Question about amt. of viable members here

Report post · June 28, 2008

Well, you certainly did big him up there!

I shall wait and see if the expert replies.

Peter vv

jo <jo.heartwork Sent: Friday, 27 June, 2008 11:19:33 PMRe: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here

ï»¿ Peter's your man for that answer - he has discussed with world experts, and might even be one himself.

Jo

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Peter VV

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Friday, June 27, 2008 8:33 PM

Re: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here

Is it possible to put an age on a faith ( you said old gods ), I wonder what the oldest faith would be?

Peter vv

jo <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com>@gro ups.comThursday, 26 June, 2008 11:15:44 PMRe: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here

ï»¿ Yes, people do believe in all the old gods.

Jo

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Peter VV

@gro ups.com

Thursday, June 26, 2008 10:17 PM

Re: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here

Realy? worship as in believe they exist sort of thing? wow, does anyone believe on Roman gods still? are they two sides of the same coin, dont wish to offend, I realy am ignorant, sorry.

Peter vv

Blue Rose <bluerose156@ gmail.com>@gro ups.comThursday, 26 June, 2008 10:12:20 PMRe: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here

I worship Greek gods.

On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Peter VV <swpgh01 (AT) talk21 (DOT) com> wrote:

Boy am I ignorant, I dont understand any of this?

Peter vv

Blue Rose <bluerose156@ gmail.com>@gro ups.comThursday, 26 June, 2008 9:28:08 PMRe: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here

Not all, but working on it! The current one is my favorite. He is quite squee.

I'm a Greek polytheist. I'd describe myself more as either syncretic or "intelligently eclectic". I don't really mix 'n' match, just fill holes.

On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 4:20 PM, jo <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com> wrote:

Oooooh! I feel some chat coming on :-)

What path are you (I'm eclectic and Druid (but not wholly)) and have you seen all the old Doctors? or did you come in on the newer ones? We have just two episodes left this year :-( but they look as though they should be good.

BBJo

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Blue Rose

@gro ups.com

Thursday, June 26, 2008 12:16 PM

Re: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here

Yay!<-- also a Pagan and Doctor Who fan. :D

On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 2:54 AM, heartwerk <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com> wrote:

I personally like heavy metal, Doctor Who, Paganism and theparanormal, photography, gardening, gentle walks etc.What do you like?

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Report post · June 28, 2008

ï»¿

I know - I bet it made him cringe.

Jo

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Peter VV

Saturday, June 28, 2008 4:38 PM

Re: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here

Well, you certainly did big him up there!

I shall wait and see if the expert replies.

Peter vv

jo <jo.heartwork > Sent: Friday, 27 June, 2008 11:19:33 PMRe: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here

ï»¿ Peter's your man for that answer - he has discussed with world experts, and might even be one himself.

Jo

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Peter VV

@gro ups.com

Friday, June 27, 2008 8:33 PM

Re: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here

Is it possible to put an age on a faith ( you said old gods ), I wonder what the oldest faith would be?

Peter vv

jo <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com>@gro ups.comThursday, 26 June, 2008 11:15:44 PMRe: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here

ï»¿ Yes, people do believe in all the old gods.

Jo

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Peter VV

@gro ups.com

Thursday, June 26, 2008 10:17 PM

Re: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here

Realy? worship as in believe they exist sort of thing? wow, does anyone believe on Roman gods still? are they two sides of the same coin, dont wish to offend, I realy am ignorant, sorry.

Peter vv

Blue Rose <bluerose156@ gmail.com>@gro ups.comThursday, 26 June, 2008 10:12:20 PMRe: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here

I worship Greek gods.

On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Peter VV <swpgh01 (AT) talk21 (DOT) com> wrote:

Boy am I ignorant, I dont understand any of this?

Peter vv

Blue Rose <bluerose156@ gmail.com>@gro ups.comThursday, 26 June, 2008 9:28:08 PMRe: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here

Not all, but working on it! The current one is my favorite. He is quite squee.

I'm a Greek polytheist. I'd describe myself more as either syncretic or "intelligently eclectic". I don't really mix 'n' match, just fill holes.

On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 4:20 PM, jo <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com> wrote:

Oooooh! I feel some chat coming on :-)

What path are you (I'm eclectic and Druid (but not wholly)) and have you seen all the old Doctors? or did you come in on the newer ones? We have just two episodes left this year :-( but they look as though they should be good.

BBJo

-

Blue Rose

@gro ups.com

Thursday, June 26, 2008 12:16 PM

Re: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here

Yay!<-- also a Pagan and Doctor Who fan. :D

On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 2:54 AM, heartwerk <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com> wrote:

I personally like heavy metal, Doctor Who, Paganism and theparanormal, photography, gardening, gentle walks etc.What do you like?

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Report post · June 28, 2008

Oh crumbs.... well, I can try! Although it does get quite complicated with the various theories that are around (and I'm a few years out of date, so it's possible that there are different theories nowadays!)

The oldest known religions are those of ancient Sumer and Egypt, although both were already very complex and well developed by the time we know anything about them (around 3,000 BCE), so were probably already ancient at that point. It's pretty likely that religious belief has been around since humanity (or its predecessors) became sentient!

I don't know exactly how old the Roman gods are - the Roman republic itself appeared around 750 BCE, and as far as I know, the religion that developed in that has its roots in the " clan " religions that were encompassed in the republic. Same with Greek gods. Judaism in anything approaching its modern form developed around the time of the Babylonian exile (c.500 BCE), but has roots going back to the tribal peoples of modern day Israel / Palestine, along with roots in Sumerian and Egyptian religions. Christianity in its modern form developed over the first 3 or 4 centuries CE...

BBPeter2008/6/28 Peter VV <swpgh01:

Well, you certainly did big him up there!

I shall wait and see if the expert replies.

