > > > > >>> 4:10 AM > > > > >>> 28N40 > > > > >>> 77E13 > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Sorry about that. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Cheers !!! > > > > >>> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca <http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> <%40>, " nikhlesh > > > > >>> mathur " <nikhleshmathur@> wrote: > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > Sub: 24th Feb 1979, 4.10 am, 28.N.40, 77.E.13 > > > > >>> > Dear Ash ji, > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > You said that Su is 9Ta31 for the above native. But a person > > > > >>> born on the month of Feb cannot have his Sun in Taurus sign. It > > > > >>> should be in Aquarius at this time. > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > If other things are okay then I think the birth date is 24th May. > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > Please confirm. > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > Regards, > > > > >>> > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:47:29 +0530 wrote > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > Add to > > > > >>> > this. > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > 6) When > > > > >>> > can the native face health problems? > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > Cheers !!! > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca <http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > Ash's Corner@ [kas@] > > > > >>> > Monday October 26, 2009 > > > > >>> > 12:18 AM > > > > >>> > To: > > > > >>> > ' > > > > >>> <%27%40>' > > > > >>> > Practice Chart > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > Dear > > > > >>> > Group, > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > This > > > > >>> > lady has been posting charts in various lists for many years now. > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > Here is > > > > >>> > the chart > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > 24th > > > > >>> > Feb 1979 > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > 4:10 AM > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > 28N40 > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > 77E13 > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > From > > > > >>> > what I gather, she had an affair or liked some guy that she > > > > >>> wanted to > > > > >>> > marry. I am not clear from her posts > > > > >>> > that if she married the same guy or not. > > > > >>> > Her parents were looking out for some proposals for her. > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > If this > > > > >>> > chart came blindly to you, can you predict the following. > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > 1) > > > > >>> > Marriage > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > 2) > > > > >>> > Child birth > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > 3) > > > > >>> > Marital Relations overall > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > 4) > > > > >>> > She has been complaining that relations are bad after marriage and > > > > >>> > asked if she should go for divorce. > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > 5) > > > > >>> > Why she had affair or what are the yogs for that in this chart. > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > Planet > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > Degrees > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > As > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > 15 Ar 55 > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > Su > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > 9 Ta 31 > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > Mo > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > 13 Ar 48 > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > Ma > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > 13 Ar 8 > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > Me > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > 2 Ta 15 > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > Ju > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > 11 Cn 16 > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > Ve > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > 14 Ar 30 > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > Sa > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > 14 Le 35 > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > Ra > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > 20 Le 59 > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > Ke > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > 20 Aq 59 > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > Cheers !!! > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca <http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 17, 2009 Dear Ash Ji, Thank you for the time you have taken to first put together the write up/post on Guru and second this post. I understand you are very busy and I am grateful/fortunate to have you and dear Anup Ji,Manu Ji, Prabha Ji, Nikhlesh Ji, Hussein Ji, Bella Ji the " " group to help me and guide me to learn and understand KAS. When I joined the group at the end of January I was taking classes, which finished in August. I will admit I spent whatever time I could with my nose pressed to my screen pouring through the archives as best I could. It is not until recently that I came out to participate in the quiz's that have been posted in the last month. You encourage discussion and I believe this is monumental in the process of learning, but is only part of the learning process. As you have mentioned the archives are there and that is the foundation for any of us and actually is very enlightening. You have indeed, from what I have been able to touch upon, asked so many of the questions I have had in the archives and I am learning from everyone's input in past and present. The quiz that you posted earlier and the practice chart that we have been discussing on last few weeks the churning between us with everything that has been posted is something learned. For me everybody is a senior member and I can only learn from all and give my attempts/perspective/interpretations. I am a student and have much, much to learn. I hope by my questioning I am not conveying that I only want free answer's that is not my intention or the reason I am in this group. Moreover, I do not feel if a true student just asking for answer can have the capacity to really learn any material. I do use the search and read the posts in order they are posted, and I thank goodness for this ability. I am doing my best to take in and understand the basics. I may ask a question that may possibly have been asked in the archives, but there may be reasons that one cannot go through the archives as one wishes due to xyz problems. Therefore, discussions are very important I believe. You asked me to write up my thoughts and I did so. It is not that I am only interested in Guru delay any delay is an important factor to understand as this groups focus is on timing. As your questions to me on Guru showed that I have much to learn in this arena and am working on the learning/understanding and will post those answers again in some time and hope to give you the answer that you will not find fault in. From next week I will be out for some time and will have very limited access to the internet, I will not be able to continue my studies of the archives, but if there is a discussion going on in the group I should hope to be a part of it. With Kind Regards, Shalini , " ashsam73 " <kas wrote: > > Dear Shalini ji, > > All your questions that you have asked have been replied by me at some point or the other. I agree, that it might not be easy to find all my mails as the archives is growing, but then with the new search feature it might make it a tad more simplified. > > More than anything, else, I would like u to practice. I might be available to reply to all your queries, as life is getting me very busy now a days, then in that case what to do? > > Here I will give you some guidance that I have personally gone though. I used to ask all kinds of questions to Guru ji, and you can see that in the archives, and I am sure everyone has seen that. That is normal. That time, the archives had only so much information and Guru ji patiently answered and still does answer all my questions. There came one time, when, I look back now, I asked him some question and he advised me to practice. There was some concept that somehow was a hurdle and I kept getting stuck there, and I see that in your questions that you keep getting stuck on trying to judge the delay of Jupiter or when u get stuck in trying to find if a particular antra can give result or you are not following the steps corectly or maybe overlooking something and then u get stuck up and then want an answer. > > Again, I understand that, I understand where you are coming from, as I have personally walked down that same path. Likewise, if you see Anup ji, or Prabha ji or just for that matter Nikhlesh ji, Ramesh ji etc etc, these names I am taking as I am seeing their progress from a long time by their inputs on the list oh and Hussein ji as well. All of them are taking charts and practicing. > > So here are some steps that you can follow as a guide. > > 1) Take charts, dont assume any chart as accurate, but find charts with event dates given. > 2) Do not look at the events. You can get a host of charts from the archives with given events. > 3) Cast the chart, take a print out of the same. > 4) Clear your mind of all worries, stress, or anything else. > 5) With a cool mind just focus on the chart. Just see the chart and note down key points some observatations. > 6) Like of example observatons DBCE points, what do u see the nature of the person is, what is the lagna points, does the native has blessings, any zeroes, any 4:10 or any 4:10 with opposition or some other salient points that u can see like Ve in krittika, Ju in libra etc etc etc.. > 7) Then focus on the question and then note down key poitns for that area of study. Say u are studing marriage then check the laws for marriage, first check if marriage is promised, then get a judge on quality, the lagna and 7th etc etc relations, study karak and rk, study 0's, study from desh, kaal, paatra, study delay etc etc etc. > 8) Then start to narrow down to timing. For that first come to antra. Try to judge if that antra can give marriage, or if there are any overriding principles for moderating or removing delays like blessings of ju aspect on sa etc etc. > 9) Then note down your doubts, if u are not certain of the antra. > 10) Move to the next antra if u are not sure and note down YOUR REASONS. This is for you only. So that u can keep a trail of your questions and where u are getting stuck. > 11) Then solve other events like job, child birth etc etc as per the chart u have taken. > 12) Check the answre and then check your analysis and then u will get where if u are correct of where