need advice-current divorce

On Behalf Of harjeet bakshi

Wednesday September 19, 2007

12:46 PM

Re: need advice-current divorce

Dear Ashji,

if in navamsa virgo asc. arises.. then in navamsa me and venus i.e.

lord of 1st and 9th house is in 5:9. with 8:40 am.

with 9:30 saggi asc. in navamsa again sun and jupiter in 5:9 in rasi

which are lord of 1st and 9th in navamsa.

thanks/regards

harjeet

,

" Ash " <kas wrote:

>

> Dear Harjeet,

>

> How can 2nd lord aspect be like 6th lord. Something is wrong

somewhere. If

> you find that post let me know.

>

> 6th house is most malefic and its 12th from B = 7.

>

> Harjeet, if you just take Marriage in Ve antra being most powerful

then even

> with 8:30 AM u will still get marriage in Ve antra.

>

> Harjeet, please give the calculations here for computing marriage in

detail

> using both times. This will give u good practice.

>

> I will look forward to proper calculations and that will help all.

>

> Cheers !!!

>

> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca>

>

> _____

>

On Behalf Of harjeet

> bakshi

> Wednesday September 19, 2007 11:59 AM

>

> Re: need advice-current divorce

>

> Dear Ashji/Mishraji/Amir,

> 9:30 why cant be considered close to correct birth time ?

> marriage happened in the antra of E and most powerful significator.

> conception and birth of child occurs in antra of jupiter having very

> strong points for 5th,11th and 12th house.

> jupiter is having least points for 7th house. and is also lord of 2nd

> house so more problems/tensions and bad result pertaining to 7th

> house. jupiter also aspects house A,E and D with -5 points.

> so result pertaining to this house is bad during its antra.

> somewhere in archive i think i read to look at 2nd lord's aspect too

> just like 6th house..please correct me if i am wrong.

> again mars lord of 6th aspects house D and E.. and also aspects lord

> of C. and also has low points for 7th house.

> so the antra of mars 2004 nov to 2005 nov must have created problems

> in married life ? if Amir can comment on this.?

> next coming antra of saturn lord of D... early 2008 jan end or feb..

> should bring better results ?

> Amir can you provide some information about career of your wife.. if

> she dont work.. or work very hard but dont earn enough and the

> expenditure is too much from her side ?

> thanks/regards

> harjeet

>

> astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents ,

> " harjeet bakshi "

> <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Mishraji,

> > for husband(Amir) chart, venus is in pisces which is dual sign.

> > thanks/regards

> > harjeet

> >

> > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents ,

> " Ash " <kas@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Ramesh,

> > >

> > > Well explained with proper and concrete reasoning based on KAS.

> > >

> > > That is the reason why I mentioned in my last line, that the

birth

> > time may

> > > still be wrong. :-)

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > >

> > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents

> > > [astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents ]

> On Behalf Of

> > ramesh mishra

> > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 2:12 AM

> > > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents

> > > RE: Re: need

advice-current

> divorce

> > >

> > > Dear Ash, Anup, Harjeet and all,

> > >

> > > The reasons for questioning the authenticity in the birth time

in

> > respect of

> > > his spouse are followings.

> > >

> > > 1.His wife married on 1 Jun 2002 during Ra / Ve. Undoubtedly Ve

is the

> > > strongest significator for 7th house but there is also combined

> > delay caused

> > > by Sa and Ju both.

> > >

> > > This delay is overcome on 29 Aug 2004 during Ra/ Mo.

> > >

> > > As per the given time marriage could have taken place in Ma

antara

> > who is SD

> > > to Mo.

> > >

> > > Ma is also 6th lord.

> > >

> > > 2. This chart indicates harmony in married life because 7th from

> > lagna, Su

> > > and Mo all are in 3:11 ratio.

> > >

> > > 3.There is no blessings in the chart.

> > >

> > > 4. Both the luminaries are aspected by Sa.

> > >

> > > 5. Ve is under the affliction of Ra/Ke

> > >

> > > 6.Ma as 6th lord is in karak sthaan of 2nd and Mo the karka lord

of

> > 2nd is

> > > in house B for 7th. The same Mo and Ma are in 4:10 relationship

in

> > navamsa.

> > >

> > > This may indicate the separation and then divorce.

> > >

> > > But this factor is absent in her hussband chart.

> > >

> > > 7. 7th lord Ve is in dual sign indicating the second marriage.

This

> > is not

> > > present in her husband chart.

> > >

> > > I thought these may be the reason which does not tally with her

> husband

> > > chart.

> > >

> > > This may be due to wrong birth time.

> > >

> > > When you change the time as 9:36 AM then also nothing changes

except

> > > navamsa.

> > >

> > > You may correct me if I am wrong anywhere.

> > >

> > > Thanks and regards.

> > >

> > > Ramesh Mishra

> > >

> > > Ash <kas@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Here if you cast the chart of the natives wife with the given

time

> > of 8:30

> > > am, marriage happens in the highest power planet of Venus, and

yet

> > Ramesh

> > > and I both questioned the time of birth.

> > >

> > > And it turns out that the birth certificate time is of 9:32 AM

which

> > is more

> > > than 1 hour difference. Even still the birth time might be

wrong.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > >

> > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents

> > > [astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents ]

> On Behalf Of Ash

> > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 10:38 PM

> > > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents

> > > RE: Re: need

advice-current

> divorce

> > >

> > > Dear Harjeet and All,

> > >

> > > Here the native has blessing if this chart is accurate. Most of

the

> > points

> > > are less in 7th house so results are showing.

> > >

> > > Now, 6th lord is Saturn and its with 3 bindus in 10th house. So

> > from there

> > > he aspects 7th i.e LoB, House E, House D, LoA and LoC in

Navamsa.

> > So here

> > > results are more severe.

> > >

> > > Here for Quality, remove -5 points from 12th, 7th and 4th and

from

> > Mercury

> > > and sun as well for quality i.e. 5 points more to offset bad

effects

> > of 6th

> > > lord.

> > >

> > > So only Moon is good for timing and quality.

> > >

> > > From lagna, sun, mo, ve and Ma all are in 4:10, 2:12, 4:10, 3:11

and

> > 2:12.

> > >

> > > Lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 in navamsa.

> > >

> > > As you have said, there is full delay of Sa for 27 years and

then

> of Ju

> > > after that. So marriage can happen in Rahu who is SD to 6th lord

> > and 7th

> > > lord Sa and Mo.

> > >

> > > After marriage, antra running have been of Ju who has less power

in

> > 7th, and

> > > then after that Mercury who is 2nd lord and less power in 7th

house.

> > >

> > > Child birth in Sa antra who is SD to Ve the strongest

significator

> > for 5th

> > > house and Sa is NSD to Ve.

> > >

> > > Now the native is running Ketu antra and Ketu is in House E for

7th

> > as B and

> > > SD to Mo so again strong feelings are there and at the same time

its

> > SD to

> > > Sa as well so again it can't give full happiness.

> > >

> > > After that again the antras are not strong for 7th house, sun

has 12

> > points

> > > but again its aspected by Sa so quality is still poor.

> > >

> > > My suggestion in this case would be to try to reconcile with his

> > wife and to

> > > use the power of blessing. Try to let bygones be bygones and

start

> > afresh

> > > for the child.

> > >

> > > The native will have to do a lot of adjustment.

> > >

> > > Otherwise it's very difficult.

> > >

> > > On another note, just recently I gave the discussion that

Krushnaji

> > gave on

> > > accepting time as given. Here this gentleman's wife's chart is a

> prime

> > > candidate on how data can be wrong and using KAS it can be

pointed

> out.

> > > Ramesh also pointed out the improper time of his wife and so did

I.

> > >

> > > Actually this is based on concrete calculations and just

accepting

> > the time

> > > given as correct is not always proper. Unless one takes proper

> > effort to

> > > tally events and makes sure that things are fitting right or

even

> in the

> > > ball park.

> > >

> > > I will leave it to Ramesh to show and demonstrate the reason on

why he

> > > questioned the authenticity of birth time.

> > >

> > > Sometimes, people also change the dates and that I have

personally

> > > experienced. In any case, one thing is clear, that if the birth

> time is

> > > accurate then all the events of life will fall in place.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > >

> > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.

> <http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html/>

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > astrologyandtiminge

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vents

> > > [astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents ]

> On Behalf Of harjeet

> > > bakshi

> > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 9:07 PM

> > > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents

> > > Re: need advice-current

divorce

> > >

> > > Dear Amir,

> > > i am just learning KAS...

> > >

> > > taking marriage 5 years ago.. might have happened in the antra

of rahu

> > > samdhari to saturn lord of 6th and is situated in 6th house.

> > > now antra of ketu samdhari to moon which is having highest point

for

> > > 7th house and situated in D... so chances of marriage to break(i

dont

> > > wish so.. but thats the law given in lesson).. but again rahu is

also

> > > samdhari to moon which has highest points for 7th house.

> > > Ashji please guide on this one..

> > > i think the result of marriage is spoiled because rahu being

samdhari

> > > to 6th lord saturn gave marriage.

> > > also 6th lord saturn has sight on B,D and E so marriage is

bad...

> > > result might be felt specially in the antra of saturn... 2004

sep to

> > > 2006 apr.

> > > also during this antra gave bad results for house 4th and 7th

aswell

> > > as 6th being in less points and 4th from sun and mercury.

> > > venus is in dual sign in both rasi(also aspecting 2nd house with

-5

> > > points) and navamsa.. chances of 2 marriages.

> > > sun in 7th house.

> > > moon aspected by ketu in navamsa and with mars in rasi.. might

cause

> > > you to take hasty steps.

> > > cant go more as out of time..

> > > try to put efforts to pursue your goal. one point irrespective

of

> > > birth time in your wife's chart is that your rahu and saturn

aspects

> > > her mars based on sign overlapping. so there would be strong

> > > attraction between the couple... this might be the positive

factor.

> > > thanks/regards

> > > harjeet

> > >

> > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40>

com,

> > > jay shanders

> > > <phillyanyone@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Mr. ramesh

> > > > how are you?/

> > > > thank you so much for your reply

> > > > as i am always gratful for all your help and i dont mean to

give

> > > you a hard time its just i depend on you so much for advice and

> > > prediction as to my current divorce proceeding

> > > > my wife has told me her birth time is 8:30 AM but i have a

copy of

> > > her indian birth certificate and on there it has 9:36 AM so i

honestly

> > > dont know which one is for real as i cant even ask her right

now. can

> > > you use both and see what results you get. as using the 8:30 AM

you

> > > have said that there is no divorce now or future, does that

still

> > > hold. i just want to know that even though iam going through the

> > > divorce proceeding should i really worry as will it go through

and us

> > > divorce or will it Not happen and we stay married. my birth time

is

> > > accurate so do i have divorce and 2nd marriage in my chart ????

i

> > > just want to know over all if me and my wife will have a long

lasting

> > > marriage ??

> > > >

> > > > please help me in any way possible as you are helping a

person

> > > save his marriage and thus i have a daughter that i worry so

much

> > > about. any further information as to my chart will be

appreciated??

> > > > thank you

> > > > amir

> > > >

> > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > Dear Amir,

> > > > Please read my all mails sincerely.You will find all

> > > > your answers.

> > > > I had asked you before also the correctness of

> > > > birthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked you same

> > > > data.

> > > > Unless the birthtime is authenticated, all efforts

> > > > will be useless.

> > > > This I have already pointed you out.I think now you

> > > > understand it.

> > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > >

> > > > --- jay shanders <phillyanyone@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > > > namaste

> > > > > iam not confused as you have told me in last email

> > > > > that there is No divorce nor or future.

> > > > > iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for

> > > > > consults and you have beening gicing me

> > > > > predictions. so are you now saying that we will

> > > > > divorce now with likely chances of reunion in feb???

> > > > > so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce occur

> > > > > there will not be any chances of reunion since i

> > > > > cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would she

> > > > > reunite with me after it ??

> > > > > thank you

> > > > > amir

> > > > >

> > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Amir,

> > > > > Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in

> > > > > the month of Feb/2008.

> > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > >

> > > > > phillyanyone <phillyanyone@> wrote:

> > > > > NAMASTE

> > > > > Dear Guruji

> > > > > Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated from my

> > > > > wife and daughter

> > > > > since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce

> > > > > proceeding status.

> > > > > because of many problems between my wife and her

> > > > > controling parents

> > > > > who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for

> > > > > divorce becase of

> > > > > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of

> > > > > weeks going by, i

> > > > > wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our

> > > > > marriage and she too

> > > > > wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now

> > > > > her parents are

> > > > > totally against her coming back and saving our

> > > > > marriage. my wife does

> > > > > not want to go aginst her parents and come back to

> > > > > me so she says

> > > > > thats it better to divorce and not work anything

> > > > > else. i have tried

> > > > > hard to convince her but nothing. we have been

> > > > > married for 5 years,

> > > > > on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on september

> > > > > 8, 2006. i have

> > > > > been told by many astrologer that neither have

> > > > > divorce or 2nd

> > > > > marriage so why iam I current in divorce status and

> > > > > will my marriage

> > > > > survive this current divorce status and me and my

> > > > > wfie getting back

> > > > > together. please advice as i need all the advice and

> > > > > help i can get

> > > > > to save my marriage and input as to what wil happen

> > > > > as to my marriage-

> > > > > divorce or us reuniting????

> > > > > thank you

> > > > > God bless

> > > > > amir

> > > > >

> > > > > amir patel

> > > > > biodata-

> > > > > february 19, 1972, 7:15 PM, ahmadabad,

india

> > > > >

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September 19, 2007

Dear Harjeet,

Good analysis on the 5:9 J

Cheers !!!

On Behalf Of harjeet bakshi

Wednesday September 19, 2007

12:46 PM

Subject:

Re: need advice-current divorce

Dear Ashji,

if in navamsa virgo asc. arises.. then in navamsa me and venus i.e.

lord of 1st and 9th house is in 5:9. with 8:40 am.

with 9:30 saggi asc. in navamsa again sun and jupiter in 5:9 in rasi

which are lord of 1st and 9th in navamsa.

thanks/regards

harjeet

,

" Ash " <kas wrote:

>

> Dear Harjeet,

>

> How can 2nd lord aspect be like 6th lord. Something is wrong

somewhere. If

> you find that post let me know.

>

> 6th house is most malefic and its 12th from B = 7.

>

> Harjeet, if you just take Marriage in Ve antra being most powerful

then even

> with 8:30 AM u will still get marriage in Ve antra.

>

> Harjeet, please give the calculations here for computing marriage in

detail

> using both times. This will give u good practice.

>

> I will look forward to proper calculations and that will help all.

>

> Cheers !!!

>

> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca>

>

> _____

>

On Behalf Of harjeet

> bakshi

> Wednesday September 19, 2007 11:59 AM

>

> Re: need advice-current divorce

>

> Dear Ashji/Mishraji/Amir,

> 9:30 why cant be considered close to correct birth time ?

> marriage happened in the antra of E and most powerful significator.

> conception and birth of child occurs in antra of jupiter having very

> strong points for 5th,11th and 12th house.

> jupiter is having least points for 7th house. and is also lord of 2nd

> house so more problems/tensions and bad result pertaining to 7th

> house. jupiter also aspects house A,E and D with -5 points.

> so result pertaining to this house is bad during its antra.

> somewhere in archive i think i read to look at 2nd lord's aspect too

> just like 6th house..please correct me if i am wrong.

> again mars lord of 6th aspects house D and E.. and also aspects lord

> of C. and also has low points for 7th house.

> so the antra of mars 2004 nov to 2005 nov must have created problems

> in married life ? if Amir can comment on this.?

> next coming antra of saturn lord of D... early 2008 jan end or feb..

> should bring better results ?

> Amir can you provide some information about career of your wife.. if

> she dont work.. or work very hard but dont earn enough and the

> expenditure is too much from her side ?

> thanks/regards

> harjeet

>

> astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents ,

> " harjeet bakshi "

> <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Mishraji,

> > for husband(Amir) chart, venus is in pisces which is dual sign.

> > thanks/regards

> > harjeet

> >

> > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents ,

> " Ash " <kas@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Ramesh,

> > >

> > > Well explained with proper and concrete reasoning based on KAS.

> > >

> > > That is the reason why I mentioned in my last line, that the

birth

> > time may

> > > still be wrong. :-)

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > >

> > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents

> > > [astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents ]

> On Behalf Of

> > ramesh mishra

> > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 2:12 AM

> > > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents

> > > RE: Re: need

advice-current

> divorce

> > >

> > > Dear Ash, Anup, Harjeet and all,

> > >

> > > The reasons for questioning the authenticity in the birth time

in

> > respect of

> > > his spouse are followings.

> > >

> > > 1.His wife married on 1 Jun 2002 during Ra / Ve. Undoubtedly Ve

is the

> > > strongest significator for 7th house but there is also combined

> > delay caused

> > > by Sa and Ju both.

> > >

> > > This delay is overcome on 29 Aug 2004 during Ra/ Mo.

> > >

> > > As per the given time marriage could have taken place in Ma

antara

> > who is SD

> > > to Mo.

> > >

> > > Ma is also 6th lord.

> > >

> > > 2. This chart indicates harmony in married life because 7th from

> > lagna, Su

> > > and Mo all are in 3:11 ratio.

> > >

> > > 3.There is no blessings in the chart.

> > >

> > > 4. Both the luminaries are aspected by Sa.

> > >

> > > 5. Ve is under the affliction of Ra/Ke

> > >

> > > 6.Ma as 6th lord is in karak sthaan of 2nd and Mo the karka lord

of

> > 2nd is

> > > in house B for 7th. The same Mo and Ma are in 4:10 relationship

in

> > navamsa.

> > >

> > > This may indicate the separation and then divorce.

> > >

> > > But this factor is absent in her hussband chart.

> > >

> > > 7. 7th lord Ve is in dual sign indicating the second marriage.

This

> > is not

> > > present in her husband chart.

> > >

> > > I thought these may be the reason which does not tally with her

> husband

> > > chart.

> > >

> > > This may be due to wrong birth time.

> > >

> > > When you change the time as 9:36 AM then also nothing changes

except

> > > navamsa.

> > >

> > > You may correct me if I am wrong anywhere.

> > >

> > > Thanks and regards.

> > >

> > > Ramesh Mishra

> > >

> > > Ash <kas@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Here if you cast the chart of the natives wife with the given

time

> > of 8:30

> > > am, marriage happens in the highest power planet of Venus, and

yet

> > Ramesh

> > > and I both questioned the time of birth.

> > >

> > > And it turns out that the birth certificate time is of 9:32 AM

which

> > is more

> > > than 1 hour difference. Even still the birth time might be

wrong.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > >

> > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents

> > > [astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents ]

> On Behalf Of Ash

> > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 10:38 PM

> > > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents

> > > RE: Re: need

advice-current

> divorce

> > >

> > > Dear Harjeet and All,

> > >

> > > Here the native has blessing if this chart is accurate. Most of

the

> > points

> > > are less in 7th house so results are showing.

> > >

> > > Now, 6th lord is Saturn and its with 3 bindus in 10th house. So

> > from there

> > > he aspects 7th i.e LoB, House E, House D, LoA and LoC in

Navamsa.

> > So here

> > > results are more severe.

> > >

> > > Here for Quality, remove -5 points from 12th, 7th and 4th and

from

> > Mercury

> > > and sun as well for quality i.e. 5 points more to offset bad

effects

> > of 6th

> > > lord.

> > >

> > > So only Moon is good for timing and quality.

> > >

> > > From lagna, sun, mo, ve and Ma all are in 4:10, 2:12, 4:10, 3:11

and

> > 2:12.

> > >

> > > Lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 in navamsa.

> > >

> > > As you have said, there is full delay of Sa for 27 years and

then

> of Ju

> > > after that. So marriage can happen in Rahu who is SD to 6th lord

> > and 7th

> > > lord Sa and Mo.

> > >

> > > After marriage, antra running have been of Ju who has less power

in

> > 7th, and

> > > then after that Mercury who is 2nd lord and less power in 7th

house.

> > >

> > > Child birth in Sa antra who is SD to Ve the strongest

significator

> > for 5th

> > > house and Sa is NSD to Ve.

> > >

> > > Now the native is running Ketu antra and Ketu is in House E for

7th

> > as B and

> > > SD to Mo so again strong feelings are there and at the same time

its

> > SD to

> > > Sa as well so again it can't give full happiness.

> > >

> > > After that again the antras are not strong for 7th house, sun

has 12

> > points

> > > but again its aspected by Sa so quality is still poor.

> > >

> > > My suggestion in this case would be to try to reconcile with his

> > wife and to

> > > use the power of blessing. Try to let bygones be bygones and

start

> > afresh

> > > for the child.

> > >

> > > The native will have to do a lot of adjustment.

> > >

> > > Otherwise it's very difficult.

> > >

> > > On another note, just recently I gave the discussion that

Krushnaji

> > gave on

> > > accepting time as given. Here this gentleman's wife's chart is a

> prime

> > > candidate on how data can be wrong and using KAS it can be

pointed

> out.

> > > Ramesh also pointed out the improper time of his wife and so did

I.

> > >

> > > Actually this is based on concrete calculations and just

accepting

> > the time

> > > given as correct is not always proper. Unless one takes proper

> > effort to

> > > tally events and makes sure that things are fitting right or

even

> in the

> > > ball park.

> > >

> > > I will leave it to Ramesh to show and demonstrate the reason on

why he

> > > questioned the authenticity of birth time.

> > >

> > > Sometimes, people also change the dates and that I have

personally

> > > experienced. In any case, one thing is clear, that if the birth

> time is

> > > accurate then all the events of life will fall in place.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > >

> > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.

> <http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html/>

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents

> > > [astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents ]

> On Behalf Of harjeet

> > > bakshi

> > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 9:07 PM

> > > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents

> > > Re: need advice-current

divorce

> > >

> > > Dear Amir,

> > > i am just learning KAS...

> > >

> > > taking marriage 5 years ago.. might have happened in the antra

of rahu

> > > samdhari to saturn lord of 6th and is situated in 6th house.

> > > now antra of ketu samdhari to moon which is having highest point

for

> > > 7th house and situated in D... so chances of marriage to break(i

dont

> > > wish so.. but thats the law given in lesson).. but again rahu is

also

> > > samdhari to moon which has highest points for 7th house.

> > > Ashji please guide on this one..

> > > i think the result of marriage is spoiled because rahu being

samdhari

> > > to 6th lord saturn gave marriage.

> > > also 6th lord saturn has sight on B,D and E so marriage is

bad...

> > > result might be felt specially in the antra of saturn... 2004

sep to

> > > 2006 apr.

> > > also during this antra gave bad results for house 4th and 7th

aswell

> > > as 6th being in less points and 4th from sun and mercury.

> > > venus is in dual sign in both rasi(also aspecting 2nd house with

-5

> > > points) and navamsa.. chances of 2 marriages.

> > > sun in 7th house.

> > > moon aspected by ketu in navamsa and with mars in rasi.. might

cause

> > > you to take hasty steps.

> > > cant go more as out of time..

> > > try to put efforts to pursue your goal. one point irrespective

of

> > > birth time in your wife's chart is that your rahu and saturn

aspects

> > > her mars based on sign overlapping. so there would be strong

> > > attraction between the couple... this might be the positive

factor.

> > > thanks/regards

> > > harjeet

> > >

> > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40>

com,

> > > jay shanders

> > > <phillyanyone@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Mr. ramesh

> > > > how are you?/

> > > > thank you so much for your reply

> > > > as i am always gratful for all your help and i dont mean to

give

> > > you a hard time its just i depend on you so much for advice and

> > > prediction as to my current divorce proceeding

> > > > my wife has told me her birth time is 8:30 AM but i have a

copy of

> > > her indian birth certificate and on there it has 9:36 AM so i

honestly

> > > dont know which one is for real as i cant even ask her right

now. can

> > > you use both and see what results you get. as using the 8:30 AM

you

> > > have said that there is no divorce now or future, does that

still

> > > hold. i just want to know that even though iam going through the

> > > divorce proceeding should i really worry as will it go through

and us

> > > divorce or will it Not happen and we stay married. my birth time

is

> > > accurate so do i have divorce and 2nd marriage in my chart ????

i

> > > just want to know over all if me and my wife will have a long

lasting

> > > marriage ??

> > > >

> > > > please help me in any way possible as you are helping a

person

> > > save his marriage and thus i have a daughter that i worry so

much

> > > about. any further information as to my chart will be

appreciated??

> > > > thank you

> > > > amir

> > > >

> > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > Dear Amir,

> > > > Please read my all mails sincerely.You will find all

> > > > your answers.

> > > > I had asked you before also the correctness of

> > > > birthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked you same

> > > > data.

> > > > Unless the birthtime is authenticated, all efforts

> > > > will be useless.

> > > > This I have already pointed you out.I think now you

> > > > understand it.

> > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > >

> > > > --- jay shanders <phillyanyone@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > > > namaste

> > > > > iam not confused as you have told me in last email

> > > > > that there is No divorce nor or future.

> > > > > iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for

> > > > > consults and you have beening gicing me

> > > > > predictions. so are you now saying that we will

> > > > > divorce now with likely chances of reunion in feb???

> > > > > so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce occur

> > > > > there will not be any chances of reunion since i

> > > > > cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would she

> > > > > reunite with me after it ??

> > > > > thank you

> > > > > amir

> > > > >

> > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Amir,

> > > > > Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in

> > > > > the month of Feb/2008.

> > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > >

> > > > > phillyanyone <phillyanyone@> wrote:

> > > > > NAMASTE

> > > > > Dear Guruji

> > > > > Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated from my

> > > > > wife and daughter

> > > > > since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce

> > > > > proceeding status.

> > > > > because of many problems between my wife and her

> > > > > controling parents

> > > > > who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for

> > > > > divorce becase of

> > > > > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of

> > > > > weeks going by, i

> > > > > wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our

> > > > > marriage and she too

> > > > > wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now

> > > > > her parents are

> > > > > totally against her coming back and saving our

> > > > > marriage. my wife does

> > > > > not want to go aginst her parents and come back to

> > > > > me so she says

> > > > > thats it better to divorce and not work anything

> > > > > else. i have tried

> > > > > hard to convince her but nothing. we have been

> > > > > married for 5 years,

> > > > > on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on september

> > > > > 8, 2006. i have

> > > > > been told by many astrologer that neither have

> > > > > divorce or 2nd

> > > > > marriage so why iam I current in divorce status and

> > > > > will my marriage

> > > > > survive this current divorce status and me and my

> > > > > wfie getting back

> > > > > together. please advice as i need all the advice and

> > > > > help i can get

> > > > > to save my marriage and input as to what wil happen

> > > > > as to my marriage-

> > > > > divorce or us reuniting????

> > > > > thank you

> > > > > God bless

> > > > > amir

> > > > >

> > > > > amir patel

> > > > > biodata-

> > > > > february 19, 1972, 7:15 PM, ahmadabad,

india

> > > > >

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September 19, 2007

Dear Harjeet, Anup, Ramesh and all,

Here Ma is in 9th house who is lord of 6th house

so why wouldn’t it spoil 9th house results?

What is special about this lagna?

What other lagna would this be applicable to and why?

Cheers !!!

On Behalf Of Ash

Wednesday September 19, 2007

1:23 PM

RE:

Re: need advice-current divorce

Dear Harjeet,

Good analysis on the 5:9 J

Cheers !!!

On Behalf Of harjeet bakshi

Wednesday September 19, 2007

12:46 PM

Re: need advice-current divorce

Dear

Ashji,

if in navamsa virgo asc. arises.. then in navamsa me and venus i.e.

lord of 1st and 9th house is in 5:9. with 8:40 am.

with 9:30 saggi asc. in navamsa again sun and jupiter in 5:9 in rasi

which are lord of 1st and 9th in navamsa.

thanks/regards

harjeet

,

" Ash " <kas wrote:

>

> Dear Harjeet,

>

> How can 2nd lord aspect be like 6th lord. Something is wrong

somewhere. If

> you find that post let me know.

>

> 6th house is most malefic and its 12th from B = 7.

>

> Harjeet, if you just take Marriage in Ve antra being most powerful

then even

> with 8:30 AM u will still get marriage in Ve antra.

>

> Harjeet, please give the calculations here for computing marriage in

detail

> using both times. This will give u good practice.

>

> I will look forward to proper calculations and that will help all.

>

> Cheers !!!

>

> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca>

>

> _____

>

On Behalf Of harjeet

> bakshi

> Wednesday September 19, 2007 11:59 AM

>

> Re: need advice-current divorce

>

> Dear Ashji/Mishraji/Amir,

> 9:30 why cant be considered close to correct birth time ?

> marriage happened in the antra of E and most powerful significator.

> conception and birth of child occurs in antra of jupiter having very

> strong points for 5th,11th and 12th house.

> jupiter is having least points for 7th house. and is also lord of 2nd

> house so more problems/tensions and bad result pertaining to 7th

> house. jupiter also aspects house A,E and D with -5 points.

> so result pertaining to this house is bad during its antra.

> somewhere in archive i think i read to look at 2nd lord's aspect too

> just like 6th house..please correct me if i am wrong.

> again mars lord of 6th aspects house D and E.. and also aspects lord

> of C. and also has low points for 7th house.

> so the antra of mars 2004 nov to 2005 nov must have created problems

> in married life ? if Amir can comment on this.?

> next coming antra of saturn lord of D... early 2008 jan end or feb..

> should bring better results ?

> Amir can you provide some information about career of your wife.. if

> she dont work.. or work very hard but dont earn enough and the

> expenditure is too much from her side ?

> thanks/regards

> harjeet

>

> astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents ,

> " harjeet bakshi "

> <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Mishraji,

> > for husband(Amir) chart, venus is in pisces which is dual sign.

> > thanks/regards

> > harjeet

> >

> > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents ,

> " Ash " <kas@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Ramesh,

> > >

> > > Well explained with proper and concrete reasoning based on KAS.

> > >

> > > That is the reason why I mentioned in my last line, that the

birth

> > time may

> > > still be wrong. :-)

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > >

> > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents

> > > [astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents ]

> On Behalf Of

> > ramesh mishra

> > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 2:12 AM

> > > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents

> > > RE: Re: need

advice-current

> divorce

> > >

> > > Dear Ash, Anup, Harjeet and all,

> > >

> > > The reasons for questioning the authenticity in the birth time

in

> > respect of

> > > his spouse are followings.

> > >

> > > 1.His wife married on 1 Jun 2002 during Ra / Ve. Undoubtedly Ve

is the

> > > strongest significator for 7th house but there is also combined

> > delay caused

> > > by Sa and Ju both.

> > >

> > > This delay is overcome on 29 Aug 2004 during Ra/ Mo.

> > >

> > > As per the given time marriage could have taken place in Ma

antara

> > who is SD

> > > to Mo.

> > >

> > > Ma is also 6th lord.

> > >

> > > 2. This chart indicates harmony in married life because 7th from

> > lagna, Su

> > > and Mo all are in 3:11 ratio.

> > >

> > > 3.There is no blessings in the chart.

> > >

> > > 4. Both the luminaries are aspected by Sa.

> > >

> > > 5. Ve is under the affliction of Ra/Ke

> > >

> > > 6.Ma as 6th lord is in karak sthaan of 2nd and Mo the karka lord

of

> > 2nd is

> > > in house B for 7th. The same Mo and Ma are in 4:10 relationship

in

> > navamsa.

> > >

> > > This may indicate the separation and then divorce.

> > >

> > > But this factor is absent in her hussband chart.

> > >

> > > 7. 7th lord Ve is in dual sign indicating the second marriage.

This

> > is not

> > > present in her husband chart.

> > >

> > > I thought these may be the reason which does not tally with her

> husband

> > > chart.

> > >

> > > This may be due to wrong birth time.

> > >

> > > When you change the time as 9:36 AM then also nothing changes

except

> > > navamsa.

> > >

> > > You may correct me if I am wrong anywhere.

> > >

> > > Thanks and regards.

> > >

> > > Ramesh Mishra

> > >

> > > Ash <kas@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Here if you cast the chart of the natives wife with the given

time

> > of 8:30

> > > am, marriage happens in the highest power planet of Venus, and

yet

> > Ramesh

> > > and I both questioned the time of birth.

> > >

> > > And it turns out that the birth certificate time is of 9:32 AM

which

> > is more

> > > than 1 hour difference. Even still the birth time might be

wrong.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > >

> > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents

> > > [astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents ]

> On Behalf Of Ash

> > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 10:38 PM

> > > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents

> > > RE: Re: need advice-current

> divorce

> > >

> > > Dear Harjeet and All,

> > >

> > > Here the native has blessing if this chart is accurate. Most of

the

> > points

> > > are less in 7th house so results are showing.

> > >

> > > Now, 6th lord is Saturn and its with 3 bindus in 10th house. So

> > from there

> > > he aspects 7th i.e LoB, House E, House D, LoA and LoC in

Navamsa.

> > So here

> > > results are more severe.

> > >

> > > Here for Quality, remove -5 points from 12th, 7th and 4th and

from

> > Mercury

> > > and sun as well for quality i.e. 5 points more to offset bad

effects

> > of 6th

> > > lord.

> > >

> > > So only Moon is good for timing and quality.

> > >

> > > From lagna, sun, mo, ve and Ma all are in 4:10, 2:12, 4:10, 3:11

and

> > 2:12.

> > >

> > > Lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 in navamsa.

> > >

> > > As you have said, there is full delay of Sa for 27 years and

then

> of Ju

> > > after that. So marriage can happen in Rahu who is SD to 6th lord

> > and 7th

> > > lord Sa and Mo.

> > >

> > > After marriage, antra running have been of Ju who has less power

in

> > 7th, and

> > > then after that Mercury who is 2nd lord and less power in 7th

house.

> > >

> > > Child birth in Sa antra who is SD to Ve the strongest

significator

> > for 5th

> > > house and Sa is NSD to Ve.

> > >

> > > Now the native is running Ketu antra and Ketu is in House E for

7th

> > as B and

> > > SD to Mo so again strong feelings are there and at the same time

its

> > SD to

> > > Sa as well so again it can't give full happiness.

> > >

> > > After that again the antras are not strong for 7th house, sun

has 12

> > points

> > > but again its aspected by Sa so quality is still poor.

> > >

> > > My suggestion in this case would be to try to reconcile with his

> > wife and to

> > > use the power of blessing. Try to let bygones be bygones and

start

> > afresh

> > > for the child.

> > >

> > > The native will have to do a lot of adjustment.

> > >

> > > Otherwise it's very difficult.

> > >

> > > On another note, just recently I gave the discussion that

Krushnaji

> > gave on

> > > accepting time as given. Here this gentleman's wife's chart is a

> prime

> > > candidate on how data can be wrong and using KAS it can be

pointed

> out.

> > > Ramesh also pointed out the improper time of his wife and so did

I.

> > >

> > > Actually this is based on concrete calculations and just

accepting

> > the time

> > > given as correct is not always proper. Unless one takes proper

> > effort to

> > > tally events and makes sure that things are fitting right or even

> in the

> > > ball park.

> > >

> > > I will leave it to Ramesh to show and demonstrate the reason on

why he

> > > questioned the authenticity of birth time.

> > >

> > > Sometimes, people also change the dates and that I have

personally

> > > experienced. In any case, one thing is clear, that if the birth

> time is

> > > accurate then all the events of life will fall in place.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > >

> > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.

> <http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html/>

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents

> > > [astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents ]

> On Behalf Of harjeet

> > > bakshi

> > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 9:07 PM

> > > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents

> > > Re: need advice-current

divorce

> > >

> > > Dear Amir,

> > > i am just learning KAS...

> > >

> > > taking marriage 5 years ago.. might have happened in the antra

of rahu

> > > samdhari to saturn lord of 6th and is situated in 6th house.

> > > now antra of ketu samdhari to moon which is having highest point

for

> > > 7th house and situated in D... so chances of marriage to break(i

dont

> > > wish so.. but thats the law given in lesson).. but again rahu is

also

> > > samdhari to moon which has highest points for 7th house.

> > > Ashji please guide on this one..

> > > i think the result of marriage is spoiled because rahu being

samdhari

> > > to 6th lord saturn gave marriage.

> > > also 6th lord saturn has sight on B,D and E so marriage is

bad...

> > > result might be felt specially in the antra of saturn... 2004

sep to

> > > 2006 apr.

> > > also during this antra gave bad results for house 4th and 7th

aswell

> > > as 6th being in less points and 4th from sun and mercury.

> > > venus is in dual sign in both rasi(also aspecting 2nd house with

-5

> > > points) and navamsa.. chances of 2 marriages.

> > > sun in 7th house.

> > > moon aspected by ketu in navamsa and with mars in rasi.. might

cause

> > > you to take hasty steps.

> > > cant go more as out of time..

> > > try to put efforts to pursue your goal. one point irrespective

of

> > > birth time in your wife's chart is that your rahu and saturn

aspects

> > > her mars based on sign overlapping. so there would be strong

> > > attraction between the couple... this might be the positive

factor.

> > > thanks/regards

> > > harjeet

> > >

> > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40>

com,

> > > jay shanders

> > > <phillyanyone@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Mr. ramesh

> > > > how are you?/

> > > > thank you so much for your reply

> > > > as i am always gratful for all your help and i dont mean to

give

> > > you a hard time its just i depend on you so much for advice and

> > > prediction as to my current divorce proceeding

> > > > my wife has told me her birth time is 8:30 AM but i have a

copy of

> > > her indian birth certificate and on there it has 9:36 AM so i

honestly

> > > dont know which one is for real as i cant even ask her right

now. can

> > > you use both and see what results you get. as using the 8:30 AM

you

> > > have said that there is no divorce now or future, does that

still

> > > hold. i just want to know that even though iam going through the

> > > divorce proceeding should i really worry as will it go through

and us

> > > divorce or will it Not happen and we stay married. my birth time

is

> > > accurate so do i have divorce and 2nd marriage in my chart ????

i

> > > just want to know over all if me and my wife will have a long

lasting

> > > marriage ??

> > > >

> > > > please help me in any way possible as you are helping a

person

> > > save his marriage and thus i have a daughter that i worry so

much

> > > about. any further information as to my chart will be

appreciated??

> > > > thank you

> > > > amir

> > > >

> > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > Dear Amir,

> > > > Please read my all mails sincerely.You will find all

> > > > your answers.

> > > > I had asked you before also the correctness of

> > > > birthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked you same

> > > > data.

> > > > Unless the birthtime is authenticated, all efforts

> > > > will be useless.

> > > > This I have already pointed you out.I think now you

> > > > understand it.

> > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > >

> > > > --- jay shanders <phillyanyone@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > > > namaste

> > > > > iam not confused as you have told me in last email

> > > > > that there is No divorce nor or future.

> > > > > iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for

> > > > > consults and you have beening gicing me

> > > > > predictions. so are you now saying that we will

> > > > > divorce now with likely chances of reunion in feb???

> > > > > so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce occur

> > > > > there will not be any chances of reunion since i

> > > > > cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would she

> > > > > reunite with me after it ??

> > > > > thank you

> > > > > amir

> > > > >

> > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Amir,

> > > > > Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in

> > > > > the month of Feb/2008.

> > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > >

> > > > > phillyanyone <phillyanyone@> wrote:

> > > > > NAMASTE

> > > > > Dear Guruji

> > > > > Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated from my

> > > > > wife and daughter

> > > > > since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce

> > > > > proceeding status.

> > > > > because of many problems between my wife and her

> > > > > controling parents

> > > > > who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for

> > > > > divorce becase of

> > > > > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of

> > > > > weeks going by, i

> > > > > wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our

> > > > > marriage and she too

> > > > > wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now

> > > > > her parents are

> > > > > totally against her coming back and saving our

> > > > > marriage. my wife does

> > > > > not want to go aginst her parents and come back to

> > > > > me so she says

> > > > > thats it better to divorce and not work anything

> > > > > else. i have tried

> > > > > hard to convince her but nothing. we have been

> > > > > married for 5 years,

> > > > > on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on september

> > > > > 8, 2006. i have

> > > > > been told by many astrologer that neither have

> > > > > divorce or 2nd

> > > > > marriage so why iam I current in divorce status and

> > > > > will my marriage

> > > > > survive this current divorce status and me and my

> > > > > wfie getting back

> > > > > together. please advice as i need all the advice and

> > > > > help i can get

> > > > > to save my marriage and input as to what wil happen

> > > > > as to my marriage-

> > > > > divorce or us reuniting????

> > > > > thank you

> > > > > God bless

> > > > > amir

> > > > >

> > > > > amir patel

> > > > > biodata-

> > > > > february 19, 1972, 7:15 PM, ahmadabad,

india

> > > > >

> > > > > bijal patel

> > > > > biodata

> > > > > october 30, 1977, 8:30 AM, ahmadabad,

india

> > > > >

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September 19, 2007

Thanks Sir,

so other events like child birth also fall in place i guess..

antra of jupiter lord of 2nd can irrespective create problems/tensions

and is having low points for 7th house..

can we say that time might be correct ?

thanks/regards

harjeet

, " Ash " <kas wrote:

>

> Dear Harjeet,

>

> Good analysis on the 5:9 :-)

>

> Cheers !!!

>

> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

> _____

>

> On Behalf Of harjeet

> bakshi

> Wednesday September 19, 2007 12:46 PM

>

> Re: need advice-current divorce

>

> Dear Ashji,

> if in navamsa virgo asc. arises.. then in navamsa me and venus i.e.

> lord of 1st and 9th house is in 5:9. with 8:40 am.

> with 9:30 saggi asc. in navamsa again sun and jupiter in 5:9 in rasi

> which are lord of 1st and 9th in navamsa.

> thanks/regards

> harjeet

>

> astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents ,

> " Ash " <kas@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Harjeet,

> >

> > How can 2nd lord aspect be like 6th lord. Something is wrong

> somewhere. If

> > you find that post let me know.