Peter vv

jo <jo.heartwork

Sent: Friday, 27 June, 2008 11:19:33 PMRe: Re: Question about amt. of " viable " members here

ï»¿ Peter's your man for that answer - he has discussed with world experts, and might even be one himself.

Jo

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Peter VV

@gro ups.com

Friday, June 27, 2008 8:33 PM

Re: Re: Question about amt. of " viable " members here

Is it possible to put an age on a faith ( you said old gods ), I wonder what the oldest faith would be?

Peter vv

jo <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com>

@gro ups.comThursday, 26 June, 2008 11:15:44 PMRe: Re: Question about amt. of " viable " members here

ï»¿ Yes, people do believe in all the old gods.

Jo

-

Peter VV

@gro ups.com

Thursday, June 26, 2008 10:17 PM

Re: Re: Question about amt. of " viable " members here

Realy? worship as in believe they exist sort of thing? wow, does anyone believe on Roman gods still? are they two sides of the same coin, dont wish to offend, I realy am ignorant, sorry.

Peter vv

Blue Rose <bluerose156@ gmail.com>

@gro ups.comThursday, 26 June, 2008 10:12:20 PMRe: Re: Question about amt. of " viable " members here

I worship Greek gods.

On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Peter VV <swpgh01 (AT) talk21 (DOT) com> wrote:

Boy am I ignorant, I dont understand any of this?

Peter vv

Blue Rose <bluerose156@ gmail.com>

@gro ups.comThursday, 26 June, 2008 9:28:08 PMRe: Re: Question about amt. of " viable " members here

Not all, but working on it! The current one is my favorite. He is quite squee.

I'm a Greek polytheist. I'd describe myself more as either syncretic or " intelligently eclectic " . I don't really mix 'n' match, just fill holes.

On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 4:20 PM, jo <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com> wrote:

Oooooh! I feel some chat coming on :-)

What path are you (I'm eclectic and Druid (but not wholly)) and have you seen all the old Doctors? or did you come in on the newer ones? We have just two episodes left this year :-( but they look as though they should be good.

BBJo

-

Blue Rose

@gro ups.com

Thursday, June 26, 2008 12:16 PM

Re: Re: Question about amt. of " viable " members here

Yay!<-- also a Pagan and Doctor Who fan. :D

On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 2:54 AM, heartwerk <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com> wrote:

I personally like heavy metal, Doctor Who, Paganism and theparanormal, photography, gardening, gentle walks etc.What do you like?

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I thought the greek gods were the same as the roman gods, but with different names?, which came first? or did they arrive at the same time? did one copy off the other?

What are classed as the old gods?

Peter vv

Peter Kebbell <metalscarab Sent: Saturday, 28 June, 2008 10:33:22 PMRe: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here

Oh crumbs.... well, I can try! Although it does get quite complicated with the various theories that are around (and I'm a few years out of date, so it's possible that there are different theories nowadays!)The oldest known religions are those of ancient Sumer and Egypt, although both were already very complex and well developed by the time we know anything about them (around 3,000 BCE), so were probably already ancient at that point. It's pretty likely that religious belief has been around since humanity (or its predecessors) became sentient!I don't know exactly how old the Roman gods are - the Roman republic itself appeared around 750 BCE, and as far as I know, the religion that developed in that has its roots in the "clan" religions that were encompassed in the republic. Same with Greek gods. Judaism in anything approaching its modern form developed around the time of the Babylonian exile (c.500 BCE), but has roots

going back to the tribal peoples of modern day Israel / Palestine, along with roots in Sumerian and Egyptian religions. Christianity in its modern form developed over the first 3 or 4 centuries CE...BBPeter

2008/6/28 Peter VV <swpgh01 (AT) talk21 (DOT) com>:

Well, you certainly did big him up there!

I shall wait and see if the expert replies.

Peter vv

jo <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com>@gro ups.com

Friday, 27 June, 2008 11:19:33 PMRe: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here

ï»¿ Peter's your man for that answer - he has discussed with world experts, and might even be one himself.

Jo

-

Peter VV

@gro ups.com

Friday, June 27, 2008 8:33 PM

Re: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here

Is it possible to put an age on a faith ( you said old gods ), I wonder what the oldest faith would be?

Peter vv

jo <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com>@gro ups.com

Thursday, 26 June, 2008 11:15:44 PMRe: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here

ï»¿ Yes, people do believe in all the old gods.

Jo

-

Peter VV

@gro ups.com

Thursday, June 26, 2008 10:17 PM

Re: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here

Realy? worship as in believe they exist sort of thing? wow, does anyone believe on Roman gods still? are they two sides of the same coin, dont wish to offend, I realy am ignorant, sorry.

Peter vv

Blue Rose <bluerose156@ gmail.com>@gro ups.com

Thursday, 26 June, 2008 10:12:20 PMRe: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here

I worship Greek gods.

On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Peter VV <swpgh01 (AT) talk21 (DOT) com> wrote:

Boy am I ignorant, I dont understand any of this?

Peter vv

Blue Rose <bluerose156@ gmail.com>@gro ups.com

Thursday, 26 June, 2008 9:28:08 PMRe: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here

Not all, but working on it! The current one is my favorite. He is quite squee.

I'm a Greek polytheist. I'd describe myself more as either syncretic or "intelligently eclectic". I don't really mix 'n' match, just fill holes.

On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 4:20 PM, jo <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com> wrote:

Oooooh! I feel some chat coming on :-)

What path are you (I'm eclectic and Druid (but not wholly)) and have you seen all the old Doctors? or did you come in on the newer ones? We have just two episodes left this year :-( but they look as though they should be good.

BBJo

-

Blue Rose

@gro ups.com

Thursday, June 26, 2008 12:16 PM

Re: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here

Yay!<-- also a Pagan and Doctor Who fan. :D

On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 2:54 AM, heartwerk <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com> wrote:

I personally like heavy metal, Doctor Who, Paganism and theparanormal, photography, gardening, gentle walks etc.What do you like?

