Guest guest Report post Posted March 7, 2007 She doesn't NEED meat, no matter what the doctor says. Beans have lots of protein, so do oatmeal and quinoa. Tofu is great if you can get her to eat it. I get canned beans, whatever kind looks good (kidney beans are our favorite), then I rinse them in a colander to get some of the salt off that they're packed with, and voila. Super fast, super easy, and very healthy!! You can mash them up for little babies. Oatmeal has always been one of my kids' favorites. Plain cooked oats and some mashed peaches or bananas or applesauce, or any other fruit. You can use jar baby food for that. You could do the same thing with quinoa and vegetable baby food. Stephanie <stargazerlily72 wrote: Hi. I am new to the veggie thing and I am also a first time Mom. My daughter is starting to eat " regular " food and I was told by the ped. today that she needs meat or another source of protien. Simple for me to figure out for an adult but what about a baby/toddler? Does anyone have any sample menus or ideas? I really don't want to go the route of processed baby dinners. Thanks SO much. Kadee Sedtal Brain: " Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering? " Pinky: " I think so, Brain, but if the plural of mouse is mice, wouldn't the plural of spouse be spice? " Check out my new , Classical 2 at http://launch.classical2/ Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Autos' Green Center. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 7, 2007 Thanks. It is SO hard trying to explain to people ESPECIALLY the Grandmothers, that my daughter isn't going to die, grow an extra head or be mentally handicapped if she doesn't have meat. LOL! I think it's even worse though with the cow milk issue! Ahhhh, living MANY miles away helps..hehe , Kadee M <abbey_road3012 wrote: > > She doesn't NEED meat, no matter what the doctor says. Beans have lots of protein, so do oatmeal and quinoa. Tofu is great if you can get her to eat it. > > I get canned beans, whatever kind looks good (kidney beans are our favorite), then I rinse them in a colander to get some of the salt off that they're packed with, and voila. Super fast, super easy, and very healthy!! You can mash them up for little babies. Oatmeal has always been one of my kids' favorites. Plain cooked oats and some mashed peaches or bananas or applesauce, or any other fruit. You can use jar baby food for that. You could do the same thing with quinoa and vegetable baby food. > > > Stephanie <stargazerlily72 wrote: Hi. I am new to the veggie thing and I am also a first time Mom. My > daughter is starting to eat " regular " food and I was told by the ped. > today that she needs meat or another source of protien. Simple for me > to figure out for an adult but what about a baby/toddler? Does anyone > have any sample menus or ideas? I really don't want to go the route of > processed baby dinners. Thanks SO much. Kadee Sedtal > > Brain: " Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering? " > Pinky: " I think so, Brain, but if the plural of mouse is mice, wouldn't the plural of spouse be spice? " > > > Check out my new , Classical 2 at http://launch.classical2/ > Looking for earth-friendly autos? > Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Autos' Green Center. > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 8, 2007 if she is past her first birthday, whole wheat pasta and brown rice have a bunch of protein, too. when i had a toddler, she thought tofu was only for squishing, not eating. Kadee M <abbey_road3012 wrote: She doesn't NEED meat, no matter what the doctor says. Beans have lots of protein, so do oatmeal and quinoa. Tofu is great if you can get her to eat it. I get canned beans, whatever kind looks good (kidney beans are our favorite), then I rinse them in a colander to get some of the salt off that they're packed with, and voila. Super fast, super easy, and very healthy!! You can mash them up for little babies. Oatmeal has always been one of my kids' favorites. Plain cooked oats and some mashed peaches or bananas or applesauce, or any other fruit. You can use jar baby food for that. You could do the same thing with quinoa and vegetable baby food. Stephanie <stargazerlily72 wrote: Hi. I am new to the veggie thing and I am also a first time Mom. My daughter is starting to eat " regular " food and I was told by the ped. today that she needs meat or another source of protien. Simple for me to figure out for an adult but what about a baby/toddler? Does anyone have any sample menus or ideas? I really don't want to go the route of processed baby dinners. Thanks SO much. Kadee Sedtal Brain: " Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering? " Pinky: " I think so, Brain, but if the plural of mouse is mice, wouldn't the plural of spouse be spice? " Check out my new , Classical 2 at http://launch.classical2/ Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Autos' Green Center. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 8, 2007 My son's first favorites were kidney beans (we cut them in half when he first started eating them) and small cubes of tofu (he still likes it, plain right from the box even now - and has only recently said he likes 'hot' tofu - which is tofu that has been cooked in any kind of manner LOL). Garbanzos (chickpeas or as he says CARbonzos) are also very good (plus they have a lot of calcium). Some varieties of beans do not have added salt (we get some organic ones that do not have salt, but we still rinse them because of the liquid being a bit thick - it's carageenan I think). We never got hassled, but when our son was first eating solids, we were lacto/ovo vegetarians (before we really figured out his milk allergy), and we had to report once a month for the stuff he ate the day before our WIC visit. Sigh. We were told he didn't get enough vitamin C even though he ate about a half to 3/4 of a cup of peppers that day...so I knew he was fine. they told me he HAD to have juice with vit. C added. Sigh. When they don't really know, you have to provide the information to them (and even then some of them don't 'get' it). We also used to get plain unsweetened applesauce, and I made a lot of my own other fruit 'sauces' (pineapple, peach, pear, etc). You can probably find some helpful books at the library - one of my favorites from those early, unsure years was (and still is) Super Baby Foods. She's got lists in there about what stuff has a high protein count. We are lucky in that our Dr. never pushed anything on us, and she actually listens to what we have to say, and we work together to find solutions (especially in the early months when we had some problems ). Missie On 3/7/07, Kadee M <abbey_road3012 wrote: > > She doesn't NEED meat, no matter what the doctor says. Beans have lots > of protein, so do oatmeal and quinoa. Tofu is great if you can get her to > eat it. > > I get canned beans, whatever kind looks good (kidney beans are our > favorite), then I rinse them in a colander to get some of the salt off that > they're packed with, and voila. Super fast, super easy, and very healthy!! > You can mash them up for little babies. Oatmeal has always been one of my > kids' favorites. Plain cooked oats and some mashed peaches or bananas or > applesauce, or any other fruit. You can use jar baby food for that. You > could do the same thing with quinoa and vegetable baby food. > > Stephanie <stargazerlily72 <stargazerlily72%40>> wrote: > Hi. I am new to the veggie thing and I am also a first time Mom. My > daughter is starting to eat " regular " food and I was told by the ped. > today that she needs meat or another source of protien. Simple for me > to figure out for an adult but what about a baby/toddler? Does anyone > have any sample menus or ideas? I really don't want to go the route of > processed baby dinners. Thanks SO much. > > > > > > Kadee Sedtal > > Brain: " Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering? " > Pinky: " I think so, Brain, but if the plural of mouse is mice, wouldn't > the plural of spouse be spice? " > > Check out my new , Classical 2 at > http://launch.classical2/ > > > Looking for earth-friendly autos? > Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Autos' Green Center. > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 8, 2007 My son loves carrots! We use a blender to puree baby food at home. But we use baby cereal to mix up combinations. He tried oatmeal with pears yesterday morning and LOVED it! I'm going to find some other combinations to try at home too. Jessica, Robert, and Baby Jesse Life is an adventure in forgiveness. Norman Cousins (1915 - 1990) Stephanie <stargazerlily72 Wednesday, March 7, 2007 5:01:58 PM Re: ideas.... Thanks. It is SO hard trying to explain to people ESPECIALLY the Grandmothers, that my daughter isn't going to die, grow an extra head or be mentally handicapped if she doesn't have meat. LOL! I think it's even worse though with the cow milk issue! Ahhhh, living MANY miles away helps..hehe @gro ups.com, Kadee M <abbey_road3012@ ...