need advice-current divorce

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Dear Amir,

as i told you i am learner.

so i can only guess looking at antras and the points you getting in

the KAS worksheet.

i told you to wait till apr 2008 as i explained earlier.. the

antra(sub period) of saturn would start in case of your wife(taking

into consideration a hypothetical time of 9:03 which might not be

correct). at this point she would find it a need to get back with you.

right now the time is having low points for marriage so the urge isnt

that strong.

but you decide on your own. as efforts count 50% too.

so keep the priority of getting back with her.

blessing in chart means either father or father like figure/elder or

guru would cause things to happen in positive way.

about attraction i already told you.. about saturn and rahu aspecting

mars.. so this would keep attraction which could lead to attachment.

i dont know whether divorce would take place or not.

or whether both of you would reunite or marry again to a different person.

i know you must be very tense.if you are interested and around NY area

in USA, i would give you address of a person whom you can visit who

gives most of correct predictions without asking for birth time and

doesnt charge. this is KAS forum.. so its inappropriate for me to give

details here.

thanks/regards

harjeet

 

, jay shanders

<phillyanyone wrote:

>

> Namaste

> Dear harjeet,

> thank you so much for taking the time for your feedback as iam so

gratful as i need all the advice and help i can get to help me know

what will honeslty happen as to my current divorce situation.

> why is it important that i wait til april 2008 as i dont have that

much time since we have been separated for past 6 months and in my

state in usa my wife can sign the divorce papers after 6 months so she

can basically sign the papers anytime now she wants as we have a court

date on october 1 so i dont have til april 2008 becase if we do

divorce i dont think there would be any chances of us reuniting after

the divorce as she may not want to or her parents will try to remarry

her off so what do you suggest???

> you have said of blessing in my charts and my wife too- what do

you mean by that??

> ok, can you for once make this clear to me as iam so worried and

scared as i want to know -

> do you think that the divorce will go though- meaning will my wife

sign the divorce papers and divroce us ?? is there divorce occuring

betwwen me and my wife and if so do we both have 2nd marriage??? or no

matter what happen will we stay married ????? what do you honeslty

forsee ??

> can you tell me any future life events for me as to my charts??

> any advice or prediction you can give me will be gratful

> thank you

> amir

>

> harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi wrote:

> , jay shanders

> <phillyanyone@> wrote:

> >

> Dear Amir,

> thanks for your feedback.

> yes at the end of 2003 your antra of jupiter having very low points

> for 7th house and your wife's moon antra which is samdhari to mars her

> 6th lord was going on... and then antra of mars followed.

> after first quarter of 2008.. her antra of saturn would start which is

> having better points than current antra of jupiter and is also lord of

> D would start, which would be favourable i guess.

> besides blessing in your chart and perhaps your wife chart too.

> also saturn and mars of your chart aspects her mars.. i already

> pointed that out to you yesterday.

> so things would hopefully turn out good.

> my suggestion is that keep calm and adjust till april 2008.

> all the best.

> thanks/regards

> harjeet

>

> > Dear fellow members

> > namaste

> > marriage was on june 1 2002, engagement was sept 2000, we started

> having problems in ending of 2003 with ups and down since then, since

> 2004 we have has 5 short separations with my leaving 2 time anc coming

> back and then me leaving 3 times and coming back becase of severe

> fights, as there is nothing serious between us but my inlaws cause

> great stress and unhappiness by constant interfering and control as t

> my wife , currently my wife did not want divorce and she had changed

> her mind as to saving our marriage but her parents want her to go

> through with the divorce even though we hava a 1 year old daughter.

> becase of her parents influence my wife does not want to go against

> them and thus proceed with the divorce. as i have tried vey hard to

> convince my wife but now she says that she is not going to change her

> mind as to the divorce as we dont have much time becase in my state

> divorce can occur after 6 months of separation.

> > we have been separated since march 9 2007.

> > please all member can you tell me as to what i should expect will

> happen- will we stay married and reunite or will my wife go thorugh

> with the divorce and thus us divorced?? if divorce does occor then

> are any chances of reuntiing after since we have a daughter together

> so will my wife remarry ?? my birth date is accurate so what

> about my life events as to marriage and future?? please help me as all

> adive and predictions would be appreciated

> > if anyone needs any more information please let me know, as i need

> all the help i can get to save my marriage.

> > GOD bless

> > amir

> >

> > harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > Dear Ashji/Mishraji,

> >

> > If we take birth time to 9:03.

> > we get libra navamsa here. so again lord of lagna and 9th in navamsa

> > is 5:9 in navamsa.

> >

> > now antra of jupiter starts on 26th jan 2006. taking 13 days

> > difference or may be if the child was born before 9 months.. anyway i

> > think its marginal difference. i call it close call. so conceive and

> > birth both in jupiter antra.

> >

> > regarding marriage problems, it should have started in the antra of

> > mars jan 2005 to jan 2006.

> > and this might have worsen in antra of jupiter which has low points

> > for 7th house.

> >

> > feedback from Amir would be appreciated.

> >

> > thanks/regards

> > harjeet

> >

> > , ramesh mishra

> > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Ash,Anup, Harjeet and all,

> > > Another reason for the doubt in her birth time is the period of

> > separation on 9 Mar 2007.

> > > The native was running through 2nd lord antara of Jup. This period

> > may give worries and strain but separation I could not find in this

> > antara.

> > > The separation took place in second sector of Ju antara.

> > > When you analyse the 2nd house, its karak is Mo who is in house B

> > of 7th.

> > > The Mo is strongly placed in 7th with 6 bindus and in the 10th

> > place from Sa ,LoD for 7th.Therefore aspect of Sa on Mo may not harm

> > the native for 7th house matter.

> > > On the contrary Mo being powerful in 7th, LoA for 2nd may

> > influence the native for separation. Mo will have its malefic aspect

> > on lagna.

> > > So Mo antara may give either separation or divorce. But it is

not so.

> > > Ju is not SD to either Mo or Me or Ve. These antaras are late for

> > the result of 2nd house matter.

> > > I could not understand how Ju separated them. Of course Ju is LoA

> > for 7th and LoB for 2nd. Ju is weak in WS for 2nd and 7th.

> > > So I do not think Ju antara should result in separation for this

> > couple as per her chart.

> > > The timing of child birth on 8 Sep 2006 is in line.She might have

> > conceived in the month of Dec 2005 during Ra-Ma.

> > > But the chart shows delay in conception but she conceived in

> > second sector instead of third sector in Ma antara. Ma is in 9th house

> > > So these are the points where I found birth time of this female

> > native is incorrect.

> > > If I am wrong with my analysis,please correct me.

> > > This detail explanation is for my learning.

> > > With best regards.

> > > Ramesh Mishra

> > >

> > >

> > > harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > > Dear Ashji,

> > > Amir has more points in 7th house compared to lagna.. so his wife

> > > should be considered somewhat stubborn as the points are 29 and not

> > > more than 30.

> > > again my same question : this should be reflected in the lagna of

> > > Amir's wife ? should lagna be more than 28 points ?

> > > so can we judge if time is correct or not from this criteria too ?

> > > thanks/regards

> > > harjeet

> > >

> > > , jay shanders

> > > <phillyanyone@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > NAMASTE

> > > > Dear fellow member,

> > > > thank you so much for taking the time to analyze my and my wifes

> > > charts as i honeslty dont know which birth time 8:30 AM or 9:36

AM is

> > > accurate for my wife but my birth time of 7:15 PM is accurate so

what

> > > would be the over all outcome as to my current divorce

situation- will

> > > the divorce go though and us divorceed with my chancea or reuniting

> > > afterwards ????? any 2nd marriage for either ?? or will the divorce

> > > not happen and us reuntiing and staying married?? i just want to

know

> > > what to really expect as to my current divorce proceedings??

> > > > since my birth time is accurate then all my events in life will

> > > fall into place right?? what can i expect as to my life events as to

> > > now and the future in terms of marriage ??? i would appreciate all

> > > advice possible.

> > > > GOD bless

> > > > amir

> > > >

> > > > " Anup. M " <dalh_1@> wrote:

> > > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > >

> > > > I am gettind Asc 6Sc38.

> > > > Your explaination so nice.

> > > > But Mars can not be SD to Moon in this chart as you mentioned.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Anup

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > Dear Ash, Anup, Harjeet and all,

> > > > The reasons for questioning the authenticity in the birth time in

> > > respect of his spouse are followings.

> > > > 1.His wife married on 1 Jun 2002 during Ra / Ve. Undoubtedly Ve is

> > > the strongest significator for 7th house but there is also combined

> > > delay caused by Sa and Ju both.

> > > > This delay is overcome on 29 Aug 2004 during Ra/ Mo.

> > > > As per the given time marriage could have taken place in Ma antara

> > > who is SD to Mo.

> > > > Ma is also 6th lord.

> > > > 2. This chart indicates harmony in married life because 7th from

> > > lagna, Su and Mo all are in 3:11 ratio.

> > > > 3.There is no blessings in the chart.

> > > > 4. Both the luminaries are aspected by Sa.

> > > > 5. Ve is under the affliction of Ra/Ke

> > > > 6.Ma as 6th lord is in karak sthaan of 2nd and Mo the karka lord

> > > of 2nd is in house B for 7th. The same Mo and Ma are in 4:10

> > > relationship in navamsa.

> > > > This may indicate the separation and then divorce.

> > > > But this factor is absent in her hussband chart.

> > > > 7. 7th lord Ve is in dual sign indicating the second marriage.

> > > This is not present in her husband chart.

> > > > I thought these may be the reason which does not tally with her

> > > husband chart.

> > > > This may be due to wrong birth time.

> > > > When you change the time as 9:36 AM then also nothing changes

> > > except navamsa.

> > > > You may correct me if I am wrong anywhere.

> > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > >

> > > > Ash <kas@> wrote:

> > > > Here if you cast the chart of the natives wife with the

> > > given time of 8:30 am, marriage happens in the highest power

planet of

> > > Venus, and yet Ramesh and I both questioned the time of birth.

> > > > And it turns out that the birth certificate time is of 9:32 AM

> > > which is more than 1 hour difference. Even still the birth time

might

> > > be wrong.

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > On Behalf Of Ash

> > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 10:38 PM

> > > >

> > > > RE: Re: need advice-current

> > divorce

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Harjeet and All,

> > > > Here the native has blessing if this chart is accurate. Most of

> > > the points are less in 7th house so results are showing.

> > > > Now, 6th lord is Saturn and its with 3 bindus in 10th house. So

> > > from there he aspects 7th i.e LoB, House E, House D, LoA and LoC in

> > > Navamsa. So here results are more severe.

> > > > Here for Quality, remove -5 points from 12th, 7th and 4th and

> > > from Mercury and sun as well for quality i.e. 5 points more to

offset

> > > bad effects of 6th lord.

> > > > So only Moon is good for timing and quality.

> > > > From lagna, sun, mo, ve and Ma all are in 4:10, 2:12, 4:10, 3:11

> > > and 2:12.

> > > > Lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 in navamsa.

> > > >

> > > > As you have said, there is full delay of Sa for 27 years and then

> > > of Ju after that. So marriage can happen in Rahu who is SD to 6th

> > > lord and 7th lord Sa and Mo.

> > > > After marriage, antra running have been of Ju who has less power

> > > in 7th, and then after that Mercury who is 2nd lord and less

power in

> > > 7th house.

> > > > Child birth in Sa antra who is SD to Ve the strongest significator

> > > for 5th house and Sa is NSD to Ve.

> > > > Now the native is running Ketu antra and Ketu is in House E for

> > > 7th as B and SD to Mo so again strong feelings are there and at the

> > > same time its SD to Sa as well so again it can't give full

happiness.

> > > > After that again the antras are not strong for 7th house, sun has

> > > 12 points but again its aspected by Sa so quality is still poor.

> > > >

> > > > My suggestion in this case would be to try to reconcile with his

> > > wife and to use the power of blessing. Try to let bygones be bygones

> > > and start afresh for the child.

> > > > The native will have to do a lot of adjustment.

> > > > Otherwise it's very difficult.

> > > >

> > > > On another note, just recently I gave the discussion that

> > > Krushnaji gave on accepting time as given. Here this gentleman's

> > > wife's chart is a prime candidate on how data can be wrong and using

> > > KAS it can be pointed out. Ramesh also pointed out the improper time

> > > of his wife and so did I.

> > > > Actually this is based on concrete calculations and just accepting

> > > the time given as correct is not always proper. Unless one takes

> > > proper effort to tally events and makes sure that things are fitting

> > > right or even in the ball park.

> > > > I will leave it to Ramesh to show and demonstrate the reason on

> > > why he questioned the authenticity of birth time.

> > > > Sometimes, people also change the dates and that I have personally

> > > experienced. In any case, one thing is clear, that if the birth time

> > > is accurate then all the events of life will fall in place.

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > On Behalf Of

harjeet

> > > bakshi

> > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 9:07 PM

> > > >

> > > > Re: need advice-current

divorce

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Amir,

> > > > i am just learning KAS...

> > > >

> > > > taking marriage 5 years ago.. might have happened in the antra

> of rahu

> > > > samdhari to saturn lord of 6th and is situated in 6th house.

> > > > now antra of ketu samdhari to moon which is having highest

point for

> > > > 7th house and situated in D... so chances of marriage to break(i

> dont

> > > > wish so.. but thats the law given in lesson).. but again rahu is

> also

> > > > samdhari to moon which has highest points for 7th house.

> > > > Ashji please guide on this one..

> > > > i think the result of marriage is spoiled because rahu being

> samdhari

> > > > to 6th lord saturn gave marriage.

> > > > also 6th lord saturn has sight on B,D and E so marriage is bad...

> > > > result might be felt specially in the antra of saturn... 2004

sep to

> > > > 2006 apr.

> > > > also during this antra gave bad results for house 4th and 7th

aswell

> > > > as 6th being in less points and 4th from sun and mercury.

> > > > venus is in dual sign in both rasi(also aspecting 2nd house

with -5

> > > > points) and navamsa.. chances of 2 marriages.

> > > > sun in 7th house.

> > > > moon aspected by ketu in navamsa and with mars in rasi.. might

cause

> > > > you to take hasty steps.

> > > > cant go more as out of time..

> > > > try to put efforts to pursue your goal. one point irrespective of

> > > > birth time in your wife's chart is that your rahu and saturn

aspects

> > > > her mars based on sign overlapping. so there would be strong

> > > > attraction between the couple... this might be the positive

factor.

> > > > thanks/regards

> > > > harjeet

> > > >

> > > > , jay shanders

> > > > <phillyanyone@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Mr. ramesh

> > > > > how are you?/

> > > > > thank you so much for your reply

> > > > > as i am always gratful for all your help and i dont mean to give

> > > > you a hard time its just i depend on you so much for advice and

> > > > prediction as to my current divorce proceeding

> > > > > my wife has told me her birth time is 8:30 AM but i have a

copy of

> > > > her indian birth certificate and on there it has 9:36 AM so i

> honestly

> > > > dont know which one is for real as i cant even ask her right

> now. can

> > > > you use both and see what results you get. as using the 8:30

AM you

> > > > have said that there is no divorce now or future, does that still

> > > > hold. i just want to know that even though iam going through the

> > > > divorce proceeding should i really worry as will it go through

> and us

> > > > divorce or will it Not happen and we stay married. my birth

time is

> > > > accurate so do i have divorce and 2nd marriage in my chart ???? i

> > > > just want to know over all if me and my wife will have a long

> lasting

> > > > marriage ??

> > > > >

> > > > > please help me in any way possible as you are helping a person

> > > > save his marriage and thus i have a daughter that i worry so much

> > > > about. any further information as to my chart will be

appreciated??

> > > > > thank you

> > > > > amir

> > > > >

> > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Amir,

> > > > > Please read my all mails sincerely.You will find all

> > > > > your answers.

> > > > > I had asked you before also the correctness of

> > > > > birthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked you same

> > > > > data.

> > > > > Unless the birthtime is authenticated, all efforts

> > > > > will be useless.

> > > > > This I have already pointed you out.I think now you

> > > > > understand it.

> > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > >

> > > > > --- jay shanders <phillyanyone@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > > > > namaste

> > > > > > iam not confused as you have told me in last email

> > > > > > that there is No divorce nor or future.

> > > > > > iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for

> > > > > > consults and you have beening gicing me

> > > > > > predictions. so are you now saying that we will

> > > > > > divorce now with likely chances of reunion in feb???

> > > > > > so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce occur

> > > > > > there will not be any chances of reunion since i

> > > > > > cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would she

> > > > > > reunite with me after it ??

> > > > > > thank you

> > > > > > amir

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Amir,

> > > > > > Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in

> > > > > > the month of Feb/2008.

> > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > >

> > > > > > phillyanyone <phillyanyone@> wrote:

> > > > > > NAMASTE

> > > > > > Dear Guruji

> > > > > > Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated from my

> > > > > > wife and daughter

> > > > > > since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce

> > > > > > proceeding status.

> > > > > > because of many problems between my wife and her

> > > > > > controling parents

> > > > > > who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for

> > > > > > divorce becase of

> > > > > > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of

> > > > > > weeks going by, i

> > > > > > wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our

> > > > > > marriage and she too

> > > > > > wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now

> > > > > > her parents are

> > > > > > totally against her coming back and saving our

> > > > > > marriage. my wife does

> > > > > > not want to go aginst her parents and come back to

> > > > > > me so she says

> > > > > > thats it better to divorce and not work anything

> > > > > > else. i have tried

> > > > > > hard to convince her but nothing. we have been

> > > > > > married for 5 years,

> > > > > > on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on september

> > > > > > 8, 2006. i have

> > > > > > been told by many astrologer that neither have

> > > > > > divorce or 2nd

> > > > > > marriage so why iam I current in divorce status and

> > > > > > will my marriage

> > > > > > survive this current divorce status and me and my

> > > > > > wfie getting back

> > > > > > together. please advice as i need all the advice and

> > > > > > help i can get

> > > > > > to save my marriage and input as to what wil happen

> > > > > > as to my marriage-

> > > > > > divorce or us reuniting????