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Hi PeterNot really my field - but I think that most pre-Christian religions tended to asign natural phenomena to deities (so, a storm god, a wind god, god of love, god of war, etc.) As such, most pre-Christian religions have parallel deities, but they're not really " the same " - just that in the monotheistic world we now live in, people think that if two different deities were " storm gods " , they must, of course, have been the same deity... much like two different lawyers must really be the same person!

BBPeter2008/6/28 Peter VV <swpgh01:

I thought the greek gods were the same as the roman gods, but with different names?, which came first? or did they arrive at the same time? did one copy off the other?

What are classed as the old gods?

Peter vv

Peter Kebbell <metalscarab

Sent: Saturday, 28 June, 2008 10:33:22 PMRe: Re: Question about amt. of " viable " members here

Oh crumbs.... well, I can try! Although it does get quite complicated with the various theories that are around (and I'm a few years out of date, so it's possible that there are different theories nowadays!)

The oldest known religions are those of ancient Sumer and Egypt, although both were already very complex and well developed by the time we know anything about them (around 3,000 BCE), so were probably already ancient at that point. It's pretty likely that religious belief has been around since humanity (or its predecessors) became sentient!

I don't know exactly how old the Roman gods are - the Roman republic itself appeared around 750 BCE, and as far as I know, the religion that developed in that has its roots in the " clan " religions that were encompassed in the republic. Same with Greek gods. Judaism in anything approaching its modern form developed around the time of the Babylonian exile (c.500 BCE), but has roots

going back to the tribal peoples of modern day Israel / Palestine, along with roots in Sumerian and Egyptian religions. Christianity in its modern form developed over the first 3 or 4 centuries CE...BBPeter

2008/6/28 Peter VV <swpgh01 (AT) talk21 (DOT) com>:

Well, you certainly did big him up there!

I shall wait and see if the expert replies.

Peter vv

jo <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com>@gro ups.com

Friday, 27 June, 2008 11:19:33 PMRe: Re: Question about amt. of " viable " members here

ï»¿ Peter's your man for that answer - he has discussed with world experts, and might even be one himself.

Jo

-

Peter VV

@gro ups.com

Friday, June 27, 2008 8:33 PM

Re: Re: Question about amt. of " viable " members here

Is it possible to put an age on a faith ( you said old gods ), I wonder what the oldest faith would be?

Peter vv

jo <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com>@gro ups.com

Thursday, 26 June, 2008 11:15:44 PMRe: Re: Question about amt. of " viable " members here

ï»¿ Yes, people do believe in all the old gods.

Jo

-

Peter VV

@gro ups.com

Thursday, June 26, 2008 10:17 PM

Re: Re: Question about amt. of " viable " members here

Realy? worship as in believe they exist sort of thing? wow, does anyone believe on Roman gods still? are they two sides of the same coin, dont wish to offend, I realy am ignorant, sorry.

Peter vv

Blue Rose <bluerose156@ gmail.com>@gro ups.com

Thursday, 26 June, 2008 10:12:20 PMRe: Re: Question about amt. of " viable " members here

I worship Greek gods.

On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Peter VV <swpgh01 (AT) talk21 (DOT) com> wrote:

Boy am I ignorant, I dont understand any of this?

Peter vv

Blue Rose <bluerose156@ gmail.com>@gro ups.com

Thursday, 26 June, 2008 9:28:08 PMRe: Re: Question about amt. of " viable " members here

Not all, but working on it! The current one is my favorite. He is quite squee.

I'm a Greek polytheist. I'd describe myself more as either syncretic or " intelligently eclectic " . I don't really mix 'n' match, just fill holes.

On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 4:20 PM, jo <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com> wrote:

Oooooh! I feel some chat coming on :-)

What path are you (I'm eclectic and Druid (but not wholly)) and have you seen all the old Doctors? or did you come in on the newer ones? We have just two episodes left this year :-( but they look as though they should be good.

BBJo

-

Blue Rose

@gro ups.com

Thursday, June 26, 2008 12:16 PM

Re: Re: Question about amt. of " viable " members here

Yay!<-- also a Pagan and Doctor Who fan. :D

On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 2:54 AM, heartwerk <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com> wrote:

I personally like heavy metal, Doctor Who, Paganism and theparanormal, photography, gardening, gentle walks etc.What do you like?

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Report post · June 29, 2008

ï»¿

I have no knowledge of this really, but had thought that the gods were basically different, but similarities are drawn so that people could relate from one to the other. Something like the Mercedes Benz is the German Rolls Royce etc.

Jo

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Peter VV

Saturday, June 28, 2008 10:40 PM

Re: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here

I thought the greek gods were the same as the roman gods, but with different names?, which came first? or did they arrive at the same time? did one copy off the other?

What are classed as the old gods?

Peter vv

Peter Kebbell <metalscarab > Sent: Saturday, 28 June, 2008 10:33:22 PMRe: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here

Oh crumbs.... well, I can try! Although it does get quite complicated with the various theories that are around (and I'm a few years out of date, so it's possible that there are different theories nowadays!)The oldest known religions are those of ancient Sumer and Egypt, although both were already very complex and well developed by the time we know anything about them (around 3,000 BCE), so were probably already ancient at that point. It's pretty likely that religious belief has been around since humanity (or its predecessors) became sentient!I don't know exactly how old the Roman gods are - the Roman republic itself appeared around 750 BCE, and as far as I know, the religion that developed in that has its roots in the "clan" religions that were encompassed in the republic. Same with Greek gods. Judaism in anything approaching its modern form developed around the time of the Babylonian exile (c.500 BCE), but has roots going back to the tribal peoples of modern day Israel / Palestine, along with roots in Sumerian and Egyptian religions. Christianity in its modern form developed over the first 3 or 4 centuries CE...BBPeter

2008/6/28 Peter VV <swpgh01 (AT) talk21 (DOT) com>:

Well, you certainly did big him up there!