> >

> > 6th house is most malefic and its 12th from B = 7.

> >

> > Harjeet, if you just take Marriage in Ve antra being most powerful

> then even

> > with 8:30 AM u will still get marriage in Ve antra.

> >

> > Harjeet, please give the calculations here for computing marriage in

> detail

> > using both times. This will give u good practice.

> >

> > I will look forward to proper calculations and that will help all.

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> >

> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca>

> >

> > _____

> >

> > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents

> > [astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents ]

> On Behalf Of harjeet

> > bakshi

> > Wednesday September 19, 2007 11:59 AM

> > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents

> > Re: need advice-current divorce

> >

> > Dear Ashji/Mishraji/Amir,

> > 9:30 why cant be considered close to correct birth time ?

> > marriage happened in the antra of E and most powerful significator.

> > conception and birth of child occurs in antra of jupiter having very

> > strong points for 5th,11th and 12th house.

> > jupiter is having least points for 7th house. and is also lord of 2nd

> > house so more problems/tensions and bad result pertaining to 7th

> > house. jupiter also aspects house A,E and D with -5 points.

> > so result pertaining to this house is bad during its antra.

> > somewhere in archive i think i read to look at 2nd lord's aspect too

> > just like 6th house..please correct me if i am wrong.

> > again mars lord of 6th aspects house D and E.. and also aspects lord

> > of C. and also has low points for 7th house.

> > so the antra of mars 2004 nov to 2005 nov must have created problems

> > in married life ? if Amir can comment on this.?

> > next coming antra of saturn lord of D... early 2008 jan end or feb..

> > should bring better results ?

> > Amir can you provide some information about career of your wife.. if

> > she dont work.. or work very hard but dont earn enough and the

> > expenditure is too much from her side ?

> > thanks/regards

> > harjeet

> >

> > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,

> > " harjeet bakshi "

> > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Mishraji,

> > > for husband(Amir) chart, venus is in pisces which is dual sign.

> > > thanks/regards

> > > harjeet

> > >

> > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,

> > " Ash " <kas@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > >

> > > > Well explained with proper and concrete reasoning based on KAS.

> > > >

> > > > That is the reason why I mentioned in my last line, that the birth

> > > time may

> > > > still be wrong. :-)

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > >

> > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

> ca> ca>

> > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > [astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]

> > On Behalf Of

> > > ramesh mishra

> > > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 2:12 AM

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > RE: Re: need advice-current

> > divorce

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ash, Anup, Harjeet and all,

> > > >

> > > > The reasons for questioning the authenticity in the birth time in

> > > respect of

> > > > his spouse are followings.

> > > >

> > > > 1.His wife married on 1 Jun 2002 during Ra / Ve. Undoubtedly Ve

> is the

> > > > strongest significator for 7th house but there is also combined

> > > delay caused

> > > > by Sa and Ju both.

> > > >

> > > > This delay is overcome on 29 Aug 2004 during Ra/ Mo.

> > > >

> > > > As per the given time marriage could have taken place in Ma antara

> > > who is SD

> > > > to Mo.

> > > >

> > > > Ma is also 6th lord.

> > > >

> > > > 2. This chart indicates harmony in married life because 7th from

> > > lagna, Su

> > > > and Mo all are in 3:11 ratio.

> > > >

> > > > 3.There is no blessings in the chart.

> > > >

> > > > 4. Both the luminaries are aspected by Sa.

> > > >

> > > > 5. Ve is under the affliction of Ra/Ke

> > > >

> > > > 6.Ma as 6th lord is in karak sthaan of 2nd and Mo the karka

lord of

> > > 2nd is

> > > > in house B for 7th. The same Mo and Ma are in 4:10 relationship in

> > > navamsa.

> > > >

> > > > This may indicate the separation and then divorce.

> > > >

> > > > But this factor is absent in her hussband chart.

> > > >

> > > > 7. 7th lord Ve is in dual sign indicating the second marriage.

This

> > > is not

> > > > present in her husband chart.

> > > >

> > > > I thought these may be the reason which does not tally with her

> > husband

> > > > chart.

> > > >

> > > > This may be due to wrong birth time.

> > > >

> > > > When you change the time as 9:36 AM then also nothing changes

except

> > > > navamsa.

> > > >

> > > > You may correct me if I am wrong anywhere.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > >

> > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > >

> > > > Ash <kas@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Here if you cast the chart of the natives wife with the given time

> > > of 8:30

> > > > am, marriage happens in the highest power planet of Venus, and yet

> > > Ramesh

> > > > and I both questioned the time of birth.

> > > >

> > > > And it turns out that the birth certificate time is of 9:32 AM

which

> > > is more

> > > > than 1 hour difference. Even still the birth time might be wrong.

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > >

> > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

> ca/> ca/>

> > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > [astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]

> > On Behalf Of Ash

> > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 10:38 PM

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > RE: Re: need advice-current

> > divorce

> > > >

> > > > Dear Harjeet and All,

> > > >

> > > > Here the native has blessing if this chart is accurate. Most

of the

> > > points

> > > > are less in 7th house so results are showing.

> > > >

> > > > Now, 6th lord is Saturn and its with 3 bindus in 10th house. So

> > > from there

> > > > he aspects 7th i.e LoB, House E, House D, LoA and LoC in Navamsa.

> > > So here

> > > > results are more severe.

> > > >

> > > > Here for Quality, remove -5 points from 12th, 7th and 4th and from

> > > Mercury

> > > > and sun as well for quality i.e. 5 points more to offset bad

effects

> > > of 6th

> > > > lord.

> > > >

> > > > So only Moon is good for timing and quality.

> > > >

> > > > From lagna, sun, mo, ve and Ma all are in 4:10, 2:12, 4:10,

3:11 and

> > > 2:12.

> > > >

> > > > Lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 in navamsa.

> > > >

> > > > As you have said, there is full delay of Sa for 27 years and then

> > of Ju

> > > > after that. So marriage can happen in Rahu who is SD to 6th lord

> > > and 7th

> > > > lord Sa and Mo.

> > > >

> > > > After marriage, antra running have been of Ju who has less

power in

> > > 7th, and

> > > > then after that Mercury who is 2nd lord and less power in 7th

> house.

> > > >

> > > > Child birth in Sa antra who is SD to Ve the strongest significator

> > > for 5th

> > > > house and Sa is NSD to Ve.

> > > >

> > > > Now the native is running Ketu antra and Ketu is in House E

for 7th

> > > as B and

> > > > SD to Mo so again strong feelings are there and at the same

time its

> > > SD to

> > > > Sa as well so again it can't give full happiness.

> > > >

> > > > After that again the antras are not strong for 7th house, sun

has 12

> > > points

> > > > but again its aspected by Sa so quality is still poor.

> > > >

> > > > My suggestion in this case would be to try to reconcile with his

> > > wife and to

> > > > use the power of blessing. Try to let bygones be bygones and start

> > > afresh

> > > > for the child.

> > > >

> > > > The native will have to do a lot of adjustment.

> > > >

> > > > Otherwise it's very difficult.

> > > >

> > > > On another note, just recently I gave the discussion that

Krushnaji

> > > gave on

> > > > accepting time as given. Here this gentleman's wife's chart is a

> > prime

> > > > candidate on how data can be wrong and using KAS it can be pointed

> > out.

> > > > Ramesh also pointed out the improper time of his wife and so

did I.

> > > >

> > > > Actually this is based on concrete calculations and just accepting

> > > the time

> > > > given as correct is not always proper. Unless one takes proper

> > > effort to

> > > > tally events and makes sure that things are fitting right or even

> > in the

> > > > ball park.

> > > >

> > > > I will leave it to Ramesh to show and demonstrate the reason on

> why he

> > > > questioned the authenticity of birth time.

> > > >

> > > > Sometimes, people also change the dates and that I have personally

> > > > experienced. In any case, one thing is clear, that if the birth

> > time is

> > > > accurate then all the events of life will fall in place.

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > >

> > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

> <http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html/>

> ca/> ca/>

> > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca

> > > >

> > > > _____

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> > > > [astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

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> > On Behalf Of harjeet

> > > > bakshi

> > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 9:07 PM

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > Re: need advice-current

divorce

> > > >

> > > > Dear Amir,

> > > > i am just learning KAS...

> > > >

> > > > taking marriage 5 years ago.. might have happened in the antra

> of rahu

> > > > samdhari to saturn lord of 6th and is situated in 6th house.

> > > > now antra of ketu samdhari to moon which is having highest

point for

> > > > 7th house and situated in D... so chances of marriage to break(i

> dont

> > > > wish so.. but thats the law given in lesson).. but again rahu is

> also

> > > > samdhari to moon which has highest points for 7th house.

> > > > Ashji please guide on this one..

> > > > i think the result of marriage is spoiled because rahu being

> samdhari

> > > > to 6th lord saturn gave marriage.

> > > > also 6th lord saturn has sight on B,D and E so marriage is bad...

> > > > result might be felt specially in the antra of saturn... 2004

sep to

> > > > 2006 apr.

> > > > also during this antra gave bad results for house 4th and 7th

aswell

> > > > as 6th being in less points and 4th from sun and mercury.

> > > > venus is in dual sign in both rasi(also aspecting 2nd house

with -5

> > > > points) and navamsa.. chances of 2 marriages.

> > > > sun in 7th house.

> > > > moon aspected by ketu in navamsa and with mars in rasi.. might

cause

> > > > you to take hasty steps.

> > > > cant go more as out of time..

> > > > try to put efforts to pursue your goal. one point irrespective of

> > > > birth time in your wife's chart is that your rahu and saturn

aspects

> > > > her mars based on sign overlapping. so there would be strong

> > > > attraction between the couple... this might be the positive

factor.

> > > > thanks/regards

> > > > harjeet

> > > >

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > > <%40>

> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,

> > > > jay shanders

> > > > <phillyanyone@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Mr. ramesh

> > > > > how are you?/

> > > > > thank you so much for your reply

> > > > > as i am always gratful for all your help and i dont mean to give

> > > > you a hard time its just i depend on you so much for advice and

> > > > prediction as to my current divorce proceeding

> > > > > my wife has told me her birth time is 8:30 AM but i have a

copy of

> > > > her indian birth certificate and on there it has 9:36 AM so i

> honestly

> > > > dont know which one is for real as i cant even ask her right

> now. can

> > > > you use both and see what results you get. as using the 8:30

AM you

> > > > have said that there is no divorce now or future, does that still

> > > > hold. i just want to know that even though iam going through the

> > > > divorce proceeding should i really worry as will it go through

> and us

> > > > divorce or will it Not happen and we stay married. my birth

time is

> > > > accurate so do i have divorce and 2nd marriage in my chart ???? i

> > > > just want to know over all if me and my wife will have a long

> lasting

> > > > marriage ??

> > > > >

> > > > > please help me in any way possible as you are helping a person

> > > > save his marriage and thus i have a daughter that i worry so much

> > > > about. any further information as to my chart will be

appreciated??

> > > > > thank you

> > > > > amir

> > > > >

> > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Amir,

> > > > > Please read my all mails sincerely.You will find all

> > > > > your answers.

> > > > > I had asked you before also the correctness of

> > > > > birthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked you same

> > > > > data.

> > > > > Unless the birthtime is authenticated, all efforts

> > > > > will be useless.

> > > > > This I have already pointed you out.I think now you

> > > > > understand it.

> > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > >

> > > > > --- jay shanders <phillyanyone@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > > > > namaste

> > > > > > iam not confused as you have told me in last email

> > > > > > that there is No divorce nor or future.

> > > > > > iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for

> > > > > > consults and you have beening gicing me

> > > > > > predictions. so are you now saying that we will

> > > > > > divorce now with likely chances of reunion in feb???

> > > > > > so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce occur

> > > > > > there will not be any chances of reunion since i

> > > > > > cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would she

> > > > > > reunite with me after it ??

> > > > > > thank you

> > > > > > amir

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Amir,

> > > > > > Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in

> > > > > > the month of Feb/2008.

> > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > >

> > > > > > phillyanyone <phillyanyone@> wrote:

> > > > > > NAMASTE

> > > > > > Dear Guruji

> > > > > > Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated from my

> > > > > > wife and daughter

> > > > > > since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce

> > > > > > proceeding status.

> > > > > > because of many problems between my wife and her

> > > > > > controling parents

> > > > > > who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for

> > > > > > divorce becase of

> > > > > > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of

> > > > > > weeks going by, i

> > > > > > wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our

> > > > > > marriage and she too

> > > > > > wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now

> > > > > > her parents are

> > > > > > totally against her coming back and saving our

> > > > > > marriage. my wife does

> > > > > > not want to go aginst her parents and come back to

> > > > > > me so she says

> > > > > > thats it better to divorce and not work anything

> > > > > > else. i have tried

> > > > > > hard to convince her but nothing. we have been

> > > > > > married for 5 years,

> > > > > > on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on september

> > > > > > 8, 2006. i have

> > > > > > been told by many astrologer that neither have

> > > > > > divorce or 2nd

> > > > > > marriage so why iam I current in divorce status and

> > > > > > will my marriage

> > > > > > survive this current divorce status and me and my

> > > > > > wfie getting back

> > > > > > together. please advice as i need all the advice and

> > > > > > help i can get

> > > > > > to save my marriage and input as to what wil happen

> > > > > > as to my marriage-

> > > > > > divorce or us reuniting????

> > > > > > thank you

> > > > > > God bless

> > > > > > amir

> > > > > >

> > > > > > amir patel

> > > > > > biodata-

> > > > > > february 19, 1972, 7:15 PM, ahmadabad, india

> > > > > >

> > > > > > bijal patel

> > > > > > biodata

> > > > > > october 30, 1977, 8:30 AM, ahmadabad, india

> > > > > >

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September 19, 2007

Yes sir,

as per 9:30 i guess.. conception and birth both in jupiter antra.

i hope next antra of saturn lord of D..comes out good for the native.

thanks/regards

harjeet

, " Ash " <kas wrote:

>

> Dear Harjeet,

>

> Yes, with 8:40 AM lagna and 9th are in 5:9, with 9:30 Am, lagna and 9th

> lords are in 1:1 and not 5:9.

>

> Now also 6th lord is in 9th house but here its also LoE for 1st

house so it

> might not spoil 9th house. So yes, 8:40 AM time can be considered.

>

> Then if delay is reduced then antra after 18 years is Me and Ke who

are weak

> for 7th and then Venus comes and so Venus can give marriage.

>

> Now in this case 11th points are less than 12th so we must find out

if this

> girl has more spending trend.

>

> Here Mars is aspecting mercury who is 11th lord and Rahu is also in

11th and

> aspecting Mercury so again was there any miscarriage or a cesearean

birth?

>

> So u have to start to now confirm, with that time 4 sectors of

Mercury and 2

> of Sa are there so that can give u idea of her nature, so again confirm

> that.

>

> That is why having many events is important so yes good observation

on the

> time of 8:40 AM.

>

> If this girl does not have more spending trend then the lagna might be

> different or even the date might be different.

>

> Conception happened in dec 2005 (approx) with delivery in sept 2007

so that

> falls in Mars antra. Power for Ma is less for 11th and 5th.

>

> So that is not matching but Mo can give. After marriage in antra of

Venus,

> Sun antra came and Sun is weak for 11th so it might give or might give

> miscarriage and Mo should give conception.

>

> So again some more rectification might be required.

>

> So like that.

>

> Cheers !!!

>

> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

> _____

>

> On Behalf Of harjeet

> bakshi

> Wednesday September 19, 2007 12:46 PM

>

> Re: need advice-current divorce

>

> Dear Ashji,

> if in navamsa virgo asc. arises.. then in navamsa me and venus i.e.

> lord of 1st and 9th house is in 5:9. with 8:40 am.

> with 9:30 saggi asc. in navamsa again sun and jupiter in 5:9 in rasi

> which are lord of 1st and 9th in navamsa.

> thanks/regards

> harjeet

>

> astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents ,

> " Ash " <kas@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Harjeet,

> >

> > How can 2nd lord aspect be like 6th lord. Something is wrong

> somewhere. If

> > you find that post let me know.

> >

> > 6th house is most malefic and its 12th from B = 7.

> >

> > Harjeet, if you just take Marriage in Ve antra being most powerful

> then even

> > with 8:30 AM u will still get marriage in Ve antra.

> >

> > Harjeet, please give the calculations here for computing marriage in

> detail

> > using both times. This will give u good practice.

> >

> > I will look forward to proper calculations and that will help all.

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> >

> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca>

> >

> > _____

> >

> > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents

> > [astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents ]

> On Behalf Of harjeet

> > bakshi

> > Wednesday September 19, 2007 11:59 AM

> > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents

> > Re: need advice-current divorce

> >

> > Dear Ashji/Mishraji/Amir,

> > 9:30 why cant be considered close to correct birth time ?

> > marriage happened in the antra of E and most powerful significator.

> > conception and birth of child occurs in antra of jupiter having very

> > strong points for 5th,11th and 12th house.

> > jupiter is having least points for 7th house. and is also lord of 2nd

> > house so more problems/tensions and bad result pertaining to 7th

> > house. jupiter also aspects house A,E and D with -5 points.

> > so result pertaining to this house is bad during its antra.

> > somewhere in archive i think i read to look at 2nd lord's aspect too

> > just like 6th house..please correct me if i am wrong.

> > again mars lord of 6th aspects house D and E.. and also aspects lord

> > of C. and also has low points for 7th house.

> > so the antra of mars 2004 nov to 2005 nov must have created problems

> > in married life ? if Amir can comment on this.?

> > next coming antra of saturn lord of D... early 2008 jan end or feb..

> > should bring better results ?

> > Amir can you provide some information about career of your wife.. if

> > she dont work.. or work very hard but dont earn enough and the

> > expenditure is too much from her side ?

> > thanks/regards

> > harjeet

> >

> > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,

> > " harjeet bakshi "

> > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Mishraji,

> > > for husband(Amir) chart, venus is in pisces which is dual sign.

> > > thanks/regards

> > > harjeet

> > >

> > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,

> > " Ash " <kas@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > >

> > > > Well explained with proper and concrete reasoning based on KAS.

> > > >

> > > > That is the reason why I mentioned in my last line, that the birth

> > > time may

> > > > still be wrong. :-)

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > >

> > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

> ca> ca>

> > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > [astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]

> > On Behalf Of

> > > ramesh mishra

> > > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 2:12 AM

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > RE: Re: need advice-current

> > divorce

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ash, Anup, Harjeet and all,

> > > >

> > > > The reasons for questioning the authenticity in the birth time in

> > > respect of

> > > > his spouse are followings.

> > > >

> > > > 1.His wife married on 1 Jun 2002 during Ra / Ve. Undoubtedly Ve

> is the

> > > > strongest significator for 7th house but there is also combined

> > > delay caused

> > > > by Sa and Ju both.

> > > >

> > > > This delay is overcome on 29 Aug 2004 during Ra/ Mo.

> > > >

> > > > As per the given time marriage could have taken place in Ma antara

> > > who is SD

> > > > to Mo.

> > > >

> > > > Ma is also 6th lord.

> > > >

> > > > 2. This chart indicates harmony in married life because 7th from

> > > lagna, Su

> > > > and Mo all are in 3:11 ratio.

> > > >

> > > > 3.There is no blessings in the chart.

> > > >

> > > > 4. Both the luminaries are aspected by Sa.

> > > >

> > > > 5. Ve is under the affliction of Ra/Ke

> > > >

> > > > 6.Ma as 6th lord is in karak sthaan of 2nd and Mo the karka

lord of

> > > 2nd is

> > > > in house B for 7th. The same Mo and Ma are in 4:10 relationship in

> > > navamsa.

> > > >

> > > > This may indicate the separation and then divorce.

> > > >

> > > > But this factor is absent in her hussband chart.

> > > >

> > > > 7. 7th lord Ve is in dual sign indicating the second marriage.

This

> > > is not

> > > > present in her husband chart.

> > > >

> > > > I thought these may be the reason which does not tally with her

> > husband

> > > > chart.

> > > >

> > > > This may be due to wrong birth time.

> > > >

> > > > When you change the time as 9:36 AM then also nothing changes

except

> > > > navamsa.

> > > >

> > > > You may correct me if I am wrong anywhere.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > >

> > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > >

> > > > Ash <kas@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Here if you cast the chart of the natives wife with the given time

> > > of 8:30

> > > > am, marriage happens in the highest power planet of Venus, and yet

> > > Ramesh

> > > > and I both questioned the time of birth.

> > > >

> > > > And it turns out that the birth certificate time is of 9:32 AM

which

> > > is more

> > > > than 1 hour difference. Even still the birth time might be wrong.

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > >

> > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

> ca/> ca/>

> > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > [astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]

> > On Behalf Of Ash

> > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 10:38 PM

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > RE: Re: need advice-current

> > divorce

> > > >

> > > > Dear Harjeet and All,

> > > >

> > > > Here the native has blessing if this chart is accurate. Most

of the

> > > points

> > > > are less in 7th house so results are showing.

> > > >

> > > > Now, 6th lord is Saturn and its with 3 bindus in 10th house. So

> > > from there

> > > > he aspects 7th i.e LoB, House E, House D, LoA and LoC in Navamsa.

> > > So here

> > > > results are more severe.

> > > >

> > > > Here for Quality, remove -5 points from 12th, 7th and 4th and from

> > > Mercury

> > > > and sun as well for quality i.e. 5 points more to offset bad

effects

> > > of 6th

> > > > lord.

> > > >

> > > > So only Moon is good for timing and quality.

> > > >

> > > > From lagna, sun, mo, ve and Ma all are in 4:10, 2:12, 4:10,

3:11 and

> > > 2:12.

> > > >

> > > > Lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 in navamsa.

> > > >

> > > > As you have said, there is full delay of Sa for 27 years and then

> > of Ju

> > > > after that. So marriage can happen in Rahu who is SD to 6th lord

> > > and 7th

> > > > lord Sa and Mo.

> > > >

> > > > After marriage, antra running have been of Ju who has less

power in

> > > 7th, and

> > > > then after that Mercury who is 2nd lord and less power in 7th

> house.

> > > >

> > > > Child birth in Sa antra who is SD to Ve the strongest significator

> > > for 5th

> > > > house and Sa is NSD to Ve.

> > > >

> > > > Now the native is running Ketu antra and Ketu is in House E

for 7th

> > > as B and

> > > > SD to Mo so again strong feelings are there and at the same

time its

> > > SD to

> > > > Sa as well so again it can't give full happiness.

> > > >

> > > > After that again the antras are not strong for 7th house, sun

has 12

> > > points

> > > > but again its aspected by Sa so quality is still poor.

> > > >

> > > > My suggestion in this case would be to try to reconcile with his

> > > wife and to

> > > > use the power of blessing. Try to let bygones be bygones and start

> > > afresh

> > > > for the child.

> > > >

> > > > The native will have to do a lot of adjustment.

> > > >

> > > > Otherwise it's very difficult.

> > > >

> > > > On another note, just recently I gave the discussion that

Krushnaji

> > > gave on

> > > > accepting time as given. Here this gentleman's wife's chart is a

> > prime

> > > > candidate on how data can be wrong and using KAS it can be pointed

> > out.

> > > > Ramesh also pointed out the improper time of his wife and so

did I.

> > > >

> > > > Actually this is based on concrete calculations and just accepting

> > > the time

> > > > given as correct is not always proper. Unless one takes proper

> > > effort to

> > > > tally events and makes sure that things are fitting right or even

> > in the

> > > > ball park.

> > > >

> > > > I will leave it to Ramesh to show and demonstrate the reason on

> why he

> > > > questioned the authenticity of birth time.

> > > >

> > > > Sometimes, people also change the dates and that I have personally

> > > > experienced. In any case, one thing is clear, that if the birth

> > time is

> > > > accurate then all the events of life will fall in place.

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > >

> > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

> <http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html/>

> ca/> ca/>

> > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > [astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]

> > On Behalf Of harjeet

> > > > bakshi

> > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 9:07 PM

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > Re: need advice-current

divorce

> > > >

> > > > Dear Amir,

> > > > i am just learning KAS...

> > > >

> > > > taking marriage 5 years ago.. might have happened in the antra

> of rahu

> > > > samdhari to saturn lord of 6th and is situated in 6th house.

> > > > now antra of ketu samdhari to moon which is having highest

point for

> > > > 7th house and situated in D... so chances of marriage to break(i

> dont

> > > > wish so.. but thats the law given in lesson).. but again rahu is

> also

> > > > samdhari to moon which has highest points for 7th house.

> > > > Ashji please guide on this one..

> > > > i think the result of marriage is spoiled because rahu being

> samdhari

> > > > to 6th lord saturn gave marriage.

> > > > also 6th lord saturn has sight on B,D and E so marriage is bad...

> > > > result might be felt specially in the antra of saturn... 2004

sep to

> > > > 2006 apr.

> > > > also during this antra gave bad results for house 4th and 7th

aswell

> > > > as 6th being in less points and 4th from sun and mercury.

> > > > venus is in dual sign in both rasi(also aspecting 2nd house

with -5

> > > > points) and navamsa.. chances of 2 marriages.

> > > > sun in 7th house.

> > > > moon aspected by ketu in navamsa and with mars in rasi.. might

cause

> > > > you to take hasty steps.

> > > > cant go more as out of time..

> > > > try to put efforts to pursue your goal. one point irrespective of

> > > > birth time in your wife's chart is that your rahu and saturn

aspects

> > > > her mars based on sign overlapping. so there would be strong

> > > > attraction between the couple... this might be the positive

factor.

> > > > thanks/regards

> > > > harjeet

> > > >

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > > <%40>

> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,

> > > > jay shanders

> > > > <phillyanyone@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Mr. ramesh

> > > > > how are you?/

> > > > > thank you so much for your reply

> > > > > as i am always gratful for all your help and i dont mean to give

> > > > you a hard time its just i depend on you so much for advice and

> > > > prediction as to my current divorce proceeding

> > > > > my wife has told me her birth time is 8:30 AM but i have a

copy of

> > > > her indian birth certificate and on there it has 9:36 AM so i

> honestly

> > > > dont know which one is for real as i cant even ask her right

> now. can

> > > > you use both and see what results you get. as using the 8:30

AM you

> > > > have said that there is no divorce now or future, does that still

> > > > hold. i just want to know that even though iam going through the

> > > > divorce proceeding should i really worry as will it go through

> and us

> > > > divorce or will it Not happen and we stay married. my birth

time is

> > > > accurate so do i have divorce and 2nd marriage in my chart ???? i

> > > > just want to know over all if me and my wife will have a long

> lasting

> > > > marriage ??

> > > > >

> > > > > please help me in any way possible as you are helping a person

> > > > save his marriage and thus i have a daughter that i worry so much

> > > > about. any further information as to my chart will be

appreciated??

> > > > > thank you

> > > > > amir

> > > > >

> > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Amir,

> > > > > Please read my all mails sincerely.You will find all

> > > > > your answers.

> > > > > I had asked you before also the correctness of

> > > > > birthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked you same

> > > > > data.

> > > > > Unless the birthtime is authenticated, all efforts

> > > > > will be useless.

> > > > > This I have already pointed you out.I think now you

> > > > > understand it.

> > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > >

> > > > > --- jay shanders <phillyanyone@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > > > > namaste

> > > > > > iam not confused as you have told me in last email

> > > > > > that there is No divorce nor or future.

> > > > > > iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for

> > > > > > consults and you have beening gicing me

> > > > > > predictions. so are you now saying that we will

> > > > > > divorce now with likely chances of reunion in feb???

> > > > > > so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce occur

> > > > > > there will not be any chances of reunion since i

> > > > > > cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would she

> > > > > > reunite with me after it ??

> > > > > > thank you

> > > > > > amir

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Amir,

> > > > > > Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in

> > > > > > the month of Feb/2008.

> > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > >

> > > > > > phillyanyone <phillyanyone@> wrote:

> > > > > > NAMASTE

> > > > > > Dear Guruji

> > > > > > Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated from my

> > > > > > wife and daughter

> > > > > > since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce

> > > > > > proceeding status.

> > > > > > because of many problems between my wife and her

> > > > > > controling parents

> > > > > > who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for

> > > > > > divorce becase of

> > > > > > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of

> > > > > > weeks going by, i

> > > > > > wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our

> > > > > > marriage and she too

> > > > > > wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now

> > > > > > her parents are

> > > > > > totally against her coming back and saving our

> > > > > > marriage. my wife does

> > > > > > not want to go aginst her parents and come back to

> > > > > > me so she says

> > > > > > thats it better to divorce and not work anything

> > > > > > else. i have tried

> > > > > > hard to convince her but nothing. we have been

> > > > > > married for 5 years,

> > > > > > on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on september

> > > > > > 8, 2006. i have

> > > > > > been told by many astrologer that neither have

> > > > > > divorce or 2nd

> > > > > > marriage so why iam I current in divorce status and

> > > > > > will my marriage

> > > > > > survive this current divorce status and me and my

> > > > > > wfie getting back

> > > > > > together. please advice as i need all the advice and

> > > > > > help i can get

> > > > > > to save my marriage and input as to what wil happen

> > > > > > as to my marriage-

> > > > > > divorce or us reuniting????

> > > > > > thank you

> > > > > > God bless

> > > > > > amir

> > > > > >

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September 19, 2007

Yes, but there is no blessing so why was

there early marriage?

Cheers !!!

On Behalf Of harjeet bakshi

Wednesday September 19, 2007

1:49 PM

Subject:

Re: need advice-current divorce

Yes sir,

as per 9:30 i guess.. conception and birth both in jupiter antra.

i hope next antra of saturn lord of D..comes out good for the native.

thanks/regards

harjeet

,

" Ash " <kas wrote:

>

> Dear Harjeet,

>

> Yes, with 8:40 AM lagna and 9th are in 5:9, with 9:30 Am, lagna and 9th

> lords are in 1:1 and not 5:9.

>

> Now also 6th lord is in 9th house but here its also LoE for 1st

house so it

> might not spoil 9th house. So yes, 8:40 AM time can be considered.

>

> Then if delay is reduced then antra after 18 years is Me and Ke who

are weak

> for 7th and then Venus comes and so Venus can give marriage.

>

> Now in this case 11th points are less than 12th so we must find out

if this

> girl has more spending trend.

>

> Here Mars is aspecting mercury who is 11th lord and Rahu is also in

11th and

> aspecting Mercury so again was there any miscarriage or a cesearean

birth?

>

> So u have to start to now confirm, with that time 4 sectors of

Mercury and 2

> of Sa are there so that can give u idea of her nature, so again confirm

> that.

>

> That is why having many events is important so yes good observation

on the

> time of 8:40 AM.

>

> If this girl does not have more spending trend then the lagna might be

> different or even the date might be different.

>

> Conception happened in dec 2005 (approx) with delivery in sept 2007

so that

> falls in Mars antra. Power for Ma is less for 11th and 5th.

>

> So that is not matching but Mo can give. After marriage in antra of

Venus,

> Sun antra came and Sun is weak for 11th so it might give or might give

> miscarriage and Mo should give conception.

>

> So again some more rectification might be required.

>

> So like that.

>

> Cheers !!!

>

> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca>

>

> _____

>

On Behalf Of harjeet

> bakshi

> Wednesday September 19, 2007 12:46 PM

>

> Re: need advice-current divorce

>

> Dear Ashji,

> if in navamsa virgo asc. arises.. then in navamsa me and venus i.e.

> lord of 1st and 9th house is in 5:9. with 8:40 am.

> with 9:30 saggi asc. in navamsa again sun and jupiter in 5:9 in rasi

> which are lord of 1st and 9th in navamsa.

> thanks/regards

> harjeet

>

> astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents ,

> " Ash " <kas@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Harjeet,

> >

> > How can 2nd lord aspect be like 6th lord. Something is wrong

> somewhere. If

> > you find that post let me know.

> >

> > 6th house is most malefic and its 12th from B = 7.

> >

> > Harjeet, if you just take Marriage in Ve antra being most powerful

> then even

> > with 8:30 AM u will still get marriage in Ve antra.

> >

> > Harjeet, please give the calculations here for computing marriage in

> detail

> > using both times. This will give u good practice.

> >

> > I will look forward to proper calculations and that will help all.

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> >

> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.

> >

> > _____

> >

> > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents

> > [astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents ]

> On Behalf Of harjeet

> > bakshi

> > Wednesday September 19, 2007 11:59 AM

> > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents

> > Re: need advice-current

divorce

> >

> > Dear Ashji/Mishraji/Amir,

> > 9:30 why cant be considered close to correct birth time ?

> > marriage happened in the antra of E and most powerful significator.

> > conception and birth of child occurs in antra of jupiter having very

> > strong points for 5th,11th and 12th house.

> > jupiter is having least points for 7th house. and is also lord of 2nd

> > house so more problems/tensions and bad result pertaining to 7th

> > house. jupiter also aspects house A,E and D with -5 points.

> > so result pertaining to this house is bad during its antra.

> > somewhere in archive i think i read to look at 2nd lord's aspect too

> > just like 6th house..please correct me if i am wrong.

> > again mars lord of 6th aspects house D and E.. and also aspects lord

> > of C. and also has low points for 7th house.

> > so the antra of mars 2004 nov to 2005 nov must have created problems

> > in married life ? if Amir can comment on this.?

> > next coming antra of saturn lord of D... early 2008 jan end or feb..

> > should bring better results ?

> > Amir can you provide some information about career of your wife.. if

> > she dont work.. or work very hard but dont earn enough and the

> > expenditure is too much from her side ?

> > thanks/regards

> > harjeet

> >

> > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,

> > " harjeet bakshi "

> > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Mishraji,

> > > for husband(Amir) chart, venus is in pisces which is dual sign.

> > > thanks/regards

> > > harjeet

> > >

> > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,

> > " Ash " <kas@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > >

> > > > Well explained with proper and concrete reasoning based on

KAS.

> > > >

> > > > That is the reason why I mentioned in my last line, that

the birth

> > > time may

> > > > still be wrong. :-)

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > >

> > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.

> ca> ca>

> > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > [astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]

> > On Behalf Of

> > > ramesh mishra

> > > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 2:12 AM

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > RE: Re: need

advice-current

> > divorce

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ash, Anup, Harjeet and all,

> > > >

> > > > The reasons for questioning the authenticity in the birth

time in

> > > respect of

> > > > his spouse are followings.

> > > >

> > > > 1.His wife married on 1 Jun 2002 during Ra / Ve.

Undoubtedly Ve

> is the

> > > > strongest significator for 7th house but there is also

combined

> > > delay caused

> > > > by Sa and Ju both.

> > > >

> > > > This delay is overcome on 29 Aug 2004 during Ra/ Mo.

> > > >

> > > > As per the given time marriage could have taken place in Ma

antara

> > > who is SD

> > > > to Mo.

> > > >

> > > > Ma is also 6th lord.

> > > >

> > > > 2. This chart indicates harmony in married life because 7th

from

> > > lagna, Su

> > > > and Mo all are in 3:11 ratio.

> > > >

> > > > 3.There is no blessings in the chart.

> > > >

> > > > 4. Both the luminaries are aspected by Sa.

> > > >

> > > > 5. Ve is under the affliction of Ra/Ke

> > > >

> > > > 6.Ma as 6th lord is in karak sthaan of 2nd and Mo the karka

lord of

> > > 2nd is

> > > > in house B for 7th. The same Mo and Ma are in 4:10

relationship in

> > > navamsa.

> > > >

> > > > This may indicate the separation and then divorce.

> > > >

> > > > But this factor is absent in her hussband chart.

> > > >

> > > > 7. 7th lord Ve is in dual sign indicating the second

marriage.

This

> > > is not

> > > > present in her husband chart.

> > > >

> > > > I thought these may be the reason which does not tally with

her

> > husband

> > > > chart.

> > > >

> > > > This may be due to wrong birth time.

> > > >

> > > > When you change the time as 9:36 AM then also nothing

changes

except

> > > > navamsa.

> > > >

> > > > You may correct me if I am wrong anywhere.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > >

> > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > >

> > > > Ash <kas@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Here if you cast the chart of the natives wife with the

given time

> > > of 8:30

> > > > am, marriage happens in the highest power planet of Venus,

and yet

> > > Ramesh

> > > > and I both questioned the time of birth.

> > > >

> > > > And it turns out that the birth certificate time is of 9:32

AM

which

> > > is more

> > > > than 1 hour difference. Even still the birth time might be

wrong.

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > >

> > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.

> ca/> ca/>

> > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > [astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]

> > On Behalf Of Ash

> > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 10:38 PM

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > RE: Re: need

advice-current

> > divorce

> > > >

> > > > Dear Harjeet and All,

> > > >

> > > > Here the native has blessing if this chart is accurate.

Most

of the

> > > points

> > > > are less in 7th house so results are showing.

> > > >

> > > > Now, 6th lord is Saturn and its with 3 bindus in 10th

house. So

> > > from there

> > > > he aspects 7th i.e LoB, House E, House D, LoA and LoC in

Navamsa.

> > > So here

> > > > results are more severe.

> > > >

> > > > Here for Quality, remove -5 points from 12th, 7th and 4th

and from

> > > Mercury

> > > > and sun as well for quality i.e. 5 points more to offset

bad

effects

> > > of 6th

> > > > lord.

> > > >

> > > > So only Moon is good for timing and quality.

> > > >

> > > > From lagna, sun, mo, ve and Ma all are in 4:10, 2:12, 4:10,

3:11 and

> > > 2:12.

> > > >

> > > > Lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 in navamsa.

> > > >

> > > > As you have said, there is full delay of Sa for 27 years

and then

> > of Ju

> > > > after that. So marriage can happen in Rahu who is SD to 6th

lord

> > > and 7th

> > > > lord Sa and Mo.

> > > >

> > > > After marriage, antra running have been of Ju who has less

power in

> > > 7th, and

> > > > then after that Mercury who is 2nd lord and less power in

7th

> house.

> > > >

> > > > Child birth in Sa antra who is SD to Ve the strongest

significator

> > > for 5th

> > > > house and Sa is NSD to Ve.

> > > >

> > > > Now the native is running Ketu antra and Ketu is in House E

for 7th

> > > as B and

> > > > SD to Mo so again strong feelings are there and at the same

time its

> > > SD to

> > > > Sa as well so again it can't give full happiness.

> > > >

> > > > After that again the antras are not strong for 7th house,

sun

has 12

> > > points

> > > > but again its aspected by Sa so quality is still poor.

> > > >

> > > > My suggestion in this case would be to try to reconcile

with his

> > > wife and to

> > > > use the power of blessing. Try to let bygones be bygones

and start

> > > afresh

> > > > for the child.

> > > >

> > > > The native will have to do a lot of adjustment.

> > > >

> > > > Otherwise it's very difficult.

> > > >

> > > > On another note, just recently I gave the discussion that

Krushnaji

> > > gave on

> > > > accepting time as given. Here this gentleman's wife's chart

is a

> > prime

> > > > candidate on how data can be wrong and using KAS it can be

pointed

> > out.

> > > > Ramesh also pointed out the improper time of his wife and

so

did I.

> > > >

> > > > Actually this is based on concrete calculations and just

accepting

> > > the time

> > > > given as correct is not always proper. Unless one takes

proper

> > > effort to

> > > > tally events and makes sure that things are fitting right

or even

> > in the

> > > > ball park.

> > > >

> > > > I will leave it to Ramesh to show and demonstrate the

reason on

> why he

> > > > questioned the authenticity of birth time.

> > > >

> > > > Sometimes, people also change the dates and that I have

personally

> > > > experienced. In any case, one thing is clear, that if the

birth

> > time is

> > > > accurate then all the events of life will fall in place.

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > >

> > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.

> <http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html/>

> ca/> ca/>

> > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > [astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]

> > On Behalf Of harjeet

> > > > bakshi

> > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 9:07 PM

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > Re: need

advice-current

divorce

> > > >

> > > > Dear Amir,

> > > > i am just learning KAS...

> > > >

> > > > taking marriage 5 years ago.. might have happened in the

antra

> of rahu

> > > > samdhari to saturn lord of 6th and is situated in 6th

house.

> > > > now antra of ketu samdhari to moon which is having highest

point for

> > > > 7th house and situated in D... so chances of marriage to

break(i

> dont

> > > > wish so.. but thats the law given in lesson).. but again

rahu is

> also

> > > > samdhari to moon which has highest points for 7th house.

> > > > Ashji please guide on this one..

> > > > i think the result of marriage is spoiled because rahu

being

> samdhari

> > > > to 6th lord saturn gave marriage.

> > > > also 6th lord saturn has sight on B,D and E so marriage is

bad...

> > > > result might be felt specially in the antra of saturn...

2004

sep to

> > > > 2006 apr.

> > > > also during this antra gave bad results for house 4th and

7th

aswell

> > > > as 6th being in less points and 4th from sun and mercury.

> > > > venus is in dual sign in both rasi(also aspecting 2nd house

with -5

> > > > points) and navamsa.. chances of 2 marriages.

> > > > sun in 7th house.

> > > > moon aspected by ketu in navamsa and with mars in rasi..

might

cause

> > > > you to take hasty steps.

> > > > cant go more as out of time..

> > > > try to put efforts to pursue your goal. one point

irrespective of

> > > > birth time in your wife's chart is that your rahu and

saturn

aspects

> > > > her mars based on sign overlapping. so there would be

strong

> > > > attraction between the couple... this might be the positive

factor.