> > > > > > thank you

> > > > > > God bless

> > > > > > amir

> > > > > >

> > > > > > amir patel

> > > > > > biodata-

> > > > > > february 19, 1972, 7:15 PM, ahmadabad, india

> > > > > >

> > > > > > bijal patel

> > > > > > biodata

> > > > > > october 30, 1977, 8:30 AM, ahmadabad, india

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Namaste Dear harjeet i totally understand that you are a learner and the help and advice you have given me thus far is so greatly appreciated, as iam always gratful for any help i can get as to my problem. yes iam so worried and tense becase of my marriage thus i love my wife and dont want to lose her but she is brainwashed and blinded as to her decision about proceeding divorce as to her aprents wishes, her parents are runing 3 people lives and mostly my daughter who will lose both parents together and i dont want that to happen to my daughter as she needs a family with both parents together. i dont know what to do at this point as i have tried very hard to convince my wife as to changing her decision but she dont want to listen to me anymore and thus has stopped all contact with me. i have been doing mantras and praying so hard but i dont know what will happen thats why i needed someone who can really give me correct prediciton as to

what will happen. please give me the address and phone number of the person in Ny who can give me correct prediction as i will contact him for help. is there any other prediction you can give me as to my future events?? thank you amirharjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi wrote: Dear Amir,as i told you i am learner.so i can only guess looking at antras and the points you getting inthe KAS worksheet.i told you to wait till apr 2008 as i explained earlier.. theantra(sub

period) of saturn would start in case of your wife(takinginto consideration a hypothetical time of 9:03 which might not becorrect). at this point she would find it a need to get back with you.right now the time is having low points for marriage so the urge isntthat strong.but you decide on your own. as efforts count 50% too.so keep the priority of getting back with her.blessing in chart means either father or father like figure/elder orguru would cause things to happen in positive way.about attraction i already told you.. about saturn and rahu aspectingmars.. so this would keep attraction which could lead to attachment.i dont know whether divorce would take place or not. or whether both of you would reunite or marry again to a different person.i know you must be very tense.if you are interested and around NY areain USA, i would give you address of a person whom you can visit whogives most of correct predictions

without asking for birth time anddoesnt charge. this is KAS forum.. so its inappropriate for me to givedetails here.thanks/regardsharjeet , jay shanders<phillyanyone wrote:>> Namaste> Dear harjeet,> thank you so much for taking the time for your feedback as iam sogratful as i need all the advice and help i can get to help me knowwhat will honeslty happen as to my current divorce situation.> why is it important that i wait til april 2008 as i dont have thatmuch time since we have been separated for past 6 months and in mystate in usa my wife can sign the divorce papers after 6 months so shecan basically sign the papers anytime now she wants as we have a courtdate on october 1 so i dont have til april 2008 becase if we do divorce i dont think there

would be any chances of us reuniting afterthe divorce as she may not want to or her parents will try to remarryher off so what do you suggest???> you have said of blessing in my charts and my wife too- what doyou mean by that??> ok, can you for once make this clear to me as iam so worried andscared as i want to know -> do you think that the divorce will go though- meaning will my wifesign the divorce papers and divroce us ?? is there divorce occuring betwwen me and my wife and if so do we both have 2nd marriage??? or nomatter what happen will we stay married ????? what do you honesltyforsee ??> can you tell me any future life events for me as to my charts??> any advice or prediction you can give me will be gratful> thank you> amir> > harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi wrote:> , jay shanders> <phillyanyone@> wrote:> >> Dear Amir,> thanks for your feedback.> yes at the end of 2003 your antra of jupiter having very low points> for 7th house and your wife's moon antra which is samdhari to mars her> 6th lord was going on... and then antra of mars followed.> after first quarter of 2008.. her antra of saturn would start which is> having better points than current antra of jupiter and is also lord of> D would start, which would be favourable i guess.> besides blessing in your chart and perhaps your wife chart too.> also saturn and mars of your chart aspects her mars.. i already> pointed that out to you yesterday.> so things would hopefully turn out good.> my suggestion is that keep calm and adjust till april 2008.> all

the best.> thanks/regards> harjeet> > > Dear fellow members> > namaste> > marriage was on june 1 2002, engagement was sept 2000, we started> having problems in ending of 2003 with ups and down since then, since> 2004 we have has 5 short separations with my leaving 2 time anc coming> back and then me leaving 3 times and coming back becase of severe> fights, as there is nothing serious between us but my inlaws cause> great stress and unhappiness by constant interfering and control as t> my wife , currently my wife did not want divorce and she had changed> her mind as to saving our marriage but her parents want her to go> through with the divorce even though we hava a 1 year old daughter.> becase of her parents influence my wife does not want to go against> them and thus proceed with the divorce. as i have tried vey hard to> convince my wife but now

she says that she is not going to change her> mind as to the divorce as we dont have much time becase in my state> divorce can occur after 6 months of separation.> > we have been separated since march 9 2007. > > please all member can you tell me as to what i should expect will> happen- will we stay married and reunite or will my wife go thorugh> with the divorce and thus us divorced?? if divorce does occor then> are any chances of reuntiing after since we have a daughter together> so will my wife remarry ?? my birth date is accurate so what> about my life events as to marriage and future?? please help me as all> adive and predictions would be appreciated> > if anyone needs any more information please let me know, as i need> all the help i can get to save my marriage.> > GOD bless> > amir> > > > harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi@>

wrote:> > Dear Ashji/Mishraji,> > > > If we take birth time to 9:03. > > we get libra navamsa here. so again lord of lagna and 9th in navamsa> > is 5:9 in navamsa.> > > > now antra of jupiter starts on 26th jan 2006. taking 13 days> > difference or may be if the child was born before 9 months.. anyway i> > think its marginal difference. i call it close call. so conceive and> > birth both in jupiter antra.> > > > regarding marriage problems, it should have started in the antra of> > mars jan 2005 to jan 2006.> > and this might have worsen in antra of jupiter which has low points> > for 7th house.> > > > feedback from Amir would be appreciated.> > > > thanks/regards> > harjeet> > > > , ramesh mishra> > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Ash,Anup, Harjeet and all,> > > Another reason for the doubt in her birth time is the period of> > separation on 9 Mar 2007.> > > The native was running through 2nd lord antara of Jup. This period> > may give worries and strain but separation I could not find in this> > antara.> > > The separation took place in second sector of Ju antara.> > > When you analyse the 2nd house, its karak is Mo who is in house B> > of 7th.> > > The Mo is strongly placed in 7th with 6 bindus and in the 10th> > place from Sa ,LoD for 7th.Therefore aspect of Sa on Mo may not harm> > the native for 7th house matter.> > > On the contrary Mo being

powerful in 7th, LoA for 2nd may> > influence the native for separation. Mo will have its malefic aspect> > on lagna.> > > So Mo antara may give either separation or divorce. But it isnot so.> > > Ju is not SD to either Mo or Me or Ve. These antaras are late for> > the result of 2nd house matter.> > > I could not understand how Ju separated them. Of course Ju is LoA> > for 7th and LoB for 2nd. Ju is weak in WS for 2nd and 7th.> > > So I do not think Ju antara should result in separation for this> > couple as per her chart.> > > The timing of child birth on 8 Sep 2006 is in line.She might have> > conceived in the month of Dec 2005 during Ra-Ma.> > > But the chart shows delay in conception but she conceived in> > second sector instead of third sector in Ma antara. Ma is in 9th house> > > So these are the points

where I found birth time of this female> > native is incorrect.> > > If I am wrong with my analysis,please correct me.> > > This detail explanation is for my learning.> > > With best regards.> > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > > > > > harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:> > > Dear Ashji,> > > Amir has more points in 7th house compared to lagna.. so his wife> > > should be considered somewhat stubborn as the points are 29 and not> > > more than 30.> > > again my same question : this should be reflected in the lagna of> > > Amir's wife ? should lagna be more than 28 points ?> > > so can we judge if time is correct or not from this criteria too ?> > > thanks/regards> > > harjeet> > > > > > , jay shanders> > > <phillyanyone@> wrote:> > > >> > > > NAMASTE> > > > Dear fellow member,> > > > thank you so much for taking the time to analyze my and my wifes> > > charts as i honeslty dont know which birth time 8:30 AM or 9:36AM is> > > accurate for my wife but my birth time of 7:15 PM is accurate sowhat> > > would be the over all outcome as to my current divorcesituation- will> > > the divorce go though and us divorceed with my chancea or reuniting> > > afterwards ????? any 2nd marriage for either ?? or will the divorce> > > not happen and us reuntiing and staying married?? i just want toknow> > > what to really expect as to my current divorce

proceedings??> > > > since my birth time is accurate then all my events in life will> > > fall into place right?? what can i expect as to my life events as to> > > now and the future in terms of marriage ??? i would appreciate all> > > advice possible.> > > > GOD bless> > > > amir> > > > > > > > "Anup. M" <dalh_1@> wrote:> > > > Dear Ramesh,> > > > > > > > I am gettind Asc 6Sc38.> > > > Your explaination so nice.> > > > But Mars can not be SD to Moon in this chart as you mentioned.> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > Anup> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:> > > > Dear Ash,

Anup, Harjeet and all,> > > > The reasons for questioning the authenticity in the birth time in> > > respect of his spouse are followings.> > > > 1.His wife married on 1 Jun 2002 during Ra / Ve. Undoubtedly Ve is> > > the strongest significator for 7th house but there is also combined> > > delay caused by Sa and Ju both.> > > > This delay is overcome on 29 Aug 2004 during Ra/ Mo.> > > > As per the given time marriage could have taken place in Ma antara> > > who is SD to Mo.> > > > Ma is also 6th lord.> > > > 2. This chart indicates harmony in married life because 7th from> > > lagna, Su and Mo all are in 3:11 ratio.> > > > 3.There is no blessings in the chart.> > > > 4. Both the luminaries are aspected by Sa.> > > > 5. Ve is under the affliction of Ra/Ke > >

> > 6.Ma as 6th lord is in karak sthaan of 2nd and Mo the karka lord> > > of 2nd is in house B for 7th. The same Mo and Ma are in 4:10> > > relationship in navamsa.> > > > This may indicate the separation and then divorce.> > > > But this factor is absent in her hussband chart.> > > > 7. 7th lord Ve is in dual sign indicating the second marriage.> > > This is not present in her husband chart.> > > > I thought these may be the reason which does not tally with her> > > husband chart.> > > > This may be due to wrong birth time.> > > > When you change the time as 9:36 AM then also nothing changes> > > except navamsa.> > > > You may correct me if I am wrong anywhere.> > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > > > > Ash

<kas@> wrote:> > > > Here if you cast the chart of the natives wife with the> > > given time of 8:30 am, marriage happens in the highest powerplanet of> > > Venus, and yet Ramesh and I both questioned the time of birth.> > > > And it turns out that the birth certificate time is of 9:32 AM> > > which is more than 1 hour difference. Even still the birth timemight> > > be wrong.> > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Ash> > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 10:38 PM> > > > > > > > RE: Re: need advice-current> > divorce> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet and All, > > > > Here the native has blessing if this chart is accurate. Most of> > > the points are less in 7th house so results are showing.> > > > Now, 6th lord is Saturn and its with 3 bindus in 10th house. So> > > from there he aspects 7th i.e LoB, House E, House D, LoA and LoC in> > > Navamsa. So here results are more severe. > > > > Here for Quality, remove

-5 points from 12th, 7th and 4th and> > > from Mercury and sun as well for quality i.e. 5 points more tooffset> > > bad effects of 6th lord. > > > > So only Moon is good for timing and quality. > > > > From lagna, sun, mo, ve and Ma all are in 4:10, 2:12, 4:10, 3:11> > > and 2:12. > > > > Lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 in navamsa. > > > > > > > > As you have said, there is full delay of Sa for 27 years and then> > > of Ju after that. So marriage can happen in Rahu who is SD to 6th> > > lord and 7th lord Sa and Mo. > > > > After marriage, antra running have been of Ju who has less power> > > in 7th, and then after that Mercury who is 2nd lord and lesspower in> > > 7th house. > > > > Child birth in Sa antra who is SD to Ve the strongest significator> > >

for 5th house and Sa is NSD to Ve.> > > > Now the native is running Ketu antra and Ketu is in House E for> > > 7th as B and SD to Mo so again strong feelings are there and at the> > > same time its SD to Sa as well so again it can't give fullhappiness.> > > > After that again the antras are not strong for 7th house, sun has> > > 12 points but again its aspected by Sa so quality is still poor. > > > > > > > > My suggestion in this case would be to try to reconcile with his> > > wife and to use the power of blessing. Try to let bygones be bygones> > > and start afresh for the child.> > > > The native will have to do a lot of adjustment.> > > > Otherwise it's very difficult.> > > > > > > > On another note, just recently I gave the discussion that> > > Krushnaji gave on

accepting time as given. Here this gentleman's> > > wife's chart is a prime candidate on how data can be wrong and using> > > KAS it can be pointed out. Ramesh also pointed out the improper time> > > of his wife and so did I. > > > > Actually this is based on concrete calculations and just accepting> > > the time given as correct is not always proper. Unless one takes> > > proper effort to tally events and makes sure that things are fitting> > > right or even in the ball park.> > > > I will leave it to Ramesh to show and demonstrate the reason on> > > why he questioned the authenticity of birth time.> > > > Sometimes, people also change the dates and that I have personally> > > experienced. In any case, one thing is clear, that if the birth time> > > is accurate then all the events of life will fall in place.

> > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Ofharjeet> > > bakshi> > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 9:07 PM> > > > > > > > Re: need advice-currentdivorce> > > > > > > >

> > > > Dear Amir,> > > > i am just learning KAS...> > > > > > > > taking marriage 5 years ago.. might have happened in the antra> of rahu> > > > samdhari to saturn lord of 6th and is situated in 6th house.> > > > now antra of ketu samdhari to moon which is having highestpoint for> > > > 7th house and situated in D... so chances of marriage to break(i> dont> > > > wish so.. but thats the law given in lesson).. but again rahu is> also> > > > samdhari to moon which has highest points for 7th house.> > > > Ashji please guide on this one..> > > > i think the result of marriage is spoiled because rahu being> samdhari> > > > to 6th lord saturn gave marriage.> > > > also 6th lord saturn has sight on B,D and E so marriage is bad...> >

> > result might be felt specially in the antra of saturn... 2004sep to> > > > 2006 apr.> > > > also during this antra gave bad results for house 4th and 7thaswell> > > > as 6th being in less points and 4th from sun and mercury.> > > > venus is in dual sign in both rasi(also aspecting 2nd housewith -5> > > > points) and navamsa.. chances of 2 marriages.> > > > sun in 7th house.> > > > moon aspected by ketu in navamsa and with mars in rasi.. mightcause> > > > you to take hasty steps.> > > > cant go more as out of time..> > > > try to put efforts to pursue your goal. one point irrespective of> > > > birth time in your wife's chart is that your rahu and saturnaspects> > > > her mars based on sign overlapping. so there would be strong> > > >

attraction between the couple... this might be the positivefactor.> > > > thanks/regards> > > > harjeet> > > > > > > > , jay shanders> > > > <phillyanyone@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Mr. ramesh> > > > > how are you?/> > > > > thank you so much for your reply> > > > > as i am always gratful for all your help and i dont mean to give> > > > you a hard time its just i depend on you so much for advice and> > > > prediction as to my current divorce proceeding> > > > > my wife has told me her birth time is 8:30 AM but i have acopy of> > > > her indian birth certificate and on there it has 9:36 AM so

i> honestly> > > > dont know which one is for real as i cant even ask her right> now. can> > > > you use both and see what results you get. as using the 8:30AM you> > > > have said that there is no divorce now or future, does that still> > > > hold. i just want to know that even though iam going through the> > > > divorce proceeding should i really worry as will it go through> and us> > > > divorce or will it Not happen and we stay married. my birthtime is> > > > accurate so do i have divorce and 2nd marriage in my chart ???? i> > > > just want to know over all if me and my wife will have a long> lasting> > > > marriage ??> > > > > > > > > > please help me in any way possible as you are helping a person> > > > save his marriage and thus i have

a daughter that i worry so much> > > > about. any further information as to my chart will beappreciated??> > > > > thank you> > > > > amir> > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:> > > > > Dear Amir,> > > > > Please read my all mails sincerely.You will find all> > > > > your answers.> > > > > I had asked you before also the correctness of> > > > > birthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked you same> > > > > data.> > > > > Unless the birthtime is authenticated, all efforts> > > > > will be useless.> > > > > This I have already pointed you out.I think now you> > > > > understand it.> > > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > >

> > > > > --- jay shanders <phillyanyone@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh,> > > > > > namaste> > > > > > iam not confused as you have told me in last email> > > > > > that there is No divorce nor or future.> > > > > > iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for> > > > > > consults and you have beening gicing me > > > > > > predictions. so are you now saying that we will> > > > > > divorce now with likely chances of reunion in feb???> > > > > > so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce occur> > > > > > there will not be any chances of reunion since i> > > > > > cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would she> > > > > > reunite with me after it

??> > > > > > thank you> > > > > > amir> > > > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:> > > > > > Dear Amir,> > > > > > Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in> > > > > > the month of Feb/2008.> > > > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > > > > > > > > phillyanyone <phillyanyone@> wrote:> > > > > > NAMASTE> > > > > > Dear Guruji> > > > > > Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated from my> > > > > > wife and daughter > > > > > > since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce> > > > > > proceeding status. > > > > > >

because of many problems between my wife and her> > > > > > controling parents > > > > > > who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for> > > > > > divorce becase of > > > > > > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of> > > > > > weeks going by, i > > > > > > wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our> > > > > > marriage and she too > > > > > > wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now> > > > > > her parents are > > > > > > totally against her coming back and saving our> > > > > > marriage. my wife does > > > > > > not want to go aginst her parents and come back to> > > > > > me so she says > > > > > > thats it better to divorce and not work

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Dear Harjeet, since you said that blessing in both charts mean father, elder or guru would case things to move in a postivie way but there is no such person to help my wife get back to me becase she wont listen to my dad or my grandparents as they have tried to talk to my father in law about getting us back together but he said No and hanged up, and my wife's father dont want my wife to coem back to me but divorce me so no one to help us come back together. thank you amirharjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi wrote: Dear Amir,as i told you i am learner.so i can only guess looking at antras and the points you getting inthe KAS worksheet.i told you to wait till apr 2008 as i explained earlier.. theantra(sub period) of saturn would start in case of your wife(takinginto consideration a hypothetical time of 9:03 which might not becorrect). at this point she would find it a need to get back with you.right now the time is having low points for marriage so the urge isntthat strong.but you decide on your own. as efforts count 50% too.so keep the priority of getting back with her.blessing in chart means either father or father like figure/elder orguru would cause things to happen in positive way.about attraction i already told you.. about saturn and rahu aspectingmars.. so this would keep attraction which could lead to attachment.i dont know whether divorce would take place or not. or whether both of you

would reunite or marry again to a different person.i know you must be very tense.if you are interested and around NY areain USA, i would give you address of a person whom you can visit whogives most of correct predictions without asking for birth time anddoesnt charge. this is KAS forum.. so its inappropriate for me to givedetails here.thanks/regardsharjeet , jay shanders<phillyanyone wrote:>> Namaste> Dear harjeet,> thank you so much for taking the time for your feedback as iam sogratful as i need all the advice and help i can get to help me knowwhat will honeslty happen as to my current divorce situation.> why is it important that i wait til april 2008 as i dont have thatmuch time since we have been separated for past 6 months and in mystate in usa

my wife can sign the divorce papers after 6 months so shecan basically sign the papers anytime now she wants as we have a courtdate on october 1 so i dont have til april 2008 becase if we do divorce i dont think there would be any chances of us reuniting afterthe divorce as she may not want to or her parents will try to remarryher off so what do you suggest???> you have said of blessing in my charts and my wife too- what doyou mean by that??> ok, can you for once make this clear to me as iam so worried andscared as i want to know -> do you think that the divorce will go though- meaning will my wifesign the divorce papers and divroce us ?? is there divorce occuring betwwen me and my wife and if so do we both have 2nd marriage??? or nomatter what happen will we stay married ????? what do you honesltyforsee ??> can you tell me any future life events for me as to my charts??> any advice or

prediction you can give me will be gratful> thank you> amir> > harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi wrote:> , jay shanders> <phillyanyone@> wrote:> >> Dear Amir,> thanks for your feedback.> yes at the end of 2003 your antra of jupiter having very low points> for 7th house and your wife's moon antra which is samdhari to mars her> 6th lord was going on... and then antra of mars followed.> after first quarter of 2008.. her antra of saturn would start which is> having better points than current antra of jupiter and is also lord of> D would start, which would be favourable i guess.> besides blessing in your chart and perhaps your wife chart too.> also saturn and mars of your chart aspects her mars.. i already>

pointed that out to you yesterday.> so things would hopefully turn out good.> my suggestion is that keep calm and adjust till april 2008.> all the best.> thanks/regards> harjeet> > > Dear fellow members> > namaste> > marriage was on june 1 2002, engagement was sept 2000, we started> having problems in ending of 2003 with ups and down since then, since> 2004 we have has 5 short separations with my leaving 2 time anc coming> back and then me leaving 3 times and coming back becase of severe> fights, as there is nothing serious between us but my inlaws cause> great stress and unhappiness by constant interfering and control as t> my wife , currently my wife did not want divorce and she had changed> her mind as to saving our marriage but her parents want her to go> through with the divorce even though we hava a 1 year old daughter.> becase of her

parents influence my wife does not want to go against> them and thus proceed with the divorce. as i have tried vey hard to> convince my wife but now she says that she is not going to change her> mind as to the divorce as we dont have much time becase in my state> divorce can occur after 6 months of separation.> > we have been separated since march 9 2007. > > please all member can you tell me as to what i should expect will> happen- will we stay married and reunite or will my wife go thorugh> with the divorce and thus us divorced?? if divorce does occor then> are any chances of reuntiing after since we have a daughter together> so will my wife remarry ?? my birth date is accurate so what> about my life events as to marriage and future?? please help me as all> adive and predictions would be appreciated> > if anyone needs any more information please let me know, as i

need> all the help i can get to save my marriage.> > GOD bless> > amir> > > > harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:> > Dear Ashji/Mishraji,> > > > If we take birth time to 9:03. > > we get libra navamsa here. so again lord of lagna and 9th in navamsa> > is 5:9 in navamsa.> > > > now antra of jupiter starts on 26th jan 2006. taking 13 days> > difference or may be if the child was born before 9 months.. anyway i> > think its marginal difference. i call it close call. so conceive and> > birth both in jupiter antra.> > > > regarding marriage problems, it should have started in the antra of> > mars jan 2005 to jan 2006.> > and this might have worsen in antra of jupiter which has low points> > for 7th house.> > > > feedback from Amir would be

appreciated.> > > > thanks/regards> > harjeet> > > > , ramesh mishra> > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Ash,Anup, Harjeet and all,> > > Another reason for the doubt in her birth time is the period of> > separation on 9 Mar 2007.> > > The native was running through 2nd lord antara of Jup. This period> > may give worries and strain but separation I could not find in this> > antara.> > > The separation took place in second sector of Ju antara.> > > When you analyse the 2nd house, its karak is Mo who is in house B> > of 7th.> > > The Mo is strongly placed in 7th with 6 bindus and in the 10th> > place from Sa ,LoD for 7th.Therefore aspect of