have u made mistake. > 13) Note down your mistake along with your analysis and where u got stuck. > 14) Remember this and solve next chart. > > If u solve 1000's of charts in due course of time, and each time remember where u have made mistakes, then with experience will come intution. > > You will also get the variations in some cases where Ju is causing delay where Sa is causing or delay is more than 36 years or 42 years in special cases so like that. > > There is a huge repository of charts with events solved in the archives, make us of it. > > Then when someone asks questiosn like wil ju cause delay and such and such is the scenario, then u will know the answer from you strong knowledge base and your intution will guide u. > > > As the adage goes > > " Give a fish and he eats for a day, teahc him to fish and he eats for a life time " > > Hope that helps, > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > , " shalini " <shalini3004@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ash Ji and Group, > > > > Considering Lesson 36 these are my thoughts please correct me where I am straying off track. As per scenario 5 it states, " if guru is LoA or LoB it must be malefic for the houses it owns; less than 4 bindus. " > > > > This scenario takes place in her D-9 chart with 4:13 am time. If we consider Guru's bindus for Pisces in SAV we find that Guru gives 2 > > > > (for SAV totals in D-1,D-9 Charts do we consider D-9 chart SAV??) > > > > bindus, thus it would be malefic and there would be Guru delay I believe. Guru delay is considered over when it aspects 7H, 7L or crosses it's natal position and can be calculated only after Saturn delay is over. When Saturn delay is over Guru is in Virgo does not aspect 7h or 7L, then moves to HB does aspect 7L in lagna but I think because it is in HB in Libra the delay is not over, in scorpio also it does not aspect 7H, 7L. Then in Sagittarius it aspects 7L Venus then this should end Guru delay. > > Look forward to feedback. > > > > With Kind Regards, > > > > Shalini > > > > , " ashsam73 " <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Shalini ji, > > > > > > What do you think? Share your thoughts in detail and discuss. That is why this group is created to begin with so that discussion of such nature can be held and through discussion collective knowledge will grow. > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > , " shalini " <shalini3004@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ash Ji and Group, > > > > > > > > If we change the time to 3:13am as I believe you have mentioned in earlier post, this gives Virgo as Lagna in D-9 chart where now Guru will be in second house (karaka house, HA) and is lord of HB, this would then give Guru delay, would this be correct? > > > > > > > > With Kind Regards, > > > > > > > > Shalini > > > > > > > > , devisigh <devisingh.rajput@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > Finally i am able to convince myself and fixed antra as below > > > > > > > > > > Selection of Ra/Ju antra is somewhat difficult as i have strong > > > > > arguments for both side though i will go with Ju and considering Ra for > > > > > affair before marriage > > > > > > > > > > 1) Marriage > > > > > Mo-Ju antra will bring marriage > > > > > > > > > > 2) Child birth > > > > > Mo-St antra brings child birth > > > > > ----Ve is strong significator from ws points > > > > > ----St is natural samdharmi to Ve > > > > > ----St is in nakshatra of Ve and also cojoin Ve in navamsa > > > > > ----St is LoE for 5th house can give child birth > > > > > > > > > > 3) Marital Relations overall > > > > > ----karak Ve,Ju not good and marital relations seems not good > > > > > ----except Ve all are having good points for 7th house not Bad > > > > > > > > > > 4) She has been complaining that relations are bad after marriage > > > > > and asked if she should go for divorce. > > > > > ----if she asked for divorce (which is obvious as karak are not good) > > > > > then i suggest should not go for divorce...(looking DBCE and ws points > > > > > for 7th house) > > > > > > > > > > 5) Why she had affair or what are the yogs for that in this chart. > > > > > --there is delay in marriage and by considering 12th house (foreign > > > > > relations) Ve is NK,FK for this and having less points for 12th > > > > > --Mo-Ra(Venus) antra before marriage indicate that Ra being in 5th house > > > > > can act as LoE and Eager to accoplish this. > > > > > --Ve cojoin Ma and aspected by Ra in rashi > > > > > --Ve in navamsa of Su and cojoin St in navamsa > > > > > > > > > > 6) Health > > > > > ----Su is 12th lord for 6th house concern and placed in second house > > > > > that will increase bad deed of this Su and this can gives health issues > > > > > for native...in Ws Su has more then 11 points > > > > > ----Me is strong significator from WS for 6th and 1st house and also it > > > > > is LoD for 6th house and LoE for First house events > > > > > ----Me being nakshatra of Su ...Me is samdharmi of Su and also LoB for > > > > > 6th house with more then 5 points..... > > > > > ----Me antra diffinately brings some health issues for native > > > > > > > > > > ------------------ > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Devisingh > > > > > > > > > > devisigh wrote: > > > > > > Dear All; > > > > > > > > > > > > Some more thoughts to fix antra > > > > > > > > > > > > St full delay but st have moved 15 degree so considering 27.5-1.3=26.3 > > > > > > year initial value > > > > > > Ju aspects Hb in navamsa but is is in libra with rahu in navamsa and > > > > > > in nakshtra of St so it can not check to saturn so full delay no help > > > > > > from Ju to reduce delay as staus of Ju is not good > > > > > > > > > > > > no zero in SAV so no addition in delay > > > > > > Blessing in navamsa but can not help to reduce delay > > > > > > St is with Ra in rashi so more affilicted add delay > > > > > > Mo aspected by Ra in rashi and St cojoin in navamsa ,As lumanaries are > > > > > > aspected so that will add delay > > > > > > > > > > > > Main dasha lord Mo is OK as karka to give 7th house events > > > > > > > > > > > > Mo-Mo > > > > > > Mo LoD and Natural Samdharmi to Ju can give event > > > > > > > > > > > > But I think this would not be case as some what delay have to be added > > > > > > > > > > > > Mo-Ma > > > > > > Ju and Ma both in cancer one in rasi and another in navamsa makes them > > > > > > samdharmi > > > > > > Ju and Ma both are natural samdharmi > > > > > > Ju and Ma 4:10 in rashi/navamsa > > > > > > Ju LoE and high point So Event can be in 3rd sector of it.-----LEFT MA > > > > > > IT CAN NOT ACT NOT REQUIRED > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mo-Ra > > > > > > Ra represnts Su/Ve....considering more like Ve NK FK.... and cojoin Ju > > > > > > in navamsa so samdahrmi to Ju > > > > > > > > > > > > so Event can be in 3rd sector of it.......seems not wise choice still > > > > > > to me-----AFFAIR SEEMS MORE LOGICAL IN THIS TIME > > > > > > > > > > > > Mo-Ju > > > > > > Ju Can give Event in 3rd Sector on it > > > > > > > > > > > > will come up with more thought as gets educated to this system > > > > > > ------------------ > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Devisingh > > > > > > > > > > > > devisigh wrote: > > > > > >> Dear Ash ji, > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Namaskar > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Sincere thanks for your words attitude intension and time. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> I am trying my all time what i can collect to study this system. > > > > > >> I guess this can takes time may be 3year (less points till that time > > > > > >> also indicate hardwork and busy for me) Will continue my > > > > > >> attempt/doubts hope for comments from moderators for same. > > > > > >> I am enjoying achieves thanks to Krushna,sanjay,Donna,Peter,Magritta > > > > > >> and all very nice considering old time and situation. > > > > > >> hope that will helps me to understand and utilize system and finally > > > > > >> to absorb root or essence of system so other all system and vedic > > > > > >> text can be clarified with same so better results can be obtained > > > > > >> related to timing of events. > > > > > >> Everybody is trying/pushing here only to help others using there own > > > > > >> approach It is really appreciated GOD WILL HELP THEM WHO HELPED OTHERS > > > > > >> > > > > > >> *Please find below is thought process/approach: > > > > > >> *I am taking acceptance that person is not mentally retired and birth > > > > > >> details are correct no rectification required > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Quality of 7th house: > > > > > >> > > > > > >> * checking Ju in Libra in rashi/navamsa....navamsa has that...it > > > > > >> is RK,NRK and LoE..seems not good for marriage. > > > > > >> * checking Ve nakshatra in rashi...bharni...ok > > > > > >> * checking Su and Ve distance in rashi...less then 43...ok > > > > > >> * checking Ve is with Ra,St or aspect in rashi/navamsa.....Ve is > > > > > >> with St in navamsa....spoils Ve more > > > > > >> * checking LoA,LoB,LoC,LoD,LoE in rashi.....Ve,St..Mo,Ju > > > > > >> * checking planets with Ra in rashi/navamsa...Sa and Ju.....St is > > > > > >> LoC and Ju is loE for 7th house and LoA for 5th house. > > > > > >> * checking Ra aspects on house in > > > > > >> rashi/navamsa...9,12,2..7,9,11..12th is HoE,2nd is HoA,9th is > > > > > >> karak for HoA and HoC for child..7th is HB,11th is HC > > > > > >> * checking Ra aspects on planets in rashi and > > > > > >> navamsa...Me,Su......Me 6th lord become more malefic and Su LoB > > > > > >> for child case > > > > > >> * checking for planets with 6th/12th lord in rashi/navamsa..... > > > > > >> Ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord.....me is with ve in navamsa > > > > > >> spoils ve. > > > > > >> * checking for aspects on house in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th > > > > > >> lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... > > > > > >> * checking for aspects on planets in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th > > > > > >> lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... > > > > > >> * cheking malefic aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....Ju with 5 points > > > > > >> aspects to HoE,Ve with 6 points aspects to HB > > > > > >> * cheking benific aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....St with 2 points > > > > > >> also LoC aspects to HB,HA and Mo aspects to HB > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Blessings,compatibility,DBCE,strong house,strong planets: > > > > > >> > > > > > >> * as usual to be looked will look another time > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Finding significator: > > > > > >> > > > > > >> * checking for 2nd lord in rashi......Ve is 2nd lord...Ve antra > > > > > >> will bring more pain > > > > > >> * looking at 2,7,11 lords...ve and st....ve is with 6 points and > > > > > >> st is with 2 points ....left st less points and left ve 2nd lord > > > > > >> * looking at 2,7,11 occupents ...me and su...me is with 7 points > > > > > >> and su is with 4 points ...left su less points and left me 6th lord > > > > > >> * looking at 4,12 occupents...ju and ke(ju/ju)...so ju....ju is > > > > > >> with 5 points ....considering ju ...left as in Libra and aspect > > > > > >> malefic to HOE > > > > > >> * consider Reperesnter for Ra/Ke...Su,Ve/Ju,Ju......left Ra as > > > > > >> alresdy left su and ve,left ke as already left ju > > > > > >> * looking at 4,12 lords....Mo,ju....considering moon as already > > > > > >> left ju....mo may act.........still requires more time for me > > > > > >> to finalise > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> ------------------ > > > > > >> Regards, > > > > > >> Devisingh > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Ash's Corner@ wrote: > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Dear Devisingh ji, > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Very nice attempt. Please continue your chain of thought. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Try to find the antra that you think might give marriage. Just go > > > > > >>> upto antra. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> So first compute the delay and there after start to think over the > > > > > >>> best possible period that u think can give the event. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> However, do write your thinking process. That will help one figure > > > > > >>> out where you are going away or your confusion. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Well Done. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> *Cheers !!!* > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> *Ash -> **http://www.ashtro.ca <http://www.ashtro.ca/>* > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> ** > > > > > >>> *On Behalf Of > > > > > >>> *devisigh > > > > > >>> *Sent:* Thursday November 5, 2009 6:42 AM > > > > > >>> *To:* > > > > > >>> *Subject:* Re: Re: Practice Chart > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Dear All; > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> My first attempt using KAS rules/techniques only > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> 7th house marriage: > > > > > >>> selecting Mo main Dasha which is with FK Ve for 7th house > > > > > >>> Su and Ju seems significator from ws points for 7th house > > > > > >>> other planets aspects 7th house i left them > > > > > >>> Su is with Me which is 6th load makes Su samdharmi to 6th lord i > > > > > >>> left that > > > > > >>> Ju having highest points and also LoE > > > > > >>> now considering Ju only as strong significator which in RK and NRK > > > > > >>> and natural samdharmi to Mo which is LoD. > > > > > >>> Ju does not have sight on A/B/C and is LoE can gives results > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Thinking for samdharmi of Ju > > > > > >>> in navamsa Ju is with Ra ...makes Ju and Ra samdharmi > > > > > >>> Ra can be thought to facilitate results for 7th house matters > > > > > >>> .......still this takes time for me to finalize > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> ------------------ > > > > > >>> Regards, > > > > > >>> Devisingh > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> ashsam73 wrote: > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Dear Nikhlesh ji, > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> You are correct. It was a typo. It was good that I gave the > > > > > >>> degree of all planets so this mistake could be checked right in > > > > > >>> the begining. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Thanks Nikhlesh ji. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> The date should be May 24th. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> 24th May 1979 > > > > > >>> 4:10 AM > > > > > >>> 28N40 > > > > > >>> 77E13 > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Sorry about that. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Cheers !!! > > > > > >>> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca <http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> <%40>, " nikhlesh > > > > > >>> mathur " <nikhleshmathur@> wrote: > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > Sub: 24th Feb 1979, 4.10 am, 28.N.40, 77.E.13 > > > > > >>> > Dear Ash ji, > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > You said that Su is 9Ta31 for the above native. But a person > > > > > >>> born on the month of Feb cannot have his Sun in Taurus sign. It > > > > > >>> should be in Aquarius at this time. > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > If other things are okay then I think the birth date is 24th May. > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > Please confirm. > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > Regards, > > > > > >>> > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:47:29 +0530 wrote > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > Add to > > > > > >>> > this. > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > 6) When > > > > > >>> > can the native face health problems? > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > Cheers !!! > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca <http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > Ash's Corner@ [kas@] > > > > > >>> > Monday October 26, 2009 > > > > > >>> > 12:18 AM > > > > > >>> > To: > > > > > >>> > ' > > > > > >>> <%27%40>' > > > > > >>> > Practice Chart > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > Dear > > > > > >>> > Group, > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > This > > > > > >>> > lady has been posting charts in various lists for many years now. > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > Here is > > > > > >>> > the chart > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > 24th > > > > > >>> > Feb 1979 > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > 4:10 AM > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > 28N40 > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > 77E13 > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > From > > > > > >>> > what I gather, she had an affair or liked some guy that she > > > > > >>> wanted to > > > > > >>> > marry. I am not clear from her posts > > > > > >>> > that if she married the same guy or not. > > > > > >>> > Her parents were looking out for some proposals for her. > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > If this > > > > > >>> > chart came blindly to you, can you predict the following. > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > 1) > > > > > >>> > Marriage > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > 2) > > > > > >>> > Child birth > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > 3) > > > > > >>> > Marital Relations overall > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > 4) > > > > > >>> > She has been complaining that relations are bad after marriage and > > > > > >>> > asked if she should go for divorce. > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > 5) > > > > > >>> > Why she had affair or what are the yogs for that in this chart. > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > Planet > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > Degrees > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > As > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > 15 Ar 55 > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > Su > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > 9 Ta 31 > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > Mo > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > 13 Ar 48 > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > Ma > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > 13 Ar 8 > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > Me > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > 2 Ta 15 > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > Ju > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > 11 Cn 16 > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > Ve > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > 14 Ar 30 > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > Sa > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > 14 Le 35 > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > Ra > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > 20 Le 59 > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > Ke > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > 20 Aq 59 > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > Cheers !!! > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca <http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 18, 2009 Dear Anup ji and All participating members in the learning exercise: We had waited for Hussein ji to get back and he came back and made his attemps. Now, Shalini ji is going to get busy or might be away with limited access for email and has taken good efforts during the quiz. Please give your opinions, if there is any further scope or attempts or revisions for any answers? If you all think that this thread has now come to its natural end, then we can give the answer so everyone can go back and study their own attempts and then DISCUSS the answers. If you all feel that you all want a bit more time to re-visit then please advise? Anup ji, what is your opinion? Is it now time to give the answer? Please advise me. