Guest guest Report post Posted October 29, 2009 Dear Prabha ji and group, for blessings do we see it from Asc lagna and the 9th Lo relationship and see if it's making a nav pancham yog because 9th Lo represents father and the blessings are from father or Do we see the blessings from Su and Mo lagna also? I thought we see it from all 3 lagnas as blessings are not only from father but also from elderly but I could be wrong. Technically it shows that she will listen to the advice of elderly. Again with the points being low in 1st Hs shows that blessings might work. Being non egoistic she will listen to her elders even though she likes to take a lead in her occupation or boast around amongst her friends and colleages. Thank you, -Bella. - BPShiv Thursday, October 29, 2009 10:25 AM Re: Re: Practice Chart Dear Prabha ji, Thank you for your inputs. Pls correct me again if I am wrong But, what I see is, In Rasi there is blessings from Su, as Ve and Sa are in 5:9 and in navamsa has blessings from Asc and Mo which is Su and Ma in 5:9. So the blessings are strong. Now Karak for the 5th Hs is Ju and Ju being in Li in navamsa could delay the timing and spoiil the quality of marriage but due to strong blessings if marriage did happen she might be able to conceive that's what I am thinking. The result might be questionable as the karak is spoilt and Ra being in the 5th Hs. I agree, her points are low in 1st hs but DBCE in ascending order and more sectors of Sun and Ju, I thought she might not be egoistic but would like to be a leader, could be a hypocrite trying to show off having a boastful nature. Yes, Ve being with Ma spoils Ve more with negative characteristics also Sa aspecting the luminaries. That's what I have mentioned earlier and because of that I thought marriage will happen with the blessings but will give affairs or multiple relationships. again Prabha ji, pls feel free to comment on my thoughts. Thank you, -Bella. - prabha Thursday, October 29, 2009 2:18 AM Re: Practice Chart Dear Bella jiMay 24 1979 4:10am 28N40 77E13 - FemaleIn your mail you had mentioned that there is a blessing in Rasi chart. I dont find any blessings in Rasi chart.1. For child birth especially in female chart, 11H alongwith 5H needs to be studied. Both houses has the karaka and mool karak spoiled, so according to me the female might not have given birth to a child.2. Though points in first house is <28, increasing points in DBCE houses and Ma the lagna lord in lagna and that too the lord being Ma --- will give lot of independency of thought/action to this female.3. Ve with Ma in Ma house, with Sa. Sa aspects both luminaries too. And Mo is with Ve and Ma. So the native's mentality can be known by this.These are some of the things I noticed about this chart.ThanksPrabha , "BPShiv" <chandni_99 wrote:>> Dear Ash ji and Group,> > Here is my analysis:> May24 1979 4:10am 28N40 77E13 - Female> > > Overall:> > Lagna and 7th SAV pts: 26/24 navamsa: 29/27 below average points for 7th Hs but non egoistic in nature.> > Lagna and 7th: Ma/Ve 1:1> > Sun and 7th: Ve/Ma 1:1> > Mo and 7th: Ma/Ve 1:1> > Ve and 7th: Ma/Ve 1:1> > Ma and 7th: Ma/Ve 1:1> > Quality:> > 2nd Lo is in 1st, 3rd Lo is in 2nd which is 12th from its own house.> > Overall marriage Quality is very very poor.> > Blessings: Has blessings in Rasi and Navamsa.> > Su to Ve distance: OK.> > 6th Lo: Me is in 2nd Hs A, Karak for marriage. Now if 2nd house is spoilt or Ve or 2nd lord of chart then there might be multiple marriages or marriages might not last.> > Jup in Libra in navamsa.> > No zeros.> > DBCE pts: 30/29/31/44 Should be in business with good income.> > 4 Sectors of Su, 3 sectors of Ju, 1 of Ve and 1 of Me. Would like to lead. She is not egoistic but would like to show off in what she is involved or could be boastful. Could be religious. Her expenditure would be less than her income and hence will have savings.> > Marriage:> > Quality of marriage is poor but has strong blessings. All the 7th Hs significators are strong except Ve.> > Delay: Full Sa delay and Sa in 5th Hs.> > After the delay period is over, she should have been married in Ju antra, Ju being LoE and in 4th Hs 'D' with more pts. Aug/07-Dec/08 Or it could even have materialized towards the end in Ra antra third sector, as Ra is samdharmi to Ju. Feb/07 - Aug/07> > Ve being with Ma in Rasi and Ve being with Sa and Sa aspecting luminary and is with Mo in navamsa. Sa will enhance her Ve and give her more relations and Ju is not checking this Ve.> > Affair:> > She could have had an affair in Mo antra as Mo being LoD with high pts in WS, in between sep/04 and Jul/05. Did not give the result as she was in delay period.> > Child Birth:> > 5th Hs significators are Su, Me, Ve and Sa.> > Sa being LoE. Dec/08 to Jul/10. No delay so could be first sector. The conception time could be in between Dec/08 - Jun/09.> > Divorce or Separation:> > Jup in Libra. 2nd Hs is spoilt. Ve is in 12th from 2nd. Ve is with Ma. Sa aspects luminaries. Overall quality is zero. > > There might be a break in marriage in Sa antra Dec/08 - Jul/10 as 6th Lo is in Sa navamsa and also Sa is samdharmi to Ve, Ve being spoilt, in 12th from 2nd and Ve has low points in WS.> > As we know that if marriage happened in LoD or LoE or higher power planet but if the quality is not good then it might break during the antra of lower power planet.> > Conclusion:> > She should have been married in between Aug/07-Dec/08 or due to strong blessings if the delay is reduced event could have happened during the end of Ra antra: Feb/07 - Aug/07> > Conception is possible in Sa antra first sector Jan-Jun/09. > > I could see her complaining after marriage as her overall quality is poor. Yogs for multiple relationships but unhappiness in married life.> > > > Thank you,> > -Bella.> > > > > > - > ashsam73 > > Monday, October 26, 2009 9:22 AM> Re: Practice Chart> > > Dear Group,> > After you all solve the chart, can you all just create a summary at the end giving the > > Event Name and antra or Date or Age of Event> > eg.> > Marriage : XYZ Antra / date > Conception : abc antra / age> etc> > So that it becomes easy for me to see. > > I am requesting this as I do not have a lot of free time on my hands, so this will help me go through the mails faster.> > Also please feel free to discuss amongts each other and ask each other the doubts and can brain storm on the approach. That way, all can learn as well. Hussein ji is not avaiable as per his mail and I know he will be very keen to attempt this. So let us take the time to keep this chart going till he gets back and catches up.> > Enjoy.> > Cheers !!!> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca> > , "ashsam73" <kas@> wrote:> >> > Dear Group,> > > > I also forgot to mention, please give your KAS reasoning behind it.> > > > Don't worry if its right or wrong, the main thing we want to address is the "Technique" that is given in the lesson.> > > > I am NOT looking for EXACT date, though, you all can try to do that as well and it will be good if you can do that for marriage. > > > > My aim is that assume that this native is recently born and if her parents came to you and showed u the chart made using KAS parameters, then, what would u predict for the events that I have given.> > > > I am quite sure that group members would be aware of our past generation jyotish / pundits, who would create charts when a child was born and give predictions like> > > > The native will marry at such and such time / age, he or she will have birth of children during such and such time / age, he or she might face problems in health in such time /age, might join job at such time, get promotion, might have comfort of conveyances or might buy home at such and such age etc etc etc.> > > > So approach this practice chart in such a way. For Marriage, however, try to predict the EXACT pdf if possible.> > > > I hope that the aim and objective of giving this practice chart is clear and what I am hoping that those members who attempt get experience as their take away from solving this.> > > > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > > > > > > > > > , "ashsam73" <kas@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Ramesh ji,> > > > > > I have just confirmed and replied to the mail that Nikhlesh ji sent. Yes, there was a typo at my end. Kindly refer to the mail I just sent to Nikhlesh ji.> > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > > > , ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Ash Ji,> > > > Your given chart does not tally with that of mine.> > > > I got Asc. as 23 Sg 21.On the contrary you are showing asc. as 15 Ar 55.> > > > Kindly check and confirm.> > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > rcmastro> > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 26/10/09, Ash's Corner@ <kas@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > Ash's Corner@ <kas@>> > > > RE: Practice Chart> > > > > > > > Monday, 26 October, 2009, 9:50 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add to this.> > > > > > > > 6) When can the native face health problems?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca [kas@ ashtro.ca] > > > > Monday October 26, 2009 12:18 AM> > > > 'astrologyandtiming events@grou ps.com'> > > > Practice Chart> > > > > > > > Dear Group,> > > > > > > > This lady has been posting charts in various lists for many years now. > > > > > > > > Here is the chart > > > > > > > > 24th Feb 1979> > > > 4:10 AM> > > > 28N40> > > > 77E13> > > > > > > > From what I gather, she had an affair or liked some guy that she wanted to marry. I am not clear from her posts that if she married the same guy or not. Her parents were looking out for some proposals for her.> > > > > > > > If this chart came blindly to you, can you predict the following.> > > > > > > > 1) Marriage> > > > 2) Child birth> > > > 3) Marital Relations overall> > > > 4) She has been complaining that relations are bad after marriage and asked if she should go for divorce.> > > > 5) Why she had affair or what are the yogs for that in this chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet> > > > > > > > Degrees> > > > > > > > > > > > As> > > > > > > > 15 Ar 55> > > > > > > > > > > > Su> > > > > > > > 9 Ta 31> > > > > > > > > > > > Mo> > > > > > > > 13 Ar 48> > > > > > > > > > > > Ma> > > > > > > > 13 Ar 8> > > > > > > > > > > > Me> > > > > > > > 2 Ta 15> > > > > > > > > > > > Ju> > > > > > > > 11 Cn 16> > > > > > > > > > > > Ve> > > > > > > > 14 Ar 30> > > > > > > > > > > > Sa> > > > > > > > 14 Le 35> > > > > > > > > > > > Ra> > > > > > > > 20 Le 59> > > > > > > > > > > > Ke> > > > > > > > 20 Aq 59> > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add whatever you love to the India homepage. 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Guest guest Report post Posted October 30, 2009 Just catching up on e-mails. I am not sure if anybody has answered the question on when this person may face health issues. Here is my attempt (only on the health question) - The person is currently under Moon-Saturn period. No isssues for health in this period. The period of Ketu is from Dec 2011 through July 2012. Since Ketu represents Jupiter, Mars and Saturn, and Mars and Jupiter have less than 12 points for the 6th house, and Saturn is LOE for 6th house, this person will have health issues during this period. Thanks, Nir. , " shalini " <shalini3004 wrote: > > Dear Ash Ji and Respected Group Members, > > I apologize that I am reposting the first part again (and the length) with some minor changes, however I thought when read together it would flow better. Ash Ji thank you for posting this chart it does help when there is a blind chart as there is no reference. Do not get me wrong the archives are priceless and very important, but when the answers are there it is hard for a beginner to actually learn as we cannot apply our own thoughts. With new charts and discussion in the group we begin to apply what we are learning and be corrected so we can secure the concepts and the laws. The first step is of course the archives and always a very important point of reference. The following is my attempt. > > Lagna and 7th SAV pts: 26/24 does not seem she is stubborn or strong willed, however it shows in the divisional that she is rules by four sectors of sun which shows an individual who does like to rule or be in control of things. > Natal D9 position D-9 > Lagna / 7h:Ma/Ve 1/1- 2/12 Sa/Su 6/8 > Sun / 7h: Ve/Ma 1/1- 2/12 Ju/Me 4/10 > Mo / 7th: Ma/Ve 1/1- 2/12 Su/Sa 6/8 > Ma / 7th: Ma/Ve 1/1- 2/12 Mo/Sa 1/1 > 40 20 20 > In all three categories the native is showing less than 50 points (10 for 1/1, 5 for 2/12) this shows marriage may not be happy/good for the native. > > Marriage: > > Natural and Functional Karaka: Venus > > Venus is very close to Mars also it is close to 4L moon who is 12L from 5H All three aspect 7H.Of which I believe Venus castes a negative aspects, Moon gives benefic aspect and Mars is neutral however, it is in it's own house so strong in it's house. Therefore, it's aspect will be malefic I believe (please confirm this point). > > Mool Karak: Jupiter > > Jupiter goes to Libra in D-9 and spoils it. Moreover, it is with Rahu. This weak Jupiter is also afflicted. It sits in the 4H is also which is not good for signification of the 4h; home family, and happiness. > > 4L = Moon is with 2L Venus > 12L= Jupiter aspects 10H > 5L=Sun is SD to Jupiter who is karak for 5H in 2H karak for 7H > 7L=Venus is LoD for 5H > > These combinations may mean she had a love marriage. > > I see that there is only Saturn delay present, which I believe is over in May 2005. This is when Saturn comes back into Cancer after first entry then it retrogrades out, May 17 05 Saturn comes back into cancer and thus I am calculating the end of Saturn delay. Please, let me know if this is correct. > > When looking at Lesson 30 I find that Venus is with Saturn (3) in Leo, however with Moon who is LoD. Then there is Rahu who aspects 7L and 2L Venus and is SD to Venus (7), however Rahu is with Jupiter in D-9 who is LoE. Also, if the 7L from lagna, Moon, and the Karaka of marriage or Venus is afflicted, the female will marry late (14), in this case the NK/FK,7L(Lagna/Moon) is Venus itself, who is in the aspect of Rahu and with Saturn in D-9 chart. > > Blessing: > Natal D9 position D-9 > Lagna / 9h: Ma/Ju 4/10- 4/10 Su/Ma 5/9 > Lagna / 3H: Ma/Me 2/12- 1/7 Ju/Me 6/8 > > The strength of blessings are weak as the 5/9 combination in d-9 is there and Mars does aspect Jupiter in d-1 and d-9, however, Rahu does aspect 9h, 1L in d-1 and with Jupiter in d-9. Therefore, I do not feel this can overcome Saturn Delay. > > Yogas For Affairs/Multiple Marriages: > > 1. 2nd house have sight of the sixth lord having more points. > > The native has 6L= Mercury in her 2H, in D-9 chart 2L=Mercury goes to 6H and 6L Saturn is with Venus. > > 9. Lagnesh( lord of Ascendent) and saptmesh (lord of seventh house) if are in 2:12 combination. > > 2/12 in d-9 > > 10. Lord of the sign, where Moon is situated, and the seventh lord from that place if in 2:12 combinations. > > 2/12 in d-9 > > 11. Lord of Venus (lord of the sign where Venus is situated) and the seventh lord there from have in 2:12 combination. > > 2/12 in d-9 > > 12. Same relation should be checked for Mars in female chart. > > 2/12 d-9 > > 14. More Planets with Venus, or related with Venus, More relation > with opposite sex. If Jupiter checks such Venus then the relations > are limited up to close Friendship only. And relation with only one > wife continues. > > In her chart there are three planets who are in the star of Venus. Jupiter is spoiled and in opposition to Venus therefore, cannot check Venus. > > > Childbirth: > > 5H: Natural and Functional Karak: Jupiter > > Jupiter goes to Libra in d-9 chart and becomes spoilt. Jupiter is giving a total of 8 points in SAV. Moreover, Jupiter sits in 12H from house " B " . Saturn and Rahu are in the 5h, Saturn is 11L Rahu aspects 11H and Mars, Mars aspects Karak; Jupiter. > In D-9 chart Jupiter is 5L with Rahu Mars aspects both. Mercury is 11L Mars aspects Mercury and Rahu aspects 11H. > > From 5H analysis of childbirth is weak. > > Mool Karak: Venus > > Venus is LoD, SD to Saturn who is LoE, but is also SD to Moon who is 12L for 5H as house " B " . Venus has 21 points in SAV. I think that though 6L is in 2H she still had love marriage I believe, because of Venus's power. Moreover, Mercury is SD to Sun who is LoB and Saturn who is LoE for 5H, Sun is SD Jupiter who is LoA in 4H, which is LoD for 7H as house " B " . > Also, the strength of Venus could give her a child as well, but due to Rahu and Mars aspects it could be a difficult pregnancy or she could have had a C-section or miscarriage, or even still birth. > > 11H: Natural and Functional Karak: Mercury > > Mercury sits in 12H from HC, 12L = Saturn who aspects Mercury, but it is also LoB. Mercury has 21 points in SAV. > > Her Karak for 11H is strong and positioned to give results. > > Mool Karak: Mars > > Mars is LoD SD to Moon who is LoE and has 20 points in SAV for 11H. For 11H Karak and Mool Karak are strong for childbirth or conception for sure. > > Since 5H karak is weak and Mool karak Venus is afflicted I am not sure about the results for Childbirth to be good. > > > Timing Marriage: > > This was not an easy chart for me to analyze timing, but here is my attempt. > > We understand that the overall chart is weak for overall happiness in marriage. Venus is the only planet with low points in SAV for 7H, 12H, but has 21 points for 5H. For 7H Venus aspects HB and is not LoD or LoE. For 12H Venus aspects HA and is not LoD or LoE, only for 5H is id LoD, however it is in opposition to Jupiter who is Karak for 5H. I believe Venus anatra cannot give marriage, Also I believe Saturn delay would not be over at this time. > > I found it interesting that there is not one planet that is SD to Mercury who is 6L, but Moon is SD to Venus, Jupiter, Sun, Saturn of which Mercury(6L) is SD to Sun and Saturn. Also, all the planets in the 1H become karak for the 6H; Moon, Venus and Mars. > > Moon is SD to Venus who is LoA, Karak Therefore Moon can give event. Moon is also LoD and has 26 points in SAV. It is true that unhappy marriages take place in antra with low points. However, I believe due to Moon's indirect connection to 6L via Saturn and Sun, and being SD to Jupiter as Jupiter is spoiled does not bode well for Moon. Also, being in the 1H become karak for the 6H. Moon gives 10 points for 5H and 17 points for 12H in SAV. > Since there is Saturn delay and no moderations I believe marriage took place in 3 sector of Moon/Moon dasa. > > Moon: 4H-1H=9H,6h > Venus: 2H,7H-1h=7H,12H,6H > Saturn: 10H,11H-5H=3H,4h,10H > Jupiter: 9H,12H-4H=2H,5H,9H > > Timing Childbirth: > > Due to my above analysis on the karakas I am a little unsure of the result for childbirth. > However, I believe Mars 3 sector could give conception. > > For 5H: Mars is SD to Ketu and Moon Ketu is represented by Saturn, Jupiter. Ketu will act most like Jupiter. Jupiter is LoA, LoC and Saturn is LoE, Mars has 6 points in SAV for 5h. > > For 11H: Mars LoD is SD to Ketu in HB and SD to Moon who is LoE. Mar has 20 points in SAV. Mars can give. Moon/Mars > > For 6H(loss of 11H): Mars is LoA in HA SD to Ketu who is in HE, has 11 points in SAV. > For 12h(loss of 5H): Mars aspects HA is SD to Moon who is LoC, has 10 points in SAV. > Mars can give but can also take away within it's antra. > > Moon: 4H-1H=9H,6h Mars: 1H,8H-1H=6H,1H,6H > Venus: 2H,7H-1h=7H,12H,6H Ketu: 11H=4H > Saturn: 10H,11H-5H=3H,4h,10H Moon:4H-1H=9H,6H > Jupiter: 9H,12H-4H=2H,5H,9H > Mars: 1H,8H-1H=6H,1H,6H > > Affair: > > I believe Rahu antra could have started an affair. > Rahu is in 5H, is represented by Venus who is LoD Sun who is LoB, with Jupiter in D-9 who is LoA. I believe the 3 sector of Rahu could give this. > > Health Problems: > > I believe that Saturn antra can give health concerns. If, we take the 6H as house " B " . > > Saturn is SD to Venus, Sun, Moon. Venus and Moon are in HA Saturn is LoC and LoE and has 15 points in SAV for 6H. > > I will be honest this chart was very fascinating and really interesting. I am sure I am going to learn a lot from this chart. It was hard to time marriage as there are many planets that are SD to Venus, also due to overall unhappiness one wonders how to pick a planets when all except Venus is giving high points for marriage. I wanted to say Rahu for marriage due to being represented by Venus and Venus having low points in SAV. However, I went with Moon who is SD to Venus and both are in the 1H which is karak for 6h. Ketu can give separation as it goes to HD for 2H as house " B " is represented by Jupiter is LoA, Saturn is LoD, and Mars who is 12L from house " B " . For Health problems to start I am not sure if for 6H a planet that is weak should be taken or a planet that is strong, a weak planet would not help 6H in which case Moon/Venus could give problems. > I have much to learn and look forward to feedback and learning!! Again I apologize for the length. Thank You. > > With Kind Regards, > > Shalini > > > , " Ash's Corner@ " <kas@> wrote: > > > > Dear Group, > > > > This lady has been posting charts in various lists for many years now. > > > > Here is the chart > > > > 24th Feb 1979 > > 4:10 AM > > 28N40 > > 77E13 > > > > From what I gather, she had an affair or liked some guy that she wanted to > > marry. I am not clear from her posts that if she married the same guy or > > not. Her parents were looking out for some proposals for her. > > > > If this chart came blindly to you, can you predict the following. > > > > 1) Marriage > > 2) Child birth > > 3) Marital Relations overall > > 4) She has been complaining that relations are bad after marriage and > > asked if she should go for divorce. > > 5) Why she had affair or what are the yogs for that in this chart. > > > > > > > > Planet > > Degrees > > > > As > > 15 Ar 55 > > > > Su > > 9 Ta 31 > > > > Mo > > 13 Ar 48 > > > > Ma > > 13 Ar 8 > > > > Me > > 2 Ta 15 > > > > Ju > > 11 Cn 16 > > > > Ve > > 14 Ar 30 > > > > Sa > > 14 Le 35 > > > > Ra > > 20 Le 59 > > > > Ke > > 20 Aq 59 > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 10, 2009 Dear Anup ji " Here Moon is not SD to Mars but Mars is SD to Moon. So Mars should act in Moon antra replacing Moon. " You mentioned that Ma is SD to Mo. That means if Mo if in any case is unable to give results during its antra, then Ma antra will give result as was required to be given by Mo. Now the second part of your mail that Ma in Mo antra will act is not very clear. Could you please explain this part? Thanks Prabha , " Anup. M " <dalh_1 wrote: > > Dear Group, >  >  > Let me correct here which is understood wrongly somewhere > in the mail below.  >  > Here Moon is not SD to Mars but Mars is SD to Moon. > So Mars should act in Moon antra replacing Moon. >  >  > Regards > Anup > >  > > > --- On Sun, 8/11/09, nikhlesh mathur <nikhleshmathur wrote: > > > nikhlesh mathur <nikhleshmathur > Re: Practice chart > > Sunday, 8 November, 2009, 2:30 PM > > >  > > > > > > 08.11.09 > Sub: Female native, 24.05.1979, 04:10 am, 28N40; 77E13, Asc 15Ar55 > > Dear Group, > > Proceeding further on the same chart for real practice, I wish to express the following; > > The Sa delay ends in May 2005 and at that time the Moon antra was in operation which is strong enough to give the marriage event. > > What if Moon antra do not give the event? > > The next antra is that of Mars. > > Mars aspects house B (and is weak) so it should not give the result on its own. > > Moon is SD to Mars. So Moon might depute Mars for the job which it somehow could not accomplish. > > Mars would be eager to work for Moon but it does not have strength to accomplish this mission. Mars has only 12 points for 7th house and so is not strong (it is a boundary-line case). > > Mars also has affliction of Rahu and so it would not give the marriage event. > > The Mars antra completes in Feb 2006. Next is Rahu antra. > > > Ra antra: > > Rahu represent Ve Su. It is more like Ve. > Rahu is LoE for 12th house. It would be eager to give the results of the 12th house (this house is also considered for marriage). > Rahu represents Su also which is LoE for 12th. > > Ve is aspected by Rahu and has low power for 7th house. > > One of the events told is that the lady is unhappy in marriage and even asking if she could go for divorce. If this is the case then she might have got married in a planet of lower strength. > > Ve is weak for 7th house and also for 12th house and Rahu represents Ve. > > Most probably she got marriage in Ra AD (Feb 06 to Aug 07). When marriage is unhappy then it is usually performed in the sub period of the significator planet which has low points. Here Ve is significator for marriage but has low points for 7th house. > > So marriage in the antra of Rahu is possible if the Moon antra earlier is missed. > > Ju antra : If suppose marriage could not take place in Rahu antra as well then the next antra is of Ju. > > Here Ju is LoE and very strong for 7th house. > But it is said and also understood from the chart that there is marriage unhappiness. > > Here Ju is of 30 points for 7th house so it will give the timing but it also has mf of 1.4 which makes it extremely good for the quality of the event happened in its AD. > > Marriage happiness is not seen. So Ju antra must not have given marriage. > > Sa antra : Next is Sa antra. Sa had been the delay causing planet and therefore if the native is still unmarried when this antra came then it will give marriage in the 1st sector itself ( Dec 08 to June 09). > > But again here Sa is strong for 7th house and even after taking mf into account it indicates to give marital happiness which practically speaking is not the case with this native. > > INERENCE INDICATED: > > Considering that this lady had a love marriage and taking into account the unhappiness in her married life, the stronger indications are that she got married in the antra of Ra (representing Ve) which means marrying in low power planet and when the antra of Ju arrived next, some problems started cropping in the married life. > > Regards, > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:33:18 +0530 wrote > > Dear Nikhlesh ji and group, > > Yes the delay is technically over in may 2005. > sofollowing antras are Mars,Rahu,Ju and Sa antra. > > What do you think about these antras? > Mars aspect 7th house now next possible antras for > > 1] Marriage > 2] Conception > 3] Health issues etc ???? > > > Regards > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./ > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 10, 2009 Respected Ashji " From what I gather, she had an affair or liked some guy that she wanted to marry. I am not clear from her posts that if she married the same guy or not. " Now this sentence of yours means she is married either to the boy of her choice or otherwise. " Her parents were looking out for some proposals for her. " This statement of yours shows that her parents are still looking for a match for her. What is the status - Is she married or not married. Or do you want us to find the marital status of the native. Thanks Prabha , " Ash's Corner " <kas wrote: > > Dear Group, > > This lady has been posting charts in various lists for many years now. > > Here is the chart > > 24th Feb 1979 > 4:10 AM > 28N40 > 77E13 > > From what I gather, she had an affair or liked some guy that she wanted to > marry. I am not clear from her posts that if she married the same guy or > not. Her parents were looking out for some proposals for her. > > If this chart came blindly to you, can you predict the following. > > 1) Marriage > 2) Child birth > 3) Marital Relations overall > 4) She has been complaining that relations are bad after marriage and > asked if she should go for divorce. > 5) Why she had affair or what are the yogs for that in this chart. > > > > Planet > Degrees > > As > 15 Ar 55 > > Su > 9 Ta 31 > > Mo > 13 Ar 48 > > Ma > 13 Ar 8 > > Me > 2 Ta 15 > > Ju > 11 Cn 16 > > Ve > 14 Ar 30 > > Sa > 14 Le 35 > > Ra > 20 Le 59 > > Ke > 20 Aq 59 > > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 11, 2009 Dear Members DOB: 24 May 1979; TOB: 4.13 am; POB: 28N40, 77E13 Sa delay gets over in Mo/Mo antra. After that in Ma antra the native would have got married. Ma has only 12 points in WS and thats in border - can be happy event or unhappy. Ma aspects HoB but is SD to LoD, Mo. So being SD to Mo has given the event. Now if we take Ra which has given the event being SD to Ve having less point in WS for 7th house, then in the highest points giving planet ie Ju, she should have separated from her husband. Also if we check, she has 3 sectors of Ju which makes her religious. Ju, the 9th lord, being in 4th position from first house helps the first house. That may be the reason why the native got married though Karaks and Root Karak are spoiled. Thanks Prabha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 11, 2009 Dear Anup Ji and group, Yes, I mentioned in my first analysis that I know I was going to learn a lot from this chart! When Ash Ji cleared the 'affair " mis-understanding I had and his questions to me on Guru (in 4h..), I began to see things differently. I have so much to learn!! With Kind Regards, Shalini , " Anup. M " <dalh_1 wrote: > > Dear Shaliniji and group, >  >  >  > Thats why with due course of time we learn and we never forget > this process.Next time when some other chart will be given,you start > looking with different aspect. >  > Which antra is feasible and more appropriate,members are striving > but everyone seems to be on right track by one way or other. >  >  > As we all know our KAS rules are fixed so is WS for timing event. > We can make mistakes while understanding but this is always there, >  > Its something not an easy task to fix antras in the span of 6 years > which comprises delay and then following antras of Moon,Ma,Ra,Ju and > Sa. >  > Think more.... the things are becoming crystal clear slowly ! >  > Ohh i am late for my office too. >  >  > Regards > Anup >  >  >  >  >  > --- On Thu, 12/11/09, shalini <shalini3004 wrote: > > > shalini <shalini3004 > Re: Practice Chart > > Thursday, 12 November, 2009, 6:01 AM > > >  > > > > Dear Ash Ji,Anup Ji,Hussein ji, Bella Ji, Nikhlesh Ji, and List Members, > > I think we can then say that Jupiter has given marriage. My next question is, was this a love marriage? Can Jupiter give her a love marriage?? My Thoughts for (5h); Jupiter is LoA, is SD to Saturn who is LoE in HB, SD to Venus who is LoD. Jupiter gives low points in SAV for 5h, but is high for 4h which becomes LoD for 7H (Ash Ji your questions on Guru to me is guiding me here let me know if I am on the rigth track)Thus becoming eager to give marriage, but I believe not love marriage. Moreover, Mercury is 6L and if 6L connects with 2H or 10H it denies love marriage Mercury is in 2h LoD for 5h and SD to Saturn LoE for 5h, however I think since Jupiter is in HE for 11H conception, she could have conceived in this antra and could have had problems with the pregnancy that could have led to health problems that could have started in Jupiter only due to conception but escalate in Saturn antra. Jupiter has low points for 6H, but Saturn has high points for 6H. So > then, it is also possible that her problems get better in Satrun antra as Saturn has high points and is LoE. Look forward to everyone's thoughts. > Thank You Ash Ji for you questions on Guru I am still thinking on them and hope to cover them more in depth with you and group soon. > > With Kind Regards, > > Shalini > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, " BPShiv " <chandni_99@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Hussein ji, > > > > Yes you are correct. Due to the poor quality marriage should have happened during the lower power planet or 6th Lo and therefore, I was sticking with Ra antra which was a possibility after delay. > > > > But I am trying to debate myself with different antras and see the pros and cons. What if Ra antra didn't give her the marriage. As delay is the max. Full delay from Sa. Sa in the 5th and Ju in Li. Also, DBCE points are high. Keeping other factors in mind delay could be extened to Ju antra. > > > > Then, > > I thinking of Ju antra as Ju is very very strong for timing. So it could give the result but because overall quality is nil and Ju being in Li, both karaks spoilt, NK and FK in 12th from its own. 6th Lo in karaksthan. Ve with Sa in navamsa and with Ma in Rasi and Sa with Mo in navamsa and aspects Su in Rasi...all these are indirect pointers to separation when the overall quality of the chart from Lagna, Su Mo and Ve is zero. Now if the 2nd Hs is spoilt or 2nd Lo is spoilt it leads to multiple marriages/relations hips. > > > > Therefore, if Ju gives marriage, then after that comes Sa antra. Sa is LoD for the 2nd Hs with highest points in the WS could give a break. Now that being said, as mentioned earlier these are few pointers of separation that I was seeing (I still have to hass it out with Nikhlesh ji on this topic of separation) > > > > > > Of course, like Nikhlesh ji said, for divorce male and female, both the charts have to be viewed but here we only have her data, we are not saying anything concrete but can say that there is a possibility. Now if we have the other person's chart to compare and overall chart quality is excellent and meets all the compatability aspects like Ma, Ve and so forth. has blessings than all this factors will change and will prevent the break. > > > > > > > > Followed by Sa antra comes Me antra which is 6th Lo. These antras are not going to help her stabilize marriage. > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > -Bella. > > > > > > - > > Hussein > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > Wednesday, November 11, 2009 10:33 AM > > [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart > > > > > > > > Dear Bella ji > > > > We should consider the nature of the marriage.Here marriage is unhappy,then I think it can't take place > > > > in antra of Ju. > > > > Best Wishes > > > > Hussein > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, " BPShiv " <chandni_99@ > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > Ju antra seems to be very strong for the event. > > > > > > One more addition. This Ju is triggering 7th Hs and 12th Hs. It's LoE for 7th with high bindus sitting in Hs D. and LoD for 12th Hs. Also has highest power in WS for 7th Hs and also good points for 12th Hs. > > > > > > With the prolonged delay and Ju being in Li, I would say the third sector which is Jun 2008 - Nov 2008. > > > > > > Thank you, > > > -Bella. > > > > > > > > > - > > > BPShiv > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > Wednesday, November 11, 2009 6:30 AM > > > Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Practice Chart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prabha ji, > > > > > > Could be very well possible that the native is still unmarried maybe due to carreer related matters but again here is my thoughts if she is already married: > > > > > > Karaks are spoilt and delay is lengthy therefore, even if Ra antra didn't give her the marriage, Ju followed by Ra seems to be very powerful. > > > > > > As far as quality, Ju is spoilt but for the timing, Ju is LoE and also with more bindus sitting in Hs D making it very eager to give the result, which should be Jul 2007 - Nov 2008. > > > > > > Thank you, > > > -Bella. > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > prabha > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > Wednesday, November 11, 2009 4:33 AM > > > [astrologyandtiming events] Practice Chart > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members > > > DOB: 24 May 1979; TOB: 4.13 am; POB: 28N40, 77E13 > > > > > > In this chart: > > > 1. The NK/FK, Ve is spoiled as it is in 12th house from itself. > > > 2. 6th lord, Me is in HoA. > > > 3. Ju, the Root Karak is in Libra. > > > 4. Ve is in Leo in D9 - and Su is with Me[6th lord] in HoA. > > > 5. Even with 12th house as HoB, both Karak and Root Karak is spoiled by the aspect/conjunction of Sa and both are posited in 12th from its house. > > > Therefore I have a feeling that this native may not have got married. > > > Thanks > > > Prabha > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./ > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 11, 2009 Dear Shalini ji and group I m reading all ur discussions on this chart since last few days, i want to know one thng that when 6th lord Mer..is situated in 2nd house,so the karak sthan is spoiled , the marrg ll happn in the antra of low points.so Rahu will furnish this..This is as per my understanding. I may b wrong ,please correct me.. Regards Harpreet--- On Wed, 11/11/09, shalini <shalini3004 wrote: shalini <shalini3004 Re: Practice Chart Date: Wednesday, 11 November, 2009, 9:49 PM Dear Anup Ji and group,Yes, I mentioned in my first analysis that I know I was going to learn a lot from this chart! When Ash Ji cleared the 'affair" mis-understanding I had and his questions to me on Guru (in 4h..), I began to see things differently. I have so much to learn!!With Kind Regards,Shaliniastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "Anup. M" <dalh_1 wrote:>> Dear Shaliniji and group,>  >  >  > Thats why with due course of time we learn and we never forget > this process. Next time when some other chart will be given,you start> looking with different aspect.>  > Which antra is feasible and more appropriate, members are striving> but everyone seems to be on right track by one way or other.>  >  > As we all know our KAS rules are fixed so is WS for timing event.> We can make mistakes while understanding but this is always there,>  > Its something not an easy task to fix antras in the span of 6 years> which comprises delay and then following antras of Moon,Ma,Ra,Ju and > Sa.>  > Think more.... the things are becoming crystal clear slowly !>  > Ohh i am late for my office too.>  >  > Regards> Anup>  >  >  >  >  > --- On Thu, 12/11/09, shalini <shalini3004@ ...> wrote:> > > shalini <shalini3004@ ....>> [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> Thursday, 12 November, 2009, 6:01 AM> > >  > > > > Dear Ash Ji,Anup Ji,Hussein ji, Bella Ji, Nikhlesh Ji, and List Members,> > I think we can then say that Jupiter has given marriage. My next question is, was this a love marriage? Can Jupiter give her a love marriage?? My Thoughts for (5h); Jupiter is LoA, is SD to Saturn who is LoE in HB, SD to Venus who is LoD. Jupiter gives low points in SAV for 5h, but is high for 4h which becomes LoD for 7H (Ash Ji your questions on Guru to me is guiding me here let me know if I am on the rigth track)Thus becoming eager to give marriage, but I believe not love marriage. Moreover, Mercury is 6L and if 6L connects with 2H or 10H it denies love marriage Mercury is in 2h LoD for 5h and SD to Saturn LoE for 5h, however I think since Jupiter is in HE for 11H conception, she could have conceived in this antra and could have had problems with the pregnancy that could have led to health problems that could have started in Jupiter only due to conception but escalate in Saturn antra. Jupiter has low points for 6H, but Saturn has high points for 6H. So> then, it is also possible that her problems get better in Satrun antra as Saturn has high points and is LoE. Look forward to everyone's thoughts. > Thank You Ash Ji for you questions on Guru I am still thinking on them and hope to cover them more in depth with you and group soon.> > With Kind Regards,> > Shalini> > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "BPShiv" <chandni_99@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Hussein ji,> > > > Yes you are correct. Due to the poor quality marriage should have happened during the lower power planet or 6th Lo and therefore, I was sticking with Ra antra which was a possibility after delay.> > > > But I am trying to debate myself with different antras and see the pros and cons. What if Ra antra didn't give her the marriage. As delay is the max. Full delay from Sa. Sa in the 5th and Ju in Li. Also, DBCE points are high. Keeping other factors in mind delay could be extened to Ju antra.> > > > Then,> > I thinking of Ju antra as Ju is very very strong for timing. So it could give the result but because overall quality is nil and Ju being in Li, both karaks spoilt, NK and FK in 12th from its own. 6th Lo in karaksthan. Ve with Sa in navamsa and with Ma in Rasi and Sa with Mo in navamsa and aspects Su in Rasi...all these are indirect pointers to separation when the overall quality of the chart from Lagna, Su Mo and Ve is zero. Now if the 2nd Hs is spoilt or 2nd Lo is spoilt it leads to multiple marriages/relations hips.