Guest guest Report post Posted November 19, 2009 Dear Moderators and Group, I want to write something .......it may be worth at this point as beginner (to this system) but will say below. Nice guide and discipline across group too. Question was more related to marriage (i guess KAS might have expertise in this) so really very helpfull and conclusive direction as such. Some members have asked cross questions but more are expected at this points as they are much help full for all ...as per my understanding (I encourage group to ask more questions to each individuals and also reply to them as well) what i think that answer does not have much importance (as i have answer for many charts and also answer for particular antra as well) it is always easy to come up with reasoning that tells this is karyesh according to this rule so that is very easy ........failure have to be addressed as well before publishing results so everybody known what are incorrect answers. this also gives chance to participant to improve .......before answer and what is his reasoning correct/incorrect (hammer can impact if iron is hot) at this stage P.S. "There is no reason to be happy and no reason to be unhappy.... god bless all and we bless god" ------------------ Regards, Devisingh Anup. M wrote:  Dear Ash ji and Group,   This chart comprises so many questions that should have been asked though every members tried his/her level best to ask and their efforts really worth appreciation.This is not a chart but simply a revision/excercise of all 36 lessons.   Well done everybody and thanks to you Ash ji for bringing this wonderful chart.Owing to your continue efforts that all members were showing keen interest irrespect of few diversions.   After a long time we were enjoying through this learning proccess on a single chart during all this one month where members did not hesitate to ask their doubts as well as they kept trying on this till their inner satisfaction.   Still a last call,if any of the member wants to write something please do so.Result of this can be declared now (friday will be best option) because some memebers are busy or away after giving their thoughts time after time.   Regards Anup          --- On Thu, 19/11/09, ashsam73 <kas wrote: ashsam73 <kas Re: Practice Chart Thursday, 19 November, 2009, 12:09 AM  Dear Anup ji and All participating members in the learning exercise: We had waited for Hussein ji to get back and he came back and made his attemps. Now, Shalini ji is going to get busy or might be away with limited access for email and has taken good efforts during the quiz. Please give your opinions, if there is any further scope or attempts or revisions for any answers? If you all think that this thread has now come to its natural end, then we can give the answer so everyone can go back and study their own attempts and then DISCUSS the answers. If you all feel that you all want a bit more time to re-visit then please advise? Anup ji, what is your opinion? Is it now time to give the answer? Please advise me. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "shalini" <shalini3004@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Ash Ji, > > Thank you for the time you have taken to first put together the write up/post on Guru and second this post. I understand you are very busy and I am grateful/fortunate to have you > and dear Anup Ji,Manu Ji, Prabha Ji, Nikhlesh Ji, Hussein Ji, Bella Ji the "astrologyandtiming events"group to help me and guide me to learn and understand KAS. When I joined the group at the end of January I was taking classes, which finished in August. I will admit I spent whatever time I could with my nose pressed to my screen pouring through the archives as best I could. It is not until recently that I came out to participate in the quiz's that have been posted in the last month. You encourage discussion and I believe this is monumental in the process of learning, but is only part of the learning process. As you have mentioned the archives are there and that is the foundation for any of us and actually is very enlightening. You have indeed, from what I have been able to touch upon, asked so many of the questions I have had in the archives and I am learning from everyone's input in past and present. > The quiz that you posted earlier and the practice chart that we have been discussing on last few weeks the churning between us with everything that has been posted is something learned. For me everybody is a senior member and I can only learn from all and give my attempts/perspectiv e/interpretation s. I am a student and have much, much to learn. I hope by my questioning I am not conveying that I only want free answer's that is not my intention or the reason I am in this group. Moreover, I do not feel if a true student just asking for answer can have the capacity to really learn any material. > I do use the search and read the posts in order they are posted, and I thank goodness for this ability. I am doing my best to take in and understand the basics. I may ask a question that may possibly have been asked in the archives, but there may be reasons that one cannot go through the archives as one wishes due to xyz problems. Therefore, discussions are very important I believe. > You asked me to write up my thoughts and I did so. It is not that I am only interested in Guru delay any delay is an important factor to understand as this groups focus is on timing. As your questions to me on Guru showed that I have much to learn in this arena and am working on the learning/understand ing and will post those answers again in some time and hope to give you the answer that you will not find fault in. > From next week I will be out for some time and will have very limited access to the internet, I will not be able to continue my studies of the archives, but if there is a discussion going on in the group I should hope to be a part of it. > > With Kind Regards, > > Shalini > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "ashsam73" <kas@> wrote: > > > > Dear Shalini ji, > > > > All your questions that you have asked have been replied by me at some point or the other. I agree, that it might not be easy to find all my mails as the archives is growing, but then with the new search feature it might make it a tad more simplified. > > > > More than anything, else, I would like u to practice. I might be available to reply to all your queries, as life is getting me very busy now a days, then in that case what to do? > > > > Here I will give you some guidance that I have personally gone though. I used to ask all kinds of questions to Guru ji, and you can see that in the archives, and I am sure everyone has seen that. That is normal. That time, the archives had only so much information and Guru ji patiently answered and still does answer all my questions. There came one time, when, I look back now, I asked him some question and he advised me to practice. There was some concept that somehow was a hurdle and I kept getting stuck there, and I see that in your questions that you keep getting stuck on trying to judge the delay of Jupiter or when u get stuck in trying to find if a particular antra can give result or you are not following the steps corectly or maybe overlooking something and then u get stuck up and then want an answer. > > > > Again, I understand that, I understand where you are coming from, as I have personally walked down that same path. Likewise, if you see Anup ji, or Prabha ji or just for that matter Nikhlesh ji, Ramesh ji etc etc, these names I am taking as I am seeing their progress from a long time by their inputs on the list oh and Hussein ji as well. All of them are taking charts and practicing. > > > > So here are some steps that you can follow as a guide. > > > > 1) Take charts, dont assume any