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , " shalini " <shalini3004 wrote: > > Dear Ash Ji, > > Thank you for the time you have taken to first put together the write up/post on Guru and second this post. I understand you are very busy and I am grateful/fortunate to have you > and dear Anup Ji,Manu Ji, Prabha Ji, Nikhlesh Ji, Hussein Ji, Bella Ji the " " group to help me and guide me to learn and understand KAS. When I joined the group at the end of January I was taking classes, which finished in August. I will admit I spent whatever time I could with my nose pressed to my screen pouring through the archives as best I could. It is not until recently that I came out to participate in the quiz's that have been posted in the last month. You encourage discussion and I believe this is monumental in the process of learning, but is only part of the learning process. As you have mentioned the archives are there and that is the foundation for any of us and actually is very enlightening. You have indeed, from what I have been able to touch upon, asked so many of the questions I have had in the archives and I am learning from everyone's input in past and present. > The quiz that you posted earlier and the practice chart that we have been discussing on last few weeks the churning between us with everything that has been posted is something learned. For me everybody is a senior member and I can only learn from all and give my attempts/perspective/interpretations. I am a student and have much, much to learn. I hope by my questioning I am not conveying that I only want free answer's that is not my intention or the reason I am in this group. Moreover, I do not feel if a true student just asking for answer can have the capacity to really learn any material. > I do use the search and read the posts in order they are posted, and I thank goodness for this ability. I am doing my best to take in and understand the basics. I may ask a question that may possibly have been asked in the archives, but there may be reasons that one cannot go through the archives as one wishes due to xyz problems. Therefore, discussions are very important I believe. > You asked me to write up my thoughts and I did so. It is not that I am only interested in Guru delay any delay is an important factor to understand as this groups focus is on timing. As your questions to me on Guru showed that I have much to learn in this arena and am working on the learning/understanding and will post those answers again in some time and hope to give you the answer that you will not find fault in. > From next week I will be out for some time and will have very limited access to the internet, I will not be able to continue my studies of the archives, but if there is a discussion going on in the group I should hope to be a part of it. > > With Kind Regards, > > Shalini > > , " ashsam73 " <kas@> wrote: > > > > Dear Shalini ji, > > > > All your questions that you have asked have been replied by me at some point or the other. I agree, that it might not be easy to find all my mails as the archives is growing, but then with the new search feature it might make it a tad more simplified. > > > > More than anything, else, I would like u to practice. I might be available to reply to all your queries, as life is getting me very busy now a days, then in that case what to do? > > > > Here I will give you some guidance that I have personally gone though. I used to ask all kinds of questions to Guru ji, and you can see that in the archives, and I am sure everyone has seen that. That is normal. That time, the archives had only so much information and Guru ji patiently answered and still does answer all my questions. There came one time, when, I look back now, I asked him some question and he advised me to practice. There was some concept that somehow was a hurdle and I kept getting stuck there, and I see that in your questions that you keep getting stuck on trying to judge the delay of Jupiter or when u get stuck in trying to find if a particular antra can give result or you are not following the steps corectly or maybe overlooking something and then u get stuck up and then want an answer. > > > > Again, I understand that, I understand where you are coming from, as I have personally walked down that same path. Likewise, if you see Anup ji, or Prabha ji or just for that matter Nikhlesh ji, Ramesh ji etc etc, these names I am taking as I am seeing their progress from a long time by their inputs on the list oh and Hussein ji as well. All of them are taking charts and practicing. > > > > So here are some steps that you can follow as a guide. > > > > 1) Take charts, dont assume any chart as accurate, but find charts with event dates given. > > 2) Do not look at the events. You can get a host of charts from the archives with given events. > > 3) Cast the chart, take a print out of the same. > > 4) Clear your mind of all worries, stress, or anything else. > > 5) With a cool mind just focus on the chart. Just see the chart and note down key points some observatations. > > 6) Like of example observatons DBCE points, what do u see the nature of the person is, what is the lagna points, does the native has blessings, any zeroes, any 4:10 or any 4:10 with opposition or some other salient points that u can see like Ve in krittika, Ju in libra etc etc etc.. > > 7) Then focus on the question and then note down key poitns for that area of study. Say u are studing marriage then check the laws for marriage, first check if marriage is promised, then get a judge on quality, the lagna and 7th etc etc relations, study karak and rk, study 0's, study from desh, kaal, paatra, study delay etc etc etc. > > 8) Then start to narrow down to timing. For that first come to antra. Try to judge if that antra can give marriage, or if there are any overriding principles for moderating or removing delays like blessings of ju aspect on sa etc etc. > > 9) Then note down your doubts, if u are not certain of the antra. > > 10) Move to the next antra if u are not sure and note down YOUR REASONS. This is for you only. So that u can keep a trail of your questions and where u are getting stuck. > > 11) Then solve other events like job, child birth etc etc as per the chart u have taken. > > 12) Check the answre and then check your analysis and then u will get where if u are correct of where have u made mistake. > > 13) Note down your mistake along with your analysis and where u got stuck. > > 14) Remember this and solve next chart. > > > > If u solve 1000's of charts in due course of time, and each time remember where u have made mistakes, then with experience will come intution. > > > > You will also get the variations in some cases where Ju is causing delay where Sa is causing or delay is more than 36 years or 42 years in special cases so like that. > > > > There is a huge repository of charts with events solved in the archives, make us of it. > > > > Then when someone asks questiosn like wil ju cause delay and such and such is the scenario, then u will know the answer from you strong knowledge base and your intution will guide u. > > > > > > As the adage goes > > > > " Give a fish and he eats for a day, teahc him to fish and he eats for a life time " > > > > Hope that helps, > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > , " shalini " <shalini3004@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ash Ji and Group, > > > > > > Considering Lesson 36 these are my thoughts please correct me where I am straying off track. As per scenario 5 it states, " if guru is LoA or LoB it must be malefic for the houses it owns; less than 4 bindus. " > > > > > > This scenario takes place in her D-9 chart with 4:13 am time. If we consider Guru's bindus for Pisces in SAV we find that Guru gives 2 > > > > > > (for SAV totals in D-1,D-9 Charts do we consider D-9 chart SAV??) > > > > > > bindus, thus it would be malefic and there would be Guru delay I believe. Guru delay is considered over when it aspects 7H, 7L or crosses it's natal position and can be calculated only after Saturn delay is over. When Saturn delay is over Guru is in Virgo does not aspect 7h or 7L, then moves to HB does aspect 7L in lagna but I think because it is in HB in Libra the delay is not over, in scorpio also it does not aspect 7H, 7L. Then in Sagittarius it aspects 7L Venus then this should end Guru delay. > > > Look forward to feedback. > > > > > > With Kind Regards, > > > > > > Shalini > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Shalini ji, > > > > > > > > What do you think? Share your thoughts in detail and discuss. That is why this group is created to begin with so that discussion of such nature can be held and through discussion collective knowledge will grow. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > , " shalini " <shalini3004@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash Ji and Group, > > > > > > > > > > If we change the time to 3:13am as I believe you have mentioned in earlier post, this gives Virgo as Lagna in D-9 chart where now Guru will be in second house (karaka house, HA) and is lord of HB, this would then give Guru delay, would this be correct? > > > > > > > > > > With Kind Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Shalini > > > > > > > > > > , devisigh <devisingh.rajput@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > > > Finally i am able to convince myself and fixed antra as below > > > > > > > > > > > > Selection of Ra/Ju antra is somewhat difficult as i have strong > > > > > > arguments for both side though i will go with Ju and considering Ra for > > > > > > affair before marriage > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Marriage > > > > > > Mo-Ju antra will bring marriage > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) Child birth > > > > > > Mo-St antra brings child birth > > > > > > ----Ve is strong significator from ws points > > > > > > ----St is natural samdharmi to Ve > > > > > > ----St is in nakshatra of Ve and also cojoin Ve in navamsa > > > > > > ----St is LoE for 5th house can give child birth > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) Marital Relations overall > > > > > > ----karak Ve,Ju not good and marital relations seems not good > > > > > > ----except Ve all are having good points for 7th house not Bad > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) She has been complaining that relations are bad after marriage > > > > > > and asked if she should go for divorce. > > > > > > ----if she asked for divorce (which is obvious as karak are not good) > > > > > > then i suggest should not go for divorce...(looking DBCE and ws points > > > > > > for 7th house) > > > > > > > > > > > > 5) Why she had affair or what are the yogs for that in this chart. > > > > > > --there is delay in marriage and by considering 12th house (foreign > > > > > > relations) Ve is NK,FK for this and having less points for 12th > > > > > > --Mo-Ra(Venus) antra before marriage indicate that Ra being in 5th house > > > > > > can act as LoE and Eager to accoplish this. > > > > > > --Ve cojoin Ma and aspected by Ra in rashi > > > > > > --Ve in navamsa of Su and cojoin St in navamsa > > > > > > > > > > > > 6) Health > > > > > > ----Su is 12th lord for 6th house concern and placed in second house > > > > > > that will increase bad deed of this Su and this can gives health issues > > > > > > for native...in Ws Su has more then 11 points > > > > > > ----Me is strong significator from WS for 6th and 1st house and also it > > > > > > is LoD for 6th house and LoE for First house events > > > > > > ----Me being nakshatra of Su ...Me is samdharmi of Su and also LoB for > > > > > > 6th house with more then 5 points..... > > > > > > ----Me antra diffinately brings some health issues for native > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------ > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Devisingh > > > > > > > > > > > > devisigh wrote: > > > > > > > Dear All; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some more thoughts to fix antra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > St full delay but st have moved 15 degree so considering 27.5-1.3=26.3 > > > > > > > year initial value > > > > > > > Ju aspects Hb in navamsa but is is in libra with rahu in navamsa and > > > > > > > in nakshtra of St so it can not check to saturn so full delay no help > > > > > > > from Ju to reduce delay as staus of Ju is not good > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no zero in SAV so no addition in delay > > > > > > > Blessing in navamsa but can not help to reduce delay > > > > > > > St is with Ra in rashi so more affilicted add delay > > > > > > > Mo aspected by Ra in rashi and St cojoin in navamsa ,As lumanaries are > > > > > > > aspected so that will add delay > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Main dasha lord Mo is OK as karka to give 7th house events > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mo-Mo > > > > > > > Mo LoD and Natural Samdharmi to Ju can give event > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I think this would not be case as some what delay have to be added > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mo-Ma > > > > > > > Ju and Ma both in cancer one in rasi and another in navamsa makes them > > > > > > > samdharmi > > > > > > > Ju and Ma both are natural samdharmi > > > > > > > Ju and Ma 4:10 in rashi/navamsa > > > > > > > Ju LoE and high point So Event can be in 3rd sector of it.