Guest guest Report post Posted May 4, 2006 Dear List members, Here is a chart of a Male. Date of Birth 13.07.1966 Time of Birth 8.25 pm Place of Birth: Pune, India Please do the analysis for marriage date and profession. The native feels time need rectification. we will take it from there. Thanks Bala Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1 & cent;/min. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 6, 2006 sorry, i want to reattempt. there is delay in navamsa from jupiter. there is also a zero. but all delays nullified by lord of 1 9 in 5:9. marriage in moon antra(strong significator) 1st sector in mars mahadasha ? 87 sep to 88 apr ? thanks/regards harjeet , " harjeet_bakshi " <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > > Hi, > i want to try too. > jupiter delay gets over after 24 years. > the antra of jupiter goes on after delay is over which is lord of E > and a strong significator. > i would go for jupiter antra in rahu MD. > first sector after dec 1990 ? > thanks/regards > harjeet > > > , bala sosale > <bsosale@> wrote: > > > > Dear List members, > > > > Here is a chart of a Male. > > > > > > Date of Birth 13.07.1966 > > Time of Birth 8.25 pm > > Place of Birth: Pune, India > > > > Please do the analysis for marriage date and profession. > > > > The native feels time need rectification. > > > > we will take it from there. > > > > Thanks > > Bala > > > > > > > > > > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. > Great rates starting at 1 & cent;/min. > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 6, 2006 Harjeet, I will post the actual date on Tuesday. Regards Bala Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1 & cent;/min. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 6, 2006 Dear all, For the same chart find out all the sd's and explain in details as why they are sd's. This will be a good excercise for new comers. Here are the details Male 13th July 1966 8.25 PM , Pune India 18N32, 73E52 IST -5.30. Planet Degrees As 17 Cp 34 Su 28 Ge 16 Mo 29 Ar 25 Ma 9 Ge 11 Me 18 Cn 52 Ju 22 Ge 25 Ve 27 Ta 50 SaR 7 Pi 12 Ra 29 Ar 54 Ke 29 Li 54 Thanks Bala Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 7, 2006 Dear Bala, Namaskar, Here is my attempt to find out the date of marriage. I have read the attempts made by other friends but my reply is against all those friends. Someone timed Moon antara in Mars MD, someone has said Rahu and other went to Jup antara.Though those friends may be correct but I do not want to repeat their approach. Therefore my attempt may be totally out of line but to the point and based on KAS rules. The Asc I got is 17 Cp 35. In this chart there is no delay by Sat but delay is due to Jup. One zero in SAV chart. Sun to Venus distance is < 43 deg therefore normal. LoD is Mars and LoE is Jup. SD to Mars is Su and Jup. Me is the 6th lord occupies house B. LoB Mo is in house D with more strength. No doubt Mo and Ra antara both are capable to give the event of marriage.Ra is SD to Ma and Ma has quite strength for 7th house. Mo is with 18 points highest for 7th house. Moon antara comes before so Mo may be eager to give the result. Besides all that my thinking is quite different. Reason is that I found lagnalord and 9th lord Sat and Me are in 5:9 combination therefore delay is nullified and marriageable age becomes 21 years. The relationship between lagnalord and its 7th lord, Sunsign lord and its 7th lord and Moon sign lord and its 7th lord, all are in 2/12 position. Ve/Ma is also in 2/12. 6thlord Me is in 7th house. Considering all these placement of planets I think this is not a happy marriage and disharmony in married life. Therefore marriage has to be in antara of weak planet. Sun is SD to Ma with only 11 points in 7th house. I chose Sun antara for the marriage.The marriage might have taken place sometime between Jul 1987 and Aug 1987. I may be wrong also but I have chosen this period for the gaining of my knowledge.Please give the result soon . I am very anxious to know the result.. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra bala sosale <bsosale wrote: Dear all, For the same chart find out all the sd's and explain in details as why they are sd's. This will be a good excercise for new comers. Here are the details Male 13th July 1966 8.25 PM , Pune India 18N32, 73E52 IST -5.30. Planet Degrees As 17 Cp 34 Su 28 Ge 16 Mo 29 Ar 25 Ma 9 Ge 11 Me 18 Cn 52 Ju 22 Ge 25 Ve 27 Ta 50 SaR 7 Pi 12 Ra 29 Ar 54 Ke 29 Li 54 Thanks Bala Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 7, 2006 I havent read any of the analyses, as I thought I might get biassed. So here is my analysis: Jupiter is causing delay, saturn causes no delay. 1st house lord and 2dhouse lord are in 9:5. Will the delay be cancelled? I am trying to use some new concepts, I dont if I am able to apply it properly (shall see and explain later). I will take Jupiter delay for now. not going into too much of details I will select, Jupiter antra, First sector. An arranged marriage. 1990-Dec-27 to 1991-Oct-15 I did it in a hurry, I hope I didnt miss anything. --Manoshi , ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > > Dear Bala, Namaskar, > Here is my attempt to find out the date of marriage. I have read the attempts made by other friends but my reply is against all those friends. Someone timed Moon antara in Mars MD, someone has said Rahu and other went to Jup antara.Though those friends may be correct but I do not want to repeat their approach. Therefore my attempt may be totally out of line but to the point and based on KAS rules. > The Asc I got is 17 Cp 35. In this chart there is no delay by Sat but delay is due to Jup. One zero in SAV chart. Sun to Venus distance is < 43 deg therefore normal. LoD is Mars and LoE is Jup. SD to Mars is Su and Jup. Me is the 6th lord occupies house B. LoB Mo is in house D with more strength. No doubt Mo and Ra antara both are capable to give the event of marriage.Ra is SD to Ma and Ma has quite strength for 7th house. Mo is with 18 points highest for 7th house. Moon antara comes before so Mo may be eager to give the result. Besides all that my thinking is quite different. Reason is that I found lagnalord and 9th lord Sat and Me are in 5:9 combination therefore delay is nullified and marriageable age becomes 21 years. The relationship between lagnalord and its 7th lord, Sunsign lord and its 7th lord and Moon sign lord and its 7th lord, all are in 2/12 position. Ve/Ma is also in 2/12. 6thlord Me is in 7th house. Considering all these placement of planets I think this > is not a happy marriage and disharmony in married life. Therefore marriage has to be in antara of weak planet. Sun is SD to Ma with only 11 points in 7th house. > I chose Sun antara for the marriage.The marriage might have taken place sometime between Jul 1987 and Aug 1987. > I may be wrong also but I have chosen this period for the gaining of my knowledge.Please give the result soon . I am very anxious to know the result.. > Thanks and regards. > Ramesh Mishra > > bala sosale <bsosale wrote: > Dear all, > > For the same chart find out all the sd's and explain in details as why they are sd's. > > This will be a good excercise for new comers. > > Here are the details > > Male 13th July 1966 > 8.25 PM , Pune India 18N32, 73E52 IST -5.30. > > Planet > Degrees > > As > > 17 Cp 34 > Su > > 28 Ge 16 > Mo > > 29 Ar 25 > > Ma > > 9 Ge 11 > > Me > > 18 Cn 52 > Ju > > 22 Ge 25 > Ve > > 27 Ta 50 > > SaR > > 7 Pi 12 > > Ra > > 29 Ar 54 > > Ke > > 29 Li 54 > > > > Thanks > Bala > > > > Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2?/min or less. > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 7, 2006 Dear Bala, Namaskar, In my earlier mail I had solved the marriage timing. Now I am giving you the profession of native. According to chart the native is doing service with a fixed salary. His job may be related to computer technology or he may be a teacher or professor. He might be advocate also.Now a days he is doing well. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra bala sosale <bsosale wrote: Dear all, For the same chart find out all the sd's and explain in details as why they are sd's. This will be a good excercise for new comers. Here are the details Male 13th July 1966 8.25 PM , Pune India 18N32, 73E52 IST -5.30. Planet Degrees As 17 Cp 34 Su 28 Ge 16 Mo 29 Ar 25 Ma 9 Ge 11 Me 18 Cn 52 Ju 22 Ge 25 Ve 27 Ta 50 SaR 7 Pi 12 Ra 29 Ar 54 Ke 29 Li 54 Thanks Bala Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 8, 2006 Dear List members, Here is actual date of Marriage. 18th Feb 1992 happens to be in Ra/Jupiter antra 2 PDF Saturn and Mars. Congrats to Gita for getting the correct antra and sector. Congrats to Ash, Manoshi and Harjeet for getting the antra right. I think Harjeet changed period later. Thanks to Xavier and Ramesh for trying this. Hope I did not miss any other names who participated. Please post your analysis so others can learn from this. To continue further analysis on this chart please analyse the following. 1. Child birth 2. What is the current problem area for this Native? Regards Bala Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click on FareChase Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 8, 2006 Dear Bala, Gita, Manoshi, Ramesh and Xavier and List Members, Bala, thank you for posting this puzzle. Congratz to Gita for her perfect analysis. Gita it will be nice to read how u approach the chart and came to the perfect conclusion. It will be a good learning experience for many. Congratz to all who have attempted this puzzle. Cheers !!! Ash , bala sosale <bsosale wrote: > > Dear List members, > > Here is actual date of Marriage. > > 18th Feb 1992 happens to be in Ra/Jupiter antra 2 PDF Saturn and Mars. > > Congrats to Gita for getting the correct antra and sector. > > Congrats to Ash, Manoshi and Harjeet for getting the antra right. I think Harjeet changed > period later. > > Thanks to Xavier and Ramesh for trying this. Hope I did not miss any other names who > participated. > > Please post your analysis so others can learn from this. > > To continue further analysis on this chart please analyse the following. > > 1. Child birth > 2. What is the current problem area for this Native? > > > Regards > Bala > > > > Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click on FareChase > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 8, 2006 congrats Gita for the correct analysis. regards harjeet , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear Bala, Gita, Manoshi, Ramesh and Xavier and List Members, > Bala, thank you for posting this puzzle. > Congratz to Gita for her perfect analysis. Gita it will be nice to > read how u approach the chart and came to the perfect conclusion. > It will be a good learning experience for many. > Congratz to all who have attempted this puzzle. > Cheers !!! > Ash > , bala sosale > <bsosale@> wrote: > > > > Dear List members, > > > > Here is actual date of Marriage. > > > > 18th Feb 1992 happens to be in Ra/Jupiter antra 2 PDF > Saturn and Mars. > > > > Congrats to Gita for getting the correct antra and sector. > > > > Congrats to Ash, Manoshi and Harjeet for getting the antra > right. I think Harjeet changed > > period later. > > > > Thanks to Xavier and Ramesh for trying this. Hope I did not > miss any other names who > > participated. > > > > Please post your analysis so others can learn from this. > > > > To continue further analysis on this chart please analyse > the following. > > > > 1. Child birth > > 2. What is the current problem area for this Native? > > > > > > Regards > > Bala > > > > > > > > Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click on > FareChase > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 8, 2006 Dear Bala, Ash, Manoshi, Ramesh, Harjeet, Xavier and others, Here's my detailed analysis: There is Jupiter delay in Navamsa. Jupiter delay is nullified by lord of 1 and lord of 9 being in 5:9 placement Native completes 21 years in July 1987 when he is running Moon antra Moon antra is powerful with 18 points and could have