Sa on Mo may not harm> > the native for 7th house matter.> > > On the contrary Mo being powerful in 7th, LoA for 2nd may> > influence the native for separation. Mo will have its malefic aspect> > on lagna.> > > So Mo antara may give either separation or divorce. But it isnot so.> > > Ju is not SD to either Mo or Me or Ve. These antaras are late for> > the result of 2nd house matter.> > > I could not understand how Ju separated them. Of course Ju is LoA> > for 7th and LoB for 2nd. Ju is weak in WS for 2nd and 7th.> > > So I do not think Ju antara should result in separation for this> > couple as per her chart.> > > The timing of child birth on 8 Sep 2006 is in line.She might have> > conceived in the month of Dec 2005 during Ra-Ma.> > > But the chart shows delay in conception but she conceived in> >

second sector instead of third sector in Ma antara. Ma is in 9th house> > > So these are the points where I found birth time of this female> > native is incorrect.> > > If I am wrong with my analysis,please correct me.> > > This detail explanation is for my learning.> > > With best regards.> > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > > > > > harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:> > > Dear Ashji,> > > Amir has more points in 7th house compared to lagna.. so his wife> > > should be considered somewhat stubborn as the points are 29 and not> > > more than 30.> > > again my same question : this should be reflected in the lagna of> > > Amir's wife ? should lagna be more than 28 points ?> > > so can we judge if time is correct or not from this criteria too ?> > >

thanks/regards> > > harjeet> > > > > > , jay shanders> > > <phillyanyone@> wrote:> > > >> > > > NAMASTE> > > > Dear fellow member,> > > > thank you so much for taking the time to analyze my and my wifes> > > charts as i honeslty dont know which birth time 8:30 AM or 9:36AM is> > > accurate for my wife but my birth time of 7:15 PM is accurate sowhat> > > would be the over all outcome as to my current divorcesituation- will> > > the divorce go though and us divorceed with my chancea or reuniting> > > afterwards ????? any 2nd marriage for either ?? or will the divorce> > > not happen and us reuntiing and staying married?? i just want

toknow> > > what to really expect as to my current divorce proceedings??> > > > since my birth time is accurate then all my events in life will> > > fall into place right?? what can i expect as to my life events as to> > > now and the future in terms of marriage ??? i would appreciate all> > > advice possible.> > > > GOD bless> > > > amir> > > > > > > > "Anup. M" <dalh_1@> wrote:> > > > Dear Ramesh,> > > > > > > > I am gettind Asc 6Sc38.> > > > Your explaination so nice.> > > > But Mars can not be SD to Moon in this chart as you mentioned.> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > Anup> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ramesh

mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:> > > > Dear Ash, Anup, Harjeet and all,> > > > The reasons for questioning the authenticity in the birth time in> > > respect of his spouse are followings.> > > > 1.His wife married on 1 Jun 2002 during Ra / Ve. Undoubtedly Ve is> > > the strongest significator for 7th house but there is also combined> > > delay caused by Sa and Ju both.> > > > This delay is overcome on 29 Aug 2004 during Ra/ Mo.> > > > As per the given time marriage could have taken place in Ma antara> > > who is SD to Mo.> > > > Ma is also 6th lord.> > > > 2. This chart indicates harmony in married life because 7th from> > > lagna, Su and Mo all are in 3:11 ratio.> > > > 3.There is no blessings in the chart.> > > > 4. Both the luminaries are aspected by

Sa.> > > > 5. Ve is under the affliction of Ra/Ke > > > > 6.Ma as 6th lord is in karak sthaan of 2nd and Mo the karka lord> > > of 2nd is in house B for 7th. The same Mo and Ma are in 4:10> > > relationship in navamsa.> > > > This may indicate the separation and then divorce.> > > > But this factor is absent in her hussband chart.> > > > 7. 7th lord Ve is in dual sign indicating the second marriage.> > > This is not present in her husband chart.> > > > I thought these may be the reason which does not tally with her> > > husband chart.> > > > This may be due to wrong birth time.> > > > When you change the time as 9:36 AM then also nothing changes> > > except navamsa.> > > > You may correct me if I am wrong anywhere.> > > > Thanks and regards.>

> > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > > > > Ash <kas@> wrote:> > > > Here if you cast the chart of the natives wife with the> > > given time of 8:30 am, marriage happens in the highest powerplanet of> > > Venus, and yet Ramesh and I both questioned the time of birth.> > > > And it turns out that the birth certificate time is of 9:32 AM> > > which is more than 1 hour difference. Even still the birth timemight> > > be wrong.> > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Ash> > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 10:38 PM> > > > > > > > RE: Re: need advice-current> > divorce> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet and All, > > > > Here the native has blessing if this chart is accurate. Most of> > > the points are less in 7th house so results are showing.> > > > Now, 6th lord is Saturn and its with 3 bindus in 10th house. So> > > from there he aspects 7th i.e LoB,

House E, House D, LoA and LoC in> > > Navamsa. So here results are more severe. > > > > Here for Quality, remove -5 points from 12th, 7th and 4th and> > > from Mercury and sun as well for quality i.e. 5 points more tooffset> > > bad effects of 6th lord. > > > > So only Moon is good for timing and quality. > > > > From lagna, sun, mo, ve and Ma all are in 4:10, 2:12, 4:10, 3:11> > > and 2:12. > > > > Lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 in navamsa. > > > > > > > > As you have said, there is full delay of Sa for 27 years and then> > > of Ju after that. So marriage can happen in Rahu who is SD to 6th> > > lord and 7th lord Sa and Mo. > > > > After marriage, antra running have been of Ju who has less power> > > in 7th, and then after that Mercury who is 2nd lord and lesspower

in> > > 7th house. > > > > Child birth in Sa antra who is SD to Ve the strongest significator> > > for 5th house and Sa is NSD to Ve.> > > > Now the native is running Ketu antra and Ketu is in House E for> > > 7th as B and SD to Mo so again strong feelings are there and at the> > > same time its SD to Sa as well so again it can't give fullhappiness.> > > > After that again the antras are not strong for 7th house, sun has> > > 12 points but again its aspected by Sa so quality is still poor. > > > > > > > > My suggestion in this case would be to try to reconcile with his> > > wife and to use the power of blessing. Try to let bygones be bygones> > > and start afresh for the child.> > > > The native will have to do a lot of adjustment.> > > > Otherwise it's very

difficult.> > > > > > > > On another note, just recently I gave the discussion that> > > Krushnaji gave on accepting time as given. Here this gentleman's> > > wife's chart is a prime candidate on how data can be wrong and using> > > KAS it can be pointed out. Ramesh also pointed out the improper time> > > of his wife and so did I. > > > > Actually this is based on concrete calculations and just accepting> > > the time given as correct is not always proper. Unless one takes> > > proper effort to tally events and makes sure that things are fitting> > > right or even in the ball park.> > > > I will leave it to Ramesh to show and demonstrate the reason on> > > why he questioned the authenticity of birth time.> > > > Sometimes, people also change the dates and that I have personally> >

> experienced. In any case, one thing is clear, that if the birth time> > > is accurate then all the events of life will fall in place. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Ofharjeet> > > bakshi> > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 9:07 PM> > > > > > > > Re: need advice-currentdivorce> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Amir,> > > > i am just learning KAS...> > > > > > > > taking marriage 5 years ago.. might have happened in the antra> of rahu> > > > samdhari to saturn lord of 6th and is situated in 6th house.> > > > now antra of ketu samdhari to moon which is having highestpoint for> > > > 7th house and situated in D... so chances of marriage to break(i> dont> > > > wish so.. but thats the law given in lesson).. but again rahu is> also> > > > samdhari to moon which has highest points for 7th house.> > > > Ashji please guide on this

one..> > > > i think the result of marriage is spoiled because rahu being> samdhari> > > > to 6th lord saturn gave marriage.> > > > also 6th lord saturn has sight on B,D and E so marriage is bad...> > > > result might be felt specially in the antra of saturn... 2004sep to> > > > 2006 apr.> > > > also during this antra gave bad results for house 4th and 7thaswell> > > > as 6th being in less points and 4th from sun and mercury.> > > > venus is in dual sign in both rasi(also aspecting 2nd housewith -5> > > > points) and navamsa.. chances of 2 marriages.> > > > sun in 7th house.> > > > moon aspected by ketu in navamsa and with mars in rasi.. mightcause> > > > you to take hasty steps.> > > > cant go more as out of time..> > > > try to

put efforts to pursue your goal. one point irrespective of> > > > birth time in your wife's chart is that your rahu and saturnaspects> > > > her mars based on sign overlapping. so there would be strong> > > > attraction between the couple... this might be the positivefactor.> > > > thanks/regards> > > > harjeet> > > > > > > > , jay shanders> > > > <phillyanyone@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Mr. ramesh> > > > > how are you?/> > > > > thank you so much for your reply> > > > > as i am always gratful for all your help and i dont mean to give> > > > you a hard time its just i depend on you so much for

advice and> > > > prediction as to my current divorce proceeding> > > > > my wife has told me her birth time is 8:30 AM but i have acopy of> > > > her indian birth certificate and on there it has 9:36 AM so i> honestly> > > > dont know which one is for real as i cant even ask her right> now. can> > > > you use both and see what results you get. as using the 8:30AM you> > > > have said that there is no divorce now or future, does that still> > > > hold. i just want to know that even though iam going through the> > > > divorce proceeding should i really worry as will it go through> and us> > > > divorce or will it Not happen and we stay married. my birthtime is> > > > accurate so do i have divorce and 2nd marriage in my chart ???? i> > > > just want to know over all

if me and my wife will have a long> lasting> > > > marriage ??> > > > > > > > > > please help me in any way possible as you are helping a person> > > > save his marriage and thus i have a daughter that i worry so much> > > > about. any further information as to my chart will beappreciated??> > > > > thank you> > > > > amir> > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:> > > > > Dear Amir,> > > > > Please read my all mails sincerely.You will find all> > > > > your answers.> > > > > I had asked you before also the correctness of> > > > > birthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked you same> > > > > data.> > > > > Unless the birthtime is

authenticated, all efforts> > > > > will be useless.> > > > > This I have already pointed you out.I think now you> > > > > understand it.> > > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > > > > > > --- jay shanders <phillyanyone@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh,> > > > > > namaste> > > > > > iam not confused as you have told me in last email> > > > > > that there is No divorce nor or future.> > > > > > iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for> > > > > > consults and you have beening gicing me > > > > > > predictions. so are you now saying that we will> > > > > > divorce now with likely chances of reunion in feb???> > > > > > so divorce

will occur??? i think if divorce occur> > > > > > there will not be any chances of reunion since i> > > > > > cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would she> > > > > > reunite with me after it ??> > > > > > thank you> > > > > > amir> > > > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:> > > > > > Dear Amir,> > > > > > Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in> > > > > > the month of Feb/2008.> > > > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > > > > > > > > phillyanyone <phillyanyone@> wrote:> > > > > > NAMASTE> > > > > > Dear Guruji> > > > > > Mr

name is Amir and iam currently separated from my> > > > > > wife and daughter > > > > > > since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce> > > > > > proceeding status. > > > > > > because of many problems between my wife and her> > > > > > controling parents > > > > > > who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for> > > > > > divorce becase of > > > > > > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of> > > > > > weeks going by, i > > > > > > wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our> > > > > > marriage and she too > > > > > > wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now> > > > > > her parents are > > > > > > totally against her coming back and saving

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i would find tommorow... and tell you details how to approach him..

please send me one private mail in same address. i would reply tommorow.

thanks/regards

harjeet

 

, jay shanders

<phillyanyone wrote:

>

> Namaste

> Dear harjeet

> i totally understand that you are a learner and the help and

advice you have given me thus far is so greatly appreciated, as iam

always gratful for any help i can get as to my problem. yes iam so

worried and tense becase of my marriage thus i love my wife and dont

want to lose her but she is brainwashed and blinded as to her decision

about proceeding divorce as to her aprents wishes, her parents are

runing 3 people lives and mostly my daughter who will lose both

parents together and i dont want that to happen to my daughter as she

needs a family with both parents together. i dont know what to do at

this point as i have tried very hard to convince my wife as to

changing her decision but she dont want to listen to me anymore and

thus has stopped all contact with me. i have been doing mantras and

praying so hard but i dont know what will happen thats why i needed

someone who can really give me correct prediciton as to what will happen.

> please give me the address and phone number of the person in Ny

who can give me correct prediction as i will contact him for help.

> is there any other prediction you can give me as to my future events??

> thank you

> amir

>

> harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi wrote:

> Dear Amir,

> as i told you i am learner.

> so i can only guess looking at antras and the points you getting in

> the KAS worksheet.

> i told you to wait till apr 2008 as i explained earlier.. the

> antra(sub period) of saturn would start in case of your wife(taking

> into consideration a hypothetical time of 9:03 which might not be

> correct). at this point she would find it a need to get back with you.

> right now the time is having low points for marriage so the urge isnt

> that strong.

> but you decide on your own. as efforts count 50% too.

> so keep the priority of getting back with her.

> blessing in chart means either father or father like figure/elder or

> guru would cause things to happen in positive way.

> about attraction i already told you.. about saturn and rahu aspecting

> mars.. so this would keep attraction which could lead to attachment.

> i dont know whether divorce would take place or not.

> or whether both of you would reunite or marry again to a different

person.

> i know you must be very tense.if you are interested and around NY area

> in USA, i would give you address of a person whom you can visit who

> gives most of correct predictions without asking for birth time and

> doesnt charge. this is KAS forum.. so its inappropriate for me to give

> details here.

> thanks/regards

> harjeet

>

> , jay shanders

> <phillyanyone@> wrote:

> >

> > Namaste

> > Dear harjeet,

> > thank you so much for taking the time for your feedback as iam so

> gratful as i need all the advice and help i can get to help me know

> what will honeslty happen as to my current divorce situation.

> > why is it important that i wait til april 2008 as i dont have that

> much time since we have been separated for past 6 months and in my

> state in usa my wife can sign the divorce papers after 6 months so she

> can basically sign the papers anytime now she wants as we have a court

> date on october 1 so i dont have til april 2008 becase if we do

> divorce i dont think there would be any chances of us reuniting after

> the divorce as she may not want to or her parents will try to remarry

> her off so what do you suggest???

> > you have said of blessing in my charts and my wife too- what do

> you mean by that??

> > ok, can you for once make this clear to me as iam so worried and

> scared as i want to know -

> > do you think that the divorce will go though- meaning will my wife

> sign the divorce papers and divroce us ?? is there divorce occuring

> betwwen me and my wife and if so do we both have 2nd marriage??? or no

> matter what happen will we stay married ????? what do you honeslty

> forsee ??

> > can you tell me any future life events for me as to my charts??

> > any advice or prediction you can give me will be gratful

> > thank you

> > amir

> >

> > harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > , jay shanders

> > <phillyanyone@> wrote:

> > >

> > Dear Amir,

> > thanks for your feedback.

> > yes at the end of 2003 your antra of jupiter having very low points

> > for 7th house and your wife's moon antra which is samdhari to mars her

> > 6th lord was going on... and then antra of mars followed.

> > after first quarter of 2008.. her antra of saturn would start which is

> > having better points than current antra of jupiter and is also lord of

> > D would start, which would be favourable i guess.

> > besides blessing in your chart and perhaps your wife chart too.

> > also saturn and mars of your chart aspects her mars.. i already

> > pointed that out to you yesterday.

> > so things would hopefully turn out good.

> > my suggestion is that keep calm and adjust till april 2008.

> > all the best.

> > thanks/regards

> > harjeet

> >

> > > Dear fellow members

> > > namaste

> > > marriage was on june 1 2002, engagement was sept 2000, we started

> > having problems in ending of 2003 with ups and down since then, since

> > 2004 we have has 5 short separations with my leaving 2 time anc coming

> > back and then me leaving 3 times and coming back becase of severe

> > fights, as there is nothing serious between us but my inlaws cause

> > great stress and unhappiness by constant interfering and control as t

> > my wife , currently my wife did not want divorce and she had changed

> > her mind as to saving our marriage but her parents want her to go

> > through with the divorce even though we hava a 1 year old daughter.

> > becase of her parents influence my wife does not want to go against

> > them and thus proceed with the divorce. as i have tried vey hard to

> > convince my wife but now she says that she is not going to change her

> > mind as to the divorce as we dont have much time becase in my state

> > divorce can occur after 6 months of separation.

> > > we have been separated since march 9 2007.

> > > please all member can you tell me as to what i should expect will

> > happen- will we stay married and reunite or will my wife go thorugh

> > with the divorce and thus us divorced?? if divorce does occor then

> > are any chances of reuntiing after since we have a daughter together

> > so will my wife remarry ?? my birth date is accurate so what

> > about my life events as to marriage and future?? please help me as all

> > adive and predictions would be appreciated

> > > if anyone needs any more information please let me know, as i need

> > all the help i can get to save my marriage.

> > > GOD bless

> > > amir

> > >

> > > harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > > Dear Ashji/Mishraji,

> > >

> > > If we take birth time to 9:03.

> > > we get libra navamsa here. so again lord of lagna and 9th in navamsa

> > > is 5:9 in navamsa.

> > >

> > > now antra of jupiter starts on 26th jan 2006. taking 13 days

> > > difference or may be if the child was born before 9 months..

anyway i

> > > think its marginal difference. i call it close call. so conceive and

> > > birth both in jupiter antra.

> > >

> > > regarding marriage problems, it should have started in the antra of

> > > mars jan 2005 to jan 2006.

> > > and this might have worsen in antra of jupiter which has low points

> > > for 7th house.

> > >

> > > feedback from Amir would be appreciated.

> > >

> > > thanks/regards

> > > harjeet

> > >

> > > , ramesh mishra

> > > <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ash,Anup, Harjeet and all,

> > > > Another reason for the doubt in her birth time is the period of

> > > separation on 9 Mar 2007.

> > > > The native was running through 2nd lord antara of Jup. This period

> > > may give worries and strain but separation I could not find in this

> > > antara.

> > > > The separation took place in second sector of Ju antara.

> > > > When you analyse the 2nd house, its karak is Mo who is in house B

> > > of 7th.

> > > > The Mo is strongly placed in 7th with 6 bindus and in the 10th

> > > place from Sa ,LoD for 7th.Therefore aspect of Sa on Mo may not harm

> > > the native for 7th house matter.