> > > > thanks/regards

> > > > harjeet

> > > >

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > > <%40>

> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40>

com,

> > > > jay shanders

> > > > <phillyanyone@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Mr. ramesh

> > > > > how are you?/

> > > > > thank you so much for your reply

> > > > > as i am always gratful for all your help and i dont

mean to give

> > > > you a hard time its just i depend on you so much for advice

and

> > > > prediction as to my current divorce proceeding

> > > > > my wife has told me her birth time is 8:30 AM but i

have a

copy of

> > > > her indian birth certificate and on there it has 9:36 AM so

i

> honestly

> > > > dont know which one is for real as i cant even ask her

right

> now. can

> > > > you use both and see what results you get. as using the

8:30

AM you

> > > > have said that there is no divorce now or future, does that

still

> > > > hold. i just want to know that even though iam going

through the

> > > > divorce proceeding should i really worry as will it go

through

> and us

> > > > divorce or will it Not happen and we stay married. my birth

time is

> > > > accurate so do i have divorce and 2nd marriage in my chart

???? i

> > > > just want to know over all if me and my wife will have a

long

> lasting

> > > > marriage ??

> > > > >

> > > > > please help me in any way possible as you are helping

a person

> > > > save his marriage and thus i have a daughter that i worry

so much

> > > > about. any further information as to my chart will be

appreciated??

> > > > > thank you

> > > > > amir

> > > > >

> > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Amir,

> > > > > Please read my all mails sincerely.You will find all

> > > > > your answers.

> > > > > I had asked you before also the correctness of

> > > > > birthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked you same

> > > > > data.

> > > > > Unless the birthtime is authenticated, all efforts

> > > > > will be useless.

> > > > > This I have already pointed you out.I think now you

> > > > > understand it.

> > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > >

> > > > > --- jay shanders <phillyanyone@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > > > > namaste

> > > > > > iam not confused as you have told me in last

email

> > > > > > that there is No divorce nor or future.

> > > > > > iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for

> > > > > > consults and you have beening gicing me

> > > > > > predictions. so are you now saying that we will

> > > > > > divorce now with likely chances of reunion in

feb???

> > > > > > so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce occur

> > > > > > there will not be any chances of reunion since i

> > > > > > cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would

she

> > > > > > reunite with me after it ??

> > > > > > thank you

> > > > > > amir

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@>

wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Amir,

> > > > > > Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in

> > > > > > the month of Feb/2008.

> > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > >

> > > > > > phillyanyone <phillyanyone@> wrote:

> > > > > > NAMASTE

> > > > > > Dear Guruji

> > > > > > Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated from

my

> > > > > > wife and daughter

> > > > > > since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce

> > > > > > proceeding status.

> > > > > > because of many problems between my wife and her

> > > > > > controling parents

> > > > > > who have strong influence on her i hastly filed

for

> > > > > > divorce becase of

> > > > > > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of

> > > > > > weeks going by, i

> > > > > > wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our

> > > > > > marriage and she too

> > > > > > wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now

> > > > > > her parents are

> > > > > > totally against her coming back and saving our

> > > > > > marriage. my wife does

> > > > > > not want to go aginst her parents and come back

to

> > > > > > me so she says

> > > > > > thats it better to divorce and not work anything

> > > > > > else. i have tried

> > > > > > hard to convince her but nothing. we have been

> > > > > > married for 5 years,

> > > > > > on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on

september

> > > > > > 8, 2006. i have

> > > > > > been told by many astrologer that neither have

> > > > > > divorce or 2nd

> > > > > > marriage so why iam I current in divorce status

and

> > > > > > will my marriage

> > > > > > survive this current divorce status and me and my

> > > > > > wfie getting back

> > > > > > together. please advice as i need all the advice

and

> > > > > > help i can get

> > > > > > to save my marriage and input as to what wil

happen

> > > > > > as to my marriage-

> > > > > > divorce or us reuniting????

> > > > > > thank you

> > > > > > God bless

> > > > > > amir

> > > > > >

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September 19, 2007

Dear Sir,

as per 9:30, saggitarius asc. in navamsa. now lord of navamsa and 9th

lord in navamsa jupiter and sun are 5:9 in rasi as stated in previous

mail.

thanks/regards

harjeet

, " Ash " <kas wrote:

>

> Yes, but there is no blessing so why was there early marriage?

>

> Cheers !!!

>

> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

> _____

>

> On Behalf Of harjeet

> bakshi

> Wednesday September 19, 2007 1:49 PM

>

> Re: need advice-current divorce

>

> Yes sir,

> as per 9:30 i guess.. conception and birth both in jupiter antra.

> i hope next antra of saturn lord of D..comes out good for the native.

> thanks/regards

> harjeet

>

> astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents ,

> " Ash " <kas@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Harjeet,

> >

> > Yes, with 8:40 AM lagna and 9th are in 5:9, with 9:30 Am, lagna

and 9th

> > lords are in 1:1 and not 5:9.

> >

> > Now also 6th lord is in 9th house but here its also LoE for 1st

> house so it

> > might not spoil 9th house. So yes, 8:40 AM time can be considered.

> >

> > Then if delay is reduced then antra after 18 years is Me and Ke who

> are weak

> > for 7th and then Venus comes and so Venus can give marriage.

> >

> > Now in this case 11th points are less than 12th so we must find out

> if this

> > girl has more spending trend.

> >

> > Here Mars is aspecting mercury who is 11th lord and Rahu is also in

> 11th and

> > aspecting Mercury so again was there any miscarriage or a cesearean

> birth?

> >

> > So u have to start to now confirm, with that time 4 sectors of

> Mercury and 2

> > of Sa are there so that can give u idea of her nature, so again

confirm

> > that.

> >

> > That is why having many events is important so yes good observation

> on the

> > time of 8:40 AM.

> >

> > If this girl does not have more spending trend then the lagna might be

> > different or even the date might be different.

> >

> > Conception happened in dec 2005 (approx) with delivery in sept 2007

> so that

> > falls in Mars antra. Power for Ma is less for 11th and 5th.

> >

> > So that is not matching but Mo can give. After marriage in antra of

> Venus,

> > Sun antra came and Sun is weak for 11th so it might give or might give

> > miscarriage and Mo should give conception.

> >

> > So again some more rectification might be required.

> >

> > So like that.

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> >

> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca>

> >

> > _____

> >

> > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents

> > [astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents ]

> On Behalf Of harjeet

> > bakshi

> > Wednesday September 19, 2007 12:46 PM

> > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents

> > Re: need advice-current divorce

> >

> > Dear Ashji,

> > if in navamsa virgo asc. arises.. then in navamsa me and venus i.e.

> > lord of 1st and 9th house is in 5:9. with 8:40 am.

> > with 9:30 saggi asc. in navamsa again sun and jupiter in 5:9 in rasi

> > which are lord of 1st and 9th in navamsa.

> > thanks/regards

> > harjeet

> >

> > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,

> > " Ash " <kas@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Harjeet,

> > >

> > > How can 2nd lord aspect be like 6th lord. Something is wrong

> > somewhere. If

> > > you find that post let me know.

> > >

> > > 6th house is most malefic and its 12th from B = 7.

> > >

> > > Harjeet, if you just take Marriage in Ve antra being most powerful

> > then even

> > > with 8:30 AM u will still get marriage in Ve antra.

> > >

> > > Harjeet, please give the calculations here for computing marriage in

> > detail

> > > using both times. This will give u good practice.

> > >

> > > I will look forward to proper calculations and that will help all.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > >

> > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

> ca> ca>

> > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > [astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]

> > On Behalf Of harjeet

> > > bakshi

> > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 11:59 AM

> > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > Re: need advice-current divorce

> > >

> > > Dear Ashji/Mishraji/Amir,

> > > 9:30 why cant be considered close to correct birth time ?

> > > marriage happened in the antra of E and most powerful significator.

> > > conception and birth of child occurs in antra of jupiter having very

> > > strong points for 5th,11th and 12th house.

> > > jupiter is having least points for 7th house. and is also lord

of 2nd

> > > house so more problems/tensions and bad result pertaining to 7th

> > > house. jupiter also aspects house A,E and D with -5 points.

> > > so result pertaining to this house is bad during its antra.

> > > somewhere in archive i think i read to look at 2nd lord's aspect too

> > > just like 6th house..please correct me if i am wrong.

> > > again mars lord of 6th aspects house D and E.. and also aspects lord

> > > of C. and also has low points for 7th house.

> > > so the antra of mars 2004 nov to 2005 nov must have created problems

> > > in married life ? if Amir can comment on this.?

> > > next coming antra of saturn lord of D... early 2008 jan end or feb..

> > > should bring better results ?

> > > Amir can you provide some information about career of your wife.. if

> > > she dont work.. or work very hard but dont earn enough and the

> > > expenditure is too much from her side ?

> > > thanks/regards

> > > harjeet

> > >

> > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,

> > > " harjeet bakshi "

> > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Mishraji,

> > > > for husband(Amir) chart, venus is in pisces which is dual sign.

> > > > thanks/regards

> > > > harjeet

> > > >

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,

> > > " Ash " <kas@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > > >

> > > > > Well explained with proper and concrete reasoning based on KAS.

> > > > >

> > > > > That is the reason why I mentioned in my last line, that the

birth

> > > > time may

> > > > > still be wrong. :-)

> > > > >

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > >

> > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

> > ca> ca>

> > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca>

ca> ca>

> ca

> > > > >

> > > > > _____

> > > > >

> > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > > [astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]

> > > On Behalf Of

> > > > ramesh mishra

> > > > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 2:12 AM

> > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > > RE: Re: need advice-current

> > > divorce

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Ash, Anup, Harjeet and all,

> > > > >

> > > > > The reasons for questioning the authenticity in the birth

time in

> > > > respect of

> > > > > his spouse are followings.

> > > > >

> > > > > 1.His wife married on 1 Jun 2002 during Ra / Ve. Undoubtedly Ve

> > is the

> > > > > strongest significator for 7th house but there is also combined

> > > > delay caused

> > > > > by Sa and Ju both.

> > > > >

> > > > > This delay is overcome on 29 Aug 2004 during Ra/ Mo.

> > > > >

> > > > > As per the given time marriage could have taken place in Ma

antara

> > > > who is SD

> > > > > to Mo.

> > > > >

> > > > > Ma is also 6th lord.

> > > > >

> > > > > 2. This chart indicates harmony in married life because 7th from

> > > > lagna, Su

> > > > > and Mo all are in 3:11 ratio.

> > > > >

> > > > > 3.There is no blessings in the chart.

> > > > >

> > > > > 4. Both the luminaries are aspected by Sa.

> > > > >

> > > > > 5. Ve is under the affliction of Ra/Ke

> > > > >

> > > > > 6.Ma as 6th lord is in karak sthaan of 2nd and Mo the karka

> lord of

> > > > 2nd is

> > > > > in house B for 7th. The same Mo and Ma are in 4:10

relationship in

> > > > navamsa.

> > > > >

> > > > > This may indicate the separation and then divorce.

> > > > >

> > > > > But this factor is absent in her hussband chart.

> > > > >

> > > > > 7. 7th lord Ve is in dual sign indicating the second marriage.

> This

> > > > is not

> > > > > present in her husband chart.

> > > > >

> > > > > I thought these may be the reason which does not tally with her

> > > husband

> > > > > chart.

> > > > >

> > > > > This may be due to wrong birth time.

> > > > >

> > > > > When you change the time as 9:36 AM then also nothing changes

> except

> > > > > navamsa.

> > > > >

> > > > > You may correct me if I am wrong anywhere.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > >

> > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > >

> > > > > Ash <kas@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Here if you cast the chart of the natives wife with the

given time

> > > > of 8:30

> > > > > am, marriage happens in the highest power planet of Venus,

and yet

> > > > Ramesh

> > > > > and I both questioned the time of birth.

> > > > >

> > > > > And it turns out that the birth certificate time is of 9:32 AM

> which

> > > > is more

> > > > > than 1 hour difference. Even still the birth time might be

wrong.

> > > > >

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > >

> > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

> > ca/> ca/>

> > > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> ca

> > > > >

> > > > > _____

> > > > >

> > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > > [astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]

> > > On Behalf Of Ash

> > > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 10:38 PM

> > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > > RE: Re: need advice-current

> > > divorce

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Harjeet and All,

> > > > >

> > > > > Here the native has blessing if this chart is accurate. Most

> of the

> > > > points

> > > > > are less in 7th house so results are showing.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now, 6th lord is Saturn and its with 3 bindus in 10th house. So

> > > > from there

> > > > > he aspects 7th i.e LoB, House E, House D, LoA and LoC in

Navamsa.

> > > > So here

> > > > > results are more severe.

> > > > >

> > > > > Here for Quality, remove -5 points from 12th, 7th and 4th

and from

> > > > Mercury

> > > > > and sun as well for quality i.e. 5 points more to offset bad

> effects

> > > > of 6th

> > > > > lord.

> > > > >

> > > > > So only Moon is good for timing and quality.

> > > > >

> > > > > From lagna, sun, mo, ve and Ma all are in 4:10, 2:12, 4:10,

> 3:11 and

> > > > 2:12.

> > > > >

> > > > > Lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 in navamsa.

> > > > >

> > > > > As you have said, there is full delay of Sa for 27 years and

then

> > > of Ju

> > > > > after that. So marriage can happen in Rahu who is SD to 6th lord

> > > > and 7th

> > > > > lord Sa and Mo.

> > > > >

> > > > > After marriage, antra running have been of Ju who has less

> power in

> > > > 7th, and

> > > > > then after that Mercury who is 2nd lord and less power in 7th

> > house.

> > > > >

> > > > > Child birth in Sa antra who is SD to Ve the strongest

significator

> > > > for 5th

> > > > > house and Sa is NSD to Ve.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now the native is running Ketu antra and Ketu is in House E

> for 7th

> > > > as B and

> > > > > SD to Mo so again strong feelings are there and at the same

> time its

> > > > SD to

> > > > > Sa as well so again it can't give full happiness.

> > > > >

> > > > > After that again the antras are not strong for 7th house, sun

> has 12

> > > > points

> > > > > but again its aspected by Sa so quality is still poor.

> > > > >

> > > > > My suggestion in this case would be to try to reconcile with his

> > > > wife and to

> > > > > use the power of blessing. Try to let bygones be bygones and

start

> > > > afresh

> > > > > for the child.

> > > > >

> > > > > The native will have to do a lot of adjustment.

> > > > >

> > > > > Otherwise it's very difficult.

> > > > >

> > > > > On another note, just recently I gave the discussion that

> Krushnaji

> > > > gave on

> > > > > accepting time as given. Here this gentleman's wife's chart is a

> > > prime

> > > > > candidate on how data can be wrong and using KAS it can be

pointed

> > > out.

> > > > > Ramesh also pointed out the improper time of his wife and so

> did I.

> > > > >

> > > > > Actually this is based on concrete calculations and just

accepting

> > > > the time

> > > > > given as correct is not always proper. Unless one takes proper

> > > > effort to

> > > > > tally events and makes sure that things are fitting right or

even

> > > in the

> > > > > ball park.

> > > > >

> > > > > I will leave it to Ramesh to show and demonstrate the reason on

> > why he

> > > > > questioned the authenticity of birth time.

> > > > >

> > > > > Sometimes, people also change the dates and that I have

personally

> > > > > experienced. In any case, one thing is clear, that if the birth

> > > time is

> > > > > accurate then all the events of life will fall in place.

> > > > >

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > >

> > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

> <http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html/>

> > ca/> ca/>

> > > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> ca

> > > > >

> > > > > _____

> > > > >

> > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > > [astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]

> > > On Behalf Of harjeet

> > > > > bakshi

> > > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 9:07 PM

> > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > > Re: need advice-current

> divorce

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Amir,

> > > > > i am just learning KAS...

> > > > >

> > > > > taking marriage 5 years ago.. might have happened in the antra

> > of rahu

> > > > > samdhari to saturn lord of 6th and is situated in 6th house.

> > > > > now antra of ketu samdhari to moon which is having highest

> point for

> > > > > 7th house and situated in D... so chances of marriage to break(i

> > dont

> > > > > wish so.. but thats the law given in lesson).. but again rahu is

> > also

> > > > > samdhari to moon which has highest points for 7th house.

> > > > > Ashji please guide on this one..

> > > > > i think the result of marriage is spoiled because rahu being

> > samdhari

> > > > > to 6th lord saturn gave marriage.

> > > > > also 6th lord saturn has sight on B,D and E so marriage is

bad...

> > > > > result might be felt specially in the antra of saturn... 2004

> sep to

> > > > > 2006 apr.

> > > > > also during this antra gave bad results for house 4th and 7th

> aswell

> > > > > as 6th being in less points and 4th from sun and mercury.

> > > > > venus is in dual sign in both rasi(also aspecting 2nd house

> with -5

> > > > > points) and navamsa.. chances of 2 marriages.

> > > > > sun in 7th house.

> > > > > moon aspected by ketu in navamsa and with mars in rasi.. might

> cause

> > > > > you to take hasty steps.

> > > > > cant go more as out of time..

> > > > > try to put efforts to pursue your goal. one point

irrespective of

> > > > > birth time in your wife's chart is that your rahu and saturn

> aspects

> > > > > her mars based on sign overlapping. so there would be strong

> > > > > attraction between the couple... this might be the positive

> factor.

> > > > > thanks/regards

> > > > > harjeet

> > > > >

> > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > > > <%40>

> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,

> > > > > jay shanders

> > > > > <phillyanyone@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Mr. ramesh

> > > > > > how are you?/

> > > > > > thank you so much for your reply

> > > > > > as i am always gratful for all your help and i dont mean

to give

> > > > > you a hard time its just i depend on you so much for advice and

> > > > > prediction as to my current divorce proceeding

> > > > > > my wife has told me her birth time is 8:30 AM but i have a

> copy of

> > > > > her indian birth certificate and on there it has 9:36 AM so i

> > honestly

> > > > > dont know which one is for real as i cant even ask her right

> > now. can

> > > > > you use both and see what results you get. as using the 8:30

> AM you

> > > > > have said that there is no divorce now or future, does that

still

> > > > > hold. i just want to know that even though iam going through the

> > > > > divorce proceeding should i really worry as will it go through

> > and us

> > > > > divorce or will it Not happen and we stay married. my birth

> time is

> > > > > accurate so do i have divorce and 2nd marriage in my chart

???? i

> > > > > just want to know over all if me and my wife will have a long

> > lasting

> > > > > marriage ??

> > > > > >

> > > > > > please help me in any way possible as you are helping a person

> > > > > save his marriage and thus i have a daughter that i worry so

much

> > > > > about. any further information as to my chart will be

> appreciated??

> > > > > > thank you

> > > > > > amir

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Amir,

> > > > > > Please read my all mails sincerely.You will find all

> > > > > > your answers.

> > > > > > I had asked you before also the correctness of

> > > > > > birthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked you same

> > > > > > data.

> > > > > > Unless the birthtime is authenticated, all efforts

> > > > > > will be useless.

> > > > > > This I have already pointed you out.I think now you

> > > > > > understand it.

> > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- jay shanders <phillyanyone@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > > > > > namaste

> > > > > > > iam not confused as you have told me in last email

> > > > > > > that there is No divorce nor or future.

> > > > > > > iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for

> > > > > > > consults and you have beening gicing me

> > > > > > > predictions. so are you now saying that we will

> > > > > > > divorce now with likely chances of reunion in feb???

> > > > > > > so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce occur

> > > > > > > there will not be any chances of reunion since i

> > > > > > > cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would she

> > > > > > > reunite with me after it ??

> > > > > > > thank you

> > > > > > > amir

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear Amir,

> > > > > > > Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in

> > > > > > > the month of Feb/2008.

> > > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > phillyanyone <phillyanyone@> wrote:

> > > > > > > NAMASTE

> > > > > > > Dear Guruji

> > > > > > > Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated from my

> > > > > > > wife and daughter

> > > > > > > since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce

> > > > > > > proceeding status.

> > > > > > > because of many problems between my wife and her

> > > > > > > controling parents

> > > > > > > who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for

> > > > > > > divorce becase of

> > > > > > > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of

> > > > > > > weeks going by, i

> > > > > > > wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our

> > > > > > > marriage and she too

> > > > > > > wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now

> > > > > > > her parents are

> > > > > > > totally against her coming back and saving our

> > > > > > > marriage. my wife does

> > > > > > > not want to go aginst her parents and come back to

> > > > > > > me so she says

> > > > > > > thats it better to divorce and not work anything

> > > > > > > else. i have tried

> > > > > > > hard to convince her but nothing. we have been

> > > > > > > married for 5 years,

> > > > > > > on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on september

> > > > > > > 8, 2006. i have

> > > > > > > been told by many astrologer that neither have

> > > > > > > divorce or 2nd

> > > > > > > marriage so why iam I current in divorce status and

> > > > > > > will my marriage

> > > > > > > survive this current divorce status and me and my

> > > > > > > wfie getting back

> > > > > > > together. please advice as i need all the advice and

> > > > > > > help i can get

> > > > > > > to save my marriage and input as to what wil happen

> > > > > > > as to my marriage-

> > > > > > > divorce or us reuniting????

> > > > > > > thank you

> > > > > > > God bless

> > > > > > > amir

> > > > > > >

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September 19, 2007

How ?

Ju and Sun are in 3rd house

they are not in 5:9?

Am I seeing something different ?

Cheers !!!

On Behalf Of harjeet bakshi

Wednesday September 19, 2007

2:46 PM

Subject:

Re: need advice-current divorce

Dear Sir,

as per 9:30, saggitarius asc. in navamsa. now lord of navamsa and 9th

lord in navamsa jupiter and sun are 5:9 in rasi as stated in previous

mail.

thanks/regards

harjeet

,

" Ash " <kas wrote:

>

> Yes, but there is no blessing so why was there early marriage?

>

> Cheers !!!

>

> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca>

>

> _____

>

On Behalf Of harjeet

> bakshi

> Wednesday September 19, 2007 1:49 PM

>

> Re: need advice-current divorce

>

> Yes sir,

> as per 9:30 i guess.. conception and birth both in jupiter antra.

> i hope next antra of saturn lord of D..comes out good for the native.

> thanks/regards

> harjeet

>

> astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents ,

> " Ash " <kas@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Harjeet,

> >

> > Yes, with 8:40 AM lagna and 9th are in 5:9, with 9:30 Am, lagna

and 9th

> > lords are in 1:1 and not 5:9.

> >

> > Now also 6th lord is in 9th house but here its also LoE for 1st

> house so it

> > might not spoil 9th house. So yes, 8:40 AM time can be considered.

> >

> > Then if delay is reduced then antra after 18 years is Me and Ke who

> are weak

> > for 7th and then Venus comes and so Venus can give marriage.

> >

> > Now in this case 11th points are less than 12th so we must find out

> if this

> > girl has more spending trend.

> >

> > Here Mars is aspecting mercury who is 11th lord and Rahu is also in

> 11th and

> > aspecting Mercury so again was there any miscarriage or a cesearean

> birth?

> >

> > So u have to start to now confirm, with that time 4 sectors of

> Mercury and 2

> > of Sa are there so that can give u idea of her nature, so again

confirm

> > that.

> >

> > That is why having many events is important so yes good observation

> on the

> > time of 8:40 AM.

> >

> > If this girl does not have more spending trend then the lagna might

be

> > different or even the date might be different.

> >

> > Conception happened in dec 2005 (approx) with delivery in sept 2007

> so that

> > falls in Mars antra. Power for Ma is less for 11th and 5th.

> >

> > So that is not matching but Mo can give. After marriage in antra of

> Venus,

> > Sun antra came and Sun is weak for 11th so it might give or might

give

> > miscarriage and Mo should give conception.

> >

> > So again some more rectification might be required.

> >

> > So like that.

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> >

> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.

> >

> > _____

> >

> > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents

> > [astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents ]

> On Behalf Of harjeet

> > bakshi

> > Wednesday September 19, 2007 12:46 PM

> > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents

> > Re: need advice-current

divorce

> >

> > Dear Ashji,

> > if in navamsa virgo asc. arises.. then in navamsa me and venus i.e.

> > lord of 1st and 9th house is in 5:9. with 8:40 am.

> > with 9:30 saggi asc. in navamsa again sun and jupiter in 5:9 in rasi

> > which are lord of 1st and 9th in navamsa.

> > thanks/regards

> > harjeet

> >

> > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,

> > " Ash " <kas@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Harjeet,

> > >

> > > How can 2nd lord aspect be like 6th lord. Something is wrong

> > somewhere. If

> > > you find that post let me know.

> > >

> > > 6th house is most malefic and its 12th from B = 7.

> > >

> > > Harjeet, if you just take Marriage in Ve antra being most

powerful

> > then even

> > > with 8:30 AM u will still get marriage in Ve antra.

> > >

> > > Harjeet, please give the calculations here for computing

marriage in

> > detail

> > > using both times. This will give u good practice.

> > >

> > > I will look forward to proper calculations and that will help

all.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > >

> > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.

> ca> ca>

> > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > [astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]

> > On Behalf Of harjeet

> > > bakshi

> > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 11:59 AM

> > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > Re: need advice-current

divorce

> > >

> > > Dear Ashji/Mishraji/Amir,

> > > 9:30 why cant be considered close to correct birth time ?

> > > marriage happened in the antra of E and most powerful

significator.

> > > conception and birth of child occurs in antra of jupiter having

very

> > > strong points for 5th,11th and 12th house.

> > > jupiter is having least points for 7th house. and is also lord

of 2nd

> > > house so more problems/tensions and bad result pertaining to 7th

> > > house. jupiter also aspects house A,E and D with -5 points.

> > > so result pertaining to this house is bad during its antra.

> > > somewhere in archive i think i read to look at 2nd lord's aspect

too

> > > just like 6th house..please correct me if i am wrong.

> > > again mars lord of 6th aspects house D and E.. and also aspects

lord

> > > of C. and also has low points for 7th house.

> > > so the antra of mars 2004 nov to 2005 nov must have created

problems

> > > in married life ? if Amir can comment on this.?

> > > next coming antra of saturn lord of D... early 2008 jan end or

feb..

> > > should bring better results ?

> > > Amir can you provide some information about career of your

wife.. if

> > > she dont work.. or work very hard but dont earn enough and the

> > > expenditure is too much from her side ?

> > > thanks/regards

> > > harjeet

> > >

> > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40>

com,

> > > " harjeet bakshi "

> > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Mishraji,

> > > > for husband(Amir) chart, venus is in pisces which is dual

sign.

> > > > thanks/regards

> > > > harjeet

> > > >

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40>

com,

> > > " Ash " <kas@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > > >

> > > > > Well explained with proper and concrete reasoning

based on KAS.

> > > > >

> > > > > That is the reason why I mentioned in my last line,

that the

birth

> > > > time may

> > > > > still be wrong. :-)

> > > > >

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > >

> > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.

> > ca> ca>

> > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca>

ca> ca>

> ca

> > > > >

> > > > > _____

> > > > >

> > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40>

com

> > > > > [astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40>

com]

> > > On Behalf Of

> > > > ramesh mishra

> > > > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 2:12 AM

> > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40>

com

> > > > > RE: Re: need

advice-current

> > > divorce

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Ash, Anup, Harjeet and all,

> > > > >

> > > > > The reasons for questioning the authenticity in the

birth

time in

> > > > respect of

> > > > > his spouse are followings.

> > > > >

> > > > > 1.His wife married on 1 Jun 2002 during Ra / Ve.

Undoubtedly Ve

> > is the

> > > > > strongest significator for 7th house but there is also

combined

> > > > delay caused

> > > > > by Sa and Ju both.

> > > > >

> > > > > This delay is overcome on 29 Aug 2004 during Ra/ Mo.

> > > > >

> > > > > As per the given time marriage could have taken place

in Ma

antara

> > > > who is SD

> > > > > to Mo.

> > > > >

> > > > > Ma is also 6th lord.

> > > > >

> > > > > 2. This chart indicates harmony in married life

because 7th from

> > > > lagna, Su

> > > > > and Mo all are in 3:11 ratio.

> > > > >

> > > > > 3.There is no blessings in the chart.

> > > > >

> > > > > 4. Both the luminaries are aspected by Sa.

> > > > >

> > > > > 5. Ve is under the affliction of Ra/Ke

> > > > >

> > > > > 6.Ma as 6th lord is in karak sthaan of 2nd and Mo the

karka

> lord of

> > > > 2nd is

> > > > > in house B for 7th. The same Mo and Ma are in 4:10

relationship in

> > > > navamsa.

> > > > >

> > > > > This may indicate the separation and then divorce.

> > > > >

> > > > > But this factor is absent in her hussband chart.

> > > > >

> > > > > 7. 7th lord Ve is in dual sign indicating the second

marriage.

> This

> > > > is not

> > > > > present in her husband chart.

> > > > >

> > > > > I thought these may be the reason which does not tally

with her

> > > husband

> > > > > chart.

> > > > >

> > > > > This may be due to wrong birth time.

> > > > >

> > > > > When you change the time as 9:36 AM then also nothing

changes

> except

> > > > > navamsa.

> > > > >

> > > > > You may correct me if I am wrong anywhere.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > >

> > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > >

> > > > > Ash <kas@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Here if you cast the chart of the natives wife with

the

given time

> > > > of 8:30

> > > > > am, marriage happens in the highest power planet of

Venus,

and yet

> > > > Ramesh

> > > > > and I both questioned the time of birth.

> > > > >

> > > > > And it turns out that the birth certificate time is of

9:32 AM

> which

> > > > is more

> > > > > than 1 hour difference. Even still the birth time

might be

wrong.

> > > > >

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > >

> > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.

> > ca/> ca/>

> > > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

ca> ca> ca

> > > > >

> > > > > _____

> > > > >

> > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40>

com

> > > > > [astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40>

com]

> > > On Behalf Of Ash

> > > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 10:38 PM

> > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40>

com

> > > > > RE: Re: need

advice-current

> > > divorce

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Harjeet and All,

> > > > >

> > > > > Here the native has blessing if this chart is

accurate. Most

> of the

> > > > points

> > > > > are less in 7th house so results are showing.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now, 6th lord is Saturn and its with 3 bindus in 10th

house. So

> > > > from there

> > > > > he aspects 7th i.e LoB, House E, House D, LoA and LoC

in

Navamsa.

> > > > So here

> > > > > results are more severe.

> > > > >

> > > > > Here for Quality, remove -5 points from 12th, 7th and

4th

and from

> > > > Mercury

> > > > > and sun as well for quality i.e. 5 points more to

offset bad

> effects

> > > > of 6th

> > > > > lord.

> > > > >

> > > > > So only Moon is good for timing and quality.

> > > > >

> > > > > From lagna, sun, mo, ve and Ma all are in 4:10, 2:12,

4:10,

> 3:11 and

> > > > 2:12.

> > > > >

> > > > > Lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 in navamsa.

> > > > >

> > > > > As you have said, there is full delay of Sa for 27

years and

then

> > > of Ju

> > > > > after that. So marriage can happen in Rahu who is SD

to 6th lord

> > > > and 7th

> > > > > lord Sa and Mo.

> > > > >

> > > > > After marriage, antra running have been of Ju who has

less

> power in

> > > > 7th, and

> > > > > then after that Mercury who is 2nd lord and less power

in 7th

> > house.

> > > > >

> > > > > Child birth in Sa antra who is SD to Ve the strongest

significator

> > > > for 5th

> > > > > house and Sa is NSD to Ve.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now the native is running Ketu antra and Ketu is in

House E

> for 7th

> > > > as B and

> > > > > SD to Mo so again strong feelings are there and at the

same

> time its

> > > > SD to

> > > > > Sa as well so again it can't give full happiness.

> > > > >

> > > > > After that again the antras are not strong for 7th

house, sun

> has 12

> > > > points

> > > > > but again its aspected by Sa so quality is still poor.

> > > > >

> > > > > My suggestion in this case would be to try to

reconcile with his

> > > > wife and to

> > > > > use the power of blessing. Try to let bygones be

bygones and

start

> > > > afresh

> > > > > for the child.

> > > > >

> > > > > The native will have to do a lot of adjustment.

> > > > >

> > > > > Otherwise it's very difficult.

> > > > >

> > > > > On another note, just recently I gave the discussion

that

> Krushnaji

> > > > gave on

> > > > > accepting time as given. Here this gentleman's wife's

chart is a

> > > prime

> > > > > candidate on how data can be wrong and using KAS it

can be

pointed

> > > out.

> > > > > Ramesh also pointed out the improper time of his wife

and so

> did I.

> > > > >

> > > > > Actually this is based on concrete calculations and

just

accepting

> > > > the time

> > > > > given as correct is not always proper. Unless one

takes proper

> > > > effort to

> > > > > tally events and makes sure that things are fitting

right or

even

> > > in the

> > > > > ball park.

> > > > >

> > > > > I will leave it to Ramesh to show and demonstrate the

reason on

> > why he

> > > > > questioned the authenticity of birth time.

> > > > >

> > > > > Sometimes, people also change the dates and that I

have

personally

> > > > > experienced. In any case, one thing is clear, that if

the birth

> > > time is

> > > > > accurate then all the events of life will fall in

place.

> > > > >

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > >

> > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.

> > ca/> ca/>

> > > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

> <http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html/>

ca> ca> ca

> > > > >

> > > > > _____

> > > > >

> > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40>

com

> > > > > [astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40>

com]

> > > On Behalf Of harjeet

> > > > > bakshi

> > > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 9:07 PM

> > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40>

com

> > > > > Re: need

advice-current

> divorce

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Amir,

> > > > > i am just learning KAS...

> > > > >

> > > > > taking marriage 5 years ago.. might have happened in

the antra

> > of rahu

> > > > > samdhari to saturn lord of 6th and is situated in 6th

house.

> > > > > now antra of ketu samdhari to moon which is having

highest

> point for

> > > > > 7th house and situated in D... so chances of marriage

to break(i

> > dont

> > > > > wish so.. but thats the law given in lesson).. but

again rahu is

> > also

> > > > > samdhari to moon which has highest points for 7th

house.

> > > > > Ashji please guide on this one..

> > > > > i think the result of marriage is spoiled because rahu

being

> > samdhari

> > > > > to 6th lord saturn gave marriage.

> > > > > also 6th lord saturn has sight on B,D and E so

marriage is

bad...

> > > > > result might be felt specially in the antra of

saturn... 2004

> sep to

> > > > > 2006 apr.

> > > > > also during this antra gave bad results for house 4th

and 7th

> aswell

> > > > > as 6th being in less points and 4th from sun and

mercury.

> > > > > venus is in dual sign in both rasi(also aspecting 2nd

house

> with -5

> > > > > points) and navamsa.. chances of 2 marriages.

> > > > > sun in 7th house.

> > > > > moon aspected by ketu in navamsa and with mars in

rasi.. might

> cause

> > > > > you to take hasty steps.

> > > > > cant go more as out of time..

> > > > > try to put efforts to pursue your goal. one point

irrespective of

> > > > > birth time in your wife's chart is that your rahu and

saturn

> aspects

> > > > > her mars based on sign overlapping. so there would be

strong

> > > > > attraction between the couple... this might be the positive

> factor.

> > > > > thanks/regards

> > > > > harjeet

> > > > >

> > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > > > <%40>

> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40>

com,

> > > > > jay shanders

> > > > > <phillyanyone@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Mr. ramesh

> > > > > > how are you?/

> > > > > > thank you so much for your reply

> > > > > > as i am always gratful for all your help and i

dont mean

to give

> > > > > you a hard time its just i depend on you so much for

advice and

> > > > > prediction as to my current divorce proceeding

> > > > > > my wife has told me her birth time is 8:30 AM but

i have a

> copy of

> > > > > her indian birth certificate and on there it has 9:36

AM so i

> > honestly

> > > > > dont know which one is for real as i cant even ask her

right

> > now. can

> > > > > you use both and see what results you get. as using

the 8:30

> AM you

> > > > > have said that there is no divorce now or future, does

that

still

> > > > > hold. i just want to know that even though iam going

through the

> > > > > divorce proceeding should i really worry as will it go

through

> > and us

> > > > > divorce or will it Not happen and we stay married. my

birth

> time is

> > > > > accurate so do i have divorce and 2nd marriage in my

chart

???? i

> > > > > just want to know over all if me and my wife will have

a long

> > lasting

> > > > > marriage ??

> > > > > >

> > > > > > please help me in any way possible as you are

helping a person

> > > > > save his marriage and thus i have a daughter that i

worry so

much

> > > > > about. any further information as to my chart will be

> appreciated??

> > > > > > thank you

> > > > > > amir

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@>

wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Amir,

> > > > > > Please read my all mails sincerely.You will find

all

> > > > > > your answers.

> > > > > > I had asked you before also the correctness of

> > > > > > birthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked you

same

> > > > > > data.

> > > > > > Unless the birthtime is authenticated, all

efforts

> > > > > > will be useless.

> > > > > > This I have already pointed you out.I think now

you

> > > > > > understand it.

> > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- jay shanders <phillyanyone@>

wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > > > > > namaste

> > > > > > > iam not confused as you have told me in last

email

> > > > > > > that there is No divorce nor or future.

> > > > > > > iam the same Amir that has been emailing you

for

> > > > > > > consults and you have beening gicing me

> > > > > > > predictions. so are you now saying that we

will

> > > > > > > divorce now with likely chances of reunion

in feb???

> > > > > > > so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce

occur

> > > > > > > there will not be any chances of reunion

since i

> > > > > > > cant stop my wife from divorcing then why

would she

> > > > > > > reunite with me after it ??

> > > > > > > thank you

> > > > > > > amir

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@>

wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear Amir,

> > > > > > > Likely chances for re-union is there

sometime in

> > > > > > > the month of Feb/2008.

> > > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > phillyanyone <phillyanyone@>

wrote:

> > > > > > > NAMASTE

> > > > > > > Dear Guruji

> > > > > > > Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated

from my

> > > > > > > wife and daughter

> > > > > > > since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce

> > > > > > > proceeding status.

> > > > > > > because of many problems between my wife and

her

> > > > > > > controling parents

> > > > > > > who have strong influence on her i hastly

filed for

> > > > > > > divorce becase of

> > > > > > > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after

couple of

> > > > > > > weeks going by, i

> > > > > > > wanted to reconcile with my wife and save

our

> > > > > > > marriage and she too

> > > > > > > wanted to come back and save our amrriage

but now

> > > > > > > her parents are

> > > > > > > totally against her coming back and saving

our

> > > > > > > marriage. my wife does

> > > > > > > not want to go aginst her parents and come

back to

> > > > > > > me so she says

> > > > > > > thats it better to divorce and not work

anything

> > > > > > > else. i have tried

> > > > > > > hard to convince her but nothing. we have

been

> > > > > > > married for 5 years,

> > > > > > > on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on

september

> > > > > > > 8, 2006. i have

> > > > > > > been told by many astrologer that neither

have

> > > > > > > divorce or 2nd

> > > > > > > marriage so why iam I current in divorce

status and

> > > > > > > will my marriage

> > > > > > > survive this current divorce status and me

and my

> > > > > > > wfie getting back

> > > > > > > together. please advice as i need all the

advice and

> > > > > > > help i can get

> > > > > > > to save my marriage and input as to what wil

happen

> > > > > > > as to my marriage-

> > > > > > > divorce or us reuniting????

> > > > > > > thank you

> > > > > > > God bless

> > > > > > > amir

> > > > > > >

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September 19, 2007

Dear Ashji,

although 6th house is D for 9th house.. but its for all lagna.

for scorpio lagna moon is lord of 9th which is nsd to mars 6th lord..

may be thats the reason.. thats what i can come up with .

thanks/regards

harjeet

, " Ash " <kas wrote:

>

> Dear Harjeet, Anup, Ramesh and all,

>

> Here Ma is in 9th house who is lord of 6th house so why wouldn't it

spoil

> 9th house results?

>

> What is special about this lagna?

>

> What other lagna would this be applicable to and why?

>

> Cheers !!!

>

> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

> _____

>

> On Behalf Of Ash

> Wednesday September 19, 2007 1:23 PM

>

> RE: Re: need advice-current divorce

>

> Dear Harjeet,

>

> Good analysis on the 5:9 :-)

>

> Cheers !!!

>

> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

> _____

>

> On Behalf Of harjeet

> bakshi

> Wednesday September 19, 2007 12:46 PM

>

> Re: need advice-current divorce

>

> Dear Ashji,

> if in navamsa virgo asc. arises.. then in navamsa me and venus i.e.

> lord of 1st and 9th house is in 5:9. with 8:40 am.

> with 9:30 saggi asc. in navamsa again sun and jupiter in 5:9 in rasi

> which are lord of 1st and 9th in navamsa.

> thanks/regards

> harjeet

>

> astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents ,

> " Ash " <kas@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Harjeet,

> >

> > How can 2nd lord aspect be like 6th lord. Something is wrong

> somewhere. If

> > you find that post let me know.

> >

> > 6th house is most malefic and its 12th from B = 7.

> >

> > Harjeet, if you just take Marriage in Ve antra being most powerful

> then even

> > with 8:30 AM u will still get marriage in Ve antra.

> >

> > Harjeet, please give the calculations here for computing marriage in

> detail

> > using both times. This will give u good practice.

> >

> > I will look forward to proper calculations and that will help all.

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> >

> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca>

> >

> > _____

> >

> > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents

> > [astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents ]

> On Behalf Of harjeet

> > bakshi

> > Wednesday September 19, 2007 11:59 AM

> > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents

> > Re: need advice-current divorce

> >

> > Dear Ashji/Mishraji/Amir,

> > 9:30 why cant be considered close to correct birth time ?

> > marriage happened in the antra of E and most powerful significator.

> > conception and birth of child occurs in antra of jupiter having very

> > strong points for 5th,11th and 12th house.

> > jupiter is having least points for 7th house. and is also lord of 2nd

> > house so more problems/tensions and bad result pertaining to 7th

> > house. jupiter also aspects house A,E and D with -5 points.

> > so result pertaining to this house is bad during its antra.

> > somewhere in archive i think i read to look at 2nd lord's aspect too

> > just like 6th house..please correct me if i am wrong.

> > again mars lord of 6th aspects house D and E.. and also aspects lord

> > of C. and also has low points for 7th house.

> > so the antra of mars 2004 nov to 2005 nov must have created problems

> > in married life ? if Amir can comment on this.?