> > > > Therefore, if Ju gives marriage, then after that comes Sa antra. Sa is LoD for the 2nd Hs with highest points in the WS could give a break. Now that being said, as mentioned earlier these are few pointers of separation that I was seeing (I still have to hass it out with Nikhlesh ji on this topic of separation) > > > > > > Of course, like Nikhlesh ji said, for divorce male and female, both the charts have to be viewed but here we only have her data, we are not saying anything concrete but can say that there is a possibility. Now if we have the other person's chart to compare and overall chart quality is excellent and meets all the compatability aspects like Ma, Ve and so forth. has blessings than all this factors will change and will prevent the break.> > > > > > > > Followed by Sa antra comes Me antra which is 6th Lo. These antras are not going to help her stabilize marriage.> > > > > > > > Thank you,> > > > -Bella.> > > > > > - > > Hussein > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > Wednesday, November 11, 2009 10:33 AM> > [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart> > > > > > > > Dear Bella ji> > > > We should consider the nature of the marriage.Here marriage is unhappy,then I think it can't take place > > > > in antra of Ju.> > > > Best Wishes> > > > Hussein> > --- In astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "BPShiv" <chandni_99@ > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Group,> > > > > > Ju antra seems to be very strong for the event.> > > > > > One more addition. This Ju is triggering 7th Hs and 12th Hs. It's LoE for 7th with high bindus sitting in Hs D. and LoD for 12th Hs. Also has highest power in WS for 7th Hs and also good points for 12th Hs.> > > > > > With the prolonged delay and Ju being in Li, I would say the third sector which is Jun 2008 - Nov 2008.> > > > > > Thank you,> > > -Bella.> > > > > > > > > - > > > BPShiv > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > Wednesday, November 11, 2009 6:30 AM> > > Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Practice Chart> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prabha ji,> > > > > > Could be very well possible that the native is still unmarried maybe due to carreer related matters but again here is my thoughts if she is already married:> > > > > > Karaks are spoilt and delay is lengthy therefore, even if Ra antra didn't give her the marriage, Ju followed by Ra seems to be very powerful. > > > > > > As far as quality, Ju is spoilt but for the timing, Ju is LoE and also with more bindus sitting in Hs D making it very eager to give the result, which should be Jul 2007 - Nov 2008.> > > > > > Thank you,> > > -Bella.> > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > prabha > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > Wednesday, November 11, 2009 4:33 AM> > > [astrologyandtiming events] Practice Chart> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members> > > DOB: 24 May 1979; TOB: 4.13 am; POB: 28N40, 77E13> > > > > > In this chart:> > > 1. The NK/FK, Ve is spoiled as it is in 12th house from itself. > > > 2. 6th lord, Me is in HoA.> > > 3. Ju, the Root Karak is in Libra.> > > 4. Ve is in Leo in D9 - and Su is with Me[6th lord] in HoA.> > > 5. Even with 12th house as HoB, both Karak and Root Karak is spoiled by the aspect/conjunction of Sa and both are posited in 12th from its house.> > > Therefore I have a feeling that this native may not have got married.> > > Thanks> > > Prabha> > >> >> > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/> From cricket scores to your friends. Try the India Homepage! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 12, 2009 Dear Hussein Ji, Thanks....yes i missed....that can be 1 good choice... argument related to oppose. ------------------ Regards, Devisingh Hussein wrote: Dear Devisingh I mean Ma has 12 pts.As I've studied in lessons,when we have an unhappy marriage,we have two possibilities: 1-it will take place in the antra of 6th lord(or a planet SD TO 6TH LORD) 2-in the antra of a planet with lowest points in WS for 7th house as B Best Wishes Hussein , devisigh <devisingh.rajput wrote: > > Dear Hussein, > > Good learning from your mails too nice posts. > > "Ma has 12 pts ,but I think it can't give marriage as it is not SD for > 6L" or "even is not the lowest point Planet for 7H in WS" > > Second part i can understand that quality is poor so lowest points > planet antra can be selected...however i think that is not Must rule. > Can you please say something more for first part? why you feel Ma out? > Ma has 12 points that is 1 reason but what about it is not SD for 6L? > > ------------------ > Regards, > Devisingh > > > Hussein wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ash ji ,Anup ji and members > > Let at first thanks Ash ji and Anup ji for their good guides and kind > > words which encourages us for learning more and more. > > Thanks Anup ji for his correction.Yes,we should consider the spoiling > > of Karaks.I didn't consider it in my analysis.Me as 6L is in 2nd > > house,Means in Karaksthan.I think we should add another point that Ve > > as FK is placed in 12th from 2nd,means 1st house.All these show that > > even with being Sa in Ve nakshtra ,the delay will not be moderated. > > The general status of chart is unhappy(I think it has discussed ).Sa > > delay will be ended in 21-22 May 2005.Aftre Mo antra we have Ma > > antra.Ma has 12 pts ,but I think it can't give marriage as it is not > > SD for 6L or even is not the lowest point Planet for 7H in WS.After > > that we have Ra antra which more represents Ve,which is lowest point > > planet for 7H inWS.I think 3rd sector of Ra antra will give the > > results.Maybe between 7-Jun-2007 to 19-Jun-2007. > > One member had asked about that why I told heart attach.When Su and Ma > > are related to 4th and 5th house by lordship or placement or being > > with their lords,It will be the possibility of heart attack.Also I > > think this native will have a bad accident in Mo MD and Ve AD ..I > > explained it in my previous message. > > It may be some problems for childbirth because two malefics(Ra and Ma > > ) are there ,Its FK(8th lord from 5th which is Ju) is in 4th(12th from > > 5th), and also 5th lord is with 6th lord. > > As Ash ji has told,it is not bad if our answer is wrong,we should not > > fear that if we give a wrong answer,it showes us a weak student.We > > should give our thoughts,our ideas.Jus by that means we can learn.My > > answer my be wrong.It is not important for me if anyone think I am > > strong or weak after seeing my answer.THE ONLY IMPORTANT THING IS > > LEARNING COMPLETELY. > > Best Wishes > > Hussein > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Anup. M" > > dalh_1@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Devi singh ji, > > >  > > >  > > > I think samdharmi concept is not clear somewhere in your mail > > >  > > > Pleae note that .. > > > MOON AND JU ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI > > > JU AND MARS ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI. > > >  > > > Also we do not consider 4:10 relation in navamsa. > > >  > > >  > > > Regards > > > Anup > > >  > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 10/11/09, devisigh devisingh.rajput@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > devisigh devisingh.rajput@ > > > Re: Re: Practice Chart > > > > > > Tuesday, 10 November, 2009, 6:56 PM > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All; > > > > > > Some more thoughts to fix antra > > > > > > St full delay but st have moved 15 degree so considering > > 27.5-1.3=26. 3 year initial value > > > Ju aspects Hb in navamsa but is is in libra with rahu in navamsa and > > in nakshtra of St so it can not check to saturn so full delay no help > > from Ju to reduce delay as staus of Ju is not good > > > > > > no zero in SAV so no addition in delay > > > Blessing in navamsa but can not help to reduce delay > > > St is with Ra in rashi so more affilicted add delay > > > Mo aspected by Ra in rashi and St cojoin in navamsa ,As lumanaries > > are aspected so that will add delay > > > > > > Main dasha lord Mo is OK as karka to give 7th house events > > > > > > Mo-Mo > > > Mo LoD and Natural Samdharmi to Ju can give event > > > > > > But I think this would not be case as some what delay have to be added > > > > > > Mo-Ma > > > Ju and Ma both in cancer one in rasi and another in navamsa makes > > them samdharmi > > > Ju and Ma both are natural samdharmi > > > Ju and Ma 4:10 in rashi/navamsa > > > Ju LoE and high point So Event can be in 3rd sector of it. > > > > > > > > > Mo-Ra > > > Ra represnts Su/Ve....considerin g more like Ve NK FK.... and cojoin > > Ju in navamsa so samdahrmi to Ju > > > > > > so Event can be in 3rd sector of it.......seems not wise choice > > still to me > > > > > > Mo-Ju > > > Ju Can give Event in 3rd Sector on it > > > > > > will come up with more thought as gets educated to this system > > > ------------ ------ > > > Regards, > > > Devisingh > > > > > > devisigh wrote: > > > Dear Ash ji, > > > > > > Namaskar > > > > > > Sincere thanks for your words attitude intension and time. > > > > > > I am trying my all time what i can collect to study this system. > > > I guess this can takes time may be 3year (less points till that time > > also indicate hardwork and busy for me) Will continue my > > attempt/doubts hope for comments from moderators for same. > > > I am enjoying achieves thanks to Krushna,sanjay, Donna,Peter, > > Magritta and all very nice considering old time and situation. > > > hope that will helps me to understand and utilize system and finally > > to absorb root or essence of system so other all system and vedic text > > can be clarified with same so better results can be obtained related > > to timing of events. > > > Everybody is trying/pushing here only to help others using there own > > approach It is really appreciated GOD WILL HELP THEM WHO HELPED OTHERS > > > > > > Please find below is thought process/approach: > > > I am taking acceptance that person is not mentally retired and birth > > details are correct no rectification required > > > > > > Quality of 7th house: > > > > > > > > > checking Ju in Libra in rashi/navamsa. ...navamsa has that...it is > > RK,NRK and LoE..seems not good for marriage. > > > checking Ve nakshatra in rashi...bharni. ..ok > > > checking Su and Ve distance in rashi...less then 43...ok > > > checking Ve is with Ra,St or aspect in rashi/navamsa. .....Ve is with > > St in navamsa....spoils Ve more > > > checking LoA,LoB,LoC, LoD,LoE in rashi.....Ve, St..Mo,Ju > > > checking planets with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ..Sa and Ju.....St is LoC > > and Ju is loE for 7th house and LoA for 5th house. > > > checking Ra aspects on house in rashi/navamsa. ..9,12,2. ..7,9,11.. > > 12th is HoE,2nd is HoA,9th is karak for HoA and HoC for child..7th is > > HB,11th is HC > > > checking Ra aspects on planets in rashi and navamsa...Me, Su......Me > > 6th lord become more malefic and Su LoB for child case > > > checking for planets with 6th/12th lord in rashi/navamsa. .... Ju is > > 6th lord and me is 12th lord.....me is with ve in navamsa spoils ve. > > > checking for aspects on house in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... > > ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... > > > checking for aspects on planets in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th > > lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... > > > cheking malefic aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....Ju with 5 points > > aspects to HoE,Ve with 6 points aspects to HB > > > cheking benific aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....St with 2 points also > > LoC aspects to HB,HA and Mo aspects to HBBlessings,compatibi > > lity,DBCE, strong house,strong planets: > > > > > > > > > as usual to be looked will look another timeFinding significator: > > > > > > > > > checking for 2nd lord in rashi......Ve is 2nd lord...Ve antra will > > bring more pain > > > looking at 2,7,11 lords...ve and st....ve is with 6 points and st is > > with 2 points ....left st less points and left ve 2nd lord > > > looking at 2,7,11 occupents ...me and su...me is with 7 points and > > su is with 4 points ...left su less points and left me 6th lord > > > looking at 4,12 occupents... ju and ke(ju/ju)... so ju....ju is with > > 5 points ....considering ju ...left as in Libra and aspect malefic to HOE > > > consider Reperesnter for Ra/Ke...Su,Ve/ Ju,Ju.... ..left Ra as > > alresdy left su and ve,left ke as already left ju > > > looking at 4,12 lords....Mo, ju....considerin g moon as already left > > ju....mo may act......... still requires more time for me to finalise > > > > > > ------------ ------ > > > Regards, > > > Devisingh > > > > > > Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca wrote: > > >  > > > > > > > > > Dear Devisingh ji, > > >  > > > Very nice attempt. Please continue your chain of thought. > > >  > > > Try to find the antra that you think might give marriage. Just go > > upto antra. > > >  > > > So first compute the delay and there after start to think over the > > best possible period that u think can give the event. > > >  > > > However, do write your thinking process. That will help one figure > > out where you are going away or your confusion. > > >  > > > Well Done. > > >  > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca > > >  > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan > > dtimingevents] On Behalf Of devisigh > > > Thursday November 5, 2009 6:42 AM > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart > > >  > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All; > > > > > > My first attempt using KAS rules/techniques only > > > > > > 7th house marriage: > > > selecting Mo main Dasha which is with FK Ve for 7th house > > > Su and Ju seems significator from ws points for 7th house > > > other planets aspects 7th house i left them > > > Su is with Me which is 6th load makes Su samdharmi to 6th lord i > > left that > > > Ju having highest points and also LoE > > > now considering Ju only as strong significator which in RK and NRK > > and natural samdharmi to Mo which is LoD. > > > Ju does not have sight on A/B/C and is LoE can gives results > > > > > > Thinking for samdharmi of Ju > > > in navamsa Ju is with Ra ...makes Ju and Ra samdharmi > > > Ra can be thought to facilitate results for 7th house matters > > .......still this takes time for me to finalize > > > > > > ------------ ------ > > > Regards, > > > Devisingh > > > > > > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > > > > >  > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji, > > > > > > You are correct. It was a typo. It was good that I gave the degree > > of all planets so this mistake could be checked right in the begining. > > > > > > Thanks Nikhlesh ji. > > > > > > The date should be May 24th. > > > > > > 24th May 1979 > > > 4:10 AM > > > 28N40 > > > 77E13 > > > > > > Sorry about that. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "nikhlesh mathur" > > <nikhleshmathur@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sub: 24th Feb 1979, 4.10 am, 28.N.40, 77.E.13 > > > > Dear Ash ji, > > > > > > > > You said that Su is 9Ta31 for the above native. But a person born > > on the month of Feb cannot have his Sun in Taurus sign. It should be > > in Aquarius at this time. > > > > > > > > If other things are okay then I think the birth date is 24th May. > > > > > > > > Please confirm. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:47:29 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add to > > > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > 6) When > > > > can the native face health problems? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash's Corner@ [kas@] > > > > Monday October 26, 2009 > > > > 12:18 AM > > > > To: > > > > 'astrologyandtiming events@grou ps.com' > > > > Practice Chart > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear > > > > Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This > > > > lady has been posting charts in various lists for many years now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is > > > > the chart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24th > > > > Feb 1979 > > > > > > > > 4:10 AM > > > > > > > > 28N40 > > > > > > > > 77E13 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From > > > > what I gather, she had an affair or liked some guy that she wanted to > > > > marry. I am not clear from her posts > > > > that if she married the same guy or not. > > > > Her parents were looking out for some proposals for her. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If this > > > > chart came blindly to you, can you predict the following. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) > > > > Marriage > > > > > > > > 2) > > > > Child birth > > > > > > > > 3) > > > > Marital Relations overall > > > > > > > > 4) > > > > She has been complaining that relations are bad after marriage and > > > > asked if she should go for divorce. > > > > > > > > 5) > > > > Why she had affair or what are the yogs for that in this chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet > > > > > > > > > > > > Degrees > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As > > > > > > > > > > > > 15 Ar 55 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Su > > > > > > > > > > > > 9 Ta 31 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mo > > > > > > > > > > > > 13 Ar 48 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ma > > > > > > > > > > > > 13 Ar 8 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Me > > > > > > > > > > > > 2 Ta 15 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ju > > > > > > > > > > > > 11 Cn 16 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ve > > > > > > > > > > > > 14 Ar 30 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sa > > > > > > > > > > > > 14 Le 35 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra > > > > > > > > > > > > 20 Le 59 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ke > > > > > > > > > > > > 20 Aq 59 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Report post Posted November 12, 2009 Dear Anup ji, It is really wondering for me.....something i guess incorrect in drafting/representation by me...let me try one more time in better way..... Please clarify CAPS...this is new to me? "2.All Planets cojoin in sign   NO" By this i mean to say if two planets are in one sign in rashi chart ...for example ju and ma both are in Leo...both become samdharmi to each other....ma has low points so Ma can replace Ju "6.Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa)    NO" This is case where Ju is in Leo in rashi chart and Ma is in Leo in navamsa.....both are in Leo and become samdharmi "8.Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected)      NO" This is case where Ju with 5 point in Tarus and placed in 4th house....so LoD for 7th house is Ve and Ju can give result due to its placement so samdharmi to Ve ....can replace Ve "9.If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra    NO" This is case Ju is with Ra in rashi/navamsa.......and Ra represents Su/St......so Ju samdharmi to Su/St.....I Think this is my mistake we should not consider Ra as it does not have rulership of any sign "Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO" I think this is again not true as per your emails and lessons as well.......rather Mo natural samdharmi to Ma.............Mo can replace Ma. However i have not got root cause/main reason for this ......rather what i think is Mo can not be boss .....Please clarify or provide any means where should i look? ------------------ Regards, Devisingh Anup. M wrote:  Dear Devi singh ji,   My understanding is as per CAPS below.  Regards Anup --- On Wed, 11/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput > wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajput > Re: Re: Practice Chart Wednesday, 11 November, 2009, 6:30 PM  Dear Anup ji, Thank you ....for corrections on emails.....this will keep me on track and avoiding out of track. If Planets in navamsa have 4:10 relation we should not consider them samdharmi that is input for me. Below is my understanding related to samdharmi what is gathered upto 2000 emails of achieves.... .putting here so may be help full to other members as well please have a look and comment on them where requires...i have arranged them on priority basis please provides your valuable comment for them where required Planets making 4:10 in rashi (offcourse boss and subordinate analogy) YES All Planets cojoin in sign   NO Planet is samdharmi to Lord of nakshtra sign  YES All Planets in same nakshatra   YES All Planets cojoin in navamsa   YES Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa)    NO Planet is samdharmi to Lord navamsa sign     YES Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected)      NO If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra    NO Ra is samdharmi to sign lord and navamsa lord and planet cojoin in navamsa    YES Yes it is my mistake mo,ju,ma are not natural samdharmi as per KAS......Please forgive me i might done it knowingly but not intentionally In kalpurush chart ....looking 4:10 St and Ve are samdharmi to each other....can replace each other Su samdharmi to Ma...Su can replace Ma           YES Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO ------------ ------ Regards, Devisingh Anup. M wrote:  Dear Devi singh ji,   I think samdharmi concept is not clear somewhere in your mail  Pleae note that .. MOON AND JU ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI JU AND MARS ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI.  Also we do not consider 4:10 relation in navamsa.   Regards Anup  --- On Tue, 10/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com Tuesday, 10 November, 2009, 6:56 PM  Dear All; Some more thoughts to fix antra St full delay but st have moved 15 degree so considering 27.5-1.3=26. 3 year initial value Ju aspects Hb in navamsa but is is in libra with rahu in navamsa and in nakshtra of St so it can not check to saturn so full delay no help from Ju to reduce delay as staus of Ju is not good no zero in SAV so no addition in delay Blessing in navamsa but can not help to reduce delay St is with Ra in rashi so more affilicted add delay Mo aspected by Ra in rashi and St cojoin in navamsa ,As lumanaries are aspected so that will add delay Main dasha lord Mo is OK as karka to give 7th house events Mo-Mo Mo LoD and Natural Samdharmi to Ju can give event But I think this would not be case as some what delay have to be added Mo-Ma Ju and Ma both in cancer one in rasi and another in navamsa makes them samdharmi Ju and Ma both are natural samdharmi Ju and Ma 4:10 in rashi/navamsa Ju LoE and high point So Event can be in 3rd sector of it. Mo-Ra Ra represnts Su/Ve....considerin g more like Ve NK FK.... and cojoin Ju in navamsa so samdahrmi to Ju so Event can be in 3rd sector of it.......seems not wise choice still to me Mo-Ju Ju Can give Event in 3rd Sector on it will come up with more thought as gets educated to this system ------------ ------ Regards, Devisingh devisigh wrote: Dear Ash ji, Namaskar Sincere thanks for your words attitude intension and time. I am trying my all time what i can collect to study this system. I guess this can takes time may be 3year (less points till that time also indicate hardwork and busy for me) Will continue my attempt/doubts hope for comments from moderators for same. I am enjoying achieves thanks to Krushna,sanjay, Donna,Peter, Magritta and all very nice considering old time and situation. hope that will helps me to understand and utilize system and finally to absorb root or essence of system so other all system and vedic text can be clarified with same so better results can be obtained related to timing of events. Everybody is trying/pushing here only to help others using there own approach It is really appreciated GOD WILL HELP THEM WHO HELPED OTHERS Please find below is thought process/approach: I am taking acceptance that person is not mentally retired and birth details are correct no rectification required Quality of 7th house: checking Ju in Libra in rashi/navamsa. ....navamsa has that...it is RK,NRK and LoE..seems not good for marriage. checking Ve nakshatra in rashi...bharni. ...ok checking Su and Ve distance in rashi...less then 43...ok checking Ve is with Ra,St or aspect in rashi/navamsa. ....Ve is with St in navamsa....spoils Ve more checking LoA,LoB,LoC, LoD,LoE in rashi.....Ve, St..Mo,Ju checking planets with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ...Sa and Ju.....St is LoC and Ju is loE for 7th house and LoA for 5th house. checking Ra aspects on house in rashi/navamsa. ..9,12,2. .7,9,11.. 12th is HoE,2nd is HoA,9th is karak for HoA and HoC for child..7th is HB,11th is HC checking Ra aspects on planets in rashi and navamsa...Me, Su......Me 6th lord become more malefic and Su LoB for child case checking for planets with 6th/12th lord in rashi/navamsa. .... Ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord.....me is with ve in navamsa spoils ve. checking for aspects on house in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... checking for aspects on planets in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... cheking malefic aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....Ju with 5 points aspects to HoE,Ve with 6 points aspects to HB cheking benific aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....St with 2 points also LoC aspects to HB,HA and Mo aspects to HB Blessings,compatibi lity,DBCE, strong house,strong planets: as usual to be looked will look another time Finding significator: checking for 2nd lord in rashi......Ve is 2nd lord...Ve antra will bring more pain looking at 2,7,11 lords...ve and st....ve is with 6 points and st is with 2 points ....left st less points and left ve 2nd lord looking at 2,7,11 occupents ...me and su...me is with 7 points and su is with 4 points ...left su less points and left me 6th lord looking at 4,12 occupents... ju and ke(ju/ju)... so ju....ju is with 5 points ....considering ju ...left as in Libra and aspect malefic to HOE consider Reperesnter for Ra/Ke...Su,Ve/ Ju,Ju.... ..left Ra as alresdy left su and ve,left ke as already left ju looking at 4,12 lords....Mo, ju....considerin g moon as already left ju....mo may act......... still requires more time for me to finalise ------------ ------ Regards, Devisingh Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca wrote:  Dear Devisingh ji,  Very nice attempt. Please continue your chain of thought.  Try to find the antra that you think might give marriage. Just go upto antra.  So first compute the delay and there after start to think over the best possible period that u think can give the event.  However, do write your thinking process. That will help one figure out where you are going away or your confusion.  Well Done.  Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca  astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan dtimingevents@ . com] On Behalf Of devisigh Sent: Thursday November 5, 2009 6:42 AM To: astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com Subject: Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart   Dear All; My first attempt using KAS rules/techniques only 7th house marriage: selecting Mo main Dasha which is with FK Ve for 7th house Su and Ju seems significator from ws points for 7th house other planets aspects 7th house i left them Su is with Me which is 6th load makes Su samdharmi to 6th lord i left that Ju having highest points and also LoE now considering Ju only as strong significator which in RK and NRK and natural samdharmi to Mo which is LoD. Ju does not have sight on A/B/C and is LoE can gives results Thinking for samdharmi of Ju in navamsa Ju is with Ra ...makes Ju and Ra samdharmi Ra can be thought to facilitate results for 7th house matters ........still this takes time for me to finalize ------------ ------ Regards, Devisingh ashsam73 wrote:  Dear Nikhlesh ji, You are correct. It was a typo. It was good that I gave the degree of all planets so this mistake could be checked right in the begining. Thanks Nikhlesh ji. The date should be May 24th. 24th May 1979 4:10 AM 28N40 77E13 Sorry about that. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "nikhlesh mathur" <nikhleshmathur@ ....> wrote: > > > > Sub: 24th Feb 1979, 4.10 am, 28.N.40, 77.E.13 > Dear Ash ji, > > You said that Su is 9Ta31 for the above native. But a person born on the month of Feb cannot have his Sun in Taurus sign. It should be in Aquarius at this time. > > If other things are okay then I think the birth date is 24th May. > > Please confirm. > > Regards, > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:47:29 +0530 wrote > > > > Add to > this. > > > 6) When > can the native face health problems? > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca > > > > > > Ash's Corner [kas] > Monday October 26, 2009 > 12:18 AM > To: > 'astrologyandtiming events@grou ps.com' > Practice Chart > > > Dear > Group, > > > > This > lady has been posting charts in various lists for many years now. > > > > Here is > the chart > > > > 24th > Feb 1979 > > 4:10 AM > > 28N40 > > 77E13 > > > > From > what I gather, she had an affair or liked some guy that she wanted to > marry. I am not clear from her posts > that if she married the same guy or not. > Her parents were looking out for some proposals for her. > > > > If this > chart came blindly to you, can you predict the following. > > > > 1) > Marriage > > 2) > Child birth > > 3) > Marital Relations overall > > 4) > She has been complaining that relations are bad after marriage and > asked if she should go for divorce. > > 5) > Why she had affair or what are the yogs for that in this chart. > > > > > > > > > Planet > > > Degrees > > > > > As > > > 15 Ar 55 > > > > > Su > > > 9 Ta 31 > > > > > Mo > > > 13 Ar 48 > > > > > Ma > > > 13 Ar 8 > > > > > Me > > > 2 Ta 15 > > > > > Ju > > > 11 Cn 16 > > > > > Ve > > > 14 Ar 30 > > > > > Sa > > > 14 Le 35 > > > > > Ra > > > 20 Le 59 > > > > > Ke > > > 20 Aq 59 > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca >  The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. 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Guest guest Report post Posted November 12, 2009 Dear Devi singh ji, Just wait,i hope members over here will try to explain you regarding your confusions. Regards Anup --- On Thu, 12/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajputRe: Re: Practice Chart Date: Thursday, 12 November, 2009, 7:28 PM Dear Anup ji,It is really wondering for me.....something i guess incorrect in drafting/representa tion by me...let me try one more time in better way.....Please clarify CAPS...this is new to me?"2.All Planets cojoin in sign NO"By this i mean to say if two planets are in one sign in rashi chart ...for example ju and ma both are in Leo...both become samdharmi to each other....ma has low points so Ma can replace Ju "6.Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO"This is case where Ju is in Leo in rashi chart and Ma is in Leo in navamsa..... both are in Leo and become samdharmi"8.Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO"This is case where Ju with 5 point in Tarus and placed in 4th house....so LoD for 7th house is Ve and Ju can give result due to its placement so samdharmi to Ve ....can replace Ve"9.If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra NO"This is case Ju is with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ......and Ra represents Su/St......so Ju samdharmi to Su/St.....I Think this is my mistake we should not consider Ra as it does not have rulership of any sign"Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO"I think this is again not true as per your emails and lessons as well.......rather Mo natural samdharmi to Ma.......... ...Mo can replace Ma.However i have not got root cause/main reason for this ......rather what i think is Mo can not be boss .....Please clarify or provide any means where should i look?------------ ------ Regards, DevisinghAnup. M wrote: Dear Devi singh ji, My understanding is as per CAPS below. Regards Anup --- On Wed, 11/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com>Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chartastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comWednesday, 11 November, 2009, 6:30 PM Dear Anup ji,Thank you ....for corrections on emails.....this will keep me on track and avoiding out of track.If Planets in navamsa have 4:10 relation we should not consider them samdharmi that is input for me.Below is my understanding related to samdharmi what is gathered upto 2000 emails of achieves.... .putting here so may be help full to other members as well please have a look and comment on them where requires...i have arranged them on priority basis please provides your valuable comment for them where required Planets making 4:10 in rashi (offcourse boss and subordinate analogy) YES All Planets cojoin in sign NO Planet is samdharmi to Lord of nakshtra sign YES All Planets in same nakshatra YES All Planets cojoin in navamsa YES Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO Planet is samdharmi to Lord navamsa sign YES Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra NO Ra is samdharmi to sign lord and navamsa lord and planet cojoin in navamsa YESYes it is my mistake mo,ju,ma are not natural samdharmi as per KAS......Please forgive me i might done it knowingly but not intentionallyIn kalpurush chart ....looking 4:10St and Ve are samdharmi to each other....can replace each otherSu samdharmi to Ma...Su can replace Ma YESMa samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO------------ ------ Regards, DevisinghAnup. M wrote: Dear Devi singh ji, I think samdharmi concept is not clear somewhere in your mail Pleae note that .. MOON AND JU ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI JU AND MARS ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI. Also we do not consider 4:10 relation in navamsa. Regards Anup --- On Tue, 10/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com>Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chartastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comTuesday, 10 November, 2009, 6:56 PM Dear All;Some more thoughts to fix antraSt full delay but st have moved 15 degree so considering 27.5-1.3=26. 3 year initial valueJu aspects Hb in navamsa but is is in libra with rahu in navamsa and in nakshtra of St so it can not check to saturn so full delay no help from Ju to reduce delay as staus of Ju is not goodno zero in SAV so no addition in delayBlessing in navamsa but can not help to reduce delaySt is with Ra in rashi so more affilicted add delayMo aspected by Ra in rashi and St cojoin in navamsa ,As lumanaries are aspected so that will add delay Main dasha lord Mo is OK as karka to give 7th house eventsMo-MoMo LoD and Natural Samdharmi to Ju can give eventBut I think this would not be case as some what delay have to be addedMo-MaJu and Ma both in cancer one in rasi and another in navamsa makes them samdharmiJu and Ma both are natural samdharmiJu and Ma 4:10 in rashi/navamsaJu LoE and high point So Event can be in 3rd sector of it.Mo-RaRa represnts Su/Ve....considerin g more like Ve NK FK.... and cojoin Ju in navamsa so samdahrmi to Ju so Event can be in 3rd sector of it.......seems not wise choice still to meMo-JuJu Can give Event in 3rd Sector on itwill come up with more thought as gets educated to this system------------ ------ Regards, Devisinghdevisigh wrote: Dear Ash ji,NamaskarSincere thanks for your words attitude intension and time. I am trying my all time what i can collect to study this system. I guess this can takes time may be 3year (less points till that time also indicate hardwork and busy for me) Will continue my attempt/doubts hope for comments from moderators for same.I am enjoying achieves thanks to Krushna,sanjay, Donna,Peter, Magritta and all very nice considering old time and situation.hope that will helps me to understand and utilize system and finally to absorb root or essence of system so other all system and vedic text can be clarified with same so better results can be obtained related to timing of events.Everybody is trying/pushing here only to help others using there own approach It is really appreciated GOD WILL HELP THEM WHO HELPED OTHERSPlease find below is thought process/approach:I am taking acceptance that person is not mentally retired and birth details are correct no rectification requiredQuality of 7th house: checking Ju in Libra in rashi/navamsa. ...navamsa has that...it is RK,NRK and LoE..seems not good for marriage. checking Ve nakshatra in rashi...bharni. ..ok checking Su and Ve distance in rashi...less then 43...ok checking Ve is with Ra,St or aspect in rashi/navamsa. ....Ve is with St in navamsa....spoils Ve more checking LoA,LoB,LoC, LoD,LoE in rashi.....Ve, St..Mo,Ju checking planets with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ..Sa and Ju.....St is LoC and Ju is loE for 7th house and LoA for 5th house. checking Ra aspects on house in rashi/navamsa. ..9,12,2. .7,9,11.. 12th is HoE,2nd is HoA,9th is karak for HoA and HoC for child..7th is HB,11th is HC checking Ra aspects on planets in rashi and navamsa...Me, Su......Me 6th lord become more malefic and Su LoB for child case checking for planets with 6th/12th lord in rashi/navamsa. .... Ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord.....me is with ve in navamsa spoils ve. checking for aspects on house in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... checking for aspects on planets in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... cheking malefic aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....Ju with 5 points aspects to HoE,Ve with 6 points aspects to HB cheking benific aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....St with 2 points also LoC aspects to HB,HA and Mo aspects to HBBlessings,compatibi lity,DBCE, strong house,strong planets: as usual to be looked will look another timeFinding significator: checking for 2nd lord in rashi......Ve is 2nd lord...Ve antra will bring more pain looking at 2,7,11 lords...ve and st....ve is with 6 points and st is with 2 points ....left st less points and left ve 2nd lord looking at 2,7,11 occupents ...me and su...me is with 7 points and su is with 4 points ...left su less points and left me 6th lord looking at 4,12 occupents... ju and ke(ju/ju)... so ju....ju is with 5 points ....considering ju ...left as in Libra and aspect malefic to HOE consider Reperesnter for Ra/Ke...Su,Ve/ Ju,Ju.... ..left Ra as alresdy left su and ve,left ke as already left ju looking at 4,12 lords....Mo, ju....considerin g moon as already left ju....mo may act......... still requires more time for me to finalise------------ ------ Regards, DevisinghAsh's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca wrote: Dear Devisingh ji, Very nice attempt. Please continue your chain of thought. Try to find the antra that you think might give marriage. Just go upto antra. So first compute the delay and there after start to think over the best possible period that u think can give the event. However, do write your thinking process. That will help one figure out where you are going away or your confusion. Well Done. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan dtimingevents] On Behalf Of devisighThursday November 5, 2009 6:42 AMastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comRe: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart Dear All;My first attempt using KAS rules/techniques only7th house marriage:selecting Mo main Dasha which is with FK Ve for 7th houseSu and Ju seems significator from ws points for 7th houseother planets aspects 7th house i left themSu is with Me which is 6th load makes Su samdharmi to 6th lord i left thatJu having highest points and also LoEnow considering Ju only as strong significator which in RK and NRK and natural samdharmi to Mo which is LoD.Ju does not have sight on A/B/C and is LoE can gives resultsThinking for samdharmi of Juin navamsa Ju is with Ra ...makes Ju and Ra samdharmi Ra can be thought to facilitate results for 7th house matters .......still this takes time for me to finalize------------ ------ Regards, Devisinghashsam73 wrote: Dear Nikhlesh ji,You are correct. It was a typo. It was good that I gave the degree of all planets so this mistake could be checked right in the begining.Thanks Nikhlesh ji.The date should be May 24th.24th May 19794:10 AM28N4077E13Sorry about that.Cheers !!!Ash -> http://www.ashtro. caastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "nikhlesh mathur" <nikhleshmathur@ ...> wrote:>> > > Sub: 24th Feb 1979, 4.10 am, 28.N.40, 77.E.13> Dear Ash ji,> > You said that Su is 9Ta31 for the above native. But a person born on the month of Feb cannot have his Sun in Taurus sign. It should be in Aquarius at this time.> > If other things are okay then I think the birth date is 24th May.> > Please confirm.> > Regards,> Nikhlesh Mathur> > > On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:47:29 +0530 wrote> >> > Add to> this.> > > 6) When> can the native face health problems?> > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca> > > > > > Ash's Corner [kas] > Monday October 26, 2009> 12:18 AM> To:> 'astrologyandtiming events@grou ps.com'> Practice Chart> > > Dear> Group,> > > > This> lady has been posting charts in various lists for many years now. > > > > Here is> the chart > > > > 24th> Feb 1979> > 4:10 AM> > 28N40> > 77E13> > > > From> what I gather, she had an affair or liked some guy that she wanted to> marry. I am not clear from her posts> that if she married the same guy or not.> Her parents were looking out for some proposals for her.> > > > If this> chart came blindly to you, can you predict the following.> > > > 1)> Marriage> > 2)> Child birth> > 3)> Marital Relations overall> > 4)> She has been complaining that relations are bad after marriage and> asked if she should go for divorce.> > 5)> Why she had affair or what are the yogs for that in this chart. > > > > > > > > > Planet> > > Degrees> > > > > As> > > 15 Ar 55> > > > > Su> > > 9 Ta 31> > > > > Mo> > > 13 Ar 48> > > > > Ma> > > 13 Ar 8> > > > > Me> > > 2 Ta 15> > > > > Ju> > > 11 Cn 16> > > > > Ve> > > 14 Ar 30> > > > > Sa> > > 14 Le 35> > > > > Ra> > > 20 Le 59> > > > > Ke> > > 20 Aq 59> > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca> The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. 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Guest guest Report post Posted November 12, 2009 Dear Harpreet ji, Please you also join in and try to make an attempt. This is a wonderful opportunity for learning. So try to attempt the questions asked in the original mail and share your thoughts and your opinions. It will be a good ground for hashing them out with one another. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Kirat Har Thursday November 12, 2009 1:38 AM To: Re: Re: Practice Chart Dear Shalini ji and group I m reading all ur discussions on this chart since last few days, i want to know one thng that when 6th lord Mer..is situated in 2nd house,so the karak sthan is spoiled , the marrg ll happn in the antra of low points.so Rahu will furnish this..This is as per my understanding. I may b wrong ,please correct me.. Regards Harpreet --- On Wed, 11/11/09, shalini <shalini3004 wrote: shalini <shalini3004 Re: Practice Chart Wednesday, 11 November, 2009, 9:49 PM Dear Anup Ji and group, Yes, I mentioned in my first analysis that I know I was going to learn a lot from this chart! When Ash Ji cleared the 'affair " mis-understanding I had and his questions to me on Guru (in 4h..), I began to see things differently. I have so much to learn!! With Kind Regards, Shalini astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, " Anup. M " <dalh_1 wrote: > > Dear Shaliniji and group, >  >  >  > Thats why with due course of time we learn and we never forget > this process. Next time when some other chart will be given,you start > looking with different aspect. >  > Which antra is feasible and more appropriate, members are striving > but everyone seems to be on right track by one way or other. >  >  > As we all know our KAS rules are fixed so is WS for timing event. > We can make mistakes while understanding but this is always there, >  > Its something not an easy task to fix antras in the span of 6 years > which comprises delay and then following antras of Moon,Ma,Ra,Ju and > Sa. >  > Think more.... the things are becoming crystal clear slowly ! >  > Ohh i am late for my office too. >  >  > Regards > Anup >  >  >  >  >  > --- On Thu, 12/11/09, shalini <shalini3004@ ...> wrote: > > > shalini <shalini3004@ ...> > [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > Thursday, 12 November, 2009, 6:01 AM > > >  > > > > Dear Ash Ji,Anup Ji,Hussein ji, Bella Ji, Nikhlesh Ji, and List Members, > > I think we can then say that Jupiter has given marriage. My next question is, was this a love marriage? Can Jupiter give her a love marriage?? My Thoughts for (5h); Jupiter is LoA, is SD to Saturn who is LoE in HB, SD to Venus who is LoD. Jupiter gives low points in SAV for 5h, but is high for 4h which becomes LoD for 7H (Ash Ji your questions on Guru to me is guiding me here let me know if I am on the rigth track)Thus becoming eager to give marriage, but I believe not love marriage. Moreover, Mercury is 6L and if 6L connects with 2H or 10H it denies love marriage Mercury is in 2h LoD for 5h and SD to Saturn LoE for 5h, however I think since Jupiter is in HE for 11H conception, she could have conceived in this antra and could have had problems with the pregnancy that could have led to health problems that could have started in Jupiter only due to conception but escalate in Saturn antra. Jupiter has low points for 6H, but Saturn has high points for 6H. So > then, it is also possible that her problems get better in Satrun antra as Saturn has high points and is LoE. Look forward to everyone's thoughts. > Thank You Ash Ji for you questions on Guru I am still thinking on them and hope to cover them more in depth with you and group soon. > > With Kind Regards, > > Shalini > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, " BPShiv " <chandni_99@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Hussein ji, > > > > Yes you are correct. Due to the poor quality marriage should have happened during the lower power planet or 6th Lo and therefore, I was sticking with Ra antra which was a possibility after delay. > > > > But I am trying to debate myself with different antras and see the pros and cons. What if Ra antra didn't give her the marriage. As delay is the max. Full delay from Sa. Sa in the 5th and Ju in Li. Also, DBCE points are high. Keeping other factors in mind delay could be extened to Ju antra. > > > > Then, > > I thinking of Ju antra as Ju is very very strong for timing. So it could give the result but because overall quality is nil and Ju being in Li, both karaks spoilt, NK and FK in 12th from its own. 6th Lo in karaksthan. Ve with Sa in navamsa and with Ma in Rasi and Sa with Mo in navamsa and aspects Su in Rasi...all these are indirect pointers to separation when the overall quality of the chart from Lagna, Su Mo and Ve is zero. Now if the 2nd Hs is spoilt or 2nd Lo is spoilt it leads to multiple marriages/relations hips. > > > > Therefore, if Ju gives marriage, then after that comes Sa antra. Sa is LoD for the 2nd Hs with highest points in the WS could give a break. Now that being said, as mentioned earlier these are few pointers of separation that I was seeing (I still have to hass it out with Nikhlesh ji on this topic of separation) > > > > > > Of course, like Nikhlesh ji said, for divorce male and female, both the charts have to be viewed but here we only have her data, we are not saying anything concrete but can say that there is a possibility. Now if we have the other person's chart to compare and overall chart quality is excellent and meets all the compatability aspects like Ma, Ve and so forth. has blessings than all this factors will change and will prevent the break. > > > > > > > > Followed by Sa antra comes Me antra which is 6th Lo. These antras are not going to help her stabilize marriage. > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > -Bella. > > > > > > - > > Hussein > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > Wednesday, November 11, 2009 10:33 AM > > [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart > > > > > > > > Dear Bella ji > > > > We should consider the nature of the marriage.Here marriage is unhappy,then I think it can't take place > > > > in antra of Ju. > > > > Best Wishes > > > > Hussein > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, " BPShiv " <chandni_99@ > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > Ju antra seems to be very strong for the event. > > > > > > One more addition. This Ju is triggering 7th Hs and 12th Hs. It's LoE for 7th with high bindus sitting in Hs D. and LoD for 12th Hs. Also has highest power in WS for 7th Hs and also good points for 12th Hs. > > > > > > With the prolonged delay and Ju being in Li, I would say the third sector which is Jun 2008 - Nov 2008. > > > > > > Thank you, > > > -Bella. > > > > > > > > > - > > > BPShiv > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > Wednesday, November 11, 2009 6:30 AM > > > Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Practice Chart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prabha ji, > > > > > > Could be very well possible that the native is still unmarried maybe due to carreer related matters but again here is my thoughts if she is already married: > > > > > > Karaks are spoilt and delay is lengthy therefore, even if Ra antra didn't give her the marriage, Ju followed by Ra seems to be very powerful. > > > > > > As far as quality, Ju is spoilt but for the timing, Ju is LoE and also with more bindus sitting in Hs D making it very eager to give the result, which should be Jul 2007 - Nov 2008. > > > > > > Thank you, > > > -Bella. > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > prabha > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > Wednesday, November 11, 2009 4:33 AM > > > [astrologyandtiming events] Practice Chart > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members > > > DOB: 24 May 1979; TOB: 4.13 am; POB: 28N40, 77E13 > > > > > > In this chart: > > > 1. The NK/FK, Ve is spoiled as it is in 12th house from itself. > > > 2. 6th lord, Me is in HoA. > > > 3. Ju, the Root Karak is in Libra. > > > 4. Ve is in Leo in D9 - and Su is with Me[6th lord] in HoA. > > > 5. Even with 12th house as HoB, both Karak and Root Karak is spoiled by the aspect/conjunction of Sa and both are posited in 12th from its house. > > > Therefore I have a feeling that this native may not have got married. > > > Thanks > > > Prabha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/ > From cricket scores to your friends. Try the India Homepage! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 12, 2009  Dear Devi Singh ji, Please refer to Message #20953 for the recent clarification by Ash ji. Very good information. -Bella. - devisigh Thursday, November 12, 2009 7:58 AM Re: Re: Practice Chart Dear Anup ji,It is really wondering for me.....something i guess incorrect in drafting/representation by me...let me try one more time in better way.....Please clarify CAPS...this is new to me?"2.All Planets cojoin in sign NO"By this i mean to say if two planets are in one sign in rashi chart ...for example ju and ma both are in Leo...both become samdharmi to each other....ma has low points so Ma can replace Ju "6.Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO"This is case where Ju is in Leo in rashi chart and Ma is in Leo in navamsa.....both are in Leo and become samdharmi"8.Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO"This is case where Ju with 5 point in Tarus and placed in 4th house....so LoD for 7th house is Ve and Ju can give result due to its placement so samdharmi to Ve ....can replace Ve"9.If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra NO"This is case Ju is with Ra in rashi/navamsa.......and Ra represents Su/St......so Ju samdharmi to Su/St.....I Think this is my mistake we should not consider Ra as it does not have rulership of any sign"Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO"I think this is again not true as per your emails and lessons as well.......rather Mo natural samdharmi to Ma.............Mo can replace Ma.However i have not got root cause/main reason for this ......rather what i think is Mo can not be boss .....Please clarify or provide any means where should i look?------------------ Regards, DevisinghAnup. M wrote: Dear Devi singh ji, My understanding is as per CAPS below. Regards Anup --- On Wed, 11/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput > wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajput >Re: Re: Practice Chart Date: Wednesday, 11 November, 2009, 6:30 PM Dear Anup ji,Thank you ....for corrections on emails.....this will keep me on track and avoiding out of track.If Planets in navamsa have 4:10 relation we should not consider them samdharmi that is input for me.Below is my understanding related to samdharmi what is gathered upto 2000 emails of achieves.... .putting here so may be help full to other members as well please have a look and comment on them where requires...i have arranged them on priority basis please provides your valuable comment for them where required Planets making 4:10 in rashi (offcourse boss and subordinate analogy) YES All Planets cojoin in sign NO Planet is samdharmi to Lord of nakshtra sign YES All Planets in same nakshatra YES All Planets cojoin in navamsa YES Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO Planet is samdharmi to Lord navamsa sign YES Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra NO Ra is samdharmi to sign lord and navamsa lord and planet cojoin in navamsa YESYes it is my mistake mo,ju,ma are not natural samdharmi as per KAS......Please forgive me i might done it knowingly but not intentionallyIn kalpurush chart ....looking 4:10St and Ve are samdharmi to each other....can replace each otherSu samdharmi to Ma...Su can replace Ma YESMa samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO------------ ------ Regards, DevisinghAnup. M wrote: Dear Devi singh ji, I think samdharmi concept is not clear somewhere in your mail Pleae note that .. MOON AND JU ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI JU AND MARS ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI. Also we do not consider 4:10 relation in navamsa. Regards Anup --- On Tue, 10/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com>Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chartastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comTuesday, 10 November, 2009, 6:56 PM Dear All;Some more thoughts to fix antraSt full delay but st have moved 15 degree so considering 27.5-1.3=26. 3 year initial valueJu aspects Hb in navamsa but is is in libra with rahu in navamsa and in nakshtra of St so it can not check to saturn so full delay no help from Ju to reduce delay as staus of Ju is not goodno zero in SAV so no addition in delayBlessing in navamsa but can not help to reduce delaySt is with Ra in rashi so more affilicted add delayMo aspected by Ra in rashi and St cojoin in navamsa ,As lumanaries are aspected so that will add delay Main dasha lord Mo is OK as karka to give 7th house eventsMo-MoMo LoD and Natural Samdharmi to Ju can give eventBut I think this would not be case as some what delay have to be addedMo-MaJu and Ma both in cancer one in rasi and another in navamsa makes them samdharmiJu and Ma both are natural samdharmiJu and Ma 4:10 in rashi/navamsaJu LoE and high point So Event can be in 3rd sector of it.Mo-RaRa represnts Su/Ve....considerin g more like Ve NK FK.... and cojoin Ju in navamsa so samdahrmi to Ju so Event can be in 3rd sector of it.......seems not wise choice still to meMo-JuJu Can give Event in 3rd Sector on itwill come up with more thought as gets educated to this system------------ ------ Regards, Devisinghdevisigh wrote: Dear Ash ji,NamaskarSincere thanks for your words attitude intension and time. I am trying my all time what i can collect to study this system. I guess this can takes time may be 3year (less points till that time also indicate hardwork and busy for me) Will continue my attempt/doubts hope for comments from moderators for same.I am enjoying achieves thanks to Krushna,sanjay, Donna,Peter, Magritta and all very nice considering old time and situation.hope that will helps me to understand and utilize system and finally to absorb root or essence of system so other all system and vedic text can be clarified with same so better results can be obtained related to timing of events.Everybody is trying/pushing here only to help others using there own approach It is really appreciated GOD WILL HELP THEM WHO HELPED OTHERSPlease find below is thought process/approach:I am taking acceptance that person is not mentally retired and birth details are correct no rectification requiredQuality of 7th house: checking Ju in Libra in rashi/navamsa. ...navamsa has that...it is RK,NRK and LoE..seems not good for marriage. checking Ve nakshatra in rashi...bharni. ..ok checking Su and Ve distance in rashi...less then 43...ok checking Ve is with Ra,St or aspect in rashi/navamsa. ....Ve is with St in navamsa....spoils Ve more checking LoA,LoB,LoC, LoD,LoE in rashi.....Ve, St..Mo,Ju checking planets with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ..Sa and Ju.....St is LoC and Ju is loE for 7th house and LoA for 5th house. checking Ra aspects on house in rashi/navamsa. ..9,12,2. .7,9,11.. 12th is HoE,2nd is HoA,9th is karak for HoA and HoC for child..7th is HB,11th is HC checking Ra aspects on planets in rashi and navamsa...Me, Su......Me 6th lord become more malefic and Su LoB for child case checking for planets with 6th/12th lord in rashi/navamsa. .... Ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord.....me is with ve in navamsa spoils ve. checking for aspects on house in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... checking for aspects on planets in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... cheking malefic aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....Ju with 5 points aspects to HoE,Ve with 6 points aspects to HB cheking benific aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....St with 2 points also LoC aspects to HB,HA and Mo aspects to HB Blessings,compatibi lity,DBCE, strong house,strong planets: as usual to be looked will look another time Finding significator: checking for 2nd lord in rashi......Ve is 2nd lord...Ve antra will bring more pain looking at 2,7,11 lords...ve and st....ve is with 6 points and st is with 2 points ....left st less points and left ve 2nd lord looking at 2,7,11 occupents ...me and su...me is with 7 points and su is with 4 points ...left su less points and left me 6th lord looking at 4,12 occupents... ju and ke(ju/ju)... so ju....ju is with 5 points ....considering ju ...left as in Libra and aspect malefic to HOE consider Reperesnter for Ra/Ke...Su,Ve/ Ju,Ju.... ..left Ra as alresdy left su and ve,left ke as already left ju looking at 4,12 lords....Mo, ju....considerin g moon as already left ju....mo may act......... still requires more time for me to finalise------------ ------ Regards, DevisinghAsh's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca wrote: Dear Devisingh ji, Very nice attempt. Please continue your chain of thought. Try to find the antra that you think might give marriage. Just go upto antra. So first compute the delay and there after start to think over the best possible period that u think can give the event. However, do write your thinking process. That will help one figure out where you are going away or your confusion. Well Done. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan dtimingevents] On Behalf Of devisighThursday November 5, 2009 6:42 AMastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comRe: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart Dear All;My first attempt using KAS rules/techniques only7th house marriage:selecting Mo main Dasha which is with FK Ve for 7th houseSu and Ju seems significator from ws points for 7th houseother planets aspects 7th house i left themSu is with Me which is 6th load makes Su samdharmi to 6th lord i left thatJu having highest points and also LoEnow considering Ju only as strong significator which in RK and NRK and natural samdharmi to Mo which is LoD.Ju does not have sight on A/B/C and is LoE can gives resultsThinking for samdharmi of Juin navamsa Ju is with Ra ...makes Ju and Ra samdharmi Ra can be thought to facilitate results for 7th house matters .......still this takes time for me to finalize------------ ------ Regards, Devisinghashsam73 wrote: Dear Nikhlesh ji,You are correct. It was a typo. It was good that I gave the degree of all planets so this mistake could be checked right in the begining.Thanks Nikhlesh ji.The date should be May 24th.24th May 19794:10 AM28N4077E13Sorry about that.Cheers !!!Ash -> http://www.ashtro. caastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "nikhlesh mathur" <nikhleshmathur@ ...> wrote:>> > > Sub: 24th Feb 1979, 4.10 am, 28.N.40, 77.E.13> Dear Ash ji,> > You said that Su is 9Ta31 for the above native. But a person born on the month of Feb cannot have his Sun in Taurus sign. It should be in Aquarius at this time.> > If other things are okay then I think the birth date is 24th May.> > Please confirm.> > Regards,> Nikhlesh Mathur> > > On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:47:29 +0530 wrote> >> > Add to> this.> > > 6) When> can the native face health problems?> > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca> > > > > > Ash's Corner [kas] > Monday October 26, 2009> 12:18 AM> To:> 'astrologyandtiming events@grou ps.com'> Practice Chart> > > Dear> Group,> > > > This> lady has been posting charts in various lists for many years now. > > > > Here is> the chart > > > > 24th> Feb 1979> > 4:10 AM> > 28N40> > 77E13> > > > From> what I gather, she had an affair or liked some guy that she wanted to> marry. I am not clear from her posts> that if she married the same guy or not.> Her parents were looking out for some proposals for her.> > > > If this> chart came blindly to you, can you predict the following.> > > > 1)> Marriage> > 2)> Child birth> > 3)> Marital Relations overall> > 4)> She has been complaining that relations are bad after marriage and> asked if she should go for divorce.> > 5)> Why she had affair or what are the yogs for that in this chart. > > > > > > > > > Planet> > > Degrees> > > > > As> > > 15 Ar 55> > > > > Su> > > 9 Ta 31> > > > > Mo> > > 13 Ar 48> > > > > Ma> > > 13 Ar 8> > > > > Me> > > 2 Ta 15> > > > > Ju> > > 11 Cn 16> > > > > Ve> > > 14 Ar 30> > > > > Sa> > > 14 Le 35> > > > > Ra> > > 20 Le 59> > > > > Ke> > > 20 Aq 59> > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca> The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 12, 2009 Dear Harpeet Ji, Even I am learning, Ash Ji has requested we look at all possibilities that according to KAS laws can furnish the events he has given. My understanding is this, in my original post I had said I was in dual mind between Rahu and Moon to give marriage, because when Ash Ji mentioned affairs I had incorrectly assumed the affair(s) was after marriage this thinking would change everything as I think her affair/relationship would be Rahu antra, so assuming affairs after marriage I gave moon as marriage antra but affair is before marriage so this is not possible I believe. If we take 5H for Love relations we find for Rahu antra who is represented by Sun/Ve is SD to Ve/Ju. Venus is LoD and has highest points in SAV for 5H. Rahu is in 5H itself I believe Rahu can give her an affair, but break in Jupiter. (Please, take a look at the questions Ash ji has asked me on Guru). Here Guru is in 4H (with 5 bindus) which is 12h for HB. If we focus on 12h as HB then Jupiter becomes LoB, LoD in HC Jupiter is SD to Saturn who is in HE and Venus who is LoA, therefore I believe that Jupiter antra can break her affair. The other question was her health problems I think we all agree that her health problems are related to conception/childbirth. As I mentioned that Jupiter is positioned to give conception. Now, looking at the chart if we focus on 6h which would be loss of 11h( conception),for 6h jupiter has low points so it should not give 6h results which are health problem, or loss of child. Then Jupiter cannot give health problems Saturn can. This is my understanding, however I am learning as well. With Kind Regards, Shalini , Kirat Har <kirat_29 wrote: > > > Dear Shalini ji and group >  > I m reading all ur discussions on this chart since last few days, i want to know one thng that when 6th lord Mer..is situated in 2nd house,so the karak sthan is spoiled , the marrg ll happn in the antra of low points.so Rahu will furnish this..This is as per my understanding. > I may b wrong ,please correct me.. >  > Regards > Harpreet > > --- On Wed, 11/11/09, shalini <shalini3004 wrote: > > > shalini <shalini3004 > Re: Practice Chart > > Wednesday, 11 November, 2009, 9:49 PM > > >  > > > > Dear Anup Ji and group, > > Yes, I mentioned in my first analysis that I know I was going to learn a lot from this chart! When Ash Ji cleared the 'affair " mis-understanding I had and his questions to me on Guru (in 4h..), I began to see things differently. I have so much to learn!! > > With Kind Regards, > > Shalini > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, " Anup. M " <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > Dear Shaliniji and group, > >  > >  > >  > > Thats why with due course of time we learn and we never forget > > this process. Next time when some other chart will be given,you start > > looking with different aspect. > >  > > Which antra is feasible and more appropriate, members are striving > > but everyone seems to be on right track by one way or other. > >  > >  > > As we all know our KAS rules are fixed so is WS for timing event. > > We can make mistakes while understanding but this is always there, > >  > > Its something not an easy task to fix antras in the span of 6 years > > which comprises delay and then following antras of Moon,Ma,Ra,Ju and > > Sa. > >  > > Think more.... the things are becoming crystal clear slowly ! > >  > > Ohh i am late for my office too. > >  > >  > > Regards > > Anup > >  > >  > >  > >  > >  > > --- On Thu, 12/11/09, shalini <shalini3004@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > shalini <shalini3004@ ...> > > [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > Thursday, 12 November, 2009, 6:01 AM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > Dear Ash Ji,Anup Ji,Hussein ji, Bella Ji, Nikhlesh Ji, and List Members, > > > > I think we can then say that Jupiter has given marriage. My next question is, was this a love marriage? Can Jupiter give her a love marriage?? My Thoughts for (5h); Jupiter is LoA, is SD to Saturn who is LoE in HB, SD to Venus who is LoD. Jupiter gives low points in SAV for 5h, but is high for 4h which becomes LoD for 7H (Ash Ji your questions on Guru to me is guiding me here let me know if I am on the rigth track)Thus becoming eager to give marriage, but I believe not love marriage. Moreover, Mercury is 6L and if 6L connects with 2H or 10H it denies love marriage Mercury is in 2h LoD for 5h and SD to Saturn LoE for 5h, however I think since Jupiter is in HE for 11H conception, she could have conceived in this antra and could have had problems with the pregnancy that could have led to health problems that could have started in Jupiter only due to conception but escalate in Saturn antra. Jupiter has low points for 6H, but Saturn has high points for 6H. > So > > then, it is also possible that her problems get better in Satrun antra as Saturn has high points and is LoE. Look forward to everyone's thoughts. > > Thank You Ash Ji for you questions on Guru I am still thinking on them and hope to cover them more in depth with you and group soon. > > > > With Kind Regards, > > > > Shalini > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, " BPShiv " <chandni_99@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Hussein ji, > > > > > > Yes you are correct. Due to the poor quality marriage should have happened during the lower power planet or 6th Lo and therefore, I was sticking with Ra antra which was a possibility after delay. > > > > > > But I am trying to debate myself with different antras and see the pros and cons. What if Ra antra didn't give her the marriage. As delay is the max. Full delay from Sa. Sa in the 5th and Ju in Li. Also, DBCE points are high. Keeping other factors in mind delay could be extened to Ju antra. > > > > > > Then, > > > I thinking of Ju antra as Ju is very very strong for timing. So it could give the result but because overall quality is nil and Ju being in Li, both karaks spoilt, NK and FK in 12th from its own. 6th Lo in karaksthan. Ve with Sa in navamsa and with Ma in Rasi and Sa with Mo in navamsa and aspects Su in Rasi...all these are indirect pointers to separation when the overall quality of the chart from Lagna, Su Mo and Ve is zero. Now if the 2nd Hs is spoilt or 2nd Lo is spoilt it leads to multiple marriages/relations hips. > > > > > > Therefore, if Ju gives marriage, then after that comes Sa antra. Sa is LoD for the 2nd Hs with highest points in the WS could give a break. Now that being said, as mentioned earlier these are few pointers of separation that I was seeing (I still have to hass it out with Nikhlesh ji on this topic of separation) > > > > > > > > > Of course, like Nikhlesh ji said, for divorce male and female, both the charts have to be viewed but here we only have her data, we are not saying anything concrete but can say that there is a possibility. Now if we have the other person's chart to compare and overall chart quality is excellent and meets all the compatability aspects like Ma, Ve and so forth. has blessings than all this factors will change and will prevent the break. > > > > > > > > > > > > Followed by Sa antra comes Me antra which is 6th Lo. These antras are not going to help her stabilize marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > -Bella. > > > > > > > > > - > > > Hussein > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > Wednesday, November 11, 2009 10:33 AM > > > [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bella ji > > > > > > We should consider the nature of the marriage.Here marriage is unhappy,then I think it can't take place > > > > > > in antra of Ju. > > > > > > Best Wishes > > > > > > Hussein > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, " BPShiv " <chandni_99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > > > Ju antra seems to be very strong for the event. > > > > > > > > One more addition. This Ju is triggering 7th Hs and 12th Hs. It's LoE for 7th with high bindus sitting in Hs D. and LoD for 12th Hs. Also has highest power in WS for 7th Hs and also good points for 12th Hs. > > > > > > > > With the prolonged delay and Ju being in Li, I would say the third sector which is Jun 2008 - Nov 2008. > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > -Bella. > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > BPShiv > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > > Wednesday, November 11, 2009 6:30 AM > > > > Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Practice Chart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prabha ji, > > > > > > > > Could be very well possible that the native is still unmarried maybe due to carreer related matters but again here is my thoughts if she is already married: > > > > > > > > Karaks are spoilt and delay is lengthy therefore, even if Ra antra didn't give her the marriage, Ju followed by Ra seems to be very powerful. > > > > > > > > As far as quality, Ju is spoilt but for the timing, Ju is LoE and also with more bindus sitting in Hs D making it very eager to give the result, which should be Jul 2007 - Nov 2008. > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > -Bella. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > prabha > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > > Wednesday, November 11, 2009 4:33 AM > > > > [astrologyandtiming events] Practice Chart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members > > > > DOB: 24 May 1979; TOB: 4.13 am; POB: 28N40, 77E13 > > > > > > > > In this chart: > > > > 1. The NK/FK, Ve is spoiled as it is in 12th house from itself. > > > > 2. 6th lord, Me is in HoA. > > > > 3. Ju, the Root Karak is in Libra. > > > > 4. Ve is in Leo in D9 - and Su is with Me[6th lord] in HoA. > > > > 5. Even with 12th house as HoB, both Karak and Root Karak is spoiled by the aspect/conjunction of Sa and both are posited in 12th from its house. > > > > Therefore I have a feeling that this native may not have got married. > > > > Thanks > > > > Prabha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/ > > > > > Now, send attachments up to 25MB with India Mail. Learn how. http://in.overview.mail./photos > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 12, 2009 Dear Ash ji , Thanks a lott for your encouragement and the inspiring words.Definitely i ll try my level best to come upto the expectation level of everybody here. please guide me where evr i need it most. Regards harpreet--- On Thu, 12/11/09, Ash's Corner <kas wrote: Ash's Corner <kasRE: Re: Practice Chart Date: Thursday, 12 November, 2009, 7:30 AM Dear Harpreet ji, Please you also join in and try to make an attempt. This is a wonderful opportunity for learning. So try to attempt the questions asked in the original mail and share your thoughts and your opinions. It will be a good ground for hashing them out with one another. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan dtimingevents] On Behalf Of Kirat HarThursday November 12, 2009 1:38 AMastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comRe: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart Dear Shalini ji and group I m reading all ur discussions on this chart since last few days, i want to know one thng that when 6th lord Mer..is situated in 2nd house,so the karak sthan is spoiled , the marrg ll happn in the antra of low points.so Rahu will furnish this..This is as per my understanding. I may b wrong ,please correct me.. Regards Harpreet --- On Wed, 11/11/09, shalini <shalini3004@ > wrote: shalini <shalini3004@ >[astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chartastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comWednesday, 11 November, 2009, 9:49 PM Dear Anup Ji and group,Yes, I mentioned in my first analysis that I know I was going to learn a lot from this chart! When Ash Ji cleared the 'affair" mis-understanding I had and his questions to me on Guru (in 4h..), I began to see things differently. I have so much to learn!!With Kind Regards,Shaliniastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "Anup. M" <dalh_1 wrote:>> Dear Shaliniji and group,>  >  >  > Thats why with due course of time we learn and we never forget > this process. Next time when some other chart will be given,you start> looking with different aspect.>  > Which antra is feasible and more appropriate, members are striving> but everyone seems to be on right track by one way or other.>  >  > As we all know our KAS rules are fixed so is WS for timing event.> We can make mistakes while understanding but this is always there,>  > Its something not an easy task to fix antras in the span of 6 years> which comprises delay and then following antras of Moon,Ma,Ra,Ju and > Sa.>  > Think more.... the things are becoming crystal clear slowly !>  > Ohh i am late for my office too.>  >  > Regards> Anup>  >  >  >  >  > --- On Thu, 12/11/09, shalini <shalini3004@ ...> wrote:> > > shalini <shalini3004@ ...>> [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> Thursday, 12 November, 2009, 6:01 AM> > >  > > > > Dear Ash Ji,Anup Ji,Hussein ji, Bella Ji, Nikhlesh Ji, and List Members,> > I think we can then say that Jupiter has given marriage. My next question is, was this a love marriage? Can Jupiter give her a love marriage?? My Thoughts for (5h); Jupiter is LoA, is SD to Saturn who is LoE in HB, SD to Venus who is LoD. Jupiter gives low points in SAV for 5h, but is high for 4h which becomes LoD for 7H (Ash Ji your questions on Guru to me is guiding me here let me know if I am on the rigth track)Thus becoming eager to give marriage, but I believe not love marriage. Moreover, Mercury is 6L and if 6L connects with 2H or 10H it denies love marriage Mercury is in 2h LoD for 5h and SD to Saturn LoE for 5h, however I think since Jupiter is in HE for 11H conception, she could have conceived in this antra and could have had problems with the pregnancy that could have led to health problems that could have started in Jupiter only due to conception but escalate in Saturn antra. Jupiter has low points for 6H, but Saturn has high points for 6H. So> then, it is also possible that her problems get better in Satrun antra as Saturn has high points and is LoE. Look forward to everyone's thoughts. > Thank You Ash Ji for you questions on Guru I am still thinking on them and hope to cover them more in depth with you and group soon.> > With Kind Regards,> > Shalini> > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "BPShiv" <chandni_99@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Hussein ji,> > > > Yes you are correct. Due to the poor quality marriage should have happened during the lower power planet or 6th Lo and therefore, I was sticking with Ra antra which was a possibility after delay.> > > > But I am trying to debate myself with different antras and see the pros and cons. What if Ra antra didn't give her the marriage. As delay is the max. Full delay from Sa. Sa in the 5th and Ju in Li. Also, DBCE points are high. Keeping other factors in mind delay could be extened to Ju antra.> > > > Then,> > I thinking of Ju antra as Ju is very very strong for timing. So it could give the result but because overall quality is nil and Ju being in Li, both karaks spoilt, NK and FK in 12th from its own. 6th Lo in karaksthan. Ve with Sa in navamsa and with Ma in Rasi and Sa with Mo in navamsa and aspects Su in Rasi...all these are indirect pointers to separation when the overall quality of the chart from Lagna, Su Mo and Ve is zero. Now if the 2nd Hs is spoilt or 2nd Lo is spoilt it leads to multiple marriages/relations hips.> > > > Therefore, if Ju gives marriage, then after that comes Sa antra. Sa is LoD for the 2nd Hs with highest points in the WS could give a break. Now that being said, as mentioned earlier these are few pointers of separation that I was seeing (I still have to hass it out with Nikhlesh ji on this topic of separation) > > > > > > Of course, like Nikhlesh ji said, for divorce male and female, both the charts have to be viewed but here we only have her data, we are not saying anything concrete but can say that there is a possibility. Now if we have the other person's chart to compare and overall chart quality is excellent and meets all the compatability aspects like Ma, Ve and so forth. has blessings than all this factors will change and will prevent the break.> > > > > > > > Followed by Sa antra comes Me antra which is 6th Lo. These antras are not going to help her stabilize marriage.> > > > > > > > Thank you,> > > > -Bella.> > > > > > - > > Hussein > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > Wednesday, November 11, 2009 10:33 AM> > [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart> > > > > > > > Dear Bella ji> > > > We should consider the nature of the marriage.Here marriage is unhappy,then I think it can't take place > > > > in antra of Ju.> > > > Best Wishes> > > > Hussein> > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "BPShiv" <chandni_99@ > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Group,> > > > > > Ju antra seems to be very strong for the event.> > > > > > One more addition. This Ju is triggering 7th Hs and 12th Hs. It's LoE for 7th with high bindus sitting in Hs D. and LoD for 12th Hs. Also has highest power in WS for 7th Hs and also good points for 12th Hs.> > > > > > With the prolonged delay and Ju being in Li, I would say the third sector which is Jun 2008 - Nov 2008.> > > > > > Thank you,> > > -Bella.> > > > > > > > > - > > > BPShiv > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > Wednesday, November 11, 2009 6:30 AM> > > Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Practice Chart> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prabha ji,> > > > > > Could be very well possible that the native is still unmarried maybe due to carreer related matters but again here is my thoughts if she is already married:> > > > > > Karaks are spoilt and delay is lengthy therefore, even if Ra antra didn't give her the marriage, Ju followed by Ra seems to be very powerful. > > > > > > As far as quality, Ju is spoilt but for the timing, Ju is LoE and also with more bindus sitting in Hs D making it very eager to give the result, which should be Jul 2007 - Nov 2008.> > > > > > Thank you,> > > -Bella.> > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > prabha > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > Wednesday, November 11, 2009 4:33 AM> > > [astrologyandtiming events] Practice Chart> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members> > > DOB: 24 May 1979; TOB: 4.13 am; POB: 28N40, 77E13> > > > > > In this chart:> > > 1. The NK/FK, Ve is spoiled as it is in 12th house from itself. > > > 2. 6th lord, Me is in HoA.> > > 3. Ju, the Root Karak is in Libra.> > > 4. Ve is in Leo in D9 - and Su is with Me[6th lord] in HoA.> > > 5. Even with 12th house as HoB, both Karak and Root Karak is spoiled by the aspect/conjunction of Sa and both are posited in 12th from its house.> > > Therefore I have a feeling that this native may not have got married.> > > Thanks> > > Prabha> > >> >> > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/> From cricket scores to your friends. Try the India Homepage! India has a new look. Take a sneak peek. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 12, 2009  Dear Devi Singh ji, My answers are in purple. Seniors please correct my errors as this is the very basic portion of KAS that we are strengthening. Please clarify CAPS...this is new to me?"2.All Planets cojoin in sign NO"By this i mean to say if two planets are in one sign in rashi chart ...for example ju and ma both are in Leo...both become samdharmi to each other....ma has low points so Ma can replace Ju NO. Not in Rasi BUT YES in navamsa. If Ju and Ma are in Leo in Rasi they cannot be SD but if they are in same navamsa then they are SD. In Rasi Ju and Ma have to be in the same sign AND also in the same nakshatra. "6.Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO"This is case where Ju is in Leo in rashi chart and Ma is in Leo in navamsa.....both are in Leo and become samdharmi No. But according to lesson 25 they could be SD if they both have more points. "8.Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO"This is case where Ju with 5 point in Tarus and placed in 4th house....so LoD for 7th house is Ve and Ju can give result due to its placement so samdharmi to Ve ....can replace Ve NO. Planet is not SD to sign Lo itself in Rasi. Here in your example if you are talking about 4:10 relationship than if Ju has 5 bindus in 4th place and if Ma is in 10th place with 3 bindus than Ju can be SD to Ma provided it has more bindus. "9.If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra NO"This is case Ju is with Ra in rashi/navamsa.......and Ra represents Su/St......so Ju samdharmi to Su/St.....I Think this is my mistake we should not consider Ra as it does not have rulership of any sign NO. Ju is not SD to Su. In this case if Ju is with Ra in rasi they are not SD. If they are in Leo that means Ra represents Su. Also we have to see nakshatra Lo that Ra is in. Say Ra is in nakshatra of Ve and from two of them whichever has more bindus Ra will represent like them. If Ve has 5 bindus and Su has 3 bindus than Ra will be more like Ve and less like Su also have to check the points in WS. Now if Ra is with Ju in Sa navamsa than Ra is SD to Ju and SD to Sa. To summarize this ex. Ra REPRESENTS Ve and is SD to Ju and Sa. "Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO"I think this is again not true as per your emails and lessons as well.......rather Mo natural samdharmi to Ma.............Mo can replace Ma.However i have not got root cause/main reason for this ......rather what i think is Mo can not be boss .....Please clarify or provide any means where should i look? Yes. If Ma is in navamsa of Mo than Ma is SD to Mo and Ma can fill in for Mo. Also, please refer to Ash ji's msg # 20953 link. Nice update and more clarifications. Thank you, -Bella. - Anup. M Thursday, November 12, 2009 8:48 AM Re: Re: Practice Chart Dear Devi singh ji, Just wait,i hope members over here will try to explain you regarding your confusions. Regards Anup --- On Thu, 12/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput > wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajput >Re: Re: Practice Chart Date: Thursday, 12 November, 2009, 7:28 PM Dear Anup ji,It is really wondering for me.....something i guess incorrect in drafting/representa tion by me...let me try one more time in better way.....Please clarify CAPS...this is new to me?"2.All Planets cojoin in sign NO"By this i mean to say if two planets are in one sign in rashi chart ...for example ju and ma both are in Leo...both become samdharmi to each other....ma has low points so Ma can replace Ju "6.Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO"This is case where Ju is in Leo in rashi chart and Ma is in Leo in navamsa..... both are in Leo and become samdharmi"8.Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO"This is case where Ju with 5 point in Tarus and placed in 4th house....so LoD for 7th house is Ve and Ju can give result due to its placement so samdharmi to Ve ....can replace Ve"9.If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra NO"This is case Ju is with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ......and Ra represents Su/St......so Ju samdharmi to Su/St.....I Think this is my mistake we should not consider Ra as it does not have rulership of any sign"Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO"I think this is again not true as per your emails and lessons as well.......rather Mo natural samdharmi to Ma.......... ...Mo can replace Ma.However i have not got root cause/main reason for this ......rather what i think is Mo can not be boss .....Please clarify or provide any means where should i look?------------ ------ Regards, DevisinghAnup. M wrote: Dear Devi singh ji, My understanding is as per CAPS below. Regards Anup --- On Wed, 11/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com>Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chartastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comWednesday, 11 November, 2009, 6:30 PM Dear Anup ji,Thank you ....for corrections on emails.....this will keep me on track and avoiding out of track.If Planets in navamsa have 4:10 relation we should not consider them samdharmi that is input for me.Below is my understanding related to samdharmi what is gathered upto 2000 emails of achieves.... .putting here so may be help full to other members as well please have a look and comment on them where requires...i have arranged them on priority basis please provides your valuable comment for them where required Planets making 4:10 in rashi (offcourse boss and subordinate analogy) YES All Planets cojoin in sign NO Planet is samdharmi to Lord of nakshtra sign YES All Planets in same nakshatra YES All Planets cojoin in navamsa YES Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO Planet is samdharmi to Lord navamsa sign YES Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra NO Ra is samdharmi to sign lord and navamsa lord and planet cojoin in navamsa YESYes it is my mistake mo,ju,ma are not natural samdharmi as per KAS......Please forgive me i might done it knowingly but not intentionallyIn kalpurush chart ....looking 4:10St and Ve are samdharmi to each other....can replace each otherSu samdharmi to Ma...Su can replace Ma YESMa samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO------------ ------ Regards, DevisinghAnup. M wrote: Dear Devi singh ji, I think samdharmi concept is not clear somewhere in your mail Pleae note that .. MOON AND JU ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI JU AND MARS ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI. Also we do not consider 4:10 relation in navamsa. Regards Anup --- On Tue, 10/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com>Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chartastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comTuesday, 10 November, 2009, 6:56 PM Dear All;Some more thoughts to fix antraSt full delay but st have moved 15 degree so considering 27.5-1.3=26. 3 year initial valueJu aspects Hb in navamsa but is is in libra with rahu in navamsa and in nakshtra of St so it can not check to saturn so full delay no help from Ju to reduce delay as staus of Ju is not goodno zero in SAV so no addition in delayBlessing in navamsa but can not help to reduce delaySt is with Ra in rashi so more affilicted add delayMo aspected by Ra in rashi and St cojoin in navamsa ,As lumanaries are aspected so that will add delay Main dasha lord Mo is OK as karka to give 7th house eventsMo-MoMo LoD and Natural Samdharmi to Ju can give eventBut I think this would not be case as some what delay have to be addedMo-MaJu and Ma both in cancer one in rasi and another in navamsa makes them samdharmiJu and Ma both are natural samdharmiJu and Ma 4:10 in rashi/navamsaJu LoE and high point So Event can be in 3rd sector of it.Mo-RaRa represnts Su/Ve....considerin g more like Ve NK FK.... and cojoin Ju in navamsa so samdahrmi to Ju so Event can be in 3rd sector of it.......seems not wise choice still to meMo-JuJu Can give Event in 3rd Sector on itwill come up with more thought as gets educated to this system------------ ------ Regards, Devisinghdevisigh wrote: Dear Ash ji,NamaskarSincere thanks for your words attitude intension and time. I am trying my all time what i can collect to study this system. I guess this can takes time may be 3year (less points till that time also indicate hardwork and busy for me) Will continue my attempt/doubts hope for comments from moderators for same.I am enjoying achieves thanks to Krushna,sanjay, Donna,Peter, Magritta and all very nice considering old time and situation.hope that will helps me to understand and utilize system and finally to absorb root or essence of system so other all system and vedic text can be clarified with same so better results can be obtained related to timing of events.Everybody is trying/pushing here only to help others using there own approach It is really appreciated GOD WILL HELP THEM WHO HELPED OTHERSPlease find below is thought process/approach:I am taking acceptance that person is not mentally retired and birth details are correct no rectification requiredQuality of 7th house: checking Ju in Libra in rashi/navamsa. ...navamsa has that...it is RK,NRK and LoE..seems not good for marriage. checking Ve nakshatra in rashi...bharni. ..ok checking Su and Ve distance in rashi...less then 43...ok checking Ve is with Ra,St or aspect in rashi/navamsa. ....Ve is with St in navamsa....spoils Ve more checking LoA,LoB,LoC, LoD,LoE in rashi.....Ve, St..Mo,Ju checking planets with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ..Sa and Ju.....St is LoC and Ju is loE for 7th house and LoA for 5th house. checking Ra aspects on house in rashi/navamsa. ..9,12,2. .7,9,11.. 12th is HoE,2nd is HoA,9th is karak for HoA and HoC for child..7th is HB,11th is HC checking Ra aspects on planets in rashi and navamsa...Me, Su......Me 6th lord become more malefic and Su LoB for child case checking for planets with 6th/12th lord in rashi/navamsa. .... Ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord.....me is with ve in navamsa spoils ve. checking for aspects on house in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... checking for aspects on planets in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... cheking malefic aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....Ju with 5 points aspects to HoE,Ve with 6 points aspects to HB cheking benific aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....St with 2 points also LoC aspects to HB,HA and Mo aspects to HBBlessings,compatibi lity,DBCE, strong house,strong planets: as usual to be looked will look another timeFinding significator: checking for 2nd lord in rashi......Ve is 2nd lord...Ve antra will bring more pain looking at 2,7,11 lords...ve and st....ve is with 6 points and st is with 2 points ....left st less points and left ve 2nd lord looking at 2,7,11 occupents ...me and su...me is with 7 points and su is with 4 points ...left su less points and left me 6th lord looking at 4,12 occupents... ju and ke(ju/ju)... so ju....ju is with 5 points ....considering ju ...left as in Libra and aspect malefic to HOE consider Reperesnter for Ra/Ke...Su,Ve/ Ju,Ju.... ..left Ra as alresdy left su and ve,left ke as already left ju looking at 4,12 lords....Mo, ju....considerin g moon as already left ju....mo may act......... still requires more time for me to finalise------------ ------ Regards, DevisinghAsh's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca wrote: Dear Devisingh ji, Very nice attempt. Please continue your chain of thought. Try to find the antra that you think might give marriage. Just go upto antra. So first compute the delay and there after start to think over the best possible period that u think can give the event. However, do write your thinking process. That will help one figure out where you are going away or your confusion. Well Done. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan dtimingevents] On Behalf Of devisighThursday November 5, 2009 6:42 AMastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comRe: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart Dear All;My first attempt using KAS rules/techniques only7th house marriage:selecting Mo main Dasha which is with FK Ve for 7th houseSu and Ju seems significator from ws points for 7th houseother planets aspects 7th house i left themSu is with Me which is 6th load makes Su samdharmi to 6th lord i left thatJu having highest points and also LoEnow considering Ju only as strong significator which in RK and NRK and natural samdharmi to Mo which is LoD.Ju does not have sight on A/B/C and is LoE can gives resultsThinking for samdharmi of Juin navamsa Ju is with Ra ...makes Ju and Ra samdharmi Ra can be thought to facilitate results for 7th house matters .......still this takes time for me to finalize------------ ------ Regards, Devisinghashsam73 wrote: Dear Nikhlesh ji,You are correct. It was a typo. It was good that I gave the degree of all planets so this mistake could be checked right in the begining.Thanks Nikhlesh ji.The date should be May 24th.24th May 19794:10 AM28N4077E13Sorry about that.Cheers !!!Ash -> http://www.ashtro. caastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "nikhlesh mathur" <nikhleshmathur@ ...> wrote:>> > > Sub: 24th Feb 1979, 4.10 am, 28.N.40, 77.E.13> Dear Ash ji,> > You said that Su is 9Ta31 for the above native. But a person born on the month of Feb cannot have his Sun in Taurus sign. It should be in Aquarius at this time.> > If other things are okay then I think the birth date is 24th May.> > Please confirm.> > Regards,> Nikhlesh Mathur> > > On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:47:29 +0530 wrote> >> > Add to> this.> > > 6) When> can the native face health problems?> > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca> > > > > > Ash's Corner [kas] > Monday October 26, 2009> 12:18 AM> To:> 'astrologyandtiming events@grou ps.com'> Practice Chart> > > Dear> Group,> > > > This> lady has been posting charts in various lists for many years now. > > > > Here is> the chart > > > > 24th> Feb 1979> > 4:10 AM> > 28N40> > 77E13> > > > From> what I gather, she had an affair or liked some guy that she wanted to> marry. I am not clear from her posts> that if she married the same guy or not.> Her parents were looking out for some proposals for her.> > > > If this> chart came blindly to you, can you predict the following.> > > > 1)> Marriage> > 2)> Child birth> > 3)> Marital Relations overall> > 4)> She has been complaining that relations are bad after marriage and> asked if she should go for divorce.> > 5)> Why she had affair or what are the yogs for that in this chart. > > > > > > > > > Planet> > > Degrees> > > > > As> > > 15 Ar 55> > > > > Su> > > 9 Ta 31> > > > > Mo> > > 13 Ar 48> > > > > Ma> > > 13 Ar 8> > > > > Me> > > 2 Ta 15> > > > > Ju> > > 11 Cn 16> > > > > Ve> > > 14 Ar 30> > > > > Sa> > > 14 Le 35> > > > > Ra> > > 20 Le 59> > > > > Ke> > > 20 Aq 59> > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca> The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. 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Guest guest Report post Posted November 12, 2009 Dear Harpreet ji, The only expectation is that after this exercise, you will have more knowledge and experience that you had before you did this exercise. Do not bother about what other’s expectation or levels are. That should not be the judging factor. At the end of the day, you should be more knowledgeable that what you were before you did this exercise. How much more knowledgeable that will depend on your effort, drive, determination and eagerness to learn from one and all J Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Kirat Har Thursday November 12, 2009 12:47 PM To: RE: Re: Practice Chart Dear Ash ji , Thanks a lott for your encouragement and the inspiring words.Definitely i ll try my level best to come upto the expectation level of everybody here. please guide me where evr i need it most. Regards harpreet --- On Thu, 12/11/09, Ash's Corner <kas wrote: Ash's Corner <kas RE: Re: Practice Chart Thursday, 12 November, 2009, 7:30 AM Dear Harpreet ji, Please you also join in and try to make an attempt. This is a wonderful opportunity for learning. So try to attempt the questions asked in the original mail and share your thoughts and your opinions. It will be a good ground for hashing them out with one another. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan dtimingevents@ . com] On Behalf Of Kirat Har Thursday November 12, 2009 1:38 AM astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart Dear Shalini ji and group I m reading all ur discussions on this chart since last few days, i want to know one thng that when 6th lord Mer..is situated in 2nd house,so the karak sthan is spoiled , the marrg ll happn in the antra of low points.so Rahu will furnish this..This is as per my understanding. I may b wrong ,please correct me.. Regards Harpreet --- On Wed, 11/11/09, shalini <shalini3004@ > wrote: shalini <shalini3004@ > [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com Wednesday, 11 November, 2009, 9:49 PM Dear Anup Ji and group, Yes, I mentioned in my first analysis that I know I was going to learn a lot from this chart! When Ash Ji cleared the 'affair " mis-understanding I had and his questions to me on Guru (in 4h..), I began to see things differently. I have so much to learn!! With Kind Regards, Shalini astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, " Anup. M " <dalh_1 wrote: > > Dear Shaliniji and group, >  >  >  > Thats why with due course of time we learn and we never forget > this process. Next time when some other chart will be given,you start > looking with different aspect. >  > Which antra is feasible and more appropriate, members are striving > but everyone seems to be on right track by one way or other. >  >  > As we all know our KAS rules are fixed so is WS for timing event. > We can make mistakes while understanding but this is always there, >  > Its something not an easy task to fix antras in the span of 6 years > which comprises delay and then following antras of Moon,Ma,Ra,Ju and > Sa. >  > Think more.... the things are becoming crystal clear slowly ! >  > Ohh i am late for my office too. >  >  > Regards > Anup >  >  >  >  >  > --- On Thu, 12/11/09, shalini <shalini3004@ ...> wrote: > > > shalini <shalini3004@ ...> > [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > Thursday, 12 November, 2009, 6:01 AM > > >  > > > > Dear Ash Ji,Anup Ji,Hussein ji, Bella Ji, Nikhlesh Ji, and List Members, > > I think we can then say that Jupiter has given marriage. My next question is, was this a love marriage? Can Jupiter give her a love marriage?? My Thoughts for (5h); Jupiter is LoA, is SD to Saturn who is LoE in HB, SD to Venus who is LoD. Jupiter gives low points in SAV for 5h, but is high for 4h which becomes LoD for 7H (Ash Ji your questions on Guru to me is guiding me here let me know if I am on the rigth track)Thus becoming eager to give marriage, but I believe not love marriage. Moreover, Mercury is 6L and if 6L connects with 2H or 10H it denies love marriage Mercury is in 2h LoD for 5h and SD to Saturn LoE for 5h, however I think since Jupiter is in HE for 11H conception, she could have conceived in this antra and could have had problems with the pregnancy that could have led to health problems that could have started in Jupiter only due to conception but escalate in Saturn antra. Jupiter has low points for 6H, but Saturn has high points for 6H. So > then, it is also possible that her problems get better in Satrun antra as Saturn has high points and is LoE. Look forward to everyone's thoughts. > Thank You Ash Ji for you questions on Guru I am still thinking on them and hope to cover them more in depth with you and group soon. > > With Kind Regards, > > Shalini > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, " BPShiv " <chandni_99@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Hussein ji, > > > > Yes you are correct. Due to the poor quality marriage should have happened during the lower power planet or 6th Lo and therefore, I was sticking with Ra antra which was a possibility after delay. > > > > But I am trying to debate myself with different antras and see the pros and cons. What if Ra antra didn't give her the marriage. As delay is the max. Full delay from Sa. Sa in the 5th and Ju in Li. Also, DBCE points are high. Keeping other factors in mind delay could be extened to Ju antra. > > > > Then, > > I thinking of Ju antra as Ju is very very strong for timing. So it could give the result but because overall quality is nil and Ju being in Li, both karaks spoilt, NK and FK in 12th from its own. 6th Lo in karaksthan. Ve with Sa in navamsa and with Ma in Rasi and Sa with Mo in navamsa and aspects Su in Rasi...all these are indirect pointers to separation when the overall quality of the chart from Lagna, Su Mo and Ve is zero. Now if the 2nd Hs is spoilt or 2nd Lo is spoilt it leads to multiple marriages/relations hips. > > > > Therefore, if Ju gives marriage, then after that comes Sa antra. Sa is LoD for the 2nd Hs with highest points in the WS could give a break. Now that being said, as mentioned earlier these are few pointers of separation that I was seeing (I still have to hass it out with Nikhlesh ji on this topic of separation) > > > > > > Of course, like Nikhlesh ji said, for divorce male and female, both the charts have to be viewed but here we only have her data, we are not saying anything concrete but can say that there is a possibility. Now if we have the other person's chart to compare and overall chart quality is excellent and meets all the compatability aspects like Ma, Ve and so forth. has blessings than all this factors will change and will prevent the break. > > > > > > > > Followed by Sa antra comes Me antra which is 6th Lo. These antras are not going to help her stabilize marriage. > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > -Bella. > > > > > > - > > Hussein > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > Wednesday, November 11, 2009 10:33 AM > > [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart > > > > > > > > Dear Bella ji > > > > We should consider the nature of the marriage.Here marriage is unhappy,then I think it can't take place > > > > in antra of Ju. > > > > Best Wishes > > > > Hussein > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, " BPShiv " <chandni_99@ > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > Ju antra seems to be very strong for the event. > > > > > > One more addition. This Ju is triggering 7th Hs and 12th Hs. It's LoE for 7th with high bindus sitting in Hs D. and LoD for 12th Hs. Also has highest power in WS for 7th Hs and also good points for 12th Hs. > > > > > > With the prolonged delay and Ju being in Li, I would say the third sector which is Jun 2008 - Nov 2008. > > > > > > Thank you, > > > -Bella. > > > > > > > > > - > > > BPShiv > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > Wednesday, November 11, 2009 6:30 AM > > > Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Practice Chart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prabha ji, > > > > > > Could be very well possible that the native is still unmarried maybe due to carreer related matters but again here is my thoughts if she is already married: > > > > > > Karaks are spoilt and delay is lengthy therefore, even if Ra antra didn't give her the marriage, Ju followed by Ra seems to be very powerful. > > > > > > As far as quality, Ju is spoilt but for the timing, Ju is LoE and also with more bindus sitting in Hs D making it very eager to give the result, which should be Jul 2007 - Nov 2008. > > > > > > Thank you, > > > -Bella. > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > prabha > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > Wednesday, November 11, 2009 4:33 AM > > > [astrologyandtiming events] Practice Chart > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members > > > DOB: 24 May 1979; TOB: 4.13 am; POB: 28N40, 77E13 > > > > > > In this chart: > > > 1. The NK/FK, Ve is spoiled as it is in 12th house from itself. > > > 2. 6th lord, Me is in HoA. > > > 3. Ju, the Root Karak is in Libra. > > > 4. Ve is in Leo in D9 - and Su is with Me[6th lord] in HoA. > > > 5. Even with 12th house as HoB, both Karak and Root Karak is spoiled by the aspect/conjunction of Sa and both are posited in 12th from its house. > > > Therefore I have a feeling that this native may not have got married. > > > Thanks > > > Prabha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/ > From cricket scores to your friends. Try the India Homepage! India has a new look. Take a sneak peek. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 12, 2009 Dear Bella ji, Just one small correction from my side on my earlier mail. The order or SD will be 1) 4:10 2) Same Sign & Nak 3) Same Navamsa 4) Navamsa lord 5) Nakshatra lord. NSD if they get a chance they will give, that depends on fixed relationship as per natural chart. So there is no order for the same. Except that if they are in 1:7 then they cease to become NSD’s. The reason for the above order is that if you notice that the last 2 are only one way, means planet comes sd to navamsa lord or nak lord so its one way. Means planet can replace the nav lord or nak lord if they are unable to give the result but not vice versa. When planets are in same navamsa then they are 2 way means both can replace each other. Hence the distinction. Just try to understand the essence of the same. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of BPShiv Thursday November 12, 2009 12:48 PM Re: Re: Practice Chart  Dear Devi Singh ji, My answers are in purple. Seniors please correct my errors as this is the very basic portion of KAS that we are strengthening. Please clarify CAPS...this is new to me? " 2.All Planets cojoin in sign NO " By this i mean to say if two planets are in one sign in rashi chart ...for example ju and ma both are in Leo...both become samdharmi to each other....ma has low points so Ma can replace Ju NO. Not in Rasi BUT YES in navamsa. If Ju and Ma are in Leo in Rasi they cannot be SD but if they are in same navamsa then they are SD. In Rasi Ju and Ma have to be in the same sign AND also in the same nakshatra. " 6.Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO " This is case where Ju is in Leo in rashi chart and Ma is in Leo in navamsa.....both are in Leo and become samdharmi No. But according to lesson 25 they could be SD if they both have more points. " 8.Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO " This is case where Ju with 5 point in Tarus and placed in 4th house....so LoD for 7th house is Ve and Ju can give result due to its placement so samdharmi to Ve ....can replace Ve NO. Planet is not SD to sign Lo itself in Rasi. Here in your example if you are talking about 4:10 relationship than if Ju has 5 bindus in 4th place and if Ma is in 10th place with 3 bindus than Ju can be SD to Ma provided it has more bindus. " 9.If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra NO " This is case Ju is with Ra in rashi/navamsa.......and Ra represents Su/St......so Ju samdharmi to Su/St.....I Think this is my mistake we should not consider Ra as it does not have rulership of any sign NO. Ju is not SD to Su. In this case if Ju is with Ra in rasi they are not SD. If they are in Leo that means Ra represents Su. Also we have to see nakshatra Lo that Ra is in. Say Ra is in nakshatra of Ve and from two of them whichever has more bindus Ra will represent like them. If Ve has 5 bindus and Su has 3 bindus than Ra will be more like Ve and less like Su also have to check the points in WS. Now if Ra is with Ju in Sa navamsa than Ra is SD to Ju and SD to Sa. To summarize this ex. Ra REPRESENTS Ve and is SD to Ju and Sa. " Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO " I think this is again not true as per your emails and lessons as well.......rather Mo natural samdharmi to Ma.............Mo can replace Ma. However i have not got root cause/main reason for this ......rather what i think is Mo can not be boss .....Please clarify or provide any means where should i look? Yes. If Ma is in navamsa of Mo than Ma is SD to Mo and Ma can fill in for Mo. Also, please refer to Ash ji's msg # 20953 link. Nice update and more clarifications. Thank you, -Bella. ----- Original Message ----- Anup. M Thursday, November 12, 2009 8:48 AM Re: Re: Practice Chart Dear Devi singh ji, Just wait,i hope members over here will try to explain you regarding your confusions. Regards Anup --- On Thu, 12/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajput Re: Re: Practice Chart Thursday, 12 November, 2009, 7:28 PM Dear Anup ji, It is really wondering for me.....something i guess incorrect in drafting/representa tion by me...let me try one more time in better way..... Please clarify CAPS...this is new to me? " 2.All Planets cojoin in sign NO " By this i mean to say if two planets are in one sign in rashi chart ...for example ju and ma both are in Leo...both become samdharmi to each other....ma has low points so Ma can replace Ju " 6.Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO " This is case where Ju is in Leo in rashi chart and Ma is in Leo in navamsa..... both are in Leo and become samdharmi " 8.Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO " This is case where Ju with 5 point in Tarus and placed in 4th house....so LoD for 7th house is Ve and Ju can give result due to its placement so samdharmi to Ve ....can replace Ve " 9.If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra NO " This is case Ju is with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ......and Ra represents Su/St......so Ju samdharmi to Su/St.....I Think this is my mistake we should not consider Ra as it does not have rulership of any sign " Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO " I think this is again not true as per your emails and lessons as well.......rather Mo natural samdharmi to Ma.......... ...Mo can replace Ma. However i have not got root cause/main reason for this ......rather what i think is Mo can not be boss .....Please clarify or provide any means where should i look? ------------ ------ Regards, Devisingh Anup. M wrote: Dear Devi singh ji, My understanding is as per CAPS below. Regards Anup --- On Wed, 11/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com Wednesday, 11 November, 2009, 6:30 PM Dear Anup ji, Thank you ....for corrections on emails.....this will keep me on track and avoiding out of track. If Planets in navamsa have 4:10 relation we should not consider them samdharmi that is input for me. Below is my understanding related to samdharmi what is gathered upto 2000 emails of achieves.... .putting here so may be help full to other members as well please have a look and comment on them where requires...i have arranged them on priority basis please provides your valuable comment for them where required Planets making 4:10 in rashi (offcourse boss and subordinate analogy) YES All Planets cojoin in sign NO Planet is samdharmi to Lord of nakshtra sign YES All Planets in same nakshatra YES All Planets cojoin in navamsa YES Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO Planet is samdharmi to Lord navamsa sign YES Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra NO Ra is samdharmi to sign lord and navamsa lord and planet cojoin in navamsa YES Yes it is my mistake mo,ju,ma are not natural samdharmi as per KAS......Please forgive me i might done it knowingly but not intentionally In kalpurush chart ....looking 4:10 St and Ve are samdharmi to each other....can replace each other Su samdharmi to Ma...Su can replace Ma YES Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO ------------ ------ Regards, Devisingh Anup. M wrote: Dear Devi singh ji, I think samdharmi concept is not clear somewhere in your mail Pleae note that .. MOON AND JU ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI JU AND MARS ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI. Also we do not consider 4:10 relation in navamsa. Regards Anup --- On Tue, 10/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com Tuesday, 10 November, 2009, 6:56 PM Dear All; Some more thoughts to fix antra St full delay but st have moved 15 degree so considering 27.5-1.3=26. 3 year initial value Ju aspects Hb in navamsa but is is in libra with rahu in navamsa and in nakshtra of St so it can not check to saturn so full delay no help from Ju to reduce delay as staus of Ju is not good no zero in SAV so no addition in delay Blessing in navamsa but can not help to reduce delay St is with Ra in rashi so more affilicted add delay Mo aspected by Ra in rashi and St cojoin in navamsa ,As lumanaries are aspected so that will add delay Main dasha lord Mo is OK as karka to give 7th house events Mo-Mo Mo LoD and Natural Samdharmi to Ju can give event But I think this would not be case as some what delay have to be added Mo-Ma Ju and Ma both in cancer one in rasi and another in navamsa makes them samdharmi Ju and Ma both are natural samdharmi Ju and Ma 4:10 in rashi/navamsa Ju LoE and high point So Event can be in 3rd sector of it. Mo-Ra Ra represnts Su/Ve....considerin g more like Ve NK FK.... and cojoin Ju in navamsa so samdahrmi to Ju so Event can be in 3rd sector of it.......seems not wise choice still to me Mo-Ju Ju Can give Event in 3rd Sector on it will come up with more thought as gets educated to this system ------------ ------ Regards, Devisingh devisigh wrote: Dear Ash ji, Namaskar Sincere thanks for your words attitude intension and time. I am trying my all time what i can collect to study this system. I guess this can takes time may be 3year (less points till that time also indicate hardwork and busy for me) Will continue my attempt/doubts hope for comments from moderators for same. I am enjoying achieves thanks to Krushna,sanjay, Donna,Peter, Magritta and all very nice considering old time and situation. hope that will helps me to understand and utilize system and finally to absorb root or essence of system so other all system and vedic text can be clarified with same so better results can be obtained related to timing of events. Everybody is trying/pushing here only to help others using there own approach It is really appreciated GOD WILL HELP THEM WHO HELPED OTHERS Please find below is thought process/approach: I am taking acceptance that person is not mentally retired and birth details are correct no rectification required Quality of 7th house: checking Ju in Libra in rashi/navamsa. ...navamsa has that...it is RK,NRK and LoE..seems not good for marriage. checking Ve nakshatra in rashi...bharni. ..ok checking Su and Ve distance in rashi...less then 43...ok checking Ve is with Ra,St or aspect in rashi/navamsa. ....Ve is with St in navamsa....spoils Ve more checking LoA,LoB,LoC, LoD,LoE in rashi.....Ve, St..Mo,Ju checking planets with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ..Sa and Ju.....St is LoC and Ju is loE for 7th house and LoA for 5th house. checking Ra aspects on house in rashi/navamsa. ..9,12,2. .7,9,11.. 12th is HoE,2nd is HoA,9th is karak for HoA and HoC for child..7th is HB,11th is HC checking Ra aspects on planets in rashi and navamsa...Me, Su......Me 6th lord become more malefic and Su LoB for child case checking for planets with 6th/12th lord in rashi/navamsa. .... Ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord.....me is with ve in navamsa spoils ve. checking for aspects on house in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... checking for aspects on planets in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... cheking malefic aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....Ju with 5 points aspects to HoE,Ve with 6 points aspects to HB cheking benific aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....St with 2 points also LoC aspects to HB,HA and Mo aspects to HB Blessings,compatibi lity,DBCE, strong house,strong planets: as usual to be looked will look another time Finding significator: checking for 2nd lord in rashi......Ve is 2nd lord...Ve antra will bring more pain looking at 2,7,11 lords...ve and st....ve is with 6 points and st is with 2 points .....left st less points and left ve 2nd lord looking at 2,7,11 occupents ...me and su...me is with 7 points and su is with 4 points ....left su less points and left me 6th lord looking at 4,12 occupents... ju and ke(ju/ju)... so ju....ju is with 5 points .....considering ju ...left as in Libra and aspect malefic to HOE consider Reperesnter for Ra/Ke...Su,Ve/ Ju,Ju.... ..left Ra as alresdy left su and ve,left ke as already left ju looking at 4,12 lords....Mo, ju....considerin g moon as already left ju....mo may act......... still requires more time for me to finalise ------------ ------ Regards, Devisingh Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca wrote: Dear Devisingh ji, Very nice attempt. Please continue your chain of thought. Try to find the antra that you think might give marriage. Just go upto antra. So first compute the delay and there after start to think over the best possible period that u think can give the event. However, do write your thinking process. That will help one figure out where you are going away or your confusion. Well Done. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan dtimingevents] On Behalf Of devisigh Thursday November 5, 2009 6:42 AM astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart Dear All; My first attempt using KAS rules/techniques only 7th house marriage: selecting Mo main Dasha which is with FK Ve for 7th house Su and Ju seems significator from ws points for 7th house other planets aspects 7th house i left them Su is with Me which is 6th load makes Su samdharmi to 6th lord i left that Ju having highest points and also LoE now considering Ju only as strong significator which in RK and NRK and natural samdharmi to Mo which is LoD. Ju does not have sight on A/B/C and is LoE can gives results Thinking for samdharmi of Ju in navamsa Ju is with Ra ...makes Ju and Ra samdharmi Ra can be thought to facilitate results for 7th house matters .......still this takes time for me to finalize ------------ ------ Regards, Devisingh ashsam73 wrote: Dear Nikhlesh ji, You are correct. It was a typo. It was good that I gave the degree of all planets so this mistake could be checked right in the begining. Thanks Nikhlesh ji. The date should be May 24th. 24th May 1979 4:10 AM 28N40 77E13 Sorry about that. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, " nikhlesh mathur " <nikhleshmathur@ ...> wrote: > > > > Sub: 24th Feb 1979, 4.10 am, 28.N.40, 77.E.13 > Dear Ash ji, > > You said that Su is 9Ta31 for the above native. But a person born on the month of Feb cannot have his Sun in Taurus sign. It should be in Aquarius at this time. > > If other things are okay then I think the birth date is 24th May. > > Please confirm. > > Regards, > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:47:29 +0530 wrote > > > > Add to > this. > > > 6) When > can the native face health problems? > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca > > > > > > Ash's Corner [kas] > Monday October 26, 2009 > 12:18 AM > To: > 'astrologyandtiming events@grou ps.com' > Practice Chart > > > Dear > Group, > > > > This > lady has been posting charts in various lists for many years now. > > > > Here is > the chart > > > > 24th > Feb 1979 > > 4:10 AM > > 28N40 > > 77E13 > > > > From > what I gather, she had an affair or liked some guy that she wanted to > marry. I am not clear from her posts > that if she married the same guy or not. > Her parents were looking out for some proposals for her. > > > > If this > chart came blindly to you, can you predict the following. > > > > 1) > Marriage > > 2) > Child birth > > 3) > Marital Relations overall > > 4) > She has been complaining that relations are bad after marriage and > asked if she should go for divorce. > > 5) > Why she had affair or what are the yogs for that in this chart. > > > > > > > > > Planet > > > Degrees > > > > > As > > > 15 Ar 55 > > > > > Su > > > 9 Ta 31 > > > > > Mo > > > 13 Ar 48 > > > > > Ma > > > 13 Ar 8 > > > > > Me > > > 2 Ta 15 > > > > > Ju > > > 11 Cn 16 > > > > > Ve > > > 14 Ar 30 > > > > > Sa > > > 14 Le 35 > > > > > Ra > > > 20 Le 59 > > > > > Ke > > > 20 Aq 59 > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. 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Guest guest Report post Posted November 12, 2009 Dear Ash ji I think another rule which is available for SDs is that :the planets which are in the exaltation sign or are in their own kendra are SD for each other.Best WishesHussein , "Ash's Corner" <kas wrote:>> Dear Bella ji,> > Just one small correction from my side on my earlier mail.> > The order or SD will be> > 1) 4:10> 2) Same Sign & Nak> 3) Same Navamsa> 4) Navamsa lord> 5) Nakshatra lord.> > NSD if they get a chance they will give, that depends on fixed relationship as per natural chart. So there is no order for the same. Except that if they are in 1:7 then they cease to become NSD’s.