> wrote: > > She doesn't NEED meat, no matter what the doctor says. Beans have lots of protein, so do oatmeal and quinoa. Tofu is great if you can get her to eat it. > > I get canned beans, whatever kind looks good (kidney beans are our favorite), then I rinse them in a colander to get some of the salt off that they're packed with, and voila. Super fast, super easy, and very healthy!! You can mash them up for little babies. Oatmeal has always been one of my kids' favorites. Plain cooked oats and some mashed peaches or bananas or applesauce, or any other fruit. You can use jar baby food for that. You could do the same thing with quinoa and vegetable baby food. > > > Stephanie <stargazerlily72@ ...> wrote: Hi. I am new to the veggie thing and I am also a first time Mom. My > daughter is starting to eat " regular " food and I was told by the ped. > today that she needs meat or another source of protien. Simple for me > to figure out for an adult but what about a baby/toddler? Does anyone > have any sample menus or ideas? I really don't want to go the route of > processed baby dinners. Thanks SO much. Kadee Sedtal > > Brain: " Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering? " > Pinky: " I think so, Brain, but if the plural of mouse is mice, wouldn't the plural of spouse be spice? " > > > Check out my new , Classical 2 at http://launch. groups.. com classical2/ ------------ --------- --------- --- > Looking for earth-friendly autos? > Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Autos' Green Center. > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 8, 2007 You're new... you didn't see the video of my 3 year old saying her state capitals, right? If you'd like to show it to these meat-pushing grandmothers of yours, please do!! Go to YouTube and type " Leah State Capitals " in the search bar. I would copy and paste the link but I can't do that with my e-mail, and is being a dweeb again and I can't seem to get to the group's home page. She now knows 25 of them. She only knew I think 22 or 23 when the video was made. This child has never eaten meat, and eats almost no milk products or eggs. See if any meat eating kids you know can remember half the state capitals, sing very nearly on-key, make a sound out of a trumpet, be gentle enough to play with mice, and have a greater amount of common sense than the average adult at the age of three!!! I'm not proud or anything... can you tell? I get soooooooo mad when people tell me my kids (or any kids for that matter) can't be healthy on a vegetarian diet. My kids are sick waaaaaay less than most other kids, and developmentally they're amazing!!! No child needs meat... vegetarian children are LUCKY!!! Stephanie <stargazerlily72 wrote: Thanks. It is SO hard trying to explain to people ESPECIALLY the Grandmothers, that my daughter isn't going to die, grow an extra head or be mentally handicapped if she doesn't have meat. LOL! I think it's even worse though with the cow milk issue! Ahhhh, living MANY miles away helps..hehe , Kadee M <abbey_road3012 wrote: > > She doesn't NEED meat, no matter what the doctor says. Beans have lots of protein, so do oatmeal and quinoa. Tofu is great if you can get her to eat it. > > I get canned beans, whatever kind looks good (kidney beans are our favorite), then I rinse them in a colander to get some of the salt off that they're packed with, and voila. Super fast, super easy, and very healthy!! You can mash them up for little babies. Oatmeal has always been one of my kids' favorites. Plain cooked oats and some mashed peaches or bananas or applesauce, or any other fruit. You can use jar baby food for that. You could do the same thing with quinoa and vegetable baby food. > > > Stephanie <stargazerlily72 wrote: Hi. I am new to the veggie thing and I am also a first time Mom. My > daughter is starting to eat " regular " food and I was told by the ped. > today that she needs meat or another source of protien. Simple for me > to figure out for an adult but what about a baby/toddler? Does anyone > have any sample menus or ideas? I really don't want to go the route of > processed baby dinners. Thanks SO much. > > > > > > > Kadee Sedtal > > Brain: " Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering? " > Pinky: " I think so, Brain, but if the plural of mouse is mice, wouldn't the plural of spouse be spice? " > > > Check out my new , Classical 2 at http://launch.classical2/ > > > > > > > > Looking for earth-friendly autos? > Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Autos' Green Center. > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 8, 2007 Ah, WIC. We were on WIC for a year after Jeffery was born, and I swear those people are out to kill entire families. They wanted to know every bit of the reason we don't eat meat, and it still wasn't good enough. They did NOT like our diet!!! Who cares that the kids are eating lots of plain fruits and vegetables and beans and other good things. And I know for a fact they weren't hounding those fat women who brought in their fat children the way they did me. Silly WIC. One of the classes I went to was about iron. The lady teaching the class asked us where you can get iron. Every type of meat was mentioned. Someone even said milk but was corrected. I was the only one in a really big class that said beans and spinach!! I started fuming when the teacher said, " If your children are getting plenty of meat, they're probably getting all the iron they need. " Bah!! Whatever, all our blood iron levels were perfectly normal when they tested us. It's probably normal in the little fat kids too. Hmph. Missie Ward <mszzzi wrote: My son's first favorites were kidney beans (we cut them in half when he first started eating them) and small cubes of tofu (he still likes it, plain right from the box even now - and has only recently said he likes 'hot' tofu - which is tofu that has been cooked in any kind of manner LOL). Garbanzos (chickpeas or as he says CARbonzos) are also very good (plus they have a lot of calcium). Some varieties of beans do not have added salt (we get some organic ones that do not have salt, but we still rinse them because of the liquid being a bit thick - it's carageenan I think). We never got hassled, but when our son was first eating solids, we were lacto/ovo vegetarians (before we really figured out his milk allergy), and we had to report once a month for the stuff he ate the day before our WIC visit. Sigh. We were told he didn't get enough vitamin C even though he ate about a half to 3/4 of a cup of peppers that day...so I knew he was fine. they told me he HAD to have juice with vit. C added. Sigh. When they don't really know, you have to provide the information to them (and even then some of them don't 'get' it). We also used to get plain unsweetened applesauce, and I made a lot of my own other fruit 'sauces' (pineapple, peach, pear, etc). You can probably find some helpful books at the library - one of my favorites from those early, unsure years was (and still is) Super Baby Foods. She's got lists in there about what stuff has a high protein count. We are lucky in that our Dr. never pushed anything on us, and she actually listens to what we have to say, and we work together to find solutions (especially in the early months when we had some problems ). Missie On 3/7/07, Kadee M <abbey_road3012 wrote: > > She doesn't NEED meat, no matter what the doctor says. Beans have lots > of protein, so do oatmeal and quinoa. Tofu is great if you can get her to > eat it. > > I get canned beans, whatever kind looks good (kidney beans are our > favorite), then I rinse them in a colander to get some of the salt off that > they're packed with, and voila. Super fast, super easy, and very healthy!! > You can mash them up for little babies. Oatmeal has always been one of my > kids' favorites. Plain cooked oats and some mashed peaches or bananas or > applesauce, or any other fruit. You can use jar baby food for that. You > could do the same thing with quinoa and vegetable baby food. > > Stephanie <stargazerlily72 <stargazerlily72%40>> wrote: > Hi. I am new to the veggie thing and I am also a first time Mom. My > daughter is starting to eat " regular " food and I was told by the ped. > today that she needs meat or another source of protien. Simple for me > to figure out for an adult but what about a baby/toddler? Does anyone > have any sample menus or ideas? I really don't want to go the route of > processed baby dinners. Thanks SO much. > > > > > > Kadee Sedtal > > Brain: " Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering? " > Pinky: " I think so, Brain, but if the plural of mouse is mice, wouldn't > the plural of spouse be spice? " > > Check out my new , Classical 2 at > http://launch.classical2/ > > > Looking for earth-friendly autos? > Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Autos' Green Center. > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 8, 2007 How old is your daughter? Is she just starting solids or table food? Ilse >>> stargazerlily72 03/07/07 4:38 PM >>> Hi. I am new to the veggie thing and I am also a first time Mom. My daughter is starting to eat " regular " food and I was told by the ped. today that she needs meat or another source of protien. Simple for me to figure out for an adult but what about a baby/toddler? Does anyone have any sample menus or ideas? I really don't want to go the route of processed baby dinners. Thanks SO much. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 8, 2007 Almost 10 mos old. She has been eating the baby food for awhile and some table food. Moving her towards more table food. She was 8 weeks premature, so I'm not sure where she falls for the " feeding timeline " ,if there is such a thing? , " Ilse Knecht " <iknecht wrote: > > How old is your daughter? Is she just starting solids or table food? > > Ilse > > >>> stargazerlily72 03/07/07 4:38 PM >>> > Hi. I am new to the veggie thing and I am also a first time Mom. My > daughter is starting to eat " regular " food and I was told by the ped. > today that she needs meat or another source of protien. Simple for me > to figure out for an adult but what about a baby/toddler? Does anyone > have any sample menus or ideas? I really don't want to go the route of > processed baby dinners. Thanks SO much. > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 9, 2007 I pretty much went off of WIC when I became veg, a couple months after my daughter was born. Other than the beans, they don't really give you anything that is really healthy for you. At first, they sent me a lot of post cards, but then I moved so now I don't have to deal with them anymore. I don't understand why they don't let you get fresh fruits and veggies instead of canned juice (except carrots) and if you are breastfeeding, they make you get tuna whether you will eat it or not. I still have a lot of beans from them though, because I am lazy and never plan out what I am going to eat in time to soak the beans so I usually use a can. (I know, not the best. . .) Laura Kadee M <abbey_road3012 wrote: Ah, WIC. We were on WIC for a year after Jeffery was born, and I swear those people are out to kill entire families. They wanted to know every bit of the reason we don't eat meat, and it still wasn't good enough. They did NOT like our diet!!! Who cares that the kids are eating lots of plain fruits and vegetables and beans and other good things. And I know for a fact they weren't hounding those fat women who brought in their fat children the way they did me. Silly WIC. One of the classes I went to was about iron. The lady teaching the class asked us where you can get iron. Every type of meat was mentioned. Someone even said milk but was corrected. I was the only one in a really big class that said beans and spinach!! I started fuming when the teacher said, " If your children are getting plenty of meat, they're probably getting all the iron they need. " Bah!! Whatever, all our blood iron levels were perfectly normal when they tested us. It's probably normal in the little fat kids too. Hmph. Missie Ward <mszzzi wrote: My son's first favorites were kidney beans (we cut them in half when he first started eating them) and small cubes of tofu (he still likes it, plain right from the box even now - and has only recently said he likes 'hot' tofu - which is tofu that has been cooked in any kind of manner LOL). Garbanzos (chickpeas or as he says CARbonzos) are also very good (plus they have a lot of calcium). Some varieties of beans do not have added salt (we get some organic ones that do not have salt, but we still rinse them because of the liquid being a bit thick - it's carageenan I think). We never got hassled, but when our son was first eating solids, we were lacto/ovo vegetarians (before we really figured out his milk allergy), and we had to report once a month for the stuff he ate the day before our WIC visit. Sigh. We were told he didn't get enough vitamin C even though he ate about a half to 3/4 of a cup of peppers that day...so I knew he was fine. they told me he HAD to have juice with vit. C added. Sigh. When they don't really know, you have to provide the information to them (and even then some of them don't 'get' it). We also used to get plain unsweetened applesauce, and I made a lot of my own other fruit 'sauces' (pineapple, peach, pear, etc). You can probably find some helpful books at the library - one of my favorites from those early, unsure years was (and still is) Super Baby Foods. She's got lists in there about what stuff has a high protein count. We are lucky in that our Dr. never pushed anything on us, and she actually listens to what we have to say, and we work together to find solutions (especially in the early months when we had some problems ). Missie On 3/7/07, Kadee M <abbey_road3012 wrote: > > She doesn't NEED meat, no matter what the doctor says. Beans have lots > of protein, so do oatmeal and quinoa. Tofu is great if you can get her to > eat it. > > I get canned beans, whatever kind looks good (kidney beans are our > favorite), then I rinse them in a colander to get some of the salt off that > they're packed with, and voila. Super fast, super easy, and very healthy!! > You can mash them up for little babies. Oatmeal has always been one of my > kids' favorites. Plain cooked oats and some mashed peaches or bananas or > applesauce, or any other fruit. You can use jar baby food for that. You > could do the same thing with quinoa and vegetable baby food. > > Stephanie <stargazerlily72 <stargazerlily72%40>> wrote: > Hi. I am new to the veggie thing and I am also a first time Mom. My > daughter is starting to eat " regular " food and I was told by the ped. > today that she needs meat or another source of protien. Simple for me > to figure out for an adult but what about a baby/toddler? Does anyone > have any sample menus or ideas? I really don't want to go the route of > processed baby dinners. Thanks SO much. > > > > > > Kadee Sedtal > > Brain: " Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering? " > Pinky: " I think so, Brain, but if the plural of mouse is mice, wouldn't > the plural of spouse be spice? " > > Check out my new , Classical 2 at > http://launch.classical2/ > > > Looking for earth-friendly autos? > Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Autos' Green Center. > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 9, 2007 Weaning babies is usually done by their developmental milestones. I have a Gerber sheet showing lots of really great information. I can scan it and send it to you if you'd like. When a baby can hold his own head up and after they are 4 months is generally when you can begin weaning, like we did. We started with cereal, and then went to 1st foods, his appetite has grown now so he's on 2nd foods. Usually you being feeding second foods around the time they can sit by themselves(which he's getting the hang of). It says when they can crawl or pull themselves up to stand is when you can begin 3rd and finger foods. When they walk, you can being grauduates. It's has lots of good info on it. You might be able to find it online. We get Gerber mailings (coupons, posters, etc) which is where we got it. Jessica, Robert, and Baby Jesse Life is an adventure in forgiveness. Norman Cousins (1915 - 1990) Stephanie <stargazerlily72 Thursday, March 8, 2007 5:56:29 PM Re: ideas.... Almost 10 mos old. She has been eating the baby food for awhile and some table food. Moving her towards more table food. She was 8 weeks premature, so I'm not sure where she falls for the " feeding timeline " ,if there is such a thing? @gro ups.com, " Ilse Knecht " <iknecht > wrote: > > How old is your daughter? Is she just starting solids or table food? > > Ilse > > >>> stargazerlily72@ ... 03/07/07 4:38 PM >>> > Hi. I am new to the veggie thing and I am also a first time Mom. My > daughter is starting to eat " regular " food and I was told by the ped. > today that she needs meat or another source of protien. Simple for me > to figure out for an adult but what about a baby/toddler? Does anyone > have any sample menus or ideas? I really don't want to go the route of > processed baby dinners. Thanks SO much. > ______________________________\ ____ Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Small Business. http://smallbusiness./domains/?p=BESTDEAL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 9, 2007 How does WIC work exactly? We were planning on setting up an appointment because were really cutting it close paying bills, and have been relying on donations for diapers and baby items. Is it worth our time? Jessica, Robert, and Baby Jesse Life is an adventure in forgiveness. Norman Cousins (1915 - 1990) L Friend <mountain_laurel1183 Thursday, March 8, 2007 6:58:59 PM Re: ideas.... I pretty much went off of WIC when I became veg, a couple months after my daughter was born. Other than the beans, they don't really give you anything that is really healthy for you. At first, they sent me a lot of post cards, but then I moved so now I don't have to deal with them anymore. I don't understand why they don't let you get fresh fruits and veggies instead of canned juice (except carrots) and if you are breastfeeding, they make you get tuna whether you will eat it or not. I still have a lot of beans from them though, because I am lazy and never plan out what I am going to eat in time to soak the beans so I usually use a can. (I know, not the best. . .) Laura Kadee M <abbey_road3012@ > wrote: Ah, WIC. We were on WIC for a year after Jeffery was born, and I swear those people are out to kill entire families. They wanted to know every bit of the reason we don't eat meat, and it still wasn't good enough. They did NOT like our diet!!! Who cares that the kids are eating lots of plain fruits and vegetables and beans and other good things. And I know for a fact they weren't hounding those fat women who brought in their fat children the way they did me. Silly WIC. One of the classes I went to was about iron. The lady teaching