> > next coming antra of saturn lord of D... early 2008 jan end or feb..

> > should bring better results ?

> > Amir can you provide some information about career of your wife.. if

> > she dont work.. or work very hard but dont earn enough and the

> > expenditure is too much from her side ?

> > thanks/regards

> > harjeet

> >

> > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,

> > " harjeet bakshi "

> > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Mishraji,

> > > for husband(Amir) chart, venus is in pisces which is dual sign.

> > > thanks/regards

> > > harjeet

> > >

> > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,

> > " Ash " <kas@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > >

> > > > Well explained with proper and concrete reasoning based on KAS.

> > > >

> > > > That is the reason why I mentioned in my last line, that the birth

> > > time may

> > > > still be wrong. :-)

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > >

> > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

> ca> ca>

> > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > [astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]

> > On Behalf Of

> > > ramesh mishra

> > > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 2:12 AM

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > RE: Re: need advice-current

> > divorce

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ash, Anup, Harjeet and all,

> > > >

> > > > The reasons for questioning the authenticity in the birth time in

> > > respect of

> > > > his spouse are followings.

> > > >

> > > > 1.His wife married on 1 Jun 2002 during Ra / Ve. Undoubtedly Ve

> is the

> > > > strongest significator for 7th house but there is also combined

> > > delay caused

> > > > by Sa and Ju both.

> > > >

> > > > This delay is overcome on 29 Aug 2004 during Ra/ Mo.

> > > >

> > > > As per the given time marriage could have taken place in Ma antara

> > > who is SD

> > > > to Mo.

> > > >

> > > > Ma is also 6th lord.

> > > >

> > > > 2. This chart indicates harmony in married life because 7th from

> > > lagna, Su

> > > > and Mo all are in 3:11 ratio.

> > > >

> > > > 3.There is no blessings in the chart.

> > > >

> > > > 4. Both the luminaries are aspected by Sa.

> > > >

> > > > 5. Ve is under the affliction of Ra/Ke

> > > >

> > > > 6.Ma as 6th lord is in karak sthaan of 2nd and Mo the karka

lord of

> > > 2nd is

> > > > in house B for 7th. The same Mo and Ma are in 4:10 relationship in

> > > navamsa.

> > > >

> > > > This may indicate the separation and then divorce.

> > > >

> > > > But this factor is absent in her hussband chart.

> > > >

> > > > 7. 7th lord Ve is in dual sign indicating the second marriage.

This

> > > is not

> > > > present in her husband chart.

> > > >

> > > > I thought these may be the reason which does not tally with her

> > husband

> > > > chart.

> > > >

> > > > This may be due to wrong birth time.

> > > >

> > > > When you change the time as 9:36 AM then also nothing changes

except

> > > > navamsa.

> > > >

> > > > You may correct me if I am wrong anywhere.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > >

> > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > >

> > > > Ash <kas@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Here if you cast the chart of the natives wife with the given time

> > > of 8:30

> > > > am, marriage happens in the highest power planet of Venus, and yet

> > > Ramesh

> > > > and I both questioned the time of birth.

> > > >

> > > > And it turns out that the birth certificate time is of 9:32 AM

which

> > > is more

> > > > than 1 hour difference. Even still the birth time might be wrong.

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > >

> > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

> ca/> ca/>

> > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > [astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]

> > On Behalf Of Ash

> > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 10:38 PM

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > RE: Re: need advice-current

> > divorce

> > > >

> > > > Dear Harjeet and All,

> > > >

> > > > Here the native has blessing if this chart is accurate. Most

of the

> > > points

> > > > are less in 7th house so results are showing.

> > > >

> > > > Now, 6th lord is Saturn and its with 3 bindus in 10th house. So

> > > from there

> > > > he aspects 7th i.e LoB, House E, House D, LoA and LoC in Navamsa.

> > > So here

> > > > results are more severe.

> > > >

> > > > Here for Quality, remove -5 points from 12th, 7th and 4th and from

> > > Mercury

> > > > and sun as well for quality i.e. 5 points more to offset bad

effects

> > > of 6th

> > > > lord.

> > > >

> > > > So only Moon is good for timing and quality.

> > > >

> > > > From lagna, sun, mo, ve and Ma all are in 4:10, 2:12, 4:10,

3:11 and

> > > 2:12.

> > > >

> > > > Lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 in navamsa.

> > > >

> > > > As you have said, there is full delay of Sa for 27 years and then

> > of Ju

> > > > after that. So marriage can happen in Rahu who is SD to 6th lord

> > > and 7th

> > > > lord Sa and Mo.

> > > >

> > > > After marriage, antra running have been of Ju who has less

power in

> > > 7th, and

> > > > then after that Mercury who is 2nd lord and less power in 7th

> house.

> > > >

> > > > Child birth in Sa antra who is SD to Ve the strongest significator

> > > for 5th

> > > > house and Sa is NSD to Ve.

> > > >

> > > > Now the native is running Ketu antra and Ketu is in House E

for 7th

> > > as B and

> > > > SD to Mo so again strong feelings are there and at the same

time its

> > > SD to

> > > > Sa as well so again it can't give full happiness.

> > > >

> > > > After that again the antras are not strong for 7th house, sun

has 12

> > > points

> > > > but again its aspected by Sa so quality is still poor.

> > > >

> > > > My suggestion in this case would be to try to reconcile with his

> > > wife and to

> > > > use the power of blessing. Try to let bygones be bygones and start

> > > afresh

> > > > for the child.

> > > >

> > > > The native will have to do a lot of adjustment.

> > > >

> > > > Otherwise it's very difficult.

> > > >

> > > > On another note, just recently I gave the discussion that

Krushnaji

> > > gave on

> > > > accepting time as given. Here this gentleman's wife's chart is a

> > prime

> > > > candidate on how data can be wrong and using KAS it can be pointed

> > out.

> > > > Ramesh also pointed out the improper time of his wife and so

did I.

> > > >

> > > > Actually this is based on concrete calculations and just accepting

> > > the time

> > > > given as correct is not always proper. Unless one takes proper

> > > effort to

> > > > tally events and makes sure that things are fitting right or even

> > in the

> > > > ball park.

> > > >

> > > > I will leave it to Ramesh to show and demonstrate the reason on

> why he

> > > > questioned the authenticity of birth time.

> > > >

> > > > Sometimes, people also change the dates and that I have personally

> > > > experienced. In any case, one thing is clear, that if the birth

> > time is

> > > > accurate then all the events of life will fall in place.

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > >

> > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

> <http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html/>

> ca/> ca/>

> > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > [astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]

> > On Behalf Of harjeet

> > > > bakshi

> > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 9:07 PM

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > Re: need advice-current

divorce

> > > >

> > > > Dear Amir,

> > > > i am just learning KAS...

> > > >

> > > > taking marriage 5 years ago.. might have happened in the antra

> of rahu

> > > > samdhari to saturn lord of 6th and is situated in 6th house.

> > > > now antra of ketu samdhari to moon which is having highest

point for

> > > > 7th house and situated in D... so chances of marriage to break(i

> dont

> > > > wish so.. but thats the law given in lesson).. but again rahu is

> also

> > > > samdhari to moon which has highest points for 7th house.

> > > > Ashji please guide on this one..

> > > > i think the result of marriage is spoiled because rahu being

> samdhari

> > > > to 6th lord saturn gave marriage.

> > > > also 6th lord saturn has sight on B,D and E so marriage is bad...

> > > > result might be felt specially in the antra of saturn... 2004

sep to

> > > > 2006 apr.

> > > > also during this antra gave bad results for house 4th and 7th

aswell

> > > > as 6th being in less points and 4th from sun and mercury.

> > > > venus is in dual sign in both rasi(also aspecting 2nd house

with -5

> > > > points) and navamsa.. chances of 2 marriages.

> > > > sun in 7th house.

> > > > moon aspected by ketu in navamsa and with mars in rasi.. might

cause

> > > > you to take hasty steps.

> > > > cant go more as out of time..

> > > > try to put efforts to pursue your goal. one point irrespective of

> > > > birth time in your wife's chart is that your rahu and saturn

aspects

> > > > her mars based on sign overlapping. so there would be strong

> > > > attraction between the couple... this might be the positive

factor.

> > > > thanks/regards

> > > > harjeet

> > > >

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > > <%40>

> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,

> > > > jay shanders

> > > > <phillyanyone@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Mr. ramesh

> > > > > how are you?/

> > > > > thank you so much for your reply

> > > > > as i am always gratful for all your help and i dont mean to give

> > > > you a hard time its just i depend on you so much for advice and

> > > > prediction as to my current divorce proceeding

> > > > > my wife has told me her birth time is 8:30 AM but i have a

copy of

> > > > her indian birth certificate and on there it has 9:36 AM so i

> honestly

> > > > dont know which one is for real as i cant even ask her right

> now. can

> > > > you use both and see what results you get. as using the 8:30

AM you

> > > > have said that there is no divorce now or future, does that still

> > > > hold. i just want to know that even though iam going through the

> > > > divorce proceeding should i really worry as will it go through

> and us

> > > > divorce or will it Not happen and we stay married. my birth

time is

> > > > accurate so do i have divorce and 2nd marriage in my chart ???? i

> > > > just want to know over all if me and my wife will have a long

> lasting

> > > > marriage ??

> > > > >

> > > > > please help me in any way possible as you are helping a person

> > > > save his marriage and thus i have a daughter that i worry so much

> > > > about. any further information as to my chart will be

appreciated??

> > > > > thank you

> > > > > amir

> > > > >

> > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Amir,

> > > > > Please read my all mails sincerely.You will find all

> > > > > your answers.

> > > > > I had asked you before also the correctness of

> > > > > birthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked you same

> > > > > data.

> > > > > Unless the birthtime is authenticated, all efforts

> > > > > will be useless.

> > > > > This I have already pointed you out.I think now you

> > > > > understand it.

> > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > >

> > > > > --- jay shanders <phillyanyone@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > > > > namaste

> > > > > > iam not confused as you have told me in last email

> > > > > > that there is No divorce nor or future.

> > > > > > iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for

> > > > > > consults and you have beening gicing me

> > > > > > predictions. so are you now saying that we will

> > > > > > divorce now with likely chances of reunion in feb???

> > > > > > so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce occur

> > > > > > there will not be any chances of reunion since i

> > > > > > cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would she

> > > > > > reunite with me after it ??

> > > > > > thank you

> > > > > > amir

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Amir,

> > > > > > Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in

> > > > > > the month of Feb/2008.

> > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > >

> > > > > > phillyanyone <phillyanyone@> wrote:

> > > > > > NAMASTE

> > > > > > Dear Guruji

> > > > > > Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated from my

> > > > > > wife and daughter

> > > > > > since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce

> > > > > > proceeding status.

> > > > > > because of many problems between my wife and her

> > > > > > controling parents

> > > > > > who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for

> > > > > > divorce becase of

> > > > > > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of

> > > > > > weeks going by, i

> > > > > > wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our

> > > > > > marriage and she too

> > > > > > wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now

> > > > > > her parents are

> > > > > > totally against her coming back and saving our

> > > > > > marriage. my wife does

> > > > > > not want to go aginst her parents and come back to

> > > > > > me so she says

> > > > > > thats it better to divorce and not work anything

> > > > > > else. i have tried

> > > > > > hard to convince her but nothing. we have been

> > > > > > married for 5 years,

> > > > > > on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on september

> > > > > > 8, 2006. i have

> > > > > > been told by many astrologer that neither have

> > > > > > divorce or 2nd

> > > > > > marriage so why iam I current in divorce status and

> > > > > > will my marriage

> > > > > > survive this current divorce status and me and my

> > > > > > wfie getting back

> > > > > > together. please advice as i need all the advice and

> > > > > > help i can get

> > > > > > to save my marriage and input as to what wil happen

> > > > > > as to my marriage-

> > > > > > divorce or us reuniting????

> > > > > > thank you

> > > > > > God bless

> > > > > > amir

> > > > > >

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September 19, 2007

saggitarius is the other lagna.

thks/rgds

harjeet

, " Ash " <kas wrote:

>

> Dear Harjeet, Anup, Ramesh and all,

>

> Here Ma is in 9th house who is lord of 6th house so why wouldn't it

spoil

> 9th house results?

>

> What is special about this lagna?

>

> What other lagna would this be applicable to and why?

>

> Cheers !!!

>

> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

> _____

>

> On Behalf Of Ash

> Wednesday September 19, 2007 1:23 PM

>

> RE: Re: need advice-current divorce

>

> Dear Harjeet,

>

> Good analysis on the 5:9 :-)

>

> Cheers !!!

>

> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

> _____

>

> On Behalf Of harjeet

> bakshi

> Wednesday September 19, 2007 12:46 PM

>

> Re: need advice-current divorce

>

> Dear Ashji,

> if in navamsa virgo asc. arises.. then in navamsa me and venus i.e.

> lord of 1st and 9th house is in 5:9. with 8:40 am.

> with 9:30 saggi asc. in navamsa again sun and jupiter in 5:9 in rasi

> which are lord of 1st and 9th in navamsa.

> thanks/regards

> harjeet

>

> astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents ,

> " Ash " <kas@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Harjeet,

> >

> > How can 2nd lord aspect be like 6th lord. Something is wrong

> somewhere. If

> > you find that post let me know.

> >

> > 6th house is most malefic and its 12th from B = 7.

> >

> > Harjeet, if you just take Marriage in Ve antra being most powerful

> then even

> > with 8:30 AM u will still get marriage in Ve antra.

> >

> > Harjeet, please give the calculations here for computing marriage in

> detail

> > using both times. This will give u good practice.

> >

> > I will look forward to proper calculations and that will help all.

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> >

> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca>

> >

> > _____

> >

> > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents

> > [astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents ]

> On Behalf Of harjeet

> > bakshi

> > Wednesday September 19, 2007 11:59 AM

> > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents

> > Re: need advice-current divorce

> >

> > Dear Ashji/Mishraji/Amir,

> > 9:30 why cant be considered close to correct birth time ?

> > marriage happened in the antra of E and most powerful significator.

> > conception and birth of child occurs in antra of jupiter having very

> > strong points for 5th,11th and 12th house.

> > jupiter is having least points for 7th house. and is also lord of 2nd

> > house so more problems/tensions and bad result pertaining to 7th

> > house. jupiter also aspects house A,E and D with -5 points.

> > so result pertaining to this house is bad during its antra.

> > somewhere in archive i think i read to look at 2nd lord's aspect too

> > just like 6th house..please correct me if i am wrong.

> > again mars lord of 6th aspects house D and E.. and also aspects lord

> > of C. and also has low points for 7th house.

> > so the antra of mars 2004 nov to 2005 nov must have created problems

> > in married life ? if Amir can comment on this.?

> > next coming antra of saturn lord of D... early 2008 jan end or feb..

> > should bring better results ?

> > Amir can you provide some information about career of your wife.. if

> > she dont work.. or work very hard but dont earn enough and the

> > expenditure is too much from her side ?

> > thanks/regards

> > harjeet

> >

> > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,

> > " harjeet bakshi "

> > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Mishraji,

> > > for husband(Amir) chart, venus is in pisces which is dual sign.

> > > thanks/regards

> > > harjeet

> > >

> > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,

> > " Ash " <kas@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > >

> > > > Well explained with proper and concrete reasoning based on KAS.

> > > >

> > > > That is the reason why I mentioned in my last line, that the birth

> > > time may

> > > > still be wrong. :-)

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > >

> > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

> ca> ca>

> > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > [astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]

> > On Behalf Of

> > > ramesh mishra

> > > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 2:12 AM

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > RE: Re: need advice-current

> > divorce

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ash, Anup, Harjeet and all,

> > > >

> > > > The reasons for questioning the authenticity in the birth time in

> > > respect of

> > > > his spouse are followings.

> > > >

> > > > 1.His wife married on 1 Jun 2002 during Ra / Ve. Undoubtedly Ve

> is the

> > > > strongest significator for 7th house but there is also combined

> > > delay caused

> > > > by Sa and Ju both.

> > > >

> > > > This delay is overcome on 29 Aug 2004 during Ra/ Mo.

> > > >

> > > > As per the given time marriage could have taken place in Ma antara

> > > who is SD

> > > > to Mo.

> > > >

> > > > Ma is also 6th lord.

> > > >

> > > > 2. This chart indicates harmony in married life because 7th from

> > > lagna, Su

> > > > and Mo all are in 3:11 ratio.

> > > >

> > > > 3.There is no blessings in the chart.

> > > >

> > > > 4. Both the luminaries are aspected by Sa.

> > > >

> > > > 5. Ve is under the affliction of Ra/Ke

> > > >

> > > > 6.Ma as 6th lord is in karak sthaan of 2nd and Mo the karka

lord of

> > > 2nd is

> > > > in house B for 7th. The same Mo and Ma are in 4:10 relationship in

> > > navamsa.

> > > >

> > > > This may indicate the separation and then divorce.

> > > >

> > > > But this factor is absent in her hussband chart.

> > > >

> > > > 7. 7th lord Ve is in dual sign indicating the second marriage.

This

> > > is not

> > > > present in her husband chart.

> > > >

> > > > I thought these may be the reason which does not tally with her

> > husband

> > > > chart.

> > > >

> > > > This may be due to wrong birth time.

> > > >

> > > > When you change the time as 9:36 AM then also nothing changes

except

> > > > navamsa.

> > > >

> > > > You may correct me if I am wrong anywhere.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > >

> > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > >

> > > > Ash <kas@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Here if you cast the chart of the natives wife with the given time

> > > of 8:30

> > > > am, marriage happens in the highest power planet of Venus, and yet

> > > Ramesh

> > > > and I both questioned the time of birth.

> > > >

> > > > And it turns out that the birth certificate time is of 9:32 AM

which

> > > is more

> > > > than 1 hour difference. Even still the birth time might be wrong.

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > >

> > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

> ca/> ca/>

> > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > [astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]

> > On Behalf Of Ash

> > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 10:38 PM

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > RE: Re: need advice-current

> > divorce

> > > >

> > > > Dear Harjeet and All,

> > > >

> > > > Here the native has blessing if this chart is accurate. Most

of the

> > > points

> > > > are less in 7th house so results are showing.

> > > >

> > > > Now, 6th lord is Saturn and its with 3 bindus in 10th house. So

> > > from there

> > > > he aspects 7th i.e LoB, House E, House D, LoA and LoC in Navamsa.

> > > So here

> > > > results are more severe.

> > > >

> > > > Here for Quality, remove -5 points from 12th, 7th and 4th and from

> > > Mercury

> > > > and sun as well for quality i.e. 5 points more to offset bad

effects

> > > of 6th

> > > > lord.

> > > >

> > > > So only Moon is good for timing and quality.

> > > >

> > > > From lagna, sun, mo, ve and Ma all are in 4:10, 2:12, 4:10,

3:11 and

> > > 2:12.

> > > >

> > > > Lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 in navamsa.

> > > >

> > > > As you have said, there is full delay of Sa for 27 years and then

> > of Ju

> > > > after that. So marriage can happen in Rahu who is SD to 6th lord

> > > and 7th

> > > > lord Sa and Mo.

> > > >

> > > > After marriage, antra running have been of Ju who has less

power in

> > > 7th, and

> > > > then after that Mercury who is 2nd lord and less power in 7th

> house.

> > > >

> > > > Child birth in Sa antra who is SD to Ve the strongest significator

> > > for 5th

> > > > house and Sa is NSD to Ve.

> > > >

> > > > Now the native is running Ketu antra and Ketu is in House E

for 7th

> > > as B and

> > > > SD to Mo so again strong feelings are there and at the same

time its

> > > SD to

> > > > Sa as well so again it can't give full happiness.

> > > >

> > > > After that again the antras are not strong for 7th house, sun

has 12

> > > points

> > > > but again its aspected by Sa so quality is still poor.

> > > >

> > > > My suggestion in this case would be to try to reconcile with his

> > > wife and to

> > > > use the power of blessing. Try to let bygones be bygones and start

> > > afresh

> > > > for the child.

> > > >

> > > > The native will have to do a lot of adjustment.

> > > >

> > > > Otherwise it's very difficult.

> > > >

> > > > On another note, just recently I gave the discussion that

Krushnaji

> > > gave on

> > > > accepting time as given. Here this gentleman's wife's chart is a

> > prime

> > > > candidate on how data can be wrong and using KAS it can be pointed

> > out.

> > > > Ramesh also pointed out the improper time of his wife and so

did I.

> > > >

> > > > Actually this is based on concrete calculations and just accepting

> > > the time

> > > > given as correct is not always proper. Unless one takes proper

> > > effort to

> > > > tally events and makes sure that things are fitting right or even

> > in the

> > > > ball park.

> > > >

> > > > I will leave it to Ramesh to show and demonstrate the reason on

> why he

> > > > questioned the authenticity of birth time.

> > > >

> > > > Sometimes, people also change the dates and that I have personally

> > > > experienced. In any case, one thing is clear, that if the birth

> > time is

> > > > accurate then all the events of life will fall in place.

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > >

> > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

> <http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html/>

> ca/> ca/>

> > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

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> > > > [astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]

> > On Behalf Of harjeet

> > > > bakshi

> > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 9:07 PM

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > Re: need advice-current

divorce

> > > >

> > > > Dear Amir,

> > > > i am just learning KAS...

> > > >

> > > > taking marriage 5 years ago.. might have happened in the antra

> of rahu

> > > > samdhari to saturn lord of 6th and is situated in 6th house.

> > > > now antra of ketu samdhari to moon which is having highest

point for

> > > > 7th house and situated in D... so chances of marriage to break(i

> dont

> > > > wish so.. but thats the law given in lesson).. but again rahu is

> also

> > > > samdhari to moon which has highest points for 7th house.

> > > > Ashji please guide on this one..

> > > > i think the result of marriage is spoiled because rahu being

> samdhari

> > > > to 6th lord saturn gave marriage.

> > > > also 6th lord saturn has sight on B,D and E so marriage is bad...

> > > > result might be felt specially in the antra of saturn... 2004

sep to

> > > > 2006 apr.

> > > > also during this antra gave bad results for house 4th and 7th

aswell

> > > > as 6th being in less points and 4th from sun and mercury.

> > > > venus is in dual sign in both rasi(also aspecting 2nd house

with -5

> > > > points) and navamsa.. chances of 2 marriages.

> > > > sun in 7th house.

> > > > moon aspected by ketu in navamsa and with mars in rasi.. might

cause

> > > > you to take hasty steps.

> > > > cant go more as out of time..

> > > > try to put efforts to pursue your goal. one point irrespective of

> > > > birth time in your wife's chart is that your rahu and saturn

aspects

> > > > her mars based on sign overlapping. so there would be strong

> > > > attraction between the couple... this might be the positive

factor.

> > > > thanks/regards

> > > > harjeet

> > > >

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > > <%40>

> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,

> > > > jay shanders

> > > > <phillyanyone@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Mr. ramesh

> > > > > how are you?/

> > > > > thank you so much for your reply

> > > > > as i am always gratful for all your help and i dont mean to give

> > > > you a hard time its just i depend on you so much for advice and

> > > > prediction as to my current divorce proceeding

> > > > > my wife has told me her birth time is 8:30 AM but i have a

copy of

> > > > her indian birth certificate and on there it has 9:36 AM so i

> honestly

> > > > dont know which one is for real as i cant even ask her right

> now. can

> > > > you use both and see what results you get. as using the 8:30

AM you

> > > > have said that there is no divorce now or future, does that still

> > > > hold. i just want to know that even though iam going through the

> > > > divorce proceeding should i really worry as will it go through

> and us

> > > > divorce or will it Not happen and we stay married. my birth

time is

> > > > accurate so do i have divorce and 2nd marriage in my chart ???? i

> > > > just want to know over all if me and my wife will have a long

> lasting

> > > > marriage ??

> > > > >

> > > > > please help me in any way possible as you are helping a person

> > > > save his marriage and thus i have a daughter that i worry so much

> > > > about. any further information as to my chart will be

appreciated??

> > > > > thank you

> > > > > amir

> > > > >

> > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Amir,

> > > > > Please read my all mails sincerely.You will find all

> > > > > your answers.

> > > > > I had asked you before also the correctness of

> > > > > birthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked you same

> > > > > data.

> > > > > Unless the birthtime is authenticated, all efforts

> > > > > will be useless.

> > > > > This I have already pointed you out.I think now you

> > > > > understand it.

> > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > >

> > > > > --- jay shanders <phillyanyone@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > > > > namaste

> > > > > > iam not confused as you have told me in last email

> > > > > > that there is No divorce nor or future.

> > > > > > iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for

> > > > > > consults and you have beening gicing me

> > > > > > predictions. so are you now saying that we will

> > > > > > divorce now with likely chances of reunion in feb???

> > > > > > so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce occur

> > > > > > there will not be any chances of reunion since i

> > > > > > cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would she

> > > > > > reunite with me after it ??

> > > > > > thank you

> > > > > > amir

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Amir,

> > > > > > Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in

> > > > > > the month of Feb/2008.

> > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > >

> > > > > > phillyanyone <phillyanyone@> wrote:

> > > > > > NAMASTE

> > > > > > Dear Guruji

> > > > > > Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated from my

> > > > > > wife and daughter

> > > > > > since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce

> > > > > > proceeding status.

> > > > > > because of many problems between my wife and her

> > > > > > controling parents

> > > > > > who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for

> > > > > > divorce becase of

> > > > > > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of

> > > > > > weeks going by, i

> > > > > > wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our

> > > > > > marriage and she too

> > > > > > wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now

> > > > > > her parents are

> > > > > > totally against her coming back and saving our

> > > > > > marriage. my wife does

> > > > > > not want to go aginst her parents and come back to

> > > > > > me so she says

> > > > > > thats it better to divorce and not work anything

> > > > > > else. i have tried

> > > > > > hard to convince her but nothing. we have been

> > > > > > married for 5 years,

> > > > > > on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on september

> > > > > > 8, 2006. i have

> > > > > > been told by many astrologer that neither have

> > > > > > divorce or 2nd

> > > > > > marriage so why iam I current in divorce status and

> > > > > > will my marriage

> > > > > > survive this current divorce status and me and my

> > > > > > wfie getting back

> > > > > > together. please advice as i need all the advice and

> > > > > > help i can get

> > > > > > to save my marriage and input as to what wil happen

> > > > > > as to my marriage-

> > > > > > divorce or us reuniting????

> > > > > > thank you

> > > > > > God bless

> > > > > > amir

> > > > > >

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September 19, 2007

No Harjeet,

Think more on it. Krushnaji has told in

short. Study carefully, lagna and 9th we see so here Ma is in 9th

house .. what is special? Why it did not spoil ?

Cheers !!!

On Behalf Of harjeet bakshi

Wednesday September 19, 2007

3:10 PM

Re: need advice-current divorce

Dear Ashji,

although 6th house is D for 9th house.. but its for all lagna.

for scorpio lagna moon is lord of 9th which is nsd to mars 6th lord..

may be thats the reason.. thats what i can come up with .

thanks/regards

harjeet

,

" Ash " <kas wrote:

>

> Dear Harjeet, Anup, Ramesh and all,

>

> Here Ma is in 9th house who is lord of 6th house so why wouldn't it

spoil

> 9th house results?

>

> What is special about this lagna?

>

> What other lagna would this be applicable to and why?

>

> Cheers !!!

>

> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca>

>

> _____

>

On Behalf Of Ash

> Wednesday September 19, 2007 1:23 PM

>

> RE: Re: need advice-current

divorce

>

> Dear Harjeet,

>

> Good analysis on the 5:9 :-)

>

> Cheers !!!

>

> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca>

>

> _____

>

On Behalf Of harjeet

> bakshi

> Wednesday September 19, 2007 12:46 PM

>

> Re: need advice-current divorce

>

> Dear Ashji,

> if in navamsa virgo asc. arises.. then in navamsa me and venus i.e.

> lord of 1st and 9th house is in 5:9. with 8:40 am.

> with 9:30 saggi asc. in navamsa again sun and jupiter in 5:9 in rasi

> which are lord of 1st and 9th in navamsa.

> thanks/regards

> harjeet

>

> astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents ,

> " Ash " <kas@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Harjeet,

> >

> > How can 2nd lord aspect be like 6th lord. Something is wrong

> somewhere. If

> > you find that post let me know.

> >

> > 6th house is most malefic and its 12th from B = 7.

> >

> > Harjeet, if you just take Marriage in Ve antra being most powerful

> then even

> > with 8:30 AM u will still get marriage in Ve antra.

> >

> > Harjeet, please give the calculations here for computing marriage in

> detail

> > using both times. This will give u good practice.

> >

> > I will look forward to proper calculations and that will help all.

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> >

> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.

> >

> > _____

> >

> > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents

> > [astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents ]

> On Behalf Of harjeet

> > bakshi

> > Wednesday September 19, 2007 11:59 AM

> > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents

> > Re: need advice-current

divorce

> >

> > Dear Ashji/Mishraji/Amir,

> > 9:30 why cant be considered close to correct birth time ?

> > marriage happened in the antra of E and most powerful significator.

> > conception and birth of child occurs in antra of jupiter having very

> > strong points for 5th,11th and 12th house.

> > jupiter is having least points for 7th house. and is also lord of 2nd

> > house so more problems/tensions and bad result pertaining to 7th

> > house. jupiter also aspects house A,E and D with -5 points.

> > so result pertaining to this house is bad during its antra.

> > somewhere in archive i think i read to look at 2nd lord's aspect too

> > just like 6th house..please correct me if i am wrong.

> > again mars lord of 6th aspects house D and E.. and also aspects lord

> > of C. and also has low points for 7th house.

> > so the antra of mars 2004 nov to 2005 nov must have created problems

> > in married life ? if Amir can comment on this.?

> > next coming antra of saturn lord of D... early 2008 jan end or feb..

> > should bring better results ?

> > Amir can you provide some information about career of your wife.. if

> > she dont work.. or work very hard but dont earn enough and the

> > expenditure is too much from her side ?

> > thanks/regards

> > harjeet

> >

> > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,

> > " harjeet bakshi "

> > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Mishraji,

> > > for husband(Amir) chart, venus is in pisces which is dual sign.

> > > thanks/regards

> > > harjeet

> > >

> > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,

> > " Ash " <kas@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > >

> > > > Well explained with proper and concrete reasoning based on

KAS.

> > > >

> > > > That is the reason why I mentioned in my last line, that

the birth

> > > time may

> > > > still be wrong. :-)

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > >

> > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.

> ca> ca>

> > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > [astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]

> > On Behalf Of

> > > ramesh mishra

> > > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 2:12 AM

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > RE: Re: need

advice-current

> > divorce

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ash, Anup, Harjeet and all,

> > > >

> > > > The reasons for questioning the authenticity in the birth

time in

> > > respect of

> > > > his spouse are followings.

> > > >

> > > > 1.His wife married on 1 Jun 2002 during Ra / Ve.

Undoubtedly Ve

> is the

> > > > strongest significator for 7th house but there is also

combined

> > > delay caused

> > > > by Sa and Ju both.

> > > >

> > > > This delay is overcome on 29 Aug 2004 during Ra/ Mo.

> > > >

> > > > As per the given time marriage could have taken place in Ma

antara

> > > who is SD

> > > > to Mo.

> > > >

> > > > Ma is also 6th lord.

> > > >

> > > > 2. This chart indicates harmony in married life because 7th

from

> > > lagna, Su

> > > > and Mo all are in 3:11 ratio.

> > > >

> > > > 3.There is no blessings in the chart.

> > > >

> > > > 4. Both the luminaries are aspected by Sa.

> > > >

> > > > 5. Ve is under the affliction of Ra/Ke

> > > >

> > > > 6.Ma as 6th lord is in karak sthaan of 2nd and Mo the karka

lord of

> > > 2nd is

> > > > in house B for 7th. The same Mo and Ma are in 4:10

relationship in

> > > navamsa.

> > > >

> > > > This may indicate the separation and then divorce.

> > > >

> > > > But this factor is absent in her hussband chart.

> > > >

> > > > 7. 7th lord Ve is in dual sign indicating the second

marriage.

This

> > > is not

> > > > present in her husband chart.

> > > >

> > > > I thought these may be the reason which does not tally with

her

> > husband

> > > > chart.

> > > >

> > > > This may be due to wrong birth time.

> > > >

> > > > When you change the time as 9:36 AM then also nothing changes

except

> > > > navamsa.

> > > >

> > > > You may correct me if I am wrong anywhere.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > >

> > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > >

> > > > Ash <kas@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Here if you cast the chart of the natives wife with the

given time

> > > of 8:30

> > > > am, marriage happens in the highest power planet of Venus,

and yet

> > > Ramesh

> > > > and I both questioned the time of birth.

> > > >

> > > > And it turns out that the birth certificate time is of 9:32

AM

which

> > > is more

> > > > than 1 hour difference. Even still the birth time might be

wrong.

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > >

> > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.

> ca/> ca/>

> > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > [astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]

> > On Behalf Of Ash

> > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 10:38 PM

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > RE: Re: need

advice-current

> > divorce

> > > >

> > > > Dear Harjeet and All,

> > > >

> > > > Here the native has blessing if this chart is accurate.

Most

of the

> > > points

> > > > are less in 7th house so results are showing.

> > > >

> > > > Now, 6th lord is Saturn and its with 3 bindus in 10th

house. So

> > > from there

> > > > he aspects 7th i.e LoB, House E, House D, LoA and LoC in

Navamsa.

> > > So here

> > > > results are more severe.

> > > >

> > > > Here for Quality, remove -5 points from 12th, 7th and 4th

and from

> > > Mercury

> > > > and sun as well for quality i.e. 5 points more to offset

bad

effects

> > > of 6th

> > > > lord.

> > > >

> > > > So only Moon is good for timing and quality.

> > > >

> > > > From lagna, sun, mo, ve and Ma all are in 4:10, 2:12, 4:10,

3:11 and

> > > 2:12.

> > > >

> > > > Lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 in navamsa.

> > > >

> > > > As you have said, there is full delay of Sa for 27 years

and then

> > of Ju

> > > > after that. So marriage can happen in Rahu who is SD to 6th

lord

> > > and 7th

> > > > lord Sa and Mo.

> > > >

> > > > After marriage, antra running have been of Ju who has less

power in

> > > 7th, and

> > > > then after that Mercury who is 2nd lord and less power in

7th

> house.

> > > >

> > > > Child birth in Sa antra who is SD to Ve the strongest

significator

> > > for 5th

> > > > house and Sa is NSD to Ve.

> > > >

> > > > Now the native is running Ketu antra and Ketu is in House E

for 7th

> > > as B and

> > > > SD to Mo so again strong feelings are there and at the same

time its

> > > SD to

> > > > Sa as well so again it can't give full happiness.

> > > >

> > > > After that again the antras are not strong for 7th house,

sun

has 12

> > > points

> > > > but again its aspected by Sa so quality is still poor.

> > > >

> > > > My suggestion in this case would be to try to reconcile

with his

> > > wife and to

> > > > use the power of blessing. Try to let bygones be bygones

and start

> > > afresh

> > > > for the child.

> > > >

> > > > The native will have to do a lot of adjustment.

> > > >

> > > > Otherwise it's very difficult.

> > > >

> > > > On another note, just recently I gave the discussion that

Krushnaji

> > > gave on

> > > > accepting time as given. Here this gentleman's wife's chart

is a

> > prime

> > > > candidate on how data can be wrong and using KAS it can be

pointed

> > out.

> > > > Ramesh also pointed out the improper time of his wife and

so

did I.

> > > >

> > > > Actually this is based on concrete calculations and just

accepting

> > > the time

> > > > given as correct is not always proper. Unless one takes

proper

> > > effort to

> > > > tally events and makes sure that things are fitting right

or even

> > in the

> > > > ball park.

> > > >

> > > > I will leave it to Ramesh to show and demonstrate the

reason on

> why he

> > > > questioned the authenticity of birth time.

> > > >

> > > > Sometimes, people also change the dates and that I have

personally

> > > > experienced. In any case, one thing is clear, that if the

birth

> > time is

> > > > accurate then all the events of life will fall in place.

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > >

> > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.

> <http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html/>

> ca/> ca/>

> > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > [astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]

> > On Behalf Of harjeet

> > > > bakshi

> > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 9:07 PM

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > Re: need

advice-current

divorce

> > > >

> > > > Dear Amir,

> > > > i am just learning KAS...

> > > >

> > > > taking marriage 5 years ago.. might have happened in the

antra

> of rahu

> > > > samdhari to saturn lord of 6th and is situated in 6th

house.

> > > > now antra of ketu samdhari to moon which is having highest

point for

> > > > 7th house and situated in D... so chances of marriage to

break(i

> dont

> > > > wish so.. but thats the law given in lesson).. but again

rahu is

> also

> > > > samdhari to moon which has highest points for 7th house.

> > > > Ashji please guide on this one..

> > > > i think the result of marriage is spoiled because rahu

being

> samdhari

> > > > to 6th lord saturn gave marriage.

> > > > also 6th lord saturn has sight on B,D and E so marriage is

bad...

> > > > result might be felt specially in the antra of saturn...

2004

sep to

> > > > 2006 apr.

> > > > also during this antra gave bad results for house 4th and

7th

aswell

> > > > as 6th being in less points and 4th from sun and mercury.

> > > > venus is in dual sign in both rasi(also aspecting 2nd house

with -5

> > > > points) and navamsa.. chances of 2 marriages.

> > > > sun in 7th house.

> > > > moon aspected by ketu in navamsa and with mars in rasi..

might

cause

> > > > you to take hasty steps.

> > > > cant go more as out of time..

> > > > try to put efforts to pursue your goal. one point

irrespective of

> > > > birth time in your wife's chart is that your rahu and

saturn

aspects

> > > > her mars based on sign overlapping. so there would be

strong

> > > > attraction between the couple... this might be the positive

factor.

> > > > thanks/regards

> > > > harjeet

> > > >

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > > <%40>

> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40>

com,

> > > > jay shanders

> > > > <phillyanyone@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Mr. ramesh

> > > > > how are you?/

> > > > > thank you so much for your reply

> > > > > as i am always gratful for all your help and i dont

mean to give

> > > > you a hard time its just i depend on you so much for advice

and

> > > > prediction as to my current divorce proceeding

> > > > > my wife has told me her birth time is 8:30 AM but i

have a

copy of

> > > > her indian birth certificate and on there it has 9:36 AM so

i

> honestly

> > > > dont know which one is for real as i cant even ask her

right

> now. can

> > > > you use both and see what results you get. as using the

8:30

AM you

> > > > have said that there is no divorce now or future, does that

still

> > > > hold. i just want to know that even though iam going

through the

> > > > divorce proceeding should i really worry as will it go

through

> and us

> > > > divorce or will it Not happen and we stay married. my birth

time is

> > > > accurate so do i have divorce and 2nd marriage in my chart

???? i

> > > > just want to know over all if me and my wife will have a

long

> lasting

> > > > marriage ??

> > > > >

> > > > > please help me in any way possible as you are helping

a person

> > > > save his marriage and thus i have a daughter that i worry

so much

> > > > about. any further information as to my chart will be

appreciated??

> > > > > thank you

> > > > > amir

> > > > >

> > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Amir,

> > > > > Please read my all mails sincerely.You will find all

> > > > > your answers.

> > > > > I had asked you before also the correctness of

> > > > > birthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked you same

> > > > > data.

> > > > > Unless the birthtime is authenticated, all efforts

> > > > > will be useless.

> > > > > This I have already pointed you out.I think now you

> > > > > understand it.

> > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > >

> > > > > --- jay shanders <phillyanyone@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > > > > namaste

> > > > > > iam not confused as you have told me in last

email

> > > > > > that there is No divorce nor or future.

> > > > > > iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for

> > > > > > consults and you have beening gicing me

> > > > > > predictions. so are you now saying that we will

> > > > > > divorce now with likely chances of reunion in

feb???

> > > > > > so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce occur

> > > > > > there will not be any chances of reunion since i

> > > > > > cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would

she

> > > > > > reunite with me after it ??

> > > > > > thank you

> > > > > > amir

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@>

wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Amir,

> > > > > > Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in

> > > > > > the month of Feb/2008.

> > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > >

> > > > > > phillyanyone <phillyanyone@> wrote:

> > > > > > NAMASTE

> > > > > > Dear Guruji

> > > > > > Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated from

my

> > > > > > wife and daughter

> > > > > > since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce

> > > > > > proceeding status.

> > > > > > because of many problems between my wife and her

> > > > > > controling parents

> > > > > > who have strong influence on her i hastly filed

for

> > > > > > divorce becase of

> > > > > > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of

> > > > > > weeks going by, i

> > > > > > wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our

> > > > > > marriage and she too

> > > > > > wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now

> > > > > > her parents are

> > > > > > totally against her coming back and saving our

> > > > > > marriage. my wife does

> > > > > > not want to go aginst her parents and come back

to

> > > > > > me so she says

> > > > > > thats it better to divorce and not work anything

> > > > > > else. i have tried

> > > > > > hard to convince her but nothing. we have been

> > > > > > married for 5 years,

> > > > > > on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on

september

> > > > > > 8, 2006. i have

> > > > > > been told by many astrologer that neither have

> > > > > > divorce or 2nd

> > > > > > marriage so why iam I current in divorce status

and

> > > > > > will my marriage

> > > > > > survive this current divorce status and me and my

> > > > > > wfie getting back

> > > > > > together. please advice as i need all the advice

and

> > > > > > help i can get

> > > > > > to save my marriage and input as to what wil

happen

> > > > > > as to my marriage-

> > > > > > divorce or us reuniting????

> > > > > > thank you

> > > > > > God bless

> > > > > > amir

> > > > > >

> > > > > > amir patel

> > > > > > biodata-

> > > > > > february 19, 1972, 7:15 PM, ahmadabad,

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September 19, 2007

No Harjeet. Think carefully.

Cheers !!!