-----LEFT MA > > > > > > > IT CAN NOT ACT NOT REQUIRED > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mo-Ra > > > > > > > Ra represnts Su/Ve....considering more like Ve NK FK.... and cojoin Ju > > > > > > > in navamsa so samdahrmi to Ju > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so Event can be in 3rd sector of it.......seems not wise choice still > > > > > > > to me-----AFFAIR SEEMS MORE LOGICAL IN THIS TIME > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mo-Ju > > > > > > > Ju Can give Event in 3rd Sector on it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will come up with more thought as gets educated to this system > > > > > > > ------------------ > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Devisingh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > devisigh wrote: > > > > > > >> Dear Ash ji, > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Namaskar > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Sincere thanks for your words attitude intension and time. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> I am trying my all time what i can collect to study this system. > > > > > > >> I guess this can takes time may be 3year (less points till that time > > > > > > >> also indicate hardwork and busy for me) Will continue my > > > > > > >> attempt/doubts hope for comments from moderators for same. > > > > > > >> I am enjoying achieves thanks to Krushna,sanjay,Donna,Peter,Magritta > > > > > > >> and all very nice considering old time and situation. > > > > > > >> hope that will helps me to understand and utilize system and finally > > > > > > >> to absorb root or essence of system so other all system and vedic > > > > > > >> text can be clarified with same so better results can be obtained > > > > > > >> related to timing of events. > > > > > > >> Everybody is trying/pushing here only to help others using there own > > > > > > >> approach It is really appreciated GOD WILL HELP THEM WHO HELPED OTHERS > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> *Please find below is thought process/approach: > > > > > > >> *I am taking acceptance that person is not mentally retired and birth > > > > > > >> details are correct no rectification required > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Quality of 7th house: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> * checking Ju in Libra in rashi/navamsa....navamsa has that...it > > > > > > >> is RK,NRK and LoE..seems not good for marriage. > > > > > > >> * checking Ve nakshatra in rashi...bharni...ok > > > > > > >> * checking Su and Ve distance in rashi...less then 43...ok > > > > > > >> * checking Ve is with Ra,St or aspect in rashi/navamsa.....Ve is > > > > > > >> with St in navamsa....spoils Ve more > > > > > > >> * checking LoA,LoB,LoC,LoD,LoE in rashi.....Ve,St..Mo,Ju > > > > > > >> * checking planets with Ra in rashi/navamsa...Sa and Ju.....St is > > > > > > >> LoC and Ju is loE for 7th house and LoA for 5th house. > > > > > > >> * checking Ra aspects on house in > > > > > > >> rashi/navamsa...9,12,2..7,9,11..12th is HoE,2nd is HoA,9th is > > > > > > >> karak for HoA and HoC for child..7th is HB,11th is HC > > > > > > >> * checking Ra aspects on planets in rashi and > > > > > > >> navamsa...Me,Su......Me 6th lord become more malefic and Su LoB > > > > > > >> for child case > > > > > > >> * checking for planets with 6th/12th lord in rashi/navamsa..... > > > > > > >> Ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord.....me is with ve in navamsa > > > > > > >> spoils ve. > > > > > > >> * checking for aspects on house in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th > > > > > > >> lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... > > > > > > >> * checking for aspects on planets in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th > > > > > > >> lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... > > > > > > >> * cheking malefic aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....Ju with 5 points > > > > > > >> aspects to HoE,Ve with 6 points aspects to HB > > > > > > >> * cheking benific aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....St with 2 points > > > > > > >> also LoC aspects to HB,HA and Mo aspects to HB > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Blessings,compatibility,DBCE,strong house,strong planets: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> * as usual to be looked will look another time > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Finding significator: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> * checking for 2nd lord in rashi......Ve is 2nd lord...Ve antra > > > > > > >> will bring more pain > > > > > > >> * looking at 2,7,11 lords...ve and st....ve is with 6 points and > > > > > > >> st is with 2 points ....left st less points and left ve 2nd lord > > > > > > >> * looking at 2,7,11 occupents ...me and su...me is with 7 points > > > > > > >> and su is with 4 points ...left su less points and left me 6th lord > > > > > > >> * looking at 4,12 occupents...ju and ke(ju/ju)...so ju....ju is > > > > > > >> with 5 points ....considering ju ...left as in Libra and aspect > > > > > > >> malefic to HOE > > > > > > >> * consider Reperesnter for Ra/Ke...Su,Ve/Ju,Ju......left Ra as > > > > > > >> alresdy left su and ve,left ke as already left ju > > > > > > >> * looking at 4,12 lords....Mo,ju....considering moon as already > > > > > > >> left ju....mo may act.........still requires more time for me > > > > > > >> to finalise > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> ------------------ > > > > > > >> Regards, > > > > > > >> Devisingh > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Ash's Corner@ wrote: > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Dear Devisingh ji, > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Very nice attempt. Please continue your chain of thought. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Try to find the antra that you think might give marriage. Just go > > > > > > >>> upto antra. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> So first compute the delay and there after start to think over the > > > > > > >>> best possible period that u think can give the event. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> However, do write your thinking process. That will help one figure > > > > > > >>> out where you are going away or your confusion. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Well Done. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> *Cheers !!!* > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> *Ash -> **http://www.ashtro.ca <http://www.ashtro.ca/>* > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> ** > > > > > > >>> *On Behalf Of > > > > > > >>> *devisigh > > > > > > >>> *Sent:* Thursday November 5, 2009 6:42 AM > > > > > > >>> *To:* > > > > > > >>> *Subject:* Re: Re: Practice Chart > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Dear All; > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> My first attempt using KAS rules/techniques only > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> 7th house marriage: > > > > > > >>> selecting Mo main Dasha which is with FK Ve for 7th house > > > > > > >>> Su and Ju seems significator from ws points for 7th house > > > > > > >>> other planets aspects 7th house i left them > > > > > > >>> Su is with Me which is 6th load makes Su samdharmi to 6th lord i > > > > > > >>> left that > > > > > > >>> Ju having highest points and also LoE > > > > > > >>> now considering Ju only as strong significator which in RK and NRK > > > > > > >>> and natural samdharmi to Mo which is LoD. > > > > > > >>> Ju does not have sight on A/B/C and is LoE can gives results > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Thinking for samdharmi of Ju > > > > > > >>> in navamsa Ju is with Ra ...makes Ju and Ra samdharmi > > > > > > >>> Ra can be thought to facilitate results for 7th house matters > > > > > > >>> .......still this takes time for me to finalize > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> ------------------ > > > > > > >>> Regards, > > > > > > >>> Devisingh > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> ashsam73 wrote: > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Dear Nikhlesh ji, > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> You are correct. It was a typo. It was good that I gave the > > > > > > >>> degree of all planets so this mistake could be checked right in > > > > > > >>> the begining. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Thanks Nikhlesh ji. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> The date should be May 24th. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> 24th May 1979 > > > > > > >>> 4:10 AM > > > > > > >>> 28N40 > > > > > > >>> 77E13 > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Sorry about that. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Cheers !!! > > > > > > >>> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca <http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> <%40>, " nikhlesh > > > > > > >>> mathur " <nikhleshmathur@> wrote: > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > Sub: 24th Feb 1979, 4.10 am, 28.N.40, 77.E.13 > > > > > > >>> > Dear Ash ji, > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > You said that Su is 9Ta31 for the above native. But a person > > > > > > >>> born on the month of Feb cannot have his Sun in Taurus sign. It > > > > > > >>> should be in Aquarius at this time. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > If other things are okay then I think the birth date is 24th May. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > Please confirm. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > Regards, > > > > > > >>> > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:47:29 +0530 wrote > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > Add to > > > > > > >>> > this. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > 6) When > > > > > > >>> > can the native face health problems? > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > Cheers !!! > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca <http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > Ash's Corner@ [kas@] > > > > > > >>> > Monday October 26, 2009 > > > > > > >>> > 12:18 AM > > > > > > >>> > To: > > > > > > >>> > ' > > > > > > >>> <%27%40>' > > > > > > >>> > Practice Chart > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > Dear > > > > > > >>> > Group, > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > This > > > > > > >>> > lady has been posting charts in various lists for many years now. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > Here is > > > > > > >>> > the chart > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > 24th > > > > > > >>> > Feb 1979 > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > 4:10 AM > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > 28N40 > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > 77E13 > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > From > > > > > > >>> > what I gather, she had an affair or liked some guy that she > > > > > > >>> wanted to > > > > > > >>> > marry. I am not clear from her posts > > > > > > >>> > that if she married the same guy or not. > > > > > > >>> > Her parents were looking out for some proposals for her. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > If this > > > > > > >>> > chart came blindly to you, can you predict the following. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > 1) > > > > > > >>> > Marriage > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > 2) > > > > > > >>> > Child birth > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > 3) > > > > > > >>> > Marital Relations overall > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > 4) > > > > > > >>> > She has been complaining that relations are bad after marriage and > > > > > > >>> > asked if she should go for divorce. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > 5) > > > > > > >>> > Why she had affair or what are the yogs for that in this chart. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > Planet > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > Degrees > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > As > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > 15 Ar 55 > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > Su > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > 9 Ta 31 > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > Mo > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > 13 Ar 48 > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > Ma > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > 13 Ar 8 > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > Me > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > 2 Ta 15 > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > Ju > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > 11 Cn 16 > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > Ve > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > 14 Ar 30 > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > Sa > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > 14 Le 35 > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > Ra > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > 20 Le 59 > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > Ke > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > 20 Aq 59 > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > Cheers !!! > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca <http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 18, 2009 Dear Ash ji and Group, This chart comprises so many questions that should have been asked though every members tried his/her level best to ask and their efforts really worth appreciation.This is not a chart but simply a revision/excercise of all 36 lessons. Well done everybody and thanks to you Ash ji for bringing this wonderful chart.Owing to your continue efforts that all members were showing keen interest irrespect of few diversions. After a long time we were enjoying through this learning proccess on a single chart during all this one month where members did not hesitate to ask their doubts as well as they kept trying on this till their inner satisfaction. Still a last call,if any of the member wants to write something please do so.Result of this can be declared now (friday will be best option) because some memebers are busy or away after giving their thoughts time after time. Regards Anup --- On Thu, 19/11/09, ashsam73 <kas wrote: ashsam73 <kas Re: Practice Chart Date: Thursday, 19 November, 2009, 12:09 AM Dear Anup ji and All participating members in the learning exercise:We had waited for Hussein ji to get back and he came back and made his attemps. Now, Shalini ji is going to get busy or might be away with limited access for email and has taken good efforts during the quiz. Please give your opinions, if there is any further scope or attempts or revisions for any answers? If you all think that this thread has now come to its natural end, then we can give the answer so everyone can go back and study their own attempts and then DISCUSS the answers.If you all feel that you all want a bit more time to re-visit then please advise?Anup ji, what is your opinion? Is it now time to give the answer?Please advise me.Cheers !!!Ash -> http://www.ashtro. caastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "shalini" <shalini3004@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Ash Ji,> > Thank you for the time you have taken to first put together the write up/post on Guru and second this post. I understand you are very busy and I am grateful/fortunate to have you > and dear Anup Ji,Manu Ji, Prabha Ji, Nikhlesh Ji, Hussein Ji, Bella Ji the "astrologyandtiming events"group to help me and guide me to learn and understand KAS. When I joined the group at the end of January I was taking classes, which finished in August. I will admit I spent whatever time I could with my nose pressed to my screen pouring through the archives as best I could. It is not until recently that I came out to participate in the quiz's that have been posted in the last month. You encourage discussion and I believe this is monumental in the process of learning, but is only part of the learning process. As you have mentioned the archives are there and that is the foundation for any of us and actually is very enlightening. You have indeed, from what I have been able to touch upon, asked so many of the questions I have had in the archives and I am learning from everyone's input in past and present. > The quiz that you posted earlier and the practice chart that we have been discussing on last few weeks the churning between us with everything that has been posted is something learned. For me everybody is a senior member and I can only learn from all and give my attempts/perspectiv e/interpretation s. I am a student and have much, much to learn. I hope by my questioning I am not conveying that I only want free answer's that is not my intention or the reason I am in this group. Moreover, I do not feel if a true student just asking for answer can have the capacity to really learn any material.> I do use the search and read the posts in order they are posted, and I thank goodness for this ability. I am doing my best to take in and understand the basics. I may ask a question that may possibly have been asked in the archives, but there may be reasons that one cannot go through the archives as one wishes due to xyz problems. Therefore, discussions are very important I believe. > You asked me to write up my thoughts and I did so. It is not that I am only interested in Guru delay any delay is an important factor to understand as this groups focus is on timing. As your questions to me on Guru showed that I have much to learn in this arena and am working on the learning/understand ing and will post those answers again in some time and hope to give you the answer that you will not find fault in.> From next week I will be out for some time and will have very limited access to the internet, I will not be able to continue my studies of the archives, but if there is a discussion going on in the group I should hope to be a part of it. > > With Kind Regards,> > Shalini> > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "ashsam73" <kas@> wrote:> >> > Dear Shalini ji,> > > > All your questions that you have asked have been replied by me at some point or the other. I agree, that it might not be easy to find all my mails as the archives is growing, but then with the new search feature it might make it a tad more simplified.> > > > More than anything, else, I would like u to practice. I might be available to reply to all your queries, as life is getting me very busy now a days, then in that case what to do?> > > > Here I will give you some guidance that I have personally gone though. I used to ask all kinds of questions to Guru ji, and you can see that in the archives, and I am sure everyone has seen that. That is normal. That time, the archives had only so much information and Guru ji patiently answered and still does answer all my questions. There came one time, when, I look back now, I asked him some question and he advised me to practice. There was some concept that somehow was a hurdle and I kept getting stuck there, and I see that in your questions that you keep getting stuck on trying to judge the delay of Jupiter or when u get stuck in trying to find if a particular antra can give result or you are not following the steps corectly or maybe overlooking something and then u get stuck up and then want an answer.> > > > Again, I understand that, I understand where you are coming from, as I have personally walked down that same path. Likewise, if you see Anup ji, or Prabha ji or just for that matter Nikhlesh ji, Ramesh ji etc etc, these names I am taking as I am seeing their progress from a long time by their inputs on the list oh and Hussein ji as well. All of them are taking charts and practicing. > > > > So here are some steps that you can follow as a guide.> > > > 1) Take charts, dont assume any chart as accurate, but find charts with event dates given.> > 2) Do not look at the events. You can get a host of charts from the archives with given events.> > 3) Cast the chart, take a print out of the same.> > 4) Clear your mind of all worries, stress, or anything else. > > 5) With a cool mind just focus on the chart. Just see the chart and note down key points some observatations.> > 6) Like of example observatons DBCE points, what do u see the nature of the person is, what is the lagna points, does the native has blessings, any zeroes, any 4:10 or any 4:10 with opposition or some other salient points that u can see like Ve in krittika, Ju in libra etc etc etc..> > 7) Then focus on the question and then note down key poitns for that area of study. Say u are studing marriage then check the laws for marriage, first check if marriage is promised, then get a judge on quality, the lagna and 7th etc etc relations, study karak and rk, study 0's, study from desh, kaal, paatra, study delay etc etc etc.