given marriage but there is a zero in SAV table. So I considered an additional 10% delay. This delay ends somewhere around July 1989 when the native is in Sun Antra. Since there are many indications of unhappy marriage in the chart, I considered sun antra too as pointed out by Ramesh But Sun is in 6th house which is 12th from house 7. So sun is debilated and also doesn't have enough power for marriage The next antra Jupiter is LoE and has good points in the worksheet. So I chose this antra for marriage Again a zero in the SAV pushed the marriage to the second antra. I hope my analysis is in line. Thank you for posting the chart Bala. Thanks for the wishes everyone!! Gita , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear Bala, Gita, Manoshi, Ramesh and Xavier and List Members, > Bala, thank you for posting this puzzle. > Congratz to Gita for her perfect analysis. Gita it will be nice to > read how u approach the chart and came to the perfect conclusion. > It will be a good learning experience for many. > Congratz to all who have attempted this puzzle. > Cheers !!! > Ash > , bala sosale > <bsosale@> wrote: > > > > Dear List members, > > > > Here is actual date of Marriage. > > > > 18th Feb 1992 happens to be in Ra/Jupiter antra 2 PDF > Saturn and Mars. > > > > Congrats to Gita for getting the correct antra and sector. > > > > Congrats to Ash, Manoshi and Harjeet for getting the antra > right. I think Harjeet changed > > period later. > > > > Thanks to Xavier and Ramesh for trying this. Hope I did not > miss any other names who > > participated. > > > > Please post your analysis so others can learn from this. > > > > To continue further analysis on this chart please analyse > the following. > > > > 1. Child birth > > 2. What is the current problem area for this Native? > > > > > > Regards > > Bala > > > > > > > > Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click on > FareChase > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 8, 2006 Dear Gita, Bala and all, O-Oh, I overlooked to consider the Zero in SAV for picking the right sector. Thanks Gita, I need to be more thorough ........ I enjoyed reading your approach. Perfectly in line. Cheers !!! Ash , " kaslearner " <kaslearner wrote: > > Dear Bala, Ash, Manoshi, Ramesh, Harjeet, Xavier and others, > > Here's my detailed analysis: > > There is Jupiter delay in Navamsa. Jupiter delay is nullified by lord > of 1 and lord of 9 being in 5:9 placement > > Native completes 21 years in July 1987 when he is running Moon antra > Moon antra is powerful with 18 points and could have given marriage > but there is a zero in SAV table. So I considered an additional 10% > delay. > > This delay ends somewhere around July 1989 when the native is in Sun > Antra. > > Since there are many indications of unhappy marriage in the chart, I > considered sun antra too as pointed out by Ramesh > > But Sun is in 6th house which is 12th from house 7. So sun is > debilated and also doesn't have enough power for marriage > > The next antra Jupiter is LoE and has good points in the worksheet. > So I chose this antra for marriage > > Again a zero in the SAV pushed the marriage to the second antra. > I hope my analysis is in line. > > Thank you for posting the chart Bala. Thanks for the wishes everyone!! > > Gita > > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > Dear Bala, Gita, Manoshi, Ramesh and Xavier and List Members, > > Bala, thank you for posting this puzzle. > > Congratz to Gita for her perfect analysis. Gita it will be nice to > > read how u approach the chart and came to the perfect conclusion. > > It will be a good learning experience for many. > > Congratz to all who have attempted this puzzle. > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > , bala sosale > > <bsosale@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear List members, > > > > > > Here is actual date of Marriage. > > > > > > 18th Feb 1992 happens to be in Ra/Jupiter antra 2 PDF > > Saturn and Mars. > > > > > > Congrats to Gita for getting the correct antra and sector. > > > > > > Congrats to Ash, Manoshi and Harjeet for getting the antra > > right. I think Harjeet changed > > > period later. > > > > > > Thanks to Xavier and Ramesh for trying this. Hope I did not > > miss any other names who > > > participated. > > > > > > Please post your analysis so others can learn from this. > > > > > > To continue further analysis on this chart please analyse > > the following. > > > > > > 1. Child birth > > > 2. What is the current problem area for this Native? > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > Bala > > > > > > > > > > > > Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click on > > > FareChase > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 8, 2006 Dear Gita, I agree with Ash about the explanation arriving at the correct antra and sector. Great analysis! Good work. Regards Bala New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 8, 2006 thanks very much Gita and list members for detailed approach and exercise, I got to learn more here. i assumed that the delay caused by zero is also cancelled because of position of lord of 1 and 9 in 5:9... but its not so. great learning for me. i know its very stupid but still confused about the following about saturn dealy: e.g. 1. Saturn is lord of A in rasi and aspecting C. and say its the lord of B in navamsa. in this senario would saturn be giving delay. as i have seen A,B and C connected to saturn combined in rasi and navamsa. ? 2. and other thing... if saturn is lord of D or E then the delay is modified and event would occur in the 1st sector after satrun reaches 0 degree of the previous sign.? so even if saturn in lord of D or E the delay of saturn is still to be considered till the time it reaches 0 degree of the previous sign. only the event would occur in the 1st sector itself. 3. same is the thing if jupiter also aspects the lord of A, B and C all of them... the event occurs in the 1st sector after 0 degree previous sign thingy. ? 4. the delay of saturn is altogether cancelled bring the age of marriage for male to 21 and female to 18 if lord of 1 and 9 are only in 5:9 position... neither conjunction nor opposition. If anyone one can tell me all the 4 points are correct ? 5. Also curious about the lord of 1 and 3 in 3:11 positioning... does it count in cancelling the delay ? 6. Check on venus by jupiter cannot function if jupiter is in libra in rasi or navamsa. or jupiter is in saturn sign or nakshatra. 7. does jupiter also checks any spoiling if its having exactly 4 points.. as it would be neutral. 8. when we overlap the charts and see the aspects of rahu, venus etc for attraction ... the aspects and positons are seen from the bhava or rashis or both? E.g. rahu in asc. in lagna of male is trine to venus of female in 5th house. now rahu aspects 5th house...so here rahu would be aspecting venus and hence some attraction? thanks/regards harjeet , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear Gita, Bala and all, > > O-Oh, I overlooked to consider the Zero in SAV for picking the right > sector. Thanks Gita, I need to be more thorough ........ > > I enjoyed reading your approach. Perfectly in line. > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , " kaslearner " > <kaslearner@> wrote: > > > > Dear Bala, Ash, Manoshi, Ramesh, Harjeet, Xavier and others, > > > > Here's my detailed analysis: > > > > There is Jupiter delay in Navamsa. Jupiter delay is nullified by > lord > > of 1 and lord of 9 being in 5:9 placement > > > > Native completes 21 years in July 1987 when he is running Moon > antra > > Moon antra is powerful with 18 points and could have given > marriage > > but there is a zero in SAV table. So I considered an additional > 10% > > delay. > > > > This delay ends somewhere around July 1989 when the native is in > Sun > > Antra. > > > > Since there are many indications of unhappy marriage in the chart, > I > > considered sun antra too as pointed out by Ramesh > > > > But Sun is in 6th house which is 12th from house 7. So sun is > > debilated and also doesn't have enough power for marriage > > > > The next antra Jupiter is LoE and has good points in the > worksheet. > > So I chose this antra for marriage > > > > Again a zero in the SAV pushed the marriage to the second antra. > > I hope my analysis is in line. > > > > Thank you for posting the chart Bala. Thanks for the wishes > everyone!! > > > > Gita > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bala, Gita, Manoshi, Ramesh and Xavier and List Members, > > > Bala, thank you for posting this puzzle. > > > Congratz to Gita for her perfect analysis. Gita it will be nice > to > > > read how u approach the chart and came to the perfect > conclusion. > > > It will be a good learning experience for many. > > > Congratz to all who have attempted this puzzle. > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > , bala sosale > > > <bsosale@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear List members, > > > > > > > > Here is actual date of Marriage. > > > > > > > > 18th Feb 1992 happens to be in Ra/Jupiter antra 2 PDF > > > Saturn and Mars. > > > > > > > > Congrats to Gita for getting the correct antra and > sector. > > > > > > > > Congrats to Ash, Manoshi and Harjeet for getting the > antra > > > right. I think Harjeet changed > > > > period later. > > > > > > > > Thanks to Xavier and Ramesh for trying this. Hope I did > not > > > miss any other names who > > > > participated. > > > > > > > > Please post your analysis so others can learn from this. > > > > > > > > To continue further analysis on this chart please > analyse > > > the following. > > > > > > > > 1. Child birth > > > > 2. What is the current problem area for this Native? > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Bala > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click on > > > > > FareChase > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 8, 2006 Dear Harjeet and List Members, Very good questions indeed and good chruning of your thoughts. I hope list members take part in a discussion helping u by sharing their understanding. If there are more discussion like these, many things can get cleared. If there is a chart with known data to support your query, even better. Please discuss each point, and in the process so many things will get cleared. Cheers !!! Ash , " harjeet_bakshi " <harjeet_bakshi wrote: > > thanks very much Gita and list members for detailed approach and exercise, > I got to learn more here. i assumed that the delay caused by zero is > also cancelled because of position of lord of 1 and 9 in 5:9... but > its not so. great learning for me. > > i know its very stupid but still confused about the following about > saturn dealy: > e.g. > 1. Saturn is lord of A in rasi and aspecting C. and say its the lord > of B in navamsa. in this senario would saturn be giving delay. as i > have seen A,B and C connected to saturn combined in rasi and navamsa. ? > > 2. and other thing... if saturn is lord of D or E then the delay is > modified and event would occur in the 1st sector after satrun reaches > 0 degree of the previous sign.? so even if saturn in lord of D or E > the delay of saturn is still to be considered till the time it reaches > 0 degree of the previous sign. only the event would occur in the 1st > sector itself. > > 3. same is the thing if jupiter also aspects the lord of A, B and C > all of them... the event occurs in the 1st sector after 0 degree > previous sign thingy. ? > > 4. the delay of saturn is altogether cancelled bring the age of > marriage for male to 21 and female to 18 if lord of 1 and 9 are only > in 5:9 position... neither conjunction nor opposition. > > If anyone one can tell me all the 4 points are correct ? > > 5. Also curious about the lord of 1 and 3 in 3:11 positioning... does > it count in cancelling the delay ? > > 6. Check on venus by jupiter cannot function if jupiter is in libra in > rasi or navamsa. or jupiter is in saturn sign or nakshatra. > > 7. does jupiter also checks any spoiling if its having exactly 4 > points.. as it would be neutral. > > 8. when we overlap the charts and see the aspects of rahu, venus etc > for attraction ... the aspects and positons are seen from the bhava or > rashis or both? > > E.g. rahu in asc. in lagna of male is trine to venus of female in 5th > house. now rahu aspects 5th house...so here rahu would be aspecting > venus and hence some attraction? > > thanks/regards > harjeet > > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > Dear Gita, Bala and all, > > > > O-Oh, I overlooked to consider the Zero in SAV for picking the right > > sector. Thanks Gita, I need to be more thorough ........ > > > > I enjoyed reading your approach. Perfectly in line. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > , " kaslearner " > > <kaslearner@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bala, Ash, Manoshi, Ramesh, Harjeet, Xavier and others, > > > > > > Here's my detailed analysis: > > > > > > There is Jupiter delay in Navamsa. Jupiter delay is nullified by > > lord > > > of 1 and lord of 9 being in 5:9 placement > > > > > > Native completes 21 years in July 1987 when he is running Moon > > antra > > > Moon antra is powerful with 18 points and could have given > > marriage > > > but there is a zero in SAV table. So I considered an additional > > 10% > > > delay. > > > > > > This delay ends somewhere around July 1989 when the native is in > > Sun > > > Antra. > > > > > > Since there are many indications of unhappy marriage in the chart, > > I > > > considered sun antra too as pointed out by Ramesh > > > > > > But Sun is in 6th house which is 12th from house 7. So sun is > > > debilated and also doesn't have enough power for marriage > > > > > > The next antra Jupiter is LoE and has good points in the > > worksheet. > > > So I chose this antra for marriage > > > > > > Again a zero in the SAV pushed the marriage to the second antra. > > > I hope my analysis is in line. > > > > > > Thank you for posting the chart Bala. Thanks for the wishes > > everyone!! > > > > > > Gita > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Gita, Manoshi, Ramesh and Xavier and List Members, > > > > Bala, thank you for posting this puzzle. > > > > Congratz to Gita for her perfect analysis. Gita it will be nice > > to > > > > read how u approach the chart and came to the perfect > > conclusion. > > > > It will be a good learning experience for many. > > > > Congratz to all who have attempted this puzzle. > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash > > > > , bala sosale > > > > <bsosale@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear List members, > > > > > > > > > > Here is actual date of Marriage. > > > > > > > > > > 18th Feb 1992 happens to be in Ra/Jupiter antra 2 PDF > > > > Saturn and Mars. > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Gita for getting the correct antra and > > sector. > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Ash, Manoshi and Harjeet for getting the > > antra > > > > right. I think Harjeet changed > > > > > period later. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks to Xavier and Ramesh for trying this. Hope I did > > not > > > > miss any other names who > > > > > participated. > > > > > > > > > > Please post your analysis so others can learn from this. > > > > > > > > > > To continue further analysis on this chart please > > analyse > > > > the following. > > > > > > > > > > 1. Child birth > > > > > 2. What is the current problem area for this Native? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Bala > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click on > > > > > > > FareChase > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 8, 2006 Dear Astrologers, I am a new member and following most of the emails of the group. If you need to analyze some charts with known data, I volunteer my birth data to be analyzed for marriage date. My birth data is 18Nov1944, 20:38 (IST), 70E27, 21N44. I have been married only once. Can anyone figure out my marriage date ? With Regards, Pratap ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Harjeet and List Members, Very good questions indeed and good chruning of your thoughts. I hope list members take part in a discussion helping u by sharing their understanding. If there are more discussion like these, many things can get cleared. If there is a chart with known data to support your query, even better. Please discuss each point, and in the process so many things will get cleared. Cheers !!! Ash , " harjeet_bakshi " wrote: > > thanks very much Gita and list members for detailed approach and exercise, > I got to learn more here. i assumed that the delay caused by zero is > also cancelled because of position of lord of 1 and 9 in 5:9... but > its not so. great learning for me. > > i know its very stupid but still confused about the following about > saturn dealy: > e.g. > 1. Saturn is lord of A in rasi and aspecting C. and say its the lord > of B in navamsa. in this senario would saturn be giving delay. as i > have seen A,B and C connected to saturn combined in rasi and navamsa. ? > > 2. and other thing... if saturn is lord of D or E then the delay is > modified and event would occur in the 1st sector after satrun reaches > 0 degree of the previous sign.? so even if saturn in lord of D or E > the delay of saturn is still to be considered till the time it reaches > 0 degree of the previous sign. only the event would occur in the 1st > sector itself. > > 3. same is the thing if jupiter also aspects the lord of A, B and C > all of them... the event occurs in the 1st sector after 0 degree > previous sign thingy. ? > > 4. the delay of saturn is altogether cancelled bring the age of > marriage for male to 21 and female to 18 if lord of 1 and 9 are only > in 5:9 position... neither conjunction nor opposition. > > If anyone one can tell me all the 4 points are correct ? > > 5. Also curious about the lord of 1 and 3 in 3:11 positioning... does > it count in cancelling the delay ? > > 6. Check on venus by jupiter cannot function if jupiter is in libra in > rasi or navamsa. or jupiter is in saturn sign or nakshatra. > > 7. does jupiter also checks any spoiling if its having exactly 4 > points.. as it would be neutral. > > 8. when we overlap the charts and see the aspects of rahu, venus etc > for attraction ... the aspects and positons are seen from the bhava or > rashis or both? > > E.g. rahu in asc. in lagna of male is trine to venus of female in 5th > house. now rahu aspects 5th house...so here rahu would be aspecting > venus and hence some attraction? > > thanks/regards > harjeet > > , " ashsam73 " > wrote: > > > > Dear Gita, Bala and all, > > > > O-Oh, I overlooked to consider the Zero in SAV for picking the right > > sector. Thanks Gita, I need to be more thorough ........ > > > > I enjoyed reading your approach. Perfectly in line. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > , " kaslearner " > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bala, Ash, Manoshi, Ramesh, Harjeet, Xavier and others, > > > > > > Here's my detailed analysis: > > > > > > There is Jupiter delay in Navamsa. Jupiter delay is nullified by > > lord > > > of 1 and lord of 9 being in 5:9 placement > > > > > > Native completes 21 years in July 1987 when he is running Moon > > antra > > > Moon antra is powerful with 18 points and could have given > > marriage > > > but there is a zero in SAV table. So I considered an additional > > 10% > > > delay. > > > > > > This delay ends somewhere around July 1989 when the native is in > > Sun > > > Antra. > > > > > > Since there are many indications of unhappy marriage in the chart, > > I > > > considered sun antra too as pointed out by Ramesh > > > > > > But Sun is in 6th house which is 12th from house 7. So sun is > > > debilated and also doesn't have enough power for marriage > > > > > > The next antra Jupiter is LoE and has good points in the > > worksheet. > > > So I chose this antra for marriage > > > > > > Again a zero in the SAV pushed the marriage to the second antra. > > > I hope my analysis is in line. > > > > > > Thank you for posting the chart Bala. Thanks for the wishes > > everyone!! > > > > > > Gita > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Gita, Manoshi, Ramesh and Xavier and List Members, > > > > Bala, thank you for posting this puzzle. > > > > Congratz to Gita for her perfect analysis. Gita it will be nice > > to > > > > read how u approach the chart and came to the perfect > > conclusion. > > > > It will be a good learning experience for many. > > > > Congratz to all who have attempted this puzzle. > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash > > > > , bala sosale > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear List members, > > > > > > > > > > Here is actual date of Marriage. > > > > > > > > > > 18th Feb 1992 happens to be in Ra/Jupiter antra 2 PDF > > > > Saturn and Mars. > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Gita for getting the correct antra and > > sector. > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Ash, Manoshi and Harjeet for getting the > > antra > > > > right. I think Harjeet changed > > > > > period later. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks to Xavier and Ramesh for trying this. Hope I did > > not > > > > miss any other names who > > > > > participated. > > > > > > > > > > Please post your analysis so others can learn from this. > > > > > > > > > > To continue further analysis on this chart please > > analyse > > > > the following. > > > > > > > > > > 1. Child birth > > > > > 2. What is the current problem area for this Native? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Bala > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click on > > > > > > > FareChase > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 8, 2006 Pratapji, I am learning KAS, but would like to attempt your chart. There is delay caused by saturn and jupiter aspects lord of A and B too. i am not too sure to add jupiter dealy along with saturn or not...but i would take jupiter modulates the dealy giving the result in 1st sector of saturn antra in sun mahadasha which would be from oct'1971 to around jan '1972. there are no zeores and 1 and 9 lords not in 5:9. jupiter is in house D with 6 points. marriage may be possible in the jupiter antra too but saturn changes the sign in april 1971... hence i am not too sure but would go for the next antra of saturn. thanks/regards harjeet , Pratap Kaneria <pkaneria wrote: > > Dear Astrologers, > > I am a new member and following most of the emails of the group. If you need to analyze some charts with known data, I volunteer my birth data to be analyzed for marriage date. > > My birth data is 18Nov1944, 20:38 (IST), 70E27, 21N44. > > I have been married only once. Can anyone figure out my marriage date ? > > With Regards, > > Pratap > > ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Harjeet and List Members, > Very good questions indeed and good chruning of your thoughts. > > I hope list members take part in a discussion helping u by sharing > their understanding. > > If there are more discussion like these, many things can get > cleared. If there is a chart with known data to support your query, > even better. > > Please discuss each point, and in the process so many things will > get cleared. > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > wrote: > > > > thanks very much Gita and list members for detailed approach and > exercise, > > I got to learn more here. i assumed that the delay caused by zero > is > > also cancelled because of position of lord of 1 and 9 in 5:9... but > > its not so. great learning for me. > > > > i know its very stupid but still confused about the following about > > saturn dealy: > > e.g. > > 1. Saturn is lord of A in rasi and aspecting C. and say its the > lord > > of B in navamsa. in this senario would saturn be giving delay. as i > > have seen A,B and C connected to saturn combined in rasi and > navamsa. ? > > > > 2. and other thing... if saturn is lord of D or E then the delay is > > modified and event would occur in the 1st sector after satrun > reaches > > 0 degree of the previous sign.? so even if saturn in lord of D or E > > the delay of saturn is still to be considered till the time it > reaches > > 0 degree of the previous sign. only the event would occur in the > 1st > > sector itself. > > > > 3. same is the thing if jupiter also aspects the lord of A, B and C > > all of them... the event occurs in the 1st sector after 0 degree > > previous sign thingy. ? > > > > 4. the delay of saturn is altogether cancelled bring the age of > > marriage for male to 21 and female to 18 if lord of 1 and 9 are > only > > in 5:9 position... neither conjunction nor opposition. > > > > If anyone one can tell me all the 4 points are correct ? > > > > 5. Also curious about the lord of 1 and 3 in 3:11 positioning... > does > > it count in cancelling the delay ? > > > > 6. Check on venus by jupiter cannot function if jupiter is in > libra in > > rasi or navamsa. or jupiter is in saturn sign or nakshatra. > > > > 7. does jupiter also checks any spoiling if its having exactly 4 > > points.. as it would be neutral. > > > > 8. when we overlap the charts and see the aspects of rahu, venus > etc > > for attraction ... the aspects and positons are seen from the > bhava or > > rashis or both? > > > > E.g. rahu in asc. in lagna of male is trine to venus of female in > 5th > > house. now rahu aspects 5th house...so here rahu would be aspecting > > venus and hence some attraction? > > > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Gita, Bala and all, > > > > > > O-Oh, I overlooked to consider the Zero in SAV for picking the > right > > > sector. Thanks Gita, I need to be more thorough ........ > > > > > > I enjoyed reading your approach. Perfectly in line. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > , " kaslearner " > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Ash, Manoshi, Ramesh, Harjeet, Xavier and others, > > > > > > > > Here's my detailed analysis: > > > > > > > > There is Jupiter delay in Navamsa. Jupiter delay is nullified > by > > > lord > > > > of 1 and lord of 9 being in 5:9 placement > > > > > > > > Native completes 21 years in July 1987 when he is running Moon > > > antra > > > > Moon antra is powerful with 18 points and could have given > > > marriage > > > > but there is a zero in SAV table. So I considered an > additional > > > 10% > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > This delay ends somewhere around July 1989 when the native is > in > > > Sun > > > > Antra. > > > > > > > > Since there are many indications of unhappy marriage in the > chart, > > > I > > > > considered sun antra too as pointed out by Ramesh > > > > > > > > But Sun is in 6th house which is 12th from house 7. So sun is > > > > debilated and also doesn't have enough power for marriage > > > > > > > > The next antra Jupiter is LoE and has good points in the > > > worksheet. > > > > So I chose this antra for marriage > > > > > > > > Again a zero in the SAV pushed the marriage to the second > antra. > > > > I hope my analysis is in line. > > > > > > > > Thank you for posting the chart Bala. Thanks for the wishes > > > everyone!! > > > > > > > > Gita > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Gita, Manoshi, Ramesh and Xavier and List Members, > > > > > Bala, thank you for posting this puzzle. > > > > > Congratz to Gita for her perfect analysis. Gita it will be > nice > > > to > > > > > read how u approach the chart and came to the perfect > > > conclusion. > > > > > It will be a good learning experience for many. > > > > > Congratz to all who have attempted this puzzle. > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash > > > > > , bala sosale > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List members, > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is actual date of Marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > 18th Feb 1992 happens to be in Ra/Jupiter antra 2 > PDF > > > > > Saturn and Mars. > > > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Gita for getting the correct antra and > > > sector. > > > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Ash, Manoshi and Harjeet for getting the > > > antra > > > > > right. I think Harjeet changed > > > > > > period later. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks to Xavier and Ramesh for trying this. Hope I > did > > > not > > > > > miss any other names who > > > > > > participated. > > > > > > > > > > > > Please post your analysis so others can learn from > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > To continue further analysis on this chart please > > > analyse > > > > > the following. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Child birth > > > > > > 2. What is the current problem area for this Native? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Bala > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click > on > > > > > > > > > FareChase > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 8, 2006 Dear Ash, Harjeet and others, Here's my attempt at Harjeet's questions. > 1. Saturn is lord of A in rasi and aspecting C. and say its the lord > of B in navamsa. in this senario would saturn be giving delay. as i > have seen A,B and C connected to saturn combined in rasi and navamsa. ? No. We consider saturn delay from either Rasi or Navamsa. We don't combine delay due to aspect from A & C in Rasi and B in Navamsa. 2. and other thing... if saturn is lord of D or E then the delay is modified and event would occur in the 1st sector after satrun reaches 0 degree of the previous sign.? so even if saturn in lord of D or E the delay of saturn is still to be considered till the time it reaches 0 degree of the previous sign. only the event would occur in the 1st sector itself. Yes, delay of saturn will always be considered before timing the event unless the delay is nullified or moderated. > > 3. same is the thing if jupiter also aspects the lord of A, B and C > all of them... the event occurs in the 1st sector after 0 degree > previous sign thingy. ? Same answer as above. Delay should get over first. But Jupiter delay gets over when it enters the SAME sign after two rounds not previous sign as you mentioned! > 4. the delay of saturn is altogether cancelled bring the age of > marriage for male to 21 and female to 18 if lord of 1 and 9 are only > in 5:9 position... neither conjunction nor opposition. If saturn delay is nullified the basic age reduces to 18 for female and 21 for male.. however the antra should also be favourable to give marriage. Also there should be no delay from Jupiter . > > If anyone one can tell me all the 4 points are correct ? > > 5. Also curious about the lord of 1 and 3 in 3:11 positioning... does it count in cancelling the delay ? No. Only 5:9 is considered. > 6. Check on venus by jupiter cannot function if jupiter is in libra in> rasi or navamsa. or jupiter is in saturn sign or nakshatra. Yes. Sight of spoiled Jupiter cannot check Venus or Saturn. > 7. does jupiter also checks any spoiling if its having exactly 4 > points.. as it would be neutral. I am not sure of this one. But I guess Yes?? > > 8. when we overlap the charts and see the aspects of rahu, venus etc > for attraction ... the aspects and positons are seen from the bhava or rashis or both? E.g. rahu in asc. in lagna of male is trine to venus of female in 5th house. now rahu aspects 5th house...so here rahu would be aspecting venus and hence some attraction? I don't understand this question !! Regards Gita > > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > Dear Gita, Bala and all, > > > > O-Oh, I overlooked to consider the Zero in SAV for picking the right > > sector. Thanks Gita, I need to be more thorough ........ > > > > I enjoyed reading your approach. Perfectly in line. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > , " kaslearner " > > <kaslearner@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bala, Ash, Manoshi, Ramesh, Harjeet, Xavier and others, > > > > > > Here's my detailed analysis: > > > > > > There is Jupiter delay in Navamsa. Jupiter delay is nullified by > > lord > > > of 1 and lord of 9 being in 5:9 placement > > > > > > Native completes 21 years in July 1987 when he is running Moon > > antra > > > Moon antra is powerful with 18 points and could have given > > marriage > > > but there is a zero in SAV table. So I considered an additional > > 10% > > > delay. > > > > > > This delay ends somewhere around July 1989 when the native is in > > Sun > > > Antra. > > > > > > Since there are many indications of unhappy marriage in the chart, > > I > > > considered sun antra too as pointed out by Ramesh > > > > > > But Sun is in 6th house which is 12th from house 7. So sun is > > > debilated and also doesn't have enough power for marriage > > > > > > The next antra Jupiter is LoE and has good points in the > > worksheet. > > > So I chose this antra for marriage > > > > > > Again a zero in the SAV pushed the marriage to the second antra. > > > I hope my analysis is in line. > > > > > > Thank you for posting the chart Bala. Thanks for the wishes > > everyone!! > > > > > > Gita > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Gita, Manoshi, Ramesh and Xavier and List Members, > > > > Bala, thank you for posting this puzzle. > > > > Congratz to Gita for her perfect analysis. Gita it will be nice > > to > > > > read how u approach the chart and came to the perfect > > conclusion. > > > > It will be a good learning experience for many. > > > > Congratz to all who have attempted this puzzle. > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash > > > > , bala sosale > > > > <bsosale@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear List members, > > > > > > > > > > Here is actual date of Marriage. > > > > > > > > > > 18th Feb 1992 happens to be in Ra/Jupiter antra 2 PDF > > > > Saturn and Mars. > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Gita for getting the correct antra and > > sector. > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Ash, Manoshi and Harjeet for getting the > > antra > > > > right. I think Harjeet changed > > > > > period later. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks to Xavier and Ramesh for trying this. Hope I did > > not > > > > miss any other names who > > > > > participated. > > > > > > > > > > Please post your analysis so others can learn from this. > > > > > > > > > > To continue further analysis on this chart please > > analyse > > > > the following. > > > > > > > > > > 1. Child birth > > > > > 2. What is the current problem area for this Native? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Bala > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click on > > > > > > > FareChase > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 8, 2006 thanks very much Gita for your answers. i really appreciate it. i just attempted a chart taking considering the combination of rasi and navamsa... thanks again for clearing first 4 points which were very fundamental and basic for you but extremely important for me. regards harjeet , " kaslearner " <kaslearner wrote: > > Dear Ash, Harjeet and others, > > Here's my attempt at Harjeet's questions. > > > 1. Saturn is lord of A in rasi and aspecting C. and say its the lord > > of B in navamsa. in this senario would saturn be giving delay. as i > > have seen A,B and C connected to saturn combined in rasi and > navamsa. ? > > No. We consider saturn delay from either Rasi or Navamsa. We don't > combine delay due to aspect from A & C in Rasi and B in Navamsa. > > 2. and other thing... if saturn is lord of D or E then the delay is > modified and event would occur in the 1st sector after satrun reaches > 0 degree of the previous sign.? so even if saturn in lord of D or E > the delay of saturn is still to be considered till the time it > reaches 0 degree of the previous sign. only the event would occur in > the 1st sector itself. > > Yes, delay of saturn will always be considered before timing the > event unless the delay is nullified or moderated. > > > > 3. same is the thing if jupiter also aspects the lord of A, B and C > > all of them... the event occurs in the 1st sector after 0 degree > > previous sign thingy. ? > > Same answer as above. Delay should get over first. But Jupiter delay > gets over when it enters the SAME sign after two rounds not previous > sign as you mentioned! > > > 4. the delay of saturn is altogether cancelled bring the age of > > marriage for male to 21 and female to 18 if lord of 1 and 9 are only > > in 5:9 position... neither conjunction nor opposition. > > If saturn delay is nullified the basic age reduces to 18 for female > and 21 for male.. however the antra should also be favourable to give > marriage. Also there should be no delay from Jupiter . > > > > > If anyone one can tell me all the 4 points are correct ? > > > > 5. Also curious about the lord of 1 and 3 in 3:11 positioning... > does it count in cancelling the delay ? > No. Only 5:9 is considered. > > > 6. Check on venus by jupiter cannot function if jupiter is in libra > in> rasi or navamsa. or jupiter is in saturn sign or nakshatra. > Yes. Sight of spoiled Jupiter cannot check Venus or Saturn. > > > > 7. does jupiter also checks any spoiling if its having exactly 4 > > points.. as it would be neutral. > I am not sure of this one. But I guess Yes?? > > > > 8. when we overlap the charts and see the aspects of rahu, venus etc > > for attraction ... the aspects and positons are seen from the bhava > or rashis or both? > > E.g. rahu in asc. in lagna of male is trine to venus of female in 5th > house. now rahu aspects 5th house...so here rahu would be aspecting > venus and hence some attraction? > > I don't understand this question !! > > Regards > Gita > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Gita, Bala and all, > > > > > > O-Oh, I overlooked to consider the Zero in SAV for picking the > right > > > sector. Thanks Gita, I need to be more thorough ........ > > > > > > I enjoyed reading your approach. Perfectly in line. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > , " kaslearner " > > > <kaslearner@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Ash, Manoshi, Ramesh, Harjeet, Xavier and others, > > > > > > > > Here's my detailed analysis: > > > > > > > > There is Jupiter delay in Navamsa. Jupiter delay is nullified > by > > > lord > > > > of 1 and lord of 9 being in 5:9 placement > > > > > > > > Native completes 21 years in July 1987 when he is running Moon > > > antra > > > > Moon antra is powerful with 18 points and could have given > > > marriage > > > > but there is a zero in SAV table. So I considered an additional > > > 10% > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > This delay ends somewhere around July 1989 when the native is > in > > > Sun > > > > Antra. > > > > > > > > Since there are many indications of unhappy marriage in the > chart, > > > I > > > > considered sun antra too as pointed out by Ramesh > > > > > > > > But Sun is in 6th house which is 12th from house 7. So sun is > > > > debilated and also doesn't have enough power for marriage > > > > > > > > The next antra Jupiter is LoE and has good points in the > > > worksheet. > > > > So I chose this antra for marriage > > > > > > > > Again a zero in the SAV pushed the marriage to the second antra. > > > > I hope my analysis is in line. > > > > > > > > Thank you for posting the chart Bala. Thanks for the wishes > > > everyone!! > > > > > > > > Gita > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Gita, Manoshi, Ramesh and Xavier and List Members, > > > > > Bala, thank you for posting this puzzle. > > > > > Congratz to Gita for her perfect analysis. Gita it will be > nice > > > to > > > > > read how u approach the chart and came to the perfect > > > conclusion. > > > > > It will be a good learning experience for many. > > > > > Congratz to all who have attempted this puzzle. > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash > > > > > , bala sosale > > > > > <bsosale@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List members, > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is actual date of Marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > 18th Feb 1992 happens to be in Ra/Jupiter antra 2 > PDF > > > > > Saturn and Mars. > > > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Gita for getting the correct antra and > > > sector. > > > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Ash, Manoshi and Harjeet for getting the > > > antra > > > > > right. I think Harjeet changed > > > > > > period later. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks to Xavier and Ramesh for trying this. Hope I > did > > > not > > > > > miss any other names who > > > > > > participated. > > > > > > > > > > > > Please post your analysis so others can learn from > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > To continue further analysis on this chart please > > > analyse > > > > > the following. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Child birth > > > > > > 2. What is the current problem area for this Native? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Bala > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click on > > > > > > > > > FareChase > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 8, 2006 Pratapji, After getting clarifications on some of my doubts... i want to reattempt and consider the dealy of jupiter in your navamsa chart... which gets over around 24 years. no dealy from saturn. i am tempted to go for moon the samdhari for venus which is strong significator and lord of E... but i would pass as venus adn moon both are aspected by rahu and saturn(although benefic sight). mars cant give marriage in its antra being 12th lord from 7th house and in 6th house itself. rahu is samdhari for jupiter which is also a strong significator having 6 points. being in 1/7 axis i am reluctant to go for rahu antra too. next is jupiter antra which i am tempted to go for as it not only has 6 points so would give result of the 4th house which happens to be the house B for marriage but it also the samdhari for saturn which has the most points in worksheet for house 7. i might be wrong but its worth attempting and learning. thanks/regards harjeet , Pratap Kaneria <pkaneria wrote: > > Dear Astrologers, > > I am a new member and following most of the emails of the group. If you need to analyze some charts with known data, I volunteer my birth data to be analyzed for marriage date. > > My birth data is 18Nov1944, 20:38 (IST), 70E27, 21N44. > > I have been married only once. Can anyone figure out my marriage date ? > > With Regards, > > Pratap > > ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Harjeet and List Members, > Very good questions indeed and good chruning of your thoughts. > > I hope list members take part in a discussion helping u by sharing > their understanding. > > If there are more discussion like these, many things can get > cleared. If there is a chart with known data to support your query, > even better. > > Please discuss each point, and in the process so many things will > get cleared. > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > wrote: > > > > thanks very much Gita and list members for detailed approach and > exercise, > > I got to learn more here. i assumed that the delay caused by zero > is > > also cancelled because of position of lord of 1 and 9 in 5:9... but > > its not so. great learning for me. > > > > i know its very stupid but still confused about the following about > > saturn dealy: > > e.g. > > 1. Saturn is lord of A in rasi and aspecting C. and say its the > lord > > of B in navamsa. in this senario would saturn be giving delay. as i > > have seen A,B and C connected to saturn combined in rasi and > navamsa. ? > > > > 2. and other thing... if saturn is lord of D or E then the delay is > > modified and event would occur in the 1st sector after satrun > reaches > > 0 degree of the previous sign.? so even if saturn in lord of D or E > > the delay of saturn is still to be considered till the time it > reaches > > 0 degree of the previous sign. only the event would occur in the > 1st > > sector itself. > > > > 3. same is the thing if jupiter also aspects the lord of A, B and C > > all of them... the event occurs in the 1st sector after 0 degree > > previous sign thingy. ? > > > > 4. the delay of saturn is altogether cancelled bring the age of > > marriage for male to 21 and female to 18 if lord of 1 and 9 are > only > > in 5:9 position... neither conjunction nor opposition. > > > > If anyone one can tell me all the 4 points are correct ? > > > > 5. Also curious about the lord of 1 and 3 in 3:11 positioning... > does > > it count in cancelling the delay ? > > > > 6. Check on venus by jupiter cannot function if jupiter is in > libra in > > rasi or navamsa. or jupiter is in saturn sign or nakshatra. > > > > 7. does jupiter also checks any spoiling if its having exactly 4 > > points.. as it would be neutral. > > > > 8. when we overlap the charts and see the aspects of rahu, venus > etc > > for attraction ... the aspects and positons are seen from the > bhava or > > rashis or both? > > > > E.g. rahu in asc. in lagna of male is trine to venus of female in > 5th > > house. now rahu aspects 5th house...so here rahu would be aspecting > > venus and hence some attraction? > > > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Gita, Bala and all, > > > > > > O-Oh, I overlooked to consider the Zero in SAV for picking the > right > > > sector. Thanks Gita, I need to be more thorough ........ > > > > > > I enjoyed reading your approach. Perfectly in line. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > , " kaslearner " > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Ash, Manoshi, Ramesh, Harjeet, Xavier and others, > > > > > > > > Here's my detailed analysis: > > > > > > > > There is Jupiter delay in Navamsa. Jupiter delay is nullified > by > > > lord > > > > of 1 and lord of 9 being in 5:9 placement > > > > > > > > Native completes 21 years in July 1987 when he is running Moon > > > antra > > > > Moon antra is powerful with 18 points and could have given > > > marriage > > > > but there is a zero in SAV table. So I considered an > additional > > > 10% > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > This delay ends somewhere around July 1989 when the native is > in > > > Sun > > > > Antra. > > > > > > > > Since there are many indications of unhappy marriage in the > chart, > > > I > > > > considered sun antra too as pointed out by Ramesh > > > > > > > > But Sun is in 6th house which is 12th from house 7. So sun is > > > > debilated and also doesn't have enough power for marriage > > > > > > > > The next antra Jupiter is LoE and has good points in the > > > worksheet. > > > > So I chose this antra for marriage > > > > > > > > Again a zero in the SAV pushed the marriage to the second > antra. > > > > I hope my analysis is in line. > > > > > > > > Thank you for posting the chart Bala. Thanks for the wishes > > > everyone!! > > > > > > > > Gita > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Gita, Manoshi, Ramesh and Xavier and List Members, > > > > > Bala, thank you for posting this puzzle. > > > > > Congratz to Gita for her perfect analysis. Gita it will be > nice > > > to > > > > > read how u approach the chart and came to the perfect > > > conclusion. > > > > > It will be a good learning experience for many. > > > > > Congratz to all who have attempted this puzzle. > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash > > > > > , bala sosale > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List members, > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is actual date of Marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > 18th Feb 1992 happens to be in Ra/Jupiter antra 2 > PDF > > > > > Saturn and Mars. > > > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Gita for getting the correct antra and > > > sector. > > > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Ash, Manoshi and Harjeet for getting the > > > antra > > > > > right. I think Harjeet changed > > > > > > period later. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks to Xavier and Ramesh for trying this. Hope I > did > > > not > > > > > miss any other names who > > > > > > participated. > > > > > > > > > > > > Please post your analysis so others can learn from > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > To continue further analysis on this chart please > > > analyse > > > > > the following. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Child birth > > > > > > 2. What is the current problem area for this Native? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Bala > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click > on > > > > > > > > > FareChase > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 8, 2006 Dear Pratap, Before attempting this query. Can you give some events for us to verify your birth time. Can you confirm the following. 1) Is your profession linked to Sa, Ju, Sun. Something to do with soil, agriculture, oil, ju can means consultancy or teaching or advisory role, and sun could mean management or government and Shani can also mean people. So is your profesison linked to the same. 2) Did u face more expenses during Saturn 1997-Jan-24 thru 1999-Dec-01. 3) Did u face some toothaches or problems from collegues / work during Moon 1991-May-20 1991-Dec-19 4) Did u change jobs during or faced any health issues. Jupiter 1994-Aug-31 1997-Jan-24 5) You might hold good post if in job or might also do your own undertaking and business. 6) Very powerful times, here you might have taken some big undertaking or started some big project. You also might have travelled even overseas during this time. I wonder if u might have started your own business during this time. Nevertheless, this period is very powerful. Jupiter 1994-Aug-31 1997-Jan-24 Saturn 1997-Jan-24 1999-Dec-01 7) In Shani antra might give problems to your father health wise also Ju or Sa for mother. If you can comment on the same it will be good. Thanks, Cheers !!! Ash , Pratap Kaneria <pkaneria wrote: > > Dear Astrologers, > > I am a new member and following most of the emails of the group. If you need to analyze some charts with known data, I volunteer my birth data to be analyzed for marriage date. > > My birth data is 18Nov1944, 20:38 (IST), 70E27, 21N44. > > I have been married only once. Can anyone figure out my marriage date ? > > With Regards, > > Pratap > > ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Harjeet and List Members, > Very good questions indeed and good chruning of your thoughts. > > I hope list members take part in a discussion helping u by sharing > their understanding. > > If there are more discussion like these, many things can get > cleared. If there is a chart with known data to support your query, > even better. > > Please discuss each point, and in the process so many things will > get cleared. > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > wrote: > > > > thanks very much Gita and list members for detailed approach and > exercise, > > I got to learn more here. i assumed that the delay caused by zero > is > > also cancelled because of position of lord of 1 and 9 in 5:9... but > > its not so. great learning for me. > > > > i know its very stupid but still confused about the following about > > saturn dealy: > > e.g. > > 1. Saturn is lord of A in rasi and aspecting C. and say its the > lord > > of B in navamsa. in this senario would saturn be giving delay. as i > > have seen A,B and C connected to saturn combined in rasi and > navamsa. ? > > > > 2. and other thing... if saturn is lord of D or E then the delay is > > modified and event would occur in the 1st sector after satrun > reaches > > 0 degree of the previous sign.? so even if saturn in lord of D or E > > the delay of saturn is still to be considered till the time it > reaches > > 0 degree of the previous sign. only the event would occur in the > 1st > > sector itself. > > > > 3. same is the thing if jupiter also aspects the lord of A, B and C > > all of them... the event occurs in the 1st sector after 0 degree > > previous sign thingy. ? > > > > 4. the delay of saturn is altogether cancelled bring the age of > > marriage for male to 21 and female to 18 if lord of 1 and 9 are > only > > in 5:9 position... neither conjunction nor opposition. > > > > If anyone one can tell me all the 4 points are correct ? > > > > 5. Also curious about the lord of 1 and 3 in 3:11 positioning... > does > > it count in cancelling the delay ? > > > > 6. Check on venus by jupiter cannot function if jupiter is in > libra in > > rasi or navamsa. or jupiter is in saturn sign or nakshatra. > > > > 7. does jupiter also checks any spoiling if its having exactly 4 > > points.. as it would be neutral. > > > > 8. when we overlap the charts and see the aspects of rahu, venus > etc > > for attraction ... the aspects and positons are seen from the > bhava or > > rashis or both? > > > > E.g. rahu in asc. in lagna of male is trine to venus of female in > 5th > > house. now rahu aspects 5th house...so here rahu would be aspecting > > venus and hence some attraction? > > > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Gita, Bala and all, > > > > > > O-Oh, I overlooked to consider the Zero in SAV for picking the > right > > > sector. Thanks Gita, I need to be more thorough ........ > > > > > > I enjoyed reading your approach. Perfectly in line. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > , " kaslearner " > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Ash, Manoshi, Ramesh, Harjeet, Xavier and others, > > > > > > > > Here's my detailed analysis: > > > > > > > > There is Jupiter delay in Navamsa. Jupiter delay is nullified > by > > > lord > > > > of 1 and lord of 9 being in 5:9 placement > > > > > > > > Native completes 21 years in July 1987 when he is running Moon > > > antra > > > > Moon antra is powerful with 18 points and could have given > > > marriage > > > > but there is a zero in SAV table. So I considered an > additional > > > 10% > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > This delay ends somewhere around July 1989 when the native is > in > > > Sun > > > > Antra. > > > > > > > > Since there are many indications of unhappy marriage in the > chart, > > > I > > > > considered sun antra too as pointed out by Ramesh > > > > > > > > But Sun is in 6th house which is 12th from house 7. So sun is > > > > debilated and also doesn't have enough power for marriage > > > > > > > > The next antra Jupiter is LoE and has good points in the > > > worksheet. > > > > So I chose this antra for marriage > > > > > > > > Again a zero in the SAV pushed the marriage to the second > antra. > > > > I hope my analysis is in line. > > > > > > > > Thank you for posting the chart Bala. Thanks for the wishes > > > everyone!! > > > > > > > > Gita > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Gita, Manoshi, Ramesh and Xavier and List Members, > > > > > Bala, thank you for posting this puzzle. > > > > > Congratz to Gita for her perfect analysis. Gita it will be > nice > > > to > > > > > read how u approach the chart and came to the perfect > > > conclusion. > > > > > It will be a good learning experience for many. > > > > > Congratz to all who have attempted this puzzle. > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash > > > > > , bala sosale > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List members, > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is actual date of Marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > 18th Feb 1992 happens to be in Ra/Jupiter antra 2 > PDF > > > > > Saturn and Mars. > > > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Gita for getting the correct antra and > > > sector. > > > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Ash, Manoshi and Harjeet for getting the > > > antra > > > > > right. I think Harjeet changed > > > > > > period later. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks to Xavier and Ramesh for trying this. Hope I > did > > > not > > > > > miss any other names who > > > > > > participated. > > > > > > > > > > > > Please post your analysis so others can learn from > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > To continue further analysis on this chart please > > > analyse > > > > > the following. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Child birth > > > > > > 2. What is the current problem area for this Native? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Bala > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click > on > > > > > > > > > FareChase > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 8, 2006 Dear Ash, Sure. I can give answers to your questions. My birth time is rectified but go ahead if you want to check further. My answers are below. ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Pratap, Before attempting this query. Can you give some events for us to verify your birth time. Can you confirm the following. 1) Is your profession linked to Sa, Ju, Sun. Something to do with soil, agriculture, oil, ju can means consultancy or teaching or advisory role, and sun could mean management or government and Shani can also mean people. So is your profesison linked to the same. Education: I am a chemical engineer with degrees from India as well as US. Profession: My entire career has been in IT. Since 1986 I worked as a consultant. Never worked for Government. 2) Did u face more expenses during Saturn 1997-Jan-24 thru 1999-Dec-01. Yes. Both high income and expenses. 3) Did u face some toothaches or problems from collegues / work during Moon 1991-May-20 1991-Dec-19 - No. 4) Did u change jobs during or faced any health issues. Jupiter 1994-Aug-31 1997-Jan-24 - No health issues. Yes changed jobs 5) You might hold good post if in job or might also do your own undertaking and business. My last consulting assignment ended in March 2004. Since then I am attempting to do my own business. 6) Very powerful times, here you might have taken some big undertaking or started some big project. You also might have travelled even overseas during this time. I wonder if u might have started your own business during this time. Nevertheless, this period is very powerful. Jupiter 1994-Aug-31 1997-Jan-24 - Yes was instrumental in getting a big drug manufacturing project started. Saturn 1997-Jan-24 1999-Dec-01 Worked on a very lucrative consulting assignment which actually started on Dec 1996. 