> > > > On the contrary Mo being powerful in 7th, LoA for 2nd may

> > > influence the native for separation. Mo will have its malefic aspect

> > > on lagna.

> > > > So Mo antara may give either separation or divorce. But it is

> not so.

> > > > Ju is not SD to either Mo or Me or Ve. These antaras are late for

> > > the result of 2nd house matter.

> > > > I could not understand how Ju separated them. Of course Ju is LoA

> > > for 7th and LoB for 2nd. Ju is weak in WS for 2nd and 7th.

> > > > So I do not think Ju antara should result in separation for this

> > > couple as per her chart.

> > > > The timing of child birth on 8 Sep 2006 is in line.She might have

> > > conceived in the month of Dec 2005 during Ra-Ma.

> > > > But the chart shows delay in conception but she conceived in

> > > second sector instead of third sector in Ma antara. Ma is in 9th

house

> > > > So these are the points where I found birth time of this female

> > > native is incorrect.

> > > > If I am wrong with my analysis,please correct me.

> > > > This detail explanation is for my learning.

> > > > With best regards.

> > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > > > Dear Ashji,

> > > > Amir has more points in 7th house compared to lagna.. so his wife

> > > > should be considered somewhat stubborn as the points are 29

and not

> > > > more than 30.

> > > > again my same question : this should be reflected in the lagna of

> > > > Amir's wife ? should lagna be more than 28 points ?

> > > > so can we judge if time is correct or not from this criteria too ?

> > > > thanks/regards

> > > > harjeet

> > > >

> > > > , jay shanders

> > > > <phillyanyone@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > NAMASTE

> > > > > Dear fellow member,

> > > > > thank you so much for taking the time to analyze my and my wifes

> > > > charts as i honeslty dont know which birth time 8:30 AM or 9:36

> AM is

> > > > accurate for my wife but my birth time of 7:15 PM is accurate so

> what

> > > > would be the over all outcome as to my current divorce

> situation- will

> > > > the divorce go though and us divorceed with my chancea or

reuniting

> > > > afterwards ????? any 2nd marriage for either ?? or will the

divorce

> > > > not happen and us reuntiing and staying married?? i just want to

> know

> > > > what to really expect as to my current divorce proceedings??

> > > > > since my birth time is accurate then all my events in life will

> > > > fall into place right?? what can i expect as to my life events

as to

> > > > now and the future in terms of marriage ??? i would appreciate all

> > > > advice possible.

> > > > > GOD bless

> > > > > amir

> > > > >

> > > > > " Anup. M " <dalh_1@> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > > >

> > > > > I am gettind Asc 6Sc38.

> > > > > Your explaination so nice.

> > > > > But Mars can not be SD to Moon in this chart as you mentioned.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Anup

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Ash, Anup, Harjeet and all,

> > > > > The reasons for questioning the authenticity in the birth

time in

> > > > respect of his spouse are followings.

> > > > > 1.His wife married on 1 Jun 2002 during Ra / Ve. Undoubtedly

Ve is

> > > > the strongest significator for 7th house but there is also

combined

> > > > delay caused by Sa and Ju both.

> > > > > This delay is overcome on 29 Aug 2004 during Ra/ Mo.

> > > > > As per the given time marriage could have taken place in Ma

antara

> > > > who is SD to Mo.

> > > > > Ma is also 6th lord.

> > > > > 2. This chart indicates harmony in married life because 7th from

> > > > lagna, Su and Mo all are in 3:11 ratio.

> > > > > 3.There is no blessings in the chart.

> > > > > 4. Both the luminaries are aspected by Sa.

> > > > > 5. Ve is under the affliction of Ra/Ke

> > > > > 6.Ma as 6th lord is in karak sthaan of 2nd and Mo the karka lord

> > > > of 2nd is in house B for 7th. The same Mo and Ma are in 4:10

> > > > relationship in navamsa.

> > > > > This may indicate the separation and then divorce.

> > > > > But this factor is absent in her hussband chart.

> > > > > 7. 7th lord Ve is in dual sign indicating the second marriage.

> > > > This is not present in her husband chart.

> > > > > I thought these may be the reason which does not tally with her

> > > > husband chart.

> > > > > This may be due to wrong birth time.

> > > > > When you change the time as 9:36 AM then also nothing changes

> > > > except navamsa.

> > > > > You may correct me if I am wrong anywhere.

> > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > >

> > > > > Ash <kas@> wrote:

> > > > > Here if you cast the chart of the natives wife with the

> > > > given time of 8:30 am, marriage happens in the highest power

> planet of

> > > > Venus, and yet Ramesh and I both questioned the time of birth.

> > > > > And it turns out that the birth certificate time is of 9:32 AM

> > > > which is more than 1 hour difference. Even still the birth time

> might

> > > > be wrong.

> > > > >

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > On Behalf Of Ash

> > > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 10:38 PM

> > > > >

> > > > > RE: Re: need advice-current

> > > divorce

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Harjeet and All,

> > > > > Here the native has blessing if this chart is accurate. Most of

> > > > the points are less in 7th house so results are showing.

> > > > > Now, 6th lord is Saturn and its with 3 bindus in 10th house. So

> > > > from there he aspects 7th i.e LoB, House E, House D, LoA and

LoC in

> > > > Navamsa. So here results are more severe.

> > > > > Here for Quality, remove -5 points from 12th, 7th and 4th and

> > > > from Mercury and sun as well for quality i.e. 5 points more to

> offset

> > > > bad effects of 6th lord.

> > > > > So only Moon is good for timing and quality.

> > > > > From lagna, sun, mo, ve and Ma all are in 4:10, 2:12, 4:10, 3:11

> > > > and 2:12.

> > > > > Lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 in navamsa.

> > > > >

> > > > > As you have said, there is full delay of Sa for 27 years and

then

> > > > of Ju after that. So marriage can happen in Rahu who is SD to 6th

> > > > lord and 7th lord Sa and Mo.

> > > > > After marriage, antra running have been of Ju who has less power

> > > > in 7th, and then after that Mercury who is 2nd lord and less

> power in

> > > > 7th house.

> > > > > Child birth in Sa antra who is SD to Ve the strongest

significator

> > > > for 5th house and Sa is NSD to Ve.

> > > > > Now the native is running Ketu antra and Ketu is in House E for

> > > > 7th as B and SD to Mo so again strong feelings are there and

at the

> > > > same time its SD to Sa as well so again it can't give full

> happiness.

> > > > > After that again the antras are not strong for 7th house,

sun has

> > > > 12 points but again its aspected by Sa so quality is still poor.

> > > > >

> > > > > My suggestion in this case would be to try to reconcile with his

> > > > wife and to use the power of blessing. Try to let bygones be

bygones

> > > > and start afresh for the child.

> > > > > The native will have to do a lot of adjustment.

> > > > > Otherwise it's very difficult.

> > > > >

> > > > > On another note, just recently I gave the discussion that

> > > > Krushnaji gave on accepting time as given. Here this gentleman's

> > > > wife's chart is a prime candidate on how data can be wrong and

using

> > > > KAS it can be pointed out. Ramesh also pointed out the

improper time

> > > > of his wife and so did I.

> > > > > Actually this is based on concrete calculations and just

accepting

> > > > the time given as correct is not always proper. Unless one takes

> > > > proper effort to tally events and makes sure that things are

fitting

> > > > right or even in the ball park.

> > > > > I will leave it to Ramesh to show and demonstrate the reason on

> > > > why he questioned the authenticity of birth time.

> > > > > Sometimes, people also change the dates and that I have

personally

> > > > experienced. In any case, one thing is clear, that if the

birth time

> > > > is accurate then all the events of life will fall in place.

> > > > >

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > On Behalf Of

> harjeet

> > > > bakshi

> > > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 9:07 PM

> > > > >

> > > > > Re: need advice-current

> divorce

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Amir,

> > > > > i am just learning KAS...

> > > > >

> > > > > taking marriage 5 years ago.. might have happened in the antra

> > of rahu

> > > > > samdhari to saturn lord of 6th and is situated in 6th house.

> > > > > now antra of ketu samdhari to moon which is having highest

> point for

> > > > > 7th house and situated in D... so chances of marriage to break(i

> > dont

> > > > > wish so.. but thats the law given in lesson).. but again rahu is

> > also

> > > > > samdhari to moon which has highest points for 7th house.

> > > > > Ashji please guide on this one..

> > > > > i think the result of marriage is spoiled because rahu being

> > samdhari

> > > > > to 6th lord saturn gave marriage.

> > > > > also 6th lord saturn has sight on B,D and E so marriage is

bad...

> > > > > result might be felt specially in the antra of saturn... 2004

> sep to

> > > > > 2006 apr.

> > > > > also during this antra gave bad results for house 4th and 7th

> aswell

> > > > > as 6th being in less points and 4th from sun and mercury.

> > > > > venus is in dual sign in both rasi(also aspecting 2nd house

> with -5

> > > > > points) and navamsa.. chances of 2 marriages.

> > > > > sun in 7th house.

> > > > > moon aspected by ketu in navamsa and with mars in rasi.. might

> cause

> > > > > you to take hasty steps.

> > > > > cant go more as out of time..

> > > > > try to put efforts to pursue your goal. one point

irrespective of

> > > > > birth time in your wife's chart is that your rahu and saturn

> aspects

> > > > > her mars based on sign overlapping. so there would be strong

> > > > > attraction between the couple... this might be the positive

> factor.

> > > > > thanks/regards

> > > > > harjeet

> > > > >

> > > > > , jay shanders

> > > > > <phillyanyone@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Mr. ramesh

> > > > > > how are you?/

> > > > > > thank you so much for your reply

> > > > > > as i am always gratful for all your help and i dont mean

to give

> > > > > you a hard time its just i depend on you so much for advice and

> > > > > prediction as to my current divorce proceeding

> > > > > > my wife has told me her birth time is 8:30 AM but i have a

> copy of

> > > > > her indian birth certificate and on there it has 9:36 AM so i

> > honestly

> > > > > dont know which one is for real as i cant even ask her right

> > now. can

> > > > > you use both and see what results you get. as using the 8:30

> AM you

> > > > > have said that there is no divorce now or future, does that

still

> > > > > hold. i just want to know that even though iam going through the

> > > > > divorce proceeding should i really worry as will it go through

> > and us

> > > > > divorce or will it Not happen and we stay married. my birth

> time is

> > > > > accurate so do i have divorce and 2nd marriage in my chart

???? i

> > > > > just want to know over all if me and my wife will have a long

> > lasting

> > > > > marriage ??

> > > > > >

> > > > > > please help me in any way possible as you are helping a person

> > > > > save his marriage and thus i have a daughter that i worry so

much

> > > > > about. any further information as to my chart will be

> appreciated??

> > > > > > thank you

> > > > > > amir

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Amir,

> > > > > > Please read my all mails sincerely.You will find all

> > > > > > your answers.

> > > > > > I had asked you before also the correctness of

> > > > > > birthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked you same

> > > > > > data.

> > > > > > Unless the birthtime is authenticated, all efforts

> > > > > > will be useless.

> > > > > > This I have already pointed you out.I think now you

> > > > > > understand it.

> > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- jay shanders <phillyanyone@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > > > > > namaste

> > > > > > > iam not confused as you have told me in last email

> > > > > > > that there is No divorce nor or future.

> > > > > > > iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for

> > > > > > > consults and you have beening gicing me

> > > > > > > predictions. so are you now saying that we will

> > > > > > > divorce now with likely chances of reunion in feb???

> > > > > > > so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce occur

> > > > > > > there will not be any chances of reunion since i

> > > > > > > cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would she

> > > > > > > reunite with me after it ??

> > > > > > > thank you

> > > > > > > amir

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear Amir,

> > > > > > > Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in

> > > > > > > the month of Feb/2008.

> > > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > phillyanyone <phillyanyone@> wrote:

> > > > > > > NAMASTE

> > > > > > > Dear Guruji

> > > > > > > Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated from my

> > > > > > > wife and daughter

> > > > > > > since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce

> > > > > > > proceeding status.

> > > > > > > because of many problems between my wife and her

> > > > > > > controling parents

> > > > > > > who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for

> > > > > > > divorce becase of

> > > > > > > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of

> > > > > > > weeks going by, i

> > > > > > > wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our

> > > > > > > marriage and she too

> > > > > > > wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now

> > > > > > > her parents are

> > > > > > > totally against her coming back and saving our

> > > > > > > marriage. my wife does

> > > > > > > not want to go aginst her parents and come back to

> > > > > > > me so she says

> > > > > > > thats it better to divorce and not work anything

> > > > > > > else. i have tried

> > > > > > > hard to convince her but nothing. we have been

> > > > > > > married for 5 years,

> > > > > > > on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on september

> > > > > > > 8, 2006. i have

> > > > > > > been told by many astrologer that neither have

> > > > > > > divorce or 2nd

> > > > > > > marriage so why iam I current in divorce status and

> > > > > > > will my marriage

> > > > > > > survive this current divorce status and me and my

> > > > > > > wfie getting back

> > > > > > > together. please advice as i need all the advice and

> > > > > > > help i can get

> > > > > > > to save my marriage and input as to what wil happen

> > > > > > > as to my marriage-

> > > > > > > divorce or us reuniting????

> > > > > > > thank you

> > > > > > > God bless

> > > > > > > amir

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > amir patel

> > > > > > > biodata-

> > > > > > > february 19, 1972, 7:15 PM, ahmadabad, india

> > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > biodata

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[Guest guest]

Dear Ash and Harjeet,

Ma is lagna and 6th lord occupy 9th house.

Ma is LoC for 9th and LoD for 4th occupy house E for 4th.

Ma is in house D for 12th and its LoD Mo is in karaksthaan for 12th.

There is inter relationship of 9th, 4th,1st and 12th house.

What about his father?

Ash ! Is my approach correct ?

Thanks and regards.

Ramesh Mishra

, " Ash " <kas

wrote:

>

> No Harjeet,

>

>

>

> Think more on it. Krushnaji has told in short. Study carefully,

lagna and

> 9th we see so here Ma is in 9th house .. what is special? Why it

did not

> spoil ?

>

>

>

> Cheers !!!

>

> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

> _____

>

>

> On Behalf Of

harjeet

> bakshi

> Wednesday September 19, 2007 3:10 PM

>

> Re: need advice-current divorce

>

>

>

> Dear Ashji,

> although 6th house is D for 9th house.. but its for all lagna.

> for scorpio lagna moon is lord of 9th which is nsd to mars 6th

lord..

> may be thats the reason.. thats what i can come up with .

> thanks/regards

> harjeet

>

> astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents ,

> " Ash " <kas@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Harjeet, Anup, Ramesh and all,

> >

> >

> >

> > Here Ma is in 9th house who is lord of 6th house so why wouldn't

it

> spoil

> > 9th house results?

> >

> > What is special about this lagna?

> >

> > What other lagna would this be applicable to and why?

> >

> >

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> >

> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca>

http://www.ashtro.

> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca

> >

> > _____

> >

> > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents

> > [astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents ]

> On Behalf Of Ash

> > Wednesday September 19, 2007 1:23 PM

> > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents

> > RE: Re: need advice-current

divorce

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Harjeet,

> >

> > Good analysis on the 5:9 :-)

> >

> >

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> >

> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca>

http://www.ashtro.

> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca

> >

> > _____

> >

> > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents

> > [astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents ]

> On Behalf Of harjeet

> > bakshi

> > Wednesday September 19, 2007 12:46 PM

> > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents

> > Re: need advice-current

divorce

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Ashji,

> > if in navamsa virgo asc. arises.. then in navamsa me and venus

i.e.

> > lord of 1st and 9th house is in 5:9. with 8:40 am.

> > with 9:30 saggi asc. in navamsa again sun and jupiter in 5:9 in

rasi

> > which are lord of 1st and 9th in navamsa.

> > thanks/regards

> > harjeet

> >

> > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,

> > " Ash " <kas@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Harjeet,

> > >

> > > How can 2nd lord aspect be like 6th lord. Something is wrong

> > somewhere. If

> > > you find that post let me know.

> > >

> > > 6th house is most malefic and its 12th from B = 7.

> > >

> > > Harjeet, if you just take Marriage in Ve antra being most

powerful

> > then even

> > > with 8:30 AM u will still get marriage in Ve antra.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Harjeet, please give the calculations here for computing

marriage in

> > detail

> > > using both times. This will give u good practice.

> > >

> > > I will look forward to proper calculations and that will help

all.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > >

> > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

<http://www.ashtro.ca>

> ca> ca>

> http://www.ashtro.

> > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > [astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]

> > On Behalf Of harjeet

> > > bakshi

> > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 11:59 AM

> > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > Re: need advice-current

divorce

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Ashji/Mishraji/Amir,

> > > 9:30 why cant be considered close to correct birth time ?

> > > marriage happened in the antra of E and most powerful

significator.

> > > conception and birth of child occurs in antra of jupiter

having very

> > > strong points for 5th,11th and 12th house.

> > > jupiter is having least points for 7th house. and is also lord

of 2nd

> > > house so more problems/tensions and bad result pertaining to

7th

> > > house. jupiter also aspects house A,E and D with -5 points.

> > > so result pertaining to this house is bad during its antra.

> > > somewhere in archive i think i read to look at 2nd lord's

aspect too

> > > just like 6th house..please correct me if i am wrong.

> > > again mars lord of 6th aspects house D and E.. and also

aspects lord

> > > of C. and also has low points for 7th house.

> > > so the antra of mars 2004 nov to 2005 nov must have created

problems

> > > in married life ? if Amir can comment on this.?

> > > next coming antra of saturn lord of D... early 2008 jan end or

feb..

> > > should bring better results ?

> > > Amir can you provide some information about career of your

wife.. if

> > > she dont work.. or work very hard but dont earn enough and the

> > > expenditure is too much from her side ?

> > > thanks/regards

> > > harjeet

> > >

> > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,

> > > " harjeet bakshi "

> > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Mishraji,

> > > > for husband(Amir) chart, venus is in pisces which is dual

sign.

> > > > thanks/regards

> > > > harjeet

> > > >

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,

> > > " Ash " <kas@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > > >

> > > > > Well explained with proper and concrete reasoning based on

KAS.

> > > > >

> > > > > That is the reason why I mentioned in my last line, that

the birth

> > > > time may

> > > > > still be wrong. :-)

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > >

> > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca>

> > ca> ca>

> > http://www.ashtro.

> > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca>

ca> ca>

> ca

> > > > >

> > > > > _____

> > > > >

> > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > > [astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]

> > > On Behalf Of

> > > > ramesh mishra

> > > > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 2:12 AM

> > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > > RE: Re: need advice-

current

> > > divorce

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Ash, Anup, Harjeet and all,

> > > > >

> > > > > The reasons for questioning the authenticity in the birth

time in

> > > > respect of

> > > > > his spouse are followings.

> > > > >

> > > > > 1.His wife married on 1 Jun 2002 during Ra / Ve.

Undoubtedly Ve

> > is the

> > > > > strongest significator for 7th house but there is also

combined

> > > > delay caused

> > > > > by Sa and Ju both.

> > > > >

> > > > > This delay is overcome on 29 Aug 2004 during Ra/ Mo.

> > > > >

> > > > > As per the given time marriage could have taken place in

Ma antara

> > > > who is SD

> > > > > to Mo.

> > > > >

> > > > > Ma is also 6th lord.

> > > > >

> > > > > 2. This chart indicates harmony in married life because

7th from

> > > > lagna, Su

> > > > > and Mo all are in 3:11 ratio.

> > > > >

> > > > > 3.There is no blessings in the chart.

> > > > >

> > > > > 4. Both the luminaries are aspected by Sa.

> > > > >

> > > > > 5. Ve is under the affliction of Ra/Ke

> > > > >

> > > > > 6.Ma as 6th lord is in karak sthaan of 2nd and Mo the karka

> lord of

> > > > 2nd is

> > > > > in house B for 7th. The same Mo and Ma are in 4:10

relationship in

> > > > navamsa.