I shall wait and see if the expert replies.

Peter vv

jo <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com>@gro ups.com

Friday, 27 June, 2008 11:19:33 PMRe: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here

ï»¿ Peter's your man for that answer - he has discussed with world experts, and might even be one himself.

Jo

-

Peter VV

@gro ups.com

Friday, June 27, 2008 8:33 PM

Re: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here

Is it possible to put an age on a faith ( you said old gods ), I wonder what the oldest faith would be?

Peter vv

jo <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com>@gro ups.com

Thursday, 26 June, 2008 11:15:44 PMRe: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here

ï»¿ Yes, people do believe in all the old gods.

Jo

-

Peter VV

@gro ups.com

Thursday, June 26, 2008 10:17 PM

Re: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here

Realy? worship as in believe they exist sort of thing? wow, does anyone believe on Roman gods still? are they two sides of the same coin, dont wish to offend, I realy am ignorant, sorry.

Peter vv

Blue Rose <bluerose156@ gmail.com>@gro ups.com

Thursday, 26 June, 2008 10:12:20 PMRe: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here

I worship Greek gods.

On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Peter VV <swpgh01 (AT) talk21 (DOT) com> wrote:

Boy am I ignorant, I dont understand any of this?

Peter vv

Blue Rose <bluerose156@ gmail.com>@gro ups.com

Thursday, 26 June, 2008 9:28:08 PMRe: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here

Not all, but working on it! The current one is my favorite. He is quite squee.

I'm a Greek polytheist. I'd describe myself more as either syncretic or "intelligently eclectic". I don't really mix 'n' match, just fill holes.

On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 4:20 PM, jo <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com> wrote:

Oooooh! I feel some chat coming on :-)

What path are you (I'm eclectic and Druid (but not wholly)) and have you seen all the old Doctors? or did you come in on the newer ones? We have just two episodes left this year :-( but they look as though they should be good.

BBJo

-

Blue Rose

@gro ups.com

Thursday, June 26, 2008 12:16 PM

Re: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here

Yay!<-- also a Pagan and Doctor Who fan. :D

On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 2:54 AM, heartwerk <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com> wrote:

I personally like heavy metal, Doctor Who, Paganism and theparanormal, photography, gardening, gentle walks etc.What do you like?

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Report post · June 30, 2008

Nope, they're not.

The Romans had their own gods but syncretically linked them up with the Greek gods when they invaded their culture. There are still a LOT of Roman gods, however, that are completely original.

On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 5:40 PM, Peter VV <swpgh01 wrote:

I thought the greek gods were the same as the roman gods, but with different names?, which came first? or did they arrive at the same time? did one copy off the other?

What are classed as the old gods?

Peter vv

Peter Kebbell <metalscarab

Saturday, 28 June, 2008 10:33:22 PMRe: Re: Question about amt. of " viable " members here

Oh crumbs.... well, I can try! Although it does get quite complicated with the various theories that are around (and I'm a few years out of date, so it's possible that there are different theories nowadays!)

The oldest known religions are those of ancient Sumer and Egypt, although both were already very complex and well developed by the time we know anything about them (around 3,000 BCE), so were probably already ancient at that point. It's pretty likely that religious belief has been around since humanity (or its predecessors) became sentient!

I don't know exactly how old the Roman gods are - the Roman republic itself appeared around 750 BCE, and as far as I know, the religion that developed in that has its roots in the " clan " religions that were encompassed in the republic. Same with Greek gods. Judaism in anything approaching its modern form developed around the time of the Babylonian exile (c.500 BCE), but has roots going back to the tribal peoples of modern day Israel / Palestine, along with roots in Sumerian and Egyptian religions. Christianity in its modern form developed over the first 3 or 4 centuries CE...

BBPeter

2008/6/28 Peter VV <swpgh01 (AT) talk21 (DOT) com>:

Well, you certainly did big him up there!

I shall wait and see if the expert replies.

Peter vv

jo <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com>

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Friday, 27 June, 2008 11:19:33 PMRe: Re: Question about amt. of " viable " members here

ï»¿ Peter's your man for that answer - he has discussed with world experts, and might even be one himself.

Jo

-

Peter VV

@gro ups.com

Friday, June 27, 2008 8:33 PM

Re: Re: Question about amt. of " viable " members here

Is it possible to put an age on a faith ( you said old gods ), I wonder what the oldest faith would be?

Peter vv

jo <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com>@gro ups.com

Thursday, 26 June, 2008 11:15:44 PMRe: Re: Question about amt. of " viable " members here

ï»¿ Yes, people do believe in all the old gods.

Jo

-

Peter VV

@gro ups.com

Thursday, June 26, 2008 10:17 PM

Re: Re: Question about amt. of " viable " members here

Realy? worship as in believe they exist sort of thing? wow, does anyone believe on Roman gods still? are they two sides of the same coin, dont wish to offend, I realy am ignorant, sorry.

Peter vv

Blue Rose <bluerose156@ gmail.com>@gro ups.com

Thursday, 26 June, 2008 10:12:20 PMRe: Re: Question about amt. of " viable " members here

I worship Greek gods.

On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Peter VV <swpgh01 (AT) talk21 (DOT) com> wrote:

Boy am I ignorant, I dont understand any of this?

Peter vv

Blue Rose <bluerose156@ gmail.com>@gro ups.com

Thursday, 26 June, 2008 9:28:08 PMRe: Re: Question about amt. of " viable " members here

Not all, but working on it! The current one is my favorite. He is quite squee.

I'm a Greek polytheist. I'd describe myself more as either syncretic or " intelligently eclectic " . I don't really mix 'n' match, just fill holes.