> > 8) Then start to narrow down to timing. For that first come to antra. Try to judge if that antra can give marriage, or if there are any overriding principles for moderating or removing delays like blessings of ju aspect on sa etc etc.> > 9) Then note down your doubts, if u are not certain of the antra.> > 10) Move to the next antra if u are not sure and note down YOUR REASONS. This is for you only. So that u can keep a trail of your questions and where u are getting stuck.> > 11) Then solve other events like job, child birth etc etc as per the chart u have taken.> > 12) Check the answre and then check your analysis and then u will get where if u are correct of where have u made mistake. > > 13) Note down your mistake along with your analysis and where u got stuck.> > 14) Remember this and solve next chart.> > > > If u solve 1000's of charts in due course of time, and each time remember where u have made mistakes, then with experience will come intution. > > > > You will also get the variations in some cases where Ju is causing delay where Sa is causing or delay is more than 36 years or 42 years in special cases so like that.> > > > There is a huge repository of charts with events solved in the archives, make us of it.> > > > Then when someone asks questiosn like wil ju cause delay and such and such is the scenario, then u will know the answer from you strong knowledge base and your intution will guide u.> > > > > > As the adage goes> > > > "Give a fish and he eats for a day, teahc him to fish and he eats for a life time"> > > > Hope that helps,> > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca> > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "shalini" <shalini3004@ > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Ash Ji and Group,> > > > > > Considering Lesson 36 these are my thoughts please correct me where I am straying off track. As per scenario 5 it states, "if guru is LoA or LoB it must be malefic for the houses it owns; less than 4 bindus."> > > > > > This scenario takes place in her D-9 chart with 4:13 am time. If we consider Guru's bindus for Pisces in SAV we find that Guru gives 2 > > > > > > (for SAV totals in D-1,D-9 Charts do we consider D-9 chart SAV??) > > > > > > bindus, thus it would be malefic and there would be Guru delay I believe. Guru delay is considered over when it aspects 7H, 7L or crosses it's natal position and can be calculated only after Saturn delay is over. When Saturn delay is over Guru is in Virgo does not aspect 7h or 7L, then moves to HB does aspect 7L in lagna but I think because it is in HB in Libra the delay is not over, in scorpio also it does not aspect 7H, 7L. Then in Sagittarius it aspects 7L Venus then this should end Guru delay. > > > Look forward to feedback.> > > > > > With Kind Regards,> > > > > > Shalini> > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "ashsam73" <kas@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Shalini ji,> > > > > > > > What do you think? Share your thoughts in detail and discuss. That is why this group is created to begin with so that discussion of such nature can be held and through discussion collective knowledge will grow. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca> > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "shalini" <shalini3004@ > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Ash Ji and Group,> > > > > > > > > > If we change the time to 3:13am as I believe you have mentioned in earlier post, this gives Virgo as Lagna in D-9 chart where now Guru will be in second house (karaka house, HA) and is lord of HB, this would then give Guru delay, would this be correct? > > > > > > > > > > With Kind Regards,> > > > > > > > > > Shalini> > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear All,> > > > > > > > > > > > Finally i am able to convince myself and fixed antra as below> > > > > > > > > > > > Selection of Ra/Ju antra is somewhat difficult as i have strong > > > > > > arguments for both side though i will go with Ju and considering Ra for > > > > > > affair before marriage> > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Marriage> > > > > > Mo-Ju antra will bring marriage> > > > > > > > > > > > 2) Child birth> > > > > > Mo-St antra brings child birth> > > > > > ----Ve is strong significator from ws points> > > > > > ----St is natural samdharmi to Ve> > > > > > ----St is in nakshatra of Ve and also cojoin Ve in navamsa > > > > > > ----St is LoE for 5th house can give child birth> > > > > > > > > > > > 3) Marital Relations overall> > > > > > ----karak Ve,Ju not good and marital relations seems not good> > > > > > ----except Ve all are having good points for 7th house not Bad> > > > > > > > > > > > 4) She has been complaining that relations are bad after marriage > > > > > > and asked if she should go for divorce.> > > > > > ----if she asked for divorce (which is obvious as karak are not good) > > > > > > then i suggest should not go for divorce...(looking DBCE and ws points > > > > > > for 7th house)> > > > > > > > > > > > 5) Why she had affair or what are the yogs for that in this chart.> > > > > > --there is delay in marriage and by considering 12th house (foreign > > > > > > relations) Ve is NK,FK for this and having less points for 12th> > > > > > --Mo-Ra(Venus) antra before marriage indicate that Ra being in 5th house > > > > > > can act as LoE and Eager to accoplish this.> > > > > > --Ve cojoin Ma and aspected by Ra in rashi> > > > > > --Ve in navamsa of Su and cojoin St in navamsa> > > > > > > > > > > > 6) Health> > > > > > ----Su is 12th lord for 6th house concern and placed in second house > > > > > > that will increase bad deed of this Su and this can gives health issues > > > > > > for native...in Ws Su has more then 11 points> > > > > > ----Me is strong significator from WS for 6th and 1st house and also it > > > > > > is LoD for 6th house and LoE for First house events> > > > > > ----Me being nakshatra of Su ...Me is samdharmi of Su and also LoB for > > > > > > 6th house with more then 5 points.....> > > > > > ----Me antra diffinately brings some health issues for native> > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ ------> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Devisingh> > > > > > > > > > > > devisigh wrote:> > > > > > > Dear All;> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Some more thoughts to fix antra> > > > > > >> > > > > > > St full delay but st have moved 15 degree so considering 27.5-1.3=26. 3 > > > > > > > year initial value> > > > > > > Ju aspects Hb in navamsa but is is in libra with rahu in navamsa and > > > > > > > in nakshtra of St so it can not check to saturn so full delay no help > > > > > > > from Ju to reduce delay as staus of Ju is not good> > > > > > >> > > > > > > no zero in SAV so no addition in delay> > > > > > > Blessing in navamsa but can not help to reduce delay> > > > > > > St is with Ra in rashi so more affilicted add delay> > > > > > > Mo aspected by Ra in rashi and St cojoin in navamsa ,As lumanaries are > > > > > > > aspected so that will add delay> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Main dasha lord Mo is OK as karka to give 7th house events> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Mo-Mo> > > > > > > Mo LoD and Natural Samdharmi to Ju can give event> > > > > > >> > > > > > > But I think this would not be case as some what delay have to be added> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Mo-Ma> > > > > > > Ju and Ma both in cancer one in rasi and another in navamsa makes them > > > > > > > samdharmi> > > > > > > Ju and Ma both are natural samdharmi> > > > > > > Ju and Ma 4:10 in rashi/navamsa> > > > > > > Ju LoE and high point So Event can be in 3rd sector of it.-----LEFT MA > > > > > > > IT CAN NOT ACT NOT REQUIRED> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Mo-Ra> > > > > > > Ra represnts Su/Ve....considerin g more like Ve NK FK.... and cojoin Ju > > > > > > > in navamsa so samdahrmi to Ju> > > > > > >> > > > > > > so Event can be in 3rd sector of it.......seems not wise choice still > > > > > > > to me-----AFFAIR SEEMS MORE LOGICAL IN THIS TIME> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Mo-Ju> > > > > > > Ju Can give Event in 3rd Sector on it> > > > > > >> > > > > > > will come up with more thought as gets educated to this system> > > > > > > ------------ ------> > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > Devisingh> > > > > > >> > > > > > > devisigh wrote:> > > > > > >> Dear Ash ji,> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >> Namaskar> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >> Sincere thanks for your words attitude intension and time.> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >> I am trying my all time what i can collect to study this system.> > > > > > >> I guess this can takes time may be 3year (less points till that time > > > > > > >> also indicate hardwork and busy for me) Will continue my > > > > > > >> attempt/doubts hope for comments from moderators for same.> > > > > > >> I am enjoying achieves thanks to Krushna,sanjay, Donna,Peter, Magritta > > > > > > >> and all very nice considering old time and situation.> > > > > > >> hope that will helps me to understand and utilize system and finally > > > > > > >> to absorb root or essence of system so other all system and vedic > > > > > > >> text can be clarified with same so better results can be obtained > > > > > > >> related to timing of events.> > > > > > >> Everybody is trying/pushing here only to help others using there own > > > > > > >> approach It is really appreciated GOD WILL HELP THEM WHO HELPED OTHERS> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >> *Please find below is thought process/approach:> > > > > > >> *I am taking acceptance that person is not mentally retired and birth > > > > > > >> details are correct no rectification required> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >> Quality of 7th house:> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >> * checking Ju in Libra in rashi/navamsa. ...navamsa has that...it> > > > > > >> is RK,NRK and LoE..seems not good for marriage.> > > > > > >> * checking Ve nakshatra in rashi...bharni. ..ok> > > > > > >> * checking Su and Ve distance in rashi...less then 43...ok> > > > > > >> * checking Ve is with Ra,St or aspect in rashi/navamsa. ....Ve is> > > > > > >> with St in navamsa....spoils Ve more> > > > > > >> * checking LoA,LoB,LoC, LoD,LoE in rashi.....Ve, St..Mo,Ju> > > > > > >> * checking planets with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ..Sa and Ju.....St is> > > > > > >> LoC and Ju is loE for 7th house and LoA for 5th house.> > > > > > >> * checking Ra aspects on house in> > > > > > >> rashi/navamsa. ..9,12,2. .7,9,11.. 