the class asked us where you can get iron. Every type of meat was mentioned. Someone even said milk but was corrected. I was the only one in a really big class that said beans and spinach!! I started fuming when the teacher said, " If your children are getting plenty of meat, they're probably getting all the iron they need. " Bah!! Whatever, all our blood iron levels were perfectly normal when they tested us. It's probably normal in the little fat kids too. Hmph. Missie Ward <mszzzi (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: My son's first favorites were kidney beans (we cut them in half when he first started eating them) and small cubes of tofu (he still likes it, plain right from the box even now - and has only recently said he likes 'hot' tofu - which is tofu that has been cooked in any kind of manner LOL). Garbanzos (chickpeas or as he says CARbonzos) are also very good (plus they have a lot of calcium). Some varieties of beans do not have added salt (we get some organic ones that do not have salt, but we still rinse them because of the liquid being a bit thick - it's carageenan I think). We never got hassled, but when our son was first eating solids, we were lacto/ovo vegetarians (before we really figured out his milk allergy), and we had to report once a month for the stuff he ate the day before our WIC visit. Sigh. We were told he didn't get enough vitamin C even though he ate about a half to 3/4 of a cup of peppers that day...so I knew he was fine. they told me he HAD to have juice with vit. C added. Sigh. When they don't really know, you have to provide the information to them (and even then some of them don't 'get' it). We also used to get plain unsweetened applesauce, and I made a lot of my own other fruit 'sauces' (pineapple, peach, pear, etc). You can probably find some helpful books at the library - one of my favorites from those early, unsure years was (and still is) Super Baby Foods. She's got lists in there about what stuff has a high protein count. We are lucky in that our Dr. never pushed anything on us, and she actually listens to what we have to say, and we work together to find solutions (especially in the early months when we had some problems ). Missie On 3/7/07, Kadee M <abbey_road3012@ > wrote: > > She doesn't NEED meat, no matter what the doctor says. Beans have lots > of protein, so do oatmeal and quinoa. Tofu is great if you can get her to > eat it. > > I get canned beans, whatever kind looks good (kidney beans are our > favorite), then I rinse them in a colander to get some of the salt off that > they're packed with, and voila. Super fast, super easy, and very healthy!! > You can mash them up for little babies. Oatmeal has always been one of my > kids' favorites. Plain cooked oats and some mashed peaches or bananas or > applesauce, or any other fruit. You can use jar baby food for that. You > could do the same thing with quinoa and vegetable baby food. > > Stephanie <stargazerlily72@ <stargazerlily72% 40> > wrote: > Hi. I am new to the veggie thing and I am also a first time Mom. My > daughter is starting to eat " regular " food and I was told by the ped. > today that she needs meat or another source of protien. Simple for me > to figure out for an adult but what about a baby/toddler? Does anyone > have any sample menus or ideas? I really don't want to go the route of > processed baby dinners. Thanks SO much. > > > > > > Kadee Sedtal > > Brain: " Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering? " > Pinky: " I think so, Brain, but if the plural of mouse is mice, wouldn't > the plural of spouse be spice? 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Guest guest Report post Posted March 9, 2007 The charts and " facts " that Gerber very kindly sends out to new parents which suggest you can start feeding their products to babies as early as 4 months old are advertising ploys, not medical advice. Liz Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 9, 2007 If you're vegan, you're outta luck. They'll buy you milk, cheese, eggs, boxed cereal, baby formula (Enfamil Lipil unless your doctor writes a note saying otherwise), beans... I can't remember what else. You have to go to these BS nutrition classes that are going to be an absolute bore to anyone who actually has a clue about human nutrition. If you used formula, it'd be worth the time... we used Enfamil so it saved us a ton of money. If it hadn't been for that we wouldn't have bothered. Jess <veg4animals2006 wrote: How does WIC work exactly? We were planning on setting up an appointment because were really cutting it close paying bills, and have been relying on donations for diapers and baby items. Is it worth our time? Jessica, Robert, and Baby Jesse Life is an adventure in forgiveness. Norman Cousins (1915 - 1990) L Friend <mountain_laurel1183 Thursday, March 8, 2007 6:58:59 PM Re: ideas.... I pretty much went off of WIC when I became veg, a couple months after my daughter was born. Other than the beans, they don't really give you anything that is really healthy for you. At first, they sent me a lot of post cards, but then I moved so now I don't have to deal with them anymore. I don't understand why they don't let you get fresh fruits and veggies instead of canned juice (except carrots) and if you are breastfeeding, they make you get tuna whether you will eat it or not. I still have a lot of beans from them though, because I am lazy and never plan out what I am going to eat in time to soak the beans so I usually use a can. (I know, not the best. . .) Laura Kadee M <abbey_road3012@ > wrote: Ah, WIC. We were on WIC for a year after Jeffery was born, and I swear those people are out to kill entire families. They wanted to know every bit of the reason we don't eat meat, and it still wasn't good enough. They did NOT like our diet!!! Who cares that the kids are eating lots of plain fruits and vegetables and beans and other good things. And I know for a fact they weren't hounding those fat women who brought in their fat children the way they did me. Silly WIC. One of the classes I went to was about iron. The lady teaching the class asked us where you can get iron. Every type of meat was mentioned. Someone even said milk but was corrected. I was the only one in a really big class that said beans and spinach!! I started fuming when the teacher said, " If your children are getting plenty of meat, they're probably getting all the iron they need. " Bah!! Whatever, all our blood iron levels were perfectly normal when they tested us. It's probably normal in the little fat kids too. Hmph. Missie Ward <mszzzi (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: My son's first favorites were kidney beans (we cut them in half when he first started eating them) and small cubes of tofu (he still likes it, plain right from the box even now - and has only recently said he likes 'hot' tofu - which is tofu that has been cooked in any kind of manner LOL). Garbanzos (chickpeas or as he says CARbonzos) are also very good (plus they have a lot of calcium). Some varieties of beans do not have added salt (we get some organic ones that do not have salt, but we still rinse them because of the liquid being a bit thick - it's carageenan I think). We never got hassled, but when our son was first eating solids, we were lacto/ovo vegetarians (before we really figured out his milk allergy), and we had to report once a month for the stuff he ate the day before our WIC visit. Sigh. We were told he didn't get enough vitamin C even though he ate about a half to 3/4 of a cup of peppers that day...so I knew he was fine. they told me he HAD to have juice with vit. C added. Sigh. When they don't really know, you have to provide the information to them (and even then some of them don't 'get' it). We also used to get plain unsweetened applesauce, and I made a lot of my own other fruit 'sauces' (pineapple, peach, pear, etc). You can probably find some helpful books at the library - one of my favorites from those early, unsure years was (and still is) Super Baby Foods. She's got lists in there about what stuff has a high protein count. We are lucky in that our Dr. never pushed anything on us, and she actually listens to what we have to say, and we work together to find solutions (especially in the early months when we had some problems ). Missie On 3/7/07, Kadee M <abbey_road3012@ > wrote: > > She doesn't NEED meat, no matter what the doctor says. Beans have lots > of protein, so do oatmeal and quinoa. Tofu is great if you can get her to > eat it. > > I get canned beans, whatever kind looks good (kidney beans are our > favorite), then I rinse them in a colander to get some of the salt off that > they're packed with, and voila. Super fast, super easy, and very healthy!! > You can mash them up for little babies. Oatmeal has always been one of my > kids' favorites. Plain cooked oats and some mashed peaches or bananas or > applesauce, or any other fruit. You can use jar baby food for that. You > could do the same thing with quinoa and vegetable baby food. > > Stephanie <stargazerlily72@ <stargazerlily72% 40> > wrote: > Hi. I am new to the veggie thing and I am also a first time Mom. My > daughter is starting to eat " regular " food and I was told by the ped. > today that she needs meat or another source of protien. Simple for me > to figure out for an adult