On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 4:20 PM, jo <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com> wrote:

Oooooh! I feel some chat coming on :-)

What path are you (I'm eclectic and Druid (but not wholly)) and have you seen all the old Doctors? or did you come in on the newer ones? We have just two episodes left this year :-( but they look as though they should be good.

BBJo

-

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Thursday, June 26, 2008 12:16 PM

Re: Re: Question about amt. of " viable " members here

Yay!<-- also a Pagan and Doctor Who fan. :D

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an ya can't forget that not only did the roman gods come from their tribal deities, but what they got from the Etruscans

Peter Kebbell Jun 28, 2008 1:33 PM Re: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here

Oh crumbs.... well, I can try! Although it does get quite complicated with the various theories that are around (and I'm a few years out of date, so it's possible that there are different theories nowadays!)The oldest known religions are those of ancient Sumer and Egypt, although both were already very complex and well developed by the time we know anything about them (around 3,000 BCE), so were probably already ancient at that point. It's pretty likely that religious belief has been around since humanity (or its predecessors) became sentient!I don't know exactly how old the Roman gods are - the Roman republic itself appeared around 750 BCE, and as far as I know, the religion that developed in that has its roots in the "clan" religions that were encompassed in the republic. Same with Greek gods. Judaism in anything approaching its modern form developed around the time of the Babylonian exile (c.500 BCE), but has roots going back to the tribal peoples of modern day Israel / Palestine, along with roots in Sumerian and Egyptian religions. Christianity in its modern form developed over the first 3 or 4 centuries CE...BBPeter

2008/6/28 Peter VV <swpgh01 (AT) talk21 (DOT) com>:

Well, you certainly did big him up there!

I shall wait and see if the expert replies.

Peter vv

jo <jo.heartwork >

Friday, 27 June, 2008 11:19:33 PMRe: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here

ï»¿ Peter's your man for that answer - he has discussed with world experts, and might even be one himself.

Jo

-

Peter VV

@gro ups.com

Friday, June 27, 2008 8:33 PM

Re: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here

Is it possible to put an age on a faith ( you said old gods ), I wonder what the oldest faith would be?

Peter vv

jo <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com>@gro ups.com

Thursday, 26 June, 2008 11:15:44 PMRe: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here

ï»¿ Yes, people do believe in all the old gods.

Jo

-

Peter VV

@gro ups.com

Thursday, June 26, 2008 10:17 PM

Re: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here

Realy? worship as in believe they exist sort of thing? wow, does anyone believe on Roman gods still? are they two sides of the same coin, dont wish to offend, I realy am ignorant, sorry.

Peter vv

Blue Rose <bluerose156@ gmail.com>@gro ups.com

Thursday, 26 June, 2008 10:12:20 PMRe: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here

I worship Greek gods.

On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Peter VV <swpgh01 (AT) talk21 (DOT) com> wrote:

Boy am I ignorant, I dont understand any of this?

Peter vv

Blue Rose <bluerose156@ gmail.com>@gro ups.com

Thursday, 26 June, 2008 9:28:08 PMRe: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here

Not all, but working on it! The current one is my favorite. He is quite squee.

I'm a Greek polytheist. I'd describe myself more as either syncretic or "intelligently eclectic". I don't really mix 'n' match, just fill holes.

On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 4:20 PM, jo <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com> wrote:

Oooooh! I feel some chat coming on :-)

What path are you (I'm eclectic and Druid (but not wholly)) and have you seen all the old Doctors? or did you come in on the newer ones? We have just two episodes left this year :-( but they look as though they should be good.

BBJo

-

Blue Rose

@gro ups.com

Thursday, June 26, 2008 12:16 PM

Re: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here

Yay!<-- also a Pagan and Doctor Who fan. :D

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I personally like heavy metal, Doctor Who, Paganism and theparanormal, photography, gardening, gentle walks etc.What do you like?

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put it in language a sheep can understand please?

Peter vv

fraggle <EBbrewpunx Sent: Monday, 30 June, 2008 8:25:20 PMRe: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here

an ya can't forget that not only did the roman gods come from their tribal deities, but what they got from the Etruscans

Peter Kebbell Jun 28, 2008 1:33 PM @gro ups.com Re: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here

Oh crumbs.... well, I can try! Although it does get quite complicated with the various theories that are around (and I'm a few years out of date, so it's possible that there are different theories nowadays!)The oldest known religions are those of ancient Sumer and Egypt, although both were already very complex and well developed by the time we know anything about them (around 3,000 BCE), so were probably already ancient at that point. It's pretty likely that religious belief has been around since humanity (or its predecessors) became sentient!I don't know exactly how old the Roman gods are - the Roman republic itself appeared around 750 BCE, and as far as I know, the religion that developed in that has its roots in the "clan" religions that were encompassed in the republic. Same with Greek gods. Judaism in anything approaching its modern form developed around the time of the Babylonian exile (c.500 BCE), but has roots

going back to the tribal peoples of modern day Israel / Palestine, along with roots in Sumerian and Egyptian religions. Christianity in its modern form developed over the first 3 or 4 centuries CE...BBPeter

2008/6/28 Peter VV <swpgh01 (AT) talk21 (DOT) com>:

Well, you certainly did big him up there!

I shall wait and see if the expert replies.

Peter vv

jo <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com>@gro ups.com

Friday, 27 June, 2008 11:19:33 PMRe: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here

ï»¿ Peter's your man for that answer - he has discussed with world experts, and might even be one himself.

Jo

-

Peter VV

@gro ups.com

Friday, June 27, 2008 8:33 PM

Re: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here

Is it possible to put an age on a faith ( you said old gods ), I wonder what the oldest faith would be?

Peter vv

jo <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com>@gro ups.com

Thursday, 26 June, 2008 11:15:44 PMRe: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here

ï»¿ Yes, people do believe in all the old gods.