12th is HoE,2nd is HoA,9th is> > > > > > >> karak for HoA and HoC for child..7th is HB,11th is HC> > > > > > >> * checking Ra aspects on planets in rashi and> > > > > > >> navamsa...Me, Su......Me 6th lord become more malefic and Su LoB> > > > > > >> for child case> > > > > > >> * checking for planets with 6th/12th lord in rashi/navamsa. ....> > > > > > >> Ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord.....me is with ve in navamsa> > > > > > >> spoils ve.> > > > > > >> * checking for aspects on house in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th> > > > > > >> lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord.....> > > > > > >> * checking for aspects on planets in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th> > > > > > >> lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord.....> > > > > > >> * cheking malefic aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....Ju with 5 points> > > > > > >> aspects to HoE,Ve with 6 points aspects to HB> > > > > > >> * cheking benific aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....St with 2 points> > > > > > >> also LoC aspects to HB,HA and Mo aspects to HB> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >> Blessings,compatibi lity,DBCE, strong house,strong planets:> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >> * as usual to be looked will look another time> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >> Finding significator:> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >> * checking for 2nd lord in rashi......Ve is 2nd lord...Ve antra> > > > > > >> will bring more pain> > > > > > >> * looking at 2,7,11 lords...ve and st....ve is with 6 points and> > > > > > >> st is with 2 points ....left st less points and left ve 2nd lord> > > > > > >> * looking at 2,7,11 occupents ...me and su...me is with 7 points> > > > > > >> and su is with 4 points ...left su less points and left me 6th lord> > > > > > >> * looking at 4,12 occupents... ju and ke(ju/ju)... so ju....ju is> > > > > > >> with 5 points ....considering ju ...left as in Libra and aspect> > > > > > >> malefic to HOE> > > > > > >> * consider Reperesnter for Ra/Ke...Su,Ve/ Ju,Ju.... ..left Ra as> > > > > > >> alresdy left su and ve,left ke as already left ju> > > > > > >> * looking at 4,12 lords....Mo, ju....considerin g moon as already> > > > > > >> left ju....mo may act......... still requires more time for me> > > > > > >> to finalise> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >> ------------ ------> > > > > > >> Regards,> > > > > > >> Devisingh> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >> Ash's Corner@ wrote:> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> Dear Devisingh ji,> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> Very nice attempt. Please continue your chain of thought.> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> Try to find the antra that you think might give marriage. Just go > > > > > > >>> upto antra.> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> So first compute the delay and there after start to think over the > > > > > > >>> best possible period that u think can give the event.> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> However, do write your thinking process. That will help one figure > > > > > > >>> out where you are going away or your confusion.> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> Well Done.> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> *Cheers !!!*> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> *Ash -> **http://www.ashtro. ca <http://www.ashtro. ca/>*> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> ** astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > > > > >>> [astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com] *On Behalf Of > > > > > > >>> *devisigh> > > > > > >>> *Sent:* Thursday November 5, 2009 6:42 AM> > > > > > >>> *To:* astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> > > > > > >>> *Subject:* Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> Dear All;> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> My first attempt using KAS rules/techniques only> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> 7th house marriage:> > > > > > >>> selecting Mo main Dasha which is with FK Ve for 7th house> > > > > > >>> Su and Ju seems significator from ws points for 7th house> > > > > > >>> other planets aspects 7th house i left them> > > > > > >>> Su is with Me which is 6th load makes Su samdharmi to 6th lord i > > > > > > >>> left that> > > > > > >>> Ju having highest points and also LoE> > > > > > >>> now considering Ju only as strong significator which in RK and NRK > > > > > > >>> and natural samdharmi to Mo which is LoD.> > > > > > >>> Ju does not have sight on A/B/C and is LoE can gives results> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> Thinking for samdharmi of Ju> > > > > > >>> in navamsa Ju is with Ra ...makes Ju and Ra samdharmi> > > > > > >>> Ra can be thought to facilitate results for 7th house matters > > > > > > >>> .......still this takes time for me to finalize> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> ------------ ------> > > > > > >>> Regards,> > > > > > >>> Devisingh> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> ashsam73 wrote:> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> Dear Nikhlesh ji,> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> You are correct. It was a typo. It was good that I gave the> > > > > > >>> degree of all planets so this mistake could be checked right in> > > > > > >>> the begining.> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> Thanks Nikhlesh ji.> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> The date should be May 24th.> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> 24th May 1979> > > > > > >>> 4:10 AM> > > > > > >>> 28N40> > > > > > >>> 77E13> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> Sorry about that.> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> Cheers !!!> > > > > > >>> Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca <http://www.ashtro. ca>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> > > > > > >>> <astrologyan dtimingevents% 40. com>, "nikhlesh> > > > > > >>> mathur" <nikhleshmathur@ > wrote:> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> > Sub: 24th Feb 1979, 4.10 am, 28.N.40, 77.E.13> > > > > > >>> > Dear Ash ji,> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> > You said that Su is 9Ta31 for the above native. But a person> > > > > > >>> born on the month of Feb cannot have his Sun in Taurus sign. It> > > > > > >>> should be in Aquarius at this time.> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> > If other things are okay then I think the birth date is 24th May.> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> > Please confirm.> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> > Regards,> > > > > > >>> > Nikhlesh Mathur> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> > On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:47:29 +0530 wrote> > > > > > >>> > >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> > Add to> > > > > > >>> > this.> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> > 6) When> > > > > > >>> > can the native face health problems?> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> > Cheers !!!> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca <http://www.ashtro. ca>> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> > Ash's Corner@ [kas@ ]> > > > > > >>> > Monday October 26, 2009> > > > > > >>> > 12:18 AM> > > > > > >>> > To:> > > > > > >>> > 'astrologyandtiming events@grou ps.com> > > > > > >>> <%27astrolog yandtimingevents %40. com>'> > > > > > >>> > Practice Chart> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> > Dear> > > > > > >>> > Group,> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> > This> > > > > > >>> > lady has been posting charts in various lists for many years now.> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> > Here is> > > > > > >>> > the chart> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> > 24th> > > > > > >>> > Feb 1979> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> > 4:10 AM> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> > 28N40> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> > 77E13> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> > From> > > > > > >>> > what I gather, she had an affair or liked some guy that she> > > > > > >>> wanted to> > > > > > >>> > marry. I am not clear from her posts> > > > > > >>> > that if she married the same guy or not.> > > > > > >>> > Her parents were looking out for some proposals for her.> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> > If this> > > > > > >>> > chart came blindly to you, can you predict the following.> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> > 1)> > > > > > >>> > Marriage> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> > 2)> > > > > > >>> > Child birth> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> > 3)> > > > > > >>> > Marital Relations overall> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> > 4)> > > > > > >>> > She has been complaining that relations are bad after marriage and> > > > > > >>> > asked if she should go for divorce.> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> > 5)> > > > > > >>> > Why she had affair or what are the yogs for that in this chart.> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> > Planet> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> > Degrees> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> > As> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> > 15 Ar 55> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> > Su> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> > 9 Ta 31> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> > Mo> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> > 13 Ar 48> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> > Ma> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> > 13 Ar 8> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> > Me> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> > 2 Ta 15> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> > Ju> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> > 11 Cn 16> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> > Ve> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> > 14 Ar 30> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> > Sa> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> > 14 Le 35> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> > Ra> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> > 20 Le 59> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> > Ke> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> > 20 Aq 59> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> > Cheers !!!> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca <http://www.ashtro. ca>> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> The INTERNET now has a personality. 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