but what about a baby/toddler? Does anyone > have any sample menus or ideas? I really don't want to go the route of > processed baby dinners. Thanks SO much. > > > > > > Kadee Sedtal > > Brain: " Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering? " > Pinky: " I think so, Brain, but if the plural of mouse is mice, wouldn't > the plural of spouse be spice? " > > Check out my new , Classical 2 at > http://launch. groups.. com classical2/ > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > Looking for earth-friendly autos? > Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Autos' Green Center. > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 9, 2007 It depends on where you are and how much organic stuff you want and how vegan you are. They didn't give me diapers or baby items. As a breastfeeding mom, they gave me tuna, carrots, beans, juice concentrate (not organic, but it was 100% juice), eggs, milk, cheese, and cereal. None of it could be organic, and you had to get everything on the voucher. We had 2.5 gallons of milk, for example, and if we wouldn't drink it, we either gave it away or it went to waste. Some people get peanut butter, or baby formula if you aren't breastfeeding, but you are limited on the brands you are allowed to get. The main thing other than the lack of quality food that bothered me was that every store had different things that were and weren't WIC approved. They aren't supposed to, but different people know and don't know about different things. After getting to the checkout line every time and having to hold everyone up by having to replace items or getting something I forgot, it became almost too much trouble in that aspect alone. It was pretty humiliating. If you shop at the same place every time, though, it shouldn't be as big of a deal. We just lived 20 minutes from the closest 2 towns, so we ended up in different places depending on other items we needed. It saved us about $25.00 every other week (give or take), which was helpful, but since I don't eat all the stuff they gave me, it was only helpful on milk, beans, and cheese, although the juice has come in handy sometimes. (I drink mostly water.) I think it is definitely a good program if you really don't have much money and would be feeding your kids cheap donuts and processed crap constantly otherwise, but for vegetarians, it is iffy. My personal opinion and experience, Everyone is different. Laura Jess <veg4animals2006 wrote: How does WIC work exactly? We were planning on setting up an appointment because were really cutting it close paying bills, and have been relying on donations for diapers and baby items. Is it worth our time? Jessica, Robert, and Baby Jesse Life is an adventure in forgiveness. Norman Cousins (1915 - 1990) L Friend <mountain_laurel1183 Thursday, March 8, 2007 6:58:59 PM Re: ideas.... I pretty much went off of WIC when I became veg, a couple months after my daughter was born. Other than the beans, they don't really give you anything that is really healthy for you. At first, they sent me a lot of post cards, but then I moved so now I don't have to deal with them anymore. I don't understand why they don't let you get fresh fruits and veggies instead of canned juice (except carrots) and if you are breastfeeding, they make you get tuna whether you will eat it or not. I still have a lot of beans from them though, because I am lazy and never plan out what I am going to eat in time to soak the beans so I usually use a can. (I know, not the best. . .) Laura Kadee M <abbey_road3012@ > wrote: Ah, WIC. We were on WIC for a year after Jeffery was born, and I swear those people are out to kill entire families. They wanted to know every bit of the reason we don't eat meat, and it still wasn't good enough. They did NOT like our diet!!! Who cares that the kids are eating lots of plain fruits and vegetables and beans and other good things. And I know for a fact they weren't hounding those fat women who brought in their fat children the way they did me. Silly WIC. One of the classes I went to was about iron. The lady teaching the class asked us where you can get iron. Every type of meat was mentioned. Someone even said milk but was corrected. I was the only one in a really big class that said beans and spinach!! I started fuming when the teacher said, " If your children are getting plenty of meat, they're probably getting all the iron they need. " Bah!! Whatever, all our blood iron levels were perfectly normal when they tested us. It's probably normal in the little fat kids too. Hmph. Missie Ward <mszzzi (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: My son's first favorites were kidney beans (we cut them in half when he first started eating them) and small cubes of tofu (he still likes it, plain right from the box even now - and has only recently said he likes 'hot' tofu - which is tofu that has been cooked in any kind of manner LOL). Garbanzos (chickpeas or as he says CARbonzos) are also very good (plus they have a lot of calcium). Some varieties of beans do not have added salt (we get some organic ones that do not have salt, but we still rinse them because of the liquid being a bit thick - it's carageenan I think). We never got hassled, but when our son was first eating solids, we were lacto/ovo vegetarians (before we really figured out his milk allergy), and we had to report once a month for the stuff he ate the day before our WIC visit. Sigh. We were told he didn't get enough vitamin C even though he ate about a half to 3/4 of a cup of peppers that day...so I knew he was fine. they told me he HAD to have juice with vit. C added. Sigh. When they don't really know, you have to provide the information to them (and even then some of them don't 'get' it). We also used to get plain unsweetened applesauce, and I made a lot of my own other fruit 'sauces' (pineapple, peach, pear, etc). You can probably find some helpful books at the library - one of my favorites from those early, unsure years was (and still is) Super Baby Foods. She's got lists in there about what stuff has a high protein count. We are lucky in that our Dr. never pushed anything on us, and she actually listens to what we have to say, and we work together to find solutions (especially in the early months when we had some problems ). Missie On 3/7/07, Kadee M <abbey_road3012@ > wrote: > > She doesn't NEED meat, no matter what the doctor says. Beans have lots > of protein, so do oatmeal and quinoa. Tofu is great if you can get her to > eat it. > > I get canned beans, whatever kind looks good (kidney beans are our > favorite), then I rinse them in a colander to get some of the salt off that > they're packed with, and voila. Super fast, super easy, and very healthy!! > You can mash them up for little babies. Oatmeal has always been one of my > kids' favorites. Plain cooked oats and some mashed peaches or bananas or > applesauce, or any other fruit. You can use jar baby food for that. You > could do the same thing with quinoa and vegetable baby food. > > Stephanie <stargazerlily72@ <stargazerlily72% 40> > wrote: > Hi. I am new to the veggie thing and I am also a first time Mom. My > daughter is starting to eat " regular " food and I was told by the ped. > today that she needs meat or another source of protien. Simple for me > to figure out for an adult but what about a baby/toddler? Does anyone > have any sample menus or ideas? I really don't want to go the route of > processed baby dinners. Thanks SO much. > > > > > > Kadee Sedtal > > Brain: " Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering? " > Pinky: " I think so, Brain, but if the plural of mouse is mice, wouldn't > the plural of spouse be spice? 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Guest guest Report post Posted March 9, 2007 I think it depends on the child, for sure. I think you should go with your instincts and be careful. I started my daughter on solids when she was 4 months because she really was ready. I think that is why they tell you to go for developmental stages rather than just age alone. We have gone super slow, and if I didn't think she was hungry enough one day, we would just do formula/breastmilk. She now eats less than most kids her age and actually dropped a couple of percentages in the growth charts, though she has always stayed somewhere around the 50th percentile. She is 7.5 months old and still wears 3-6 month clothes, so she is absolutely not eating too much. I am almost a little worried she is not eating enough, but she doesn't seem hungrier than what I feed her. Developmentally, now she is ready for stage 3 foods, but we are still on stage 1 and 2. I say that to say I think it is more important in the long run to be in tune with your child's needs. If you purposefully wait because of all the stats on how the sooner a kid starts solids, the more likely they are to be obese, then you run the risk of the opposite problem: throwing their bodies into a feast/famine cycle where their metabolisms slow down because they aren't getting enough food. Of course, starting too soon just so they won't cry so much isn't good either. So, yes, I definitely believe in individuality. My 2 cents. Laura ERB <bakwin wrote: The charts and " facts " that Gerber very kindly sends out to new parents which suggest you can start feeding their products to babies as early as 4 months old are advertising ploys, not medical advice. Liz Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast with the Search weather shortcut. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 9, 2007 At 10 months, she should still be getting most of her protein from breastmilk/formula. Before she turns one, stay away from the allergy trigger food. This is not a complete list, just of the top of my head: dairy, soy, citrus, eggs, wheat, strawberries, Stephanie <stargazerlily72 wrote: Almost 10 mos old. She has been eating the baby food for awhile and some table food. Moving her towards more table food. She was 8 weeks premature, so I'm not sure where she falls for the " feeding timeline " ,if there is such a thing? , " Ilse Knecht " <iknecht wrote: > > How old is your daughter? Is she just starting solids or table food? > > Ilse > > >>> stargazerlily72 03/07/07 4:38 PM >>> > Hi. I am new to the veggie thing and I am also a first time Mom. My > daughter is starting to eat " regular " food and I was told by the ped. > today that she needs meat or another source of protien. Simple for me > to figure out for an adult but what about a baby/toddler? Does anyone > have any sample menus or ideas? I really don't want to go the route of > processed baby dinners. Thanks SO much. > The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Search Marketing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 9, 2007 Thanks. Yes, I do have the Gerber info. I guess being a first timer, I question everything.. We kinda follow her, what she wants to do. I was going shopping and had planned on getting the 3rd foods. Probably best to stick with the jars of baby food for now. , Jess <veg4animals2006 wrote: > > Weaning babies is usually done by their developmental milestones. I have a Gerber sheet showing lots of really great information. I can scan it and send it to you if you'd like. When a baby can hold his own head up and after they are 4 months is generally when you can begin weaning, like we did. We started with cereal, and then went to 1st foods, his appetite has grown now so he's on 2nd foods. Usually you being feeding second foods around the time they can sit by themselves(which he's getting the hang of). It says when they can crawl or pull themselves up to stand is when you can begin 3rd and finger foods. When they walk, you can being grauduates. It's has lots of good info on it. You might be able to find it online. We get Gerber mailings (coupons, posters, etc) which is where we got it. > > > > Jessica, Robert, and Baby Jesse > > Life is an adventure in forgiveness. > Norman Cousins (1915 - 1990) > > > > > > Stephanie <stargazerlily72 > > Thursday, March 8, 2007 5:56:29 PM > Re: ideas.... > > Almost 10 mos old. She has been eating the baby food for awhile and > some table food. Moving her towards more table food. She was 8 weeks > premature, so I'm not sure where she falls for the " feeding > timeline " ,if there is such a thing? > > @gro ups.com, " Ilse Knecht " <iknecht@ > wrote: > > > > How old is your daughter? Is she just starting solids or table food? > > > > Ilse > > > > >>> stargazerlily72@ ... 03/07/07 4:38 PM >>> > > Hi. I am new to the veggie thing and I am also a first time Mom. My > > daughter is starting to eat " regular " food and I was told by the ped. > > today that she needs meat or another source of protien. Simple for me > > to figure out for an adult but what about a baby/toddler? Does anyone > > have any sample menus or ideas? I really don't want to go the route > of > > processed baby dinners. Thanks SO much. > > > > > > > > > ____________________ ______________ > Get your own web address. > Have a HUGE year through Small Business. > http://smallbusiness./domains/?p=BESTDEAL > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 9, 2007 We send formula with my son to daycare (since I'm in classes from 9-4), but when he's home he breastfeeds. I was very devastated about that, but my milk supply decreased and I've tried to keep it up, but just couldn't. Plus, I'm not vegan, but we don't use a lot of milk (we generally use silk when cooking). What about WIC as far as diapers and other supplies? We're already on food stamps so I don't know how that would work out. Jessica, Robert, and Baby Jesse Life is an adventure in forgiveness. Norman Cousins (1915 - 1990) Kadee M <abbey_road3012 Thursday, March 8, 2007 10:37:07 PM Re: ideas.... If you're vegan, you're outta luck. They'll buy you milk, cheese, eggs, boxed cereal, baby formula (Enfamil Lipil unless your doctor writes a note saying otherwise), beans... I can't remember what else. You have to go to these BS nutrition classes that are going to be an absolute bore to anyone who actually has a clue about human nutrition. If you used formula, it'd be worth the time... we used Enfamil so it saved us a ton of money. If it hadn't been for that we wouldn't have bothered. Jess <veg4animals2006@ > wrote: How does WIC work exactly? We were planning on setting up an appointment because were really cutting it close paying bills, and have been relying on donations for diapers and baby items. Is it worth our time? Jessica, Robert, and Baby Jesse Life is an adventure in forgiveness. Norman Cousins (1915 - 1990) L Friend <mountain_laurel1183 @> @gro ups.com Thursday, March 8, 2007 6:58:59 PM Re: ideas.... I pretty much went off of WIC when I became veg, a couple months after my daughter was born. Other than the beans, they don't really give you anything that is really healthy for you. At first, they sent me a lot of post cards, but then I moved so now I don't have to deal with them anymore. I don't understand why they don't let you get fresh fruits and veggies instead of canned juice (except carrots) and if you are breastfeeding, they make you get tuna whether you will eat it or not. I still have a lot of beans from them though, because I am lazy and never plan out what I am going to eat in time to soak the beans so I usually use a can. (I know, not the best. . .) Laura Kadee M <abbey_road3012@ > wrote: Ah, WIC. We were on WIC for a year after Jeffery was born, and I swear those people are out to kill entire families. They wanted to know every bit of the reason we don't eat meat, and it still wasn't good enough. They did NOT like our diet!!! Who cares that the kids are eating lots of plain fruits and vegetables and beans and other good things. And I know for a fact they weren't hounding those fat women who brought in their fat children the way they did me. Silly WIC. One of the classes I went to was about iron. The lady teaching the class asked us where you can get iron. Every type of meat was mentioned. Someone even said milk but was corrected. I was the only one in a really big class that said beans and spinach!! I started fuming when the teacher said, " If your children are getting plenty of meat, they're probably getting all the iron they need. " Bah!! Whatever, all our blood iron levels were perfectly normal when they tested us. It's probably normal in the little fat kids too. Hmph. Missie Ward <mszzzi (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: My son's first favorites were kidney beans (we cut them in half when he first started eating them) and small cubes of tofu (he still likes it, plain right from the box even now - and has only recently said he likes 'hot' tofu - which is tofu that has been cooked in any kind of manner LOL). Garbanzos (chickpeas or as he says CARbonzos) are also very good (plus they have a lot of calcium). Some varieties of beans do not have added salt (we get some organic ones that do not have salt, but we still rinse them because of the liquid being a bit thick - it's carageenan I think). We never got hassled, but when our son was first eating solids, we were lacto/ovo vegetarians (before we really figured out his milk allergy), and we had to report once a month for the stuff he ate the day before our WIC visit. Sigh. We were told he didn't get enough vitamin C even though he ate about a half to 3/4 of a cup of peppers that day...so I knew he was fine. they told me he HAD to have juice with vit. C added. Sigh. When they don't really know, you have to provide the information to them (and even then some of them don't 'get' it). We also used to get plain unsweetened applesauce, and I made a lot of my own other fruit 'sauces' (pineapple, peach, pear, etc). You can probably find some helpful books at the library - one of my favorites from those early, unsure years was (and still is) Super Baby Foods. She's got lists in there about what stuff has a high protein count. We are lucky in that our Dr. never pushed anything on us, and she actually listens to what we have to say, and we work together to find solutions (especially in the early months when we had some problems ). Missie On 3/7/07, Kadee M <abbey_road3012@ > wrote: > > She doesn't NEED meat, no matter what the doctor says. Beans have lots > of protein, so do oatmeal and quinoa. Tofu is great if you can get her to > eat it. > > I get canned beans, whatever kind looks good (kidney beans are our > favorite), then I rinse them in a colander to get some of the salt off that > they're packed with, and voila. Super fast, super easy, and very healthy!! > You can mash them up for little babies. Oatmeal has always been one of my > kids' favorites. Plain cooked oats and some mashed