chart as accurate, but find charts with event dates given. > > 2) Do not look at the events. You can get a host of charts from the archives with given events. > > 3) Cast the chart, take a print out of the same. > > 4) Clear your mind of all worries, stress, or anything else. > > 5) With a cool mind just focus on the chart. Just see the chart and note down key points some observatations. > > 6) Like of example observatons DBCE points, what do u see the nature of the person is, what is the lagna points, does the native has blessings, any zeroes, any 4:10 or any 4:10 with opposition or some other salient points that u can see like Ve in krittika, Ju in libra etc etc etc.. > > 7) Then focus on the question and then note down key poitns for that area of study. Say u are studing marriage then check the laws for marriage, first check if marriage is promised, then get a judge on quality, the lagna and 7th etc etc relations, study karak and rk, study 0's, study from desh, kaal, paatra, study delay etc etc etc. > > 8) Then start to narrow down to timing. For that first come to antra. Try to judge if that antra can give marriage, or if there are any overriding principles for moderating or removing delays like blessings of ju aspect on sa etc etc. > > 9) Then note down your doubts, if u are not certain of the antra. > > 10) Move to the next antra if u are not sure and note down YOUR REASONS. This is for you only. So that u can keep a trail of your questions and where u are getting stuck. > > 11) Then solve other events like job, child birth etc etc as per the chart u have taken. > > 12) Check the answre and then check your analysis and then u will get where if u are correct of where have u made mistake. > > 13) Note down your mistake along with your analysis and where u got stuck. > > 14) Remember this and solve next chart. > > > > If u solve 1000's of charts in due course of time, and each time remember where u have made mistakes, then with experience will come intution. > > > > You will also get the variations in some cases where Ju is causing delay where Sa is causing or delay is more than 36 years or 42 years in special cases so like that. > > > > There is a huge repository of charts with events solved in the archives, make us of it. > > > > Then when someone asks questiosn like wil ju cause delay and such and such is the scenario, then u will know the answer from you strong knowledge base and your intution will guide u. > > > > > > As the adage goes > > > > "Give a fish and he eats for a day, teahc him to fish and he eats for a life time" > > > > Hope that helps, > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "shalini" <shalini3004@ > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ash Ji and Group, > > > > > > Considering Lesson 36 these are my thoughts please correct me where I am straying off track. As per scenario 5 it states, "if guru is LoA or LoB it must be malefic for the houses it owns; less than 4 bindus." > > > > > > This scenario takes place in her D-9 chart with 4:13 am time. If we consider Guru's bindus for Pisces in SAV we find that Guru gives 2 > > > > > > (for SAV totals in D-1,D-9 Charts do we consider D-9 chart SAV??) > > > > > > bindus, thus it would be malefic and there would be Guru delay I believe. Guru delay is considered over when it aspects 7H, 7L or crosses it's natal position and can be calculated only after Saturn delay is over. When Saturn delay is over Guru is in Virgo does not aspect 7h or 7L, then moves to HB does aspect 7L in lagna but I think because it is in HB in Libra the delay is not over, in scorpio also it does not aspect 7H, 7L. Then in Sagittarius it aspects 7L Venus then this should end Guru delay. > > > Look forward to feedback. > > > > > > With Kind Regards, > > > > > > Shalini > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "ashsam73" <kas@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Shalini ji, > > > > > > > > What do you think? Share your thoughts in detail and discuss. That is why this group is created to begin with so that discussion of such nature can be held and through discussion collective knowledge will grow. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "shalini" <shalini3004@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash Ji and Group, > > > > > > > > > > If we change the time to 3:13am as I believe you have mentioned in earlier post, this gives Virgo as Lagna in D-9 chart where now Guru will be in second house (karaka house, HA) and is lord of HB, this would then give Guru delay, would this be correct? > > > > > > > > > > With Kind Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Shalini > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > > > Finally i am able to convince myself and fixed antra as below > > > > > > > > > > > > Selection of Ra/Ju antra is somewhat difficult as i have strong > > > > > > arguments for both side though i will go with Ju and considering Ra for > > > > > > affair before marriage > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Marriage > > > > > > Mo-Ju antra will bring marriage > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) Child birth > > > > > > Mo-St antra brings child birth > > > > > > ----Ve is strong significator from ws points > > > > > > ----St is natural samdharmi to Ve > > > > > > ----St is in nakshatra of Ve and also cojoin Ve in navamsa > > > > > > ----St is LoE for 5th house can give child birth > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) Marital Relations overall > > > > > > ----karak Ve,Ju not good and marital relations seems not good > > > > > > ----except Ve all are having good points for 7th house not Bad > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) She has been complaining that relations are bad after marriage > > > > > > and asked if she should go for divorce. > > > > > > ----if she asked for divorce (which is obvious as karak are not good) > > > > > > then i suggest should not go for divorce...(looking DBCE and ws points > > > > > > for 7th house) > > > > > > > > > > > > 5) Why she had affair or what are the yogs for that in this chart. > > > > > > --there is delay in marriage and by considering 12th house (foreign > > > > > > relations) Ve is NK,FK for this and having less points for 12th > > > > > > --Mo-Ra(Venus) antra before marriage indicate that Ra being in 5th house > > > > > > can act as LoE and Eager to accoplish this. > > > > > > --Ve cojoin Ma and aspected by Ra in rashi > > > > > > --Ve in navamsa of Su and cojoin St in navamsa > > > > > > > > > > > > 6) Health > > > > > > ----Su is 12th lord for 6th house concern and placed in second house > > > > > > that will increase bad deed of this Su and this can gives health issues > > > > > > for native...in Ws Su has more then 11 points > > > > > > ----Me is strong significator from WS for 6th and 1st house and also it > > > > > > is LoD for 6th house and LoE for First house events > > > > > > ----Me being nakshatra of Su ...Me is samdharmi of Su and also LoB for > > > > > > 6th house with more then 5 points..... > > > > > > ----Me antra diffinately brings some health issues for native > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ ------ > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Devisingh > > > > > > > > > > > > devisigh wrote: > > > > > > > Dear All; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some more thoughts to fix antra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > St full delay but st have moved 15 degree so considering 27.5-1.3=26. 