> > > > >

> > > > > This may indicate the separation and then divorce.

> > > > >

> > > > > But this factor is absent in her hussband chart.

> > > > >

> > > > > 7. 7th lord Ve is in dual sign indicating the second

marriage.

> This

> > > > is not

> > > > > present in her husband chart.

> > > > >

> > > > > I thought these may be the reason which does not tally

with her

> > > husband

> > > > > chart.

> > > > >

> > > > > This may be due to wrong birth time.

> > > > >

> > > > > When you change the time as 9:36 AM then also nothing

changes

> except

> > > > > navamsa.

> > > > >

> > > > > You may correct me if I am wrong anywhere.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > >

> > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > >

> > > > > Ash <kas@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Here if you cast the chart of the natives wife with the

given time

> > > > of 8:30

> > > > > am, marriage happens in the highest power planet of Venus,

and yet

> > > > Ramesh

> > > > > and I both questioned the time of birth.

> > > > >

> > > > > And it turns out that the birth certificate time is of

9:32 AM

> which

> > > > is more

> > > > > than 1 hour difference. Even still the birth time might be

wrong.

> > > > >

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > >

> > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca/>

> > ca/> ca/>

> > > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> ca

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > _____

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > > [astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]

> > > On Behalf Of Ash

> > > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 10:38 PM

> > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > > RE: Re: need advice-

current

> > > divorce

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Harjeet and All,

> > > > >

> > > > > Here the native has blessing if this chart is accurate.

Most

> of the

> > > > points

> > > > > are less in 7th house so results are showing.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now, 6th lord is Saturn and its with 3 bindus in 10th

house. So

> > > > from there

> > > > > he aspects 7th i.e LoB, House E, House D, LoA and LoC in

Navamsa.

> > > > So here

> > > > > results are more severe.

> > > > >

> > > > > Here for Quality, remove -5 points from 12th, 7th and 4th

and from

> > > > Mercury

> > > > > and sun as well for quality i.e. 5 points more to offset

bad

> effects

> > > > of 6th

> > > > > lord.

> > > > >

> > > > > So only Moon is good for timing and quality.

> > > > >

> > > > > From lagna, sun, mo, ve and Ma all are in 4:10, 2:12, 4:10,

> 3:11 and

> > > > 2:12.

> > > > >

> > > > > Lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 in navamsa.

> > > > >

> > > > > As you have said, there is full delay of Sa for 27 years

and then

> > > of Ju

> > > > > after that. So marriage can happen in Rahu who is SD to

6th lord

> > > > and 7th

> > > > > lord Sa and Mo.

> > > > >

> > > > > After marriage, antra running have been of Ju who has less

> power in

> > > > 7th, and

> > > > > then after that Mercury who is 2nd lord and less power in

7th

> > house.

> > > > >

> > > > > Child birth in Sa antra who is SD to Ve the strongest

significator

> > > > for 5th

> > > > > house and Sa is NSD to Ve.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now the native is running Ketu antra and Ketu is in House E

> for 7th

> > > > as B and

> > > > > SD to Mo so again strong feelings are there and at the same

> time its

> > > > SD to

> > > > > Sa as well so again it can't give full happiness.

> > > > >

> > > > > After that again the antras are not strong for 7th house,

sun

> has 12

> > > > points

> > > > > but again its aspected by Sa so quality is still poor.

> > > > >

> > > > > My suggestion in this case would be to try to reconcile

with his

> > > > wife and to

> > > > > use the power of blessing. Try to let bygones be bygones

and start

> > > > afresh

> > > > > for the child.

> > > > >

> > > > > The native will have to do a lot of adjustment.

> > > > >

> > > > > Otherwise it's very difficult.

> > > > >

> > > > > On another note, just recently I gave the discussion that

> Krushnaji

> > > > gave on

> > > > > accepting time as given. Here this gentleman's wife's

chart is a

> > > prime

> > > > > candidate on how data can be wrong and using KAS it can be

pointed

> > > out.

> > > > > Ramesh also pointed out the improper time of his wife and

so

> did I.

> > > > >

> > > > > Actually this is based on concrete calculations and just

accepting

> > > > the time

> > > > > given as correct is not always proper. Unless one takes

proper

> > > > effort to

> > > > > tally events and makes sure that things are fitting right

or even

> > > in the

> > > > > ball park.

> > > > >

> > > > > I will leave it to Ramesh to show and demonstrate the

reason on

> > why he

> > > > > questioned the authenticity of birth time.

> > > > >

> > > > > Sometimes, people also change the dates and that I have

personally

> > > > > experienced. In any case, one thing is clear, that if the

birth

> > > time is

> > > > > accurate then all the events of life will fall in place.

> > > > >

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > >

> > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca/>

> > ca/> ca/>

> > > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> ca

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > _____

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > > [astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]

> > > On Behalf Of harjeet

> > > > > bakshi

> > > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 9:07 PM

> > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > > Re: need advice-current

> divorce

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Amir,

> > > > > i am just learning KAS...

> > > > >

> > > > > taking marriage 5 years ago.. might have happened in the

antra

> > of rahu

> > > > > samdhari to saturn lord of 6th and is situated in 6th

house.

> > > > > now antra of ketu samdhari to moon which is having highest

> point for

> > > > > 7th house and situated in D... so chances of marriage to

break(i

> > dont

> > > > > wish so.. but thats the law given in lesson).. but again

rahu is

> > also

> > > > > samdhari to moon which has highest points for 7th house.

> > > > > Ashji please guide on this one..

> > > > > i think the result of marriage is spoiled because rahu

being

> > samdhari

> > > > > to 6th lord saturn gave marriage.

> > > > > also 6th lord saturn has sight on B,D and E so marriage is

bad...

> > > > > result might be felt specially in the antra of saturn...

2004

> sep to

> > > > > 2006 apr.

> > > > > also during this antra gave bad results for house 4th and

7th

> aswell

> > > > > as 6th being in less points and 4th from sun and mercury.

> > > > > venus is in dual sign in both rasi(also aspecting 2nd house

> with -5

> > > > > points) and navamsa.. chances of 2 marriages.

> > > > > sun in 7th house.

> > > > > moon aspected by ketu in navamsa and with mars in rasi..

might

> cause

> > > > > you to take hasty steps.

> > > > > cant go more as out of time..

> > > > > try to put efforts to pursue your goal. one point

irrespective of

> > > > > birth time in your wife's chart is that your rahu and

saturn

> aspects

> > > > > her mars based on sign overlapping. so there would be

strong

> > > > > attraction between the couple... this might be the positive

> factor.

> > > > > thanks/regards

> > > > > harjeet

> > > > >

> > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > > > <%40>

> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,

> > > > > jay shanders

> > > > > <phillyanyone@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Mr. ramesh

> > > > > > how are you?/

> > > > > > thank you so much for your reply

> > > > > > as i am always gratful for all your help and i dont mean

to give

> > > > > you a hard time its just i depend on you so much for

advice and

> > > > > prediction as to my current divorce proceeding

> > > > > > my wife has told me her birth time is 8:30 AM but i have

a

> copy of

> > > > > her indian birth certificate and on there it has 9:36 AM

so i

> > honestly

> > > > > dont know which one is for real as i cant even ask her

right

> > now. can

> > > > > you use both and see what results you get. as using the

8:30

> AM you

> > > > > have said that there is no divorce now or future, does

that still

> > > > > hold. i just want to know that even though iam going

through the

> > > > > divorce proceeding should i really worry as will it go

through

> > and us

> > > > > divorce or will it Not happen and we stay married. my birth

> time is

> > > > > accurate so do i have divorce and 2nd marriage in my

chart ???? i

> > > > > just want to know over all if me and my wife will have a

long

> > lasting

> > > > > marriage ??

> > > > > >

> > > > > > please help me in any way possible as you are helping a

person

> > > > > save his marriage and thus i have a daughter that i worry

so much

> > > > > about. any further information as to my chart will be

> appreciated??

> > > > > > thank you

> > > > > > amir

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Amir,

> > > > > > Please read my all mails sincerely.You will find all

> > > > > > your answers.

> > > > > > I had asked you before also the correctness of

> > > > > > birthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked you same

> > > > > > data.

> > > > > > Unless the birthtime is authenticated, all efforts

> > > > > > will be useless.

> > > > > > This I have already pointed you out.I think now you

> > > > > > understand it.

> > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- jay shanders <phillyanyone@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > > > > > namaste

> > > > > > > iam not confused as you have told me in last email

> > > > > > > that there is No divorce nor or future.

> > > > > > > iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for

> > > > > > > consults and you have beening gicing me

> > > > > > > predictions. so are you now saying that we will

> > > > > > > divorce now with likely chances of reunion in feb???

> > > > > > > so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce occur

> > > > > > > there will not be any chances of reunion since i

> > > > > > > cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would she

> > > > > > > reunite with me after it ??

> > > > > > > thank you

> > > > > > > amir

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear Amir,

> > > > > > > Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in

> > > > > > > the month of Feb/2008.

> > > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > phillyanyone <phillyanyone@> wrote:

> > > > > > > NAMASTE

> > > > > > > Dear Guruji

> > > > > > > Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated from my

> > > > > > > wife and daughter

> > > > > > > since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce

> > > > > > > proceeding status.

> > > > > > > because of many problems between my wife and her

> > > > > > > controling parents

> > > > > > > who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for

> > > > > > > divorce becase of

> > > > > > > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of

> > > > > > > weeks going by, i

> > > > > > > wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our

> > > > > > > marriage and she too

> > > > > > > wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now

> > > > > > > her parents are

> > > > > > > totally against her coming back and saving our

> > > > > > > marriage. my wife does

> > > > > > > not want to go aginst her parents and come back to

> > > > > > > me so she says

> > > > > > > thats it better to divorce and not work anything

> > > > > > > else. i have tried

> > > > > > > hard to convince her but nothing. we have been

> > > > > > > married for 5 years,

> > > > > > > on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on september

> > > > > > > 8, 2006. i have

> > > > > > > been told by many astrologer that neither have

> > > > > > > divorce or 2nd

> > > > > > > marriage so why iam I current in divorce status and

> > > > > > > will my marriage

> > > > > > > survive this current divorce status and me and my

> > > > > > > wfie getting back

> > > > > > > together. please advice as i need all the advice and

> > > > > > > help i can get

> > > > > > > to save my marriage and input as to what wil happen

> > > > > > > as to my marriage-

> > > > > > > divorce or us reuniting????

> > > > > > > thank you

> > > > > > > God bless

> > > > > > > amir

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > amir patel

> > > > > > > biodata-

> > > > > > > february 19, 1972, 7:15 PM, ahmadabad, india

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[Guest guest]

Dear Ash and Harjeet,

Ma is lagna and 6th lord occupy 9th house.

Ma is LoC for 9th and LoD for 4th occupy house E for 4th.

Ma is in house D for 12th and its LoD Mo is in karaksthaan for 12th.

There is inter relationship of 9th, 4th,1st and 12th house.

What about his father?

Ash ! Is my approach correct ?

Thanks and regards.

Ramesh Mishra

, " Ash " <kas

wrote:

>

> No Harjeet,

>

>

>

> Think more on it. Krushnaji has told in short. Study carefully,

lagna and

> 9th we see so here Ma is in 9th house .. what is special? Why it

did not

> spoil ?

>

>

>

> Cheers !!!

>

> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

> _____

>

>

> On Behalf Of

harjeet

> bakshi

> Wednesday September 19, 2007 3:10 PM

>

> Re: need advice-current divorce

>

>

>

> Dear Ashji,

> although 6th house is D for 9th house.. but its for all lagna.

> for scorpio lagna moon is lord of 9th which is nsd to mars 6th

lord..

> may be thats the reason.. thats what i can come up with .

> thanks/regards

> harjeet

>

> astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents ,

> " Ash " <kas@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Harjeet, Anup, Ramesh and all,

> >

> >

> >

> > Here Ma is in 9th house who is lord of 6th house so why wouldn't

it

> spoil

> > 9th house results?

> >

> > What is special about this lagna?

> >

> > What other lagna would this be applicable to and why?

> >

> >

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> >

> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca>

http://www.ashtro.

> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca

> >

> > _____

> >

> > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents

> > [astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents ]

> On Behalf Of Ash

> > Wednesday September 19, 2007 1:23 PM

> > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents

> > RE: Re: need advice-current

divorce

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Harjeet,

> >

> > Good analysis on the 5:9 :-)

> >

> >

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> >

> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca>

http://www.ashtro.

> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca

> >

> > _____

> >

> > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents

> > [astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents ]

> On Behalf Of harjeet

> > bakshi

> > Wednesday September 19, 2007 12:46 PM

> > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents

> > Re: need advice-current

divorce

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Ashji,

> > if in navamsa virgo asc. arises.. then in navamsa me and venus

i.e.

> > lord of 1st and 9th house is in 5:9. with 8:40 am.

> > with 9:30 saggi asc. in navamsa again sun and jupiter in 5:9 in

rasi

> > which are lord of 1st and 9th in navamsa.

> > thanks/regards

> > harjeet

> >

> > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,

> > " Ash " <kas@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Harjeet,

> > >

> > > How can 2nd lord aspect be like 6th lord. Something is wrong

> > somewhere. If

> > > you find that post let me know.

> > >

> > > 6th house is most malefic and its 12th from B = 7.

> > >

> > > Harjeet, if you just take Marriage in Ve antra being most

powerful

> > then even

> > > with 8:30 AM u will still get marriage in Ve antra.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Harjeet, please give the calculations here for computing

marriage in

> > detail

> > > using both times. This will give u good practice.

> > >

> > > I will look forward to proper calculations and that will help

all.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > >

> > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

<http://www.ashtro.ca>

> ca> ca>

> http://www.ashtro.

> > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > [astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]

> > On Behalf Of harjeet

> > > bakshi

> > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 11:59 AM

> > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > Re: need advice-current

divorce

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Ashji/Mishraji/Amir,

> > > 9:30 why cant be considered close to correct birth time ?

> > > marriage happened in the antra of E and most powerful

significator.

> > > conception and birth of child occurs in antra of jupiter

having very

> > > strong points for 5th,11th and 12th house.

> > > jupiter is having least points for 7th house. and is also lord

of 2nd

> > > house so more problems/tensions and bad result pertaining to

7th

> > > house. jupiter also aspects house A,E and D with -5 points.

> > > so result pertaining to this house is bad during its antra.

> > > somewhere in archive i think i read to look at 2nd lord's

aspect too

> > > just like 6th house..please correct me if i am wrong.

> > > again mars lord of 6th aspects house D and E.. and also

aspects lord

> > > of C. and also has low points for 7th house.

> > > so the antra of mars 2004 nov to 2005 nov must have created

problems

> > > in married life ? if Amir can comment on this.?

> > > next coming antra of saturn lord of D... early 2008 jan end or

feb..

> > > should bring better results ?

> > > Amir can you provide some information about career of your

wife.. if

> > > she dont work.. or work very hard but dont earn enough and the

> > > expenditure is too much from her side ?

> > > thanks/regards

> > > harjeet

> > >

> > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,

> > > " harjeet bakshi "

> > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Mishraji,

> > > > for husband(Amir) chart, venus is in pisces which is dual

sign.

> > > > thanks/regards

> > > > harjeet

> > > >

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,

> > > " Ash " <kas@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > > >

> > > > > Well explained with proper and concrete reasoning based on

KAS.

> > > > >

> > > > > That is the reason why I mentioned in my last line, that

the birth

> > > > time may

> > > > > still be wrong. :-)

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > >

> > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca>

> > ca> ca>

> > http://www.ashtro.

> > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca>

ca> ca>

> ca

> > > > >

> > > > > _____

> > > > >

> > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > > [astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]

> > > On Behalf Of

> > > > ramesh mishra

> > > > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 2:12 AM

> > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > > RE: Re: need advice-

current

> > > divorce

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Ash, Anup, Harjeet and all,

> > > > >

> > > > > The reasons for questioning the authenticity in the birth

time in

> > > > respect of

> > > > > his spouse are followings.

> > > > >

> > > > > 1.His wife married on 1 Jun 2002 during Ra / Ve.

Undoubtedly Ve

> > is the

> > > > > strongest significator for 7th house but there is also

combined

> > > > delay caused

> > > > > by Sa and Ju both.

> > > > >

> > > > > This delay is overcome on 29 Aug 2004 during Ra/ Mo.

> > > > >

> > > > > As per the given time marriage could have taken place in

Ma antara

> > > > who is SD

> > > > > to Mo.

> > > > >

> > > > > Ma is also 6th lord.

> > > > >

> > > > > 2. This chart indicates harmony in married life because

7th from

> > > > lagna, Su

> > > > > and Mo all are in 3:11 ratio.

> > > > >

> > > > > 3.There is no blessings in the chart.

> > > > >

> > > > > 4. Both the luminaries are aspected by Sa.

> > > > >

> > > > > 5. Ve is under the affliction of Ra/Ke

> > > > >

> > > > > 6.Ma as 6th lord is in karak sthaan of 2nd and Mo the karka

> lord of

> > > > 2nd is

> > > > > in house B for 7th. The same Mo and Ma are in 4:10

relationship in

> > > > navamsa.

> > > > >

> > > > > This may indicate the separation and then divorce.

> > > > >

> > > > > But this factor is absent in her hussband chart.

> > > > >

> > > > > 7. 7th lord Ve is in dual sign indicating the second

marriage.

> This

> > > > is not

> > > > > present in her husband chart.

> > > > >

> > > > > I thought these may be the reason which does not tally

with her

> > > husband

> > > > > chart.

> > > > >

> > > > > This may be due to wrong birth time.

> > > > >

> > > > > When you change the time as 9:36 AM then also nothing

changes

> except

> > > > > navamsa.

> > > > >

> > > > > You may correct me if I am wrong anywhere.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > >

> > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > >

> > > > > Ash <kas@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Here if you cast the chart of the natives wife with the

given time

> > > > of 8:30

> > > > > am, marriage happens in the highest power planet of Venus,

and yet

> > > > Ramesh

> > > > > and I both questioned the time of birth.

> > > > >

> > > > > And it turns out that the birth certificate time is of

9:32 AM

> which

> > > > is more

> > > > > than 1 hour difference. Even still the birth time might be

wrong.

> > > > >

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > >

> > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca/>

> > ca/> ca/>

> > > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> ca

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > _____

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > > [astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]

> > > On Behalf Of Ash

> > > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 10:38 PM

> > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > > RE: Re: need advice-

current

> > > divorce

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Harjeet and All,

> > > > >

> > > > > Here the native has blessing if this chart is accurate.

Most

> of the

> > > > points

> > > > > are less in 7th house so results are showing.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now, 6th lord is Saturn and its with 3 bindus in 10th

house. So

> > > > from there

> > > > > he aspects 7th i.e LoB, House E, House D, LoA and LoC in

Navamsa.

> > > > So here

> > > > > results are more severe.

> > > > >

> > > > > Here for Quality, remove -5 points from 12th, 7th and 4th

and from

> > > > Mercury

> > > > > and sun as well for quality i.e. 5 points more to offset

bad

> effects

> > > > of 6th

> > > > > lord.

> > > > >

> > > > > So only Moon is good for timing and quality.

> > > > >

> > > > > From lagna, sun, mo, ve and Ma all are in 4:10, 2:12, 4:10,

> 3:11 and

> > > > 2:12.

> > > > >

> > > > > Lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 in navamsa.

> > > > >

> > > > > As you have said, there is full delay of Sa for 27 years

and then

> > > of Ju

> > > > > after that. So marriage can happen in Rahu who is SD to

6th lord

> > > > and 7th

> > > > > lord Sa and Mo.

> > > > >

> > > > > After marriage, antra running have been of Ju who has less

> power in

> > > > 7th, and

> > > > > then after that Mercury who is 2nd lord and less power in

7th

> > house.