Jo

-

Peter VV

@gro ups.com

Thursday, June 26, 2008 10:17 PM

Re: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here

Realy? worship as in believe they exist sort of thing? wow, does anyone believe on Roman gods still? are they two sides of the same coin, dont wish to offend, I realy am ignorant, sorry.

Peter vv

Blue Rose <bluerose156@ gmail.com>@gro ups.com

Thursday, 26 June, 2008 10:12:20 PMRe: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here

I worship Greek gods.

On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Peter VV <swpgh01 (AT) talk21 (DOT) com> wrote:

Boy am I ignorant, I dont understand any of this?

Peter vv

Blue Rose <bluerose156@ gmail.com>@gro ups.com

Thursday, 26 June, 2008 9:28:08 PMRe: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here

Not all, but working on it! The current one is my favorite. He is quite squee.

I'm a Greek polytheist. I'd describe myself more as either syncretic or "intelligently eclectic". I don't really mix 'n' match, just fill holes.

On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 4:20 PM, jo <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com> wrote:

Oooooh! I feel some chat coming on :-)

What path are you (I'm eclectic and Druid (but not wholly)) and have you seen all the old Doctors? or did you come in on the newer ones? We have just two episodes left this year :-( but they look as though they should be good.

BBJo

-

Blue Rose

@gro ups.com

Thursday, June 26, 2008 12:16 PM

Re: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here

Yay!<-- also a Pagan and Doctor Who fan. :D

On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 2:54 AM, heartwerk <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com> wrote:

I personally like heavy metal, Doctor Who, Paganism and theparanormal, photography, gardening, gentle walks etc.What do you like?

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Hi Peter

OK, let me translate for you...

Baaaaaa, baa, baaaaa, baa, ba baaaaaaaaaaaaa.

BB

Peter

On 30/06/2008, Peter VV <swpgh01 wrote:

> put it in language a sheep can understand please?

>

> Peter vv

>

> fraggle <EBbrewpunx

>

> Monday, 30 June, 2008 8:25:20 PM

> Re: Re: Question about amt. of " viable " members here

>

> an ya can't forget that not only did the roman gods come from their tribal

> deities, but what they got from the Etruscans

>

> Peter Kebbell

> Jun 28, 2008 1:33 PM

> @gro ups.com

> Re: Re: Question about amt. of " viable " members here

>

> Oh crumbs.... well, I can try! Although it does get quite complicated with

> the various theories that are around (and I'm a few years out of date, so

> it's possible that there are different theories nowadays!)

>

> The oldest known religions are those of ancient Sumer and Egypt, although

> both were already very complex and well developed by the time we know

> anything about them (around 3,000 BCE), so were probably already ancient at

> that point. It's pretty likely that religious belief has been around since

> humanity (or its predecessors) became sentient!

>

> I don't know exactly how old the Roman gods are - the Roman republic itself

> appeared around 750 BCE, and as far as I know, the religion that developed

> in that has its roots in the " clan " religions that were encompassed in the

> republic. Same with Greek gods. Judaism in anything approaching its modern

> form developed around the time of the Babylonian exile (c.500 BCE), but has

> roots going back to the tribal peoples of modern day Israel / Palestine,

> along with roots in Sumerian and Egyptian religions. Christianity in its

> modern form developed over the first 3 or 4 centuries CE...

>

> BB

> Peter

>

> 2008/6/28 Peter VV <swpgh01 (AT) talk21 (DOT) com>:

>

> Well, you certainly did big him up there!

> I shall wait and see if the expert replies.

>

> Peter vv

>

> jo <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com>

> @gro ups.com

>

> Friday, 27 June, 2008 11:19:33 PM

> Re: Re: Question about amt. of " viable " members here

>

> ï»¿

> Peter's your man for that answer - he has discussed with world experts, and

> might even be one himself.

>

> Jo

>

> -

> Peter VV

> @gro ups.com

> Friday, June 27, 2008 8:33 PM

> Re: Re: Question about amt. of " viable " members here

>

> Is it possible to put an age on a faith ( you said old gods ), I wonder what

> the oldest faith would be?

>

> Peter vv

>

> jo <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com>

> @gro ups.com

>

> Thursday, 26 June, 2008 11:15:44 PM

> Re: Re: Question about amt. of " viable " members here

>

> ï»¿

> Yes, people do believe in all the old gods.

>

> Jo

>

> -

> Peter VV

> @gro ups.com

> Thursday, June 26, 2008 10:17 PM

> Re: Re: Question about amt. of " viable " members here

>

> Realy? worship as in believe they exist sort of thing? wow, does anyone

> believe on Roman gods still? are they two sides of the same coin, dont wish

> to offend, I realy am ignorant, sorry.

>

> Peter vv

>

> Blue Rose <bluerose156@ gmail.com>

> @gro ups.com

>

> Thursday, 26 June, 2008 10:12:20 PM

> Re: Re: Question about amt. of " viable " members here

>

> I worship Greek gods.

>

> On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Peter VV <swpgh01 (AT) talk21 (DOT) com> wrote:

>

> Boy am I ignorant, I dont understand any of this?

>

> Peter vv

>

> Blue Rose <bluerose156@ gmail.com>

> @gro ups.com

>

> Thursday, 26 June, 2008 9:28:08 PM

> Re: Re: Question about amt. of " viable " members here

>

> Not all, but working on it! The current one is my favorite. He is quite

> squee.

>

> I'm a Greek polytheist. I'd describe myself more as either syncretic or

> " intelligently eclectic " . I don't really mix 'n' match, just fill holes.

>

> On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 4:20 PM, jo <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com> wrote:

>

> Oooooh! I feel some chat coming on :-)

>

> What path are you (I'm eclectic and Druid (but not wholly)) and have you

> seen all the old Doctors? or did you come in on the newer ones? We have

> just two episodes left this year :-( but they look as though they should be

> good.