3 > > > > > > > year initial value > > > > > > > Ju aspects Hb in navamsa but is is in libra with rahu in navamsa and > > > > > > > in nakshtra of St so it can not check to saturn so full delay no help > > > > > > > from Ju to reduce delay as staus of Ju is not good > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no zero in SAV so no addition in delay > > > > > > > Blessing in navamsa but can not help to reduce delay > > > > > > > St is with Ra in rashi so more affilicted add delay > > > > > > > Mo aspected by Ra in rashi and St cojoin in navamsa ,As lumanaries are > > > > > > > aspected so that will add delay > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Main dasha lord Mo is OK as karka to give 7th house events > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mo-Mo > > > > > > > Mo LoD and Natural Samdharmi to Ju can give event > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I think this would not be case as some what delay have to be added > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mo-Ma > > > > > > > Ju and Ma both in cancer one in rasi and another in navamsa makes them > > > > > > > samdharmi > > > > > > > Ju and Ma both are natural samdharmi > > > > > > > Ju and Ma 4:10 in rashi/navamsa > > > > > > > Ju LoE and high point So Event can be in 3rd sector of it.-----LEFT MA > > > > > > > IT CAN NOT ACT NOT REQUIRED > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mo-Ra > > > > > > > Ra represnts Su/Ve....considerin g more like Ve NK FK.... and cojoin Ju > > > > > > > in navamsa so samdahrmi to Ju > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so Event can be in 3rd sector of it.......seems not wise choice still > > > > > > > to me-----AFFAIR SEEMS MORE LOGICAL IN THIS TIME > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mo-Ju > > > > > > > Ju Can give Event in 3rd Sector on it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will come up with more thought as gets educated to this system > > > > > > > ------------ ------ > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Devisingh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > devisigh wrote: > > > > > > >> Dear Ash ji, > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Namaskar > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Sincere thanks for your words attitude intension and time. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> I am trying my all time what i can collect to study this system. > > > > > > >> I guess this can takes time may be 3year (less points till that time > > > > > > >> also indicate hardwork and busy for me) Will continue my > > > > > > >> attempt/doubts hope for comments from moderators for same. > > > > > > >> I am enjoying achieves thanks to Krushna,sanjay, Donna,Peter, Magritta > > > > > > >> and all very nice considering old time and situation. > > > > > > >> hope that will helps me to understand and utilize system and finally > > > > > > >> to absorb root or essence of system so other all system and vedic > > > > > > >> text can be clarified with same so better results can be obtained > > > > > > >> related to timing of events. > > > > > > >> Everybody is trying/pushing here only to help others using there own > > > > > > >> approach It is really appreciated GOD WILL HELP THEM WHO HELPED OTHERS > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> *Please find below is thought process/approach: > > > > > > >> *I am taking acceptance that person is not mentally retired and birth > > > > > > >> details are correct no rectification required > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Quality of 7th house: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> * checking Ju in Libra in rashi/navamsa. ...navamsa has that...it > > > > > > >> is RK,NRK and LoE..seems not good for marriage. > > > > > > >> * checking Ve nakshatra in rashi...bharni. ..ok > > > > > > >> * checking Su and Ve distance in rashi...less then 43...ok > > > > > > >> * checking Ve is with Ra,St or aspect in rashi/navamsa. ....Ve is > > > > > > >> with St in navamsa....spoils Ve more > > > > > > >> * checking LoA,LoB,LoC, LoD,LoE in rashi.....Ve, St..Mo,Ju > > > > > > >> * checking planets with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ..Sa and Ju.....St is > > > > > > >> LoC and Ju is loE for 7th house and LoA for 5th house. > > > > > > >> * checking Ra aspects on house in > > > > > > >> rashi/navamsa. ..9,12,2. ..7,9,11.. 12th is HoE,2nd is HoA,9th is > > > > > > >> karak for HoA and HoC for child..7th is HB,11th is HC > > > > > > >> * checking Ra aspects on planets in rashi and > > > > > > >> navamsa...Me, Su......Me 6th lord become more malefic and Su LoB > > > > > > >> for child case > > > > > > >> * checking for planets with 6th/12th lord in rashi/navamsa. .... > > > > > > >> Ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord.....me is with ve in navamsa > > > > > > >> spoils ve. > > > > > > >> * checking for aspects on house in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th > > > > > > >> lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... > > > > > > >> * checking for aspects on planets in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th > > > > > > >> lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord..... > > > > > > >> * cheking malefic aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....Ju with 5 points > > > > > > >> aspects to HoE,Ve with 6 points aspects to HB > > > > > > >> * cheking benific aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....St with 2 points > > > > > > >> also LoC aspects to HB,HA and Mo aspects to HB > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Blessings,compatibi lity,DBCE, strong house,strong planets: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> * as usual to be looked will look another time > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Finding significator: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> * checking for 2nd lord in rashi......Ve is 2nd lord...Ve antra > > > > > > >> will bring more pain > > > > > > >> * looking at 2,7,11 lords...ve and st....ve is with 6 points and > > > > > > >> st is with 2 points ....left st less points and left ve 2nd lord > > > > > > >> * looking at 2,7,11 occupents ....me and su...me is with 7 points > > > > > > >> and su is with 4 points ...left su less points and left me 6th lord > > > > > > >> * looking at 4,12 occupents... ju and ke(ju/ju)... so ju....ju is > > > > > > >> with 5 points ....considering ju ....left as in Libra and aspect > > > > > > >> malefic to HOE > > > > > > >> * consider Reperesnter for Ra/Ke...Su,Ve/ Ju,Ju.... ..left Ra as > > > > > > >> alresdy left su and ve,left ke as already left ju > > > > > > >> * looking at 4,12 lords....Mo, ju....considerin g moon as already > > > > > > >> left ju....mo may act......... still requires more time for me > > > > > > >> to finalise > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> ------------ ------ > > > > > > >> Regards, > > > > > > >> Devisingh > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Ash's Corner@ wrote: > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Dear Devisingh ji, > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Very nice attempt. Please continue your chain of thought. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Try to find the antra that you think might give marriage. Just go > > > > > > >>> upto antra. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> So first compute the delay and there after start to think over the > > > > > > >>> best possible period that u think can give the event. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> However, do write your thinking process. That will help one figure > > > > > > >>> out where you are going away or your confusion. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Well Done. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> *Cheers !!!* > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> *Ash -> **http://www.ashtro. ca <http://www.ashtro. ca/>* > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> ** astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > > > > >>> [astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com] *On Behalf Of > > > > > > >>> *devisigh > > > > > > >>> *Sent:* Thursday November 5, 2009 6:42 AM > > > > > > >>> *To:* astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > > > > >>> *Subject:* Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Dear All; > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> My first attempt using KAS rules/techniques only > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> 7th house marriage: > > > > > > >>> selecting Mo main Dasha which is with FK Ve for 7th house > > > > > > >>> Su and Ju seems significator from ws points for 7th house > > > > > > >>> other planets aspects 7th house i left them > > > > > > >>> Su is with Me which is 6th load makes Su samdharmi to 6th lord i > > > > > > >>> left that > > > > > > >>> Ju having highest points and also LoE > > > > > > >>> now considering Ju only as strong significator which in RK and NRK > > > > > > >>> and natural samdharmi to Mo which is LoD. > > > > > > >>> Ju does not have sight on A/B/C and is LoE can gives results > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Thinking for samdharmi of Ju > > > > > > >>> in navamsa Ju is with Ra ....makes Ju and Ra samdharmi > > > > > > >>> Ra can be thought to facilitate results for 7th house matters > > > > > > >>> .......still this takes time for me to finalize > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> ------------ ------ > > > > > > >>> Regards, > > > > > > >>> Devisingh > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> ashsam73 wrote: > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Dear Nikhlesh ji, > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> You are correct. It was a typo. It was good that I gave the > > > > > > >>> degree of all planets so this mistake could be checked right in > > > > > > >>> the begining. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Thanks Nikhlesh ji. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> The date should be May 24th. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> 24th May 1979 > > > > > > >>> 4:10 AM > > > > > > >>> 28N40 > > > > > > >>> 77E13 > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Sorry about that. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Cheers !!! > > > > > > >>> Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca <http://www.ashtro. ca> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > > > > >>> <astrologyan dtimingevents% 40. com>, "nikhlesh > > > > > > >>> mathur" <nikhleshmathur@ > wrote: > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > Sub: 24th Feb 1979, 4.10 am, 28.N.40, 77.E.13 > > > > > > >>> > Dear Ash ji, > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > You said that Su is 9Ta31 for the above native. But a person > > > > > > >>> born on the month of Feb cannot have his Sun in Taurus sign. It > > > > > > >>> should be in Aquarius at this time. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > If other things are okay then I think the birth date is 24th May. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > Please confirm. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > Regards, > > > > > > >>> > Nikhlesh Mathur > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:47:29 +0530 wrote > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > Add to > > > > > > >>> > this. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > 6) When > > > > > > >>> > can the native face health problems? > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > Cheers !!! > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca <http://www.ashtro. ca> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > Ash's Corner@ [kas@ ] > > > > > > >>> > Monday October 26, 2009 > > > > > > >>> > 12:18 AM > > > > > > >>> > To: > > > > > > >>> > 'astrologyandtiming events@grou ps.com > > > > > > >>> <%27astrolog yandtimingevents %40. com>' > > > > > > >>> > Practice Chart > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > Dear > > > > > > >>> > Group, > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > This > > > > > > >>> > lady has been posting charts in various lists for many years now. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > Here is > > > > > > >>> > the chart > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > 24th > > > > > > >>> > Feb 1979 > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > 4:10 AM > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > 28N40 > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > 77E13 > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > From > > > > > > >>> > what I gather, she had an affair or liked some guy that she > > > > > > >>> wanted to > > > > > > >>> > marry. I am not clear from her posts > > > > > > >>> > that if she married the same guy or not. > > > > > > >>> > Her parents were looking out for some proposals for her. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > If this > > > > > > >>> > chart came blindly to you, can you predict the following. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > 1) > > > > > > >>> > Marriage > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > 2) > > > > > > >>> > Child birth > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > 3) > > > > > > >>> > Marital Relations overall > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > 4) > > > > > > >>> > She has been complaining that relations are bad after marriage and > > > > > > >>> > asked if she should go for divorce. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > 5) > > > > > > >>> > Why she had affair or what are the yogs for that in this chart. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > Planet > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > Degrees > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > As > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > 15 Ar 55 > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > Su > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > 9 Ta 31 > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > Mo > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > 13 Ar 48 > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > Ma > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > 13 Ar 8 > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > Me > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > 2 Ta 15 > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > Ju > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > 11 Cn 16 > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > Ve > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > 14 Ar 30 > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > Sa > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > 14 Le 35 > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > Ra > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > 20 Le 59 > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > Ke > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > 20 Aq 59 > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > Cheers !!! > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca <http://www.ashtro. ca> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Report post Posted November 19, 2009 Dear Ash ji and Anup ji Excuse me if because of shortage of time I couldn't take apart in discussion very good.As this chart isn't near me at this time,I will try to tell something by memory.On that chart it is clear that the general status of chart is not happy.Also it seems blessings are not so strong.Some members told marriage will happen in Ju antra and the others told it will take place in Ra as Ra the lowest planet as per its points in WS for 7th house focus.My answer was that it has taken place in Ra antra as I told above.I think it's better to see answer now.After ending this discussion,I will give a chart for analyzing the blessing there.I have a good memory dear Ash ji.One day I was working on a special chart which you had given in the group.I asked a question about blessing there.I remember a day that you told me it's better to save that chart in a file and then at a suitable time discus it.I think after giving answer of the chart under discussion,it will be good to give that chart.All members can discus about it to learn more about blessings.Really I think we need more practical examples for blessings.Best WishesHussein , "Anup. M" <dalh_1 wrote:>> Dear Ash ji and Group,>  >  > This chart comprises so many questions that should have been > asked though every members tried his/her level best to ask and> their efforts really worth appreciation.This is not a chart but simply> a revision/excercise of all 36 lessons.