On Behalf Of harjeet bakshi

Wednesday September 19, 2007

3:12 PM

Subject:

Re: need advice-current divorce

saggitarius is the other lagna.

thks/rgds

harjeet

,

" Ash " <kas wrote:

>

> Dear Harjeet, Anup, Ramesh and all,

>

> Here Ma is in 9th house who is lord of 6th house so why wouldn't it

spoil

> 9th house results?

>

> What is special about this lagna?

>

> What other lagna would this be applicable to and why?

>

> Cheers !!!

>

> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca>

>

> _____

>

On Behalf Of Ash

> Wednesday September 19, 2007 1:23 PM

>

> RE: Re: need advice-current

divorce

>

> Dear Harjeet,

>

> Good analysis on the 5:9 :-)

>

> Cheers !!!

>

> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca>

>

> _____

>

On Behalf Of harjeet

> bakshi

> Wednesday September 19, 2007 12:46 PM

>

> Re: need advice-current divorce

>

> Dear Ashji,

> if in navamsa virgo asc. arises.. then in navamsa me and venus i.e.

> lord of 1st and 9th house is in 5:9. with 8:40 am.

> with 9:30 saggi asc. in navamsa again sun and jupiter in 5:9 in rasi

> which are lord of 1st and 9th in navamsa.

> thanks/regards

> harjeet

>

> astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents ,

> " Ash " <kas@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Harjeet,

> >

> > How can 2nd lord aspect be like 6th lord. Something is wrong

> somewhere. If

> > you find that post let me know.

> >

> > 6th house is most malefic and its 12th from B = 7.

> >

> > Harjeet, if you just take Marriage in Ve antra being most powerful

> then even

> > with 8:30 AM u will still get marriage in Ve antra.

> >

> > Harjeet, please give the calculations here for computing marriage in

> detail

> > using both times. This will give u good practice.

> >

> > I will look forward to proper calculations and that will help all.

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> >

> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.

> >

> > _____

> >

> > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents

> > [astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents ]

> On Behalf Of harjeet

> > bakshi

> > Wednesday September 19, 2007 11:59 AM

> > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents

> > Re: need advice-current

divorce

> >

> > Dear Ashji/Mishraji/Amir,

> > 9:30 why cant be considered close to correct birth time ?

> > marriage happened in the antra of E and most powerful significator.

> > conception and birth of child occurs in antra of jupiter having very

> > strong points for 5th,11th and 12th house.

> > jupiter is having least points for 7th house. and is also lord of 2nd

> > house so more problems/tensions and bad result pertaining to 7th

> > house. jupiter also aspects house A,E and D with -5 points.

> > so result pertaining to this house is bad during its antra.

> > somewhere in archive i think i read to look at 2nd lord's aspect too

> > just like 6th house..please correct me if i am wrong.

> > again mars lord of 6th aspects house D and E.. and also aspects lord

> > of C. and also has low points for 7th house.

> > so the antra of mars 2004 nov to 2005 nov must have created problems

> > in married life ? if Amir can comment on this.?

> > next coming antra of saturn lord of D... early 2008 jan end or feb..

> > should bring better results ?

> > Amir can you provide some information about career of your wife.. if

> > she dont work.. or work very hard but dont earn enough and the

> > expenditure is too much from her side ?

> > thanks/regards

> > harjeet

> >

> > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,

> > " harjeet bakshi "

> > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Mishraji,

> > > for husband(Amir) chart, venus is in pisces which is dual sign.

> > > thanks/regards

> > > harjeet

> > >

> > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,

> > " Ash " <kas@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > >

> > > > Well explained with proper and concrete reasoning based on

KAS.

> > > >

> > > > That is the reason why I mentioned in my last line, that

the birth

> > > time may

> > > > still be wrong. :-)

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > >

> > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.

> ca> ca>

> > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > [astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]

> > On Behalf Of

> > > ramesh mishra

> > > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 2:12 AM

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > RE: Re: need

advice-current

> > divorce

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ash, Anup, Harjeet and all,

> > > >

> > > > The reasons for questioning the authenticity in the birth

time in

> > > respect of

> > > > his spouse are followings.

> > > >

> > > > 1.His wife married on 1 Jun 2002 during Ra / Ve.

Undoubtedly Ve

> is the

> > > > strongest significator for 7th house but there is also

combined

> > > delay caused

> > > > by Sa and Ju both.

> > > >

> > > > This delay is overcome on 29 Aug 2004 during Ra/ Mo.

> > > >

> > > > As per the given time marriage could have taken place in Ma

antara

> > > who is SD

> > > > to Mo.

> > > >

> > > > Ma is also 6th lord.

> > > >

> > > > 2. This chart indicates harmony in married life because 7th

from

> > > lagna, Su

> > > > and Mo all are in 3:11 ratio.

> > > >

> > > > 3.There is no blessings in the chart.

> > > >

> > > > 4. Both the luminaries are aspected by Sa.

> > > >

> > > > 5. Ve is under the affliction of Ra/Ke

> > > >

> > > > 6.Ma as 6th lord is in karak sthaan of 2nd and Mo the karka

lord of

> > > 2nd is

> > > > in house B for 7th. The same Mo and Ma are in 4:10

relationship in

> > > navamsa.

> > > >

> > > > This may indicate the separation and then divorce.

> > > >

> > > > But this factor is absent in her hussband chart.

> > > >

> > > > 7. 7th lord Ve is in dual sign indicating the second

marriage.

This

> > > is not

> > > > present in her husband chart.

> > > >

> > > > I thought these may be the reason which does not tally with

her

> > husband

> > > > chart.

> > > >

> > > > This may be due to wrong birth time.

> > > >

> > > > When you change the time as 9:36 AM then also nothing

changes

except

> > > > navamsa.

> > > >

> > > > You may correct me if I am wrong anywhere.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > >

> > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > >

> > > > Ash <kas@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Here if you cast the chart of the natives wife with the

given time

> > > of 8:30

> > > > am, marriage happens in the highest power planet of Venus,

and yet

> > > Ramesh

> > > > and I both questioned the time of birth.

> > > >

> > > > And it turns out that the birth certificate time is of 9:32

AM

which

> > > is more

> > > > than 1 hour difference. Even still the birth time might be

wrong.

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > >

> > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.

> ca/> ca/>

> > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > [astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]

> > On Behalf Of Ash

> > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 10:38 PM

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > RE: Re: need

advice-current

> > divorce

> > > >

> > > > Dear Harjeet and All,

> > > >

> > > > Here the native has blessing if this chart is accurate.

Most

of the

> > > points

> > > > are less in 7th house so results are showing.

> > > >

> > > > Now, 6th lord is Saturn and its with 3 bindus in 10th

house. So

> > > from there

> > > > he aspects 7th i.e LoB, House E, House D, LoA and LoC in

Navamsa.

> > > So here

> > > > results are more severe.

> > > >

> > > > Here for Quality, remove -5 points from 12th, 7th and 4th

and from

> > > Mercury

> > > > and sun as well for quality i.e. 5 points more to offset

bad

effects

> > > of 6th

> > > > lord.

> > > >

> > > > So only Moon is good for timing and quality.

> > > >

> > > > From lagna, sun, mo, ve and Ma all are in 4:10, 2:12, 4:10,

3:11 and

> > > 2:12.

> > > >

> > > > Lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 in navamsa.

> > > >

> > > > As you have said, there is full delay of Sa for 27 years

and then

> > of Ju

> > > > after that. So marriage can happen in Rahu who is SD to 6th

lord

> > > and 7th

> > > > lord Sa and Mo.

> > > >

> > > > After marriage, antra running have been of Ju who has less

power in

> > > 7th, and

> > > > then after that Mercury who is 2nd lord and less power in

7th

> house.

> > > >

> > > > Child birth in Sa antra who is SD to Ve the strongest

significator

> > > for 5th

> > > > house and Sa is NSD to Ve.

> > > >

> > > > Now the native is running Ketu antra and Ketu is in House E

for 7th

> > > as B and

> > > > SD to Mo so again strong feelings are there and at the same

time its

> > > SD to

> > > > Sa as well so again it can't give full happiness.

> > > >

> > > > After that again the antras are not strong for 7th house,

sun

has 12

> > > points

> > > > but again its aspected by Sa so quality is still poor.

> > > >

> > > > My suggestion in this case would be to try to reconcile

with his

> > > wife and to

> > > > use the power of blessing. Try to let bygones be bygones

and start

> > > afresh

> > > > for the child.

> > > >

> > > > The native will have to do a lot of adjustment.

> > > >

> > > > Otherwise it's very difficult.

> > > >

> > > > On another note, just recently I gave the discussion that

Krushnaji

> > > gave on

> > > > accepting time as given. Here this gentleman's wife's chart

is a

> > prime

> > > > candidate on how data can be wrong and using KAS it can be

pointed

> > out.

> > > > Ramesh also pointed out the improper time of his wife and

so

did I.

> > > >

> > > > Actually this is based on concrete calculations and just

accepting

> > > the time

> > > > given as correct is not always proper. Unless one takes

proper

> > > effort to

> > > > tally events and makes sure that things are fitting right

or even

> > in the

> > > > ball park.

> > > >

> > > > I will leave it to Ramesh to show and demonstrate the

reason on

> why he

> > > > questioned the authenticity of birth time.

> > > >

> > > > Sometimes, people also change the dates and that I have

personally

> > > > experienced. In any case, one thing is clear, that if the

birth

> > time is

> > > > accurate then all the events of life will fall in place.

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > >

> > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.

> <http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html/>

> ca/> ca/>

> > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > [astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]

> > On Behalf Of harjeet

> > > > bakshi

> > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 9:07 PM

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > Re: need

advice-current

divorce

> > > >

> > > > Dear Amir,

> > > > i am just learning KAS...

> > > >

> > > > taking marriage 5 years ago.. might have happened in the

antra

> of rahu

> > > > samdhari to saturn lord of 6th and is situated in 6th

house.

> > > > now antra of ketu samdhari to moon which is having highest

point for

> > > > 7th house and situated in D... so chances of marriage to

break(i

> dont

> > > > wish so.. but thats the law given in lesson).. but again

rahu is

> also

> > > > samdhari to moon which has highest points for 7th house.

> > > > Ashji please guide on this one..

> > > > i think the result of marriage is spoiled because rahu

being

> samdhari

> > > > to 6th lord saturn gave marriage.

> > > > also 6th lord saturn has sight on B,D and E so marriage is

bad...

> > > > result might be felt specially in the antra of saturn...

2004

sep to

> > > > 2006 apr.

> > > > also during this antra gave bad results for house 4th and

7th

aswell

> > > > as 6th being in less points and 4th from sun and mercury.

> > > > venus is in dual sign in both rasi(also aspecting 2nd house

with -5

> > > > points) and navamsa.. chances of 2 marriages.

> > > > sun in 7th house.

> > > > moon aspected by ketu in navamsa and with mars in rasi..

might

cause

> > > > you to take hasty steps.

> > > > cant go more as out of time..

> > > > try to put efforts to pursue your goal. one point

irrespective of

> > > > birth time in your wife's chart is that your rahu and

saturn

aspects

> > > > her mars based on sign overlapping. so there would be

strong

> > > > attraction between the couple... this might be the positive

factor.

> > > > thanks/regards

> > > > harjeet

> > > >

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > > <%40>

> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40>

com,

> > > > jay shanders

> > > > <phillyanyone@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Mr. ramesh

> > > > > how are you?/

> > > > > thank you so much for your reply

> > > > > as i am always gratful for all your help and i dont

mean to give

> > > > you a hard time its just i depend on you so much for advice

and

> > > > prediction as to my current divorce proceeding

> > > > > my wife has told me her birth time is 8:30 AM but i

have a

copy of

> > > > her indian birth certificate and on there it has 9:36 AM so

i

> honestly

> > > > dont know which one is for real as i cant even ask her

right

> now. can

> > > > you use both and see what results you get. as using the

8:30

AM you

> > > > have said that there is no divorce now or future, does that

still

> > > > hold. i just want to know that even though iam going

through the

> > > > divorce proceeding should i really worry as will it go

through

> and us

> > > > divorce or will it Not happen and we stay married. my birth

time is

> > > > accurate so do i have divorce and 2nd marriage in my chart

???? i

> > > > just want to know over all if me and my wife will have a

long

> lasting

> > > > marriage ??

> > > > >

> > > > > please help me in any way possible as you are helping

a person

> > > > save his marriage and thus i have a daughter that i worry

so much

> > > > about. any further information as to my chart will be

appreciated??

> > > > > thank you

> > > > > amir

> > > > >

> > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Amir,

> > > > > Please read my all mails sincerely.You will find all

> > > > > your answers.

> > > > > I had asked you before also the correctness of

> > > > > birthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked you same

> > > > > data.

> > > > > Unless the birthtime is authenticated, all efforts

> > > > > will be useless.

> > > > > This I have already pointed you out.I think now you

> > > > > understand it.

> > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > >

> > > > > --- jay shanders <phillyanyone@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > > > > namaste

> > > > > > iam not confused as you have told me in last

email

> > > > > > that there is No divorce nor or future.

> > > > > > iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for

> > > > > > consults and you have beening gicing me

> > > > > > predictions. so are you now saying that we will

> > > > > > divorce now with likely chances of reunion in

feb???

> > > > > > so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce occur

> > > > > > there will not be any chances of reunion since i

> > > > > > cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would

she

> > > > > > reunite with me after it ??

> > > > > > thank you

> > > > > > amir

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@>

wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Amir,

> > > > > > Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in

> > > > > > the month of Feb/2008.

> > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > >

> > > > > > phillyanyone <phillyanyone@> wrote:

> > > > > > NAMASTE

> > > > > > Dear Guruji

> > > > > > Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated from

my

> > > > > > wife and daughter

> > > > > > since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce

> > > > > > proceeding status.

> > > > > > because of many problems between my wife and her

> > > > > > controling parents

> > > > > > who have strong influence on her i hastly filed

for

> > > > > > divorce becase of

> > > > > > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of

> > > > > > weeks going by, i

> > > > > > wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our

> > > > > > marriage and she too

> > > > > > wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now

> > > > > > her parents are

> > > > > > totally against her coming back and saving our

> > > > > > marriage. my wife does

> > > > > > not want to go aginst her parents and come back

to

> > > > > > me so she says

> > > > > > thats it better to divorce and not work anything

> > > > > > else. i have tried

> > > > > > hard to convince her but nothing. we have been

> > > > > > married for 5 years,

> > > > > > on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on

september

> > > > > > 8, 2006. i have

> > > > > > been told by many astrologer that neither have

> > > > > > divorce or 2nd

> > > > > > marriage so why iam I current in divorce status

and

> > > > > > will my marriage

> > > > > > survive this current divorce status and me and my

> > > > > > wfie getting back

> > > > > > together. please advice as i need all the advice

and

> > > > > > help i can get

> > > > > > to save my marriage and input as to what wil

happen

> > > > > > as to my marriage-

> > > > > > divorce or us reuniting????

> > > > > > thank you

> > > > > > God bless

> > > > > > amir

> > > > > >

> > > > > > amir patel

> > > > > > biodata-

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September 19, 2007

, " Ash " <kas wrote:

>

O.K.

one more try .

here 6th lord is same as lagna lord.

its trine to 9th lord...

i.e. lord of C and D in house B.

house C is the house for result..

same thing with taurus lagna.

thanks/regards

harjeet

> No Harjeet,

>

> Think more on it. Krushnaji has told in short. Study carefully,

lagna and

> 9th we see so here Ma is in 9th house .. what is special? Why it

did not

> spoil ?

>

> Cheers !!!

>

> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

> _____

>

> On Behalf Of harjeet

> bakshi

> Wednesday September 19, 2007 3:10 PM

>

> Re: need advice-current divorce

>

> Dear Ashji,

> although 6th house is D for 9th house.. but its for all lagna.

> for scorpio lagna moon is lord of 9th which is nsd to mars 6th lord..

> may be thats the reason.. thats what i can come up with .

> thanks/regards

> harjeet

>

> astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents ,

> " Ash " <kas@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Harjeet, Anup, Ramesh and all,

> >

> > Here Ma is in 9th house who is lord of 6th house so why wouldn't it

> spoil

> > 9th house results?

> >

> > What is special about this lagna?

> >

> > What other lagna would this be applicable to and why?

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> >

> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca>

> >

> > _____

> >

> > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents

> > [astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents ]

> On Behalf Of Ash

> > Wednesday September 19, 2007 1:23 PM

> > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents

> > RE: Re: need advice-current

divorce

> >

> > Dear Harjeet,

> >

> > Good analysis on the 5:9 :-)

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> >

> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca>

> >

> > _____

> >

> > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents

> > [astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents ]

> On Behalf Of harjeet

> > bakshi

> > Wednesday September 19, 2007 12:46 PM

> > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents

> > Re: need advice-current divorce

> >

> > Dear Ashji,

> > if in navamsa virgo asc. arises.. then in navamsa me and venus i.e.

> > lord of 1st and 9th house is in 5:9. with 8:40 am.

> > with 9:30 saggi asc. in navamsa again sun and jupiter in 5:9 in rasi

> > which are lord of 1st and 9th in navamsa.

> > thanks/regards

> > harjeet

> >

> > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,

> > " Ash " <kas@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Harjeet,

> > >

> > > How can 2nd lord aspect be like 6th lord. Something is wrong

> > somewhere. If

> > > you find that post let me know.

> > >

> > > 6th house is most malefic and its 12th from B = 7.

> > >

> > > Harjeet, if you just take Marriage in Ve antra being most powerful

> > then even

> > > with 8:30 AM u will still get marriage in Ve antra.

> > >

> > > Harjeet, please give the calculations here for computing marriage in

> > detail

> > > using both times. This will give u good practice.

> > >

> > > I will look forward to proper calculations and that will help all.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > >

> > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

> ca> ca>

> > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > [astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]

> > On Behalf Of harjeet

> > > bakshi

> > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 11:59 AM

> > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > Re: need advice-current divorce

> > >

> > > Dear Ashji/Mishraji/Amir,

> > > 9:30 why cant be considered close to correct birth time ?

> > > marriage happened in the antra of E and most powerful significator.

> > > conception and birth of child occurs in antra of jupiter having very

> > > strong points for 5th,11th and 12th house.

> > > jupiter is having least points for 7th house. and is also lord

of 2nd

> > > house so more problems/tensions and bad result pertaining to 7th

> > > house. jupiter also aspects house A,E and D with -5 points.

> > > so result pertaining to this house is bad during its antra.

> > > somewhere in archive i think i read to look at 2nd lord's aspect too

> > > just like 6th house..please correct me if i am wrong.

> > > again mars lord of 6th aspects house D and E.. and also aspects lord

> > > of C. and also has low points for 7th house.

> > > so the antra of mars 2004 nov to 2005 nov must have created problems

> > > in married life ? if Amir can comment on this.?

> > > next coming antra of saturn lord of D... early 2008 jan end or feb..

> > > should bring better results ?

> > > Amir can you provide some information about career of your wife.. if

> > > she dont work.. or work very hard but dont earn enough and the

> > > expenditure is too much from her side ?

> > > thanks/regards

> > > harjeet

> > >

> > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,

> > > " harjeet bakshi "

> > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Mishraji,

> > > > for husband(Amir) chart, venus is in pisces which is dual sign.

> > > > thanks/regards

> > > > harjeet

> > > >

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,

> > > " Ash " <kas@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > > >

> > > > > Well explained with proper and concrete reasoning based on KAS.

> > > > >

> > > > > That is the reason why I mentioned in my last line, that the

birth

> > > > time may

> > > > > still be wrong. :-)

> > > > >

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > >

> > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

> > ca> ca>

> > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca>

ca> ca>

> ca

> > > > >

> > > > > _____

> > > > >

> > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > > [astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]

> > > On Behalf Of

> > > > ramesh mishra

> > > > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 2:12 AM

> > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > > RE: Re: need advice-current

> > > divorce

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Ash, Anup, Harjeet and all,

> > > > >

> > > > > The reasons for questioning the authenticity in the birth

time in

> > > > respect of

> > > > > his spouse are followings.

> > > > >

> > > > > 1.His wife married on 1 Jun 2002 during Ra / Ve. Undoubtedly Ve

> > is the

> > > > > strongest significator for 7th house but there is also combined

> > > > delay caused

> > > > > by Sa and Ju both.

> > > > >

> > > > > This delay is overcome on 29 Aug 2004 during Ra/ Mo.

> > > > >

> > > > > As per the given time marriage could have taken place in Ma

antara

> > > > who is SD

> > > > > to Mo.

> > > > >

> > > > > Ma is also 6th lord.

> > > > >

> > > > > 2. This chart indicates harmony in married life because 7th from

> > > > lagna, Su

> > > > > and Mo all are in 3:11 ratio.

> > > > >

> > > > > 3.There is no blessings in the chart.

> > > > >

> > > > > 4. Both the luminaries are aspected by Sa.

> > > > >

> > > > > 5. Ve is under the affliction of Ra/Ke

> > > > >

> > > > > 6.Ma as 6th lord is in karak sthaan of 2nd and Mo the karka

> lord of

> > > > 2nd is

> > > > > in house B for 7th. The same Mo and Ma are in 4:10

relationship in

> > > > navamsa.

> > > > >

> > > > > This may indicate the separation and then divorce.

> > > > >

> > > > > But this factor is absent in her hussband chart.

> > > > >

> > > > > 7. 7th lord Ve is in dual sign indicating the second marriage.

> This

> > > > is not

> > > > > present in her husband chart.

> > > > >

> > > > > I thought these may be the reason which does not tally with her

> > > husband

> > > > > chart.

> > > > >

> > > > > This may be due to wrong birth time.

> > > > >

> > > > > When you change the time as 9:36 AM then also nothing changes

> except

> > > > > navamsa.

> > > > >

> > > > > You may correct me if I am wrong anywhere.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > >

> > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > >

> > > > > Ash <kas@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Here if you cast the chart of the natives wife with the

given time

> > > > of 8:30

> > > > > am, marriage happens in the highest power planet of Venus,

and yet

> > > > Ramesh

> > > > > and I both questioned the time of birth.

> > > > >

> > > > > And it turns out that the birth certificate time is of 9:32 AM

> which

> > > > is more

> > > > > than 1 hour difference. Even still the birth time might be

wrong.

> > > > >

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > >

> > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

> > ca/> ca/>

> > > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> ca

> > > > >

> > > > > _____

> > > > >

> > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > > [astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]

> > > On Behalf Of Ash

> > > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 10:38 PM

> > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > > RE: Re: need advice-current

> > > divorce

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Harjeet and All,

> > > > >

> > > > > Here the native has blessing if this chart is accurate. Most

> of the

> > > > points

> > > > > are less in 7th house so results are showing.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now, 6th lord is Saturn and its with 3 bindus in 10th house. So

> > > > from there

> > > > > he aspects 7th i.e LoB, House E, House D, LoA and LoC in

Navamsa.

> > > > So here

> > > > > results are more severe.

> > > > >

> > > > > Here for Quality, remove -5 points from 12th, 7th and 4th

and from

> > > > Mercury

> > > > > and sun as well for quality i.e. 5 points more to offset bad

> effects

> > > > of 6th

> > > > > lord.

> > > > >

> > > > > So only Moon is good for timing and quality.

> > > > >

> > > > > From lagna, sun, mo, ve and Ma all are in 4:10, 2:12, 4:10,

> 3:11 and

> > > > 2:12.

> > > > >

> > > > > Lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 in navamsa.

> > > > >

> > > > > As you have said, there is full delay of Sa for 27 years and

then

> > > of Ju

> > > > > after that. So marriage can happen in Rahu who is SD to 6th lord

> > > > and 7th

> > > > > lord Sa and Mo.

> > > > >

> > > > > After marriage, antra running have been of Ju who has less

> power in

> > > > 7th, and

> > > > > then after that Mercury who is 2nd lord and less power in 7th

> > house.

> > > > >

> > > > > Child birth in Sa antra who is SD to Ve the strongest

significator

> > > > for 5th

> > > > > house and Sa is NSD to Ve.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now the native is running Ketu antra and Ketu is in House E

> for 7th

> > > > as B and

> > > > > SD to Mo so again strong feelings are there and at the same

> time its

> > > > SD to

> > > > > Sa as well so again it can't give full happiness.

> > > > >

> > > > > After that again the antras are not strong for 7th house, sun

> has 12

> > > > points

> > > > > but again its aspected by Sa so quality is still poor.

> > > > >

> > > > > My suggestion in this case would be to try to reconcile with his

> > > > wife and to

> > > > > use the power of blessing. Try to let bygones be bygones and

start

> > > > afresh

> > > > > for the child.

> > > > >

> > > > > The native will have to do a lot of adjustment.

> > > > >

> > > > > Otherwise it's very difficult.

> > > > >

> > > > > On another note, just recently I gave the discussion that

> Krushnaji

> > > > gave on

> > > > > accepting time as given. Here this gentleman's wife's chart is a

> > > prime

> > > > > candidate on how data can be wrong and using KAS it can be

pointed

> > > out.

> > > > > Ramesh also pointed out the improper time of his wife and so

> did I.

> > > > >

> > > > > Actually this is based on concrete calculations and just

accepting

> > > > the time

> > > > > given as correct is not always proper. Unless one takes proper

> > > > effort to

> > > > > tally events and makes sure that things are fitting right or

even

> > > in the

> > > > > ball park.

> > > > >

> > > > > I will leave it to Ramesh to show and demonstrate the reason on

> > why he

> > > > > questioned the authenticity of birth time.

> > > > >

> > > > > Sometimes, people also change the dates and that I have

personally

> > > > > experienced. In any case, one thing is clear, that if the birth

> > > time is

> > > > > accurate then all the events of life will fall in place.

> > > > >

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > >

> > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

> <http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html/>

> > ca/> ca/>

> > > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> ca

> > > > >

> > > > > _____

> > > > >

> > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > > [astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]

> > > On Behalf Of harjeet

> > > > > bakshi

> > > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 9:07 PM

> > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > > Re: need advice-current

> divorce

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Amir,

> > > > > i am just learning KAS...

> > > > >

> > > > > taking marriage 5 years ago.. might have happened in the antra

> > of rahu

> > > > > samdhari to saturn lord of 6th and is situated in 6th house.

> > > > > now antra of ketu samdhari to moon which is having highest

> point for

> > > > > 7th house and situated in D... so chances of marriage to break(i

> > dont

> > > > > wish so.. but thats the law given in lesson).. but again rahu is

> > also

> > > > > samdhari to moon which has highest points for 7th house.

> > > > > Ashji please guide on this one..

> > > > > i think the result of marriage is spoiled because rahu being

> > samdhari

> > > > > to 6th lord saturn gave marriage.

> > > > > also 6th lord saturn has sight on B,D and E so marriage is

bad...

> > > > > result might be felt specially in the antra of saturn... 2004

> sep to

> > > > > 2006 apr.

> > > > > also during this antra gave bad results for house 4th and 7th

> aswell

> > > > > as 6th being in less points and 4th from sun and mercury.

> > > > > venus is in dual sign in both rasi(also aspecting 2nd house

> with -5

> > > > > points) and navamsa.. chances of 2 marriages.

> > > > > sun in 7th house.

> > > > > moon aspected by ketu in navamsa and with mars in rasi.. might

> cause

> > > > > you to take hasty steps.

> > > > > cant go more as out of time..

> > > > > try to put efforts to pursue your goal. one point

irrespective of

> > > > > birth time in your wife's chart is that your rahu and saturn

> aspects

> > > > > her mars based on sign overlapping. so there would be strong

> > > > > attraction between the couple... this might be the positive

> factor.

> > > > > thanks/regards

> > > > > harjeet

> > > > >

> > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > > > <%40>

> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,

> > > > > jay shanders

> > > > > <phillyanyone@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Mr. ramesh

> > > > > > how are you?/

> > > > > > thank you so much for your reply

> > > > > > as i am always gratful for all your help and i dont mean

to give

> > > > > you a hard time its just i depend on you so much for advice and

> > > > > prediction as to my current divorce proceeding

> > > > > > my wife has told me her birth time is 8:30 AM but i have a

> copy of

> > > > > her indian birth certificate and on there it has 9:36 AM so i

> > honestly

> > > > > dont know which one is for real as i cant even ask her right

> > now. can

> > > > > you use both and see what results you get. as using the 8:30

> AM you

> > > > > have said that there is no divorce now or future, does that

still

> > > > > hold. i just want to know that even though iam going through the

> > > > > divorce proceeding should i really worry as will it go through

> > and us

> > > > > divorce or will it Not happen and we stay married. my birth

> time is

> > > > > accurate so do i have divorce and 2nd marriage in my chart

???? i

> > > > > just want to know over all if me and my wife will have a long

> > lasting

> > > > > marriage ??

> > > > > >

> > > > > > please help me in any way possible as you are helping a person

> > > > > save his marriage and thus i have a daughter that i worry so

much

> > > > > about. any further information as to my chart will be

> appreciated??

> > > > > > thank you

> > > > > > amir

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Amir,

> > > > > > Please read my all mails sincerely.You will find all

> > > > > > your answers.

> > > > > > I had asked you before also the correctness of

> > > > > > birthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked you same

> > > > > > data.

> > > > > > Unless the birthtime is authenticated, all efforts

> > > > > > will be useless.

> > > > > > This I have already pointed you out.I think now you

> > > > > > understand it.

> > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- jay shanders <phillyanyone@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > > > > > namaste

> > > > > > > iam not confused as you have told me in last email

> > > > > > > that there is No divorce nor or future.

> > > > > > > iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for

> > > > > > > consults and you have beening gicing me

> > > > > > > predictions. so are you now saying that we will

> > > > > > > divorce now with likely chances of reunion in feb???

> > > > > > > so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce occur

> > > > > > > there will not be any chances of reunion since i

> > > > > > > cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would she

> > > > > > > reunite with me after it ??

> > > > > > > thank you

> > > > > > > amir

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear Amir,

> > > > > > > Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in

> > > > > > > the month of Feb/2008.

> > > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > phillyanyone <phillyanyone@> wrote:

> > > > > > > NAMASTE

> > > > > > > Dear Guruji

> > > > > > > Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated from my

> > > > > > > wife and daughter

> > > > > > > since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce

> > > > > > > proceeding status.

> > > > > > > because of many problems between my wife and her

> > > > > > > controling parents

> > > > > > > who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for

> > > > > > > divorce becase of

> > > > > > > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of

> > > > > > > weeks going by, i

> > > > > > > wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our

> > > > > > > marriage and she too

> > > > > > > wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now

> > > > > > > her parents are

> > > > > > > totally against her coming back and saving our

> > > > > > > marriage. my wife does

> > > > > > > not want to go aginst her parents and come back to

> > > > > > > me so she says

> > > > > > > thats it better to divorce and not work anything

> > > > > > > else. i have tried

> > > > > > > hard to convince her but nothing. we have been

> > > > > > > married for 5 years,

> > > > > > > on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on september

> > > > > > > 8, 2006. i have

> > > > > > > been told by many astrologer that neither have

> > > > > > > divorce or 2nd

> > > > > > > marriage so why iam I current in divorce status and

> > > > > > > will my marriage

> > > > > > > survive this current divorce status and me and my

> > > > > > > wfie getting back

> > > > > > > together. please advice as i need all the advice and

> > > > > > > help i can get

> > > > > > > to save my marriage and input as to what wil happen

> > > > > > > as to my marriage-

> > > > > > > divorce or us reuniting????

> > > > > > > thank you

> > > > > > > God bless

> > > > > > > amir

> > > > > > >

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September 19, 2007

Dear Sir,

ohh.. so cant we see navamsa lord and 9th navamsa lord and their

position in rasi 5:9 ?

jupiter and sun are in 8th and 12th house in rasi.

thanks/regards

harjeet

, " Ash " <kas wrote:

>

> How ?

>

> Ju and Sun are in 3rd house they are not in 5:9?

>

> Am I seeing something different ?

>

> Cheers !!!

>

> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

> _____

>

> On Behalf Of harjeet

> bakshi

> Wednesday September 19, 2007 2:46 PM

>

> Re: need advice-current divorce

>

> Dear Sir,

> as per 9:30, saggitarius asc. in navamsa. now lord of navamsa and 9th

> lord in navamsa jupiter and sun are 5:9 in rasi as stated in previous

> mail.

> thanks/regards

> harjeet

>

> astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents ,

> " Ash " <kas@> wrote:

> >

> > Yes, but there is no blessing so why was there early marriage?

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> >

> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca>

> >

> > _____

> >

> > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents

> > [astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents ]

> On Behalf Of harjeet

> > bakshi

> > Wednesday September 19, 2007 1:49 PM

> > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents

> > Re: need advice-current divorce

> >

> > Yes sir,

> > as per 9:30 i guess.. conception and birth both in jupiter antra.

> > i hope next antra of saturn lord of D..comes out good for the native.

> > thanks/regards

> > harjeet

> >

> > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,

> > " Ash " <kas@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Harjeet,

> > >

> > > Yes, with 8:40 AM lagna and 9th are in 5:9, with 9:30 Am, lagna

> and 9th

> > > lords are in 1:1 and not 5:9.

> > >

> > > Now also 6th lord is in 9th house but here its also LoE for 1st

> > house so it

> > > might not spoil 9th house. So yes, 8:40 AM time can be considered.

> > >

> > > Then if delay is reduced then antra after 18 years is Me and Ke who

> > are weak

> > > for 7th and then Venus comes and so Venus can give marriage.

> > >

> > > Now in this case 11th points are less than 12th so we must find out

> > if this

> > > girl has more spending trend.

> > >

> > > Here Mars is aspecting mercury who is 11th lord and Rahu is also in

> > 11th and

> > > aspecting Mercury so again was there any miscarriage or a cesearean

> > birth?

> > >

> > > So u have to start to now confirm, with that time 4 sectors of

> > Mercury and 2

> > > of Sa are there so that can give u idea of her nature, so again

> confirm

> > > that.

> > >

> > > That is why having many events is important so yes good observation

> > on the

> > > time of 8:40 AM.

> > >

> > > If this girl does not have more spending trend then the lagna

might be

> > > different or even the date might be different.

> > >

> > > Conception happened in dec 2005 (approx) with delivery in sept 2007

> > so that

> > > falls in Mars antra. Power for Ma is less for 11th and 5th.

> > >

> > > So that is not matching but Mo can give. After marriage in antra of

> > Venus,

> > > Sun antra came and Sun is weak for 11th so it might give or

might give

> > > miscarriage and Mo should give conception.

> > >

> > > So again some more rectification might be required.

> > >

> > > So like that.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > >

> > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

> ca> ca>

> > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > [astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]

> > On Behalf Of harjeet

> > > bakshi

> > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 12:46 PM

> > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > Re: need advice-current divorce

> > >

> > > Dear Ashji,

> > > if in navamsa virgo asc. arises.. then in navamsa me and venus i.e.

> > > lord of 1st and 9th house is in 5:9. with 8:40 am.

> > > with 9:30 saggi asc. in navamsa again sun and jupiter in 5:9 in rasi

> > > which are lord of 1st and 9th in navamsa.

> > > thanks/regards

> > > harjeet

> > >

> > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,

> > > " Ash " <kas@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Harjeet,

> > > >

> > > > How can 2nd lord aspect be like 6th lord. Something is wrong

> > > somewhere. If

> > > > you find that post let me know.

> > > >

> > > > 6th house is most malefic and its 12th from B = 7.

> > > >

> > > > Harjeet, if you just take Marriage in Ve antra being most powerful

> > > then even

> > > > with 8:30 AM u will still get marriage in Ve antra.

> > > >

> > > > Harjeet, please give the calculations here for computing

marriage in

> > > detail

> > > > using both times. This will give u good practice.

> > > >

> > > > I will look forward to proper calculations and that will help all.

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > >

> > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

> > ca> ca>

> > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca>

ca> ca>

> ca

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > [astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]

> > > On Behalf Of harjeet

> > > > bakshi

> > > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 11:59 AM

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > Re: need advice-current

divorce

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ashji/Mishraji/Amir,

> > > > 9:30 why cant be considered close to correct birth time ?

> > > > marriage happened in the antra of E and most powerful

significator.

> > > > conception and birth of child occurs in antra of jupiter

having very

> > > > strong points for 5th,11th and 12th house.

> > > > jupiter is having least points for 7th house. and is also lord

> of 2nd

> > > > house so more problems/tensions and bad result pertaining to 7th

> > > > house. jupiter also aspects house A,E and D with -5 points.

> > > > so result pertaining to this house is bad during its antra.

> > > > somewhere in archive i think i read to look at 2nd lord's

aspect too

> > > > just like 6th house..please correct me if i am wrong.

> > > > again mars lord of 6th aspects house D and E.. and also

aspects lord

> > > > of C. and also has low points for 7th house.

> > > > so the antra of mars 2004 nov to 2005 nov must have created

problems

> > > > in married life ? if Amir can comment on this.?

> > > > next coming antra of saturn lord of D... early 2008 jan end or

feb..

> > > > should bring better results ?

> > > > Amir can you provide some information about career of your

wife.. if

> > > > she dont work.. or work very hard but dont earn enough and the

> > > > expenditure is too much from her side ?

> > > > thanks/regards

> > > > harjeet

> > > >

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > > <%40>

> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,

> > > > " harjeet bakshi "

> > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Mishraji,

> > > > > for husband(Amir) chart, venus is in pisces which is dual sign.

> > > > > thanks/regards

> > > > > harjeet

> > > > >

> > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > > <%40>

> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,

> > > > " Ash " <kas@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Well explained with proper and concrete reasoning based on

KAS.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > That is the reason why I mentioned in my last line, that the

> birth

> > > > > time may

> > > > > > still be wrong. :-)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

> > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca>

> > > ca> ca>

> <http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html/>

> > > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca>

> ca> ca>

> > ca

> > > > > >

> > > > > > _____

> > > > > >

> > > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > > <%40>

> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > > > [astrologyandtiminge

> > > > <%40>

> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]

> > > > On Behalf Of

> > > > > ramesh mishra

> > > > > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 2:12 AM

> > > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > > <%40>

> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > > > RE: Re: need

advice-current

> > > > divorce

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Ash, Anup, Harjeet and all,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The reasons for questioning the authenticity in the birth

> time in

> > > > > respect of

> > > > > > his spouse are followings.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1.His wife married on 1 Jun 2002 during Ra / Ve.

Undoubtedly Ve

> > > is the

> > > > > > strongest significator for 7th house but there is also

combined

> > > > > delay caused

> > > > > > by Sa and Ju both.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > This delay is overcome on 29 Aug 2004 during Ra/ Mo.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > As per the given time marriage could have taken place in Ma

> antara

> > > > > who is SD

> > > > > > to Mo.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ma is also 6th lord.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2. This chart indicates harmony in married life because

7th from

> > > > > lagna, Su

> > > > > > and Mo all are in 3:11 ratio.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 3.There is no blessings in the chart.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 4. Both the luminaries are aspected by Sa.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 5. Ve is under the affliction of Ra/Ke

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 6.Ma as 6th lord is in karak sthaan of 2nd and Mo the karka

> > lord of

> > > > > 2nd is

> > > > > > in house B for 7th. The same Mo and Ma are in 4:10

> relationship in

> > > > > navamsa.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > This may indicate the separation and then divorce.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > But this factor is absent in her hussband chart.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 7. 7th lord Ve is in dual sign indicating the second marriage.

> > This

> > > > > is not

> > > > > > present in her husband chart.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I thought these may be the reason which does not tally

with her

> > > > husband

> > > > > > chart.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > This may be due to wrong birth time.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > When you change the time as 9:36 AM then also nothing changes

> > except

> > > > > > navamsa.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > You may correct me if I am wrong anywhere.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ash <kas@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Here if you cast the chart of the natives wife with the

> given time

> > > > > of 8:30

> > > > > > am, marriage happens in the highest power planet of Venus,

> and yet

> > > > > Ramesh

> > > > > > and I both questioned the time of birth.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > And it turns out that the birth certificate time is of 9:32 AM

> > which

> > > > > is more

> > > > > > than 1 hour difference. Even still the birth time might be

> wrong.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

> > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/>

ca/> ca/>

> > > ca/> ca/>

> > > > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

> > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> ca> ca

> > > > > >

> > > > > > _____

> > > > > >

> > > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > > <%40>

> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > > > [astrologyandtiminge

> > > > <%40>

> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]

> > > > On Behalf Of Ash

> > > > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 10:38 PM

> > > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > > <%40>

> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > > > RE: Re: need

advice-current

> > > > divorce

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Harjeet and All,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Here the native has blessing if this chart is accurate. Most

> > of the

> > > > > points

> > > > > > are less in 7th house so results are showing.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Now, 6th lord is Saturn and its with 3 bindus in 10th

house. So

> > > > > from there

> > > > > > he aspects 7th i.e LoB, House E, House D, LoA and LoC in

> Navamsa.

> > > > > So here

> > > > > > results are more severe.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Here for Quality, remove -5 points from 12th, 7th and 4th

> and from

> > > > > Mercury

> > > > > > and sun as well for quality i.e. 5 points more to offset bad

> > effects

> > > > > of 6th

> > > > > > lord.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > So only Moon is good for timing and quality.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > From lagna, sun, mo, ve and Ma all are in 4:10, 2:12, 4:10,

> > 3:11 and

> > > > > 2:12.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 in navamsa.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > As you have said, there is full delay of Sa for 27 years and

> then

> > > > of Ju

> > > > > > after that. So marriage can happen in Rahu who is SD to

6th lord

> > > > > and 7th

> > > > > > lord Sa and Mo.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > After marriage, antra running have been of Ju who has less

> > power in

> > > > > 7th, and

> > > > > > then after that Mercury who is 2nd lord and less power in 7th

> > > house.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Child birth in Sa antra who is SD to Ve the strongest

> significator

> > > > > for 5th

> > > > > > house and Sa is NSD to Ve.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Now the native is running Ketu antra and Ketu is in House E

> > for 7th

> > > > > as B and

> > > > > > SD to Mo so again strong feelings are there and at the same

> > time its

> > > > > SD to

> > > > > > Sa as well so again it can't give full happiness.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > After that again the antras are not strong for 7th house, sun

> > has 12

> > > > > points

> > > > > > but again its aspected by Sa so quality is still poor.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My suggestion in this case would be to try to reconcile

with his

> > > > > wife and to

> > > > > > use the power of blessing. Try to let bygones be bygones and

> start

> > > > > afresh

> > > > > > for the child.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The native will have to do a lot of adjustment.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Otherwise it's very difficult.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On another note, just recently I gave the discussion that

> > Krushnaji

> > > > > gave on

> > > > > > accepting time as given. Here this gentleman's wife's

chart is a

> > > > prime

> > > > > > candidate on how data can be wrong and using KAS it can be

> pointed

> > > > out.