> > > > >

> > > > > Child birth in Sa antra who is SD to Ve the strongest

significator

> > > > for 5th

> > > > > house and Sa is NSD to Ve.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now the native is running Ketu antra and Ketu is in House E

> for 7th

> > > > as B and

> > > > > SD to Mo so again strong feelings are there and at the same

> time its

> > > > SD to

> > > > > Sa as well so again it can't give full happiness.

> > > > >

> > > > > After that again the antras are not strong for 7th house,

sun

> has 12

> > > > points

> > > > > but again its aspected by Sa so quality is still poor.

> > > > >

> > > > > My suggestion in this case would be to try to reconcile

with his

> > > > wife and to

> > > > > use the power of blessing. Try to let bygones be bygones

and start

> > > > afresh

> > > > > for the child.

> > > > >

> > > > > The native will have to do a lot of adjustment.

> > > > >

> > > > > Otherwise it's very difficult.

> > > > >

> > > > > On another note, just recently I gave the discussion that

> Krushnaji

> > > > gave on

> > > > > accepting time as given. Here this gentleman's wife's

chart is a

> > > prime

> > > > > candidate on how data can be wrong and using KAS it can be

pointed

> > > out.

> > > > > Ramesh also pointed out the improper time of his wife and

so

> did I.

> > > > >

> > > > > Actually this is based on concrete calculations and just

accepting

> > > > the time

> > > > > given as correct is not always proper. Unless one takes

proper

> > > > effort to

> > > > > tally events and makes sure that things are fitting right

or even

> > > in the

> > > > > ball park.

> > > > >

> > > > > I will leave it to Ramesh to show and demonstrate the

reason on

> > why he

> > > > > questioned the authenticity of birth time.

> > > > >

> > > > > Sometimes, people also change the dates and that I have

personally

> > > > > experienced. In any case, one thing is clear, that if the

birth

> > > time is

> > > > > accurate then all the events of life will fall in place.

> > > > >

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > >

> > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca/>

> > ca/> ca/>

> > > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> ca

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > _____

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > > [astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]

> > > On Behalf Of harjeet

> > > > > bakshi

> > > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 9:07 PM

> > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > > Re: need advice-current

> divorce

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Amir,

> > > > > i am just learning KAS...

> > > > >

> > > > > taking marriage 5 years ago.. might have happened in the

antra

> > of rahu

> > > > > samdhari to saturn lord of 6th and is situated in 6th

house.

> > > > > now antra of ketu samdhari to moon which is having highest

> point for

> > > > > 7th house and situated in D... so chances of marriage to

break(i

> > dont

> > > > > wish so.. but thats the law given in lesson).. but again

rahu is

> > also

> > > > > samdhari to moon which has highest points for 7th house.

> > > > > Ashji please guide on this one..

> > > > > i think the result of marriage is spoiled because rahu

being

> > samdhari

> > > > > to 6th lord saturn gave marriage.

> > > > > also 6th lord saturn has sight on B,D and E so marriage is

bad...

> > > > > result might be felt specially in the antra of saturn...

2004

> sep to

> > > > > 2006 apr.

> > > > > also during this antra gave bad results for house 4th and

7th

> aswell

> > > > > as 6th being in less points and 4th from sun and mercury.

> > > > > venus is in dual sign in both rasi(also aspecting 2nd house

> with -5

> > > > > points) and navamsa.. chances of 2 marriages.

> > > > > sun in 7th house.

> > > > > moon aspected by ketu in navamsa and with mars in rasi..

might

> cause

> > > > > you to take hasty steps.

> > > > > cant go more as out of time..

> > > > > try to put efforts to pursue your goal. one point

irrespective of

> > > > > birth time in your wife's chart is that your rahu and

saturn

> aspects

> > > > > her mars based on sign overlapping. so there would be

strong

> > > > > attraction between the couple... this might be the positive

> factor.

> > > > > thanks/regards

> > > > > harjeet

> > > > >

> > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > > > <%40>

> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,

> > > > > jay shanders

> > > > > <phillyanyone@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Mr. ramesh

> > > > > > how are you?/

> > > > > > thank you so much for your reply

> > > > > > as i am always gratful for all your help and i dont mean

to give

> > > > > you a hard time its just i depend on you so much for

advice and

> > > > > prediction as to my current divorce proceeding

> > > > > > my wife has told me her birth time is 8:30 AM but i have

a

> copy of

> > > > > her indian birth certificate and on there it has 9:36 AM

so i

> > honestly

> > > > > dont know which one is for real as i cant even ask her

right

> > now. can

> > > > > you use both and see what results you get. as using the

8:30

> AM you

> > > > > have said that there is no divorce now or future, does

that still

> > > > > hold. i just want to know that even though iam going

through the

> > > > > divorce proceeding should i really worry as will it go

through

> > and us

> > > > > divorce or will it Not happen and we stay married. my birth

> time is

> > > > > accurate so do i have divorce and 2nd marriage in my

chart ???? i

> > > > > just want to know over all if me and my wife will have a

long

> > lasting

> > > > > marriage ??

> > > > > >

> > > > > > please help me in any way possible as you are helping a

person

> > > > > save his marriage and thus i have a daughter that i worry

so much

> > > > > about. any further information as to my chart will be

> appreciated??

> > > > > > thank you

> > > > > > amir

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Amir,

> > > > > > Please read my all mails sincerely.You will find all

> > > > > > your answers.

> > > > > > I had asked you before also the correctness of

> > > > > > birthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked you same

> > > > > > data.

> > > > > > Unless the birthtime is authenticated, all efforts

> > > > > > will be useless.

> > > > > > This I have already pointed you out.I think now you

> > > > > > understand it.

> > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- jay shanders <phillyanyone@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > > > > > namaste

> > > > > > > iam not confused as you have told me in last email

> > > > > > > that there is No divorce nor or future.

> > > > > > > iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for

> > > > > > > consults and you have beening gicing me

> > > > > > > predictions. so are you now saying that we will

> > > > > > > divorce now with likely chances of reunion in feb???

> > > > > > > so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce occur

> > > > > > > there will not be any chances of reunion since i

> > > > > > > cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would she

> > > > > > > reunite with me after it ??

> > > > > > > thank you

> > > > > > > amir

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear Amir,

> > > > > > > Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in

> > > > > > > the month of Feb/2008.

> > > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > phillyanyone <phillyanyone@> wrote:

> > > > > > > NAMASTE

> > > > > > > Dear Guruji

> > > > > > > Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated from my

> > > > > > > wife and daughter

> > > > > > > since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce

> > > > > > > proceeding status.

> > > > > > > because of many problems between my wife and her

> > > > > > > controling parents

> > > > > > > who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for

> > > > > > > divorce becase of

> > > > > > > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of

> > > > > > > weeks going by, i

> > > > > > > wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our

> > > > > > > marriage and she too

> > > > > > > wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now

> > > > > > > her parents are

> > > > > > > totally against her coming back and saving our

> > > > > > > marriage. my wife does

> > > > > > > not want to go aginst her parents and come back to

> > > > > > > me so she says

> > > > > > > thats it better to divorce and not work anything

> > > > > > > else. i have tried

> > > > > > > hard to convince her but nothing. we have been

> > > > > > > married for 5 years,

> > > > > > > on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on september

> > > > > > > 8, 2006. i have

> > > > > > > been told by many astrologer that neither have

> > > > > > > divorce or 2nd

> > > > > > > marriage so why iam I current in divorce status and

> > > > > > > will my marriage

> > > > > > > survive this current divorce status and me and my

> > > > > > > wfie getting back

> > > > > > > together. please advice as i need all the advice and

> > > > > > > help i can get

> > > > > > > to save my marriage and input as to what wil happen

> > > > > > > as to my marriage-

> > > > > > > divorce or us reuniting????

> > > > > > > thank you

> > > > > > > God bless

> > > > > > > amir

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > amir patel

> > > > > > > biodata-

> > > > > > > february 19, 1972, 7:15 PM, ahmadabad, india

> > > > > > >

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Dear Ash, Rmesh and Harjeet, Sorry this went with wrong subject. Anyhow i am repeating again, As far as i know from archives and some charts,The 6th lord being LoD can not do harm to 9th house. Regards Anupaarceemastro2002 <aarceemastro2002 wrote: Dear Ash and Harjeet,Ma is lagna and 6th lord occupy 9th house.Ma is LoC for 9th and LoD for 4th occupy house E for 4th.Ma is in house D for 12th and its LoD Mo is in karaksthaan for 12th.There is inter relationship of 9th, 4th,1st and 12th house.What about his father?Ash ! Is my approach correct ?Thanks and regards.Ramesh Mishra , "Ash" <kas wrote:>> No Harjeet,> > > > Think more on it. Krushnaji has told in short. Study carefully, lagna and> 9th we see so here Ma is in 9th house .. what is special? Why it did not> spoil ?> > > > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca>

> _____ > > > On Behalf Of harjeet> bakshi> Wednesday September 19, 2007 3:10 PM> > Re: need advice-current divorce> > > > Dear Ashji,> although 6th house is D for 9th house.. but its for all lagna.> for scorpio lagna moon is lord of 9th which is nsd to mars 6th lord..> may be thats the reason.. thats what i can come up with .> thanks/regards> harjeet> > astrologyandtiminge>

<%40> vents ,> "Ash" <kas@> wrote:> >> > Dear Harjeet, Anup, Ramesh and all,> > > > > > > > Here Ma is in 9th house who is lord of 6th house so why wouldn't it> spoil> > 9th house results?> > > > What is special about this lagna?> > > > What other lagna would this be applicable to and why?> > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> http://www.ashtro.> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > > _____ > >

> > astrologyandtiminge> <%40> vents > > [astrologyandtiminge> <%40> vents ]> On Behalf Of Ash> > Wednesday September 19, 2007 1:23 PM> > astrologyandtiminge> <%40> vents > > RE: Re: need advice-current divorce> > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet,> > > > Good analysis on the 5:9 :-)> > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > >

Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> http://www.ashtro.> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > > _____ > > > > astrologyandtiminge> <%40> vents > > [astrologyandtiminge> <%40> vents ]> On Behalf Of harjeet> > bakshi> > Wednesday September 19, 2007 12:46 PM> > astrologyandtiminge> <%40> vents > > Re: need advice-current divorce> > > > > > > > Dear Ashji,> > if in navamsa virgo asc. arises.. then in navamsa me and venus i.e.> > lord of 1st and 9th house is in 5:9. with 8:40 am.> > with 9:30 saggi asc. in navamsa again sun and jupiter in 5:9 in rasi> > which are lord of 1st and 9th in navamsa.> > thanks/regards> > harjeet> > > > astrologyandtiminge> > <%40>> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,> > "Ash" <kas@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Harjeet,> > > > > > How can 2nd lord aspect be like 6th lord. Something is wrong> >

somewhere. If> > > you find that post let me know. > > > > > > 6th house is most malefic and its 12th from B = 7.> > > > > > Harjeet, if you just take Marriage in Ve antra being most powerful> > then even> > > with 8:30 AM u will still get marriage in Ve antra.> > > > > > > > > > > > Harjeet, please give the calculations here for computing marriage in> > detail> > > using both times. This will give u good practice.> > > > > > I will look forward to proper calculations and that will help all.> > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca>> ca> ca>> http://www.ashtro.> > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> > > > > > _____ > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge> > <%40>> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com> > > [astrologyandtiminge> > <%40>> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]> > On Behalf Of harjeet> > > bakshi> > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 11:59 AM> > > astrologyandtiminge> >

<%40>> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com> > > Re: need advice-current divorce> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ashji/Mishraji/Amir,> > > 9:30 why cant be considered close to correct birth time ?> > > marriage happened in the antra of E and most powerful significator.> > > conception and birth of child occurs in antra of jupiter having very> > > strong points for 5th,11th and 12th house.> > > jupiter is having least points for 7th house. and is also lord of 2nd> > > house so more problems/tensions and bad result pertaining to 7th> > > house. jupiter also aspects house A,E and D with -5 points.> > > so result pertaining to this house is

bad during its antra.> > > somewhere in archive i think i read to look at 2nd lord's aspect too> > > just like 6th house..please correct me if i am wrong.> > > again mars lord of 6th aspects house D and E.. and also aspects lord> > > of C. and also has low points for 7th house.> > > so the antra of mars 2004 nov to 2005 nov must have created problems> > > in married life ? if Amir can comment on this.?> > > next coming antra of saturn lord of D... early 2008 jan end or feb..> > > should bring better results ?> > > Amir can you provide some information about career of your wife.. if> > > she dont work.. or work very hard but dont earn enough and the> > > expenditure is too much from her side ?> > > thanks/regards> > > harjeet> > > > > > --- In

astrologyandtiminge> > > <%40>> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,> > > "harjeet bakshi"> > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Mishraji,> > > > for husband(Amir) chart, venus is in pisces which is dual sign.> > > > thanks/regards> > > > harjeet> > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge> > > <%40>> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,> > > "Ash" <kas@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Ramesh,> > > > > > > > > > Well explained with proper and concrete reasoning based on

KAS.> > > > > > > > > > That is the reason why I mentioned in my last line, that the birth> > > > time may> > > > > still be wrong. :-)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca>> > ca> ca>> > http://www.ashtro.> > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca>>

ca> > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge> > > <%40>> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com> > > > > [astrologyandtiminge> > > <%40>> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]> > > On Behalf Of> > > > ramesh mishra> > > > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 2:12 AM> > > > > astrologyandtiminge> > > <%40>> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com> > > > > RE:

Re: need advice-current> > > divorce> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, Anup, Harjeet and all,> > > > > > > > > > The reasons for questioning the authenticity in the birth time in> > > > respect of> > > > > his spouse are followings.> > > > > > > > > > 1.His wife married on 1 Jun 2002 during Ra / Ve. Undoubtedly Ve> > is the> > > > > strongest significator for 7th house but there is also combined> > > > delay caused> > > > > by Sa and Ju both.> > > > > > > > > > This delay is overcome on 29 Aug 2004 during Ra/ Mo.> > > > > > > > > > As per the given time marriage could have

taken place in Ma antara> > > > who is SD> > > > > to Mo.> > > > > > > > > > Ma is also 6th lord.> > > > > > > > > > 2. This chart indicates harmony in married life because 7th from> > > > lagna, Su> > > > > and Mo all are in 3:11 ratio.> > > > > > > > > > 3.There is no blessings in the chart.> > > > > > > > > > 4. Both the luminaries are aspected by Sa.> > > > > > > > > > 5. Ve is under the affliction of Ra/Ke > > > > > > > > > > 6.Ma as 6th lord is in karak sthaan of 2nd and Mo the karka> lord of> > > > 2nd is> > > > > in house B for 7th. The same Mo and Ma are in 4:10 relationship in> > > > navamsa.>

> > > > > > > > > This may indicate the separation and then divorce.> > > > > > > > > > But this factor is absent in her hussband chart.> > > > > > > > > > 7. 7th lord Ve is in dual sign indicating the second marriage.> This> > > > is not> > > > > present in her husband chart.> > > > > > > > > > I thought these may be the reason which does not tally with her> > > husband> > > > > chart.> > > > > > > > > > This may be due to wrong birth time.> > > > > > > > > > When you change the time as 9:36 AM then also nothing changes> except> > > > > navamsa.> > > > > > > > > > You may correct me if I am wrong

anywhere.> > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > > > > > > Ash <kas@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > Here if you cast the chart of the natives wife with the given time> > > > of 8:30> > > > > am, marriage happens in the highest power planet of Venus, and yet> > > > Ramesh> > > > > and I both questioned the time of birth.> > > > > > > > > > And it turns out that the birth certificate time is of 9:32 AM> which> > > > is more> > > > > than 1 hour difference. Even still the birth time might be wrong.> > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > > > > >

Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca/>> > ca/> ca/>> > > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> ca> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge> > > <%40>> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com> > > > >

[astrologyandtiminge> > > <%40>> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]> > > On Behalf Of Ash> > > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 10:38 PM> > > > > astrologyandtiminge> > > <%40>> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com> > > > > RE: Re: need advice-current> > > divorce> > > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet and All, > > > > > > > > > > Here the native has blessing if this chart is accurate. Most> of the> > > > points> > > > > are less in 7th house so results are

showing.> > > > > > > > > > Now, 6th lord is Saturn and its with 3 bindus in 10th house. So> > > > from there> > > > > he aspects 7th i.e LoB, House E, House D, LoA and LoC in Navamsa. > > > > So here> > > > > results are more severe. > > > > > > > > > > Here for Quality, remove -5 points from 12th, 7th and 4th and from> > > > Mercury> > > > > and sun as well for quality i.e. 5 points more to offset bad> effects> > > > of 6th> > > > > lord. > > > > > > > > > > So only Moon is good for timing and quality. > > > > > > > > > > From lagna, sun, mo, ve and Ma all are in 4:10, 2:12, 4:10,> 3:11 and> > > > 2:12. > > > > >

> > > > > Lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 in navamsa. > > > > > > > > > > As you have said, there is full delay of Sa for 27 years and then> > > of Ju> > > > > after that. So marriage can happen in Rahu who is SD to 6th lord> > > > and 7th> > > > > lord Sa and Mo. > > > > > > > > > > After marriage, antra running have been of Ju who has less> power in> > > > 7th, and> > > > > then after that Mercury who is 2nd lord and less power in 7th> > house. > > > > > > > > > > Child birth in Sa antra who is SD to Ve the strongest significator> > > > for 5th> > > > > house and Sa is NSD to Ve.> > > > > > > > > > Now the native is running Ketu antra

and Ketu is in House E> for 7th> > > > as B and> > > > > SD to Mo so again strong feelings are there and at the same> time its> > > > SD to> > > > > Sa as well so again it can't give full happiness.> > > > > > > > > > After that again the antras are not strong for 7th house, sun> has 12> > > > points> > > > > but again its aspected by Sa so quality is still poor. > > > > > > > > > > My suggestion in this case would be to try to reconcile with his> > > > wife and to> > > > > use the power of blessing. Try to let bygones be bygones and start> > > > afresh> > > > > for the child.> > > > > > > > > > The native will have to do a lot of adjustment.> >

> > > > > > > > Otherwise it's very difficult.> > > > > > > > > > On another note, just recently I gave the discussion that> Krushnaji> > > > gave on> > > > > accepting time as given. Here this gentleman's wife's chart is a> > > prime> > > > > candidate on how data can be wrong and using KAS it can be pointed> > > out.> > > > > Ramesh also pointed out the improper time of his wife and so> did I. > > > > > > > > > > Actually this is based on concrete calculations and just accepting> > > > the time> > > > > given as correct is not always proper. Unless one takes proper> > > > effort to> > > > > tally events and makes sure that things are fitting right or even>

> > in the> > > > > ball park.> > > > > > > > > > I will leave it to Ramesh to show and demonstrate the reason on> > why he> > > > > questioned the authenticity of birth time.> > > > > > > > > > Sometimes, people also change the dates and that I have personally> > > > > experienced. In any case, one thing is clear, that if the birth> > > time is> > > > > accurate then all the events of life will fall in place. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca/>> > ca/> ca/>> > > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> ca> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge> > > <%40>> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com> > > > > [astrologyandtiminge> > > <%40>> > vents (AT) (DOT)