>  >  > Well done everybody and thanks to you Ash ji for bringing this wonderful> chart.Owing to your continue efforts that all members were showing > keen interest irrespect of few diversions.>  >  > After a long time we were enjoying through this learning proccess> on a single chart during all this one month where members did not > hesitate to ask their doubts as well as they kept trying on this till > their inner satisfaction.>  >  > Still a last call,if any of the member wants to write something please> do so.Result of this can be declared now (friday will be best option)> because some memebers are busy or away after giving their thoughts> time after time.>  >  > Regards> Anup>  >  >  >    >  >  >  > > --- On Thu, 19/11/09, ashsam73 kas wrote:> > > ashsam73 kas Re: Practice Chart> > Thursday, 19 November, 2009, 12:09 AM> > >  > > > > Dear Anup ji and All participating members in the learning exercise:> > We had waited for Hussein ji to get back and he came back and made his attemps. Now, Shalini ji is going to get busy or might be away with limited access for email and has taken good efforts during the quiz. > > Please give your opinions, if there is any further scope or attempts or revisions for any answers? > > If you all think that this thread has now come to its natural end, then we can give the answer so everyone can go back and study their own attempts and then DISCUSS the answers.> > If you all feel that you all want a bit more time to re-visit then please advise?> > Anup ji, what is your opinion? Is it now time to give the answer?> > Please advise me.> > Cheers !!!> Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca> > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "shalini" <shalini3004@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Ash Ji,> > > > Thank you for the time you have taken to first put together the write up/post on Guru and second this post. I understand you are very busy and I am grateful/fortunate to have you > > and dear Anup Ji,Manu Ji, Prabha Ji, Nikhlesh Ji, Hussein Ji, Bella Ji the "astrologyandtiming events"group to help me and guide me to learn and understand KAS. When I joined the group at the end of January I was taking classes, which finished in August. I will admit I spent whatever time I could with my nose pressed to my screen pouring through the archives as best I could. It is not until recently that I came out to participate in the quiz's that have been posted in the last month. You encourage discussion and I believe this is monumental in the process of learning, but is only part of the learning process. As you have mentioned the archives are there and that is the foundation for any of us and actually is very enlightening. You have indeed, from what I have been able to touch upon, asked so many of the questions I have had in the archives and I am learning from everyone's input in past and present. > > The quiz that you posted earlier and the practice chart that we have been discussing on last few weeks the churning between us with everything that has been posted is something learned. For me everybody is a senior member and I can only learn from all and give my attempts/perspectiv e/interpretation s. I am a student and have much, much to learn. I hope by my questioning I am not conveying that I only want free answer's that is not my intention or the reason I am in this group. Moreover, I do not feel if a true student just asking for answer can have the capacity to really learn any material.> > I do use the search and read the posts in order they are posted, and I thank goodness for this ability. I am doing my best to take in and understand the basics. I may ask a question that may possibly have been asked in the archives, but there may be reasons that one cannot go through the archives as one wishes due to xyz problems. Therefore, discussions are very important I believe. > > You asked me to write up my thoughts and I did so. It is not that I am only interested in Guru delay any delay is an important factor to understand as this groups focus is on timing. As your questions to me on Guru showed that I have much to learn in this arena and am working on the learning/understand ing and will post those answers again in some time and hope to give you the answer that you will not find fault in.> > From next week I will be out for some time and will have very limited access to the internet, I will not be able to continue my studies of the archives, but if there is a discussion going on in the group I should hope to be a part of it. > > > > With Kind Regards,> > > > Shalini> > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "ashsam73" <kas@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Shalini ji,> > > > > > All your questions that you have asked have been replied by me at some point or the other. I agree, that it might not be easy to find all my mails as the archives is growing, but then with the new search feature it might make it a tad more simplified.> > > > > > More than anything, else, I would like u to practice. I might be available to reply to all your queries, as life is getting me very busy now a days, then in that case what to do?> > > > > > Here I will give you some guidance that I have personally gone though. I used to ask all kinds of questions to Guru ji, and you can see that in the archives, and I am sure everyone has seen that. That is normal. That time, the archives had only so much information and Guru ji patiently answered and still does answer all my questions. There came one time, when, I look back now, I asked him some question and he advised me to practice. There was some concept that somehow was a hurdle and I kept getting stuck there, and I see that in your questions that you keep getting stuck on trying to judge the delay of Jupiter or when u get stuck in trying to find if a particular antra can give result or you are not following the steps corectly or maybe overlooking something and then u get stuck up and then want an answer.> > > > > > Again, I understand that, I understand where you are coming from, as I have personally walked down that same path. Likewise, if you see Anup ji, or Prabha ji or just for that matter Nikhlesh ji, Ramesh ji etc etc, these names I am taking as I am seeing their progress from a long time by their inputs on the list oh and Hussein ji as well. All of them are taking charts and practicing. > > > > > > So here are some steps that you can follow as a guide.> > > > > > 1) Take charts, dont assume any chart as accurate, but find charts with event dates given.> > > 2) Do not look at the events. You can get a host of charts from the archives with given events.> > > 3) Cast the chart, take a print out of the same.> > > 4) Clear your mind of all worries, stress, or anything else. > > > 5) With a cool mind just focus on the chart. Just see the chart and note down key points some observatations.