> > The reason for the above order is that if you notice that the last 2 are only one way, means planet comes sd to navamsa lord or nak lord so its one way. Means planet can replace the nav lord or nak lord if they are unable to give the result but not vice versa.> When planets are in same navamsa then they are 2 way means both can replace each other.> > Hence the distinction. > > Just try to understand the essence of the same.> Cheers !!!> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca> > On Behalf Of BPShiv> Thursday November 12, 2009 12:48 PM> > Re: Re: Practice Chart> > >  > Dear Devi Singh ji,> My answers are in purple. Seniors please correct my errors as this is the very basic portion of KAS that we are strengthening.> > > Please clarify CAPS...this is new to me?> > "2.All Planets cojoin in sign NO"> By this i mean to say if two planets are in one sign in rashi chart ...for example ju and ma both are in Leo...both become samdharmi to each other....ma has low points so Ma can replace Ju > NO. Not in Rasi BUT YES in navamsa. If Ju and Ma are in Leo in Rasi they cannot be SD but if they are in same navamsa then they are SD.> In Rasi Ju and Ma have to be in the same sign AND also in the same nakshatra.> > "6.Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO"> This is case where Ju is in Leo in rashi chart and Ma is in Leo in navamsa.....both are in Leo and become samdharmi> No. But according to lesson 25 they could be SD if they both have more points. > > "8.Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO"> This is case where Ju with 5 point in Tarus and placed in 4th house....so LoD for 7th house is Ve and Ju can give result due to its placement so samdharmi to Ve ....can replace Ve> NO. Planet is not SD to sign Lo itself in Rasi.> Here in your example if you are talking about 4:10 relationship than if Ju has 5 bindus in 4th place and if Ma is in 10th place with 3 bindus than Ju can be SD to Ma provided it has more bindus. > > "9.If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra NO"> This is case Ju is with Ra in rashi/navamsa.......and Ra represents Su/St......so Ju samdharmi to Su/St.....I Think this is my mistake we should not consider Ra as it does not have rulership of any sign> > > > NO. Ju is not SD to Su.> In this case if Ju is with Ra in rasi they are not SD. If they are in Leo that means Ra represents Su. Also we have to see nakshatra Lo that Ra is in. Say Ra is in nakshatra of Ve and from two of them whichever has more bindus Ra will represent like them. If Ve has 5 bindus and Su has 3 bindus than Ra will be more like Ve and less like Su also have to check the points in WS.> Now if Ra is with Ju in Sa navamsa than Ra is SD to Ju and SD to Sa.> To summarize this ex. Ra REPRESENTS Ve and is SD to Ju and Sa.> > "Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO"> I think this is again not true as per your emails and lessons as well.......rather Mo natural samdharmi to Ma.............Mo can replace Ma.> However i have not got root cause/main reason for this ......rather what i think is Mo can not be boss .....Please clarify or provide any means where should i look?> > > > Yes. If Ma is in navamsa of Mo than Ma is SD to Mo and Ma can fill in for Mo.> Also, please refer to Ash ji's msg # 20953 link. Nice update and more clarifications.> > Thank you,> -Bella.> > > > - > Anup. M <dalh_1 > > Thursday, November 12, 2009 8:48 AM> Re: Re: Practice Chart> > > > > Dear Devi singh ji,> > > Just wait,i hope members over here will try to explain you > regarding your confusions.> > > Regards > Anup> > > --- On Thu, 12/11/09, devisigh devisingh.rajput wrote:> > devisigh devisingh.rajput Re: Re: Practice Chart> > Thursday, 12 November, 2009, 7:28 PM> > Dear Anup ji,> > It is really wondering for me.....something i guess incorrect in drafting/representa tion by me...let me try one more time in better way.....> > Please clarify CAPS...this is new to me?> > "2.All Planets cojoin in sign NO"> By this i mean to say if two planets are in one sign in rashi chart ...for example ju and ma both are in Leo...both become samdharmi to each other....ma has low points so Ma can replace Ju > > "6.Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO"> This is case where Ju is in Leo in rashi chart and Ma is in Leo in navamsa..... both are in Leo and become samdharmi> > "8.Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO"> This is case where Ju with 5 point in Tarus and placed in 4th house....so LoD for 7th house is Ve and Ju can give result due to its placement so samdharmi to Ve ....can replace Ve> > "9.If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra NO"> This is case Ju is with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ......and Ra represents Su/St......so Ju samdharmi to Su/St.....I Think this is my mistake we should not consider Ra as it does not have rulership of any sign> > "Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO"> I think this is again not true as per your emails and lessons as well.......rather Mo natural samdharmi to Ma.......... ...Mo can replace Ma.> However i have not got root cause/main reason for this ......rather what i think is Mo can not be boss .....Please clarify or provide any means where should i look?> > ------------ ------ > Regards, > Devisingh> > > Anup. M wrote: > > > Dear Devi singh ji,> > > My understanding is as per CAPS below.> > Regards> Anup> > > --- On Wed, 11/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote:> > devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com>> Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> Wednesday, 11 November, 2009, 6:30 PM> > Dear Anup ji,> > Thank you ....for corrections on emails.....this will keep me on track and avoiding out of track.> > If Planets in navamsa have 4:10 relation we should not consider them samdharmi that is input for me.> > Below is my understanding related to samdharmi what is gathered upto 2000 emails of achieves.... .putting here so may be help full to other members as well please have a look and comment on them where requires...i have arranged them on priority basis please provides your valuable comment for them where required> 1. Planets making 4:10 in rashi (offcourse boss and subordinate analogy) YES > 2. All Planets cojoin in sign NO > 3. Planet is samdharmi to Lord of nakshtra sign YES > 4. All Planets in same nakshatra YES > 5. All Planets cojoin in navamsa YES > 6. Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO> 7. Planet is samdharmi to Lord navamsa sign YES > 8. Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO> 9. If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra NO > 10. > 11. Ra is samdharmi to sign lord and navamsa lord and planet cojoin in navamsa YES> > Yes it is my mistake mo,ju,ma are not natural samdharmi as per KAS......Please forgive me i might done it knowingly but not intentionally> In kalpurush chart ....looking 4:10> St and Ve are samdharmi to each other....can replace each other> Su samdharmi to Ma...Su can replace Ma YES> Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO> ------------ ------ > Regards, > Devisingh> > Anup. M wrote: > > > Dear Devi singh ji, > > > I think samdharmi concept is not clear somewhere in your mail> > Pleae note that ..> MOON AND JU ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI > JU AND MARS ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI.> > Also we do not consider 4:10 relation in navamsa.> > > Regards> Anup > > > > --- On Tue, 10/11/09, devisigh <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=devisingh.rajput@... <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote:> > devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com>> Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> Tuesday, 10 November, 2009, 6:56 PM> > Dear All;> > Some more thoughts to fix antra> > St full delay but st have moved 15 degree so considering 27.5-1.3=26. 3 year initial value> Ju aspects Hb in navamsa but is is in libra with rahu in navamsa and in nakshtra of St so it can not check to saturn so full delay no help from Ju to reduce delay as staus of Ju is not good> > no zero in SAV so no addition in delay> Blessing in navamsa but can not help to reduce delay> St is with Ra in rashi so more affilicted add delay> Mo aspected by Ra in rashi and St cojoin in navamsa ,As lumanaries are aspected so that will add delay > > Main dasha lord Mo is OK as karka to give 7th house events> > Mo-Mo> Mo LoD and Natural Samdharmi to Ju can give event> > But I think this would not be case as some what delay have to be added> > Mo-Ma> Ju and Ma both in cancer one in rasi and another in navamsa makes them samdharmi> Ju and Ma both are natural samdharmi> Ju and Ma 4:10 in rashi/navamsa> Ju LoE and high point So Event can be in 3rd sector of it.> > > Mo-Ra> Ra represnts Su/Ve....considerin g more like Ve NK FK.... and cojoin Ju in navamsa so samdahrmi to Ju > > so Event can be in 3rd sector of it.......seems not wise choice still to me> > Mo-Ju> Ju Can give Event in 3rd Sector on it> > will come up with more thought as gets educated to this system> ------------ ------ > Regards, > Devisingh> > devisigh wrote: > Dear Ash ji,> > Namaskar> > Sincere thanks for your words attitude intension and time. > > I am trying my all time what i can collect to study this system. > I guess this can takes time may be 3year (less points till that time also indicate hardwork and busy for me) Will continue my attempt/doubts hope for comments from moderators for same.> I am enjoying achieves thanks to Krushna,sanjay, Donna,Peter, Magritta and all very nice considering old time and situation.> hope that will helps me to understand and utilize system and finally to absorb root or essence of system so other all system and vedic text can be clarified with same so better results can be obtained related to timing of events.> Everybody is trying/pushing here only to help others using there own approach It is really appreciated GOD WILL HELP THEM WHO HELPED OTHERS> > Please find below is thought process/approach:> I am taking acceptance that person is not mentally retired and birth details are correct no rectification required> > Quality of 7th house:> * checking Ju in Libra in rashi/navamsa. ...navamsa has that...it is RK,NRK and LoE..seems not good for marriage. > * checking Ve nakshatra in rashi...bharni. ..ok > * checking Su and Ve distance in rashi...less then 43...ok > * checking Ve is with Ra,St or aspect in rashi/navamsa. ....Ve is with St in navamsa....spoils Ve more > * checking LoA,LoB,LoC, LoD,LoE in rashi.....Ve, St..Mo,Ju > * checking planets with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ..Sa and Ju.....St is LoC and Ju is loE for 7th house and LoA for 5th house. > * checking Ra aspects on house in rashi/navamsa. ..9,12,2. .7,9,11.. 12th is HoE,2nd is HoA,9th is karak for HoA and HoC for child..7th is HB,11th is HC > * checking Ra aspects on planets in rashi and navamsa...Me, Su......Me 6th lord become more malefic and Su LoB for child case > * checking for planets with 6th/12th lord in rashi/navamsa. .... Ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord.....me is with ve in navamsa spoils ve. > * checking for aspects on house in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... > * checking for aspects on planets in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... > * cheking malefic aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....Ju with 5 points aspects to HoE,Ve with 6 points aspects to HB > * cheking benific aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....St with 2 points also LoC aspects to HB,HA and Mo aspects to HB> Blessings,compatibi lity,DBCE, strong house,strong planets:> * as usual to be looked will look another time> Finding significator:> * checking for 2nd lord in rashi......Ve is 2nd lord...Ve antra will bring more pain > * looking at 2,7,11 lords...ve and st....ve is with 6 points and st is with 2 points ....left st less points and left ve 2nd lord > * looking at 2,7,11 occupents ...me and su...me is with 7 points and su is with 4 points ...left su less points and left me 6th lord > * looking at 4,12 occupents... ju and ke(ju/ju)... so ju....ju is with 5 points ....considering ju ...left as in Libra and aspect malefic to HOE > * consider Reperesnter for Ra/Ke...Su,Ve/ Ju,Ju.... ..left Ra as alresdy left su and ve,left ke as already left ju > * looking at 4,12 lords....Mo, ju....considerin g moon as already left ju....mo may act......... still requires more time for me to finalise> > ------------ ------ > Regards, > Devisingh> > Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=Corner@... wrote: > > Dear Devisingh ji,> > Very nice attempt. Please continue your chain of thought. > Try to find the antra that you think might give marriage. Just go upto antra. > So first compute the delay and there after start to think over the best possible period that u think can give the event. > However, do write your thinking process. That will help one figure out where you are going away or your confusion. > Well Done. > Cheers !!!> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro. ca > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=astrologyan> dtimingevents] On Behalf Of devisigh> Thursday November 5, 2009 6:42 AM> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart> > Dear All;> > My first attempt using KAS rules/techniques only> > 7th house marriage:> selecting Mo main Dasha which is with FK Ve for 7th house> Su and Ju seems significator from ws points for 7th house> other planets aspects 7th house i left them> Su is with Me which is 6th load makes Su samdharmi to 6th lord i left that> Ju having highest points and also LoE> now considering Ju only as strong significator which in RK and NRK and natural samdharmi to Mo which is LoD.> Ju does not have sight on A/B/C and is LoE can gives results> > Thinking for samdharmi of Ju> in navamsa Ju is with Ra ...makes Ju and Ra samdharmi > Ra can be thought to facilitate results for 7th house matters .......still this takes time for me to finalize> > ------------ ------ > Regards, > Devisingh> > > ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear Nikhlesh ji,> > You are correct. It was a typo. It was good that I gave the degree of all planets so this mistake could be checked right in the begining.> > Thanks Nikhlesh ji.> > The date should be May 24th.> > 24th May 1979> 4:10 AM> 28N40> 77E13> > Sorry about that.> > Cheers !!!> Ash -> http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca> > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=%40> , "nikhlesh mathur" <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=nikhleshmathur@ <nikhleshmathur@ ...> wrote:> >> > > > > > Sub: 24th Feb 1979, 4.10 am, 28.N.40, 77.E.13> > Dear Ash ji,> > > > You said that Su is 9Ta31 for the above native. But a person born on the month of Feb cannot have his Sun in Taurus sign. It should be in Aquarius at this time.> > > > If other things are okay then I think the birth date is 24th May.> > > > Please confirm.> > > > Regards,> > Nikhlesh Mathur> > > > > > On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:47:29 +0530 wrote> > >> > > > Add to> > this.> > > > > > 6) When> > can the native face health problems?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca> > > > > > > > > > > > Ash's Corner@ [kas@ <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=kas@> ...] > > Monday October 26, 2009> > 12:18 AM> > To:> > 'astrologyandtiming events@grou ps.com <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=%27%40> '> > Practice Chart> > > > > > Dear> > Group,> > > > > > > > This> > lady has been posting charts in various lists for many years now. > > > > > > > > Here is> > the chart > > > > > > > > 24th> > Feb 1979> > > > 4:10 AM> > > > 28N40> > > > 77E13> > > > > > > > From> > what I gather, she had an affair or liked some guy that she wanted to> > marry. I am not clear from her posts> > that if she married the same guy or not.> > Her parents were looking out for some proposals for her.> > > > > > > > If this> > chart came blindly to you, can you predict the following.> > > > > > > > 1)> > Marriage> > > > 2)> > Child birth> > > > 3)> > Marital Relations overall> > > > 4)> > She has been complaining that relations are bad after marriage and> > asked if she should go for divorce.> > > > 5)> > Why she had affair or what are the yogs for that in this chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet> > > > > > Degrees> > > > > > > > > > As> > > > > > 15 Ar 55> > > > > > > > > > Su> > > > > > 9 Ta 31> > > > > > > > > > Mo> > > > > > 13 Ar 48> > > > > > > > > > Ma> > > > > > 13 Ar 8> > > > > > > > > > Me> > > > > > 2 Ta 15> > > > > > > > > > Ju> > > > > > 11 Cn 16> > > > > > > > > > Ve> > > > > > 14 Ar 30> > > > > > > > > > Sa> > > > > > 14 Le 35> > > > > > > > > > Ra> > > > > > 20 Le 59> > > > > > > > > > Ke> > > > > > 20 Aq 59> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca> >> > > _____ > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage <http://in.rd./tagline_yyi_1/*http:/in./> . > > > _____ > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage <http://in.rd./tagline_yyi_1/*http:/in./> . > > > > > _____ > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See <http://in.rd./tagline_yyi_1/*http:/in./> your Homepage.> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 12, 2009  Dear Ash ji, Thank you very much for your inputs. Your replies always brings new encouragement to us. Always appreciated. Thank you, -Bella. - Ash's Corner Thursday, November 12, 2009 12:56 PM RE: Re: Practice Chart Dear Bella ji, Just one small correction from my side on my earlier mail. The order or SD will be 1) 4:10 2) Same Sign & Nak 3) Same Navamsa 4) Navamsa lord 5) Nakshatra lord. NSD if they get a chance they will give, that depends on fixed relationship as per natural chart. So there is no order for the same. Except that if they are in 1:7 then they cease to become NSD’s. The reason for the above order is that if you notice that the last 2 are only one way, means planet comes sd to navamsa lord or nak lord so its one way. Means planet can replace the nav lord or nak lord if they are unable to give the result but not vice versa. When planets are in same navamsa then they are 2 way means both can replace each other. Hence the distinction. Just try to understand the essence of the same. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of BPShivThursday November 12, 2009 12:48 PM Subject: Re: Re: Practice Chart  Dear Devi Singh ji, My answers are in purple. Seniors please correct my errors as this is the very basic portion of KAS that we are strengthening. Please clarify CAPS...this is new to me?"2.All Planets cojoin in sign NO"By this i mean to say if two planets are in one sign in rashi chart ...for example ju and ma both are in Leo...both become samdharmi to each other....ma has low points so Ma can replace Ju NO. Not in Rasi BUT YES in navamsa. If Ju and Ma are in Leo in Rasi they cannot be SD but if they are in same navamsa then they are SD. In Rasi Ju and Ma have to be in the same sign AND also in the same nakshatra. "6.Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO"This is case where Ju is in Leo in rashi chart and Ma is in Leo in navamsa.....both are in Leo and become samdharmi No. But according to lesson 25 they could be SD if they both have more points. "8.Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO"This is case where Ju with 5 point in Tarus and placed in 4th house....so LoD for 7th house is Ve and Ju can give result due to its placement so samdharmi to Ve ....can replace Ve NO. Planet is not SD to sign Lo itself in Rasi. Here in your example if you are talking about 4:10 relationship than if Ju has 5 bindus in 4th place and if Ma is in 10th place with 3 bindus than Ju can be SD to Ma provided it has more bindus. "9.If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra NO"This is case Ju is with Ra in rashi/navamsa.......and Ra represents Su/St......so Ju samdharmi to Su/St.....I Think this is my mistake we should not consider Ra as it does not have rulership of any sign NO. Ju is not SD to Su. In this case if Ju is with Ra in rasi they are not SD. If they are in Leo that means Ra represents Su. Also we have to see nakshatra Lo that Ra is in. Say Ra is in nakshatra of Ve and from two of them whichever has more bindus Ra will represent like them. If Ve has 5 bindus and Su has 3 bindus than Ra will be more like Ve and less like Su also have to check the points in WS. Now if Ra is with Ju in Sa navamsa than Ra is SD to Ju and SD to Sa. To summarize this ex. Ra REPRESENTS Ve and is SD to Ju and Sa. "Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO"I think this is again not true as per your emails and lessons as well.......rather Mo natural samdharmi to Ma.............Mo can replace Ma.However i have not got root cause/main reason for this ......rather what i think is Mo can not be boss .....Please clarify or provide any means where should i look? Yes. If Ma is in navamsa of Mo than Ma is SD to Mo and Ma can fill in for Mo. Also, please refer to Ash ji's msg # 20953 link. Nice update and more clarifications. Thank you, -Bella. - Anup. M Thursday, November 12, 2009 8:48 AM Re: Re: Practice Chart Dear Devi singh ji, Just wait,i hope members over here will try to explain you regarding your confusions. Regards Anup --- On Thu, 12/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput > wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajput >Re: Re: Practice Chart Date: Thursday, 12 November, 2009, 7:28 PM Dear Anup ji,It is really wondering for me.....something i guess incorrect in drafting/representa tion by me...let me try one more time in better way.....Please clarify CAPS...this is new to me?"2.All Planets cojoin in sign NO"By this i mean to say if two planets are in one sign in rashi chart ...for example ju and ma both are in Leo...both become samdharmi to each other....ma has low points so Ma can replace Ju "6.Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO"This is case where Ju is in Leo in rashi chart and Ma is in Leo in navamsa..... both are in Leo and become samdharmi"8.Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO"This is case where Ju with 5 point in Tarus and placed in 4th house....so LoD for 7th house is Ve and Ju can give result due to its placement so samdharmi to Ve ....can replace Ve"9.If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra NO"This is case Ju is with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ......and Ra represents Su/St......so Ju samdharmi to Su/St.....I Think this is my mistake we should not consider Ra as it does not have rulership of any sign"Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO"I think this is again not true as per your emails and lessons as well.......rather Mo natural samdharmi to Ma.......... ...Mo can replace Ma.However i have not got root cause/main reason for this ......rather what i think is Mo can not be boss .....Please clarify or provide any means where should i look?------------ ------ Regards, DevisinghAnup. M wrote: Dear Devi singh ji, My understanding is as per CAPS below. Regards Anup --- On Wed, 11/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com>Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chartastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comWednesday, 11 November, 2009, 6:30 PM Dear Anup ji,Thank you ....for corrections on emails.....this will keep me on track and avoiding out of track.If Planets in navamsa have 4:10 relation we should not consider them samdharmi that is input for me.Below is my understanding related to samdharmi what is gathered upto 2000 emails of achieves.... .putting here so may be help full to other members as well please have a look and comment on them where requires...i have arranged them on priority basis please provides your valuable comment for them where required Planets making 4:10 in rashi (offcourse boss and subordinate analogy) YES All Planets cojoin in sign NO Planet is samdharmi to Lord of nakshtra sign YES All Planets in same nakshatra YES All Planets cojoin in navamsa YES Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO Planet is samdharmi to Lord navamsa sign YES Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra NO Ra is samdharmi to sign lord and navamsa lord and planet cojoin in navamsa YES Yes it is my mistake mo,ju,ma are not natural samdharmi as per KAS......Please forgive me i might done it knowingly but not intentionallyIn kalpurush chart ....looking 4:10St and Ve are samdharmi to each other....can replace each otherSu samdharmi to Ma...Su can replace Ma YESMa samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO------------ ------ Regards, DevisinghAnup. M wrote: Dear Devi singh ji, I think samdharmi concept is not clear somewhere in your mail Pleae note that .. MOON AND JU ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI JU AND MARS ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI. Also we do not consider 4:10 relation in navamsa. Regards Anup --- On Tue, 10/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com>Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chartastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comTuesday, 10 November, 2009, 6:56 PM Dear All;Some more thoughts to fix antraSt full delay but st have moved 15 degree so considering 27.5-1.3=26. 3 year initial valueJu aspects Hb in navamsa but is is in libra with rahu in navamsa and in nakshtra of St so it can not check to saturn so full delay no help from Ju to reduce delay as staus of Ju is not goodno zero in SAV so no addition in delayBlessing in navamsa but can not help to reduce delaySt is with Ra in rashi so more affilicted add delayMo aspected by Ra in rashi and St cojoin in navamsa ,As lumanaries are aspected so that will add delay Main dasha lord Mo is OK as karka to give 7th house eventsMo-MoMo LoD and Natural Samdharmi to Ju can give eventBut I think this would not be case as some what delay have to be addedMo-MaJu and Ma both in cancer one in rasi and another in navamsa makes them samdharmiJu and Ma both are natural samdharmiJu and Ma 4:10 in rashi/navamsaJu LoE and high point So Event can be in 3rd sector of it.Mo-RaRa represnts Su/Ve....considerin g more like Ve NK FK.... and cojoin Ju in navamsa so samdahrmi to Ju so Event can be in 3rd sector of it.......seems not wise choice still to meMo-JuJu Can give Event in 3rd Sector on itwill come up with more thought as gets educated to this system------------ ------ Regards, Devisinghdevisigh wrote: Dear Ash ji,NamaskarSincere thanks for your words attitude intension and time. I am trying my all time what i can collect to study this system. I guess this can takes time may be 3year (less points till that time also indicate hardwork and busy for me) Will continue my attempt/doubts hope for comments from moderators for same.I am enjoying achieves thanks to Krushna,sanjay, Donna,Peter, Magritta and all very nice considering old time and situation.hope that will helps me to understand and utilize system and finally to absorb root or essence of system so other all system and vedic text can be clarified with same so better results can be obtained related to timing of events.Everybody is trying/pushing here only to help others using there own approach It is really appreciated GOD WILL HELP THEM WHO HELPED OTHERSPlease find below is thought process/approach:I am taking acceptance that person is not mentally retired and birth details are correct no rectification requiredQuality of 7th house: checking Ju in Libra in rashi/navamsa. ...navamsa has that...it is RK,NRK and LoE..seems not good for marriage. checking Ve nakshatra in rashi...bharni. ..ok checking Su and Ve distance in rashi...less then 43...ok checking Ve is with Ra,St or aspect in rashi/navamsa. ....Ve is with St in navamsa....spoils Ve more checking LoA,LoB,LoC, LoD,LoE in rashi.....Ve, St..Mo,Ju checking planets with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ..Sa and Ju.....St is LoC and Ju is loE for 7th house and LoA for 5th house. checking Ra aspects on house in rashi/navamsa. ..9,12,2. .7,9,11.. 12th is HoE,2nd is HoA,9th is karak for HoA and HoC for child..7th is HB,11th is HC checking Ra aspects on planets in rashi and navamsa...Me, Su......Me 6th lord become more malefic and Su LoB for child case checking for planets with 6th/12th lord in rashi/navamsa. .... Ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord.....me is with ve in navamsa spoils ve. checking for aspects on house in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... checking for aspects on planets in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... cheking malefic aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....Ju with 5 points aspects to HoE,Ve with 6 points aspects to HB cheking benific aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....St with 2 points also LoC aspects to HB,HA and Mo aspects to HB Blessings,compatibi lity,DBCE, strong house,strong planets: as usual to be looked will look another time Finding significator: checking for 2nd lord in rashi......Ve is 2nd lord...Ve antra will bring more pain looking at 2,7,11 lords...ve and st....ve is with 6 points and st is with 2 points ....left st less points and left ve 2nd lord looking at 2,7,11 occupents ...me and su...me is with 7 points and su is with 4 points ...left su less points and left me 6th lord looking at 4,12 occupents... ju and ke(ju/ju)... so ju....ju is with 5 points ....considering ju ...left as in Libra and aspect malefic to HOE consider Reperesnter for Ra/Ke...Su,Ve/ Ju,Ju.... ..left Ra as alresdy left su and ve,left ke as already left ju looking at 4,12 lords....Mo, ju....considerin g moon as already left ju....mo may act......... still requires more time for me to finalise ------------ ------ Regards, DevisinghAsh's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca wrote: Dear Devisingh ji, Very nice attempt. Please continue your chain of thought. Try to find the antra that you think might give marriage. Just go upto antra. So first compute the delay and there after start to think over the best possible period that u think can give the event. However, do write your thinking process. That will help one figure out where you are going away or your confusion. Well Done. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan dtimingevents] On Behalf Of devisighThursday November 5, 2009 6:42 AMastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comRe: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart Dear All;My first attempt using KAS rules/techniques only7th house marriage:selecting Mo main Dasha which is with FK Ve for 7th houseSu and Ju seems significator from ws points for 7th houseother planets aspects 7th house i left themSu is with Me which is 6th load makes Su samdharmi to 6th lord i left thatJu having highest points and also LoEnow considering Ju only as strong significator which in RK and NRK and natural samdharmi to Mo which is LoD.Ju does not have sight on A/B/C and is LoE can gives resultsThinking for samdharmi of Juin navamsa Ju is with Ra ...makes Ju and Ra samdharmi Ra can be thought to facilitate results for 7th house matters .......still this takes time for me to finalize------------ ------ Regards, Devisinghashsam73 wrote: Dear Nikhlesh ji,You are correct. It was a typo. It was good that I gave the degree of all planets so this mistake could be checked right in the begining.Thanks Nikhlesh ji.The date should be May 24th.24th May 19794:10 AM28N4077E13Sorry about that.Cheers !!!Ash -> http://www.ashtro. caastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "nikhlesh mathur" <nikhleshmathur@ ...> wrote:>> > > Sub: 24th Feb 1979, 4.10 am, 28.N.40, 77.E.13> Dear Ash ji,> > You said that Su is 9Ta31 for the above native. But a person born on the month of Feb cannot have his Sun in Taurus sign. It should be in Aquarius at this time.> > If other things are okay then I think the birth date is 24th May.> > Please confirm.> > Regards,> Nikhlesh Mathur> > > On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:47:29 +0530 wrote> >> > Add to> this.> > > 6) When> can the native face health problems?> > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca> > > > > > Ash's Corner [kas] > Monday October 26, 2009> 12:18 AM> To:> 'astrologyandtiming events@grou ps.com'> Practice Chart> > > Dear> Group,> > > > This> lady has been posting charts in various lists for many years now. > > > > Here is> the chart > > > > 24th> Feb 1979> > 4:10 AM> > 28N40> > 77E13> > > > From> what I gather, she had an affair or liked some guy that she wanted to> marry. I am not clear from her posts> that if she married the same guy or not.> Her parents were looking out for some proposals for her.> > > > If this> chart came blindly to you, can you predict the following.> > > > 1)> Marriage> > 2)> Child birth> > 3)> Marital Relations overall> > 4)> She has been complaining that relations are bad after marriage and> asked if she should go for divorce.> > 5)> Why she had affair or what are the yogs for that in this chart. > > > > > > > > > Planet> > > Degrees> > > > > As> > > 15 Ar 55> > > > > Su> > > 9 Ta 31> > > > > Mo> > > 13 Ar 48> > > > > Ma> > > 13 Ar 8> > > > > Me> > > 2 Ta 15> > > > > Ju> > > 11 Cn 16> > > > > Ve> > > 14 Ar 30> > > > > Sa> > > 14 Le 35> > > > > Ra> > > 20 Le 59> > > > > Ke> > > 20 Aq 59> > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca> The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. 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Guest guest Report post Posted November 12, 2009 Dear Hussein ji? What law is that?????   Please explain or show me the mail number so I can read that and understand what context? Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Hussein Thursday November 12, 2009 2:49 PM To: Subject: Re: Practice Chart Dear Ash ji I think another rule which is available for SDs is that :the planets which are in the exaltation sign or are in their own kendra are SD for each other. Best Wishes Hussein , " Ash's Corner " <kas wrote: > > Dear Bella ji, > > Just one small correction from my side on my earlier mail. > > The order or SD will be > > 1) 4:10 > 2) Same Sign & Nak > 3) Same Navamsa > 4) Navamsa lord > 5) Nakshatra lord. > > NSD if they get a chance they will give, that depends on fixed relationship as per natural chart. So there is no order for the same. Except that if they are in 1:7 then they cease to become NSD’s. > > The reason for the above order is that if you notice that the last 2 are only one way, means planet comes sd to navamsa lord or nak lord so its one way. Means planet can replace the nav lord or nak lord if they are unable to give the result but not vice versa. > When planets are in same navamsa then they are 2 way means both can replace each other. > > Hence the distinction. > > Just try to understand the essence of the same. > Cheers !!! > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > On Behalf Of BPShiv > Thursday November 12, 2009 12:48 PM > > Re: Re: Practice Chart > > >  > Dear Devi Singh ji, > My answers are in purple. Seniors please correct my errors as this is the very basic portion of KAS that we are strengthening. > > > Please clarify CAPS...this is new to me? > > " 2.All Planets cojoin in sign NO " > By this i mean to say if two planets are in one sign in rashi chart ...for example ju and ma both are in Leo...both become samdharmi to each other....ma has low points so Ma can replace Ju > NO. Not in Rasi BUT YES in navamsa. If Ju and Ma are in Leo in Rasi they cannot be SD but if they are in same navamsa then they are SD. > In Rasi Ju and Ma have to be in the same sign AND also in the same nakshatra. > > " 6.Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO " > This is case where Ju is in Leo in rashi chart and Ma is in Leo in navamsa.....both are in Leo and become samdharmi > No. But according to lesson 25 they could be SD if they both have more points. > > " 8.Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO " > This is case where Ju with 5 point in Tarus and placed in 4th house....so LoD for 7th house is Ve and Ju can give result due to its placement so samdharmi to Ve ....can replace Ve > NO. Planet is not SD to sign Lo itself in Rasi. > Here in your example if you are talking about 4:10 relationship than if Ju has 5 bindus in 4th place and if Ma is in 10th place with 3 bindus than Ju can be SD to Ma provided it has more bindus. > > " 9.If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra NO " > This is case Ju is with Ra in rashi/navamsa.......and Ra represents Su/St......so Ju samdharmi to Su/St.....I Think this is my mistake we should not consider Ra as it does not have rulership of any sign > > > > NO. Ju is not SD to Su. > In this case if Ju is with Ra in rasi they are not SD. If they are in Leo that means Ra represents Su. Also we have to see nakshatra Lo that Ra is in. Say Ra is in nakshatra of Ve and from two of them whichever has more bindus Ra will represent like them. If Ve has 5 bindus and Su has 3 bindus than Ra will be more like Ve and less like Su also have to check the points in WS. > Now if Ra is with Ju in Sa navamsa than Ra is SD to Ju and SD to Sa. > To summarize this ex. Ra REPRESENTS Ve and is SD to Ju and Sa. > > " Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO " > I think this is again not true as per your emails and lessons as well.......rather Mo natural samdharmi to Ma.............Mo can replace Ma. > However i have not got root cause/main reason for this ......rather what i think is Mo can not be boss .....Please clarify or provide any means where should i look? > > > > Yes. If Ma is in navamsa of Mo than Ma is SD to Mo and Ma can fill in for Mo. > Also, please refer to Ash ji's msg # 20953 link. Nice update and more clarifications. > > Thank you, > -Bella. > > > > - > Anup. M <dalh_1 > > Thursday, November 12, 2009 8:48 AM > Re: Re: Practice Chart > > > > > Dear Devi singh ji, > > > Just wait,i hope members over here will try to explain you > regarding your confusions. > > > Regards > Anup > > > --- On Thu, 12/11/09, devisigh devisingh.rajput wrote: > > devisigh devisingh.rajput > Re: Re: Practice Chart > > Thursday, 12 November, 2009, 7:28 PM > > Dear Anup ji, > > It is really wondering for me.....something i guess incorrect in drafting/representa tion by me...let me try one more time in better way..... > > Please clarify CAPS...this is new to me? > > " 2.All Planets cojoin in sign NO " > By this i mean to say if two planets are in one sign in rashi chart ...for example ju and ma both are in Leo...both become samdharmi to each other....ma has low points so Ma can replace Ju > > " 6.Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO " > This is case where Ju is in Leo in rashi chart and Ma is in Leo in navamsa..... both are in Leo and become samdharmi > > " 8.Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO " > This is case where Ju with 5 point in Tarus and placed in 4th house....so LoD for 7th house is Ve and Ju can give result due to its placement so samdharmi to Ve ....can replace Ve > > " 9.If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra NO " > This is case Ju is with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ......and Ra represents Su/St......so Ju samdharmi to Su/St.....I Think this is my mistake we should not consider Ra as it does not have rulership of any sign > > " Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO " > I think this is again not true as per your emails and lessons as well.......rather Mo natural samdharmi to Ma.......... ...Mo can replace Ma. > However i have not got root cause/main reason for this ......rather what i think is Mo can not be boss .....Please clarify or provide any means where should i look? > > ------------ ------ > Regards, > Devisingh > > > Anup. M wrote: > > > Dear Devi singh ji, > > > My understanding is as per CAPS below. > > Regards > Anup > > > --- On Wed, 11/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: > > devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> > Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > Wednesday, 11 November, 2009, 6:30 PM > > Dear Anup ji, > > Thank you ....for corrections on emails.....this will keep me on track and avoiding out of track. > > If Planets in navamsa have 4:10 relation we should not consider them samdharmi that is input for me. > > Below is my understanding related to samdharmi what is gathered upto 2000 emails of achieves.... .putting here so may be help full to other members as well please have a look and comment on them where requires...i have arranged them on priority basis please provides your valuable comment for them where required > 1. Planets making 4:10 in rashi (offcourse boss and subordinate analogy) YES > 2. All Planets cojoin in sign NO > 3. Planet is samdharmi to Lord of nakshtra sign YES > 4. All Planets in same nakshatra YES > 5. All Planets cojoin in navamsa YES > 6. Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO > 7. Planet is samdharmi to Lord navamsa sign YES > 8. Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO > 9. If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra NO > 10. > 11. Ra is samdharmi to sign lord and navamsa lord and planet cojoin in navamsa YES > > Yes it is my mistake mo,ju,ma are not natural samdharmi as per KAS......Please forgive me i might done it knowingly but not intentionally > In kalpurush chart ....looking 4:10 > St and Ve are samdharmi to each other....can replace each other > Su samdharmi to Ma...Su can replace Ma YES > Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO > ------------ ------ > Regards, > Devisingh > > Anup. M wrote: > > > Dear Devi singh ji, > > > I think samdharmi concept is not clear somewhere in your mail > > Pleae note that .. > MOON AND JU ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI > JU AND MARS ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI. > > Also we do not consider 4:10 relation in navamsa. > > > Regards > Anup > > > > --- On Tue, 10/11/09, devisigh <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=devisingh.rajput@... <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: > > devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> > Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > Tuesday, 10 November, 2009, 6:56 PM > > Dear All; > > Some more thoughts to fix antra > > St full delay but st have moved 15 degree so considering 27.5-1.3=26. 3 year initial value > Ju aspects Hb in navamsa but is is in libra with rahu in navamsa and in nakshtra of St so it can not check to saturn so full delay no help from Ju to reduce delay as staus of Ju is not good > > no zero in SAV so no addition in delay > Blessing in navamsa but can not help to reduce delay > St is with Ra in rashi so more affilicted add delay > Mo aspected by Ra in rashi and St cojoin in navamsa ,As lumanaries are aspected so that will add delay > > Main dasha lord Mo is OK as karka to give 7th house events > > Mo-Mo > Mo LoD and Natural Samdharmi to Ju can give event > > But I think this would not be case as some what delay have to be added > > Mo-Ma > Ju and Ma both in cancer one in rasi and another in navamsa makes them samdharmi > Ju and Ma both are natural samdharmi > Ju and Ma 4:10 in rashi/navamsa > Ju LoE and high point So Event can be in 3rd sector of it. > > > Mo-Ra > Ra represnts Su/Ve....considerin g more like Ve NK FK.... and cojoin Ju in navamsa so samdahrmi to Ju > > so Event can be in 3rd sector of it.......seems not wise choice still to me > > Mo-Ju > Ju Can give Event in 3rd Sector on it > > will come up with more thought as gets educated to this system > ------------ ------ > Regards, > Devisingh > > devisigh wrote: > Dear Ash ji, > > Namaskar > > Sincere thanks for your words attitude intension and time. > > I am trying my all time what i can collect to study this system. > I guess this can takes time may be 3year (less points till that time also indicate hardwork and busy for me) Will continue my attempt/doubts hope for comments from moderators for same. > I am enjoying achieves thanks to Krushna,sanjay, Donna,Peter, Magritta and all very nice considering old time and situation. > hope that will helps me to understand and utilize system and finally to absorb root or essence of system so other all system and vedic text can be clarified with same so better results can be obtained related to timing of events. > Everybody is trying/pushing here only to help others using there own approach It is really appreciated GOD WILL HELP THEM WHO HELPED OTHERS > > Please find below is thought process/approach: > I am taking acceptance that person is not mentally retired and birth details are correct no rectification required > > Quality of 7th house: > * checking Ju in Libra in rashi/navamsa. ...navamsa has that...it is RK,NRK and LoE..seems not good for marriage. > * checking Ve nakshatra in rashi...bharni. ..ok > * checking Su and Ve distance in rashi...less then 43...ok > * checking Ve is with Ra,St or aspect in rashi/navamsa. ....Ve is with St in navamsa....spoils Ve more > * checking LoA,LoB,LoC, LoD,LoE in rashi.....Ve, St..Mo,Ju > * checking planets with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ..Sa and Ju.....St is LoC and Ju is loE for 7th house and LoA for 5th house. > * checking Ra aspects on house in rashi/navamsa. ..9,12,2. .7,9,11.. 12th is HoE,2nd is HoA,9th is karak for HoA and HoC for child..7th is HB,11th is HC > * checking Ra aspects on planets in rashi and navamsa...Me, Su......Me 6th lord become more malefic and Su LoB for child case > * checking for planets with 6th/12th lord in rashi/navamsa. .... Ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord.....me is with ve in navamsa spoils ve. > * checking for aspects on house in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... > * checking for aspects on planets in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... > * cheking malefic aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....Ju with 5 points aspects to HoE,Ve with 6 points aspects to HB > * cheking benific aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....St with 2 points also LoC aspects to HB,HA and Mo aspects to HB > Blessings,compatibi lity,DBCE, strong house,strong planets: > * as usual to be looked will look another time > Finding significator: > * checking for 2nd lord in rashi......Ve is 2nd lord...Ve antra will bring more pain > * looking at 2,7,11 lords...ve and st....ve is with 6 points and st is with 2 points ....left st less points and left ve 2nd lord > * looking at 2,7,11 occupents ...me and su...me is with 7 points and su is with 4 points ...left su less points and left me 6th lord > * looking at 4,12 occupents... ju and ke(ju/ju)... so ju....ju is with 5 points ....considering ju ...left as in Libra and aspect malefic to HOE > * consider Reperesnter for Ra/Ke...Su,Ve/ Ju,Ju.... ..left Ra as alresdy left su and ve,left ke as already left ju > * looking at 4,12 lords....Mo, ju....considerin g moon as already left ju....mo may act......... still requires more time for me to finalise > > ------------ ------ > Regards, > Devisingh > > Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=Corner@... wrote: > > Dear Devisingh ji, > > Very nice attempt. Please continue your chain of thought. > Try to find the antra that you think might give marriage. Just go upto antra. > So first compute the delay and there after start to think over the best possible period that u think can give the event. > However, do write your thinking process. That will help one figure out where you are going away or your confusion. > Well Done. > Cheers !!! > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro. ca > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=astrologyan> dtimingevents@ . com] On Behalf Of devisigh > Thursday November 5, 2009 6:42 AM > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart > > Dear All; > > My first attempt using KAS rules/techniques only > > 7th house marriage: > selecting Mo main Dasha which is with FK Ve for 7th house > Su and Ju seems significator from ws points for 7th house > other planets aspects 7th house i left them > Su is with Me which is 6th load makes Su samdharmi to 6th lord i left that > Ju having highest points and also LoE > now considering Ju only as strong significator which in RK and NRK and natural samdharmi to Mo which is LoD. > Ju does not have sight on A/B/C and is LoE can gives results > > Thinking for samdharmi of Ju > in navamsa Ju is with Ra ...makes Ju and Ra samdharmi > Ra can be thought to facilitate results for 7th house matters .......still this takes time for me to finalize > > ------------ ------ > Regards, > Devisingh > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear Nikhlesh ji, > > You are correct. It was a typo. It was good that I gave the degree of all planets so this mistake could be checked right in the begining. > > Thanks Nikhlesh ji. > > The date should be May 24th. > > 24th May 1979 > 4:10 AM > 28N40 > 77E13 > > Sorry about that. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=%40> , " nikhlesh mathur " <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=nikhleshmathur@ <nikhleshmathur@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Sub: 24th Feb 1979, 4.10 am, 28.N.40, 77.E.13 > > Dear Ash ji, > > > > You said that Su is 9Ta31 for the above native. But a person born on the month of Feb cannot have his Sun in Taurus sign. It should be in Aquarius at this time. > > > > If other things are okay then I think the birth date is 24th May. > > > > Please confirm. > > > > Regards, > > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:47:29 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > Add to > > this. > > > > > > 6) When > > can the native face health problems? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash's Corner@ [kas@ <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=kas@> ....] > > Monday October 26, 2009 > > 12:18 AM > > To: > > 'astrologyandtiming events@grou ps.com <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=%27%40> ' > > Practice Chart > > > > > > Dear > > Group, > > > > > > > > This > > lady has been posting charts in various lists for many years now. > > > > > > > > Here is > > the chart > > > > > > > > 24th > > Feb 1979 > > > > 4:10 AM > > > > 28N40 > > > > 77E13 > > > > > > > > From > > what I gather, she had an affair or liked some guy that she wanted to > > marry. I am not clear from her posts > > that if she married the same guy or not. > > Her parents were looking out for some proposals for her. > > > > > > > > If this > > chart came blindly to you, can you predict the following. > > > > > > > > 1) > > Marriage > > > > 2) > > Child birth > > > > 3) > > Marital Relations overall > > > > 4) > > She has been complaining that relations are bad after marriage and > > asked if she should go for divorce. > > > > 5) > > Why she had affair or what are the yogs for that in this chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet > > > > > > Degrees > > > > > > > > > > As > > > > > > 15 Ar 55 > > > > > > > > > > Su > > > > > > 9 Ta 31 > > > > > > > > > > Mo > > > > > > 13 Ar 48 > > > > > > > > > > Ma > > > > > > 13 Ar 8 > > > > > > > > > > Me > > > > > > 2 Ta 15 > > > > > > > > > > Ju > > > > > > 11 Cn 16 > > > > > > > > > > Ve > > > > > > 14 Ar 30 > > > > > > > > > > Sa > > > > > > 14 Le 35 > > > > > > > > > > Ra > > > > > > 20 Le 59 > > > > > > > > > > Ke > > > > > > 20 Aq 59 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca > > > > > _____ > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Report post Posted November 12, 2009 are you refering to the sloka in Saravali that was mentioned in Samdharmi lesson on KAS Pravin list? Nir. , " Hussein " <ahahosien wrote: > > Dear Ash ji > > I think another rule which is available for SDs is that :the planets > which are in the exaltation sign or > > are in their own kendra are SD for each other. > > Best Wishes > > Hussein > , " Ash's Corner@ " > <kas@> wrote: > > > > Dear Bella ji, > > > > Just one small correction from my side on my earlier mail. > > > > The order or SD will be > > > > 1) 4:10 > > 2) Same Sign & Nak > > 3) Same Navamsa > > 4) Navamsa lord > > 5) Nakshatra lord. > > > > NSD if they get a chance they will give, that depends on fixed > relationship as per natural chart. So there is no order for the same. > Except that if they are in 1:7 then they cease to become NSD’s. > > > > The reason for the above order is that if you notice that the last 2 > are only one way, means planet comes sd to navamsa lord or nak lord so > its one way. Means planet can replace the nav lord or nak lord if they > are unable to give the result but not vice versa. > > When planets are in same navamsa then they are 2 way means both can > replace each other. > > > > Hence the distinction. > > > > Just try to understand the essence of the same. > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > On Behalf Of BPShiv > > Thursday November 12, 2009 12:48 PM > > > > Re: Re: Practice Chart > > > > > >  > > Dear Devi Singh ji, > > My answers are in purple. Seniors please correct my errors as this is > the very basic portion of KAS that we are strengthening. > > > > > > Please clarify CAPS...this is new to me? > > > > " 2.All Planets cojoin in sign NO " > > By this i mean to say if two planets are in one sign in rashi chart > ...for example ju and ma both are in Leo...both become samdharmi to each > other....ma has low points so Ma can replace Ju > > NO. Not in Rasi BUT YES in navamsa. If Ju and Ma are in Leo in Rasi > they cannot be SD but if they are in same navamsa then they are SD. > > In Rasi Ju and Ma have to be in the same sign AND also in the same > nakshatra. > > > > " 6.Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO " > > This is case where Ju is in Leo in rashi chart and Ma is in Leo in > navamsa.....both are in Leo and become samdharmi > > No. But according to lesson 25 they could be SD if they both have more > points. > > > > " 8.Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD > more then 4 points are expected) NO " > > This is case where Ju with 5 point in Tarus and placed in 4th > house....so LoD for 7th house is Ve and Ju can give result due to its > placement so samdharmi to Ve ....can replace Ve > > NO. Planet is not SD to sign Lo itself in Rasi. > > Here in your example if you are talking about 4:10 relationship than > if Ju has 5 bindus in 4th place and if Ma is in 10th place with 3 bindus > than Ju can be SD to Ma provided it has more bindus. > > > > " 9.If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be > 2-3) instead Ra NO " > > This is case Ju is with Ra in rashi/navamsa.......and Ra represents > Su/St......so Ju samdharmi to Su/St.....I Think this is my mistake we > should not consider Ra as it does not have rulership of any sign > > > > > > > > NO. Ju is not SD to Su. > > In this case if Ju is with Ra in rasi they are not SD. If they are in > Leo that means Ra represents Su. Also we have to see nakshatra Lo that > Ra is in. Say Ra is in nakshatra of Ve and from two of them whichever > has more bindus Ra will represent like them. If Ve has 5 bindus and Su > has 3 bindus than Ra will be more like Ve and less like Su also have to > check the points in WS. > > Now if Ra is with Ju in Sa navamsa than Ra is SD to Ju and SD to Sa. > > To summarize this ex. Ra REPRESENTS Ve and is SD to Ju and Sa. > > > > " Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO " > > I think this is again not true as per your emails and lessons as > well.......rather Mo natural samdharmi to Ma.............Mo can replace > Ma. > > However i have not got root cause/main reason for this ......rather > what i think is Mo can not be boss .....Please clarify or provide any > means where should i look? > > > > > > > > Yes. If Ma is in navamsa of Mo than Ma is SD to Mo and Ma can fill in > for Mo. > > Also, please refer to Ash ji's msg # 20953 link. Nice update and more > clarifications. > > > > Thank you, > > -Bella. > > > > > > > > - > > Anup. M <dalh_1@ > > > > Thursday, November 12, 2009 8:48 AM > > Re: Re: Practice Chart > > > > > > > > > > Dear Devi singh ji, > > > > > > Just wait,i hope members over here will try to explain you > > regarding your confusions. > > > > > > Regards > > Anup > > > > > > --- On Thu, 12/11/09, devisigh devisingh.rajput@ wrote: > > > > devisigh devisingh.rajput@ > > Re: Re: Practice Chart > > > > Thursday, 12 November, 2009, 7:28 PM > > > > Dear Anup ji, > > > > It is really wondering for me.....something i guess incorrect in > drafting/representa tion by me...let me try one more time in better > way..... > > > > Please clarify CAPS...this is new to me? > > > > " 2.All Planets cojoin in sign NO " > > By this i mean to say if two planets are in one sign in rashi chart > ...for example ju and ma both are in Leo...both become samdharmi to each > other....ma has low points so Ma can replace Ju > > > > " 6.Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO " > > This is case where Ju is in Leo in rashi chart and Ma is in Leo in > navamsa..... both are in Leo and become samdharmi > > > > " 8.Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD > more then 4 points are expected) NO " > > This is case where Ju with 5 point in Tarus and placed in 4th > house....so LoD for 7th house is Ve and Ju can give result due to its > placement so samdharmi to Ve ....can replace Ve > > > > " 9.If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be > 2-3) instead Ra NO " > > This is case Ju is with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ......and Ra represents > Su/St......so Ju samdharmi to Su/St.....I Think this is my mistake we > should not consider Ra as it does not have rulership of any sign > > > > " Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO " > > I think this is again not true as per your emails and lessons as > well.......rather Mo natural samdharmi to Ma.......... ...Mo can replace > Ma. > > However i have not got root cause/main reason for this ......rather > what i think is Mo can not be boss .....Please clarify or provide any > means where should i look? > > > > ------------ ------ > > Regards, > > Devisingh > > > > > > Anup. M wrote: > > > > > > Dear Devi singh ji, > > > > > > My understanding is as per CAPS below. > > > > Regards > > Anup > > > > > > --- On Wed, 11/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> > > Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > Wednesday, 11 November, 2009, 6:30 PM > > > > Dear Anup ji, > > > > Thank you ....for corrections on emails.....this will keep me on > track and avoiding out of track. > > > > If Planets in navamsa have 4:10 relation we should not consider them > samdharmi that is input for me. > > > > Below is my understanding related to samdharmi what is gathered upto > 2000 emails of achieves.... .putting here so may be help full to other > members as well please have a look and comment on them where > requires...i have arranged them on priority basis please provides your > valuable comment for them where required > > 1. Planets making 4:10 in rashi (offcourse boss and subordinate > analogy) YES > > 2. All Planets cojoin in sign NO > > 3. Planet is samdharmi to Lord of nakshtra sign YES > > 4. All Planets in same nakshatra YES > > 5. All Planets cojoin in navamsa YES > > 6. Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO > > 7. Planet is samdharmi to Lord navamsa sign YES > > 8. Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD > more then 4 points are expected) NO > > 9. If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be > 2-3) instead Ra NO > > 10. > > 11. Ra is samdharmi to sign lord and navamsa lord and planet cojoin in > navamsa YES > > > > Yes it is my mistake mo,ju,ma are not natural samdharmi as per > KAS......Please forgive me i might done it knowingly but not > intentionally > > In kalpurush chart ....looking 4:10 > > St and Ve are samdharmi to each other....can replace each other > > Su samdharmi to Ma...Su can replace Ma YES > > Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO > > ------------ ------ > > Regards, > > Devisingh > > > > Anup. M wrote: > > > > > > Dear Devi singh ji, > > > > > > I think samdharmi concept is not clear somewhere in your mail > > > > Pleae note that .. > > MOON AND JU ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI > > JU AND MARS ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI. > > > > Also we do not consider 4:10 relation in navamsa. > > > > > > Regards > > Anup > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 10/11/09, devisigh > <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=devisingh.rajput@ > <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> > > Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > Tuesday, 10 November, 2009, 6:56 PM > > > > Dear All; > > > > Some more thoughts to fix antra > > > > St full delay but st have moved 15 degree so considering 27.5-1.3=26. > 3 year initial value > > Ju aspects Hb in navamsa but is is in libra with rahu in navamsa and > in nakshtra of St so it can not check to saturn so full delay no help > from Ju to reduce delay as staus of Ju is not good > > > > no zero in SAV so no addition in delay > > Blessing in navamsa but can not help to reduce delay > > St is with Ra in rashi so more affilicted add delay > > Mo aspected by Ra in rashi and St cojoin in navamsa ,As lumanaries are > aspected so that will add delay > > > > Main dasha lord Mo is OK as karka to give 7th house events > > > > Mo-Mo > > Mo LoD and Natural Samdharmi to Ju can give event > > > > But I think this would not be case as some what delay have to be added > > > > Mo-Ma > > Ju and Ma both in cancer one in rasi and another in navamsa makes them > samdharmi > > Ju and Ma both are natural samdharmi > > Ju and Ma 4:10 in rashi/navamsa > > Ju LoE and high point So Event can be in 3rd sector of it. > > > > > > Mo-Ra > > Ra represnts Su/Ve....considerin g more like Ve NK FK.... and cojoin > Ju in navamsa so samdahrmi to Ju > > > > so Event can be in 3rd sector of it.......seems not wise choice still > to me > > > > Mo-Ju > > Ju Can give Event in 3rd Sector on it > > > > will come up with more thought as gets educated to this system > > ------------ ------ > > Regards, > > Devisingh > > > > devisigh wrote: > > Dear Ash ji, > > > > Namaskar > > > > Sincere thanks for your words attitude intension and time. > > > > I am trying my all time what i can collect to study this system. > > I guess this can takes time may be 3year (less points till that time > also indicate hardwork and busy for me) Will continue my attempt/doubts > hope for comments from moderators for same. > > I am enjoying achieves thanks to Krushna,sanjay, Donna,Peter, Magritta > and all very nice considering old time and situation. > > hope that will helps me to understand and utilize system and finally > to absorb root or essence of system so other all system and vedic text > can be clarified with same so better results can be obtained related to > timing of events. > > Everybody is trying/pushing here only to help others using there own > approach It is really appreciated GOD WILL HELP THEM WHO HELPED OTHERS > > > > Please find below is thought process/approach: > > I am taking acceptance that person is not mentally retired and birth > details are correct no rectification required > > > > Quality of 7th house: > > * checking Ju in Libra in rashi/navamsa. ...navamsa has that...it is > RK,NRK and LoE..seems not good for marriage. > > * checking Ve nakshatra in rashi...bharni. ..ok > > * checking Su and Ve distance in rashi...less then 43...ok > > * checking Ve is with Ra,St or aspect in rashi/navamsa. ....Ve is with > St in navamsa....spoils Ve more > > * checking LoA,LoB,LoC, LoD,LoE in rashi.....Ve, St..Mo,Ju > > * checking planets with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ..Sa and Ju.....St is LoC > and Ju is loE for 7th house and LoA for 5th house. > > * checking Ra aspects on house in rashi/navamsa. ..9,12,2. .7,9,11.. > 12th is HoE,2nd is HoA,9th is karak for HoA and HoC for child..7th is > HB,11th is HC > > * checking Ra aspects on planets in rashi and navamsa...Me, Su......Me > 6th lord become more malefic and Su LoB for child case > > * checking for planets with 6th/12th lord in rashi/navamsa. .... Ju is > 6th lord and me is 12th lord.....me is with ve in navamsa spoils ve. > > * checking for aspects on house in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... > ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... > > * checking for aspects on planets in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th > lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... > > * cheking malefic aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....Ju with 5 points > aspects to HoE,Ve with 6 points aspects to HB > > * cheking benific aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....St with 2 points also > LoC aspects to HB,HA and Mo aspects to HB > > Blessings,compatibi lity,DBCE, strong house,strong planets: > > * as usual to be looked will look another time > > Finding significator: > > * checking for 2nd lord in rashi......Ve is 2nd lord...Ve antra will > bring more pain > > * looking at 2,7,11 lords...ve and st....ve is with 6 points and st is > with 2 points ....left st less points and left ve 2nd lord > > * looking at 2,7,11 occupents ...me and su...me is with 7 points and > su is with 4 points ...left su less points and left me 6th lord > > * looking at 4,12 occupents... ju and ke(ju/ju)... so ju....ju is with > 5 points ....considering ju ...left as in Libra and aspect malefic to > HOE > > * consider Reperesnter for Ra/Ke...Su,Ve/ Ju,Ju.... ..left Ra as > alresdy left su and ve,left ke as already left ju > > * looking at 4,12 lords....Mo, ju....considerin g moon as already left > ju....mo may act......... still requires more time for me to finalise > > > > ------------ ------ > > Regards, > > Devisingh > > > > Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca > <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=Corner@ wrote: > > > > Dear Devisingh ji, > > > > Very nice attempt. Please continue your chain of thought. > > Try to find the antra that you think might give marriage. Just go > upto antra. > > So first compute the delay and there after start to think over the > best possible period that u think can give the event. > > However, do write your thinking process. That will help one figure > out where you are going away or your confusion. > > Well Done. > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro. ca > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan > <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=astrologyan> > dtimingevents] On Behalf Of devisigh > > Thursday November 5, 2009 6:42 AM > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart > > > > Dear All; > > > > My first attempt using KAS rules/techniques only > > > > 7th house marriage: > > selecting Mo main Dasha which is with FK Ve for 7th house > > Su and Ju seems significator from ws points for 7th house > > other planets aspects 7th house i left them > > Su is with Me which is 6th load makes Su samdharmi to 6th lord i left > that > > Ju having highest points and also LoE > > now considering Ju only as strong significator which in RK and NRK and > natural samdharmi to Mo which is LoD. > > Ju does not have sight on A/B/C and is LoE can gives results > > > > Thinking for samdharmi of Ju > > in navamsa Ju is with Ra ...makes Ju and Ra samdharmi > > Ra can be thought to facilitate results for 7th house matters > .......still this takes time for me to finalize > > > > ------------ ------ > > Regards, > > Devisingh > > > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji, > > > > You are correct. It was a typo. It was good that I gave the degree of > all planets so this mistake could be checked right in the begining. > > > > Thanks Nikhlesh ji. > > > > The date should be May 24th. > > > > 24th May 1979 > > 4:10 AM > > 28N40 > > 77E13 > > > > Sorry about that. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=%4\ > 0> , " nikhlesh mathur " > <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=nikhleshmathur@ > <nikhleshmathur@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Sub: 24th Feb 1979, 4.10 am, 28.N.40, 77.E.13 > > > Dear Ash ji, > > > > > > You said that Su is 9Ta31 for the above native. But a person born on > the month of Feb cannot have his Sun in Taurus sign. It should be in > Aquarius at this time. > > > > > > If other things are okay then I think the birth date is 24th May. > > > > > > Please confirm. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:47:29 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > Add to > > > this. > > > > > > > > > 6) When > > > can the native face health problems? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash's Corner@ [kas@ > <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=kas@> ...] > > > Monday October 26, 2009 > > > 12:18 AM > > > To: > > > 'astrologyandtiming events@grou ps.com > <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=%27astrologyandtimingevent\ > s%40> ' > > > Practice Chart > > > > > > > > > Dear > > > Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > This > > > lady has been posting charts in various lists for many years now. > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is > > > the chart > > > > > > > > > > > > 24th > > > Feb 1979 > > > > > > 4:10 AM > > > > > > 28N40 > > > > > > 77E13 > > > > > > > > > > > > From > > > what I gather, she had an affair or liked some guy that she wanted > to > > > marry. I am not clear from her posts > > > that if she married the same guy or not. > > > Her parents were looking out for some proposals for her. > > > > > > > > > > > > If this > > > chart came blindly to you, can you predict the following. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) > > > Marriage > > > > > > 2) > > > Child birth > > > > > > 3) > > > Marital Relations overall > > > > > > 4) > > > She has been complaining that relations are bad after marriage and > > > asked if she should go for divorce. > > > > > > 5) > > > Why she had affair or what are the yogs for that in this chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet > > > > > > > > > Degrees > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As > > > > > > > > > 15 Ar 55 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Su > > > > > > > > > 9 Ta 31 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mo > > > > > > > > > 13 Ar 48 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ma > > > > > > > > > 13 Ar 8 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Me > > > > > > > > > 2 Ta 15 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ju > > > > > > > > > 11 Cn 16 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ve > > > > > > > > > 14 Ar 30 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sa > > > > > > > > > 14 Le 35 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra > > > > > > > > > 20 Le 59 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ke > > > > > > > > > 20 Aq 59 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage > <http://in.rd./tagline_yyi_1/*http:/in./> . > > > > > > _____ > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage > <http://in.rd./tagline_yyi_1/*http:/in./> . > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See > <http://in.rd./tagline_yyi_1/*http:/in./> your > Homepage. > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 12, 2009 It is in the message 627 in KAS Pravin list - MEANING: When two planets are in a Kendra and are exalted or own the house they are in, they become mutual karakas or significators. In the above sloka, Acharya Vishnugupt says that this happens only with respect to Kendras. One example, (as illustrated in Fig.37) for the Cancer lagna is given, with Saturn in Libra, the Moon and Jupiter in the lagna, Sun and Mars in Aries. In this case, all of them became mutual karakas. Similarly, some authors say that planets that are mutually angular though not necessarily from the ascendant are also mutual significators. For our purposes, when two planets are exalted or own the Kendra house they are in, making them mutual karakas, this is also a phenomenon that we use in this system. Thanks, Nir. , " nirvana_seeker3 " <nirvana_seeker3 wrote: > > are you refering to the sloka in Saravali that was mentioned in Samdharmi lesson on KAS Pravin list? > > Nir. > > , " Hussein " <ahahosien@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ash ji > > > > I think another rule which is available for SDs is that :the planets > > which are in the exaltation sign or > > > > are in their own kendra are SD for each other. > > > > Best Wishes > > > > Hussein > > , " Ash's Corner@ " > > <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bella ji, > > > > > > Just one small correction from my side on my earlier mail. > > > > > > The order or SD will be > > > > > > 1) 4:10 > > > 2) Same Sign & Nak > > > 3) Same Navamsa > > > 4) Navamsa lord > > > 5) Nakshatra lord. > > > > > > NSD if they get a chance they will give, that depends on fixed > > relationship as per natural chart. So there is no order for the same. > > Except that if they are in 1:7 then they cease to become NSD’s. > > > > > > The reason for the above order is that if you notice that the last 2 > > are only one way, means planet comes sd to navamsa lord or nak lord so > > its one way. Means planet can replace the nav lord or nak lord if they > > are unable to give the result but not vice versa. > > > When planets are in same navamsa then they are 2 way means both can > > replace each other. > > > > > > Hence the distinction. > > > > > > Just try to understand the essence of the same. > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of BPShiv > > > Thursday November 12, 2009 12:48 PM > > > > > > Re: Re: Practice Chart > > > > > > > > >  > > > Dear Devi Singh ji, > > > My answers are in purple. Seniors please correct my errors as this is > > the very basic portion of KAS that we are strengthening. > > > > > > > > > Please clarify CAPS...this is new to me? > > > > > > " 2.All Planets cojoin in sign NO " > > > By this i mean to say if two planets are in one sign in rashi chart > > ...for example ju and ma both are in Leo...both become samdharmi to each > > other....ma has low points so Ma can replace Ju > > > NO. Not in Rasi BUT YES in navamsa. If Ju and Ma are in Leo in Rasi > > they cannot be SD but if they are in same navamsa then they are SD. > > > In Rasi Ju and Ma have to be in the same sign AND also in the same > > nakshatra. > > > > > > " 6.Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO " > > > This is case where Ju is in Leo in rashi chart and Ma is in Leo in > > navamsa.....both are in Leo and become samdharmi > > > No. But according to lesson 25 they could be SD if they both have more > > points. > > > > > > " 8.Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD > > more then 4 points are expected) NO " > > > This is case where Ju with 5 point in Tarus and placed in 4th > > house....so LoD for 7th house is Ve and Ju can give result due to its > > placement so samdharmi to Ve ....can replace Ve > > > NO. Planet is not SD to sign Lo itself in Rasi. > > > Here in your example if you are talking about 4:10 relationship than > > if Ju has 5 bindus in 4th place and if Ma is in 10th place with 3 bindus > > than Ju can be SD to Ma provided it has more bindus. > > > > > > " 9.If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be > > 2-3) instead Ra NO " > > > This is case Ju is with Ra in rashi/navamsa.......and Ra represents > > Su/St......so Ju samdharmi to Su/St.....I Think this is my mistake we > > should not consider Ra as it does not have rulership of any sign > > > > > > > > > > > > NO. Ju is not SD to Su. > > > In this case if Ju is with Ra in rasi they are not SD. If they are in > > Leo that means Ra represents Su. Also we have to see nakshatra Lo that > > Ra is in. Say Ra is in nakshatra of Ve and from two of them whichever > > has more bindus Ra will represent like them. If Ve has 5 bindus and Su > > has 3 bindus than Ra will be more like Ve and less like Su also have to > > check the points in WS. > > > Now if Ra is with Ju in Sa navamsa than Ra is SD to Ju and SD to Sa. > > > To summarize this ex. Ra REPRESENTS Ve and is SD to Ju and Sa. > > > > > > " Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO " > > > I think this is again not true as per your emails and lessons as > > well.......rather Mo natural samdharmi to Ma.............Mo can replace > > Ma. > > > However i have not got root cause/main reason for this ......rather > > what i think is Mo can not be boss .....Please clarify or provide any > > means where should i look? > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes. If Ma is in navamsa of Mo than Ma is SD to Mo and Ma can fill in > > for Mo. > > > Also, please refer to Ash ji's msg # 20953 link. Nice update and more > > clarifications. > > > > > > Thank you, > > > -Bella. > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > Anup. M <dalh_1@ > > > > > > Thursday, November 12, 2009 8:48 AM > > > Re: Re: Practice Chart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Devi singh ji, > > > > > > > > > Just wait,i hope members over here will try to explain you > > > regarding your confusions. > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 12/11/09, devisigh devisingh.rajput@ wrote: > > > > > > devisigh devisingh.rajput@ > > > Re: Re: Practice Chart > > > > > > Thursday, 12 November, 2009, 7:28 PM > > > > > > Dear Anup ji, > > > > > > It is really wondering for me.....something i guess incorrect in > > drafting/representa tion by me...let me try one more time in better > > way..... > > > > > > Please clarify CAPS...this is new to me? > > > > > > " 2.All Planets cojoin in sign NO " > > > By this i mean to say if two planets are in one sign in rashi chart > > ...for example ju and ma both are in Leo...both become samdharmi to each > > other....ma has low points so Ma can replace Ju > > > > > > " 6.Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO " > > > This is case where Ju is in Leo in rashi chart and Ma is in Leo in > > navamsa..... both are in Leo and become samdharmi > > > > > > " 8.Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD > > more then 4 points are expected) NO " > > > This is case where Ju with 5 point in Tarus and placed in 4th > > house....so LoD for 7th house is Ve and Ju can give result due to its > > placement so samdharmi to Ve ....can replace Ve > > > > > > " 9.If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be > > 2-3) instead Ra NO " > > > This is case Ju is with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ......and Ra represents > > Su/St......so Ju samdharmi to Su/St.....I Think this is my mistake we > > should not consider Ra as it does not have rulership of any sign > > > > > > " Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO " > > > I think this is again not true as per your emails and lessons as > > well.......rather Mo natural samdharmi to Ma.......... ...Mo can replace > > Ma. > > > However i have not got root cause/main reason for this ......rather > > what i think is Mo can not be boss .....Please clarify or provide any > > means where should i look? > > > > > > ------------ ------ > > > Regards, > > > Devisingh > > > > > > > > > Anup. M wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Devi singh ji, > > > > > > > > > My understanding is as per CAPS below. > > > > > > Regards > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 11/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> > > > Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > Wednesday, 11 November, 2009, 6:30 PM > > > > > > Dear Anup ji, > > > > > > Thank you ....for corrections on emails.....this will keep me on > > track and avoiding out of track. > > > > > > If Planets in navamsa have 4:10 relation we should not consider them > > samdharmi that is input for me. > > > > > > Below is my understanding related to samdharmi what is gathered upto > > 2000 emails of achieves.... .putting here so may be help full to other > > members as well please have a look and comment on them where > > requires...i have arranged them on priority basis please provides your > > valuable comment for them where required > > > 1. Planets making 4:10 in rashi (offcourse boss and subordinate > > analogy) YES > > > 2. All Planets cojoin in sign NO > > > 3. Planet is samdharmi to Lord of nakshtra sign YES > > > 4. All Planets in same nakshatra YES > > > 5. All Planets cojoin in navamsa YES > > > 6. Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO > > > 7. Planet is samdharmi to Lord navamsa sign YES > > > 8. Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD > > more then 4 points are expected) NO > > > 9. If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be > > 2-3) instead Ra NO > > > 10. > > > 11. Ra is samdharmi to sign lord and navamsa lord and planet cojoin in > > navamsa YES > > > > > > Yes it is my mistake mo,ju,ma are not natural samdharmi as per > > KAS......Please forgive me i might done it knowingly but not > > intentionally > > > In kalpurush chart ....looking 4:10 > > > St and Ve are samdharmi to each other....can replace each other > > > Su samdharmi to Ma...Su can replace Ma YES > > > Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO > > > ------------ ------ > > > Regards, > > > Devisingh > > > > > > Anup. M wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Devi singh ji, > > > > > > > > > I think samdharmi concept is not clear somewhere in your mail > > > > > > Pleae note that .. > > > MOON AND JU ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI > > > JU AND MARS ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI. > > > > > > Also we do not consider 4:10 relation in navamsa. > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 10/11/09, devisigh > > <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=devisingh.rajput@ > > <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> > > > Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > Tuesday, 10 November, 2009, 6:56 PM > > > > > > Dear All; > > > > > > Some more thoughts to fix antra > > > > > > St full delay but st have moved 15 degree so considering 27.5-1.3=26. > > 3 year initial value > > > Ju aspects Hb in navamsa but is is in libra with rahu in navamsa and > > in nakshtra of St so it can not check to saturn so full delay no help > > from Ju to reduce delay as staus of Ju is not good > > > > > > no zero in SAV so no addition in delay > > > Blessing in navamsa but can not help to reduce delay > > > St is with Ra in rashi so more affilicted add delay > > > Mo aspected by Ra in rashi and St cojoin in navamsa ,As lumanaries are > > aspected so that will add delay > > > > > > Main dasha lord Mo is OK as karka to give 7th house events > > > > > > Mo-Mo > > > Mo LoD and Natural Samdharmi to Ju can give event > > > > > > But I think this would not be case as some what delay have to be added > > > > > > Mo-Ma > > > Ju and Ma both in cancer one in rasi and another in navamsa makes them > > samdharmi > > > Ju and Ma both are natural samdharmi > > > Ju and Ma 4:10 in rashi/navamsa > > > Ju LoE and high point So Event can be in 3rd sector of it. > > > > > > > > > Mo-Ra > > > Ra represnts Su/Ve....considerin g more like Ve NK FK.... and cojoin > > Ju in navamsa so samdahrmi to Ju > > > > > > so Event can be in 3rd sector of it.......seems not wise choice still > > to me > > > > > > Mo-Ju > > > Ju Can give Event in 3rd Sector on it > > > > > > will come up with more thought as gets educated to this system > > > ------------ ------ > > > Regards, > > > Devisingh > > > > > > devisigh wrote: > > > Dear Ash ji, > > > > > > Namaskar > > > > > > Sincere thanks for your words attitude intension and time. > > > > > > I am trying my all time what i can collect to study this system. > > > I guess this can takes time may be 3year (less points till that time > > also indicate hardwork and busy for me) Will continue my attempt/doubts > > hope for comments from moderators for same. > > > I am enjoying achieves thanks to Krushna,sanjay, Donna,Peter, Magritta > > and all very nice considering old time and situation. > > > hope that will helps me to understand and utilize system and finally > > to absorb root or essence of system so other all system and vedic text > > can be clarified with same so better results can be obtained related to > > timing of events. > > > Everybody is trying/pushing here only to help others using there own > > approach It is really appreciated GOD WILL HELP THEM WHO HELPED OTHERS > > > > > > Please find below is thought process/approach: > > > I am taking acceptance that person is not mentally retired and birth > > details are correct no rectification required > > > > > > Quality of 7th house: > > > * checking Ju in Libra in rashi/navamsa. ...navamsa has that...it is > > RK,NRK and LoE..seems not good for marriage. > > > * checking Ve nakshatra in rashi...bharni. ..ok > > > * checking Su and Ve distance in rashi...less then 43...ok > > > * checking Ve is with Ra,St or aspect in rashi/navamsa. ....Ve is with > > St in navamsa....spoils Ve more > > > * checking LoA,LoB,LoC, LoD,LoE in rashi.....Ve, St..Mo,Ju > > > * checking planets with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ..Sa and Ju.....St is LoC > > and Ju is loE for 7th house and LoA for 5th house. > > > * checking Ra aspects on house in rashi/navamsa. ..9,12,2. .7,9,11.. > > 12th is HoE,2nd is HoA,9th is karak for HoA and HoC for child..7th is > > HB,11th is HC > > > * checking Ra aspects on planets in rashi and navamsa...Me, Su......Me > > 6th lord become more malefic and Su LoB for child case > > > * checking for planets with 6th/12th lord in rashi/navamsa. .... Ju is > > 6th lord and me is 12th lord.....me is with ve in navamsa spoils ve. > > > * checking for aspects on house in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... > > ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... > > > * checking for aspects on planets in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th > > lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... > > > * cheking malefic aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....Ju with 5 points > > aspects to HoE,Ve with 6 points aspects to HB > > > * cheking benific aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....St with 2 points also > > LoC aspects to HB,HA and Mo aspects to HB > > > Blessings,compatibi lity,DBCE, strong house,strong planets: > > > * as usual to be looked will look another time > > > Finding significator: > > > * checking for 2nd lord in rashi......Ve is 2nd lord...Ve antra will > > bring more pain > > > * looking at 2,7,11 lords...ve and st....ve is with 6 points and st is > > with 2 points ....left st less points and left ve 2nd lord > > > * looking at 2,7,11 occupents ...me and su...me is with 7 points and > > su is with 4 points ...left su less points and left me 6th lord > > > * looking at 4,12 occupents... ju and ke(ju/ju)... so ju....ju is with > > 5 points ....considering ju ...left as in Libra and aspect malefic to > > HOE > > > * consider Reperesnter for Ra/Ke...Su,Ve/ Ju,Ju.... ..left Ra as > > alresdy left su and ve,left ke as already left ju > > > * looking at 4,12 lords....Mo, ju....considerin g moon as already left > > ju....mo may act......... still requires more time for me to finalise > > > > > > ------------ ------ > > > Regards, > > > Devisingh > > > > > > Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca > > <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=Corner@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Devisingh ji, > > > > > > Very nice attempt. Please continue your chain of thought. > > > Try to find the antra that you think might give marriage. Just go > > upto antra. > > > So first compute the delay and there after start to think over the > > best possible period that u think can give the event. > > > However, do write your thinking process. That will help one figure > > out where you are going away or your confusion. > > > Well Done. > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro. ca > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan > > <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=astrologyan> > > dtimingevents] On Behalf Of devisigh > > > Thursday November 5, 2009 6:42 AM > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart > > > > > > Dear All; > > > > > > My first attempt using KAS rules/techniques only > > > > > > 7th house marriage: > > > selecting Mo main Dasha which is with FK Ve for 7th house > > > Su and Ju seems significator from ws points for 7th house > > > other planets aspects 7th house i left them > > > Su is with Me which is 6th load makes Su samdharmi to 6th lord i left > > that > > > Ju having highest points and also LoE > > > now considering Ju only as strong significator which in RK and NRK and > > natural samdharmi to Mo which is LoD. > > > Ju does not have sight on A/B/C and is LoE can gives results > > > > > > Thinking for samdharmi of Ju > > > in navamsa Ju is with Ra ...makes Ju and Ra samdharmi > > > Ra can be thought to facilitate results for 7th house matters > > .......still this takes time for me to finalize > > > > > > ------------ ------ > > > Regards, > > > Devisingh > > > > > > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji, > > > > > > You are correct. It was a typo. It was good that I gave the degree of > > all planets so this mistake could be checked right in the begining. > > > > > > Thanks Nikhlesh ji. > > > > > > The date should be May 24th. > > > > > > 24th May 1979 > > > 4:10 AM > > > 28N40 > > > 77E13 > > > > > > Sorry about that. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=%4\ > > 0> , " nikhlesh mathur " > > <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=nikhleshmathur@ > > <nikhleshmathur@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sub: 24th Feb 1979, 4.10 am, 28.N.40, 77.E.13 > > > > Dear Ash ji, > > > > > > > > You said that Su is 9Ta31 for the above native. But a person born on > > the month of Feb cannot have his Sun in Taurus sign. It should be in > > Aquarius at this time. > > > > > > > > If other things are okay then I think the birth date is 24th May. > > > > > > > > Please confirm. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:47:29 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add to > > > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > 6) When > > > > can the native face health problems? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash's Corner@ [kas@ > > <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=kas@> ...] > > > > Monday October 26, 2009 > > > > 12:18 AM > > > > To: > > > > 'astrologyandtiming events@grou ps.com > > <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=%27astrologyandtimingevent\ > > s%40> ' > > > > Practice Chart > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear > > > > Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This > > > > lady has been posting charts in various lists for many years now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is > > > > the chart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24th > > > > Feb 1979 > > > > > > > > 4:10 AM > > > > > > > > 28N40 > > > > > > > > 77E13 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From > > > > what I gather, she had an affair or liked some guy that she wanted > > to > > > > marry. I am not clear from her posts > > > > that if she married the same guy or not. > > > > Her parents were looking out for some proposals for her. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If this > > > > chart came blindly to you, can you predict the following. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) > > > > Marriage > > > > > > > > 2) > > > > Child birth > > > > > > > > 3) > > > > Marital Relations overall > > > > > > > > 4) > > > > She has been complaining that relations are bad after marriage and > > > > asked if she should go for divorce. > > > > > > > > 5) > > > > Why she had affair or what are the yogs for that in this chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet > > > > > > > > > > > > Degrees > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As > > > > > > > > > > > > 15 Ar 55 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Su > > > > > > > > > > > > 9 Ta 31 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mo > > > > > > > > > > > > 13 Ar 48 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ma > > > > > > > > > > > > 13 Ar 8 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Me > > > > > > > > > > > > 2 Ta 15 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ju > > > > > > > > > > > > 11 Cn 16 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ve > > > > > > > > > > > > 14 Ar 30 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sa > > > > > > > > > > > > 14 Le 35 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra > > > > > > > > > > > > 20 Le 59 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ke > > > > > > > > > > > > 20 Aq 59 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage > > <http://in.rd./tagline_yyi_1/*http:/in./> . > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage > > <http://in.rd./tagline_yyi_1/*http:/in./> . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See > > <http://in.rd./tagline_yyi_1/*http:/in./> your > > Homepage. > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 12, 2009 Dear Ash jiAnup ji had sent a text which Guru ji had explained SD rules there maybe in a class or worlshop(( 15th Aug 2008 2nd)).Anup ji sent this as a message in the group.I've saved that lessson as word file but don't know the number of message.Here is that rule:" Sloka 6: There is a reference in Saravali regarding two planets in Kendras (angle houses â€" 1, 4, 7, 10), becoming mutual significators. We have a similar law in this system also. Saravali Chapter 6 sloka - 1, 2 and 3: Swarkshatrikonntund astha yadi kendreshu sansthitaI Anyonyam karakste syu: kendreshvev harermtamII 1II Ravitanyo jookstha: kulirlagne bruhaspatihimanshuI Meshe kujo raviyut: pararsparm karaka ete II2II Tungsuhrutkhgruhnas he stitha gruha: karaka: samakhyata:I Meshurane ch raviriti visheshto vakti chanakya: II 3II MEANING: When two planets are in a Kendra and are exalted or own the house they are in, they become mutual karakas or significators. In the above sloka, Acharya Vishnugupt says that this happens only with respect to Kendras. One example, (as illustrated in Fig.37) for the Cancer lagna is given, with Saturn in Libra, the Moon and Jupiter in the lagna, Sun and Mars in Aries. In this case, all of them became mutual karakas. Similarly, some authors say that planets that are mutually angular though not necessarily from the ascendant are also mutual significators. For our purposes, when two planets are exalted or own the Kendra house they are in, making them mutual karakas, this is also a phenomenon that we use in this system. Best WishesHussein , "Ash's Corner" <kas wrote:>> Dear Hussein ji?> > What law is that????? Please explain or show me the mail number so I can read that and understand what context?> > Cheers !!!> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca> > On Behalf Of Hussein> Thursday November 12, 2009 2:49 PM> > Re: Practice Chart> > > Dear Ash ji > > I think another rule which is available for SDs is that :the planets which are in the exaltation sign or > > are in their own kendra are SD for each other.> > Best Wishes> > Hussein> , "Ash's Corner@" kas@ wrote:> >> > Dear Bella ji,> > > > Just one small correction from my side on my earlier mail.> > > > The order or SD will be> > > > 1) 4:10> > 2) Same Sign & Nak> > 3) Same Navamsa> > 4) Navamsa lord> > 5) Nakshatra lord.> > > > NSD if they get a chance they will give, that depends on fixed relationship as per natural chart. So there is no order for the same. Except that if they are in 1:7 then they cease to become NSD’s.> > > > The reason for the above order is that if you notice that the last 2 are only one way, means planet comes sd to navamsa lord or nak lord so its one way. Means planet can replace the nav lord or nak lord if they are unable to give the result but not vice versa.> > When planets are in same navamsa then they are 2 way means both can replace each other.> > > > Hence the distinction. > > > > Just try to understand the essence of the same.> > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > On Behalf Of BPShiv> > Thursday November 12, 2009 12:48 PM> > > > Re: Re: Practice Chart> > > > > >  > > Dear Devi Singh ji,> > My answers are in purple. Seniors please correct my errors as this is the very basic portion of KAS that we are strengthening.> > > > > > Please clarify CAPS...this is new to me?> > > > "2.All Planets cojoin in sign NO"> > By this i mean to say if two planets are in one sign in rashi chart ...for example ju and ma both are in Leo...both become samdharmi to each other....ma has low points so Ma can replace Ju > > NO. Not in Rasi BUT YES in navamsa. If Ju and Ma are in Leo in Rasi they cannot be SD but if they are in same navamsa then they are SD.> > In Rasi Ju and Ma have to be in the same sign AND also in the same nakshatra.> > > > "6.Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO"> > This is case where Ju is in Leo in rashi chart and Ma is in Leo in navamsa.....both are in Leo and become samdharmi> > No. But according to lesson 25 they could be SD if they both have more points. > > > > "8.Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO"> > This is case where Ju with 5 point in Tarus and placed in 4th house....so LoD for 7th house is Ve and Ju can give result due to its placement so samdharmi to Ve ....can replace Ve> > NO. Planet is not SD to sign Lo itself in Rasi.> > Here in your example if you are talking about 4:10 relationship than if Ju has 5 bindus in 4th place and if Ma is in 10th place with 3 bindus than Ju can be SD to Ma provided it has more bindus. > > > > "9.If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra NO"> > This is case Ju is with Ra in rashi/navamsa.......and Ra represents Su/St......so Ju samdharmi to Su/St.....I Think this is my mistake we should not consider Ra as it does not have rulership of any sign> > > > > > > > NO. Ju is not SD to Su.> > In this case if Ju is with Ra in rasi they are not SD. If they are in Leo that means Ra represents Su. Also we have to see nakshatra Lo that Ra is in. Say Ra is in nakshatra of Ve and from two of them whichever has more bindus Ra will represent like them. If Ve has 5 bindus and Su has 3 bindus than Ra will be more like Ve and less like Su also have to check the points in WS.> > Now if Ra is with Ju in Sa navamsa than Ra is SD to Ju and SD to Sa.> > To summarize this ex. Ra REPRESENTS Ve and is SD to Ju and Sa.> > > > "Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO"> > I think this is again not true as per your emails and lessons as well.......rather Mo natural samdharmi to Ma.............Mo can replace Ma.> > However i have not got root cause/main reason for this ......rather what i think is Mo can not be boss .....Please clarify or provide any means where should i look?> > > > > > > > Yes. If Ma is in navamsa of Mo than Ma is SD to Mo and Ma can fill in for Mo.> > Also, please refer to Ash ji's msg # 20953 link. Nice update and more clarifications.> > > > Thank you,> > -Bella.> > > > > > > > - > > Anup. M <dalh_1@ > > > > Thursday, November 12, 2009 8:48 AM> > Re: Re: Practice Chart> > > > > > > > > > Dear Devi singh ji,> > > > > > Just wait,i hope members over here will try to explain you > > regarding your confusions.> > > > > > Regards > > Anup> > > > > > --- On Thu, 12/11/09, devisigh devisingh.rajput@ wrote:> > > > devisigh devisingh.rajput@> > Re: Re: Practice Chart> > > > Thursday, 12 November, 2009, 7:28 PM> > > > Dear Anup ji,> > > > It is really wondering for me.....something i guess incorrect in drafting/representa tion by me...let me try one more time in better way.....> > > > Please clarify CAPS...this is new to me?> > > > "2.All Planets cojoin in sign NO"> > By this i mean to say if two planets are in one sign in rashi chart ...for example ju and ma both are in Leo...both become samdharmi to each other....ma has low points so Ma can replace Ju > > > > "6.Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO"> > This is case where Ju is in Leo in rashi chart and Ma is in Leo in navamsa..... both are in Leo and become samdharmi> > > > "8.Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO"> > This is case where Ju with 5 point in Tarus and placed in 4th house....so LoD for 7th house is Ve and Ju can give result due to its placement so samdharmi to Ve ....can replace Ve> > > > "9.If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra NO"> > This is case Ju is with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ......and Ra represents Su/St......so Ju samdharmi to Su/St.....I Think this is my mistake we should not consider Ra as it does not have rulership of any sign> > > > "Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO"> > I think this is again not true as per your emails and lessons as well.......rather Mo natural samdharmi to Ma.......... ...Mo can replace Ma.> > However i have not got root cause/main reason for this ......rather what i think is Mo can not be boss .....Please clarify or provide any means where should i look?> > > > ------------ ------ > > Regards, > > Devisingh> > > > > > Anup. M wrote: > > > > > > Dear Devi singh ji,> > > > > > My understanding is as per CAPS below.> > > > Regards> > Anup> > > > > > --- On Wed, 11/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote:> > > > devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com>> > Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart> > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> > Wednesday, 11 November, 2009, 6:30 PM> > > > Dear Anup ji,> > > > Thank you ....for corrections on emails.....this will keep me on track and avoiding out of track.> > > > If Planets in navamsa have 4:10 relation we should not consider them samdharmi that is input for me.> > > > Below is my understanding related to samdharmi what is gathered upto 2000 emails of achieves.... .putting here so may be help full to other members as well please have a look and comment on them where requires...i have arranged them on priority basis please provides your valuable comment for them where required> > 1. Planets making 4:10 in rashi (offcourse boss and subordinate analogy) YES > > 2. All Planets cojoin in sign NO > > 3. Planet is samdharmi to Lord of nakshtra sign YES > > 4. All Planets in same nakshatra YES > > 5. All Planets cojoin in navamsa YES > > 6. Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO> > 7. Planet is samdharmi to Lord navamsa sign YES > > 8. Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO> > 9. If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra NO > > 10. > > 11. Ra is samdharmi to sign lord and navamsa lord and planet cojoin in navamsa YES> > > > Yes it is my mistake mo,ju,ma are not natural samdharmi as per KAS......Please forgive me i might done it knowingly but not intentionally> > In kalpurush chart ....looking 4:10> > St and Ve are samdharmi to each other....can replace each other> > Su samdharmi to Ma...Su can replace Ma YES> > Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO> > ------------ ------ > > Regards, > > Devisingh> > > > Anup. M wrote: > > > > > > Dear Devi singh ji, > > > > > > I think samdharmi concept is not clear somewhere in your mail> > > > Pleae note that ..> > MOON AND JU ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI > > JU AND MARS ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI.> > > > Also we do not consider 4:10 relation in navamsa.> > > > > > Regards> > Anup > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 10/11/09, devisigh <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=devisingh.rajput@ <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote:> > > > devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com>> > Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart> > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> > Tuesday, 10 November, 2009, 6:56 PM> > > > Dear All;> > > > Some more thoughts to fix antra> > > > St full delay but st have moved 15 degree so considering 27.5-1.3=26. 3 year initial value> > Ju aspects Hb in navamsa but is is in libra with rahu in navamsa and in nakshtra of St so it can not check to saturn so full delay no help from Ju to reduce delay as staus of Ju is not good> > > > no zero in SAV so no addition in delay> > Blessing in navamsa but can not help to reduce delay> > St is with Ra in rashi so more affilicted add delay> > Mo aspected by Ra in rashi and St cojoin in navamsa ,As lumanaries are aspected so that will add delay > > > > Main dasha lord Mo is OK as karka to give 7th house events> > > > Mo-Mo> > Mo LoD and Natural Samdharmi to Ju can give event> > > > But I think this would not be case as some what delay have to be added> > > > Mo-Ma> > Ju and Ma both in cancer one in rasi and another in navamsa makes them samdharmi> > Ju and Ma both are natural samdharmi> > Ju and Ma 4:10 in rashi/navamsa> > Ju LoE and high point So Event can be in 3rd sector of it.> > > > > > Mo-Ra> > Ra represnts Su/Ve....considerin g more like Ve NK FK.... and cojoin Ju in navamsa so samdahrmi to Ju > > > > so Event can be in 3rd sector of it.......seems not wise choice still to me> > > > Mo-Ju> > Ju Can give Event in 3rd Sector on it> > > > will come up with more thought as gets educated to this system> > ------------ ------ > > Regards, > > Devisingh> > > > devisigh wrote: > > Dear Ash ji,> > > > Namaskar> > > > Sincere thanks for your words attitude intension and time. > > > > I am trying my all time what i can collect to study this system. > > I guess this can takes time may be 3year (less points till that time also indicate hardwork and busy for me) Will continue my attempt/doubts hope for comments from moderators for same.> > I am enjoying achieves thanks to Krushna,sanjay, Donna,Peter, Magritta and all very nice considering old time and situation.> > hope that will helps me to understand and utilize system and finally to absorb root or essence of system so other all system and vedic text can be clarified with same so better results can be obtained related to timing of events.> > Everybody is trying/pushing here only to help others using there own approach It is really appreciated GOD WILL HELP THEM WHO HELPED OTHERS> > > > Please find below is thought process/approach:> > I am taking acceptance that person is not mentally retired and birth details are correct no rectification required> > > > Quality of 7th house:> > * checking Ju in Libra in rashi/navamsa. ...navamsa has that...it is RK,NRK and LoE..seems not good for marriage. > > * checking Ve nakshatra in rashi...bharni. ..ok > > * checking Su and Ve distance in rashi...less then 43...ok > > * checking Ve is with Ra,St or aspect in rashi/navamsa. ....Ve is with St in navamsa....spoils Ve more > > * checking LoA,LoB,LoC, LoD,LoE in rashi.....Ve, St..Mo,Ju > > * checking planets with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ..Sa and Ju.....St is LoC and Ju is loE for 7th house and LoA for 5th house. > > * checking Ra aspects on house in rashi/navamsa. ..9,12,2. .7,9,11.. 12th is HoE,2nd is HoA,9th is karak for HoA and HoC for child..7th is HB,11th is HC > > * checking Ra aspects on planets in rashi and navamsa...Me, Su......Me 6th lord become more malefic and Su LoB for child case > > * checking for planets with 6th/12th lord in rashi/navamsa. .... Ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord.....me is with ve in navamsa spoils ve. > > * checking for aspects on house in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... > > * checking for aspects on planets in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... > > * cheking malefic aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....Ju with 5 points aspects to HoE,Ve with 6 points aspects to HB > > * cheking benific aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....St with 2 points also LoC aspects to HB,HA and Mo aspects to HB> > Blessings,compatibi lity,DBCE, strong house,strong planets:> > * as usual to be looked will look another time> > Finding significator:> > * checking for 2nd lord in rashi......Ve is 2nd lord...Ve antra will bring more pain > > * looking at 2,7,11 lords...ve and st....ve is with 6 points and st is with 2 points ....left st less points and left ve 2nd lord > > * looking at 2,7,11 occupents ...me and su...me is with 7 points and su is with 4 points ...left su less points and left me 6th lord > > * looking at 4,12 occupents... ju and ke(ju/ju)... so ju....ju is with 5 points ....considering ju ...left as in Libra and aspect malefic to HOE > > * consider Reperesnter for Ra/Ke...Su,Ve/ Ju,Ju.... ..left Ra as alresdy left su and ve,left ke as already left ju > > * looking at 4,12 lords....Mo, ju....considerin g moon as already left ju....mo may act......... still requires more time for me to finalise> > > > ------------ ------ > > Regards, > > Devisingh> > > > Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=Corner@ wrote: > > > > Dear Devisingh ji,> > > > Very nice attempt. Please continue your chain of thought. > > Try to find the antra that you think might give marriage. Just go upto antra. > > So first compute the delay and there after start to think over the best possible period that u think can give the event. > > However, do write your thinking process. That will help one figure out where you are going away or your confusion. > > Well Done. > > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro. ca > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=astrologyan> dtimingevents] On Behalf Of devisigh> > Thursday November 5, 2009 6:42 AM> > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> > Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart> > > > Dear All;> > > > My first attempt using KAS rules/techniques only> > > > 7th house marriage:> > selecting Mo main Dasha which is with FK Ve for 7th house> > Su and Ju seems significator from ws points for 7th house> > other planets aspects 7th house i left them> > Su is with Me which is 6th load makes Su samdharmi to 6th lord i left that> > Ju having highest points and also LoE> > now considering Ju only as strong significator which in RK and NRK and natural samdharmi to Mo which is LoD.> > Ju does not have sight on A/B/C and is LoE can gives results> > > > Thinking for samdharmi of Ju> > in navamsa Ju is with Ra ...makes Ju and Ra samdharmi > > Ra can be thought to facilitate results for 7th house matters .......still this takes time for me to finalize> > > > ------------ ------ > > Regards, > > Devisingh> > > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji,> > > > You are correct. It was a typo. It was good that I gave the degree of all planets so this mistake could be checked right in the begining.> > > > Thanks Nikhlesh ji.> > > > The date should be May 24th.> > > > 24th May 1979> > 4:10 AM> > 28N40> > 77E13> > > > Sorry about that.> > > > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca> > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=%40> , "nikhlesh mathur" <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=nikhleshmathur@ <nikhleshmathur@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > > > > > > > Sub: 24th Feb 1979, 4.10 am, 28.N.40, 77.E.13> > > Dear Ash ji,> > > > > > You said that Su is 9Ta31 for the above native. But a person born on the month of Feb cannot have his Sun in Taurus sign. It should be in Aquarius at this time.> > > > > > If other things are okay then I think the birth date is 24th May.> > > > > > Please confirm.> > > > > > Regards,> > > Nikhlesh Mathur> > > > > > > > > On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:47:29 +0530 wrote> > > >> > > > > > Add to> > > this.> > > > > > > > > 6) When> > > can the native face health problems?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash's Corner@ [kas@ <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=kas@> ...] > > > Monday October 26, 2009> > > 12:18 AM> > > To:> > > 'astrologyandtiming events@grou ps.com <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=%27%40> '> > > Practice Chart> > > > > > > > > Dear> > > Group,> > > > > > > > > > > > This> > > lady has been posting charts in various lists for many years now. > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is> > > the chart > > > > > > > > > > > > 24th> > > Feb 1979> > > > > > 4:10 AM> > > > > > 28N40> > > > > > 77E13> > > > > > > > > > > > From> > > what I gather, she had an affair or liked some guy that she wanted to> > > marry. I am not clear from her posts> > > that if she married the same guy or not.> > > Her parents were looking out for some proposals for her.> > > > > > > > > > > > If this> > > chart came blindly to you, can you predict the following.> > > > > > > > > > > > 1)> > > Marriage> > > > > > 2)> > > Child birth> > > > > > 3)> > > Marital Relations overall> > > > > > 4)> > > She has been complaining that relations are bad after marriage and> > > asked if she should go for divorce.> > > > > > 5)> > > Why she had affair or what are the yogs for that in this chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet> > > > > > > > > Degrees> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As> > > > > > > > > 15 Ar 55> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Su> > > > > > > > > 9 Ta 31> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mo> > > > > > > > > 13 Ar 48> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ma> > > > > > > > > 13 Ar 8> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Me> > > > > > > > > 2 Ta 15> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ju> > > > > > > > > 11 Cn 16> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ve> > > > > > > > > 14 Ar 30> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sa> > > > > > > > > 14 Le 35> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra> > > > > > > > > 20 Le 59> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ke> > > > > > > > > 20 Aq 59> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca> > >> > > > > > _____ > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage <http://in.rd./tagline_yyi_1/*http:/in./> . > > > > > > _____ > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage <http://in.rd./tagline_yyi_1/*http:/in./> . > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See <http://in.rd./tagline_yyi_1/*http:/in./> your Homepage.> >> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 12, 2009 Dear Hussein ji and NS ji, Please read the sentence above that as well. “ (If, in the above case, planet 'A' had less points then 'B', then planet 'A' would behave in a reverse way and might give adverse results if it didn't receive more than 12 points in its final tally, as indicated in the worksheet.)†The essence of that write up is that how 4:10 is being advocated by Saravali and others. That said, in our system, we go one step further to classify the same i.e. 1) Planet in 10th place if its less than 4 bindus and Planet in 4th house from it is with more than 4 bindus 2) Planet in 10th place if its with more than 4 bindus and planet in 4th place from it is with less than 4 bindus 3) Planet in 10th place is with 4 bindus and planet in 4th place from it is with more than 4 bindus So, in all the above case there is a very big difference on how the result will be. In the 1st case both planets will give good result as they will become very powerful SD as there is power transfer and in the WS the power will go up for all 12 house for the planet in 10th house that controls the planet in 4th house so in both antras result will be good. In second case, there is opposition. Planet in 10th place is with more than 4 bindus so its in House D for the 4th house from it so it will give the event or become eager but the planet in the 4th place will oppose the karaktwa of the planet in 10th place so during the antras very different results will be there. In the 3rd case, if the planet in 10th place is LoD or LoE then it will control the planet and will act like case 1 but for the house that it is not LoD or LoE it will not become SD and there will be no power transfer as there will not be any control of planet in 10th place on the planet in 4th place from it. Please understand this. Now since we are talking about 4:10 then our focus is on case 1 given above as we are studying positive things and trying to give the person who comes to u for getting a reading some hope. But it does not mean that other 2 scenarios are not there. Please do not get confused about this and get concept firm in your mind. So in case 1 only they will become mutual karaks means they can replace each other and in KAS terminology they become Samdharmi and that too 2 way means that both can replace each other. But only for case 1 and for case 3 in case the lord in 10th place is LoD or LoE for those house it will become SD with power transfer. But for case 2, it will be reverse effect. Planet in 4th place will oppose planet in 10th place and one will get the result accordingly. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Hussein Thursday November 12, 2009 3:44 PM To: Subject: Re: Practice Chart Dear Ash ji Anup ji had sent a text which Guru ji had explained SD rules there maybe in a class or worlshop(( 15th Aug 2008 2nd)).Anup ji sent this as a message in the group.I've saved that lessson as word file but don't know the number of message. Here is that rule: " Sloka 6: There is a reference in Saravali regarding two planets in Kendras (angle houses †" 1, 4, 7, 10), becoming mutual significators. We have a similar law in this system also. Saravali Chapter 6 sloka - 1, 2 and 3: Swarkshatrikonntund astha yadi kendreshu sansthitaI Anyonyam karakste syu: kendreshvev harermtamII 1II Ravitanyo jookstha: kulirlagne bruhaspatihimanshuI Meshe kujo raviyut: pararsparm karaka ete II2II Tungsuhrutkhgruhnas he stitha gruha: karaka: samakhyata:I Meshurane ch raviriti visheshto vakti chanakya: II 3II MEANING: When two planets are in a Kendra and are exalted or own the house they are in, they become mutual karakas or significators. In the above sloka, Acharya Vishnugupt says that this happens only with respect to Kendras. One example, (as illustrated in Fig.37) for the Cancer lagna is given, with Saturn in Libra, the Moon and Jupiter in the lagna, Sun and Mars in Aries. In this case, all of them became mutual karakas. Similarly, some authors say that planets that are mutually angular though not necessarily from the ascendant are also mutual significators. For our purposes, when two planets are exalted or own the Kendra house they are in, making them mutual karakas, this is also a phenomenon that we use in this system. Best Wishes Hussein --- In , " Ash's Corner " <kas wrote: > > Dear Hussein ji? > > What law is that????? Please explain or show me the mail number so I can read that and understand what context? > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > On Behalf Of Hussein > Thursday November 12, 2009 2:49 PM > > Re: Practice Chart > > > Dear Ash ji > > I think another rule which is available for SDs is that :the planets which are in the exaltation sign or > > are in their own kendra are SD for each other. > > Best Wishes > > Hussein > , " Ash's Corner@ " kas@ wrote: > > > > Dear Bella ji, > > > > Just one small correction from my side on my earlier mail. > > > > The order or SD will be > > > > 1) 4:10 > > 2) Same Sign & Nak > > 3) Same Navamsa > > 4) Navamsa lord > > 5) Nakshatra lord. > > > > NSD if they get a chance they will give, that depends on fixed relationship as per natural chart. So there is no order for the same. Except that if they are in 1:7 then they cease to become NSD’s. > > > > The reason for the above order is that if you notice that the last 2 are only one way, means planet comes sd to navamsa lord or nak lord so its one way. Means planet can replace the nav lord or nak lord if they are unable to give the result but not vice versa. > > When planets are in same navamsa then they are 2 way means both can replace each other. > > > > Hence the distinction. > > > > Just try to understand the essence of the same. > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > On Behalf Of BPShiv > > Thursday November 12, 2009 12:48 PM > > > > Re: Re: Practice Chart > > > > > >  > > Dear Devi Singh ji, > > My answers are in purple. Seniors please correct my errors as this is the very basic portion of KAS that we are strengthening. > > > > > > Please clarify CAPS...this is new to me? > > > > " 2.All Planets cojoin in sign NO " > > By this i mean to say if two planets are in one sign in rashi chart ....for example ju and ma both are in Leo...both become samdharmi to each other....ma has low points so Ma can replace Ju > > NO. Not in Rasi BUT YES in navamsa. If Ju and Ma are in Leo in Rasi they cannot be SD but if they are in same navamsa then they are SD. > > In Rasi Ju and Ma have to be in the same sign AND also in the same nakshatra. > > > > " 6.Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO " > > This is case where Ju is in Leo in rashi chart and Ma is in Leo in navamsa.....both are in Leo and become samdharmi > > No. But according to lesson 25 they could be SD if they both have more points. > > > > " 8.Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO " > > This is case where Ju with 5 point in Tarus and placed in 4th house....so LoD for 7th house is Ve and Ju can give result due to its placement so samdharmi to Ve ....can replace Ve > > NO. Planet is not SD to sign Lo itself in Rasi. > > Here in your example if you are talking about 4:10 relationship than if Ju has 5 bindus in 4th place and if Ma is in 10th place with 3 bindus than Ju can be SD to Ma provided it has more bindus. > > > > " 9.If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra NO " > > This is case Ju is with Ra in rashi/navamsa.......and Ra represents Su/St......so Ju samdharmi to Su/St.....I Think this is my mistake we should not consider Ra as it does not have rulership of any sign > > > > > > > > NO. Ju is not SD to Su. > > In this case if Ju is with Ra in rasi they are not SD. If they are in Leo that means Ra represents Su. Also we have to see nakshatra Lo that Ra is in. Say Ra is in nakshatra of Ve and from two of them whichever has more bindus Ra will represent like them. If Ve has 5 bindus and Su has 3 bindus than Ra will be more like Ve and less like Su also have to check the points in WS. > > Now if Ra is with Ju in Sa navamsa than Ra is SD to Ju and SD to Sa. > > To summarize this ex. Ra REPRESENTS Ve and is SD to Ju and Sa. > > > > " Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO " > > I think this is again not true as per your emails and lessons as well.......rather Mo natural samdharmi to Ma.............Mo can replace Ma. > > However i have not got root cause/main reason for this ......rather what i think is Mo can not be boss .....Please clarify or provide any means where should i look? > > > > > > > > Yes. If Ma is in navamsa of Mo than Ma is SD to Mo and Ma can fill in for Mo. > > Also, please refer to Ash ji's msg # 20953 link. Nice update and more clarifications. > > > > Thank you, > > -Bella. > > > > > > > > - > > Anup. M <dalh_1@ > > > > Thursday, November 12, 2009 8:48 AM > > Re: Re: Practice Chart > > > > > > > > > > Dear Devi singh ji, > > > > > > Just wait,i hope members over here will try to explain you > > regarding your confusions. > > > > > > Regards > > Anup > > > > > > --- On Thu, 12/11/09, devisigh devisingh.rajput@ wrote: > > > > devisigh devisingh.rajput@ > > Re: Re: Practice Chart > > > > Thursday, 12 November, 2009, 7:28 PM > > > > Dear Anup ji, > > > > It is really wondering for me.....something i guess incorrect in drafting/representa tion by me...let me try one more time in better way..... > > > > Please clarify CAPS...this is new to me? > > > > " 2.All Planets cojoin in sign NO " > > By this i mean to say if two planets are in one sign in rashi chart ....for example ju and ma both are in Leo...both become samdharmi to each other....ma has low points so Ma can replace Ju > > > > " 6.Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO " > > This is case where Ju is in Leo in rashi chart and Ma is in Leo in navamsa..... both are in Leo and become samdharmi > > > > " 8.Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO " > > This is case where Ju with 5 point in Tarus and placed in 4th house....so LoD for 7th house is Ve and Ju can give result due to its placement so samdharmi to Ve ....can replace Ve > > > > " 9.If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra NO " > > This is case Ju is with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ......and Ra represents Su/St......so Ju samdharmi to Su/St.....I Think this is my mistake we should not consider Ra as it does not have rulership of any sign > > > > " Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO " > > I think this is again not true as per your emails and lessons as well.......rather Mo natural samdharmi to Ma.......... ...Mo can replace Ma. > > However i have not got root cause/main reason for this ......rather what i think is Mo can not be boss .....Please clarify or provide any means where should i look? > > > > ------------ ------ > > Regards, > > Devisingh > > > > > > Anup. M wrote: > > > > > > Dear Devi singh ji, > > > > > > My understanding is as per CAPS below. > > > > Regards > > Anup > > > > > > --- On Wed, 11/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> > > Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > Wednesday, 11 November, 2009, 6:30 PM > > > > Dear Anup ji, > > > > Thank you ....for corrections on emails.....this will keep me on track and avoiding out of track. > > > > If Planets in navamsa have 4:10 relation we should not consider them samdharmi that is input for me. > > > > Below is my understanding related to samdharmi what is gathered upto 2000 emails of achieves.... .putting here so may be help full to other members as well please have a look and comment on them where requires...i have arranged them on priority basis please provides your valuable comment for them where required > > 1. Planets making 4:10 in rashi (offcourse boss and subordinate analogy) YES > > 2. All Planets cojoin in sign NO > > 3. Planet is samdharmi to Lord of nakshtra sign YES > > 4. All Planets in same nakshatra YES > > 5. All Planets cojoin in navamsa YES > > 6. Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO > > 7. Planet is samdharmi to Lord navamsa sign YES > > 8. Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO > > 9. If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra NO > > 10. > > 11. Ra is samdharmi to sign lord and navamsa lord and planet cojoin in navamsa YES > > > > Yes it is my mistake mo,ju,ma are not natural samdharmi as per KAS......Please forgive me i might done it knowingly but not intentionally > > In kalpurush chart ....looking 4:10 > > St and Ve are samdharmi to each other....can replace each other > > Su samdharmi to Ma...Su can replace Ma YES > > Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO > > ------------ ------ > > Regards, > > Devisingh > > > > Anup. M wrote: > > > > > > Dear Devi singh ji, > > > > > > I think samdharmi concept is not clear somewhere in your mail > > > > Pleae note that .. > > MOON AND JU ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI > > JU AND MARS ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI. > > > > Also we do not consider 4:10 relation in navamsa. > > > > > > Regards > > Anup > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 10/11/09, devisigh <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=devisingh.rajput@ <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> > > Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > Tuesday, 10 November, 2009, 6:56 PM > > > > Dear All; > > > > Some more thoughts to fix antra > > > > St full delay but st have moved 15 degree so considering 27.5-1.3=26. 3 year initial value > > Ju aspects Hb in navamsa but is is in libra with rahu in navamsa and in nakshtra of St so it can not check to saturn so full delay no help from Ju to reduce delay as staus of Ju is not good > > > > no zero in SAV so no addition in delay > > Blessing in navamsa but can not help to reduce delay > > St is with Ra in rashi so more affilicted add delay > > Mo aspected by Ra in rashi and St cojoin in navamsa ,As lumanaries are aspected so that will add delay > > > > Main dasha lord Mo is OK as karka to give 7th house events > > > > Mo-Mo > > Mo LoD and Natural Samdharmi to Ju can give event > > > > But I think this would not be case as some what delay have to be added > > > > Mo-Ma > > Ju and Ma both in cancer one in rasi and another in navamsa makes them samdharmi > > Ju and Ma both are natural samdharmi > > Ju and Ma 4:10 in rashi/navamsa > > Ju LoE and high point So Event can be in 3rd sector of it. > > > > > > Mo-Ra > > Ra represnts Su/Ve....considerin g more like Ve NK FK.... and cojoin Ju in navamsa so samdahrmi to Ju > > > > so Event can be in 3rd sector of it.......seems not wise choice still to me > > > > Mo-Ju > > Ju Can give Event in 3rd Sector on it > > > > will come up with more thought as gets educated to this system > > ------------ ------ > > Regards, > > Devisingh > > > > devisigh wrote: > > Dear Ash ji, > > > > Namaskar > > > > Sincere thanks for your words attitude intension and time. > > > > I am trying my all time what i can collect to study this system. > > I guess this can takes time may be 3year (less points till that time also indicate hardwork and busy for me) Will continue my attempt/doubts hope for comments from moderators for same. > > I am enjoying achieves thanks to Krushna,sanjay, Donna,Peter, Magritta and all very nice considering old time and situation. > > hope that will helps me to understand and utilize system and finally to absorb root or essence of system so other all system and vedic text can be clarified with same so better results can be obtained related to timing of events. > > Everybody is trying/pushing here only to help others using there own approach It is really appreciated GOD WILL HELP THEM WHO HELPED OTHERS > > > > Please find below is thought process/approach: > > I am taking acceptance that person is not mentally retired and birth details are correct no rectification required > > > > Quality of 7th house: > > * checking Ju in Libra in rashi/navamsa. ...navamsa has that...it is RK,NRK and LoE..seems not good for marriage. > > * checking Ve nakshatra in rashi...bharni. ..ok > > * checking Su and Ve distance in rashi...less then 43...ok > > * checking Ve is with Ra,St or aspect in rashi/navamsa. ....Ve is with St in navamsa....spoils Ve more > > * checking LoA,LoB,LoC, LoD,LoE in rashi.....Ve, St..Mo,Ju > > * checking planets with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ..Sa and Ju.....St is LoC and Ju is loE for 7th house and LoA for 5th house. > > * checking Ra aspects on house in rashi/navamsa. ..9,12,2. .7,9,11.. 12th is HoE,2nd is HoA,9th is karak for HoA and HoC for child..7th is HB,11th is HC > > * checking Ra aspects on planets in rashi and navamsa...Me, Su......Me 6th lord become more malefic and Su LoB for child case > > * checking for planets with 6th/12th lord in rashi/navamsa. .... Ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord.....me is with ve in navamsa spoils ve. > > * checking for aspects on house in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... > > * checking for aspects on planets in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... > > * cheking malefic aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....Ju with 5 points aspects to HoE,Ve with 6 points aspects to HB > > * cheking benific aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....St with 2 points also LoC aspects to HB,HA and Mo aspects to HB > > Blessings,compatibi lity,DBCE, strong house,strong planets: > > * as usual to be looked will look another time > > Finding significator: > > * checking for 2nd lord in rashi......Ve is 2nd lord...Ve antra will bring more pain > > * looking at 2,7,11 lords...ve and st....ve is with 6 points and st is with 2 points ....left st less points and left ve 2nd lord > > * looking at 2,7,11 occupents ...me and su...me is with 7 points and su is with 4 points ...left su less points and left me 6th lord > > * looking at 4,12 occupents... ju and ke(ju/ju)... so ju....ju is with 5 points ....considering ju ...left as in Libra and aspect malefic to HOE > > * consider Reperesnter for Ra/Ke...Su,Ve/ Ju,Ju.... ..left Ra as alresdy left su and ve,left ke as already left ju > > * looking at 4,12 lords....Mo, ju....considerin g moon as already left ju....mo may act......... still requires more time for me to finalise > > > > ------------ ------ > > Regards, > > Devisingh > > > > Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=Corner@ wrote: > > > > Dear Devisingh ji, > > > > Very nice attempt. Please continue your chain of thought. > > Try to find the antra that you think might give marriage. Just go upto antra. > > So first compute the delay and there after start to think over the best possible period that u think can give the event. > > However, do write your thinking process. That will help one figure out where you are going away or your confusion. > > Well Done. > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro. ca > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=astrologyan> dtimingevents@ . com] On Behalf Of devisigh > > Thursday November 5, 2009 6:42 AM > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart > > > > Dear All; > > > > My first attempt using KAS rules/techniques only > > > > 7th house marriage: > > selecting Mo main Dasha which is with FK Ve for 7th house > > Su and Ju seems significator from ws points for 7th house > > other planets aspects 7th house i left them > > Su is with Me which is 6th load makes Su samdharmi to 6th lord i left that > > Ju having highest points and also LoE > > now considering Ju only as strong significator which in RK and NRK and natural samdharmi to Mo which is LoD. > > Ju does not have sight on A/B/C and is LoE can gives results > > > > Thinking for samdharmi of Ju > > in navamsa Ju is with Ra ...makes Ju and Ra samdharmi > > Ra can be thought to facilitate results for 7th house matters ........still this takes time for me to finalize > > > > ------------ ------ > > Regards, > > Devisingh > > > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji, > > > > You are correct. It was a typo. It was good that I gave the degree of all planets so this mistake could be checked right in the begining. > > > > Thanks Nikhlesh ji. > > > > The date should be May 24th. > > > > 24th May 1979 > > 4:10 AM > > 28N40 > > 77E13 > > > > Sorry about that. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=%40> , " nikhlesh mathur " <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=nikhleshmathur@ <nikhleshmathur@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Sub: 24th Feb 1979, 4.10 am, 28.N.40, 77.E.13 > > > Dear Ash ji, > > > > > > You said that Su is 9Ta31 for the above native. But a person born on the month of Feb cannot have his Sun in Taurus sign. It should be in Aquarius at this time. > > > > > > If other things are okay then I think the birth date is 24th May. > > > > > > Please confirm. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:47:29 +0530 wrote > > > > > > > > > > Add to > > > this. > > > > > > > > > 6) When > > > can the native face health problems? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash's Corner@ [kas@ <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=kas@> ....] > > > Monday October 26, 2009 > > > 12:18 AM > > > To: > > > 'astrologyandtiming events@grou ps.com <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=%27%40> ' > > > Practice Chart > > > > > > > > > Dear > > > Group, > > > > > > > > > > > > This > > > lady has been posting charts in various lists for many years now. > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is > > > the chart > > > > > > > > > > > > 24th > > > Feb 1979 > > > > > > 4:10 AM > > > > > > 28N40 > > > > > > 77E13 > > > > > > > > > > > > From > > > what I gather, she had an affair or liked some guy that she wanted to > > > marry. I am not clear from her posts > > > that if she married the same guy or not. > > > Her parents were looking out for some proposals for her. > > > > > > > > > > > > If this > > > chart came blindly to you, can you predict the following. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) > > > Marriage > > > > > > 2) > > > Child birth > > > > > > 3) > > > Marital Relations overall > > > > > > 4) > > > She has been complaining that relations are bad after marriage and > > > asked if she should go for divorce. > > > > > > 5) > > > Why she had affair or what are the yogs for that in this chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet > > > > > > > > > Degrees > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As > > > > > > > > > 15 Ar 55 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Su > > > > > > > > > 9 Ta 31 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mo > > > > > > > > > 13 Ar 48 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ma > > > > > > > > > 13 Ar 8 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Me > > > > > > > > > 2 Ta 15 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ju > > > > > > > > > 11 Cn 16 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ve > > > > > > > > > 14 Ar 30 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sa > > > > > > > > > 14 Le 35 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra > > > > > > > > > 20 Le 59 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ke > > > > > > > > > 20 Aq 59 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage <http://in.rd./tagline_yyi_1/*http:/in./> . > > > > > > _____ > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage <http://in.rd./tagline_yyi_1/*http:/in./> . > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See <http://in.rd./tagline_yyi_1/*http:/in./> your Homepage. > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 12, 2009 Dear Ash jiI told different thing.Please see it again:: When two planets are in a Kendra and are exalted or own the house they are in, they become mutual karakas or significators. In the above sloka, Acharya Vishnugupt says that this happens only with respect to Kendras. One example, (as illustrated in Fig.37) for the Cancer lagna is given, with Saturn in Libra, the Moon and Jupiter in the lagna, Sun and Mars in Aries. In this case, all of them became mutual karakas. Similarly, some authors say that planets that are mutually angular though not necessarily from the ascendant are also mutual significators. For our purposes, when two planets are exalted or own the Kendra house they are in, making them mutual karakas, this is also a phenomenon that we use in this system.Best WishesHussein , "Ash's Corner" <kas wrote:>> Dear Hussein ji and NS ji,> > Please read the sentence above that as well.> > “ > (If, in the above case, planet 'A' had less points then 'B', then planet 'A' would behave in a reverse way and might give adverse results if it didn't receive more than 12 points in its final tally, as indicated in the worksheet.)â€> > The essence of that write up is that how 4:10 is being advocated by Saravali and others. That said, in our system, we go one step further to classify the same i.e.> > 1) Planet in 10th place if its less than 4 bindus and Planet in 4th house from it is with more than 4 bindus> 2) Planet in 10th place if its with more than 4 bindus and planet in 4th place from it is with less than 4 bindus> 3) Planet in 10th place is with 4 bindus and planet in 4th place from it is with more than 4 bindus> > So, in all the above case there is a very big difference on how the result will be. In the 1st case both planets will give good result as they will become very powerful SD as there is power transfer and in the WS the power will go up for all 12 house for the planet in 10th house that controls the planet in 4th house so in both antras result will be good.> > In second case, there is opposition. Planet in 10th place is with more than 4 bindus so its in House D for the 4th house from it so it will give the event or become eager but the planet in the 4th place will oppose the karaktwa of the planet in 10th place so during the antras very different results will be there.> > In the 3rd case, if the planet in 10th place is LoD or LoE then it will control the planet and will act like case 1 but for the house that it is not LoD or LoE it will not become SD and there will be no power transfer as there will not be any control of planet in 10th place on the planet in 4th place from it.> > Please understand this. > > Now since we are talking about 4:10 then our focus is on case 1 given above as we are studying positive things and trying to give the person who comes to u for getting a reading some hope. But it does not mean that other 2 scenarios are not there.> > Please do not get confused about this and get concept firm in your mind. So in case 1 only they will become mutual karaks means they can replace each other and in KAS terminology they become Samdharmi and that too 2 way means that both can replace each other. But only for case 1 and for case 3 in case the lord in 10th place is LoD or LoE for those house it will become SD with power transfer. But for case 2, it will be reverse effect. Planet in 4th place will oppose planet in 10th place and one will get the result accordingly. > Cheers !!!> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca> > On Behalf Of Hussein> Thursday November 12, 2009 3:44 PM> > Re: Practice Chart> > > Dear Ash ji> > Anup ji had sent a text which Guru ji had explained SD rules there maybe in a class or worlshop(( 15th Aug 2008 2nd)).Anup ji sent this as a message in the group.I've saved that lessson as word file but don't know the number of message.> > Here is that rule:> > " > Sloka 6: > There is a reference in Saravali regarding two planets in Kendras (angle houses â€" 1, 4, 7, 10), becoming mutual significators. We have a similar law in this system also. > > Saravali Chapter 6 sloka - 1, 2 and 3: > > Swarkshatrikonntund astha yadi kendreshu sansthitaI > Anyonyam karakste syu: kendreshvev harermtamII 1II > > Ravitanyo jookstha: kulirlagne bruhaspatihimanshuI > Meshe kujo raviyut: pararsparm karaka ete II2II > > Tungsuhrutkhgruhnas he stitha gruha: karaka: samakhyata:I > Meshurane ch raviriti visheshto vakti chanakya: II 3II > > > MEANING: When two planets are in a Kendra and are exalted or own the house they are in, they become mutual karakas or significators. In the above sloka, Acharya Vishnugupt says that this happens only with respect to Kendras. One example, (as illustrated in Fig.37) for the Cancer lagna is given, with Saturn in Libra, the Moon and Jupiter in the lagna, Sun and Mars in Aries. In this case, all of them became mutual karakas. Similarly, some authors say that planets that are mutually angular though not necessarily from the ascendant are also mutual significators. For our purposes, when two planets are exalted or own the Kendra house they are in, making them mutual karakas, this is also a phenomenon that we use in this system. > > Best Wishes> > Hussein> , "Ash's Corner@" kas@ wrote:> >> > Dear Hussein ji?> > > > What law is that????? Please explain or show me the mail number so I can read that and understand what context?> > > > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > On Behalf Of Hussein> > Thursday November 12, 2009 2:49 PM> > > > Re: Practice Chart> > > > > > Dear Ash ji > > > > I think another rule which is available for SDs is that :the planets which are in the exaltation sign or > > > > are in their own kendra are SD for each other.> > > > Best Wishes> > > > Hussein> > , "Ash's Corner@" kas@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Bella ji,> > > > > > Just one small correction from my side on my earlier mail.> > > > > > The order or SD will be> > > > > > 1) 4:10> > > 2) Same Sign & Nak> > > 3) Same Navamsa> > > 4) Navamsa lord> > > 5) Nakshatra lord.> > > > > > NSD if they get a chance they will give, that depends on fixed relationship as per natural chart. So there is no order for the same. Except that if they are in 1:7 then they cease to become NSD’s.> > > > > > The reason for the above order is that if you notice that the last 2 are only one way, means planet comes sd to navamsa lord or nak lord so its one way. Means planet can replace the nav lord or nak lord if they are unable to give the result but not vice versa.> > > When planets are in same navamsa then they are 2 way means both can replace each other.> > > > > > Hence the distinction. > > > > > > Just try to understand the essence of the same.> > > Cheers !!!> > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > > > On Behalf Of BPShiv> > > Thursday November 12, 2009 12:48 PM> > > > > > Re: Re: Practice Chart> > > > > > > > >  > > > Dear Devi Singh ji,> > > My answers are in purple. Seniors please correct my errors as this is the very basic portion of KAS that we are strengthening.> > > > > > > > > Please clarify CAPS...this is new to me?> > > > > > "2.All Planets cojoin in sign NO"> > > By this i mean to say if two planets are in one sign in rashi chart ...for example ju and ma both are in Leo...both become samdharmi to each other....ma has low points so Ma can replace Ju > > > NO. Not in Rasi BUT YES in navamsa. If Ju and Ma are in Leo in Rasi they cannot be SD but if they are in same navamsa then they are SD.> > > In Rasi Ju and Ma have to be in the same sign AND also in the same nakshatra.> > > > > > "6.Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO"> > > This is case where Ju is in Leo in rashi chart and Ma is in Leo in navamsa.....both are in Leo and become samdharmi> > > No. But according to lesson 25 they could be SD if they both have more points. > > > > > > "8.Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO"> > > This is case where Ju with 5 point in Tarus and placed in 4th house....so LoD for 7th house is Ve and Ju can give result due to its placement so samdharmi to Ve ....can replace Ve> > > NO. Planet is not SD to sign Lo itself in Rasi.> > > Here in your example if you are talking about 4:10 relationship than if Ju has 5 bindus in 4th place and if Ma is in 10th place with 3 bindus than Ju can be SD to Ma provided it has more bindus. > > > > > > "9.If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra NO"> > > This is case Ju is with Ra in rashi/navamsa.......and Ra represents Su/St......so Ju samdharmi to Su/St.....I Think this is my mistake we should not consider Ra as it does not have rulership of any sign> > > > > > > > > > > > NO. Ju is not SD to Su.> > > In this case if Ju is with Ra in rasi they are not SD. If they are in Leo that means Ra represents Su. Also we have to see nakshatra Lo that Ra is in. Say Ra is in nakshatra of Ve and from two of them whichever has more bindus Ra will represent like them. If Ve has 5 bindus and Su has 3 bindus than Ra will be more like Ve and less like Su also have to check the points in WS.> > > Now if Ra is with Ju in Sa navamsa than Ra is SD to Ju and SD to Sa.> > > To summarize this ex. Ra REPRESENTS Ve and is SD to Ju and Sa.> > > > > > "Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO"> > > I think this is again not true as per your emails and lessons as well.......rather Mo natural samdharmi to Ma.............Mo can replace Ma.> > > However i have not got root cause/main reason for this ......rather what i think is Mo can not be boss .....Please clarify or provide any means where should i look?> > > > > > > > > > > > Yes. If Ma is in navamsa of Mo than Ma is SD to Mo and Ma can fill in for Mo.> > > Also, please refer to Ash ji's msg # 20953 link. Nice update and more clarifications.> > > > > > Thank you,> > > -Bella.> > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > Anup. M <dalh_1@ > > > > > > Thursday, November 12, 2009 8:48 AM> > > Re: Re: Practice Chart> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Devi singh ji,> > > > > > > > > Just wait,i hope members over here will try to explain you > > > regarding your confusions.> > > > > > > > > Regards > > > Anup> > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 12/11/09, devisigh devisingh.rajput@ wrote:> > > > > > devisigh devisingh.rajput@> > > Re: Re: Practice Chart> > > > > > Thursday, 12 November, 2009, 7:28 PM> > > > > > Dear Anup ji,> > > > > > It is really wondering for me.....something i guess incorrect in drafting/representa tion by me...let me try one more time in better way.....> > > > > > Please clarify CAPS...this is new to me?> > > > > > "2.All Planets cojoin in sign NO"> > > By this i mean to say if two planets are in one sign in rashi chart ...for example ju and ma both are in Leo...both become samdharmi to each other....ma has low points so Ma can replace Ju > > > > > > "6.Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO"> > > This is case where Ju is in Leo in rashi chart and Ma is in Leo in navamsa..... both are in Leo and become samdharmi> > > > > > "8.Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO"> > > This is case where Ju with 5 point in Tarus and placed in 4th house....so LoD for 7th house is Ve and Ju can give result due to its placement so samdharmi to Ve ....can replace Ve> > > > > > "9.If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra NO"> > > This is case Ju is with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ......and Ra represents Su/St......so Ju samdharmi to Su/St.....I Think this is my mistake we should not consider Ra as it does not have rulership of any sign> > > > > > "Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO"> > > I think this is again not true as per your emails and lessons as well.......rather Mo natural samdharmi to Ma.......... ...Mo can replace Ma.> > > However i have not got root cause/main reason for this ......rather what i think is Mo can not be boss .....Please clarify or provide any means where should i look?> > > > > > ------------ ------ > > > Regards, > > > Devisingh> > > > > > > > > Anup. M wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Devi singh ji,> > > > > > > > > My understanding is as per CAPS below.> > > > > > Regards> > > Anup> > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 11/11/09, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote:> > > > > > devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com>> > > Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart> > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> > > Wednesday, 11 November, 2009, 6:30 PM> > > > > > Dear Anup ji,> > > > > > Thank you ....for corrections on emails.....this will keep me on track and avoiding out of track.> > > > > > If Planets in navamsa have 4:10 relation we should not consider them samdharmi that is input for me.> > > > > > Below is my understanding related to samdharmi what is gathered upto 2000 emails of achieves.... .putting here so may be help full to other members as well please have a look and comment on them where requires...i have arranged them on priority basis please provides your valuable comment for them where required> > > 1. Planets making 4:10 in rashi (offcourse boss and subordinate analogy) YES > > > 2. All Planets cojoin in sign NO > > > 3. Planet is samdharmi to Lord of nakshtra sign YES > > > 4. All Planets in same nakshatra YES > > > 5. All Planets cojoin in navamsa YES > > > 6. Planets in same sign (1 in rashi and 1 in navamsa) NO> > > 7. Planet is samdharmi to Lord navamsa sign YES > > > 8. Planet is samdharmi to Lord of rashi sign------(in case HoE,HoD more then 4 points are expected) NO> > > 9. If Planet is with Ra in rashi/navamsa then consider Planets (may be 2-3) instead Ra NO > > > 10. > > > 11. Ra is samdharmi to sign lord and navamsa lord and planet cojoin in navamsa YES> > > > > > Yes it is my mistake mo,ju,ma are not natural samdharmi as per KAS......Please forgive me i might done it knowingly but not intentionally> > > In kalpurush chart ....looking 4:10> > > St and Ve are samdharmi to each other....can replace each other> > > Su samdharmi to Ma...Su can replace Ma YES> > > Ma samdharmi to Mo...Ma can replace Mo --> NO> > > ------------ ------ > > > Regards, > > > Devisingh> > > > > > Anup. M wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Devi singh ji, > > > > > > > > > I think samdharmi concept is not clear somewhere in your mail> > > > > > Pleae note that ..> > > MOON AND JU ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI > > > JU AND MARS ARE NOT NATURAL SAMDHARMI.> > > > > > Also we do not consider 4:10 relation in navamsa.> > > > > > > > > Regards> > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 10/11/09, devisigh <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=devisingh.rajput@ <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com> wrote:> > > > > > devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ gmail.com>> > > Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart> > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> > > Tuesday, 10 November, 2009, 6:56 PM> > > > > > Dear All;> > > > > > Some more thoughts to fix antra> > > > > > St full delay but st have moved 15 degree so considering 27.5-1.3=26. 3 year initial value> > > Ju aspects Hb in navamsa but is is in libra with rahu in navamsa and in nakshtra of St so it can not check to saturn so full delay no help from Ju to reduce delay as staus of Ju is not good> > > > > > no zero in SAV so no addition in delay> > > Blessing in navamsa but can not help to reduce delay> > > St is with Ra in rashi so more affilicted add delay> > > Mo aspected by Ra in rashi and St cojoin in navamsa ,As lumanaries are aspected so that will add delay > > > > > > Main dasha lord Mo is OK as karka to give 7th house events> > > > > > Mo-Mo> > > Mo LoD and Natural Samdharmi to Ju can give event> > > > > > But I think this would not be case as some what delay have to be added> > > > > > Mo-Ma> > > Ju and Ma both in cancer one in rasi and another in navamsa makes them samdharmi> > > Ju and Ma both are natural samdharmi> > > Ju and Ma 4:10 in rashi/navamsa> > > Ju LoE and high point So Event can be in 3rd sector of it.> > > > > > > > > Mo-Ra> > > Ra represnts Su/Ve....considerin g more like Ve NK FK.... and cojoin Ju in navamsa so samdahrmi to Ju > > > > > > so Event can be in 3rd sector of it.......seems not wise choice still to me> > > > > > Mo-Ju> > > Ju Can give Event in 3rd Sector on it> > > > > > will come up with more thought as gets educated to this system> > > ------------ ------ > > > Regards, > > > Devisingh> > > > > > devisigh wrote: > > > Dear Ash ji,> > > > > > Namaskar> > > > > > Sincere thanks for your words attitude intension and time. > > > > > > I am trying my all time what i can collect to study this system. > > > I guess this can takes time may be 3year (less points till that time also indicate hardwork and busy for me) Will continue my attempt/doubts hope for comments from moderators for same.> > > I am enjoying achieves thanks to Krushna,sanjay, Donna,Peter, Magritta and all very nice considering old time and situation.> > > hope that will helps me to understand and utilize system and finally to absorb root or essence of system so other all system and vedic text can be clarified with same so better results can be obtained related to timing of events.> > > Everybody is trying/pushing here only to help others using there own approach It is really appreciated GOD WILL HELP THEM WHO HELPED OTHERS> > > > > > Please find below is thought process/approach:> > > I am taking acceptance that person is not mentally retired and birth details are correct no rectification required> > > > > > Quality of 7th house:> > > * checking Ju in Libra in rashi/navamsa. ...navamsa has that...it is RK,NRK and LoE..seems not good for marriage. > > > * checking Ve nakshatra in rashi...bharni. ..ok > > > * checking Su and Ve distance in rashi...less then 43...ok > > > * checking Ve is with Ra,St or aspect in rashi/navamsa. ....Ve is with St in navamsa....spoils Ve more > > > * checking LoA,LoB,LoC, LoD,LoE in rashi.....Ve, St..Mo,Ju > > > * checking planets with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ..Sa and Ju.....St is LoC and Ju is loE for 7th house and LoA for 5th house. > > > * checking Ra aspects on house in rashi/navamsa. ..9,12,2. .7,9,11.. 12th is HoE,2nd is HoA,9th is karak for HoA and HoC for child..7th is HB,11th is HC > > > * checking Ra aspects on planets in rashi and navamsa...Me, Su......Me 6th lord become more malefic and Su LoB for child case > > > * checking for planets with 6th/12th lord in rashi/navamsa. .... Ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord.....me is with ve in navamsa spoils ve. > > > * checking for aspects on house in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... > > > * checking for aspects on planets in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... > > > * cheking malefic aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....Ju with 5 points aspects to HoE,Ve with 6 points aspects to HB > > > * cheking benific aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....St with 2 points also LoC aspects to HB,HA and Mo aspects to HB> > > Blessings,compatibi lity,DBCE, strong house,strong planets:> > > * as usual to be looked will look another time> > > Finding significator:> > > * checking for 2nd lord in rashi......Ve is 2nd lord...Ve antra will bring more pain > > > * looking at 2,7,11 lords...ve and st....ve is with 6 points and st is with 2 points ....left st less points and left ve 2nd lord > > > * looking at 2,7,11 occupents ...me and su...me is with 7 points and su is with 4 points ...left su less points and left me 6th lord > > > * looking at 4,12 occupents... ju and ke(ju/ju)... so ju....ju is with 5 points ....considering ju ...left as in Libra and aspect malefic to HOE > > > * consider Reperesnter for Ra/Ke...Su,Ve/ Ju,Ju.... ..left Ra as alresdy left su and ve,left ke as already left ju > > > * looking at 4,12 lords....Mo, ju....considerin g moon as already left ju....mo may act......... still requires more time for me to finalise> > > > > > ------------ ------ > > > Regards, > > > Devisingh> > > > > > Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=Corner@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Devisingh ji,> > > > > > Very nice attempt. Please continue your chain of thought. > > > Try to find the antra that you think might give marriage. Just go upto antra. > > > So first compute the delay and there after start to think over the best possible period that u think can give the event. > > > However, do write your thinking process. That will help one figure out where you are going away or your confusion. > > > Well Done. > > > Cheers !!!> > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> http://www.ashtro. ca > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=astrologyan> dtimingevents] On Behalf Of devisigh> > > Thursday November 5, 2009 6:42 AM> > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> > > Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart> > > > > > Dear All;> > > > > > My first attempt using KAS rules/techniques only> > > > > > 7th house marriage:> > > selecting Mo main Dasha which is with FK Ve for 7th house> > > Su and Ju seems significator from ws points for 7th house> > > other planets aspects 7th house i left them> > > Su is with Me which is 6th load makes Su samdharmi to 6th lord i left that> > > Ju having highest points and also LoE> > > now considering Ju only as strong significator which in RK and NRK and natural samdharmi to Mo which is LoD.> > > Ju does not have sight on A/B/C and is LoE can gives results> > > > > > Thinking for samdharmi of Ju> > > in navamsa Ju is with Ra ...makes Ju and Ra samdharmi > > > Ra can be thought to facilitate results for 7th house matters .......still this takes time for me to finalize> > > > > > ------------ ------ > > > Regards, > > > Devisingh> > > > > > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > > > > > Dear Nikhlesh ji,> > > > > > You are correct. It was a typo. It was good that I gave the degree of all planets so this mistake could be checked right in the begining.> > > > > > Thanks Nikhlesh ji.> > > > > > The date should be May 24th.> > > > > > 24th May 1979> > > 4:10 AM> > > 28N40> > > 77E13> > > > > > Sorry about that.> > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca> > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=%40> , "nikhlesh mathur" <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=nikhleshmathur@ <nikhleshmathur@ ...> wrote:> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Sub: 24th Feb 1979, 4.10 am, 28.N.40, 77.E.13> > > > Dear Ash ji,> > > > > > > > You said that Su is 9Ta31 for the above native. But a person born on the month of Feb cannot have his Sun in Taurus sign. It should be in Aquarius at this time.> > > > > > > > If other things are okay then I think the birth date is 24th May.> > > > > > > > Please confirm.> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > Nikhlesh Mathur> > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:47:29 +0530 wrote> > > > >> > > > > > > > Add to> > > > this.> > > > > > > > > > > > 6) When> > > > can the native face health problems?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash's Corner@ [kas@ <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=kas@> ...] > > > > Monday October 26, 2009> > > > 12:18 AM> > > > To:> > > > 'astrologyandtiming events@grou ps.com <http://in.mc948.mail./mc/compose?to=%27%40> '> > > > Practice Chart> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear> > > > Group,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This> > > > lady has been posting charts in various lists for many years now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is> > > > the chart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24th> > > > Feb 1979> > > > > > > > 4:10 AM> > > > > > > > 28N40> > > > > > > > 77E13> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From> > > > what I gather, she had an affair or liked some guy that she wanted to> > > > marry. I am not clear from her posts> > > > that if she married the same guy or not.> > > > Her parents were looking out for some proposals for her.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If this> > > > chart came blindly to you, can you predict the following.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1)> > > > Marriage> > > > > > > > 2)> > > > Child birth> > > > > > > > 3)> > > > Marital Relations overall> > > > > > > > 4)> > > > She has been complaining that relations are bad after marriage and> > > > asked if she should go for divorce.> > > > > > > > 5)> > > > Why she had affair or what are the yogs for that in this chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planet> > > > > > > > > > > > Degrees> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As> > > > > > > > > > > > 15 Ar 55> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Su> > > > > > > > > > > > 9 Ta 31> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mo> > > > > > > > > > > > 13 Ar 48> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ma> > > > > > > > > > > > 13 Ar 8> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Me> > > > > > > > > > > > 2 Ta 15> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ju> > > > > > > > > > > > 11 Cn 16> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ve> > > > > > > > > > > > 14 Ar 30> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sa> > > > > > > > > > > > 14 Le 35> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ra> > > > > > > > > > > > 20 Le 59> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ke> > > > > > > > > > > > 20 Aq 59> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca> > > >> > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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