>

> BB

> Jo

>

> -

> Blue Rose

> @gro ups.com

> Thursday, June 26, 2008 12:16 PM

> Re: Re: Question about amt. of " viable " members here

>

> Yay!

>

> <-- also a Pagan and Doctor Who fan.

>

> :D

>

> On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 2:54 AM, heartwerk <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com> wrote:

>

> I personally like heavy metal, Doctor Who, Paganism and the

> paranormal, photography, gardening, gentle walks etc.

>

> What do you like?

>

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Why didnt you say that in the first place?

Peter vv

Peter Kebbell <metalscarab Sent: Tuesday, 1 July, 2008 10:51:44 AMRe: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here

Hi PeterOK, let me translate for you...Baaaaaa, baa, baaaaa, baa, ba baaaaaaaaaaaaa.BBPeterOn 30/06/2008, Peter VV <swpgh01 (AT) talk21 (DOT) com> wrote:> put it in language a sheep can understand please?>>> Peter vv>>>> > fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.net>> @gro ups.com> Monday, 30 June, 2008 8:25:20 PM> Re: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here>>> an ya can't forget that not

only did the roman gods come from their tribal> deities, but what they got from the Etruscans>>>> > Peter Kebbell> Jun 28, 2008 1:33 PM> @gro ups.com> Re: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here>>> Oh crumbs.... well, I can try! Although it does get quite complicated with> the various theories that are around (and I'm a few years out of date, so> it's possible that there are different theories nowadays!)>> The oldest known religions are those of ancient Sumer and Egypt, although> both were already very complex and well developed by the time we know> anything about them (around 3,000 BCE), so were probably already ancient at> that point. It's pretty likely that religious belief has been around since> humanity (or its predecessors)

became sentient!>> I don't know exactly how old the Roman gods are - the Roman republic itself> appeared around 750 BCE, and as far as I know, the religion that developed> in that has its roots in the "clan" religions that were encompassed in the> republic. Same with Greek gods. Judaism in anything approaching its modern> form developed around the time of the Babylonian exile (c.500 BCE), but has> roots going back to the tribal peoples of modern day Israel / Palestine,> along with roots in Sumerian and Egyptian religions. Christianity in its> modern form developed over the first 3 or 4 centuries CE...>> BB> Peter>>>>> 2008/6/28 Peter VV <swpgh01 (AT) talk21 (DOT) com>:>> Well, you certainly did big him up there!> I shall wait and see if the expert replies.>>> Peter vv>>>>

> jo <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com>> @gro ups.com>> Friday, 27 June, 2008 11:19:33 PM> Re: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here>>> ï»¿> Peter's your man for that answer - he has discussed with world experts, and> might even be one himself.>> Jo>> -> Peter VV> @gro ups.com> Friday, June 27, 2008 8:33 PM> Re: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here>> Is it possible to put an age on a faith ( you said old gods ), I wonder what> the oldest faith would be?>> Peter vv>>>> > jo <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com>> @gro

ups.com>> Thursday, 26 June, 2008 11:15:44 PM> Re: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here>>> ï»¿> Yes, people do believe in all the old gods.>> Jo>> -> Peter VV> @gro ups.com> Thursday, June 26, 2008 10:17 PM> Re: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here>> Realy? worship as in believe they exist sort of thing? wow, does anyone> believe on Roman gods still? are they two sides of the same coin, dont wish> to offend, I realy am ignorant, sorry.>>> Peter vv>>>> > Blue Rose <bluerose156@ gmail.com>> @gro ups.com>> Thursday, 26 June, 2008 10:12:20 PM> Subject:

Re: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here>>> I worship Greek gods.>> >>> On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Peter VV <swpgh01 (AT) talk21 (DOT) com> wrote:>> Boy am I ignorant, I dont understand any of this?>>> Peter vv>>>> > Blue Rose <bluerose156@ gmail.com>> @gro ups.com>> Thursday, 26 June, 2008 9:28:08 PM> Re: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here>>> Not all, but working on it! The current one is my favorite. He is quite> squee.>> I'm a Greek polytheist. I'd describe myself more as either syncretic or> "intelligently eclectic". I don't really mix 'n' match, just fill holes.> >>> On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at

4:20 PM, jo <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com> wrote:>> Oooooh! I feel some chat coming on :-)>> What path are you (I'm eclectic and Druid (but not wholly)) and have you> seen all the old Doctors? or did you come in on the newer ones? We have> just two episodes left this year :-( but they look as though they should be> good.>> BB> Jo>> -> Blue Rose> @gro ups.com> Thursday, June 26, 2008 12:16 PM> Re: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here>> Yay!>> <-- also a Pagan and Doctor Who fan.>> :D>>> On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 2:54 AM, heartwerk <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com> wrote:>> I personally like heavy metal, Doctor Who, Paganism and the> paranormal, photography, gardening,

gentle walks etc.>> What do you like?>>>>>> --> Email: bluerose156@ gmail.com> AIM: A Blue Rose 156 YM: blue_rose_156> http://x-bluerose- x.livejournal. com> ~> http://groups. / group/Boston_ Gothic> http://groups. / group/Boston_ Mystic> http://groups. / group/Boston- Pagans>>>> --> Email: bluerose156@ gmail.com> AIM: A Blue Rose 156 YM: blue_rose_156> http://x-bluerose- x.livejournal. com> ~> http://groups.

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because baaaablefish was down and he didn't have any way to translate it

Peter VV Jul 1, 2008 10:59 AM Re: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here

Why didnt you say that in the first place?