<vents%40> com]> > > On Behalf Of harjeet> > > > > bakshi> > > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 9:07 PM> > > > > astrologyandtiminge> > > <%40>> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com> > > > > Re: need advice-current> divorce> > > > > > > > > > Dear Amir,> > > > > i am just learning KAS...> > > > > > > > > > taking marriage 5 years ago.. might have happened in the antra> > of rahu> > > > > samdhari to saturn lord of 6th and is situated in 6th house.> > > > > now antra of ketu samdhari to moon which is having

highest> point for> > > > > 7th house and situated in D... so chances of marriage to break(i> > dont> > > > > wish so.. but thats the law given in lesson).. but again rahu is> > also> > > > > samdhari to moon which has highest points for 7th house.> > > > > Ashji please guide on this one..> > > > > i think the result of marriage is spoiled because rahu being> > samdhari> > > > > to 6th lord saturn gave marriage.> > > > > also 6th lord saturn has sight on B,D and E so marriage is bad...> > > > > result might be felt specially in the antra of saturn... 2004> sep to> > > > > 2006 apr.> > > > > also during this antra gave bad results for house 4th and 7th> aswell> > > > > as 6th being in less

points and 4th from sun and mercury.> > > > > venus is in dual sign in both rasi(also aspecting 2nd house> with -5> > > > > points) and navamsa.. chances of 2 marriages.> > > > > sun in 7th house.> > > > > moon aspected by ketu in navamsa and with mars in rasi.. might> cause> > > > > you to take hasty steps.> > > > > cant go more as out of time..> > > > > try to put efforts to pursue your goal. one point irrespective of> > > > > birth time in your wife's chart is that your rahu and saturn> aspects> > > > > her mars based on sign overlapping. so there would be strong> > > > > attraction between the couple... this might be the positive> factor.> > > > > thanks/regards> > > > > harjeet> > > >

> > > > > > astrologyandtiminge> > > > > <%40>> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,> > > > > jay shanders> > > > > <phillyanyone@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Mr. ramesh> > > > > > how are you?/> > > > > > thank you so much for your reply> > > > > > as i am always gratful for all your help and i dont mean to give> > > > > you a hard time its just i depend on you so much for advice and> > > > > prediction as to my current divorce proceeding> > > > > > my wife has told me her birth time is 8:30 AM but i have a> copy of> > > > > her indian birth

certificate and on there it has 9:36 AM so i> > honestly> > > > > dont know which one is for real as i cant even ask her right> > now. can> > > > > you use both and see what results you get. as using the 8:30> AM you> > > > > have said that there is no divorce now or future, does that still> > > > > hold. i just want to know that even though iam going through the> > > > > divorce proceeding should i really worry as will it go through> > and us> > > > > divorce or will it Not happen and we stay married. my birth> time is> > > > > accurate so do i have divorce and 2nd marriage in my chart ???? i> > > > > just want to know over all if me and my wife will have a long> > lasting> > > > > marriage ??> > > >

> > > > > > > > please help me in any way possible as you are helping a person> > > > > save his marriage and thus i have a daughter that i worry so much> > > > > about. any further information as to my chart will be> appreciated??> > > > > > thank you> > > > > > amir> > > > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:> > > > > > Dear Amir,> > > > > > Please read my all mails sincerely.You will find all> > > > > > your answers.> > > > > > I had asked you before also the correctness of> > > > > > birthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked you same> > > > > > data.> > > > > > Unless the birthtime is authenticated, all

efforts> > > > > > will be useless.> > > > > > This I have already pointed you out.I think now you> > > > > > understand it.> > > > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > > > > > > > > --- jay shanders <phillyanyone@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh,> > > > > > > namaste> > > > > > > iam not confused as you have told me in last email> > > > > > > that there is No divorce nor or future.> > > > > > > iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for> > > > > > > consults and you have beening gicing me > > > > > > > predictions. so are you now saying that we will> > > > > > > divorce now with likely chances of reunion

in feb???> > > > > > > so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce occur> > > > > > > there will not be any chances of reunion since i> > > > > > > cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would she> > > > > > > reunite with me after it ??> > > > > > > thank you> > > > > > > amir> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:> > > > > > > Dear Amir,> > > > > > > Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in> > > > > > > the month of Feb/2008.> > > > > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > > > > > > > > > > phillyanyone <phillyanyone@>

wrote:> > > > > > > NAMASTE> > > > > > > Dear Guruji> > > > > > > Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated from my> > > > > > > wife and daughter > > > > > > > since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce> > > > > > > proceeding status. > > > > > > > because of many problems between my wife and her> > > > > > > controling parents > > > > > > > who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for> > > > > > > divorce becase of > > > > > > > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of> > > > > > > weeks going by, i > > > > > > > wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our> > > > > > > marriage and she too > >

> > > > > wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now> > > > > > > her parents are > > > > > > > totally against her coming back and saving our> > > > > > > marriage. my wife does > > > > > > > not want to go aginst her parents and come back to> > > > > > > me so she says > > > > > > > thats it better to divorce and not work anything> > > > > > > else. i have tried > > > > > > > hard to convince her but nothing. we have been> > > > > > > married for 5 years, > > > > > > > on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on september> > > > > > > 8, 2006. i have > > > > > > > been told by many astrologer that neither have> > > > > > > divorce

or 2nd > > > > > > > marriage so why iam I current in divorce status and> > > > > > > will my marriage > > > > > > > survive this current divorce status and me and my> > > > > > > wfie getting back > > > > > > > together. please advice as i need all the advice and> > > > > > > help i can get > > > > > > > to save my marriage and input as to what wil happen> > > > > > > as to my marriage-> > > > > > > divorce or us reuniting???? > > > > > > > thank you> > > > > > > God bless> > > > > > > amir> > > > > > > > > > > > > > amir patel> > > > > > > biodata-> > > > > > > february 19,

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NAMASTE Dear fellow members, I read all the analyze of our charts so can anyoone explain to me what this all mean over all in a nutshell. i understand that my wifes birth time may not be accurate so her life events may not be predicted but my birth time ia accurate so please can anyone give me myfuture life events as to my current marriage situation and any other future events. thank you so much amiraarceemastro2002 <aarceemastro2002 wrote: Dear Ash and Harjeet,Ma is

lagna and 6th lord occupy 9th house.Ma is LoC for 9th and LoD for 4th occupy house E for 4th.Ma is in house D for 12th and its LoD Mo is in karaksthaan for 12th.There is inter relationship of 9th, 4th,1st and 12th house.What about his father?Ash ! Is my approach correct ?Thanks and regards.Ramesh Mishra , "Ash" <kas wrote:>> No Harjeet,> > > > Think more on it. Krushnaji has told in short. Study carefully, lagna and> 9th we see so here Ma is in 9th house .. what is special? Why it did not> spoil ?> > > > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca> > _____ > >

> On Behalf Of harjeet> bakshi> Wednesday September 19, 2007 3:10 PM> > Re: need advice-current divorce> > > > Dear Ashji,> although 6th house is D for 9th house.. but its for all lagna.> for scorpio lagna moon is lord of 9th which is nsd to mars 6th lord..> may be thats the reason.. thats what i can come up with .> thanks/regards> harjeet> > astrologyandtiminge> <%40> vents ,> "Ash" <kas@> wrote:> >> > Dear Harjeet, Anup, Ramesh and all,> > > > > > > > Here Ma is in 9th house who is lord of 6th house so why wouldn't it> spoil> > 9th house results?> > > > What is special about this lagna?> > > > What other lagna would this be applicable to and why?> > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> http://www.ashtro.> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > > _____ > > > > astrologyandtiminge>

<%40> vents > > [astrologyandtiminge> <%40> vents ]> On Behalf Of Ash> > Wednesday September 19, 2007 1:23 PM> > astrologyandtiminge> <%40> vents > > RE: Re: need advice-current divorce> > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet,> > > > Good analysis on the 5:9 :-)> > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> http://www.ashtro.> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > > _____ > > > > astrologyandtiminge> <%40> vents > > [astrologyandtiminge> <%40> vents ]> On Behalf Of harjeet> > bakshi> > Wednesday September 19, 2007 12:46 PM> > astrologyandtiminge> <%40> vents > > Re: need advice-current divorce> > > > > > > > Dear Ashji,> > if in navamsa virgo asc. arises.. then in navamsa me and venus i.e.> > lord of 1st and 9th house is in 5:9. with 8:40 am.> > with 9:30 saggi asc. in navamsa again sun and jupiter in 5:9 in rasi> > which are lord of 1st and 9th in navamsa.> > thanks/regards> > harjeet> > > > astrologyandtiminge> > <%40>> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,> > "Ash" <kas@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Harjeet,> > > > > > How can 2nd lord aspect be like 6th lord. Something is wrong> >

somewhere. If> > > you find that post let me know. > > > > > > 6th house is most malefic and its 12th from B = 7.> > > > > > Harjeet, if you just take Marriage in Ve antra being most powerful> > then even> > > with 8:30 AM u will still get marriage in Ve antra.> > > > > > > > > > > > Harjeet, please give the calculations here for computing marriage in> > detail> > > using both times. This will give u good practice.> > > > > > I will look forward to proper calculations and that will help all.> > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca>> ca> ca>> http://www.ashtro.> > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> > > > > > _____ > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge> > <%40>> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com> > > [astrologyandtiminge> > <%40>> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]> > On Behalf Of harjeet> > > bakshi> > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 11:59 AM> > > astrologyandtiminge> >

<%40>> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com> > > Re: need advice-current divorce> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ashji/Mishraji/Amir,> > > 9:30 why cant be considered close to correct birth time ?> > > marriage happened in the antra of E and most powerful significator.> > > conception and birth of child occurs in antra of jupiter having very> > > strong points for 5th,11th and 12th house.> > > jupiter is having least points for 7th house. and is also lord of 2nd> > > house so more problems/tensions and bad result pertaining to 7th> > > house. jupiter also aspects house A,E and D with -5 points.> > > so result pertaining to this house is

bad during its antra.> > > somewhere in archive i think i read to look at 2nd lord's aspect too> > > just like 6th house..please correct me if i am wrong.> > > again mars lord of 6th aspects house D and E.. and also aspects lord> > > of C. and also has low points for 7th house.> > > so the antra of mars 2004 nov to 2005 nov must have created problems> > > in married life ? if Amir can comment on this.?> > > next coming antra of saturn lord of D... early 2008 jan end or feb..> > > should bring better results ?> > > Amir can you provide some information about career of your wife.. if> > > she dont work.. or work very hard but dont earn enough and the> > > expenditure is too much from her side ?> > > thanks/regards> > > harjeet> > > > > > --- In

astrologyandtiminge> > > <%40>> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,> > > "harjeet bakshi"> > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Mishraji,> > > > for husband(Amir) chart, venus is in pisces which is dual sign.> > > > thanks/regards> > > > harjeet> > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge> > > <%40>> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,> > > "Ash" <kas@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Ramesh,> > > > > > > > > > Well explained with proper and concrete reasoning based on

KAS.> > > > > > > > > > That is the reason why I mentioned in my last line, that the birth> > > > time may> > > > > still be wrong. :-)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca>> > ca> ca>> > http://www.ashtro.> > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca>>

ca> > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge> > > <%40>> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com> > > > > [astrologyandtiminge> > > <%40>> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]> > > On Behalf Of> > > > ramesh mishra> > > > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 2:12 AM> > > > > astrologyandtiminge> > > <%40>> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com> > > > > RE:

Re: need advice-current> > > divorce> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, Anup, Harjeet and all,> > > > > > > > > > The reasons for questioning the authenticity in the birth time in> > > > respect of> > > > > his spouse are followings.> > > > > > > > > > 1.His wife married on 1 Jun 2002 during Ra / Ve. Undoubtedly Ve> > is the> > > > > strongest significator for 7th house but there is also combined> > > > delay caused> > > > > by Sa and Ju both.> > > > > > > > > > This delay is overcome on 29 Aug 2004 during Ra/ Mo.> > > > > > > > > > As per the given time marriage could have

taken place in Ma antara> > > > who is SD> > > > > to Mo.> > > > > > > > > > Ma is also 6th lord.> > > > > > > > > > 2. This chart indicates harmony in married life because 7th from> > > > lagna, Su> > > > > and Mo all are in 3:11 ratio.> > > > > > > > > > 3.There is no blessings in the chart.> > > > > > > > > > 4. Both the luminaries are aspected by Sa.> > > > > > > > > > 5. Ve is under the affliction of Ra/Ke > > > > > > > > > > 6.Ma as 6th lord is in karak sthaan of 2nd and Mo the karka> lord of> > > > 2nd is> > > > > in house B for 7th. The same Mo and Ma are in 4:10 relationship in> > > > navamsa.>

> > > > > > > > > This may indicate the separation and then divorce.> > > > > > > > > > But this factor is absent in her hussband chart.> > > > > > > > > > 7. 7th lord Ve is in dual sign indicating the second marriage.> This> > > > is not> > > > > present in her husband chart.> > > > > > > > > > I thought these may be the reason which does not tally with her> > > husband> > > > > chart.> > > > > > > > > > This may be due to wrong birth time.> > > > > > > > > > When you change the time as 9:36 AM then also nothing changes> except> > > > > navamsa.> > > > > > > > > > You may correct me if I am wrong

anywhere.> > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > > > > > > Ash <kas@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > Here if you cast the chart of the natives wife with the given time> > > > of 8:30> > > > > am, marriage happens in the highest power planet of Venus, and yet> > > > Ramesh> > > > > and I both questioned the time of birth.> > > > > > > > > > And it turns out that the birth certificate time is of 9:32 AM> which> > > > is more> > > > > than 1 hour difference. Even still the birth time might be wrong.> > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > > > > >

Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca/>> > ca/> ca/>> > > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> ca> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge> > > <%40>> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com> > > > >

[astrologyandtiminge> > > <%40>> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]> > > On Behalf Of Ash> > > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 10:38 PM> > > > > astrologyandtiminge> > > <%40>> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com> > > > > RE: Re: need advice-current> > > divorce> > > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet and All, > > > > > > > > > > Here the native has blessing if this chart is accurate. Most> of the> > > > points> > > > > are less in 7th house so results are

showing.> > > > > > > > > > Now, 6th lord is Saturn and its with 3 bindus in 10th house. So> > > > from there> > > > > he aspects 7th i.e LoB, House E, House D, LoA and LoC in Navamsa. > > > > So here> > > > > results are more severe. > > > > > > > > > > Here for Quality, remove -5 points from 12th, 7th and 4th and from> > > > Mercury> > > > > and sun as well for quality i.e. 5 points more to offset bad> effects> > > > of 6th> > > > > lord. > > > > > > > > > > So only Moon is good for timing and quality. > > > > > > > > > > From lagna, sun, mo, ve and Ma all are in 4:10, 2:12, 4:10,> 3:11 and> > > > 2:12. > > > > >

> > > > > Lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 in navamsa. > > > > > > > > > > As you have said, there is full delay of Sa for 27 years and then> > > of Ju> > > > > after that. So marriage can happen in Rahu who is SD to 6th lord> > > > and 7th> > > > > lord Sa and Mo. > > > > > > > > > > After marriage, antra running have been of Ju who has less> power in> > > > 7th, and> > > > > then after that Mercury who is 2nd lord and less power in 7th> > house. > > > > > > > > > > Child birth in Sa antra who is SD to Ve the strongest significator> > > > for 5th> > > > > house and Sa is NSD to Ve.> > > > > > > > > > Now the native is running Ketu antra

and Ketu is in House E> for 7th> > > > as B and> > > > > SD to Mo so again strong feelings are there and at the same> time its> > > > SD to> > > > > Sa as well so again it can't give full happiness.> > > > > > > > > > After that again the antras are not strong for 7th house, sun> has 12> > > > points> > > > > but again its aspected by Sa so quality is still poor. > > > > > > > > > > My suggestion in this case would be to try to reconcile with his> > > > wife and to> > > > > use the power of blessing. Try to let bygones be bygones and start> > > > afresh> > > > > for the child.> > > > > > > > > > The native will have to do a lot of adjustment.> >

> > > > > > > > Otherwise it's very difficult.> > > > > > > > > > On another note, just recently I gave the discussion that> Krushnaji> > > > gave on> > > > > accepting time as given. Here this gentleman's wife's chart is a> > > prime> > > > > candidate on how data can be wrong and using KAS it can be pointed> > > out.> > > > > Ramesh also pointed out the improper time of his wife and so> did I. > > > > > > > > > > Actually this is based on concrete calculations and just accepting> > > > the time> > > > > given as correct is not always proper. Unless one takes proper> > > > effort to> > > > > tally events and makes sure that things are fitting right or even>

> > in the> > > > > ball park.> > > > > > > > > > I will leave it to Ramesh to show and demonstrate the reason on> > why he> > > > > questioned the authenticity of birth time.> > > > > > > > > > Sometimes, people also change the dates and that I have personally> > > > > experienced. In any case, one thing is clear, that if the birth> > > time is> > > > > accurate then all the events of life will fall in place. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca/>> > ca/> ca/>> > > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> ca> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge> > > <%40>> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com> > > > > [astrologyandtiminge> > > <%40>> > vents (AT) (DOT)

<vents%40> com]> > > On Behalf Of harjeet> > > > > bakshi> > > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 9:07 PM> > > > > astrologyandtiminge> > > <%40>> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com> > > > > Re: need advice-current> divorce> > > > > > > > > > Dear Amir,> > > > > i am just learning KAS...> > > > > > > > > > taking marriage 5 years ago.. might have happened in the antra> > of rahu> > > > > samdhari to saturn lord of 6th and is situated in 6th house.> > > > > now antra of ketu samdhari to moon which is having

highest> point for> > > > > 7th house and situated in D... so chances of marriage to break(i> > dont> > > > > wish so.. but thats the law given in lesson).. but again rahu is> > also> > > > > samdhari to moon which has highest points for 7th house.> > > > > Ashji please guide on this one..> > > > > i think the result of marriage is spoiled because rahu being> > samdhari> > > > > to 6th lord saturn gave marriage.> > > > > also 6th lord saturn has sight on B,D and E so marriage is bad...> > > > > result might be felt specially in the antra of saturn... 2004> sep to> > > > > 2006 apr.> > > > > also during this antra gave bad results for house 4th and 7th> aswell> > > > > as 6th being in less

points and 4th from sun and mercury.> > > > > venus is in dual sign in both rasi(also aspecting 2nd house> with -5> > > > > points) and navamsa.. chances of 2 marriages.> > > > > sun in 7th house.> > > > > moon aspected by ketu in navamsa and with mars in rasi.. might> cause> > > > > you to take hasty steps.> > > > > cant go more as out of time..> > > > > try to put efforts to pursue your goal. one point irrespective of> > > > > birth time in your wife's chart is that your rahu and saturn> aspects> > > > > her mars based on sign overlapping. so there would be strong> > > > > attraction between the couple... this might be the positive> factor.> > > > > thanks/regards> > > > > harjeet> > > >

> > > > > > astrologyandtiminge> > > > > <%40>> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,> > > > > jay shanders> > > > > <phillyanyone@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Mr. ramesh> > > > > > how are you?/> > > > > > thank you so much for your reply> > > > > > as i am always gratful for all your help and i dont mean to give> > > > > you a hard time its just i depend on you so much for advice and> > > > > prediction as to my current divorce proceeding> > > > > > my wife has told me her birth time is 8:30 AM but i have a> copy of> > > > > her indian birth

certificate and on there it has 9:36 AM so i> > honestly> > > > > dont know which one is for real as i cant even ask her right> > now. can> > > > > you use both and see what results you get. as using the 8:30> AM you> > > > > have said that there is no divorce now or future, does that still> > > > > hold. i just want to know that even though iam going through the> > > > > divorce proceeding should i really worry as will it go through> > and us> > > > > divorce or will it Not happen and we stay married. my birth> time is> > > > > accurate so do i have divorce and 2nd marriage in my chart ???? i> > > > > just want to know over all if me and my wife will have a long> > lasting> > > > > marriage ??> > > >