> > > 6) Like of example observatons DBCE points, what do u see the nature of the person is, what is the lagna points, does the native has blessings, any zeroes, any 4:10 or any 4:10 with opposition or some other salient points that u can see like Ve in krittika, Ju in libra etc etc etc..> > > 7) Then focus on the question and then note down key poitns for that area of study. Say u are studing marriage then check the laws for marriage, first check if marriage is promised, then get a judge on quality, the lagna and 7th etc etc relations, study karak and rk, study 0's, study from desh, kaal, paatra, study delay etc etc etc.> > > 8) Then start to narrow down to timing. For that first come to antra. Try to judge if that antra can give marriage, or if there are any overriding principles for moderating or removing delays like blessings of ju aspect on sa etc etc.> > > 9) Then note down your doubts, if u are not certain of the antra.> > > 10) Move to the next antra if u are not sure and note down YOUR REASONS. This is for you only. So that u can keep a trail of your questions and where u are getting stuck.> > > 11) Then solve other events like job, child birth etc etc as per the chart u have taken.> > > 12) Check the answre and then check your analysis and then u will get where if u are correct of where have u made mistake. > > > 13) Note down your mistake along with your analysis and where u got stuck.> > > 14) Remember this and solve next chart.> > > > > > If u solve 1000's of charts in due course of time, and each time remember where u have made mistakes, then with experience will come intution. > > > > > > You will also get the variations in some cases where Ju is causing delay where Sa is causing or delay is more than 36 years or 42 years in special cases so like that.> > > > > > There is a huge repository of charts with events solved in the archives, make us of it.> > > > > > Then when someone asks questiosn like wil ju cause delay and such and such is the scenario, then u will know the answer from you strong knowledge base and your intution will guide u.> > > > > > > > > As the adage goes> > > > > > "Give a fish and he eats for a day, teahc him to fish and he eats for a life time"> > > > > > Hope that helps,> > > Cheers !!!> > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca> > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "shalini" <shalini3004@ > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Ash Ji and Group,> > > > > > > > Considering Lesson 36 these are my thoughts please correct me where I am straying off track. As per scenario 5 it states, "if guru is LoA or LoB it must be malefic for the houses it owns; less than 4 bindus."> > > > > > > > This scenario takes place in her D-9 chart with 4:13 am time. If we consider Guru's bindus for Pisces in SAV we find that Guru gives 2 > > > > > > > > (for SAV totals in D-1,D-9 Charts do we consider D-9 chart SAV??) > > > > > > > > bindus, thus it would be malefic and there would be Guru delay I believe. Guru delay is considered over when it aspects 7H, 7L or crosses it's natal position and can be calculated only after Saturn delay is over. When Saturn delay is over Guru is in Virgo does not aspect 7h or 7L, then moves to HB does aspect 7L in lagna but I think because it is in HB in Libra the delay is not over, in scorpio also it does not aspect 7H, 7L. Then in Sagittarius it aspects 7L Venus then this should end Guru delay. > > > > Look forward to feedback.> > > > > > > > With Kind Regards,> > > > > > > > Shalini> > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "ashsam73" <kas@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Shalini ji,> > > > > > > > > > What do you think? Share your thoughts in detail and discuss. That is why this group is created to begin with so that discussion of such nature can be held and through discussion collective knowledge will grow. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca> > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, "shalini" <shalini3004@ > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Ash Ji and Group,> > > > > > > > > > > > If we change the time to 3:13am as I believe you have mentioned in earlier post, this gives Virgo as Lagna in D-9 chart where now Guru will be in second house (karaka house, HA) and is lord of HB, this would then give Guru delay, would this be correct? > > > > > > > > > > > > With Kind Regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > Shalini> > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com, devisigh <devisingh.rajput@ > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear All,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Finally i am able to convince myself and fixed antra as below> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Selection of Ra/Ju antra is somewhat difficult as i have strong > > > > > > > arguments for both side though i will go with Ju and considering Ra for > > > > > > > affair before marriage> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Marriage> > > > > > > Mo-Ju antra will bring marriage> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) Child birth> > > > > > > Mo-St antra brings child birth> > > > > > > ----Ve is strong significator from ws points> > > > > > > ----St is natural samdharmi to Ve> > > > > > > ----St is in nakshatra of Ve and also cojoin Ve in navamsa > > > > > > > ----St is LoE for 5th house can give child birth> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) Marital Relations overall> > > > > > > ----karak Ve,Ju not good and marital relations seems not good> > > > > > > ----except Ve all are having good points for 7th house not Bad> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) She has been complaining that relations are bad after marriage > > > > > > > and asked if she should go for divorce.> > > > > > > ----if she asked for divorce (which is obvious as karak are not good) > > > > > > > then i suggest should not go for divorce...(looking DBCE and ws points > > > > > > > for 7th house)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5) Why she had affair or what are the yogs for that in this chart.> > > > > > > --there is delay in marriage and by considering 12th house (foreign > > > > > > > relations) Ve is NK,FK for this and having less points for 12th> > > > > > > --Mo-Ra(Venus) antra before marriage indicate that Ra being in 5th house > > > > > > > can act as LoE and Eager to accoplish this.> > > > > > > --Ve cojoin Ma and aspected by Ra in rashi> > > > > > > --Ve in navamsa of Su and cojoin St in navamsa> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6) Health> > > > > > > ----Su is 12th lord for 6th house concern and placed in second house > > > > > > > that will increase bad deed of this Su and this can gives health issues > > > > > > > for native...in Ws Su has more then 11 points> > > > > > > ----Me is strong significator from WS for 6th and 1st house and also it > > > > > > > is LoD for 6th house and LoE for First house events> > > > > > > ----Me being nakshatra of Su ...Me is samdharmi of Su and also LoB for > > > > > > > 6th house with more then 5 points.....> > > > > > > ----Me antra diffinately brings some health issues for native> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ ------> > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > Devisingh> > > > > > > > > > > > > > devisigh wrote:> > > > > > > > Dear All;> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Some more thoughts to fix antra> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > St full delay but st have moved 15 degree so considering 27.5-1.3=26. 