> > > > > > Ramesh also pointed out the improper time of his wife and so

> > did I.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Actually this is based on concrete calculations and just

> accepting

> > > > > the time

> > > > > > given as correct is not always proper. Unless one takes proper

> > > > > effort to

> > > > > > tally events and makes sure that things are fitting right or

> even

> > > > in the

> > > > > > ball park.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I will leave it to Ramesh to show and demonstrate the

reason on

> > > why he

> > > > > > questioned the authenticity of birth time.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sometimes, people also change the dates and that I have

> personally

> > > > > > experienced. In any case, one thing is clear, that if the

birth

> > > > time is

> > > > > > accurate then all the events of life will fall in place.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

> > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/>

ca/> ca/>

> > > ca/> ca/>

> > > > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

> > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> ca> ca

> > > > > >

> > > > > > _____

> > > > > >

> > > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > > <%40>

> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > > > [astrologyandtiminge

> > > > <%40>

> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]

> > > > On Behalf Of harjeet

> > > > > > bakshi

> > > > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 9:07 PM

> > > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > > <%40>

> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > > > Re: need advice-current

> > divorce

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Amir,

> > > > > > i am just learning KAS...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > taking marriage 5 years ago.. might have happened in the antra

> > > of rahu

> > > > > > samdhari to saturn lord of 6th and is situated in 6th house.

> > > > > > now antra of ketu samdhari to moon which is having highest

> > point for

> > > > > > 7th house and situated in D... so chances of marriage to

break(i

> > > dont

> > > > > > wish so.. but thats the law given in lesson).. but again

rahu is

> > > also

> > > > > > samdhari to moon which has highest points for 7th house.

> > > > > > Ashji please guide on this one..

> > > > > > i think the result of marriage is spoiled because rahu being

> > > samdhari

> > > > > > to 6th lord saturn gave marriage.

> > > > > > also 6th lord saturn has sight on B,D and E so marriage is

> bad...

> > > > > > result might be felt specially in the antra of saturn... 2004

> > sep to

> > > > > > 2006 apr.

> > > > > > also during this antra gave bad results for house 4th and 7th

> > aswell

> > > > > > as 6th being in less points and 4th from sun and mercury.

> > > > > > venus is in dual sign in both rasi(also aspecting 2nd house

> > with -5

> > > > > > points) and navamsa.. chances of 2 marriages.

> > > > > > sun in 7th house.

> > > > > > moon aspected by ketu in navamsa and with mars in rasi.. might

> > cause

> > > > > > you to take hasty steps.

> > > > > > cant go more as out of time..

> > > > > > try to put efforts to pursue your goal. one point

> irrespective of

> > > > > > birth time in your wife's chart is that your rahu and saturn

> > aspects

> > > > > > her mars based on sign overlapping. so there would be strong

> > > > > > attraction between the couple... this might be the positive

> > factor.

> > > > > > thanks/regards

> > > > > > harjeet

> > > > > >

> > > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > > > > <%40>

> > > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,

> > > > > > jay shanders

> > > > > > <phillyanyone@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Mr. ramesh

> > > > > > > how are you?/

> > > > > > > thank you so much for your reply

> > > > > > > as i am always gratful for all your help and i dont mean

> to give

> > > > > > you a hard time its just i depend on you so much for

advice and

> > > > > > prediction as to my current divorce proceeding

> > > > > > > my wife has told me her birth time is 8:30 AM but i have a

> > copy of

> > > > > > her indian birth certificate and on there it has 9:36 AM so i

> > > honestly

> > > > > > dont know which one is for real as i cant even ask her right

> > > now. can

> > > > > > you use both and see what results you get. as using the 8:30

> > AM you

> > > > > > have said that there is no divorce now or future, does that

> still

> > > > > > hold. i just want to know that even though iam going

through the

> > > > > > divorce proceeding should i really worry as will it go through

> > > and us

> > > > > > divorce or will it Not happen and we stay married. my birth

> > time is

> > > > > > accurate so do i have divorce and 2nd marriage in my chart

> ???? i

> > > > > > just want to know over all if me and my wife will have a long

> > > lasting

> > > > > > marriage ??

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > please help me in any way possible as you are helping a

person

> > > > > > save his marriage and thus i have a daughter that i worry so

> much

> > > > > > about. any further information as to my chart will be

> > appreciated??

> > > > > > > thank you

> > > > > > > amir

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear Amir,

> > > > > > > Please read my all mails sincerely.You will find all

> > > > > > > your answers.

> > > > > > > I had asked you before also the correctness of

> > > > > > > birthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked you same

> > > > > > > data.

> > > > > > > Unless the birthtime is authenticated, all efforts

> > > > > > > will be useless.

> > > > > > > This I have already pointed you out.I think now you

> > > > > > > understand it.

> > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- jay shanders <phillyanyone@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > > > > > > namaste

> > > > > > > > iam not confused as you have told me in last email

> > > > > > > > that there is No divorce nor or future.

> > > > > > > > iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for

> > > > > > > > consults and you have beening gicing me

> > > > > > > > predictions. so are you now saying that we will

> > > > > > > > divorce now with likely chances of reunion in feb???

> > > > > > > > so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce occur

> > > > > > > > there will not be any chances of reunion since i

> > > > > > > > cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would she

> > > > > > > > reunite with me after it ??

> > > > > > > > thank you

> > > > > > > > amir

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > Dear Amir,

> > > > > > > > Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in

> > > > > > > > the month of Feb/2008.

> > > > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > phillyanyone <phillyanyone@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > NAMASTE

> > > > > > > > Dear Guruji

> > > > > > > > Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated from my

> > > > > > > > wife and daughter

> > > > > > > > since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce

> > > > > > > > proceeding status.

> > > > > > > > because of many problems between my wife and her

> > > > > > > > controling parents

> > > > > > > > who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for

> > > > > > > > divorce becase of

> > > > > > > > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of

> > > > > > > > weeks going by, i

> > > > > > > > wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our

> > > > > > > > marriage and she too

> > > > > > > > wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now

> > > > > > > > her parents are

> > > > > > > > totally against her coming back and saving our

> > > > > > > > marriage. my wife does

> > > > > > > > not want to go aginst her parents and come back to

> > > > > > > > me so she says

> > > > > > > > thats it better to divorce and not work anything

> > > > > > > > else. i have tried

> > > > > > > > hard to convince her but nothing. we have been

> > > > > > > > married for 5 years,

> > > > > > > > on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on september

> > > > > > > > 8, 2006. i have

> > > > > > > > been told by many astrologer that neither have

> > > > > > > > divorce or 2nd

> > > > > > > > marriage so why iam I current in divorce status and

> > > > > > > > will my marriage

> > > > > > > > survive this current divorce status and me and my

> > > > > > > > wfie getting back

> > > > > > > > together. please advice as i need all the advice and

> > > > > > > > help i can get

> > > > > > > > to save my marriage and input as to what wil happen

> > > > > > > > as to my marriage-

> > > > > > > > divorce or us reuniting????

> > > > > > > > thank you

> > > > > > > > God bless

> > > > > > > > amir

> > > > > > > >

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September 19, 2007

I shall wait for Anup and Ramesh and others if they would like to

share their thoughts.

Here you have to start to apply yourself to go deeper.

Cheers !!!

On Behalf Of harjeet bakshi

Wednesday September 19, 2007

3:49 PM

Subject:

Re: need advice-current divorce

,

" Ash " <kas wrote:

>

O.K.

one more try .

here 6th lord is same as lagna lord.

its trine to 9th lord...

i.e. lord of C and D in house B.

house C is the house for result..

same thing with taurus lagna.

thanks/regards

harjeet

> No Harjeet,

>

> Think more on it. Krushnaji has told in short. Study carefully,

lagna and

> 9th we see so here Ma is in 9th house .. what is special? Why it

did not

> spoil ?

>

> Cheers !!!

>

> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca>

>

> _____

>

On Behalf Of harjeet

> bakshi

> Wednesday September 19, 2007 3:10 PM

>

> Re: need advice-current divorce

>

> Dear Ashji,

> although 6th house is D for 9th house.. but its for all lagna.

> for scorpio lagna moon is lord of 9th which is nsd to mars 6th lord..

> may be thats the reason.. thats what i can come up with .

> thanks/regards

> harjeet

>

> astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents ,

> " Ash " <kas@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Harjeet, Anup, Ramesh and all,

> >

> > Here Ma is in 9th house who is lord of 6th house so why wouldn't it

> spoil

> > 9th house results?

> >

> > What is special about this lagna?

> >

> > What other lagna would this be applicable to and why?

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> >

> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.

> >

> > _____

> >

> > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents

> > [astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents ]

> On Behalf Of Ash

> > Wednesday September 19, 2007 1:23 PM

> > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents

> > RE: Re: need advice-current

divorce

> >

> > Dear Harjeet,

> >

> > Good analysis on the 5:9 :-)

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> >

> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.

> >

> > _____

> >

> > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents

> > [astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents ]

> On Behalf Of harjeet

> > bakshi

> > Wednesday September 19, 2007 12:46 PM

> > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents

> > Re: need advice-current

divorce

> >

> > Dear Ashji,

> > if in navamsa virgo asc. arises.. then in navamsa me and venus i.e.

> > lord of 1st and 9th house is in 5:9. with 8:40 am.

> > with 9:30 saggi asc. in navamsa again sun and jupiter in 5:9 in rasi

> > which are lord of 1st and 9th in navamsa.

> > thanks/regards

> > harjeet

> >

> > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,

> > " Ash " <kas@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Harjeet,

> > >

> > > How can 2nd lord aspect be like 6th lord. Something is wrong

> > somewhere. If

> > > you find that post let me know.

> > >

> > > 6th house is most malefic and its 12th from B = 7.

> > >

> > > Harjeet, if you just take Marriage in Ve antra being most

powerful

> > then even

> > > with 8:30 AM u will still get marriage in Ve antra.

> > >

> > > Harjeet, please give the calculations here for computing

marriage in

> > detail

> > > using both times. This will give u good practice.

> > >

> > > I will look forward to proper calculations and that will help

all.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > >

> > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.

> ca> ca>

> > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > [astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]

> > On Behalf Of harjeet

> > > bakshi

> > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 11:59 AM

> > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > Re: need advice-current

divorce

> > >

> > > Dear Ashji/Mishraji/Amir,

> > > 9:30 why cant be considered close to correct birth time ?

> > > marriage happened in the antra of E and most powerful

significator.

> > > conception and birth of child occurs in antra of jupiter having

very

> > > strong points for 5th,11th and 12th house.

> > > jupiter is having least points for 7th house. and is also lord

of 2nd

> > > house so more problems/tensions and bad result pertaining to 7th

> > > house. jupiter also aspects house A,E and D with -5 points.

> > > so result pertaining to this house is bad during its antra.

> > > somewhere in archive i think i read to look at 2nd lord's aspect

too

> > > just like 6th house..please correct me if i am wrong.

> > > again mars lord of 6th aspects house D and E.. and also aspects

lord

> > > of C. and also has low points for 7th house.

> > > so the antra of mars 2004 nov to 2005 nov must have created

problems

> > > in married life ? if Amir can comment on this.?

> > > next coming antra of saturn lord of D... early 2008 jan end or

feb..

> > > should bring better results ?

> > > Amir can you provide some information about career of your

wife.. if

> > > she dont work.. or work very hard but dont earn enough and the

> > > expenditure is too much from her side ?

> > > thanks/regards

> > > harjeet

> > >

> > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40>

com,

> > > " harjeet bakshi "

> > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Mishraji,

> > > > for husband(Amir) chart, venus is in pisces which is dual

sign.

> > > > thanks/regards

> > > > harjeet

> > > >

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40>

com,

> > > " Ash " <kas@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > > >

> > > > > Well explained with proper and concrete reasoning

based on KAS.

> > > > >

> > > > > That is the reason why I mentioned in my last line,

that the

birth

> > > > time may

> > > > > still be wrong. :-)

> > > > >

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > >

> > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.

> > ca> ca>

> > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca>

ca> ca>

> ca

> > > > >

> > > > > _____

> > > > >

> > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40>

com

> > > > > [astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40>

com]

> > > On Behalf Of

> > > > ramesh mishra

> > > > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 2:12 AM

> > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40>

com

> > > > > RE: Re: need

advice-current

> > > divorce

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Ash, Anup, Harjeet and all,

> > > > >

> > > > > The reasons for questioning the authenticity in the

birth

time in

> > > > respect of

> > > > > his spouse are followings.

> > > > >

> > > > > 1.His wife married on 1 Jun 2002 during Ra / Ve.

Undoubtedly Ve

> > is the

> > > > > strongest significator for 7th house but there is also

combined

> > > > delay caused

> > > > > by Sa and Ju both.

> > > > >

> > > > > This delay is overcome on 29 Aug 2004 during Ra/ Mo.

> > > > >

> > > > > As per the given time marriage could have taken place

in Ma

antara

> > > > who is SD

> > > > > to Mo.

> > > > >

> > > > > Ma is also 6th lord.

> > > > >

> > > > > 2. This chart indicates harmony in married life

because 7th from

> > > > lagna, Su

> > > > > and Mo all are in 3:11 ratio.

> > > > >

> > > > > 3.There is no blessings in the chart.

> > > > >

> > > > > 4. Both the luminaries are aspected by Sa.

> > > > >

> > > > > 5. Ve is under the affliction of Ra/Ke

> > > > >

> > > > > 6.Ma as 6th lord is in karak sthaan of 2nd and Mo the

karka

> lord of

> > > > 2nd is

> > > > > in house B for 7th. The same Mo and Ma are in 4:10

relationship in

> > > > navamsa.

> > > > >

> > > > > This may indicate the separation and then divorce.

> > > > >

> > > > > But this factor is absent in her hussband chart.

> > > > >

> > > > > 7. 7th lord Ve is in dual sign indicating the second

marriage.

> This

> > > > is not

> > > > > present in her husband chart.

> > > > >

> > > > > I thought these may be the reason which does not tally

with her

> > > husband

> > > > > chart.

> > > > >

> > > > > This may be due to wrong birth time.

> > > > >

> > > > > When you change the time as 9:36 AM then also nothing

changes

> except

> > > > > navamsa.

> > > > >

> > > > > You may correct me if I am wrong anywhere.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > >

> > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > >

> > > > > Ash <kas@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Here if you cast the chart of the natives wife with

the

given time

> > > > of 8:30

> > > > > am, marriage happens in the highest power planet of

Venus,

and yet

> > > > Ramesh

> > > > > and I both questioned the time of birth.

> > > > >

> > > > > And it turns out that the birth certificate time is of

9:32 AM

> which

> > > > is more

> > > > > than 1 hour difference. Even still the birth time

might be

wrong.

> > > > >

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > >

> > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.

> > ca/> ca/>

> > > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

ca> ca> ca

> > > > >

> > > > > _____

> > > > >

> > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40>

com

> > > > > [astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40>

com]

> > > On Behalf Of Ash

> > > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 10:38 PM

> > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40>

com

> > > > > RE: Re: need

advice-current

> > > divorce

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Harjeet and All,

> > > > >

> > > > > Here the native has blessing if this chart is accurate.

Most

> of the

> > > > points

> > > > > are less in 7th house so results are showing.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now, 6th lord is Saturn and its with 3 bindus in 10th

house. So

> > > > from there

> > > > > he aspects 7th i.e LoB, House E, House D, LoA and LoC

in

Navamsa.

> > > > So here

> > > > > results are more severe.

> > > > >

> > > > > Here for Quality, remove -5 points from 12th, 7th and

4th

and from

> > > > Mercury

> > > > > and sun as well for quality i.e. 5 points more to

offset bad

> effects

> > > > of 6th

> > > > > lord.

> > > > >

> > > > > So only Moon is good for timing and quality.

> > > > >

> > > > > From lagna, sun, mo, ve and Ma all are in 4:10, 2:12,

4:10,

> 3:11 and

> > > > 2:12.

> > > > >

> > > > > Lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 in navamsa.

> > > > >

> > > > > As you have said, there is full delay of Sa for 27

years and

then

> > > of Ju

> > > > > after that. So marriage can happen in Rahu who is SD

to 6th lord

> > > > and 7th

> > > > > lord Sa and Mo.

> > > > >

> > > > > After marriage, antra running have been of Ju who has

less

> power in

> > > > 7th, and

> > > > > then after that Mercury who is 2nd lord and less power

in 7th

> > house.

> > > > >

> > > > > Child birth in Sa antra who is SD to Ve the strongest

significator

> > > > for 5th

> > > > > house and Sa is NSD to Ve.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now the native is running Ketu antra and Ketu is in

House E

> for 7th

> > > > as B and

> > > > > SD to Mo so again strong feelings are there and at the

same

> time its

> > > > SD to

> > > > > Sa as well so again it can't give full happiness.

> > > > >

> > > > > After that again the antras are not strong for 7th

house, sun

> has 12

> > > > points

> > > > > but again its aspected by Sa so quality is still poor.

> > > > >

> > > > > My suggestion in this case would be to try to

reconcile with his

> > > > wife and to

> > > > > use the power of blessing. Try to let bygones be

bygones and

start

> > > > afresh

> > > > > for the child.

> > > > >

> > > > > The native will have to do a lot of adjustment.

> > > > >

> > > > > Otherwise it's very difficult.

> > > > >

> > > > > On another note, just recently I gave the discussion

that

> Krushnaji

> > > > gave on

> > > > > accepting time as given. Here this gentleman's wife's

chart is a

> > > prime

> > > > > candidate on how data can be wrong and using KAS it

can be

pointed

> > > out.

> > > > > Ramesh also pointed out the improper time of his wife

and so

> did I.

> > > > >

> > > > > Actually this is based on concrete calculations and

just

accepting

> > > > the time

> > > > > given as correct is not always proper. Unless one

takes proper

> > > > effort to

> > > > > tally events and makes sure that things are fitting

right or

even

> > > in the

> > > > > ball park.

> > > > >

> > > > > I will leave it to Ramesh to show and demonstrate the

reason on

> > why he

> > > > > questioned the authenticity of birth time.

> > > > >

> > > > > Sometimes, people also change the dates and that I

have

personally

> > > > > experienced. In any case, one thing is clear, that if

the birth

> > > time is

> > > > > accurate then all the events of life will fall in

place.

> > > > >

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > >

> > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.

> > ca/> ca/>

> > > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

> <http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html/>

ca> ca> ca

> > > > >

> > > > > _____

> > > > >

> > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40>

com

> > > > > [astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]

> > > On Behalf Of harjeet

> > > > > bakshi

> > > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 9:07 PM

> > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40>

com

> > > > > Re: need

advice-current

> divorce

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Amir,

> > > > > i am just learning KAS...

> > > > >

> > > > > taking marriage 5 years ago.. might have happened in

the antra

> > of rahu

> > > > > samdhari to saturn lord of 6th and is situated in 6th

house.

> > > > > now antra of ketu samdhari to moon which is having

highest

> point for

> > > > > 7th house and situated in D... so chances of marriage

to break(i

> > dont

> > > > > wish so.. but thats the law given in lesson).. but

again rahu is

> > also

> > > > > samdhari to moon which has highest points for 7th

house.

> > > > > Ashji please guide on this one..

> > > > > i think the result of marriage is spoiled because rahu

being

> > samdhari

> > > > > to 6th lord saturn gave marriage.

> > > > > also 6th lord saturn has sight on B,D and E so

marriage is

bad...

> > > > > result might be felt specially in the antra of

saturn... 2004

> sep to

> > > > > 2006 apr.

> > > > > also during this antra gave bad results for house 4th

and 7th

> aswell

> > > > > as 6th being in less points and 4th from sun and

mercury.

> > > > > venus is in dual sign in both rasi(also aspecting 2nd

house

> with -5

> > > > > points) and navamsa.. chances of 2 marriages.

> > > > > sun in 7th house.

> > > > > moon aspected by ketu in navamsa and with mars in

rasi.. might

> cause

> > > > > you to take hasty steps.

> > > > > cant go more as out of time..

> > > > > try to put efforts to pursue your goal. one point

irrespective of

> > > > > birth time in your wife's chart is that your rahu and

saturn

> aspects

> > > > > her mars based on sign overlapping. so there would be

strong

> > > > > attraction between the couple... this might be the

positive

> factor.

> > > > > thanks/regards

> > > > > harjeet

> > > > >

> > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > > > <%40>

> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40>

com,

> > > > > jay shanders

> > > > > <phillyanyone@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Mr. ramesh

> > > > > > how are you?/

> > > > > > thank you so much for your reply

> > > > > > as i am always gratful for all your help and i

dont mean

to give

> > > > > you a hard time its just i depend on you so much for

advice and

> > > > > prediction as to my current divorce proceeding

> > > > > > my wife has told me her birth time is 8:30 AM but

i have a

> copy of

> > > > > her indian birth certificate and on there it has 9:36

AM so i

> > honestly

> > > > > dont know which one is for real as i cant even ask her

right

> > now. can

> > > > > you use both and see what results you get. as using

the 8:30

> AM you

> > > > > have said that there is no divorce now or future, does

that

still

> > > > > hold. i just want to know that even though iam going

through the

> > > > > divorce proceeding should i really worry as will it go

through

> > and us

> > > > > divorce or will it Not happen and we stay married. my

birth

> time is

> > > > > accurate so do i have divorce and 2nd marriage in my

chart

???? i

> > > > > just want to know over all if me and my wife will have

a long

> > lasting

> > > > > marriage ??

> > > > > >

> > > > > > please help me in any way possible as you are

helping a person

> > > > > save his marriage and thus i have a daughter that i

worry so

much

> > > > > about. any further information as to my chart will be

> appreciated??

> > > > > > thank you

> > > > > > amir

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@>

wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Amir,

> > > > > > Please read my all mails sincerely.You will find

all

> > > > > > your answers.

> > > > > > I had asked you before also the correctness of

> > > > > > birthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked you

same

> > > > > > data.

> > > > > > Unless the birthtime is authenticated, all

efforts

> > > > > > will be useless.

> > > > > > This I have already pointed you out.I think now

you

> > > > > > understand it.

> > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- jay shanders <phillyanyone@>

wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > > > > > namaste

> > > > > > > iam not confused as you have told me in last

email

> > > > > > > that there is No divorce nor or future.

> > > > > > > iam the same Amir that has been emailing you

for

> > > > > > > consults and you have beening gicing me

> > > > > > > predictions. so are you now saying that we

will

> > > > > > > divorce now with likely chances of reunion

in feb???

> > > > > > > so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce

occur

> > > > > > > there will not be any chances of reunion

since i

> > > > > > > cant stop my wife from divorcing then why

would she

> > > > > > > reunite with me after it ??

> > > > > > > thank you

> > > > > > > amir

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@>

wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear Amir,

> > > > > > > Likely chances for re-union is there

sometime in

> > > > > > > the month of Feb/2008.

> > > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > phillyanyone <phillyanyone@>

wrote:

> > > > > > > NAMASTE

> > > > > > > Dear Guruji

> > > > > > > Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated

from my

> > > > > > > wife and daughter

> > > > > > > since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce

> > > > > > > proceeding status.

> > > > > > > because of many problems between my wife and

her

> > > > > > > controling parents

> > > > > > > who have strong influence on her i hastly

filed for

> > > > > > > divorce becase of

> > > > > > > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after

couple of

> > > > > > > weeks going by, i

> > > > > > > wanted to reconcile with my wife and save

our

> > > > > > > marriage and she too

> > > > > > > wanted to come back and save our amrriage

but now

> > > > > > > her parents are

> > > > > > > totally against her coming back and saving

our

> > > > > > > marriage. my wife does

> > > > > > > not want to go aginst her parents and come

back to

> > > > > > > me so she says

> > > > > > > thats it better to divorce and not work

anything

> > > > > > > else. i have tried

> > > > > > > hard to convince her but nothing. we have

been

> > > > > > > married for 5 years,

> > > > > > > on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on

september

> > > > > > > 8, 2006. i have

> > > > > > > been told by many astrologer that neither

have

> > > > > > > divorce or 2nd

> > > > > > > marriage so why iam I current in divorce

status and

> > > > > > > will my marriage

> > > > > > > survive this current divorce status and me

and my

> > > > > > > wfie getting back

> > > > > > > together. please advice as i need all the

advice and

> > > > > > > help i can get

> > > > > > > to save my marriage and input as to what wil

happen

> > > > > > > as to my marriage-

> > > > > > > divorce or us reuniting????

> > > > > > > thank you

> > > > > > > God bless

> > > > > > > amir

> > > > > > >

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September 19, 2007

No Harjeet you can’t do that.

Only Lagna and 9th lord of

lagna we check in Rasi and then Navamsa. Then we check Navamsa lagna and 9th

lord in NAVAMSA ONLY.

Cheers !!!

On Behalf Of harjeet bakshi

Wednesday September 19, 2007

3:52 PM

Subject:

Re: need advice-current divorce

Dear Sir,

ohh.. so cant we see navamsa lord and 9th navamsa lord and their

position in rasi 5:9 ?

jupiter and sun are in 8th and 12th house in rasi.

thanks/regards

harjeet

,

" Ash " <kas wrote:

>

> How ?

>

> Ju and Sun are in 3rd house they are not in 5:9?

>

> Am I seeing something different ?

>

> Cheers !!!

>

> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca>

>

> _____

>

On Behalf Of harjeet

> bakshi

> Wednesday September 19, 2007 2:46 PM

>

> Re: need advice-current divorce

>

> Dear Sir,

> as per 9:30, saggitarius asc. in navamsa. now lord of navamsa and 9th

> lord in navamsa jupiter and sun are 5:9 in rasi as stated in previous

> mail.

> thanks/regards

> harjeet

>

> astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents ,

> " Ash " <kas@> wrote:

> >

> > Yes, but there is no blessing so why was there early marriage?

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> >

> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.

> >

> > _____

> >

> > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents

> > [astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents ]

> On Behalf Of harjeet

> > bakshi

> > Wednesday September 19, 2007 1:49 PM

> > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents

> > Re: need advice-current

divorce

> >

> > Yes sir,

> > as per 9:30 i guess.. conception and birth both in jupiter antra.

> > i hope next antra of saturn lord of D..comes out good for the native.

> > thanks/regards

> > harjeet

> >

> > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,

> > " Ash " <kas@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Harjeet,

> > >

> > > Yes, with 8:40 AM lagna and 9th are in 5:9, with 9:30 Am, lagna

> and 9th

> > > lords are in 1:1 and not 5:9.

> > >

> > > Now also 6th lord is in 9th house but here its also LoE for 1st

> > house so it

> > > might not spoil 9th house. So yes, 8:40 AM time can be

considered.

> > >

> > > Then if delay is reduced then antra after 18 years is Me and Ke

who

> > are weak

> > > for 7th and then Venus comes and so Venus can give marriage.

> > >

> > > Now in this case 11th points are less than 12th so we must find

out

> > if this

> > > girl has more spending trend.

> > >

> > > Here Mars is aspecting mercury who is 11th lord and Rahu is also

in

> > 11th and

> > > aspecting Mercury so again was there any miscarriage or a

cesearean

> > birth?

> > >

> > > So u have to start to now confirm, with that time 4 sectors of

> > Mercury and 2

> > > of Sa are there so that can give u idea of her nature, so again

> confirm

> > > that.

> > >

> > > That is why having many events is important so yes good

observation

> > on the

> > > time of 8:40 AM.

> > >

> > > If this girl does not have more spending trend then the lagna

might be

> > > different or even the date might be different.

> > >

> > > Conception happened in dec 2005 (approx) with delivery in sept

2007

> > so that

> > > falls in Mars antra. Power for Ma is less for 11th and 5th.

> > >

> > > So that is not matching but Mo can give. After marriage in antra

of

> > Venus,

> > > Sun antra came and Sun is weak for 11th so it might give or

might give

> > > miscarriage and Mo should give conception.

> > >

> > > So again some more rectification might be required.

> > >

> > > So like that.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > >

> > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.

> ca> ca>

> > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > [astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]

> > On Behalf Of harjeet

> > > bakshi

> > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 12:46 PM

> > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > Re: need advice-current

divorce

> > >

> > > Dear Ashji,

> > > if in navamsa virgo asc. arises.. then in navamsa me and venus

i.e.

> > > lord of 1st and 9th house is in 5:9. with 8:40 am.

> > > with 9:30 saggi asc. in navamsa again sun and jupiter in 5:9 in

rasi

> > > which are lord of 1st and 9th in navamsa.

> > > thanks/regards

> > > harjeet

> > >

> > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40>

com,

> > > " Ash " <kas@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Harjeet,

> > > >

> > > > How can 2nd lord aspect be like 6th lord. Something is

wrong

> > > somewhere. If

> > > > you find that post let me know.

> > > >

> > > > 6th house is most malefic and its 12th from B = 7.

> > > >

> > > > Harjeet, if you just take Marriage in Ve antra being most

powerful

> > > then even

> > > > with 8:30 AM u will still get marriage in Ve antra.

> > > >

> > > > Harjeet, please give the calculations here for computing

marriage in

> > > detail

> > > > using both times. This will give u good practice.

> > > >

> > > > I will look forward to proper calculations and that will

help all.

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > >

> > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.

> > ca> ca>

> > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca>

ca> ca>

> ca

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40>

com

> > > > [astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40>

com]

> > > On Behalf Of harjeet

> > > > bakshi

> > > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 11:59 AM

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40>

com

> > > > Re: need

advice-current

divorce

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ashji/Mishraji/Amir,

> > > > 9:30 why cant be considered close to correct birth time ?

> > > > marriage happened in the antra of E and most powerful

significator.

> > > > conception and birth of child occurs in antra of jupiter

having very

> > > > strong points for 5th,11th and 12th house.

> > > > jupiter is having least points for 7th house. and is also

lord

> of 2nd

> > > > house so more problems/tensions and bad result pertaining

to 7th

> > > > house. jupiter also aspects house A,E and D with -5 points.

> > > > so result pertaining to this house is bad during its antra.

> > > > somewhere in archive i think i read to look at 2nd lord's

aspect too

> > > > just like 6th house..please correct me if i am wrong.

> > > > again mars lord of 6th aspects house D and E.. and also

aspects lord

> > > > of C. and also has low points for 7th house.

> > > > so the antra of mars 2004 nov to 2005 nov must have created

problems

> > > > in married life ? if Amir can comment on this.?

> > > > next coming antra of saturn lord of D... early 2008 jan end

or

feb..

> > > > should bring better results ?

> > > > Amir can you provide some information about career of your

wife.. if

> > > > she dont work.. or work very hard but dont earn enough and

the

> > > > expenditure is too much from her side ?

> > > > thanks/regards

> > > > harjeet

> > > >

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > > <%40>

> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40>

com,

> > > > " harjeet bakshi "

> > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Mishraji,

> > > > > for husband(Amir) chart, venus is in pisces which is

dual sign.

> > > > > thanks/regards

> > > > > harjeet

> > > > >

> > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > > <%40>

> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40>

com,

> > > > " Ash " <kas@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Well explained with proper and concrete reasoning

based on

KAS.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > That is the reason why I mentioned in my last

line, that the

> birth

> > > > > time may

> > > > > > still be wrong. :-)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.

> > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca>

> > > ca> ca>

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> > > > On Behalf Of

> > > > > ramesh mishra

> > > > > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 2:12 AM

> > > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > > <%40>

> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40>

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> > > > > > RE: Re:

need

advice-current

> > > > divorce

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Ash, Anup, Harjeet and all,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The reasons for questioning the authenticity in

the birth

> time in

> > > > > respect of

> > > > > > his spouse are followings.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1.His wife married on 1 Jun 2002 during Ra / Ve.

Undoubtedly Ve

> > > is the

> > > > > > strongest significator for 7th house but there is

also

combined

> > > > > delay caused

> > > > > > by Sa and Ju both.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > This delay is overcome on 29 Aug 2004 during Ra/ Mo.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > As per the given time marriage could have taken

place in Ma

> antara

> > > > > who is SD

> > > > > > to Mo.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ma is also 6th lord.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2. This chart indicates harmony in married life

because

7th from

> > > > > lagna, Su

> > > > > > and Mo all are in 3:11 ratio.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 3.There is no blessings in the chart.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 4. Both the luminaries are aspected by Sa.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 5. Ve is under the affliction of Ra/Ke

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 6.Ma as 6th lord is in karak sthaan of 2nd and Mo

the karka

> > lord of

> > > > > 2nd is

> > > > > > in house B for 7th. The same Mo and Ma are in

4:10

> relationship in

> > > > > navamsa.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > This may indicate the separation and then

divorce.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > But this factor is absent in her hussband chart.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 7. 7th lord Ve is in dual sign indicating the

second marriage.

> > This

> > > > > is not

> > > > > > present in her husband chart.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I thought these may be the reason which does not

tally

with her

> > > > husband

> > > > > > chart.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > This may be due to wrong birth time.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > When you change the time as 9:36 AM then also

nothing changes

> > except

> > > > > > navamsa.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > You may correct me if I am wrong anywhere.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ash <kas@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Here if you cast the chart of the natives wife

with the

> given time

> > > > > of 8:30

> > > > > > am, marriage happens in the highest power planet

of Venus,

> and yet

> > > > > Ramesh

> > > > > > and I both questioned the time of birth.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > And it turns out that the birth certificate time

is of 9:32 AM

> > which

> > > > > is more

> > > > > > than 1 hour difference. Even still the birth time

might be

> wrong.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.

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> > > > On Behalf Of Ash

> > > > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 10:38 PM

> > > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > > <%40>

> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40>

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> > > > > > RE: Re:

need

advice-current

> > > > divorce

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Harjeet and All,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Here the native has blessing if this chart is

accurate. Most

> > of the

> > > > > points

> > > > > > are less in 7th house so results are showing.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Now, 6th lord is Saturn and its with 3 bindus in

10th

house. So

> > > > > from there

> > > > > > he aspects 7th i.e LoB, House E, House D, LoA and

LoC in

> Navamsa.

> > > > > So here

> > > > > > results are more severe.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Here for Quality, remove -5 points from 12th, 7th

and 4th

> and from

> > > > > Mercury

> > > > > > and sun as well for quality i.e. 5 points more to

offset bad

> > effects

> > > > > of 6th

> > > > > > lord.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > So only Moon is good for timing and quality.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > From lagna, sun, mo, ve and Ma all are in 4:10,

2:12, 4:10,

> > 3:11 and

> > > > > 2:12.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 in navamsa.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > As you have said, there is full delay of Sa for

27 years and

> then

> > > > of Ju

> > > > > > after that. So marriage can happen in Rahu who is

SD to

6th lord

> > > > > and 7th

> > > > > > lord Sa and Mo.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > After marriage, antra running have been of Ju who

has less

> > power in

> > > > > 7th, and

> > > > > > then after that Mercury who is 2nd lord and less

power in 7th

> > > house.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Child birth in Sa antra who is SD to Ve the

strongest

> significator

> > > > > for 5th

> > > > > > house and Sa is NSD to Ve.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Now the native is running Ketu antra and Ketu is

in House E

> > for 7th

> > > > > as B and

> > > > > > SD to Mo so again strong feelings are there and

at the same

> > time its

> > > > > SD to

> > > > > > Sa as well so again it can't give full happiness.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > After that again the antras are not strong for

7th house, sun

> > has 12

> > > > > points

> > > > > > but again its aspected by Sa so quality is still

poor.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My suggestion in this case would be to try to reconcile

with his

> > > > > wife and to

> > > > > > use the power of blessing. Try to let bygones be

bygones and

> start

> > > > > afresh

> > > > > > for the child.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The native will have to do a lot of adjustment.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Otherwise it's very difficult.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On another note, just recently I gave the

discussion that

> > Krushnaji

> > > > > gave on

> > > > > > accepting time as given. Here this gentleman's

wife's

chart is a

> > > > prime

> > > > > > candidate on how data can be wrong and using KAS

it can be

> pointed

> > > > out.

> > > > > > Ramesh also pointed out the improper time of his

wife and so

> > did I.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Actually this is based on concrete calculations

and just

> accepting

> > > > > the time

> > > > > > given as correct is not always proper. Unless one

takes proper

> > > > > effort to

> > > > > > tally events and makes sure that things are

fitting right or

> even

> > > > in the

> > > > > > ball park.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I will leave it to Ramesh to show and demonstrate

the

reason on

> > > why he

> > > > > > questioned the authenticity of birth time.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sometimes, people also change the dates and that

I have

> personally

> > > > > > experienced. In any case, one thing is clear,

that if the

birth

> > > > time is

> > > > > > accurate then all the events of life will fall in

place.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.

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> > > > On Behalf Of harjeet

> > > > > > bakshi

> > > > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 9:07 PM

> > > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > > <%40>

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> > > > > > Re: need

advice-current

> > divorce

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Amir,

> > > > > > i am just learning KAS...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > taking marriage 5 years ago.. might have happened

in the antra

> > > of rahu

> > > > > > samdhari to saturn lord of 6th and is situated in

6th house.

> > > > > > now antra of ketu samdhari to moon which is

having highest

> > point for

> > > > > > 7th house and situated in D... so chances of

marriage to

break(i

> > > dont

> > > > > > wish so.. but thats the law given in lesson)..

but again

rahu is

> > > also

> > > > > > samdhari to moon which has highest points for 7th

house.

> > > > > > Ashji please guide on this one..

> > > > > > i think the result of marriage is spoiled because

rahu being

> > > samdhari

> > > > > > to 6th lord saturn gave marriage.

> > > > > > also 6th lord saturn has sight on B,D and E so

marriage is

> bad...

> > > > > > result might be felt specially in the antra of

saturn... 2004

> > sep to

> > > > > > 2006 apr.

> > > > > > also during this antra gave bad results for house

4th and 7th

> > aswell

> > > > > > as 6th being in less points and 4th from sun and

mercury.

> > > > > > venus is in dual sign in both rasi(also aspecting

2nd house

> > with -5

> > > > > > points) and navamsa.. chances of 2 marriages.

> > > > > > sun in 7th house.

> > > > > > moon aspected by ketu in navamsa and with mars in

rasi.. might

> > cause

> > > > > > you to take hasty steps.

> > > > > > cant go more as out of time..

> > > > > > try to put efforts to pursue your goal. one point

> irrespective of

> > > > > > birth time in your wife's chart is that your rahu

and saturn

> > aspects

> > > > > > her mars based on sign overlapping. so there

would be strong

> > > > > > attraction between the couple... this might be

the positive

> > factor.

> > > > > > thanks/regards

> > > > > > harjeet

> > > > > >

> > > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > > > > <%40>

> > > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40>

com,

> > > > > > jay shanders

> > > > > > <phillyanyone@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Mr. ramesh

> > > > > > > how are you?/

> > > > > > > thank you so much for your reply

> > > > > > > as i am always gratful for all your help and

i dont mean

> to give

> > > > > > you a hard time its just i depend on you so much

for

advice and

> > > > > > prediction as to my current divorce proceeding

> > > > > > > my wife has told me her birth time is 8:30

AM but i have a

> > copy of

> > > > > > her indian birth certificate and on there it has

9:36 AM so i

> > > honestly

> > > > > > dont know which one is for real as i cant even

ask her right

> > > now. can

> > > > > > you use both and see what results you get. as

using the 8:30

> > AM you

> > > > > > have said that there is no divorce now or future,

does that

> still

> > > > > > hold. i just want to know that even though iam

going

through the

> > > > > > divorce proceeding should i really worry as will

it go through

> > > and us

> > > > > > divorce or will it Not happen and we stay

married. my birth

> > time is

> > > > > > accurate so do i have divorce and 2nd marriage in

my chart

> ???? i

> > > > > > just want to know over all if me and my wife will

have a long

> > > lasting

> > > > > > marriage ??

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > please help me in any way possible as you

are helping a

person

> > > > > > save his marriage and thus i have a daughter that

i worry so

> much

> > > > > > about. any further information as to my chart

will be

> > appreciated??

> > > > > > > thank you

> > > > > > > amir

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@>

wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear Amir,

> > > > > > > Please read my all mails sincerely.You will

find all

> > > > > > > your answers.

> > > > > > > I had asked you before also the correctness

of

> > > > > > > birthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked

you same

> > > > > > > data.

> > > > > > > Unless the birthtime is authenticated, all

efforts

> > > > > > > will be useless.

> > > > > > > This I have already pointed you out.I think

now you

> > > > > > > understand it.

> > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- jay shanders <phillyanyone@>

wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > > > > > > namaste

> > > > > > > > iam not confused as you have told me in

last email

> > > > > > > > that there is No divorce nor or future.

> > > > > > > > iam the same Amir that has been

emailing you for

> > > > > > > > consults and you have beening gicing me

> > > > > > > > predictions. so are you now saying that

we will

> > > > > > > > divorce now with likely chances of

reunion in feb???

> > > > > > > > so divorce will occur??? i think if

divorce occur

> > > > > > > > there will not be any chances of

reunion since i

> > > > > > > > cant stop my wife from divorcing then

why would she

> > > > > > > > reunite with me after it ??