7) In Shani antra might give problems to your father health wise also Ju or Sa for mother. No. My father expired in Moon mahadasha. Mother still lives. If you can comment on the same it will be good. Thanks, Cheers !!! Ash , Pratap Kaneria wrote: > > Dear Astrologers, > > I am a new member and following most of the emails of the group. If you need to analyze some charts with known data, I volunteer my birth data to be analyzed for marriage date. > > My birth data is 18Nov1944, 20:38 (IST), 70E27, 21N44. > > I have been married only once. Can anyone figure out my marriage date ? > > With Regards, > > Pratap > > ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Harjeet and List Members, > Very good questions indeed and good chruning of your thoughts. > > I hope list members take part in a discussion helping u by sharing > their understanding. > > If there are more discussion like these, many things can get > cleared. If there is a chart with known data to support your query, > even better. > > Please discuss each point, and in the process so many things will > get cleared. > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > wrote: > > > > thanks very much Gita and list members for detailed approach and > exercise, > > I got to learn more here. i assumed that the delay caused by zero > is > > also cancelled because of position of lord of 1 and 9 in 5:9... but > > its not so. great learning for me. > > > > i know its very stupid but still confused about the following about > > saturn dealy: > > e.g. > > 1. Saturn is lord of A in rasi and aspecting C. and say its the > lord > > of B in navamsa. in this senario would saturn be giving delay. as i > > have seen A,B and C connected to saturn combined in rasi and > navamsa. ? > > > > 2. and other thing... if saturn is lord of D or E then the delay is > > modified and event would occur in the 1st sector after satrun > reaches > > 0 degree of the previous sign.? so even if saturn in lord of D or E > > the delay of saturn is still to be considered till the time it > reaches > > 0 degree of the previous sign. only the event would occur in the > 1st > > sector itself. > > > > 3. same is the thing if jupiter also aspects the lord of A, B and C > > all of them... the event occurs in the 1st sector after 0 degree > > previous sign thingy. ? > > > > 4. the delay of saturn is altogether cancelled bring the age of > > marriage for male to 21 and female to 18 if lord of 1 and 9 are > only > > in 5:9 position... neither conjunction nor opposition. > > > > If anyone one can tell me all the 4 points are correct ? > > > > 5. Also curious about the lord of 1 and 3 in 3:11 positioning... > does > > it count in cancelling the delay ? > > > > 6. Check on venus by jupiter cannot function if jupiter is in > libra in > > rasi or navamsa. or jupiter is in saturn sign or nakshatra. > > > > 7. does jupiter also checks any spoiling if its having exactly 4 > > points.. as it would be neutral. > > > > 8. when we overlap the charts and see the aspects of rahu, venus > etc > > for attraction ... the aspects and positons are seen from the > bhava or > > rashis or both? > > > > E.g. rahu in asc. in lagna of male is trine to venus of female in > 5th > > house. now rahu aspects 5th house...so here rahu would be aspecting > > venus and hence some attraction? > > > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Gita, Bala and all, > > > > > > O-Oh, I overlooked to consider the Zero in SAV for picking the > right > > > sector. Thanks Gita, I need to be more thorough ........ > > > > > > I enjoyed reading your approach. Perfectly in line. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > , " kaslearner " > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Ash, Manoshi, Ramesh, Harjeet, Xavier and others, > > > > > > > > Here's my detailed analysis: > > > > > > > > There is Jupiter delay in Navamsa. Jupiter delay is nullified > by > > > lord > > > > of 1 and lord of 9 being in 5:9 placement > > > > > > > > Native completes 21 years in July 1987 when he is running Moon > > > antra > > > > Moon antra is powerful with 18 points and could have given > > > marriage > > > > but there is a zero in SAV table. So I considered an > additional > > > 10% > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > This delay ends somewhere around July 1989 when the native is > in > > > Sun > > > > Antra. > > > > > > > > Since there are many indications of unhappy marriage in the > chart, > > > I > > > > considered sun antra too as pointed out by Ramesh > > > > > > > > But Sun is in 6th house which is 12th from house 7. So sun is > > > > debilated and also doesn't have enough power for marriage > > > > > > > > The next antra Jupiter is LoE and has good points in the > > > worksheet. > > > > So I chose this antra for marriage > > > > > > > > Again a zero in the SAV pushed the marriage to the second > antra. > > > > I hope my analysis is in line. > > > > > > > > Thank you for posting the chart Bala. Thanks for the wishes > > > everyone!! > > > > > > > > Gita > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Gita, Manoshi, Ramesh and Xavier and List Members, > > > > > Bala, thank you for posting this puzzle. > > > > > Congratz to Gita for her perfect analysis. Gita it will be > nice > > > to > > > > > read how u approach the chart and came to the perfect > > > conclusion. > > > > > It will be a good learning experience for many. > > > > > Congratz to all who have attempted this puzzle. > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash > > > > > , bala sosale > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List members, > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is actual date of Marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > 18th Feb 1992 happens to be in Ra/Jupiter antra 2 > PDF > > > > > Saturn and Mars. > > > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Gita for getting the correct antra and > > > sector. > > > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Ash, Manoshi and Harjeet for getting the > > > antra > > > > > right. I think Harjeet changed > > > > > > period later. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks to Xavier and Ramesh for trying this. Hope I > did > > > not > > > > > miss any other names who > > > > > > participated. > > > > > > > > > > > > Please post your analysis so others can learn from > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > To continue further analysis on this chart please > > > analyse > > > > > the following. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Child birth > > > > > > 2. What is the current problem area for this Native? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Bala > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click > on > > > > > > > > > FareChase > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 8, 2006 Dear Bala, Conception of the first child could have occured during 2nd sector - Saturn Antra (1994 May 03 - 1995 April 15). Is this correct? , bala sosale <bsosale wrote: > > Dear List members, > > Here is actual date of Marriage. > > 18th Feb 1992 happens to be in Ra/Jupiter antra 2 PDF Saturn and Mars. > > Congrats to Gita for getting the correct antra and sector. > > Congrats to Ash, Manoshi and Harjeet for getting the antra right. I think Harjeet changed > period later. > > Thanks to Xavier and Ramesh for trying this. Hope I did not miss any other names who > participated. > > Please post your analysis so others can learn from this. > > To continue further analysis on this chart please analyse the following. > > 1. Child birth > 2. What is the current problem area for this Native? > > > Regards > Bala > > > > Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click on FareChase > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 8, 2006 Dear Pratap, Did your father expire in Mo/Sa antra. Saturn 1979-Mar-20 1980-Oct-19 If you can confirm this it will be good. Ok, yes your birth time is slightly rectified. In any case, its in the ball park. I shall attempt to time your marriage. There is no delay due to Shani. There is delay due to Guru. Venus is in nak of Moola and aspected by Shani. There are no zeroes. So marriage can be after 24 years. At the end of 24 years you were running Ve/Ke. The very end of it. Next powerful antra is that of Su/Mo. Moon 1969-Apr-07 1969-Oct-07 So I feel Moon antra might give u marraige. Atleast in my opinion you should be married before Su/Ju antra. Jupiter 1971-Jan-06 1971-Oct-26 If antra is proper i.e Sun/Mo. Then i will try to narrow it further. Thanking you, Cheers !!! Ash , Pratap Kaneria <pkaneria wrote: > > Dear Ash, > > Sure. I can give answers to your questions. My birth time is rectified but go ahead if you want to check further. My answers are below. > > ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Pratap, > Before attempting this query. Can you give some events for us to > verify your birth time. > > Can you confirm the following. > > 1) Is your profession linked to Sa, Ju, Sun. Something to do with > soil, agriculture, oil, ju can means consultancy or teaching or > advisory role, and sun could mean management or government and Shani > can also mean people. So is your profesison linked to the same. > > Education: I am a chemical engineer with degrees from India as well as US. > Profession: My entire career has been in IT. Since 1986 I worked as a consultant. Never worked for Government. > > 2) Did u face more expenses during > > Saturn 1997-Jan-24 thru 1999-Dec-01. Yes. Both high income and expenses. > > 3) Did u face some toothaches or problems from collegues / work > during > > Moon 1991-May-20 1991-Dec-19 - No. > > 4) Did u change jobs during or faced any health issues. > > Jupiter 1994-Aug-31 1997-Jan-24 - No health issues. Yes changed jobs > > 5) You might hold good post if in job or might also do your own > undertaking and business. My last consulting assignment ended in March 2004. Since then I am attempting to do my own business. > > 6) Very powerful times, here you might have taken some big > undertaking or started some big project. You also might have > travelled even overseas during this time. I wonder if u might have > started your own business during this time. Nevertheless, this > period is very powerful. > > Jupiter 1994-Aug-31 1997-Jan-24 - Yes was instrumental in getting a big drug manufacturing project started. > > Saturn 1997-Jan-24 1999-Dec-01 Worked on a very lucrative consulting assignment which actually started on Dec 1996. > > 7) In Shani antra might give problems to your father health wise > also Ju or Sa for mother. No. My father expired in Moon mahadasha. Mother still lives. > > If you can comment on the same it will be good. > > Thanks, > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , Pratap Kaneria > > wrote: > > > > Dear Astrologers, > > > > I am a new member and following most of the emails of the group. > If you need to analyze some charts with known data, I volunteer my > birth data to be analyzed for marriage date. > > > > My birth data is 18Nov1944, 20:38 (IST), 70E27, 21N44. > > > > I have been married only once. Can anyone figure out my marriage > date ? > > > > With Regards, > > > > Pratap > > > > ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear Harjeet and List Members, > > Very good questions indeed and good chruning of your thoughts. > > > > I hope list members take part in a discussion helping u by sharing > > their understanding. > > > > If there are more discussion like these, many things can get > > cleared. If there is a chart with known data to support your > query, > > even better. > > > > Please discuss each point, and in the process so many things will > > get cleared. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > --- In , " harjeet_bakshi " > > wrote: > > > > > > thanks very much Gita and list members for detailed approach and > > exercise, > > > I got to learn more here. i assumed that the delay caused by > zero > > is > > > also cancelled because of position of lord of 1 and 9 in 5:9... > but > > > its not so. great learning for me. > > > > > > i know its very stupid but still confused about the following > about > > > saturn dealy: > > > e.g. > > > 1. Saturn is lord of A in rasi and aspecting C. and say its the > > lord > > > of B in navamsa. in this senario would saturn be giving delay. > as i > > > have seen A,B and C connected to saturn combined in rasi and > > navamsa. ? > > > > > > 2. and other thing... if saturn is lord of D or E then the delay > is > > > modified and event would occur in the 1st sector after satrun > > reaches > > > 0 degree of the previous sign.? so even if saturn in lord of D > or E > > > the delay of saturn is still to be considered till the time it > > reaches > > > 0 degree of the previous sign. only the event would occur in the > > 1st > > > sector itself. > > > > > > 3. same is the thing if jupiter also aspects the lord of A, B > and C > > > all of them... the event occurs in the 1st sector after 0 degree > > > previous sign thingy. ? > > > > > > 4. the delay of saturn is altogether cancelled bring the age of > > > marriage for male to 21 and female to 18 if lord of 1 and 9 are > > only > > > in 5:9 position... neither conjunction nor opposition. > > > > > > If anyone one can tell me all the 4 points are correct ? > > > > > > 5. Also curious about the lord of 1 and 3 in 3:11 positioning... > > does > > > it count in cancelling the delay ? > > > > > > 6. Check on venus by jupiter cannot function if jupiter is in > > libra in > > > rasi or navamsa. or jupiter is in saturn sign or nakshatra. > > > > > > 7. does jupiter also checks any spoiling if its having exactly 4 > > > points.. as it would be neutral. > > > > > > 8. when we overlap the charts and see the aspects of rahu, venus > > etc > > > for attraction ... the aspects and positons are seen from the > > bhava or > > > rashis or both? > > > > > > E.g. rahu in asc. in lagna of male is trine to venus of female > in > > 5th > > > house. now rahu aspects 5th house...so here rahu would be > aspecting > > > venus and hence some attraction? > > > > > > thanks/regards > > > harjeet > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Gita, Bala and all, > > > > > > > > O-Oh, I overlooked to consider the Zero in SAV for picking the > > right > > > > sector. Thanks Gita, I need to be more thorough ........ > > > > > > > > I enjoyed reading your approach. Perfectly in line. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > --- In , " kaslearner " > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Ash, Manoshi, Ramesh, Harjeet, Xavier and others, > > > > > > > > > > Here's my detailed analysis: > > > > > > > > > > There is Jupiter delay in Navamsa. Jupiter delay is > nullified > > by > > > > lord > > > > > of 1 and lord of 9 being in 5:9 placement > > > > > > > > > > Native completes 21 years in July 1987 when he is running > Moon > > > > antra > > > > > Moon antra is powerful with 18 points and could have given > > > > marriage > > > > > but there is a zero in SAV table. So I considered an > > additional > > > > 10% > > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > > > This delay ends somewhere around July 1989 when the native > is > > in > > > > Sun > > > > > Antra. > > > > > > > > > > Since there are many indications of unhappy marriage in the > > chart, > > > > I > > > > > considered sun antra too as pointed out by Ramesh > > > > > > > > > > But Sun is in 6th house which is 12th from house 7. So sun > is > > > > > debilated and also doesn't have enough power for marriage > > > > > > > > > > The next antra Jupiter is LoE and has good points in the > > > > worksheet. > > > > > So I chose this antra for marriage > > > > > > > > > > Again a zero in the SAV pushed the marriage to the second > > antra. > > > > > I hope my analysis is in line. > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for posting the chart Bala. Thanks for the wishes > > > > everyone!! > > > > > > > > > > Gita > > > > > > > > > > --- In , " ashsam73 " > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Gita, Manoshi, Ramesh and Xavier and List > Members, > > > > > > Bala, thank you for posting this puzzle. > > > > > > Congratz to Gita for her perfect analysis. Gita it will be > > nice > > > > to > > > > > > read how u approach the chart and came to the perfect > > > > conclusion. > > > > > > It will be a good learning experience for many. > > > > > > Congratz to all who have attempted this puzzle. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > , bala > sosale > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is actual date of Marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 18th Feb 1992 happens to be in Ra/Jupiter antra 2 > > PDF > > > > > > Saturn and Mars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Gita for getting the correct antra and > > > > sector. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Ash, Manoshi and Harjeet for getting the > > > > antra > > > > > > right. I think Harjeet changed > > > > > > > period later. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks to Xavier and Ramesh for trying this. Hope I > > did > > > > not > > > > > > miss any other names who > > > > > > > participated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please post your analysis so others can learn from > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To continue further analysis on this chart please > > > > analyse > > > > > > the following. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Child birth > > > > > > > 2. What is the current problem area for this Native? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > Bala > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click > > on > > > > > > > > > > > FareChase > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 8, 2006 Harjeet-ji, Thanks for trying. May I ask which software and ayanamsa are you using ? I am using Jhora 7.2 and Lahiri ayanamsa. Sun mahadasha starts on 1969-06-09 based on birthdata and software. Are you looking at the same data ? With Regards, Pratap harjeet_bakshi <harjeet_bakshi wrote: Pratapji, After getting clarifications on some of my doubts... i want to reattempt and consider the dealy of jupiter in your navamsa chart... which gets over around 24 years. no dealy from saturn. i am tempted to go for moon the samdhari for venus which is strong significator and lord of E... but i would pass as venus adn moon both are aspected by rahu and saturn(although benefic sight). mars cant give marriage in its antra being 12th lord from 7th house and in 6th house itself. rahu is samdhari for jupiter which is also a strong significator having 6 points. being in 1/7 axis i am reluctant to go for rahu antra too. next is jupiter antra which i am tempted to go for as it not only has 6 points so would give result of the 4th house which happens to be the house B for marriage but it also the samdhari for saturn which has the most points in worksheet for house 7. i might be wrong but its worth attempting and learning. thanks/regards harjeet , Pratap Kaneria wrote: > > Dear Astrologers, > > I am a new member and following most of the emails of the group. If you need to analyze some charts with known data, I volunteer my birth data to be analyzed for marriage date. > > My birth data is 18Nov1944, 20:38 (IST), 70E27, 21N44. > > I have been married only once. Can anyone figure out my marriage date ? > > With Regards, > > Pratap > > ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Harjeet and List Members, > Very good questions indeed and good chruning of your thoughts. > > I hope list members take part in a discussion helping u by sharing > their understanding. > > If there are more discussion like these, many things can get > cleared. If there is a chart with known data to support your query, > even better. > > Please discuss each point, and in the process so many things will > get cleared. > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , " harjeet_bakshi " > wrote: > > > > thanks very much Gita and list members for detailed approach and > exercise, > > I got to learn more here. i assumed that the delay caused by zero > is > > also cancelled because of position of lord of 1 and 9 in 5:9... but > > its not so. great learning for me. > > > > i know its very stupid but still confused about the following about > > saturn dealy: > > e.g. > > 1. Saturn is lord of A in rasi and aspecting C. and say its the > lord > > of B in navamsa. in this senario would saturn be giving delay. as i > > have seen A,B and C connected to saturn combined in rasi and > navamsa. ? > > > > 2. and other thing... if saturn is lord of D or E then the delay is > > modified and event would occur in the 1st sector after satrun > reaches > > 0 degree of the previous sign.? so even if saturn in lord of D or E > > the delay of saturn is still to be considered till the time it > reaches > > 0 degree of the previous sign. only the event would occur in the > 1st > > sector itself. > > > > 3. same is the thing if jupiter also aspects the lord of A, B and C > > all of them... the event occurs in the 1st sector after 0 degree > > previous sign thingy. ? > > > > 4. the delay of saturn is altogether cancelled bring the age of > > marriage for male to 21 and female to 18 if lord of 1 and 9 are > only > > in 5:9 position... neither conjunction nor opposition. > > > > If anyone one can tell me all the 4 points are correct ? > > > > 5. Also curious about the lord of 1 and 3 in 3:11 positioning... > does > > it count in cancelling the delay ? > > > > 6. Check on venus by jupiter cannot function if jupiter is in > libra in > > rasi or navamsa. or jupiter is in saturn sign or nakshatra. > > > > 7. does jupiter also checks any spoiling if its having exactly 4 > > points.. as it would be neutral. > > > > 8. when we overlap the charts and see the aspects of rahu, venus > etc > > for attraction ... the aspects and positons are seen from the > bhava or > > rashis or both? > > > > E.g. rahu in asc. in lagna of male is trine to venus of female in > 5th > > house. now rahu aspects 5th house...so here rahu would be aspecting > > venus and hence some attraction? > > > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Gita, Bala and all, > > > > > > O-Oh, I overlooked to consider the Zero in SAV for picking the > right > > > sector. Thanks Gita, I need to be more thorough ........ > > > > > > I enjoyed reading your approach. Perfectly in line. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > , " kaslearner " > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Ash, Manoshi, Ramesh, Harjeet, Xavier and others, > > > > > > > > Here's my detailed analysis: > > > > > > > > There is Jupiter delay in Navamsa. Jupiter delay is nullified > by > > > lord > > > > of 1 and lord of 9 being in 5:9 placement > > > > > > > > Native completes 21 years in July 1987 when he is running Moon > > > antra > > > > Moon antra is powerful with 18 points and could have given > > > marriage > > > > but there is a zero in SAV table. So I considered an > additional > > > 10% > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > This delay ends somewhere around July 1989 when the native is > in > > > Sun > > > > Antra. > > > > > > > > Since there are many indications of unhappy marriage in the > chart, > > > I > > > > considered sun antra too as pointed out by Ramesh > > > > > > > > But Sun is in 6th house which is 12th from house 7. So sun is > > > > debilated and also doesn't have enough power for marriage > > > > > > > > The next antra Jupiter is LoE and has good points in the > > > worksheet. > > > > So I chose this antra for marriage > > > > > > > > Again a zero in the SAV pushed the marriage to the second > antra. > > > > I hope my analysis is in line. > > > > > > > > Thank you for posting the chart Bala. Thanks for the wishes > > > everyone!! > > > > > > > > Gita > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bala, Gita, Manoshi, Ramesh and Xavier and List Members, > > > > > Bala, thank you for posting this puzzle. > > > > > Congratz to Gita for her perfect analysis. Gita it will be > nice > > > to > > > > > read how u approach the chart and came to the perfect > > > conclusion. > > > > > It will be a good learning experience for many. > > > > > Congratz to all who have attempted this puzzle. > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash > > > > > , bala sosale > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List members, > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is actual date of Marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > 18th Feb 1992 happens to be in Ra/Jupiter antra 2 > PDF > > > > > Saturn and Mars. > > > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Gita for getting the correct antra and > > > sector. > > > > > > > > > > > > Congrats to Ash, Manoshi and Harjeet for getting the > > > antra > > > > > right. I think Harjeet changed > > > > > > period later. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks to Xavier and Ramesh for trying this. Hope I > did > > > not > > > > > miss any other names who > > > > > > participated. > > > > > > > > > > > > Please post your analysis so others can learn from > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > To continue further analysis on this chart please > > > analyse > > > > > the following. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Child birth > > > > > > 2. What is the current problem area for this Native? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Bala > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click > on > > > > > > > > > FareChase > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