3 > > > > > > > > year initial value> > > > > > > > Ju aspects Hb in navamsa but is is in libra with rahu in navamsa and > > > > > > > > in nakshtra of St so it can not check to saturn so full delay no help > > > > > > > > from Ju to reduce delay as staus of Ju is not good> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > no zero in SAV so no addition in delay> > > > > > > > Blessing in navamsa but can not help to reduce delay> > > > > > > > St is with Ra in rashi so more affilicted add delay> > > > > > > > Mo aspected by Ra in rashi and St cojoin in navamsa ,As lumanaries are > > > > > > > > aspected so that will add delay> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Main dasha lord Mo is OK as karka to give 7th house events> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Mo-Mo> > > > > > > > Mo LoD and Natural Samdharmi to Ju can give event> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > But I think this would not be case as some what delay have to be added> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Mo-Ma> > > > > > > > Ju and Ma both in cancer one in rasi and another in navamsa makes them > > > > > > > > samdharmi> > > > > > > > Ju and Ma both are natural samdharmi> > > > > > > > Ju and Ma 4:10 in rashi/navamsa> > > > > > > > Ju LoE and high point So Event can be in 3rd sector of it.-----LEFT MA > > > > > > > > IT CAN NOT ACT NOT REQUIRED> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Mo-Ra> > > > > > > > Ra represnts Su/Ve....considerin g more like Ve NK FK.... and cojoin Ju > > > > > > > > in navamsa so samdahrmi to Ju> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > so Event can be in 3rd sector of it.......seems not wise choice still > > > > > > > > to me-----AFFAIR SEEMS MORE LOGICAL IN THIS TIME> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Mo-Ju> > > > > > > > Ju Can give Event in 3rd Sector on it> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > will come up with more thought as gets educated to this system> > > > > > > > ------------ ------> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > Devisingh> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > devisigh wrote:> > > > > > > >> Dear Ash ji,> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >> Namaskar> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >> Sincere thanks for your words attitude intension and time.> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >> I am trying my all time what i can collect to study this system.> > > > > > > >> I guess this can takes time may be 3year (less points till that time > > > > > > > >> also indicate hardwork and busy for me) Will continue my > > > > > > > >> attempt/doubts hope for comments from moderators for same.> > > > > > > >> I am enjoying achieves thanks to Krushna,sanjay, Donna,Peter, Magritta > > > > > > > >> and all very nice considering old time and situation.> > > > > > > >> hope that will helps me to understand and utilize system and finally > > > > > > > >> to absorb root or essence of system so other all system and vedic > > > > > > > >> text can be clarified with same so better results can be obtained > > > > > > > >> related to timing of events.> > > > > > > >> Everybody is trying/pushing here only to help others using there own > > > > > > > >> approach It is really appreciated GOD WILL HELP THEM WHO HELPED OTHERS> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >> *Please find below is thought process/approach:> > > > > > > >> *I am taking acceptance that person is not mentally retired and birth > > > > > > > >> details are correct no rectification required> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >> Quality of 7th house:> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >> * checking Ju in Libra in rashi/navamsa. ...navamsa has that...it> > > > > > > >> is RK,NRK and LoE..seems not good for marriage.> > > > > > > >> * checking Ve nakshatra in rashi...bharni. ..ok> > > > > > > >> * checking Su and Ve distance in rashi...less then 43...ok> > > > > > > >> * checking Ve is with Ra,St or aspect in rashi/navamsa. ....Ve is> > > > > > > >> with St in navamsa....spoils Ve more> > > > > > > >> * checking LoA,LoB,LoC, LoD,LoE in rashi.....Ve, St..Mo,Ju> > > > > > > >> * checking planets with Ra in rashi/navamsa. ..Sa and Ju.....St is> > > > > > > >> LoC and Ju is loE for 7th house and LoA for 5th house.> > > > > > > >> * checking Ra aspects on house in> > > > > > > >> rashi/navamsa. ..9,12,2. .7,9,11.. 12th is HoE,2nd is HoA,9th is> > > > > > > >> karak for HoA and HoC for child..7th is HB,11th is HC> > > > > > > >> * checking Ra aspects on planets in rashi and> > > > > > > >> navamsa...Me, Su......Me 6th lord become more malefic and Su LoB> > > > > > > >> for child case> > > > > > > >> * checking for planets with 6th/12th lord in rashi/navamsa. ....> > > > > > > >> Ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord.....me is with ve in navamsa> > > > > > > >> spoils ve.> > > > > > > >> * checking for aspects on house in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th> > > > > > > >> lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord.....> > > > > > > >> * checking for aspects on planets in rashi/navamsa by 6th/12th> > > > > > > >> lord..... ju is 6th lord and me is 12th lord.....> > > > > > > >> * cheking malefic aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....Ju with 5 points> > > > > > > >> aspects to HoE,Ve with 6 points aspects to HB> > > > > > > >> * cheking benific aspects on ABCDE in rashi.....St with 2 points> > > > > > > >> also LoC aspects to HB,HA and Mo aspects to HB> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >> Blessings,compatibi lity,DBCE, strong house,strong planets:> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >> * as usual to be looked will look another time> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >> Finding significator:> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >> * checking for 2nd lord in rashi......Ve is 2nd lord...Ve antra> > > > > > > >> will bring more pain> > > > > > > >> * looking at 2,7,11 lords...ve and st....ve is with 6 points and> > > > > > > >> st is with 2 points ....left st less points and left ve 2nd lord> > > > > > > >> * looking at 2,7,11 occupents ...me and su...me is with 7 points> > > > > > > >> and su is with 4 points ...left su less points and left me 6th lord> > > > > > > >> * looking at 4,12 occupents... ju and ke(ju/ju)... so ju....ju is> > > > > > > >> with 5 points ....considering ju ...left as in Libra and aspect> > > > > > > >> malefic to HOE> > > > > > > >> * consider Reperesnter for Ra/Ke...Su,Ve/ Ju,Ju.... ..left Ra as> > > > > > > >> alresdy left su and ve,left ke as already left ju> > > > > > > >> * looking at 4,12 lords....Mo, ju....considerin g moon as already> > > > > > > >> left ju....mo may act......... still requires more time for me> > > > > > > >> to finalise> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >> ------------ ------> > > > > > > >> Regards,> > > > > > > >> Devisingh> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >> Ash's Corner@ wrote:> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>> Dear Devisingh ji,> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>> Very nice attempt. Please continue your chain of thought.> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>> Try to find the antra that you think might give marriage. Just go > > > > > > > >>> upto antra.> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>> So first compute the delay and there after start to think over the > > > > > > > >>> best possible period that u think can give the event.> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>> However, do write your thinking process. That will help one figure > > > > > > > >>> out where you are going away or your confusion.> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>> Well Done.> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>> *Cheers !!!*> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>> *Ash -> **http://www.ashtro. ca <http://www.ashtro. ca/>*> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>> ** astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com > > > > > > > >>> [astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com] *On Behalf Of > > > > > > > >>> *devisigh> > > > > > > >>> *Sent:* Thursday November 5, 2009 6:42 AM> > > > > > > >>> *To:* astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> > > > > > > >>> *Subject:* Re: [astrologyandtiming events] Re: Practice Chart> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>> Dear All;> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>> My first attempt using KAS rules/techniques only> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>> 7th house marriage:> > > > > > > >>> selecting Mo main Dasha which is with FK Ve for 7th house> > > > > > > >>> Su and Ju seems significator from ws points for 7th house> > > > > > > >>> other planets aspects 7th house i left them> > > > > > > >>> Su is with Me which is 6th load makes Su samdharmi to 6th lord i > > > > > > > >>> left that> > > > > > > >>> Ju having highest points and also LoE> > > > > > > >>> now considering Ju only as strong significator which in RK and NRK > > > > > > > >>> and natural samdharmi to Mo which is LoD.> > > > > > > >>> Ju does not have sight on A/B/C and is LoE can gives results> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>> Thinking for samdharmi of Ju> > > > > > > >>> in navamsa Ju is with Ra ...makes Ju and Ra samdharmi> > > > > > > >>> Ra can be thought to facilitate results for 7th house matters > > > > > > > >>> .......still this takes time for me to finalize> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>> ------------ ------> > > > > > > >>> Regards,> > > > > > > >>> Devisingh> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>> ashsam73 wrote:> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>> Dear Nikhlesh ji,> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>> You are correct. It was a typo. It was good that I gave the> > > > > > > >>> degree of all planets so this mistake could be checked right in> > > > > > > >>> the begining.> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>> Thanks Nikhlesh ji.> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>> The date should be May 24th.> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>> 24th May 1979> > > > > > > >>> 4:10 AM> > > > > > > >>> 28N40> > > > > > > >>> 77E13> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>> Sorry about that.> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>> Cheers !!!> > > > > > > >>> Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca <http://www.ashtro. ca>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>> astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com> > > > > > > >>> <astrologyan dtimingevents% 40. com>, "nikhlesh> > > > > > > >>> mathur" <nikhleshmathur@ > wrote:> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> > Sub: 24th Feb 1979, 4.10 am, 28.N.40, 77.E.13> > > > > > > >>> > Dear Ash ji,> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> > You said that Su is 9Ta31 for the above native. But a person> > > > > > > >>> born on the month of Feb cannot have his Sun in Taurus sign. It> > > > > > > >>> should be in Aquarius at this time.> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> > If other things are okay then I think the birth date is 24th May.> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> > Please confirm.> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> > Regards,> > > > > > > >>> > Nikhlesh Mathur> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> > On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:47:29 +0530 wrote> > > > > > > >>> > >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> > Add to> > > > > > > >>> > this.> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> > 6) When> > > > > > > >>> > can the native face health problems?> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> > Cheers !!!> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca <http://www.ashtro. ca>> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> > Ash's Corner@ [kas@ ]> > > > > > > >>> > Monday October 26, 2009> > > > > > > >>> > 12:18 AM> > > > > > > >>> > To:> > > > > > > >>> > 'astrologyandtiming events@grou ps.com> > > > > > > >>> <%27astrolog yandtimingevents %40. com>'> > > > > > > >>> > Practice Chart> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> > Dear> > > > > > > >>> > Group,> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> > This> > > > > > > >>> > lady has been posting charts in various lists for many years now.> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> > Here is> > > > > > > >>> > the chart> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> > 24th> > > > > > > >>> > Feb 1979> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> > 4:10 AM> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> > 28N40> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> > 77E13> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> > From> > > > > > > >>> > what I gather, she had an affair or liked some guy that she> > > > > > > >>> wanted to> > > > > > > >>> > marry. I am not clear from her posts> > > > > > > >>> > that if she married the same guy or not.> > > > > > > >>> > Her parents were looking out for some proposals for her.> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> > If this> > > > > > > >>> > chart came blindly to you, can you predict the following.> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> > 1)> > > > > > > >>> > Marriage> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> > 2)> > > > > > > >>> > Child birth> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> > 3)> > > > > > > >>> > Marital Relations overall> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> > 4)> > > > > > > >>> > She has been complaining that relations are bad after marriage and> > > > > > > >>> > asked if she should go for divorce.> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> > 5)> > > > > > > >>> > Why she had affair or what are the yogs for that in this chart.> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> > Planet> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> > Degrees> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> > As> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> > 15 Ar 55> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> > Su> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> > 9 Ta 31> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> > Mo> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> > 13 Ar 48> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> > Ma> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> > 13 Ar 8> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> > Me> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> > 2 Ta 15> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> > Ju> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> > 11 Cn 16> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> > Ve> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> > 14 Ar 30> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> > Sa> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> > 14 Le 35> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> > Ra> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> > 20 Le 59> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> > Ke> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> > 20 Aq 59> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> > Cheers !!!> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca <http://www.ashtro. ca>> > > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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