> > > > > > > > please help me in any way possible as you are helping a person> > > > > save his marriage and thus i have a daughter that i worry so much> > > > > about. any further information as to my chart will be> appreciated??> > > > > > thank you> > > > > > amir> > > > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:> > > > > > Dear Amir,> > > > > > Please read my all mails sincerely.You will find all> > > > > > your answers.> > > > > > I had asked you before also the correctness of> > > > > > birthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked you same> > > > > > data.> > > > > > Unless the birthtime is authenticated, all

efforts> > > > > > will be useless.> > > > > > This I have already pointed you out.I think now you> > > > > > understand it.> > > > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > > > > > > > > --- jay shanders <phillyanyone@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh,> > > > > > > namaste> > > > > > > iam not confused as you have told me in last email> > > > > > > that there is No divorce nor or future.> > > > > > > iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for> > > > > > > consults and you have beening gicing me > > > > > > > predictions. so are you now saying that we will> > > > > > > divorce now with likely chances of reunion

in feb???> > > > > > > so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce occur> > > > > > > there will not be any chances of reunion since i> > > > > > > cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would she> > > > > > > reunite with me after it ??> > > > > > > thank you> > > > > > > amir> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:> > > > > > > Dear Amir,> > > > > > > Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in> > > > > > > the month of Feb/2008.> > > > > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > > > > > > > > > > phillyanyone <phillyanyone@>

wrote:> > > > > > > NAMASTE> > > > > > > Dear Guruji> > > > > > > Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated from my> > > > > > > wife and daughter > > > > > > > since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce> > > > > > > proceeding status. > > > > > > > because of many problems between my wife and her> > > > > > > controling parents > > > > > > > who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for> > > > > > > divorce becase of > > > > > > > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of> > > > > > > weeks going by, i > > > > > > > wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our> > > > > > > marriage and she too > >

> > > > > wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now> > > > > > > her parents are > > > > > > > totally against her coming back and saving our> > > > > > > marriage. my wife does > > > > > > > not want to go aginst her parents and come back to> > > > > > > me so she says > > > > > > > thats it better to divorce and not work anything> > > > > > > else. i have tried > > > > > > > hard to convince her but nothing. we have been> > > > > > > married for 5 years, > > > > > > > on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on september> > > > > > > 8, 2006. i have > > > > > > > been told by many astrologer that neither have> > > > > > > divorce

or 2nd > > > > > > > marriage so why iam I current in divorce status and> > > > > > > will my marriage > > > > > > > survive this current divorce status and me and my> > > > > > > wfie getting back > > > > > > > together. please advice as i need all the advice and> > > > > > > help i can get > > > > > > > to save my marriage and input as to what wil happen> > > > > > > as to my marriage-> > > > > > > divorce or us reuniting???? > > > > > > > thank you> > > > > > > God bless> > > > > > > amir> > > > > > > > > > > > > > amir patel> > > > > > > biodata-> > > > > > > february 19,

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NAMASTE DEAR FELLOW MEMBERS, ALSO, MY DAUGHTER- DIVYA PATEL BIRTH TIME IS- SEPTEMBER 8, 2006, 6 :25 PM LANGHORNE, PA USA CAN ANYONE PLEASE TELL ME ANYTHING ABOUT HER FUTUER EVENTS AS WILL SHE GROW UP WITH A FAMILY WITH HER MOM AND DAD TOGETHER ??? THANK YOU AMIRaarceemastro2002 <aarceemastro2002 wrote: Dear Ash and Harjeet,Ma is lagna and 6th lord occupy 9th house.Ma is LoC for 9th and LoD for 4th occupy house E for 4th.Ma is in house D for 12th and

its LoD Mo is in karaksthaan for 12th.There is inter relationship of 9th, 4th,1st and 12th house.What about his father?Ash ! Is my approach correct ?Thanks and regards.Ramesh Mishra , "Ash" <kas wrote:>> No Harjeet,> > > > Think more on it. Krushnaji has told in short. Study carefully, lagna and> 9th we see so here Ma is in 9th house .. what is special? Why it did not> spoil ?> > > > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca> > _____ > > >

On Behalf Of harjeet> bakshi> Wednesday September 19, 2007 3:10 PM> > Re: need advice-current divorce> > > > Dear Ashji,> although 6th house is D for 9th house.. but its for all lagna.> for scorpio lagna moon is lord of 9th which is nsd to mars 6th lord..> may be thats the reason.. thats what i can come up with .> thanks/regards> harjeet> > astrologyandtiminge> <%40> vents ,> "Ash" <kas@> wrote:> >>

> Dear Harjeet, Anup, Ramesh and all,> > > > > > > > Here Ma is in 9th house who is lord of 6th house so why wouldn't it> spoil> > 9th house results?> > > > What is special about this lagna?> > > > What other lagna would this be applicable to and why?> > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> http://www.ashtro.> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > > _____ > > > > astrologyandtiminge> <%40> vents > >

[astrologyandtiminge> <%40> vents ]> On Behalf Of Ash> > Wednesday September 19, 2007 1:23 PM> > astrologyandtiminge> <%40> vents > > RE: Re: need advice-current divorce> > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet,> > > > Good analysis on the 5:9 :-)> > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> http://www.ashtro.>

<http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > > _____ > > > > astrologyandtiminge> <%40> vents > > [astrologyandtiminge> <%40> vents ]> On Behalf Of harjeet> > bakshi> > Wednesday September 19, 2007 12:46 PM> > astrologyandtiminge> <%40> vents > > Re: need advice-current divorce> > > > > > > > Dear Ashji,>

> if in navamsa virgo asc. arises.. then in navamsa me and venus i.e.> > lord of 1st and 9th house is in 5:9. with 8:40 am.> > with 9:30 saggi asc. in navamsa again sun and jupiter in 5:9 in rasi> > which are lord of 1st and 9th in navamsa.> > thanks/regards> > harjeet> > > > astrologyandtiminge> > <%40>> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,> > "Ash" <kas@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Harjeet,> > > > > > How can 2nd lord aspect be like 6th lord. Something is wrong> > somewhere. If> > > you find that post let me know. > > > > > > 6th house is most malefic and its 12th from B = 7.> > > > > > Harjeet, if you just take Marriage in Ve

antra being most powerful> > then even> > > with 8:30 AM u will still get marriage in Ve antra.> > > > > > > > > > > > Harjeet, please give the calculations here for computing marriage in> > detail> > > using both times. This will give u good practice.> > > > > > I will look forward to proper calculations and that will help all.> > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca>> ca> ca>> http://www.ashtro.> > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> > > > > > _____ > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge> > <%40>> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com> > > [astrologyandtiminge> > <%40>> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]> > On Behalf Of harjeet> > > bakshi> > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 11:59 AM> > > astrologyandtiminge> > <%40>> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com> > > Re: need advice-current

divorce> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ashji/Mishraji/Amir,> > > 9:30 why cant be considered close to correct birth time ?> > > marriage happened in the antra of E and most powerful significator.> > > conception and birth of child occurs in antra of jupiter having very> > > strong points for 5th,11th and 12th house.> > > jupiter is having least points for 7th house. and is also lord of 2nd> > > house so more problems/tensions and bad result pertaining to 7th> > > house. jupiter also aspects house A,E and D with -5 points.> > > so result pertaining to this house is bad during its antra.> > > somewhere in archive i think i read to look at 2nd lord's aspect too> > > just like 6th house..please correct me if i am wrong.> > > again mars lord of 6th aspects

house D and E.. and also aspects lord> > > of C. and also has low points for 7th house.> > > so the antra of mars 2004 nov to 2005 nov must have created problems> > > in married life ? if Amir can comment on this.?> > > next coming antra of saturn lord of D... early 2008 jan end or feb..> > > should bring better results ?> > > Amir can you provide some information about career of your wife.. if> > > she dont work.. or work very hard but dont earn enough and the> > > expenditure is too much from her side ?> > > thanks/regards> > > harjeet> > > > > > astrologyandtiminge> > > <%40>> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,> > > "harjeet bakshi"> > >

<harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Mishraji,> > > > for husband(Amir) chart, venus is in pisces which is dual sign.> > > > thanks/regards> > > > harjeet> > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge> > > <%40>> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,> > > "Ash" <kas@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Ramesh,> > > > > > > > > > Well explained with proper and concrete reasoning based on KAS.> > > > > > > > > > That is the reason why I mentioned in my last line, that the birth> > > > time may> > > > > still be wrong. :-)> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca>> > ca> ca>> > http://www.ashtro.> > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca>> ca> > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge> > >

<%40>> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com> > > > > [astrologyandtiminge> > > <%40>> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]> > > On Behalf Of> > > > ramesh mishra> > > > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 2:12 AM> > > > > astrologyandtiminge> > > <%40>> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com> > > > > RE: Re: need advice-current> > > divorce> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > Dear Ash, Anup, Harjeet and all,> > > > > > > > > > The reasons for questioning the authenticity in the birth time in> > > > respect of> > > > > his spouse are followings.> > > > > > > > > > 1.His wife married on 1 Jun 2002 during Ra / Ve. Undoubtedly Ve> > is the> > > > > strongest significator for 7th house but there is also combined> > > > delay caused> > > > > by Sa and Ju both.> > > > > > > > > > This delay is overcome on 29 Aug 2004 during Ra/ Mo.> > > > > > > > > > As per the given time marriage could have taken place in Ma antara> > > > who is SD> > > > > to Mo.> > > > > > > > > > Ma is also 6th lord.>

> > > > > > > > > 2. This chart indicates harmony in married life because 7th from> > > > lagna, Su> > > > > and Mo all are in 3:11 ratio.> > > > > > > > > > 3.There is no blessings in the chart.> > > > > > > > > > 4. Both the luminaries are aspected by Sa.> > > > > > > > > > 5. Ve is under the affliction of Ra/Ke > > > > > > > > > > 6.Ma as 6th lord is in karak sthaan of 2nd and Mo the karka> lord of> > > > 2nd is> > > > > in house B for 7th. The same Mo and Ma are in 4:10 relationship in> > > > navamsa.> > > > > > > > > > This may indicate the separation and then divorce.> > > > > > > > > > But this factor is absent

in her hussband chart.> > > > > > > > > > 7. 7th lord Ve is in dual sign indicating the second marriage.> This> > > > is not> > > > > present in her husband chart.> > > > > > > > > > I thought these may be the reason which does not tally with her> > > husband> > > > > chart.> > > > > > > > > > This may be due to wrong birth time.> > > > > > > > > > When you change the time as 9:36 AM then also nothing changes> except> > > > > navamsa.> > > > > > > > > > You may correct me if I am wrong anywhere.> > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > >

> > > > Ash <kas@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > Here if you cast the chart of the natives wife with the given time> > > > of 8:30> > > > > am, marriage happens in the highest power planet of Venus, and yet> > > > Ramesh> > > > > and I both questioned the time of birth.> > > > > > > > > > And it turns out that the birth certificate time is of 9:32 AM> which> > > > is more> > > > > than 1 hour difference. Even still the birth time might be wrong.> > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.> <http://www.ashtro.

<http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca/>> > ca/> ca/>> > > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> ca> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge> > > <%40>> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com> > > > > [astrologyandtiminge> > > <%40>> > vents (AT) (DOT)

<vents%40> com]> > > On Behalf Of Ash> > > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 10:38 PM> > > > > astrologyandtiminge> > > <%40>> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com> > > > > RE: Re: need advice-current> > > divorce> > > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet and All, > > > > > > > > > > Here the native has blessing if this chart is accurate. Most> of the> > > > points> > > > > are less in 7th house so results are showing.> > > > > > > > > > Now, 6th lord is Saturn and its with 3 bindus in 10th house. So> > > > from

there> > > > > he aspects 7th i.e LoB, House E, House D, LoA and LoC in Navamsa. > > > > So here> > > > > results are more severe. > > > > > > > > > > Here for Quality, remove -5 points from 12th, 7th and 4th and from> > > > Mercury> > > > > and sun as well for quality i.e. 5 points more to offset bad> effects> > > > of 6th> > > > > lord. > > > > > > > > > > So only Moon is good for timing and quality. > > > > > > > > > > From lagna, sun, mo, ve and Ma all are in 4:10, 2:12, 4:10,> 3:11 and> > > > 2:12. > > > > > > > > > > Lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 in navamsa. > > > > > > > > > > As you have said, there is full delay

of Sa for 27 years and then> > > of Ju> > > > > after that. So marriage can happen in Rahu who is SD to 6th lord> > > > and 7th> > > > > lord Sa and Mo. > > > > > > > > > > After marriage, antra running have been of Ju who has less> power in> > > > 7th, and> > > > > then after that Mercury who is 2nd lord and less power in 7th> > house. > > > > > > > > > > Child birth in Sa antra who is SD to Ve the strongest significator> > > > for 5th> > > > > house and Sa is NSD to Ve.> > > > > > > > > > Now the native is running Ketu antra and Ketu is in House E> for 7th> > > > as B and> > > > > SD to Mo so again strong feelings are there and at the same>

time its> > > > SD to> > > > > Sa as well so again it can't give full happiness.> > > > > > > > > > After that again the antras are not strong for 7th house, sun> has 12> > > > points> > > > > but again its aspected by Sa so quality is still poor. > > > > > > > > > > My suggestion in this case would be to try to reconcile with his> > > > wife and to> > > > > use the power of blessing. Try to let bygones be bygones and start> > > > afresh> > > > > for the child.> > > > > > > > > > The native will have to do a lot of adjustment.> > > > > > > > > > Otherwise it's very difficult.> > > > > > > > > > On another note, just recently I

gave the discussion that> Krushnaji> > > > gave on> > > > > accepting time as given. Here this gentleman's wife's chart is a> > > prime> > > > > candidate on how data can be wrong and using KAS it can be pointed> > > out.> > > > > Ramesh also pointed out the improper time of his wife and so> did I. > > > > > > > > > > Actually this is based on concrete calculations and just accepting> > > > the time> > > > > given as correct is not always proper. Unless one takes proper> > > > effort to> > > > > tally events and makes sure that things are fitting right or even> > > in the> > > > > ball park.> > > > > > > > > > I will leave it to Ramesh to show and demonstrate the

reason on> > why he> > > > > questioned the authenticity of birth time.> > > > > > > > > > Sometimes, people also change the dates and that I have personally> > > > > experienced. In any case, one thing is clear, that if the birth> > > time is> > > > > accurate then all the events of life will fall in place. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca/>> > ca/> ca/>> > > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> ca> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge> > > <%40>> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com> > > > > [astrologyandtiminge> > > <%40>> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]> > > On Behalf Of harjeet> > > > > bakshi> > > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 9:07 PM> > > >

> astrologyandtiminge> > > <%40>> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com> > > > > Re: need advice-current> divorce> > > > > > > > > > Dear Amir,> > > > > i am just learning KAS...> > > > > > > > > > taking marriage 5 years ago.. might have happened in the antra> > of rahu> > > > > samdhari to saturn lord of 6th and is situated in 6th house.> > > > > now antra of ketu samdhari to moon which is having highest> point for> > > > > 7th house and situated in D... so chances of marriage to break(i> > dont> > > > > wish so.. but thats the law given in lesson).. but again rahu

is> > also> > > > > samdhari to moon which has highest points for 7th house.> > > > > Ashji please guide on this one..> > > > > i think the result of marriage is spoiled because rahu being> > samdhari> > > > > to 6th lord saturn gave marriage.> > > > > also 6th lord saturn has sight on B,D and E so marriage is bad...> > > > > result might be felt specially in the antra of saturn... 2004> sep to> > > > > 2006 apr.> > > > > also during this antra gave bad results for house 4th and 7th> aswell> > > > > as 6th being in less points and 4th from sun and mercury.> > > > > venus is in dual sign in both rasi(also aspecting 2nd house> with -5> > > > > points) and navamsa.. chances of 2 marriages.> > > >

> sun in 7th house.> > > > > moon aspected by ketu in navamsa and with mars in rasi.. might> cause> > > > > you to take hasty steps.> > > > > cant go more as out of time..> > > > > try to put efforts to pursue your goal. one point irrespective of> > > > > birth time in your wife's chart is that your rahu and saturn> aspects> > > > > her mars based on sign overlapping. so there would be strong> > > > > attraction between the couple... this might be the positive> factor.> > > > > thanks/regards> > > > > harjeet> > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge> > > > > <%40>> > > > vents (AT) (DOT)

<vents%40> com,> > > > > jay shanders> > > > > <phillyanyone@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Mr. ramesh> > > > > > how are you?/> > > > > > thank you so much for your reply> > > > > > as i am always gratful for all your help and i dont mean to give> > > > > you a hard time its just i depend on you so much for advice and> > > > > prediction as to my current divorce proceeding> > > > > > my wife has told me her birth time is 8:30 AM but i have a> copy of> > > > > her indian birth certificate and on there it has 9:36 AM so i> > honestly> > > > > dont know which one is for real as i cant even ask her right> > now. can> > >

> > you use both and see what results you get. as using the 8:30> AM you> > > > > have said that there is no divorce now or future, does that still> > > > > hold. i just want to know that even though iam going through the> > > > > divorce proceeding should i really worry as will it go through> > and us> > > > > divorce or will it Not happen and we stay married. my birth> time is> > > > > accurate so do i have divorce and 2nd marriage in my chart ???? i> > > > > just want to know over all if me and my wife will have a long> > lasting> > > > > marriage ??> > > > > > > > > > > > please help me in any way possible as you are helping a person> > > > > save his marriage and thus i have a daughter that i worry so

much> > > > > about. any further information as to my chart will be> appreciated??> > > > > > thank you> > > > > > amir> > > > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:> > > > > > Dear Amir,> > > > > > Please read my all mails sincerely.You will find all> > > > > > your answers.> > > > > > I had asked you before also the correctness of> > > > > > birthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked you same> > > > > > data.> > > > > > Unless the birthtime is authenticated, all efforts> > > > > > will be useless.> > > > > > This I have already pointed you out.I think now you> > > > > > understand it.> > > >

> > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > > > > > > > > --- jay shanders <phillyanyone@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh,> > > > > > > namaste> > > > > > > iam not confused as you have told me in last email> > > > > > > that there is No divorce nor or future.> > > > > > > iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for> > > > > > > consults and you have beening gicing me > > > > > > > predictions. so are you now saying that we will> > > > > > > divorce now with likely chances of reunion in feb???> > > > > > > so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce occur> > > > > > > there will not be any chances of reunion since i> > > > >

> > cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would she> > > > > > > reunite with me after it ??> > > > > > > thank you> > > > > > > amir> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:> > > > > > > Dear Amir,> > > > > > > Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in> > > > > > > the month of Feb/2008.> > > > > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > > > > > > > > > > phillyanyone <phillyanyone@> wrote:> > > > > > > NAMASTE> > > > > > > Dear Guruji> > > > > > > Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated from my> > > >

> > > wife and daughter > > > > > > > since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce> > > > > > > proceeding status. > > > > > > > because of many problems between my wife and her> > > > > > > controling parents > > > > > > > who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for> > > > > > > divorce becase of > > > > > > > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of> > > > > > > weeks going by, i > > > > > > > wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our> > > > > > > marriage and she too > > > > > > > wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now> > > > > > > her parents are > > > > > > > totally against her coming back and saving

our> > > > > > > marriage. my wife does > > > > > > > not want to go aginst her parents and come back to> > > > > > > me so she says > > > > > > > thats it better to divorce and not work anything> > > > > > > else. i have tried > > > > > > > hard to convince her but nothing. we have been> > > > > > > married for 5 years, > > > > > > > on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on september> > > > > > > 8, 2006. i have > > > > > > > been told by many astrologer that neither have> > > > > > > divorce or 2nd > > > > > > > marriage so why iam I current in divorce status and> > > > > > > will my marriage > > > > > > > survive this current

divorce status and me and my> > > > > > > wfie getting back > > > > > > > together. please advice as i need all the advice and> > > > > > > help i can get > > > > > > > to save my marriage and input as to what wil happen> > > > > > > as to my marriage-> > > > > > > divorce or us reuniting???? > > > > > > > thank you> > > > > > > God bless> > > > > > > amir> > > > > > > > > > > > > > amir patel> > > > > > > biodata-> > > > > > > february 19, 1972, 7:15 PM, ahmadabad, india> > > > > > > > > > > > > > bijal patel> > > > > > > biodata> > > > > > > october

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