Peter vv

Peter Kebbell <metalscarab > Sent: Tuesday, 1 July, 2008 10:51:44 AMRe: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here

Hi PeterOK, let me translate for you...Baaaaaa, baa, baaaaa, baa, ba baaaaaaaaaaaaa.BBPeterOn 30/06/2008, Peter VV <swpgh01 (AT) talk21 (DOT) com> wrote:> put it in language a sheep can understand please?>>> Peter vv>>>> > fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.net>> @gro ups.com> Monday, 30 June, 2008 8:25:20 PM> Re: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here>>> an ya can't forget that not only did the roman gods come from their tribal> deities, but what they got from the Etruscans>>>> > Peter Kebbell> Jun 28, 2008 1:33 PM> @gro ups.com> Re: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here>>> Oh crumbs.... well, I can try! Although it does get quite complicated with> the various theories that are around (and I'm a few years out of date, so> it's possible that there are different theories nowadays!)>> The oldest known religions are those of ancient Sumer and Egypt, although> both were already very complex and well developed by the time we know> anything about them (around 3,000 BCE), so were probably already ancient at> that point. It's pretty likely that religious belief has been around since> humanity (or its predecessors) became sentient!>> I don't know exactly how old the Roman gods are - the Roman republic itself> appeared around 750 BCE, and as far as I know, the religion that developed> in that has its roots in the "clan" religions that were encompassed in the> republic. Same with Greek gods. Judaism in anything approaching its modern> form developed around the time of the Babylonian exile (c.500 BCE), but has> roots going back to the tribal peoples of modern day Israel / Palestine,> along with roots in Sumerian and Egyptian religions. Christianity in its> modern form developed over the first 3 or 4 centuries CE...>> BB> Peter>>>>> 2008/6/28 Peter VV <swpgh01 (AT) talk21 (DOT) com>:>> Well, you certainly did big him up there!> I shall wait and see if the expert replies.>>> Peter vv>>>> > jo <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com>> @gro ups.com>> Friday, 27 June, 2008 11:19:33 PM> Re: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here>>> ï»¿> Peter's your man for that answer - he has discussed with world experts, and> might even be one himself.>> Jo>> -> Peter VV> @gro ups.com> Friday, June 27, 2008 8:33 PM> Re: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here>> Is it possible to put an age on a faith ( you said old gods ), I wonder what> the oldest faith would be?>> Peter vv>>>> > jo <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com>> @gro ups.com>> Thursday, 26 June, 2008 11:15:44 PM> Re: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here>>> ï»¿> Yes, people do believe in all the old gods.>> Jo>> -> Peter VV> @gro ups.com> Thursday, June 26, 2008 10:17 PM> Re: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here>> Realy? worship as in believe they exist sort of thing? wow, does anyone> believe on Roman gods still? are they two sides of the same coin, dont wish> to offend, I realy am ignorant, sorry.>>> Peter vv>>>> > Blue Rose <bluerose156@ gmail.com>> @gro ups.com>> Thursday, 26 June, 2008 10:12:20 PM> Re: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here>>> I worship Greek gods.>> >>> On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Peter VV <swpgh01 (AT) talk21 (DOT) com> wrote:>> Boy am I ignorant, I dont understand any of this?>>> Peter vv>>>> > Blue Rose <bluerose156@ gmail.com>> @gro ups.com>> Thursday, 26 June, 2008 9:28:08 PM> Re: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here>>> Not all, but working on it! The current one is my favorite. He is quite> squee.>> I'm a Greek polytheist. I'd describe myself more as either syncretic or> "intelligently eclectic". I don't really mix 'n' match, just fill holes.> >>> On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 4:20 PM, jo <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com> wrote:>> Oooooh! I feel some chat coming on :-)>> What path are you (I'm eclectic and Druid (but not wholly)) and have you> seen all the old Doctors? or did you come in on the newer ones? We have> just two episodes left this year :-( but they look as though they should be> good.>> BB> Jo>> -> Blue Rose> @gro ups.com> Thursday, June 26, 2008 12:16 PM> Re: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here>> Yay!>> <-- also a Pagan and Doctor Who fan.>> :D>>> On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 2:54 AM, heartwerk <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com> wrote:>> I personally like heavy metal, Doctor Who, Paganism and the> paranormal, photography, gardening, gentle walks etc.>> What do you like?>>>>>> --> Email: bluerose156@ gmail.com> AIM: A Blue Rose 156 YM: blue_rose_156> http://x-bluerose- x.livejournal. com> ~> http://groups. / group/Boston_ Gothic> http://groups. / group/Boston_ Mystic> http://groups. / group/Boston- Pagans>>>> --> Email: bluerose156@ gmail.com> AIM: A Blue Rose 156 YM: blue_rose_156> http://x-bluerose- x.livejournal. com> ~> http://groups. / group/Boston_ Gothic> http://groups. / group/Boston_ Mystic> http://groups. / group/Boston- Pagans> ____________ _________ _________ __>> Not happy with your email address?> Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now> at >>>> --> Email: bluerose156@ gmail.com> AIM: A Blue Rose 156 YM: blue_rose_156> http://x-bluerose- x.livejournal. com> ~> http://groups. / group/Boston_ Gothic> http://groups. / group/Boston_ Mystic> http://groups. / group/Boston- Pagans>>> ____________ _________ _________ __> Not happy with your email address?> Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now> at >> ____________ _________ _________ __> Not happy with your email address?> Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now> at >> ____________ _________ _________ __> Not happy with your email address?> Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now> at >>> "We now know that a neo-conservative is an arsonist who sets the house on> fire and six years later boasts that no one can put it out." - Bill Moyers>>>> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _> Not happy with your email address?.> Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now> at http://uk.docs. / ymail/new. html

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wasnt down, he was just sad, now stick him back in your ear!

Peter vv

fraggle <EBbrewpunx Sent: Tuesday, 1 July, 2008 8:06:13 PMRe: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here

because baaaablefish was down and he didn't have any way to translate it

Peter VV Jul 1, 2008 10:59 AM @gro ups.com Re: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here

Why didnt you say that in the first place?

Peter vv

Peter Kebbell <metalscarab@ gmail.com>@gro ups.comTuesday, 1 July, 2008 10:51:44 AMRe: Re: Question about amt. of "viable" members here