peaches or bananas or > applesauce, or any other fruit. You can use jar baby food for that. You > could do the same thing with quinoa and vegetable baby food. > > Stephanie <stargazerlily72@ <stargazerlily72% 40> > wrote: > Hi. I am new to the veggie thing and I am also a first time Mom. My > daughter is starting to eat " regular " food and I was told by the ped. > today that she needs meat or another source of protien. Simple for me > to figure out for an adult but what about a baby/toddler? Does anyone > have any sample menus or ideas? I really don't want to go the route of > processed baby dinners. Thanks SO much. > > > > > > Kadee Sedtal > > Brain: " Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering? " > Pinky: " I think so, Brain, but if the plural of mouse is mice, wouldn't > the plural of spouse be spice? " > > Check out my new , Classical 2 at > http://launch. groups.. com classical2/ > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > Looking for earth-friendly autos? > Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Autos' Green Center. > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 9, 2007 And juice. They pushed juice on us like it was going out of style. When we applied, only our son was eligible, and he was under 1yr, so all we got was milk, cheese (neither of which he could have with his allergy but it was still on the wic coupons we got) eggs, juice, baby cereal, dry beans/peas and formula. I don't know if what kind of formula you get depends on where you are, as we were given Similac on those (At least I'm pretty sure it was that one - they may have changed, or it may depend). Just because it is on the coupon, you do not have to pick it up, as we never got milk/cheese. Because I was nursing, we only got about 2 cans of formula a week - to supplement in his cereal. I think we always missed the classes though. If you use any of that stuff for you child, then it would be fine. I didn't like that they made me feel bad for NOT giving my son juice. I told them that him eating fresh fruit was better and juice was too sugary - to which they told me to get only the 100% juice. Right, because 5 apples worth of fruit sugar in a cup of juice is NOT a lot of sugar, uh huh. They just kind of stared at me like I was from Mars or something when I said that, and also that he preferred (and still does) ice water. So, we got to where we'd have these goofy meals the day before so I could track for them what he had according to what they wanted to hear. Missie On 3/8/07, Kadee M <abbey_road3012 wrote: > > If you're vegan, you're outta luck. They'll buy you milk, cheese, eggs, > boxed cereal, baby formula (Enfamil Lipil unless your doctor writes a note > saying otherwise), beans... I can't remember what else. You have to go to > these BS nutrition classes that are going to be an absolute bore to anyone > who actually has a clue about human nutrition. If you used formula, it'd be > worth the time... we used Enfamil so it saved us a ton of money. If it > hadn't been for that we wouldn't have bothered. > > Jess <veg4animals2006 <veg4animals2006%40>> wrote: How > does WIC work exactly? We were planning on setting up an appointment because > were really cutting it close paying bills, and have been relying on > donations for diapers and baby items. Is it worth our time? > > > Jessica, Robert, and Baby Jesse > > Life is an adventure in forgiveness. > Norman Cousins (1915 - 1990) > > > L Friend <mountain_laurel1183<mountain_laurel1183%40> > > > <%40> > Thursday, March 8, 2007 6:58:59 PM > Re: ideas.... > > I pretty much went off of WIC when I became veg, a couple months after my > daughter was born. Other than the beans, they don't really give you anything > that is really healthy for you. At first, they sent me a lot of post cards, > but then I moved so now I don't have to deal with them anymore. I don't > understand why they don't let you get fresh fruits and veggies instead of > canned juice (except carrots) and if you are breastfeeding, they make you > get tuna whether you will eat it or not. I still have a lot of beans from > them though, because I am lazy and never plan out what I am going to eat in > time to soak the beans so I usually use a can. (I know, not the best. . .) > Laura > > Kadee M <abbey_road3012@ > wrote: > Ah, WIC. We were on WIC for a year after Jeffery was born, and I swear > those people are out to kill entire families. They wanted to know every bit > of the reason we don't eat meat, and it still wasn't good enough. They did > NOT like our diet!!! Who cares that the kids are eating lots of plain fruits > and vegetables and beans and other good things. And I know for a fact they > weren't hounding those fat women who brought in their fat children the way > they did me. Silly WIC. One of the classes I went to was about iron. The > lady teaching the class asked us where you can get iron. Every type of meat > was mentioned. Someone even said milk but was corrected. I was the only one > in a really big class that said beans and spinach!! I started fuming when > the teacher said, " If your children are getting plenty of meat, they're > probably getting all the iron they need. " Bah!! Whatever, all our blood iron > levels were perfectly normal when they tested us. It's probably normal in > the > little fat > kids too. Hmph. > > Missie Ward <mszzzi (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: My son's first favorites were > kidney beans (we cut them in half when he > first started eating them) and small cubes of tofu (he still likes it, > plain > right from the box even now - and has only recently said he likes 'hot' > tofu > - which is tofu that has been cooked in any kind of manner LOL). > Garbanzos (chickpeas or as he says CARbonzos) are also very good (plus > they > have a lot of calcium). > > Some varieties of beans do not have added salt (we get some organic ones > that do not have salt, but we still rinse them because of the liquid being > a bit thick - it's carageenan I think). > > We never got hassled, but when our son was first eating solids, we were > lacto/ovo vegetarians (before we really figured out his milk allergy), and > we had to report once a month for the stuff he ate the day before our WIC > visit. Sigh. We were told he didn't get enough vitamin C even though he > ate > about a half to 3/4 of a cup of peppers that day...so I knew he was fine. > they told me he HAD to have juice with vit. C added. Sigh. > When they don't really know, you have to provide the information to them > (and even then some of them don't 'get' it). > > We also used to get plain unsweetened applesauce, and I made a lot of my > own > other fruit 'sauces' (pineapple, peach, pear, etc). You can probably find > some helpful books at the library - one of my favorites from those early, > unsure years was (and still is) Super Baby Foods. She's got lists in > there about what stuff has a high protein count. We are lucky in that our > Dr. never pushed anything on us, and she actually listens to what we have > to > say, and we work together to find solutions (especially in the early > months > when we had some problems ). > > Missie > > On 3/7/07, Kadee M <abbey_road3012@ > wrote: > > > > She doesn't NEED meat, no matter what the doctor says. Beans have lots > > of protein, so do oatmeal and quinoa. Tofu is great if you can get her > to > > eat it. > > > > I get canned beans, whatever kind looks good (kidney beans are our > > favorite), then I rinse them in a colander to get some of the salt off > that > > they're packed with, and voila. Super fast, super easy, and very > healthy!! > > You can mash them up for little babies. Oatmeal has always been one of > my > > kids' favorites. Plain cooked oats and some mashed peaches or bananas or > > applesauce, or any other fruit. You can use jar baby food for that. You > > could do the same thing with quinoa and vegetable baby food. > > > > Stephanie <stargazerlily72@ <stargazerlily72% 40> > > wrote: > > Hi. I am new to the veggie thing and I am also a first time Mom. My > > daughter is starting to eat " regular " food and I was told by the ped. > > today that she needs meat or another source of protien. Simple for me > > to figure out for an adult but what about a baby/toddler? Does anyone > > have any sample menus or ideas? I really don't want to go the route of > > processed baby dinners. Thanks SO much. > > > > > > > > > > > > Kadee Sedtal > > > > Brain: " Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering? " > > Pinky: " I think so, Brain, but if the plural of mouse is mice, wouldn't > > the plural of spouse be spice? " > > > > Check out my new , Classical 2 at > > http://launch. groups.. com classical2/ > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > Looking for earth-friendly autos? > > Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Autos' Green Center. > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 9, 2007 WIC only gives you food. It doesn't help out on diapers or other supplies. If it did, we would definitely still be on it! Diapers are a pain. Have you tried non-disposable ones? More expensive up front, but cheaper in the long run. (I know about the whole more expensive up front thing, though) Jess <veg4animals2006 wrote: We send formula with my son to daycare (since I'm in classes from 9-4), but when he's home he