> > > > > > > > thank you

> > > > > > > > amir

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@>

wrote:

> > > > > > > > Dear Amir,

> > > > > > > > Likely chances for re-union is there

sometime in

> > > > > > > > the month of Feb/2008.

> > > > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > phillyanyone <phillyanyone@>

wrote:

> > > > > > > > NAMASTE

> > > > > > > > Dear Guruji

> > > > > > > > Mr name is Amir and iam currently

separated from my

> > > > > > > > wife and daughter

> > > > > > > > since march 9 2007 and we are in the

divorce

> > > > > > > > proceeding status.

> > > > > > > > because of many problems between my

wife and her

> > > > > > > > controling parents

> > > > > > > > who have strong influence on her i

hastly filed for

> > > > > > > > divorce becase of

> > > > > > > > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after

couple of

> > > > > > > > weeks going by, i

> > > > > > > > wanted to reconcile with my wife and save

our

> > > > > > > > marriage and she too

> > > > > > > > wanted to come back and save our

amrriage but now

> > > > > > > > her parents are

> > > > > > > > totally against her coming back and

saving our

> > > > > > > > marriage. my wife does

> > > > > > > > not want to go aginst her parents and

come back to

> > > > > > > > me so she says

> > > > > > > > thats it better to divorce and not work

anything

> > > > > > > > else. i have tried

> > > > > > > > hard to convince her but nothing. we

have been

> > > > > > > > married for 5 years,

> > > > > > > > on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter

on september

> > > > > > > > 8, 2006. i have

> > > > > > > > been told by many astrologer that

neither have

> > > > > > > > divorce or 2nd

> > > > > > > > marriage so why iam I current in

divorce status and

> > > > > > > > will my marriage

> > > > > > > > survive this current divorce status and

me and my

> > > > > > > > wfie getting back

> > > > > > > > together. please advice as i need all

the advice and

> > > > > > > > help i can get

> > > > > > > > to save my marriage and input as to

what wil happen

> > > > > > > > as to my marriage-

> > > > > > > > divorce or us reuniting????

> > > > > > > > thank you

> > > > > > > > God bless

> > > > > > > > amir

> > > > > > > >

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Dear Harjeet, I AM BECOMING MORE CURIOUS NOW. I DNT THINK THIS CLD BE SO. PLZ WRITE ARCHIVE MAIL NUMBER IF YOU HAVE:) REGARDS ANUP harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi wrote: Dear Sir,ohh.. so cant we see navamsa lord and 9th navamsa lord and theirposition in rasi 5:9 ?jupiter and sun are in 8th and 12th house in rasi.thanks/regardsharjeet , "Ash" <kas wrote:>> How ?> > Ju and Sun are in 3rd house they are not in 5:9?> > Am I seeing something different ?> > > > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca> > _____ > > > On Behalf Of harjeet> bakshi> Wednesday September 19, 2007 2:46 PM> > Re: need advice-current divorce> > > > Dear Sir,> as per 9:30, saggitarius asc. in navamsa. now lord of navamsa and 9th> lord in navamsa jupiter and sun are 5:9 in rasi as stated in previous> mail.> thanks/regards> harjeet> > astrologyandtiminge> <%40>vents ,> "Ash" <kas@> wrote:> >> > Yes, but there is no blessing so why was there early marriage?> > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca>http://www.ashtro.> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> > > > _____ > > > > astrologyandtiminge> <%40>vents > > [astrologyandtiminge> <%40>vents ]> On Behalf Of harjeet> > bakshi> > Wednesday September 19, 2007 1:49 PM> > astrologyandtiminge> <%40>vents > > Subject:

Re: need advice-current divorce> > > > > > > > Yes sir,> > as per 9:30 i guess.. conception and birth both in jupiter antra.> > i hope next antra of saturn lord of D..comes out good for the native.> > thanks/regards> > harjeet> > > > astrologyandtiminge> > <%40>> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,> > "Ash" <kas@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Harjeet,> > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, with 8:40 AM lagna and 9th are in 5:9, with 9:30 Am, lagna> and 9th> > > lords are in 1:1 and not 5:9.> > > > > > Now also 6th lord is in 9th house but here its also LoE for 1st> > house so it>

> > might not spoil 9th house. So yes, 8:40 AM time can be considered.> > > > > > Then if delay is reduced then antra after 18 years is Me and Ke who> > are weak> > > for 7th and then Venus comes and so Venus can give marriage.> > > > > > Now in this case 11th points are less than 12th so we must find out> > if this> > > girl has more spending trend.> > > > > > Here Mars is aspecting mercury who is 11th lord and Rahu is also in> > 11th and> > > aspecting Mercury so again was there any miscarriage or a cesearean> > birth?> > > > > > So u have to start to now confirm, with that time 4 sectors of> > Mercury and 2> > > of Sa are there so that can give u idea of her nature, so again> confirm> > > that.> > > > > > That is why

having many events is important so yes good observation> > on the> > > time of 8:40 AM.> > > > > > If this girl does not have more spending trend then the lagnamight be> > > different or even the date might be different.> > > > > > Conception happened in dec 2005 (approx) with delivery in sept 2007> > so that> > > falls in Mars antra. Power for Ma is less for 11th and 5th.> > > > > > So that is not matching but Mo can give. After marriage in antra of> > Venus,> > > Sun antra came and Sun is weak for 11th so it might give ormight give> > > miscarriage and Mo should give conception.> > > > > > So again some more rectification might be required.> > > > > > So like that.> > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > >

> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.<http://www.ashtro.ca>> ca> ca>> http://www.ashtro.> > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> > > > > > _____ > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge> > <%40>> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com> > > [astrologyandtiminge> > <%40>> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]> > On Behalf Of harjeet> > >

bakshi> > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 12:46 PM> > > astrologyandtiminge> > <%40>> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com> > > Re: need advice-current divorce> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ashji,> > > if in navamsa virgo asc. arises.. then in navamsa me and venus i.e.> > > lord of 1st and 9th house is in 5:9. with 8:40 am.> > > with 9:30 saggi asc. in navamsa again sun and jupiter in 5:9 in rasi> > > which are lord of 1st and 9th in navamsa.> > > thanks/regards> > > harjeet> > > > > > astrologyandtiminge> > > <%40>> >

vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,> > > "Ash" <kas@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Harjeet,> > > > > > > > How can 2nd lord aspect be like 6th lord. Something is wrong> > > somewhere. If> > > > you find that post let me know. > > > > > > > > 6th house is most malefic and its 12th from B = 7.> > > > > > > > Harjeet, if you just take Marriage in Ve antra being most powerful> > > then even> > > > with 8:30 AM u will still get marriage in Ve antra.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Harjeet, please give the calculations here for computingmarriage in> > > detail> > > > using both times. This will give u good practice.> > > > >

> > > I will look forward to proper calculations and that will help all.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca>> > ca> ca>> > http://www.ashtro.> > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca>ca> ca>> ca> > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge> > >

<%40>> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com> > > > [astrologyandtiminge> > > <%40>> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]> > > On Behalf Of harjeet> > > > bakshi> > > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 11:59 AM> > > > astrologyandtiminge> > > <%40>> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com> > > > Re: need advice-currentdivorce> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ashji/Mishraji/Amir,> >

> > 9:30 why cant be considered close to correct birth time ?> > > > marriage happened in the antra of E and most powerfulsignificator.> > > > conception and birth of child occurs in antra of jupiterhaving very> > > > strong points for 5th,11th and 12th house.> > > > jupiter is having least points for 7th house. and is also lord> of 2nd> > > > house so more problems/tensions and bad result pertaining to 7th> > > > house. jupiter also aspects house A,E and D with -5 points.> > > > so result pertaining to this house is bad during its antra.> > > > somewhere in archive i think i read to look at 2nd lord'saspect too> > > > just like 6th house..please correct me if i am wrong.> > > > again mars lord of 6th aspects house D and E.. and alsoaspects lord> > > > of C. and also has

low points for 7th house.> > > > so the antra of mars 2004 nov to 2005 nov must have createdproblems> > > > in married life ? if Amir can comment on this.?> > > > next coming antra of saturn lord of D... early 2008 jan end orfeb..> > > > should bring better results ?> > > > Amir can you provide some information about career of yourwife.. if> > > > she dont work.. or work very hard but dont earn enough and the> > > > expenditure is too much from her side ?> > > > thanks/regards> > > > harjeet> > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge> > > > <%40>> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,> > > > "harjeet bakshi"> > > >

<harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Mishraji,> > > > > for husband(Amir) chart, venus is in pisces which is dual sign.> > > > > thanks/regards> > > > > harjeet> > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge> > > > <%40>> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,> > > > "Ash" <kas@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Ramesh,> > > > > > > > > > > > Well explained with proper and concrete reasoning based onKAS.> > > > > > > > > > > > That is the reason why I mentioned in my last line, that the> birth> > > > > time

may> > > > > > still be wrong. :-)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.> > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca>> > > ca> ca>> > > http://www.ashtro.> > > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.> <http://www.ashtro.ca>

ca>> ca> ca>> > ca> > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge> > > > <%40>> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com> > > > > > [astrologyandtiminge> > > > <%40>> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]> > > > On Behalf Of> > > > > ramesh mishra> > > > > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 2:12 AM> > > > > > astrologyandtiminge> > > > <%40>> > >

vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com> > > > > > RE: Re: needadvice-current> > > > divorce> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, Anup, Harjeet and all,> > > > > > > > > > > > The reasons for questioning the authenticity in the birth> time in> > > > > respect of> > > > > > his spouse are followings.> > > > > > > > > > > > 1.His wife married on 1 Jun 2002 during Ra / Ve.Undoubtedly Ve> > > is the> > > > > > strongest significator for 7th house but there is alsocombined> > > > > delay caused> > > > > > by Sa and Ju both.> > >

> > > > > > > > > This delay is overcome on 29 Aug 2004 during Ra/ Mo.> > > > > > > > > > > > As per the given time marriage could have taken place in Ma> antara> > > > > who is SD> > > > > > to Mo.> > > > > > > > > > > > Ma is also 6th lord.> > > > > > > > > > > > 2. This chart indicates harmony in married life because7th from> > > > > lagna, Su> > > > > > and Mo all are in 3:11 ratio.> > > > > > > > > > > > 3.There is no blessings in the chart.> > > > > > > > > > > > 4. Both the luminaries are aspected by Sa.> > > > > > > > > > > > 5. Ve is under the affliction of Ra/Ke > > >

> > > > > > > > > 6.Ma as 6th lord is in karak sthaan of 2nd and Mo the karka> > lord of> > > > > 2nd is> > > > > > in house B for 7th. The same Mo and Ma are in 4:10> relationship in> > > > > navamsa.> > > > > > > > > > > > This may indicate the separation and then divorce.> > > > > > > > > > > > But this factor is absent in her hussband chart.> > > > > > > > > > > > 7. 7th lord Ve is in dual sign indicating the second marriage.> > This> > > > > is not> > > > > > present in her husband chart.> > > > > > > > > > > > I thought these may be the reason which does not tallywith her> > > > husband> > > > > >

chart.> > > > > > > > > > > > This may be due to wrong birth time.> > > > > > > > > > > > When you change the time as 9:36 AM then also nothing changes> > except> > > > > > navamsa.> > > > > > > > > > > > You may correct me if I am wrong anywhere.> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > > > > > > > > Ash <kas@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > Here if you cast the chart of the natives wife with the> given time> > > > > of 8:30> > > > > > am, marriage happens in the highest power planet of Venus,> and yet> > > > >

Ramesh> > > > > > and I both questioned the time of birth.> > > > > > > > > > > > And it turns out that the birth certificate time is of 9:32 AM> > which> > > > > is more> > > > > > than 1 hour difference. Even still the birth time might be> wrong.> > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.> > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/>ca/> ca/>> > > ca/> ca/>> > > > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.> > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> ca> ca> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge> > > > <%40>> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com> > > > > > [astrologyandtiminge> > > > <%40>> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]> > > > On Behalf Of

Ash> > > > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 10:38 PM> > > > > > astrologyandtiminge> > > > <%40>> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com> > > > > > RE: Re: needadvice-current> > > > divorce> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Harjeet and All, > > > > > > > > > > > > Here the native has blessing if this chart is accurate. Most> > of the> > > > > points> > > > > > are less in 7th house so results are showing.> > > > > > > > > > > > Now, 6th lord is Saturn and its with 3 bindus in 10thhouse. So> > > > > from

there> > > > > > he aspects 7th i.e LoB, House E, House D, LoA and LoC in> Navamsa. > > > > > So here> > > > > > results are more severe. > > > > > > > > > > > > Here for Quality, remove -5 points from 12th, 7th and 4th> and from> > > > > Mercury> > > > > > and sun as well for quality i.e. 5 points more to offset bad> > effects> > > > > of 6th> > > > > > lord. > > > > > > > > > > > > So only Moon is good for timing and quality. > > > > > > > > > > > > From lagna, sun, mo, ve and Ma all are in 4:10, 2:12, 4:10,> > 3:11 and> > > > > 2:12. > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 in navamsa.

> > > > > > > > > > > > As you have said, there is full delay of Sa for 27 years and> then> > > > of Ju> > > > > > after that. So marriage can happen in Rahu who is SD to6th lord> > > > > and 7th> > > > > > lord Sa and Mo. > > > > > > > > > > > > After marriage, antra running have been of Ju who has less> > power in> > > > > 7th, and> > > > > > then after that Mercury who is 2nd lord and less power in 7th> > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > Child birth in Sa antra who is SD to Ve the strongest> significator> > > > > for 5th> > > > > > house and Sa is NSD to Ve.> > > > > > > > > > > > Now the native is

running Ketu antra and Ketu is in House E> > for 7th> > > > > as B and> > > > > > SD to Mo so again strong feelings are there and at the same> > time its> > > > > SD to> > > > > > Sa as well so again it can't give full happiness.> > > > > > > > > > > > After that again the antras are not strong for 7th house, sun> > has 12> > > > > points> > > > > > but again its aspected by Sa so quality is still poor. > > > > > > > > > > > > My suggestion in this case would be to try to reconcilewith his> > > > > wife and to> > > > > > use the power of blessing. Try to let bygones be bygones and> start> > > > > afresh> > > > > > for the child.> >

> > > > > > > > > > The native will have to do a lot of adjustment.> > > > > > > > > > > > Otherwise it's very difficult.> > > > > > > > > > > > On another note, just recently I gave the discussion that> > Krushnaji> > > > > gave on> > > > > > accepting time as given. Here this gentleman's wife'schart is a> > > > prime> > > > > > candidate on how data can be wrong and using KAS it can be> pointed> > > > out.> > > > > > Ramesh also pointed out the improper time of his wife and so> > did I. > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually this is based on concrete calculations and just> accepting> > > > > the time> > > > > > given as

correct is not always proper. Unless one takes proper> > > > > effort to> > > > > > tally events and makes sure that things are fitting right or> even> > > > in the> > > > > > ball park.> > > > > > > > > > > > I will leave it to Ramesh to show and demonstrate thereason on> > > why he> > > > > > questioned the authenticity of birth time.> > > > > > > > > > > > Sometimes, people also change the dates and that I have> personally> > > > > > experienced. In any case, one thing is clear, that if thebirth> > > > time is> > > > > > accurate then all the events of life will fall in place. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.> > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/>ca/> ca/>> > > ca/> ca/>> > > > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.> > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> ca> ca> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

astrologyandtiminge> > > > <%40>> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com> > > > > > [astrologyandtiminge> > > > <%40>> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]> > > > On Behalf Of harjeet> > > > > > bakshi> > > > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 9:07 PM> > > > > > astrologyandtiminge> > > > <%40>> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com> > > > > > Re: need advice-current> > divorce>

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Amir,> > > > > > i am just learning KAS...> > > > > > > > > > > > taking marriage 5 years ago.. might have happened in the antra> > > of rahu> > > > > > samdhari to saturn lord of 6th and is situated in 6th house.> > > > > > now antra of ketu samdhari to moon which is having highest> > point for> > > > > > 7th house and situated in D... so chances of marriage tobreak(i> > > dont> > > > > > wish so.. but thats the law given in lesson).. but againrahu is> > > also> > > > > > samdhari to moon which has highest points for 7th house.> > > > > > Ashji please guide on this one..> > > > > > i think the result of marriage is spoiled because rahu

being> > > samdhari> > > > > > to 6th lord saturn gave marriage.> > > > > > also 6th lord saturn has sight on B,D and E so marriage is> bad...> > > > > > result might be felt specially in the antra of saturn... 2004> > sep to> > > > > > 2006 apr.> > > > > > also during this antra gave bad results for house 4th and 7th> > aswell> > > > > > as 6th being in less points and 4th from sun and mercury.> > > > > > venus is in dual sign in both rasi(also aspecting 2nd house> > with -5> > > > > > points) and navamsa.. chances of 2 marriages.> > > > > > sun in 7th house.> > > > > > moon aspected by ketu in navamsa and with mars in rasi.. might> > cause> > > > > > you to take hasty

steps.> > > > > > cant go more as out of time..> > > > > > try to put efforts to pursue your goal. one point> irrespective of> > > > > > birth time in your wife's chart is that your rahu and saturn> > aspects> > > > > > her mars based on sign overlapping. so there would be strong> > > > > > attraction between the couple... this might be the positive> > factor.> > > > > > thanks/regards> > > > > > harjeet> > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge> > > > > > <%40>> > > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,> > > > > > jay shanders> > > > > >

<phillyanyone@> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Mr. ramesh> > > > > > > how are you?/> > > > > > > thank you so much for your reply> > > > > > > as i am always gratful for all your help and i dont mean> to give> > > > > > you a hard time its just i depend on you so much foradvice and> > > > > > prediction as to my current divorce proceeding> > > > > > > my wife has told me her birth time is 8:30 AM but i have a> > copy of> > > > > > her indian birth certificate and on there it has 9:36 AM so i> > > honestly> > > > > > dont know which one is for real as i cant even ask her right> > > now. can> > > > > > you use both and see what results you get. as using

the 8:30> > AM you> > > > > > have said that there is no divorce now or future, does that> still> > > > > > hold. i just want to know that even though iam goingthrough the> > > > > > divorce proceeding should i really worry as will it go through> > > and us> > > > > > divorce or will it Not happen and we stay married. my birth> > time is> > > > > > accurate so do i have divorce and 2nd marriage in my chart> ???? i> > > > > > just want to know over all if me and my wife will have a long> > > lasting> > > > > > marriage ??> > > > > > > > > > > > > > please help me in any way possible as you are helping aperson> > > > > > save his marriage and thus i have a daughter that i worry

so> much> > > > > > about. any further information as to my chart will be> > appreciated??> > > > > > > thank you> > > > > > > amir> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:> > > > > > > Dear Amir,> > > > > > > Please read my all mails sincerely.You will find all> > > > > > > your answers.> > > > > > > I had asked you before also the correctness of> > > > > > > birthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked you same> > > > > > > data.> > > > > > > Unless the birthtime is authenticated, all efforts> > > > > > > will be useless.> > > > > > > This I have already pointed you out.I

think now you> > > > > > > understand it.> > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- jay shanders <phillyanyone@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh,> > > > > > > > namaste> > > > > > > > iam not confused as you have told me in last email> > > > > > > > that there is No divorce nor or future.> > > > > > > > iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for> > > > > > > > consults and you have beening gicing me > > > > > > > > predictions. so are you now saying that we will> > > > > > > > divorce now with likely chances of reunion in feb???> > > > > > > > so divorce

will occur??? i think if divorce occur> > > > > > > > there will not be any chances of reunion since i> > > > > > > > cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would she> > > > > > > > reunite with me after it ??> > > > > > > > thank you> > > > > > > > amir> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:> > > > > > > > Dear Amir,> > > > > > > > Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in> > > > > > > > the month of Feb/2008.> > > > > > > > Thanks and regards.> > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > phillyanyone

<phillyanyone@> wrote:> > > > > > > > NAMASTE> > > > > > > > Dear Guruji> > > > > > > > Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated from my> > > > > > > > wife and daughter > > > > > > > > since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce> > > > > > > > proceeding status. > > > > > > > > because of many problems between my wife and her> > > > > > > > controling parents > > > > > > > > who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for> > > > > > > > divorce becase of > > > > > > > > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of> > > > > > > > weeks going by, i > > > > > > > > wanted to reconcile with my

wife and save our> > > > > > > > marriage and she too > > > > > > > > wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now> > > > > > > > her parents are > > > > > > > > totally against her coming back and saving our> > > > > > > > marriage. my wife does > > > > > > > > not want to go aginst her parents and come back to> > > > > > > > me so she says > > > > > > > > thats it better to divorce and not work anything> > > > > > > > else. i have tried > > > > > > > > hard to convince her but nothing. we have been> > > > > > > > married for 5 years, > > > > > > > > on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on september> > > > > >

> > 8, 2006. i have > > > > > > > > been told by many astrologer that neither have> > > > > > > > divorce or 2nd > > > > > > > > marriage so why iam I current in divorce status and> > > > > > > > will my marriage > > > > > > > > survive this current divorce status and me and my> > > > > > > > wfie getting back > > > > > > > > together. please advice as i need all the advice and> > > > > > > > help i can get > > > > > > > > to save my marriage and input as to what wil happen> > > > > > > > as to my marriage-> > > > > > > > divorce or us reuniting???? > > > > > > > > thank you> > > > > > > > God

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September 19, 2007

Thanks for that Ashji.

i thought we can do it either way.

anyway.. so for conception cant happen in the planet having low points

even if there is blessing in the chart ?

thanks/regards

harjeet

P.S.

my friend from ahmedabad whose chart i am working on... if it needs

rectification got a baby girl on 17th this month. his conception also

occured in antra of mars which had very low points for 5th and 12th house.

so his birth time seems to be pretty vague too..

, " Ash " <kas wrote:

>

> No Harjeet you can't do that.

>

> Only Lagna and 9th lord of lagna we check in Rasi and then Navamsa.

Then we

> check Navamsa lagna and 9th lord in NAVAMSA ONLY.

>

> Cheers !!!

>

> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

> _____

>

> On Behalf Of harjeet

> bakshi

> Wednesday September 19, 2007 3:52 PM

>

> Re: need advice-current divorce

>

> Dear Sir,

> ohh.. so cant we see navamsa lord and 9th navamsa lord and their

> position in rasi 5:9 ?

> jupiter and sun are in 8th and 12th house in rasi.

> thanks/regards

> harjeet

>

> astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents ,

> " Ash " <kas@> wrote:

> >

> > How ?

> >

> > Ju and Sun are in 3rd house they are not in 5:9?

> >

> > Am I seeing something different ?

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> >

> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca>

> >

> > _____

> >

> > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents

> > [astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents ]

> On Behalf Of harjeet

> > bakshi

> > Wednesday September 19, 2007 2:46 PM

> > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents

> > Re: need advice-current divorce

> >

> > Dear Sir,

> > as per 9:30, saggitarius asc. in navamsa. now lord of navamsa and 9th

> > lord in navamsa jupiter and sun are 5:9 in rasi as stated in previous

> > mail.

> > thanks/regards

> > harjeet

> >

> > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,

> > " Ash " <kas@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Yes, but there is no blessing so why was there early marriage?

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > >

> > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

> ca> ca>

> > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > [astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]

> > On Behalf Of harjeet

> > > bakshi

> > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 1:49 PM

> > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > Re: need advice-current divorce

> > >

> > > Yes sir,

> > > as per 9:30 i guess.. conception and birth both in jupiter antra.

> > > i hope next antra of saturn lord of D..comes out good for the

native.

> > > thanks/regards

> > > harjeet

> > >

> > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,

> > > " Ash " <kas@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Harjeet,

> > > >

> > > > Yes, with 8:40 AM lagna and 9th are in 5:9, with 9:30 Am, lagna

> > and 9th

> > > > lords are in 1:1 and not 5:9.

> > > >

> > > > Now also 6th lord is in 9th house but here its also LoE for 1st

> > > house so it

> > > > might not spoil 9th house. So yes, 8:40 AM time can be considered.

> > > >

> > > > Then if delay is reduced then antra after 18 years is Me and

Ke who

> > > are weak

> > > > for 7th and then Venus comes and so Venus can give marriage.

> > > >

> > > > Now in this case 11th points are less than 12th so we must

find out

> > > if this

> > > > girl has more spending trend.

> > > >

> > > > Here Mars is aspecting mercury who is 11th lord and Rahu is

also in

> > > 11th and

> > > > aspecting Mercury so again was there any miscarriage or a

cesearean

> > > birth?

> > > >

> > > > So u have to start to now confirm, with that time 4 sectors of

> > > Mercury and 2

> > > > of Sa are there so that can give u idea of her nature, so again

> > confirm

> > > > that.

> > > >

> > > > That is why having many events is important so yes good

observation

> > > on the

> > > > time of 8:40 AM.

> > > >

> > > > If this girl does not have more spending trend then the lagna

> might be

> > > > different or even the date might be different.

> > > >

> > > > Conception happened in dec 2005 (approx) with delivery in sept

2007

> > > so that

> > > > falls in Mars antra. Power for Ma is less for 11th and 5th.

> > > >

> > > > So that is not matching but Mo can give. After marriage in

antra of

> > > Venus,

> > > > Sun antra came and Sun is weak for 11th so it might give or

> might give

> > > > miscarriage and Mo should give conception.

> > > >

> > > > So again some more rectification might be required.

> > > >

> > > > So like that.

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > >

> > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

> > ca> ca>

> > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca>

ca> ca>

> ca

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > [astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]

> > > On Behalf Of harjeet

> > > > bakshi

> > > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 12:46 PM

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > Re: need advice-current

divorce

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ashji,

> > > > if in navamsa virgo asc. arises.. then in navamsa me and venus

i.e.

> > > > lord of 1st and 9th house is in 5:9. with 8:40 am.

> > > > with 9:30 saggi asc. in navamsa again sun and jupiter in 5:9

in rasi

> > > > which are lord of 1st and 9th in navamsa.

> > > > thanks/regards

> > > > harjeet

> > > >

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > > <%40>

> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,

> > > > " Ash " <kas@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Harjeet,

> > > > >

> > > > > How can 2nd lord aspect be like 6th lord. Something is wrong

> > > > somewhere. If

> > > > > you find that post let me know.

> > > > >

> > > > > 6th house is most malefic and its 12th from B = 7.

> > > > >

> > > > > Harjeet, if you just take Marriage in Ve antra being most

powerful

> > > > then even

> > > > > with 8:30 AM u will still get marriage in Ve antra.

> > > > >

> > > > > Harjeet, please give the calculations here for computing

> marriage in

> > > > detail

> > > > > using both times. This will give u good practice.

> > > > >

> > > > > I will look forward to proper calculations and that will

help all.

> > > > >

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > >

> > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

> > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca>

> > > ca> ca>

> <http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html/>

> > > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca>

> ca> ca>

> > ca

> > > > >

> > > > > _____

> > > > >

> > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > > <%40>

> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > > [astrologyandtiminge

> > > > <%40>

> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]

> > > > On Behalf Of harjeet

> > > > > bakshi

> > > > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 11:59 AM

> > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > > <%40>

> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > > Re: need advice-current

> divorce

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Ashji/Mishraji/Amir,

> > > > > 9:30 why cant be considered close to correct birth time ?

> > > > > marriage happened in the antra of E and most powerful

> significator.

> > > > > conception and birth of child occurs in antra of jupiter

> having very

> > > > > strong points for 5th,11th and 12th house.

> > > > > jupiter is having least points for 7th house. and is also lord

> > of 2nd

> > > > > house so more problems/tensions and bad result pertaining to 7th

> > > > > house. jupiter also aspects house A,E and D with -5 points.

> > > > > so result pertaining to this house is bad during its antra.

> > > > > somewhere in archive i think i read to look at 2nd lord's

> aspect too

> > > > > just like 6th house..please correct me if i am wrong.

> > > > > again mars lord of 6th aspects house D and E.. and also

> aspects lord

> > > > > of C. and also has low points for 7th house.

> > > > > so the antra of mars 2004 nov to 2005 nov must have created

> problems

> > > > > in married life ? if Amir can comment on this.?

> > > > > next coming antra of saturn lord of D... early 2008 jan end or

> feb..

> > > > > should bring better results ?

> > > > > Amir can you provide some information about career of your

> wife.. if

> > > > > she dont work.. or work very hard but dont earn enough and the

> > > > > expenditure is too much from her side ?

> > > > > thanks/regards

> > > > > harjeet

> > > > >

> > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > > > <%40>

> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,

> > > > > " harjeet bakshi "

> > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Mishraji,

> > > > > > for husband(Amir) chart, venus is in pisces which is dual

sign.

> > > > > > thanks/regards

> > > > > > harjeet

> > > > > >

> > > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > > > <%40>

> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,

> > > > > " Ash " <kas@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Well explained with proper and concrete reasoning based on

> KAS.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > That is the reason why I mentioned in my last line, that the

> > birth

> > > > > > time may

> > > > > > > still be wrong. :-)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

> > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

> <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> ca>

> > > > ca> ca>

> > > > http://www.ashtro.

> > > > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

> > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca>

> > ca> ca>

> > > ca

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > _____

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > > > <%40>

> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > > > > [astrologyandtiminge

> > > > > <%40>

> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]

> > > > > On Behalf Of

> > > > > > ramesh mishra

> > > > > > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 2:12 AM

> > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > > > <%40>

> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > > > > RE: Re: need

> advice-current

> > > > > divorce

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Ash, Anup, Harjeet and all,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The reasons for questioning the authenticity in the birth

> > time in

> > > > > > respect of

> > > > > > > his spouse are followings.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1.His wife married on 1 Jun 2002 during Ra / Ve.

> Undoubtedly Ve

> > > > is the

> > > > > > > strongest significator for 7th house but there is also

> combined

> > > > > > delay caused

> > > > > > > by Sa and Ju both.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > This delay is overcome on 29 Aug 2004 during Ra/ Mo.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > As per the given time marriage could have taken place in Ma

> > antara

> > > > > > who is SD

> > > > > > > to Mo.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ma is also 6th lord.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 2. This chart indicates harmony in married life because

> 7th from

> > > > > > lagna, Su

> > > > > > > and Mo all are in 3:11 ratio.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 3.There is no blessings in the chart.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 4. Both the luminaries are aspected by Sa.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 5. Ve is under the affliction of Ra/Ke

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 6.Ma as 6th lord is in karak sthaan of 2nd and Mo the karka

> > > lord of

> > > > > > 2nd is

> > > > > > > in house B for 7th. The same Mo and Ma are in 4:10

> > relationship in

> > > > > > navamsa.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > This may indicate the separation and then divorce.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > But this factor is absent in her hussband chart.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 7. 7th lord Ve is in dual sign indicating the second

marriage.

> > > This

> > > > > > is not

> > > > > > > present in her husband chart.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I thought these may be the reason which does not tally

> with her

> > > > > husband

> > > > > > > chart.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > This may be due to wrong birth time.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > When you change the time as 9:36 AM then also nothing

changes

> > > except

> > > > > > > navamsa.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > You may correct me if I am wrong anywhere.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ash <kas@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Here if you cast the chart of the natives wife with the

> > given time

> > > > > > of 8:30

> > > > > > > am, marriage happens in the highest power planet of Venus,

> > and yet

> > > > > > Ramesh

> > > > > > > and I both questioned the time of birth.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > And it turns out that the birth certificate time is of

9:32 AM

> > > which

> > > > > > is more

> > > > > > > than 1 hour difference. Even still the birth time might be

> > wrong.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

> > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca/>

> ca/> ca/>

> > > > ca/> ca/>

> > > > > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

> > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca>

ca> ca>

> ca> ca> ca

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > _____

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > > > <%40>

> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > > > > [astrologyandtiminge

> > > > > <%40>

> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]

> > > > > On Behalf Of Ash

> > > > > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 10:38 PM

> > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > > > <%40>

> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > > > > RE: Re: need

> advice-current

> > > > > divorce

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Harjeet and All,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Here the native has blessing if this chart is accurate. Most

> > > of the

> > > > > > points

> > > > > > > are less in 7th house so results are showing.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Now, 6th lord is Saturn and its with 3 bindus in 10th

> house. So

> > > > > > from there

> > > > > > > he aspects 7th i.e LoB, House E, House D, LoA and LoC in

> > Navamsa.

> > > > > > So here

> > > > > > > results are more severe.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Here for Quality, remove -5 points from 12th, 7th and 4th

> > and from

> > > > > > Mercury

> > > > > > > and sun as well for quality i.e. 5 points more to offset bad

> > > effects

> > > > > > of 6th

> > > > > > > lord.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > So only Moon is good for timing and quality.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > From lagna, sun, mo, ve and Ma all are in 4:10, 2:12, 4:10,

> > > 3:11 and

> > > > > > 2:12.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 in navamsa.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > As you have said, there is full delay of Sa for 27 years and

> > then

> > > > > of Ju

> > > > > > > after that. So marriage can happen in Rahu who is SD to

> 6th lord

> > > > > > and 7th

> > > > > > > lord Sa and Mo.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > After marriage, antra running have been of Ju who has less

> > > power in

> > > > > > 7th, and

> > > > > > > then after that Mercury who is 2nd lord and less power

in 7th

> > > > house.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Child birth in Sa antra who is SD to Ve the strongest

> > significator

> > > > > > for 5th

> > > > > > > house and Sa is NSD to Ve.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Now the native is running Ketu antra and Ketu is in House E

> > > for 7th

> > > > > > as B and

> > > > > > > SD to Mo so again strong feelings are there and at the same

> > > time its

> > > > > > SD to

> > > > > > > Sa as well so again it can't give full happiness.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > After that again the antras are not strong for 7th

house, sun

> > > has 12

> > > > > > points

> > > > > > > but again its aspected by Sa so quality is still poor.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > My suggestion in this case would be to try to reconcile

> with his

> > > > > > wife and to

> > > > > > > use the power of blessing. Try to let bygones be bygones and

> > start

> > > > > > afresh

> > > > > > > for the child.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The native will have to do a lot of adjustment.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Otherwise it's very difficult.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > On another note, just recently I gave the discussion that

> > > Krushnaji

> > > > > > gave on

> > > > > > > accepting time as given. Here this gentleman's wife's

> chart is a

> > > > > prime

> > > > > > > candidate on how data can be wrong and using KAS it can be

> > pointed

> > > > > out.

> > > > > > > Ramesh also pointed out the improper time of his wife and so

> > > did I.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Actually this is based on concrete calculations and just

> > accepting

> > > > > > the time

> > > > > > > given as correct is not always proper. Unless one takes

proper

> > > > > > effort to

> > > > > > > tally events and makes sure that things are fitting right or

> > even

> > > > > in the

> > > > > > > ball park.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I will leave it to Ramesh to show and demonstrate the

> reason on

> > > > why he

> > > > > > > questioned the authenticity of birth time.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sometimes, people also change the dates and that I have

> > personally

> > > > > > > experienced. In any case, one thing is clear, that if the

> birth

> > > > > time is

> > > > > > > accurate then all the events of life will fall in place.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

> > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

> <http://www.ashtro.ca/> ca/>

> ca/> ca/>

> > > > ca/> ca/>

> > > > > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

> > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca>

ca> ca>

> ca> ca> ca

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > _____

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > > > <%40>

> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > > > > [astrologyandtiminge

> > > > > <%40>

> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]

> > > > > On Behalf Of harjeet

> > > > > > > bakshi

> > > > > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 9:07 PM

> > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > > > <%40>

> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > > > > Re: need advice-current

> > > divorce

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Amir,

> > > > > > > i am just learning KAS...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > taking marriage 5 years ago.. might have happened in the

antra

> > > > of rahu

> > > > > > > samdhari to saturn lord of 6th and is situated in 6th house.

> > > > > > > now antra of ketu samdhari to moon which is having highest

> > > point for

> > > > > > > 7th house and situated in D... so chances of marriage to

> break(i

> > > > dont

> > > > > > > wish so.. but thats the law given in lesson).. but again

> rahu is

> > > > also

> > > > > > > samdhari to moon which has highest points for 7th house.

> > > > > > > Ashji please guide on this one..

> > > > > > > i think the result of marriage is spoiled because rahu being

> > > > samdhari

> > > > > > > to 6th lord saturn gave marriage.

> > > > > > > also 6th lord saturn has sight on B,D and E so marriage is

> > bad...

> > > > > > > result might be felt specially in the antra of saturn...

2004

> > > sep to

> > > > > > > 2006 apr.

> > > > > > > also during this antra gave bad results for house 4th

and 7th

> > > aswell

> > > > > > > as 6th being in less points and 4th from sun and mercury.

> > > > > > > venus is in dual sign in both rasi(also aspecting 2nd house

> > > with -5

> > > > > > > points) and navamsa.. chances of 2 marriages.

> > > > > > > sun in 7th house.

> > > > > > > moon aspected by ketu in navamsa and with mars in rasi..

might

> > > cause

> > > > > > > you to take hasty steps.

> > > > > > > cant go more as out of time..

> > > > > > > try to put efforts to pursue your goal. one point

> > irrespective of

> > > > > > > birth time in your wife's chart is that your rahu and saturn

> > > aspects

> > > > > > > her mars based on sign overlapping. so there would be strong

> > > > > > > attraction between the couple... this might be the positive

> > > factor.

> > > > > > > thanks/regards

> > > > > > > harjeet

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > > > > > <%40>

> > > > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,

> > > > > > > jay shanders

> > > > > > > <phillyanyone@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Mr. ramesh

> > > > > > > > how are you?/

> > > > > > > > thank you so much for your reply

> > > > > > > > as i am always gratful for all your help and i dont mean

> > to give

> > > > > > > you a hard time its just i depend on you so much for

> advice and

> > > > > > > prediction as to my current divorce proceeding

> > > > > > > > my wife has told me her birth time is 8:30 AM but i have a

> > > copy of

> > > > > > > her indian birth certificate and on there it has 9:36 AM

so i

> > > > honestly

> > > > > > > dont know which one is for real as i cant even ask her right

> > > > now. can

> > > > > > > you use both and see what results you get. as using the 8:30

> > > AM you

> > > > > > > have said that there is no divorce now or future, does that

> > still

> > > > > > > hold. i just want to know that even though iam going

> through the

> > > > > > > divorce proceeding should i really worry as will it go

through

> > > > and us

> > > > > > > divorce or will it Not happen and we stay married. my birth

> > > time is

> > > > > > > accurate so do i have divorce and 2nd marriage in my chart

> > ???? i

> > > > > > > just want to know over all if me and my wife will have a

long

> > > > lasting

> > > > > > > marriage ??

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > please help me in any way possible as you are helping a

> person

> > > > > > > save his marriage and thus i have a daughter that i worry so

> > much

> > > > > > > about. any further information as to my chart will be

> > > appreciated??

> > > > > > > > thank you

> > > > > > > > amir

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > Dear Amir,

> > > > > > > > Please read my all mails sincerely.You will find all

> > > > > > > > your answers.

> > > > > > > > I had asked you before also the correctness of

> > > > > > > > birthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked you same

> > > > > > > > data.

> > > > > > > > Unless the birthtime is authenticated, all efforts

> > > > > > > > will be useless.

> > > > > > > > This I have already pointed you out.I think now you

> > > > > > > > understand it.

> > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- jay shanders <phillyanyone@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > > > > > > > namaste

> > > > > > > > > iam not confused as you have told me in last email

> > > > > > > > > that there is No divorce nor or future.

> > > > > > > > > iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for

> > > > > > > > > consults and you have beening gicing me

> > > > > > > > > predictions. so are you now saying that we will

> > > > > > > > > divorce now with likely chances of reunion in feb???

> > > > > > > > > so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce occur

> > > > > > > > > there will not be any chances of reunion since i

> > > > > > > > > cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would she

> > > > > > > > > reunite with me after it ??

> > > > > > > > > thank you

> > > > > > > > > amir

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > Dear Amir,

> > > > > > > > > Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in

> > > > > > > > > the month of Feb/2008.

> > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > phillyanyone <phillyanyone@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > NAMASTE

> > > > > > > > > Dear Guruji

> > > > > > > > > Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated from my

> > > > > > > > > wife and daughter

> > > > > > > > > since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce

> > > > > > > > > proceeding status.

> > > > > > > > > because of many problems between my wife and her

> > > > > > > > > controling parents

> > > > > > > > > who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for

> > > > > > > > > divorce becase of

> > > > > > > > > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of

> > > > > > > > > weeks going by, i

> > > > > > > > > wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our

> > > > > > > > > marriage and she too

> > > > > > > > > wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now

> > > > > > > > > her parents are

> > > > > > > > > totally against her coming back and saving our

> > > > > > > > > marriage. my wife does

> > > > > > > > > not want to go aginst her parents and come back to

> > > > > > > > > me so she says

> > > > > > > > > thats it better to divorce and not work anything

> > > > > > > > > else. i have tried

> > > > > > > > > hard to convince her but nothing. we have been

> > > > > > > > > married for 5 years,

> > > > > > > > > on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on september

> > > > > > > > > 8, 2006. i have

> > > > > > > > > been told by many astrologer that neither have

> > > > > > > > > divorce or 2nd

> > > > > > > > > marriage so why iam I current in divorce status and

> > > > > > > > > will my marriage

> > > > > > > > > survive this current divorce status and me and my

> > > > > > > > > wfie getting back

> > > > > > > > > together. please advice as i need all the advice and

> > > > > > > > > help i can get

> > > > > > > > > to save my marriage and input as to what wil happen

> > > > > > > > > as to my marriage-

> > > > > > > > > divorce or us reuniting????

> > > > > > > > > thank you

> > > > > > > > > God bless

> > > > > > > > > amir

> > > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > > > biodata-

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September 19, 2007

Dear Anup,

REGARDING WHAT?

REGARDS

harjeet

, " Anup. M "

<dalh_1 wrote:

>

> Dear Harjeet,

>

> I AM BECOMING MORE CURIOUS NOW.

> I DNT THINK THIS CLD BE SO.

> PLZ WRITE ARCHIVE MAIL NUMBER IF YOU HAVE:)

>

> REGARDS

> ANUP

>

harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi wrote:

> Dear Sir,

> ohh.. so cant we see navamsa lord and 9th navamsa lord and their

> position in rasi 5:9 ?

> jupiter and sun are in 8th and 12th house in rasi.

> thanks/regards

> harjeet

>

> , " Ash " <kas@> wrote:

> >

> > How ?

> >

> > Ju and Sun are in 3rd house they are not in 5:9?

> >

> > Am I seeing something different ?

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> >

> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca

> >

> > _____

> >

> > On Behalf Of harjeet

> > bakshi

> > Wednesday September 19, 2007 2:46 PM

> >

> > Re: need advice-current divorce

> >

> > Dear Sir,

> > as per 9:30, saggitarius asc. in navamsa. now lord of navamsa and 9th

> > lord in navamsa jupiter and sun are 5:9 in rasi as stated in previous

> > mail.

> > thanks/regards

> > harjeet

> >

> > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents ,

> > " Ash " <kas@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Yes, but there is no blessing so why was there early marriage?

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > >

> > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca>

> > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents

> > > [astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents ]

> > On Behalf Of harjeet

> > > bakshi

> > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 1:49 PM

> > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents

> > > Re: need advice-current divorce

> > >

> > > Yes sir,

> > > as per 9:30 i guess.. conception and birth both in jupiter antra.

> > > i hope next antra of saturn lord of D..comes out good for the

native.

> > > thanks/regards

> > > harjeet

> > >

> > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,

> > > " Ash " <kas@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Harjeet,

> > > >

> > > > Yes, with 8:40 AM lagna and 9th are in 5:9, with 9:30 Am, lagna

> > and 9th

> > > > lords are in 1:1 and not 5:9.

> > > >

> > > > Now also 6th lord is in 9th house but here its also LoE for 1st

> > > house so it

> > > > might not spoil 9th house. So yes, 8:40 AM time can be considered.

> > > >

> > > > Then if delay is reduced then antra after 18 years is Me and

Ke who

> > > are weak

> > > > for 7th and then Venus comes and so Venus can give marriage.

> > > >

> > > > Now in this case 11th points are less than 12th so we must

find out

> > > if this

> > > > girl has more spending trend.

> > > >

> > > > Here Mars is aspecting mercury who is 11th lord and Rahu is

also in

> > > 11th and

> > > > aspecting Mercury so again was there any miscarriage or a

cesearean

> > > birth?

> > > >

> > > > So u have to start to now confirm, with that time 4 sectors of

> > > Mercury and 2

> > > > of Sa are there so that can give u idea of her nature, so again

> > confirm

> > > > that.

> > > >

> > > > That is why having many events is important so yes good

observation

> > > on the

> > > > time of 8:40 AM.

> > > >

> > > > If this girl does not have more spending trend then the lagna

> might be

> > > > different or even the date might be different.

> > > >

> > > > Conception happened in dec 2005 (approx) with delivery in sept

2007

> > > so that

> > > > falls in Mars antra. Power for Ma is less for 11th and 5th.

> > > >

> > > > So that is not matching but Mo can give. After marriage in

antra of

> > > Venus,

> > > > Sun antra came and Sun is weak for 11th so it might give or

> might give

> > > > miscarriage and Mo should give conception.

> > > >

> > > > So again some more rectification might be required.

> > > >

> > > > So like that.

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > >

> > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

> > ca> ca>

> > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > [astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]

> > > On Behalf Of harjeet

> > > > bakshi

> > > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 12:46 PM

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > Re: need advice-current

divorce

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ashji,

> > > > if in navamsa virgo asc. arises.. then in navamsa me and venus

i.e.

> > > > lord of 1st and 9th house is in 5:9. with 8:40 am.

> > > > with 9:30 saggi asc. in navamsa again sun and jupiter in 5:9

in rasi

> > > > which are lord of 1st and 9th in navamsa.

> > > > thanks/regards

> > > > harjeet

> > > >

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > > <%40>

> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,

> > > > " Ash " <kas@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Harjeet,

> > > > >

> > > > > How can 2nd lord aspect be like 6th lord. Something is wrong

> > > > somewhere. If

> > > > > you find that post let me know.

> > > > >

> > > > > 6th house is most malefic and its 12th from B = 7.

> > > > >

> > > > > Harjeet, if you just take Marriage in Ve antra being most

powerful

> > > > then even

> > > > > with 8:30 AM u will still get marriage in Ve antra.

> > > > >

> > > > > Harjeet, please give the calculations here for computing

> marriage in

> > > > detail

> > > > > using both times. This will give u good practice.

> > > > >

> > > > > I will look forward to proper calculations and that will

help all.

> > > > >

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > >

> > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

> > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca>

> > > ca> ca>

> > <http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html/>

> > > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca>

> ca> ca>

> > ca

> > > > >

> > > > > _____

> > > > >

> > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > > <%40>

> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > > [astrologyandtiminge

> > > > <%40>

> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]

> > > > On Behalf Of harjeet

> > > > > bakshi

> > > > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 11:59 AM

> > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > > <%40>

> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > > Re: need advice-current

> divorce

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Ashji/Mishraji/Amir,

> > > > > 9:30 why cant be considered close to correct birth time ?

> > > > > marriage happened in the antra of E and most powerful

> significator.

> > > > > conception and birth of child occurs in antra of jupiter

> having very

> > > > > strong points for 5th,11th and 12th house.

> > > > > jupiter is having least points for 7th house. and is also lord

> > of 2nd

> > > > > house so more problems/tensions and bad result pertaining to 7th

> > > > > house. jupiter also aspects house A,E and D with -5 points.

> > > > > so result pertaining to this house is bad during its antra.

> > > > > somewhere in archive i think i read to look at 2nd lord's

> aspect too

> > > > > just like 6th house..please correct me if i am wrong.

> > > > > again mars lord of 6th aspects house D and E.. and also

> aspects lord

> > > > > of C. and also has low points for 7th house.

> > > > > so the antra of mars 2004 nov to 2005 nov must have created

> problems

> > > > > in married life ? if Amir can comment on this.?

> > > > > next coming antra of saturn lord of D... early 2008 jan end or

> feb..

> > > > > should bring better results ?

> > > > > Amir can you provide some information about career of your

> wife.. if

> > > > > she dont work.. or work very hard but dont earn enough and the

> > > > > expenditure is too much from her side ?

> > > > > thanks/regards

> > > > > harjeet

> > > > >

> > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > > > <%40>

> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,

> > > > > " harjeet bakshi "

> > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Mishraji,

> > > > > > for husband(Amir) chart, venus is in pisces which is dual

sign.

> > > > > > thanks/regards

> > > > > > harjeet

> > > > > >

> > > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > > > <%40>

> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,

> > > > > " Ash " <kas@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Well explained with proper and concrete reasoning based on

> KAS.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > That is the reason why I mentioned in my last line, that the

> > birth

> > > > > > time may

> > > > > > > still be wrong. :-)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

> > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca>

ca> ca>

> > > > ca> ca>

> > > > http://www.ashtro.

> > > > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

> > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca>

> > ca> ca>

> > > ca

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > _____

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > > > <%40>

> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > > > > [astrologyandtiminge

> > > > > <%40>

> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]

> > > > > On Behalf Of

> > > > > > ramesh mishra

> > > > > > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 2:12 AM

> > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > > > <%40>

> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > > > > RE: Re: need

> advice-current

> > > > > divorce

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Ash, Anup, Harjeet and all,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The reasons for questioning the authenticity in the birth

> > time in

> > > > > > respect of

> > > > > > > his spouse are followings.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1.His wife married on 1 Jun 2002 during Ra / Ve.

> Undoubtedly Ve

> > > > is the

> > > > > > > strongest significator for 7th house but there is also

> combined

> > > > > > delay caused

> > > > > > > by Sa and Ju both.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > This delay is overcome on 29 Aug 2004 during Ra/ Mo.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > As per the given time marriage could have taken place in Ma

> > antara

> > > > > > who is SD

> > > > > > > to Mo.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ma is also 6th lord.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 2. This chart indicates harmony in married life because

> 7th from

> > > > > > lagna, Su

> > > > > > > and Mo all are in 3:11 ratio.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 3.There is no blessings in the chart.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 4. Both the luminaries are aspected by Sa.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 5. Ve is under the affliction of Ra/Ke

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 6.Ma as 6th lord is in karak sthaan of 2nd and Mo the karka

> > > lord of

> > > > > > 2nd is

> > > > > > > in house B for 7th. The same Mo and Ma are in 4:10

> > relationship in

> > > > > > navamsa.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > This may indicate the separation and then divorce.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > But this factor is absent in her hussband chart.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 7. 7th lord Ve is in dual sign indicating the second

marriage.

> > > This

> > > > > > is not

> > > > > > > present in her husband chart.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I thought these may be the reason which does not tally

> with her

> > > > > husband

> > > > > > > chart.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > This may be due to wrong birth time.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > When you change the time as 9:36 AM then also nothing

changes

> > > except

> > > > > > > navamsa.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > You may correct me if I am wrong anywhere.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ash <kas@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Here if you cast the chart of the natives wife with the

> > given time

> > > > > > of 8:30

> > > > > > > am, marriage happens in the highest power planet of Venus,

> > and yet

> > > > > > Ramesh

> > > > > > > and I both questioned the time of birth.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > And it turns out that the birth certificate time is of

9:32 AM

> > > which

> > > > > > is more

> > > > > > > than 1 hour difference. Even still the birth time might be

> > wrong.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

> > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/>

> ca/> ca/>

> > > > ca/> ca/>

> > > > > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

> > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> ca> ca

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > _____

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > > > <%40>

> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > > > > [astrologyandtiminge

> > > > > <%40>

> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]

> > > > > On Behalf Of Ash

> > > > > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 10:38 PM

> > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > > > <%40>

> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > > > > RE: Re: need

> advice-current

> > > > > divorce

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Harjeet and All,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Here the native has blessing if this chart is accurate. Most

> > > of the

> > > > > > points

> > > > > > > are less in 7th house so results are showing.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Now, 6th lord is Saturn and its with 3 bindus in 10th

> house. So

> > > > > > from there

> > > > > > > he aspects 7th i.e LoB, House E, House D, LoA and LoC in

> > Navamsa.

> > > > > > So here

> > > > > > > results are more severe.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Here for Quality, remove -5 points from 12th, 7th and 4th

> > and from

> > > > > > Mercury

> > > > > > > and sun as well for quality i.e. 5 points more to offset bad

> > > effects

> > > > > > of 6th

> > > > > > > lord.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > So only Moon is good for timing and quality.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > From lagna, sun, mo, ve and Ma all are in 4:10, 2:12, 4:10,

> > > 3:11 and

> > > > > > 2:12.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 in navamsa.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > As you have said, there is full delay of Sa for 27 years and

> > then

> > > > > of Ju

> > > > > > > after that. So marriage can happen in Rahu who is SD to

> 6th lord

> > > > > > and 7th

> > > > > > > lord Sa and Mo.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > After marriage, antra running have been of Ju who has less

> > > power in

> > > > > > 7th, and

> > > > > > > then after that Mercury who is 2nd lord and less power

in 7th

> > > > house.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Child birth in Sa antra who is SD to Ve the strongest

> > significator

> > > > > > for 5th

> > > > > > > house and Sa is NSD to Ve.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Now the native is running Ketu antra and Ketu is in House E

> > > for 7th

> > > > > > as B and

> > > > > > > SD to Mo so again strong feelings are there and at the same

> > > time its

> > > > > > SD to

> > > > > > > Sa as well so again it can't give full happiness.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > After that again the antras are not strong for 7th

house, sun

> > > has 12

> > > > > > points

> > > > > > > but again its aspected by Sa so quality is still poor.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > My suggestion in this case would be to try to reconcile

> with his

> > > > > > wife and to

> > > > > > > use the power of blessing. Try to let bygones be bygones and

> > start

> > > > > > afresh

> > > > > > > for the child.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The native will have to do a lot of adjustment.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Otherwise it's very difficult.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > On another note, just recently I gave the discussion that

> > > Krushnaji

> > > > > > gave on

> > > > > > > accepting time as given. Here this gentleman's wife's

> chart is a

> > > > > prime

> > > > > > > candidate on how data can be wrong and using KAS it can be

> > pointed

> > > > > out.

> > > > > > > Ramesh also pointed out the improper time of his wife and so

> > > did I.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Actually this is based on concrete calculations and just

> > accepting

> > > > > > the time

> > > > > > > given as correct is not always proper. Unless one takes

proper

> > > > > > effort to

> > > > > > > tally events and makes sure that things are fitting right or

> > even

> > > > > in the

> > > > > > > ball park.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I will leave it to Ramesh to show and demonstrate the

> reason on

> > > > why he

> > > > > > > questioned the authenticity of birth time.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sometimes, people also change the dates and that I have

> > personally

> > > > > > > experienced. In any case, one thing is clear, that if the

> birth

> > > > > time is

> > > > > > > accurate then all the events of life will fall in place.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

> > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca/>

> ca/> ca/>

> > > > ca/> ca/>

> > > > > http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

> > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca> ca> ca

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > _____

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > > > <%40>

> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > > > > [astrologyandtiminge

> > > > > <%40>

> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]

> > > > > On Behalf Of harjeet

> > > > > > > bakshi

> > > > > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 9:07 PM

> > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > > > <%40>

> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > > > > > Re: need advice-current

> > > divorce

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Amir,

> > > > > > > i am just learning KAS...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > taking marriage 5 years ago.. might have happened in the

antra

> > > > of rahu

> > > > > > > samdhari to saturn lord of 6th and is situated in 6th house.

> > > > > > > now antra of ketu samdhari to moon which is having highest

> > > point for

> > > > > > > 7th house and situated in D... so chances of marriage to

> break(i

> > > > dont

> > > > > > > wish so.. but thats the law given in lesson).. but again

> rahu is

> > > > also

> > > > > > > samdhari to moon which has highest points for 7th house.

> > > > > > > Ashji please guide on this one..

> > > > > > > i think the result of marriage is spoiled because rahu being

> > > > samdhari

> > > > > > > to 6th lord saturn gave marriage.

> > > > > > > also 6th lord saturn has sight on B,D and E so marriage is

> > bad...

> > > > > > > result might be felt specially in the antra of saturn...

2004

> > > sep to

> > > > > > > 2006 apr.

> > > > > > > also during this antra gave bad results for house 4th

and 7th

> > > aswell

> > > > > > > as 6th being in less points and 4th from sun and mercury.

> > > > > > > venus is in dual sign in both rasi(also aspecting 2nd house

> > > with -5

> > > > > > > points) and navamsa.. chances of 2 marriages.

> > > > > > > sun in 7th house.

> > > > > > > moon aspected by ketu in navamsa and with mars in rasi..

might

> > > cause

> > > > > > > you to take hasty steps.

> > > > > > > cant go more as out of time..

> > > > > > > try to put efforts to pursue your goal. one point

> > irrespective of

> > > > > > > birth time in your wife's chart is that your rahu and saturn

> > > aspects

> > > > > > > her mars based on sign overlapping. so there would be strong

> > > > > > > attraction between the couple... this might be the positive

> > > factor.

> > > > > > > thanks/regards

> > > > > > > harjeet

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > > > > > <%40>

> > > > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,

> > > > > > > jay shanders

> > > > > > > <phillyanyone@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Mr. ramesh

> > > > > > > > how are you?/

> > > > > > > > thank you so much for your reply

> > > > > > > > as i am always gratful for all your help and i dont mean

> > to give

> > > > > > > you a hard time its just i depend on you so much for

> advice and

> > > > > > > prediction as to my current divorce proceeding

> > > > > > > > my wife has told me her birth time is 8:30 AM but i have a

> > > copy of

> > > > > > > her indian birth certificate and on there it has 9:36 AM

so i

> > > > honestly

> > > > > > > dont know which one is for real as i cant even ask her right

> > > > now. can

> > > > > > > you use both and see what results you get. as using the 8:30

> > > AM you

> > > > > > > have said that there is no divorce now or future, does that

> > still

> > > > > > > hold. i just want to know that even though iam going

> through the

> > > > > > > divorce proceeding should i really worry as will it go

through

> > > > and us

> > > > > > > divorce or will it Not happen and we stay married. my birth

> > > time is

> > > > > > > accurate so do i have divorce and 2nd marriage in my chart

> > ???? i

> > > > > > > just want to know over all if me and my wife will have a

long

> > > > lasting

> > > > > > > marriage ??

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > please help me in any way possible as you are helping a

> person

> > > > > > > save his marriage and thus i have a daughter that i worry so

> > much

> > > > > > > about. any further information as to my chart will be

> > > appreciated??

> > > > > > > > thank you

> > > > > > > > amir

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > Dear Amir,

> > > > > > > > Please read my all mails sincerely.You will find all

> > > > > > > > your answers.

> > > > > > > > I had asked you before also the correctness of

> > > > > > > > birthtime of your spouse and Ash also asked you same

> > > > > > > > data.

> > > > > > > > Unless the birthtime is authenticated, all efforts

> > > > > > > > will be useless.

> > > > > > > > This I have already pointed you out.I think now you

> > > > > > > > understand it.

> > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- jay shanders <phillyanyone@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > > > > > > > namaste

> > > > > > > > > iam not confused as you have told me in last email

> > > > > > > > > that there is No divorce nor or future.

> > > > > > > > > iam the same Amir that has been emailing you for

> > > > > > > > > consults and you have beening gicing me

> > > > > > > > > predictions. so are you now saying that we will

> > > > > > > > > divorce now with likely chances of reunion in feb???

> > > > > > > > > so divorce will occur??? i think if divorce occur

> > > > > > > > > there will not be any chances of reunion since i

> > > > > > > > > cant stop my wife from divorcing then why would she

> > > > > > > > > reunite with me after it ??

> > > > > > > > > thank you

> > > > > > > > > amir

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > Dear Amir,

> > > > > > > > > Likely chances for re-union is there sometime in

> > > > > > > > > the month of Feb/2008.

> > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > phillyanyone <phillyanyone@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > NAMASTE

> > > > > > > > > Dear Guruji

> > > > > > > > > Mr name is Amir and iam currently separated from my

> > > > > > > > > wife and daughter

> > > > > > > > > since march 9 2007 and we are in the divorce

> > > > > > > > > proceeding status.

> > > > > > > > > because of many problems between my wife and her

> > > > > > > > > controling parents

> > > > > > > > > who have strong influence on her i hastly filed for

> > > > > > > > > divorce becase of

> > > > > > > > > bad circumstance 6 months ago and after couple of

> > > > > > > > > weeks going by, i

> > > > > > > > > wanted to reconcile with my wife and save our

> > > > > > > > > marriage and she too

> > > > > > > > > wanted to come back and save our amrriage but now

> > > > > > > > > her parents are

> > > > > > > > > totally against her coming back and saving our

> > > > > > > > > marriage. my wife does

> > > > > > > > > not want to go aginst her parents and come back to

> > > > > > > > > me so she says

> > > > > > > > > thats it better to divorce and not work anything

> > > > > > > > > else. i have tried

> > > > > > > > > hard to convince her but nothing. we have been

> > > > > > > > > married for 5 years,

> > > > > > > > > on june1, 2002 and we had our daughter on september

> > > > > > > > > 8, 2006. i have

> > > > > > > > > been told by many astrologer that neither have

> > > > > > > > > divorce or 2nd

> > > > > > > > > marriage so why iam I current in divorce status and

> > > > > > > > > will my marriage

> > > > > > > > > survive this current divorce status and me and my

> > > > > > > > > wfie getting back

> > > > > > > > > together. please advice as i need all the advice and

> > > > > > > > > help i can get

> > > > > > > > > to save my marriage and input as to what wil happen

> > > > > > > > > as to my marriage-

> > > > > > > > > divorce or us reuniting????

> > > > > > > > > thank you

> > > > > > > > > God bless

> > > > > > > > > amir

> > > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > > > biodata-

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Dear Harjeet,

Your friend chart is male and here its

female chart and that is why I am seeing 11th. Also Ra is in 11th

and Me is in 12th and Ma is in 9th aspecting Me in the

case of the wife of the native.

Cheers !!!

On Behalf Of harjeet bakshi

Wednesday September 19, 2007

4:13 PM

Re: need advice-current divorce

Thanks for that Ashji.

i thought we can do it either way.

anyway.. so for conception cant happen in the planet having low points

even if there is blessing in the chart ?

thanks/regards

harjeet

P.S.

my friend from ahmedabad whose chart i am working on... if it needs

rectification got a baby girl on 17th this month. his conception also

occured in antra of mars which had very low points for 5th and 12th house.

so his birth time seems to be pretty vague too..

,

" Ash " <kas wrote:

>

> No Harjeet you can't do that.

>

> Only Lagna and 9th lord of lagna we check in Rasi and then Navamsa.

Then we

> check Navamsa lagna and 9th lord in NAVAMSA ONLY.

>

> Cheers !!!

>

> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca>

>

> _____

>

On Behalf Of harjeet

> bakshi

> Wednesday September 19, 2007 3:52 PM

>

> Re: need advice-current divorce

>

> Dear Sir,

> ohh.. so cant we see navamsa lord and 9th navamsa lord and their

> position in rasi 5:9 ?

> jupiter and sun are in 8th and 12th house in rasi.

> thanks/regards

> harjeet

>

> astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents ,

> " Ash " <kas@> wrote:

> >

> > How ?

> >

> > Ju and Sun are in 3rd house they are not in 5:9?

> >

> > Am I seeing something different ?

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> >

> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.

> >

> > _____

> >

> > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents

> > [astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents ]

> On Behalf Of harjeet

> > bakshi

> > Wednesday September 19, 2007 2:46 PM

> > astrologyandtiminge

> <%40>

vents

> > Re: need advice-current

divorce

> >

> > Dear Sir,

> > as per 9:30, saggitarius asc. in navamsa. now lord of navamsa and 9th

> > lord in navamsa jupiter and sun are 5:9 in rasi as stated in previous

> > mail.

> > thanks/regards

> > harjeet

> >

> > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com,

> > " Ash " <kas@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Yes, but there is no blessing so why was there early marriage?

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > >

> > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.

> ca> ca>

> > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > [astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com]

> > On Behalf Of harjeet

> > > bakshi

> > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 1:49 PM

> > > astrologyandtiminge

> > <%40>

> vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40> com

> > > Re: need advice-current

divorce

> > >

> > > Yes sir,

> > > as per 9:30 i guess.. conception and birth both in jupiter

antra.

> > > i hope next antra of saturn lord of D..comes out good for the

native.

> > > thanks/regards

> > > harjeet

> > >

> > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40>

com,

> > > " Ash " <kas@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Harjeet,

> > > >

> > > > Yes, with 8:40 AM lagna and 9th are in 5:9, with 9:30 Am,

lagna

> > and 9th

> > > > lords are in 1:1 and not 5:9.

> > > >

> > > > Now also 6th lord is in 9th house but here its also LoE for

1st

> > > house so it

> > > > might not spoil 9th house. So yes, 8:40 AM time can be

considered.

> > > >

> > > > Then if delay is reduced then antra after 18 years is Me

and

Ke who

> > > are weak

> > > > for 7th and then Venus comes and so Venus can give

marriage.

> > > >

> > > > Now in this case 11th points are less than 12th so we must

find out

> > > if this

> > > > girl has more spending trend.

> > > >

> > > > Here Mars is aspecting mercury who is 11th lord and Rahu is

also in

> > > 11th and

> > > > aspecting Mercury so again was there any miscarriage or a

cesearean

> > > birth?

> > > >

> > > > So u have to start to now confirm, with that time 4 sectors

of

> > > Mercury and 2

> > > > of Sa are there so that can give u idea of her nature, so

again

> > confirm

> > > > that.

> > > >

> > > > That is why having many events is important so yes good

observation

> > > on the

> > > > time of 8:40 AM.

> > > >

> > > > If this girl does not have more spending trend then the

lagna

> might be

> > > > different or even the date might be different.

> > > >

> > > > Conception happened in dec 2005 (approx) with delivery in

sept

2007

> > > so that

> > > > falls in Mars antra. Power for Ma is less for 11th and 5th.

> > > >

> > > > So that is not matching but Mo can give. After marriage in

antra of

> > > Venus,

> > > > Sun antra came and Sun is weak for 11th so it might give or

> might give

> > > > miscarriage and Mo should give conception.

> > > >

> > > > So again some more rectification might be required.

> > > >

> > > > So like that.

> > > >

> > > > Cheers !!!

> > > >

> > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.

> > ca> ca>

> > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca>

ca> ca>

> ca

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40>

com

> > > > [astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40>

com]

> > > On Behalf Of harjeet

> > > > bakshi

> > > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 12:46 PM

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > <%40>

> > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40>

com

> > > > Re: need

advice-current

divorce

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ashji,

> > > > if in navamsa virgo asc. arises.. then in navamsa me and

venus

i.e.

> > > > lord of 1st and 9th house is in 5:9. with 8:40 am.

> > > > with 9:30 saggi asc. in navamsa again sun and jupiter in

5:9

in rasi

> > > > which are lord of 1st and 9th in navamsa.

> > > > thanks/regards

> > > > harjeet

> > > >

> > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > > <%40>

> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40>

com,

> > > > " Ash " <kas@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Harjeet,

> > > > >

> > > > > How can 2nd lord aspect be like 6th lord. Something is

wrong

> > > > somewhere. If

> > > > > you find that post let me know.

> > > > >

> > > > > 6th house is most malefic and its 12th from B = 7.

> > > > >

> > > > > Harjeet, if you just take Marriage in Ve antra being

most

powerful

> > > > then even

> > > > > with 8:30 AM u will still get marriage in Ve antra.

> > > > >

> > > > > Harjeet, please give the calculations here for

computing

> marriage in

> > > > detail

> > > > > using both times. This will give u good practice.

> > > > >

> > > > > I will look forward to proper calculations and that

will

help all.

> > > > >

> > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > >

> > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.

> > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca>

> > > ca> ca>

> > > > <http://www.ashtro.

ca>

> ca> ca>

> > ca

> > > > >

> > > > > _____

> > > > >

> > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > > <%40>

> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40>

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> > > > > [astrologyandtiminge

> > > > <%40>

> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40>

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> > > > On Behalf Of harjeet

> > > > > bakshi

> > > > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 11:59 AM

> > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > > <%40>

> > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40>

com

> > > > > Re: need

advice-current

> divorce

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Ashji/Mishraji/Amir,

> > > > > 9:30 why cant be considered close to correct birth

time ?

> > > > > marriage happened in the antra of E and most powerful

> significator.

> > > > > conception and birth of child occurs in antra of

jupiter

> having very

> > > > > strong points for 5th,11th and 12th house.

> > > > > jupiter is having least points for 7th house. and is

also lord

> > of 2nd

> > > > > house so more problems/tensions and bad result

pertaining to 7th

> > > > > house. jupiter also aspects house A,E and D with -5

points.

> > > > > so result pertaining to this house is bad during its

antra.

> > > > > somewhere in archive i think i read to look at 2nd

lord's

> aspect too

> > > > > just like 6th house..please correct me if i am wrong.

> > > > > again mars lord of 6th aspects house D and E.. and

also

> aspects lord

> > > > > of C. and also has low points for 7th house.

> > > > > so the antra of mars 2004 nov to 2005 nov must have

created

> problems

> > > > > in married life ? if Amir can comment on this.?

> > > > > next coming antra of saturn lord of D... early 2008

jan end or

> feb..

> > > > > should bring better results ?

> > > > > Amir can you provide some information about career of

your

> wife.. if

> > > > > she dont work.. or work very hard but dont earn enough

and the

> > > > > expenditure is too much from her side ?

> > > > > thanks/regards

> > > > > harjeet

> > > > >

> > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > > > <%40>

> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40>

com,

> > > > > " harjeet bakshi "

> > > > > <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Mishraji,

> > > > > > for husband(Amir) chart, venus is in pisces which

is dual

sign.

> > > > > > thanks/regards

> > > > > > harjeet

> > > > > >

> > > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > > > <%40>

> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40>

com,

> > > > > " Ash " <kas@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Well explained with proper and concrete

reasoning based on

> KAS.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > That is the reason why I mentioned in my

last line, that the

> > birth

> > > > > > time may

> > > > > > > still be wrong. :-)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.

> > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

ca> ca> ca>

> > > > ca> ca>

> > > > http://www.ashtro.

> > > > > <http://www.ashtro.

> > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca> ca>

> > ca> ca>

> > > ca

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > _____

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > > > <%40>

> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40>

com

> > > > > > > [astrologyandtiminge

> > > > > <%40>

> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40>

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> > > > > On Behalf Of

> > > > > > ramesh mishra

> > > > > > > Wednesday September 19, 2007 2:12 AM

> > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > > > <%40>

> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40>

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> > > > > > > RE:

Re: need

> advice-current

> > > > > divorce

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Ash, Anup, Harjeet and all,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The reasons for questioning the authenticity

in the birth

> > time in

> > > > > > respect of

> > > > > > > his spouse are followings.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1.His wife married on 1 Jun 2002 during Ra /

Ve.

> Undoubtedly Ve

> > > > is the

> > > > > > > strongest significator for 7th house but

there is also

> combined

> > > > > > delay caused

> > > > > > > by Sa and Ju both.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > This delay is overcome on 29 Aug 2004 during

Ra/ Mo.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > As per the given time marriage could have

taken place in Ma

> > antara

> > > > > > who is SD

> > > > > > > to Mo.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ma is also 6th lord.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 2. This chart indicates harmony in married

life because

> 7th from

> > > > > > lagna, Su

> > > > > > > and Mo all are in 3:11 ratio.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 3.There is no blessings in the chart.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 4. Both the luminaries are aspected by Sa.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 5. Ve is under the affliction of Ra/Ke

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 6.Ma as 6th lord is in karak sthaan of 2nd

and Mo the karka

> > > lord of

> > > > > > 2nd is

> > > > > > > in house B for 7th. The same Mo and Ma are

in 4:10

> > relationship in

> > > > > > navamsa.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > This may indicate the separation and then

divorce.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > But this factor is absent in her hussband

chart.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 7. 7th lord Ve is in dual sign indicating

the second

marriage.

> > > This

> > > > > > is not

> > > > > > > present in her husband chart.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I thought these may be the reason which does

not tally

> with her

> > > > > husband

> > > > > > > chart.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > This may be due to wrong birth time.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > When you change the time as 9:36 AM then

also nothing

changes

> > > except

> > > > > > > navamsa.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > You may correct me if I am wrong anywhere.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ash <kas@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Here if you cast the chart of the natives

wife with the

> > given time

> > > > > > of 8:30

> > > > > > > am, marriage happens in the highest power

planet of Venus,

> > and yet

> > > > > > Ramesh

> > > > > > > and I both questioned the time of birth.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > And it turns out that the birth certificate

time is of

9:32 AM

> > > which

> > > > > > is more

> > > > > > > than 1 hour difference. Even still the birth

time might be

> > wrong.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.

> > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

> <http://www.ashtro.ca/>

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> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > _____

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > > > <%40>

> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40>

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> > > > > > > [astrologyandtiminge

> > > > > <%40>

> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40>

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> > > > > On Behalf Of Ash

> > > > > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 10:38 PM

> > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > > > <%40>

> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40>

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> > > > > > > RE:

Re: need

> advice-current

> > > > > divorce

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Harjeet and All,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Here the native has blessing if this chart

is accurate. Most

> > > of the

> > > > > > points

> > > > > > > are less in 7th house so results are

showing.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Now, 6th lord is Saturn and its with 3

bindus in 10th

> house. So

> > > > > > from there

> > > > > > > he aspects 7th i.e LoB, House E, House D,

LoA and LoC in

> > Navamsa.

> > > > > > So here

> > > > > > > results are more severe.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Here for Quality, remove -5 points from

12th, 7th and 4th

> > and from

> > > > > > Mercury

> > > > > > > and sun as well for quality i.e. 5 points

more to offset bad

> > > effects

> > > > > > of 6th

> > > > > > > lord.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > So only Moon is good for timing and quality.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > From lagna, sun, mo, ve and Ma all are in

4:10, 2:12, 4:10,

> > > 3:11 and

> > > > > > 2:12.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 in navamsa.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > As you have said, there is full delay of Sa

for 27 years and

> > then

> > > > > of Ju

> > > > > > > after that. So marriage can happen in Rahu

who is SD to

> 6th lord

> > > > > > and 7th

> > > > > > > lord Sa and Mo.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > After marriage, antra running have been of

Ju who has less

> > > power in

> > > > > > 7th, and

> > > > > > > then after that Mercury who is 2nd lord and

less power

in 7th

> > > > house.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Child birth in Sa antra who is SD to Ve the

strongest

> > significator

> > > > > > for 5th

> > > > > > > house and Sa is NSD to Ve.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Now the native is running Ketu antra and

Ketu is in House E

> > > for 7th

> > > > > > as B and

> > > > > > > SD to Mo so again strong feelings are there

and at the same

> > > time its

> > > > > > SD to

> > > > > > > Sa as well so again it can't give full

happiness.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > After that again the antras are not strong

for 7th

house, sun

> > > has 12

> > > > > > points

> > > > > > > but again its aspected by Sa so quality is

still poor.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > My suggestion in this case would be to try

to reconcile

> with his

> > > > > > wife and to

> > > > > > > use the power of blessing. Try to let

bygones be bygones and

> > start

> > > > > > afresh

> > > > > > > for the child.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The native will have to do a lot of

adjustment.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Otherwise it's very difficult.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > On another note, just recently I gave the

discussion that

> > > Krushnaji

> > > > > > gave on

> > > > > > > accepting time as given. Here this

gentleman's wife's

> chart is a

> > > > > prime

> > > > > > > candidate on how data can be wrong and using

KAS it can be

> > pointed

> > > > > out.

> > > > > > > Ramesh also pointed out the improper time of

his wife and so

> > > did I.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Actually this is based on concrete

calculations and just

> > accepting

> > > > > > the time

> > > > > > > given as correct is not always proper.

Unless one takes

proper

> > > > > > effort to

> > > > > > > tally events and makes sure that things are

fitting right or

> > even

> > > > > in the

> > > > > > > ball park.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I will leave it to Ramesh to show and

demonstrate the

> reason on

> > > > why he

> > > > > > > questioned the authenticity of birth time.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sometimes, people also change the dates and

that I have

> > personally

> > > > > > > experienced. In any case, one thing is

clear, that if the

> birth

> > > > > time is

> > > > > > > accurate then all the events of life will

fall in place.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Cheers !!!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.

> > > <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.

> <http://www.ashtro.ca/>

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> > > > > > > _____

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > > > <%40>

> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40>

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> > > > > > > [astrologyandtiminge

> > > > > <%40>

> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40>

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> > > > > On Behalf Of harjeet

> > > > > > > bakshi

> > > > > > > Tuesday September 18, 2007 9:07 PM

> > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > > > <%40>

> > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40>

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> > > > > > > Re:

need advice-current

> > > divorce

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Amir,

> > > > > > > i am just learning KAS...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > taking marriage 5 years ago.. might have

happened in the

antra

> > > > of rahu

> > > > > > > samdhari to saturn lord of 6th and is

situated in 6th house.

> > > > > > > now antra of ketu samdhari to moon which is

having highest

> > > point for

> > > > > > > 7th house and situated in D... so chances of

marriage to

> break(i

> > > > dont

> > > > > > > wish so.. but thats the law given in

lesson).. but again

> rahu is

> > > > also

> > > > > > > samdhari to moon which has highest points

for 7th house.

> > > > > > > Ashji please guide on this one..

> > > > > > > i think the result of marriage is spoiled

because rahu being

> > > > samdhari

> > > > > > > to 6th lord saturn gave marriage.

> > > > > > > also 6th lord saturn has sight on B,D and E

so marriage is

> > bad...

> > > > > > > result might be felt specially in the antra

of saturn...

2004

> > > sep to

> > > > > > > 2006 apr.

> > > > > > > also during this antra gave bad results for

house 4th

and 7th

> > > aswell

> > > > > > > as 6th being in less points and 4th from sun

and mercury.

> > > > > > > venus is in dual sign in both rasi(also

aspecting 2nd house

> > > with -5

> > > > > > > points) and navamsa.. chances of 2

marriages.

> > > > > > > sun in 7th house.

> > > > > > > moon aspected by ketu in navamsa and with

mars in rasi..

might

> > > cause

> > > > > > > you to take hasty steps.

> > > > > > > cant go more as out of time..

> > > > > > > try to put efforts to pursue your goal. one

point

> > irrespective of

> > > > > > > birth time in your wife's chart is that your

rahu and saturn

> > > aspects

> > > > > > > her mars based on sign overlapping. so there

would be strong

> > > > > > > attraction between the couple... this might

be the positive

> > > factor.

> > > > > > > thanks/regards

> > > > > > > harjeet

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > astrologyandtiminge

> > > > > > > <%40>

> > > > > > vents (AT) (DOT) <vents%40>

com,

> > > > > > > jay shanders

> > > > > > > <phillyanyone@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Mr. ramesh

> > > > > > > > how are you?/

> > > > > > > > thank you so much for your reply

> > > > > > > > as i am always gratful for all your

help and i dont mean

> > to give

> > > > > > > you a hard time its just i depend on you so

much for

> advice and

> > > > > > > prediction as to my current divorce

proceeding

> > > > > > > > my wife has told me her birth time is

8:30 AM but i have a

> > > copy of

> > > > > > > her indian birth certificate and on there it

has 9:36 AM

so i

> > > > honestly

> > > > > > > dont know which one is for real as i cant

even ask her right

> > > > now. can

> > > > > > > you use both and see what results you get.

as using the 8:30

> > > AM you

> > > > > > > have said that there is no divorce now or

future, does that

> > still

> > > > > > > hold. i just want to know that even though

iam going

> through the

> > > > > > > divorce proceeding should i really worry as

will it go

through

> > > > and us

> > > > > > > divorce or will it Not happen and we stay

married. my birth

> > > time is

> > > > > > > accurate so do i have divorce and 2nd

marriage in my chart

> > ???? i

> > > > > > > just want to know over all if me and my wife

will have a

long

> > > > lasting

> > > > > > > marriage ??

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > please help me in any way possible as

you are helping a

> person

> > > > > > > save his marriage and thus i have a daughter

that i worry so

> > much

> > > > > > > about. any further information as to my

chart will be

> > > appreciated??

> > > > > > > > thank you

> > > > > > > > amir

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@>

wrote:

> > > > > > > > Dear Amir,

> > > > > > > > Please read my all mails sincerely.You

will find all

> > > > > > > > your answers.

> > > > > > > > I had asked you before also the

correctness of

> > > > > > > > birthtime of your spouse and Ash also

asked you same

> > > > > > > > data.

> > > > > > > > Unless the birthtime is authenticated,

all efforts

> > > > > > > > will be useless.

> > > > > > > > This I have already pointed you out.I

think now you

> > > > > > > > understand it.

> > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- jay shanders <phillyanyone@>

wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > > > > > > > namaste

> > > > > > > > > iam not confused as you have told

me in last email

> > > > > > > > > that there is No divorce nor or

future.

> > > > > > > > > iam the same Amir that has been

emailing you for

> > > > > > > > > consults and you have beening

gicing me

> > > > > > > > > predictions. so are you now saying

that we will

> > > > > > > > > divorce now with likely chances of

reunion in feb???

> > > > > > > > > so divorce will occur??? i think

if divorce occur

> > > > > > > > > there will not be any chances of

reunion since i

> > > > > > > > > cant stop my wife from divorcing

then why would she

> > > > > > > > > reunite with me after it ??

> > > > > > > > > thank you

> > > > > > > > > amir

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@>

wrote:

> > > > > > > > > Dear Amir,

> > > > > > > > > Likely chances for re-union is

there sometime in

> > > > > > > > > the month of Feb/2008.

> > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > phillyanyone <phillyanyone@>

wrote:

> > > > > > > > > NAMASTE

> > > > > > > > > Dear Guruji

> > > > > > > > > Mr name is Amir and iam currently

separated from my

> > > > > > > > > wife and daughter

> > > > > > > > > since march 9 2007 and we are in

the divorce

> > > > > > > > > proceeding status.

> > > > > > > > > because of many problems between

my wife and her

> > > > > > > > > controling parents

> > > > > > > > > who have strong influence on her i

hastly filed for

> > > > > > > > > divorce becase of

> > > > > > > > > bad circumstance 6 months ago and

after couple of

> > > > > > > > > weeks going by, i

> > > > > > > > > wanted to reconcile with my wife

and save our

> > > > > > > > > marriage and she too

> > > > > > > > > wanted to come back and save our

amrriage but now

> > > > > > > > > her parents are

> > > > > > > > > totally against her coming back

and saving our

> > > > > > > > > marriage. my wife does

> > > > > > > > > not want to go aginst her parents

and come back to

> > > > > > > > > me so she says

> > > > > > > > > thats it better to divorce and not

work anything

> > > > > > > > > else. i have tried

> > > > > > > > > hard to convince her but nothing.

we have been

> > > > > > > > > married for 5 years,

> > > > > > > > > on june1, 2002 and we had our

daughter on september

> > > > > > > > > 8, 2006. i have

> > > > > > > > > been told by many astrologer that

neither have

> > > > > > > > > divorce or 2nd

> > > > > > > > > marriage so why iam I current in

divorce status and

> > > > > > > > > will my marriage

> > > > > > > > > survive this current divorce

status and me and my

> > > > > > > > > wfie getting back

> > > > > > > > > together. please advice as i need

all the advice and

> > > > > > > > > help i can get

> > > > > > > > > to save my marriage and input as

to what wil happen

> > > > > > > > > as to my marriage-

> > > > > > > > > divorce or us reuniting????

> > > > > > > > > thank you

> > > > > > > > > God bless

> > > > > > > > > amir

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > amir patel

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