breastfeeds. I was very devastated about that, but my milk supply decreased and I've tried to keep it up, but just couldn't. Plus, I'm not vegan, but we don't use a lot of milk (we generally use silk when cooking). What about WIC as far as diapers and other supplies? We're already on food stamps so I don't know how that would work out. Jessica, Robert, and Baby Jesse Life is an adventure in forgiveness. Norman Cousins (1915 - 1990) Kadee M <abbey_road3012 Thursday, March 8, 2007 10:37:07 PM Re: ideas.... If you're vegan, you're outta luck. They'll buy you milk, cheese, eggs, boxed cereal, baby formula (Enfamil Lipil unless your doctor writes a note saying otherwise), beans... I can't remember what else. You have to go to these BS nutrition classes that are going to be an absolute bore to anyone who actually has a clue about human nutrition. If you used formula, it'd be worth the time... we used Enfamil so it saved us a ton of money. If it hadn't been for that we wouldn't have bothered. Jess <veg4animals2006@ > wrote: How does WIC work exactly? We were planning on setting up an appointment because were really cutting it close paying bills, and have been relying on donations for diapers and baby items. Is it worth our time? Jessica, Robert, and Baby Jesse Life is an adventure in forgiveness. Norman Cousins (1915 - 1990) L Friend <mountain_laurel1183 @> @gro ups.com Thursday, March 8, 2007 6:58:59 PM Re: ideas.... I pretty much went off of WIC when I became veg, a couple months after my daughter was born. Other than the beans, they don't really give you anything that is really healthy for you. At first, they sent me a lot of post cards, but then I moved so now I don't have to deal with them anymore. I don't understand why they don't let you get fresh fruits and veggies instead of canned juice (except carrots) and if you are breastfeeding, they make you get tuna whether you will eat it or not. I still have a lot of beans from them though, because I am lazy and never plan out what I am going to eat in time to soak the beans so I usually use a can. (I know, not the best. . .) Laura Kadee M <abbey_road3012@ > wrote: Ah, WIC. We were on WIC for a year after Jeffery was born, and I swear those people are out to kill entire families. They wanted to know every bit of the reason we don't eat meat, and it still wasn't good enough. They did NOT like our diet!!! Who cares that the kids are eating lots of plain fruits and vegetables and beans and other good things. And I know for a fact they weren't hounding those fat women who brought in their fat children the way they did me. Silly WIC. One of the classes I went to was about iron. The lady teaching the class asked us where you can get iron. Every type of meat was mentioned. Someone even said milk but was corrected. I was the only one in a really big class that said beans and spinach!! I started fuming when the teacher said, " If your children are getting plenty of meat, they're probably getting all the iron they need. " Bah!! Whatever, all our blood iron levels were perfectly normal when they tested us. It's probably normal in the little fat kids too. Hmph. Missie Ward <mszzzi (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: My son's first favorites were kidney beans (we cut them in half when he first started eating them) and small cubes of tofu (he still likes it, plain right from the box even now - and has only recently said he likes 'hot' tofu - which is tofu that has been cooked in any kind of manner LOL). Garbanzos (chickpeas or as he says CARbonzos) are also very good (plus they have a lot of calcium). Some varieties of beans do not have added salt (we get some organic ones that do not have salt, but we still rinse them because of the liquid being a bit thick - it's carageenan I think). We never got hassled, but when our son was first eating solids, we were lacto/ovo vegetarians (before we really figured out his milk allergy), and we had to report once a month for the stuff he ate the day before our WIC visit. Sigh. We were told he didn't get enough vitamin C even though he ate about a half to 3/4 of a cup of peppers that day...so I knew he was fine. they told me he HAD to have juice with vit. C added. Sigh. When they don't really know, you have to provide the information to them (and even then some of them don't 'get' it). We also used to get plain unsweetened applesauce, and I made a lot of my own other fruit 'sauces' (pineapple, peach, pear, etc). You can probably find some helpful books at the library - one of my favorites from those early, unsure years was (and still is) Super Baby Foods. She's got lists in there about what stuff has a high protein count. We are lucky in that our Dr. never pushed anything on us, and she actually listens to what we have to say, and we work together to find solutions (especially in the early months when we had some problems ). Missie On 3/7/07, Kadee M <abbey_road3012@ > wrote: > > She doesn't NEED meat, no matter what the doctor says. Beans have lots > of protein, so do oatmeal and quinoa. Tofu is great if you can get her to > eat it. > > I get canned beans, whatever kind looks good (kidney beans are our > favorite), then I rinse them in a colander to get some of the salt off that > they're packed with, and voila. Super fast, super easy, and very healthy!! > You can mash them up for little babies. Oatmeal has always been one of my > kids' favorites. Plain cooked oats and some mashed peaches or bananas or > applesauce, or any other fruit. You can use jar baby food for that. You > could do the same thing with quinoa and vegetable baby food. > > Stephanie <stargazerlily72@ <stargazerlily72% 40> > wrote: > Hi. I am new to the veggie thing and I am also a first time Mom. My > daughter is starting to eat " regular " food and I was told by the ped. > today that she needs meat or another source of protien. Simple for me > to figure out for an adult but what about a baby/toddler? Does anyone > have any sample menus or ideas? I really don't want to go the route of > processed baby dinners. Thanks SO much. > > > > > > Kadee Sedtal > > Brain: " Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering? " > Pinky: " I think so, Brain, but if the plural of mouse is mice, wouldn't > the plural of spouse be spice? " > > Check out my new , Classical 2 at > http://launch. groups.. com classical2/ > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > Looking for earth-friendly autos? > Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Autos' Green Center. > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 9, 2007 we have saved SO MUCH money doing cloth diapers. we spent $300 when my son was born and have not spent another dime on diapers since. we used his older diapers for our new baby. and i can't even describe how much money you save being an attachment parent. no crib, no plapyen, no bouncers, swings or rockers, no canned food, no babysitters, no strollers, and other than myself, no bottles or formula. i highly recommend it, if only to save money! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 9, 2007 Well, I think I have it somewhat down for now anyway. Went to the store this morning, Got her the 3rd food green beans and rice, my mom kept trying to put the jars with meat in them in the cart. I also got some veggie dogs and a few cans of beans. She does still get a bottle (soy formula) for most of her needs. Ahhh, the formula parade...I breastfed for the first month but then had to go on a medication for my kidneys..so I had to put her on formula...NIGHTMARE! Since she was a preemie she had a little reflux and the ped attributed the " spitting up " to that...I kept telling him it was the milk protein...but NO, I don't know anything. So I finally had enough and switched to soy for 3 weeks then told the doctor...she has been PERFECTLY fine since! Anyway...sorry to ramble... Stephanie , L Friend <mountain_laurel1183 wrote: > > I think it depends on the child, for sure. I think you should go with your instincts and be careful. I started my daughter on solids when she was 4 months because she really was ready. I think that is why they tell you to go for developmental stages rather than just age alone. > > We have gone super slow, and if I didn't think she was hungry enough one day, we would just do formula/breastmilk. She now eats less than most kids her age and actually dropped a couple of percentages in the growth charts, though she has always stayed somewhere around the 50th percentile. She is 7.5 months old and still wears 3-6 month clothes, so she is absolutely not eating too much. I am almost a little worried she is not eating enough, but she doesn't seem hungrier than what I feed her. Developmentally, now she is ready for stage 3 foods, but we are still on stage 1 and 2. > > I say that to say I think it is more important in the long run to be in tune with your child's needs. If you purposefully wait because of all the stats on how the sooner a kid starts solids, the more likely they are to be obese, then you run the risk of the opposite problem: throwing their bodies into a feast/famine cycle where their metabolisms slow down because they aren't getting enough food. Of course, starting too soon just so they won't cry so much isn't good either. So, yes, I definitely believe in individuality. > My 2 cents. > Laura > > ERB <bakwin wrote: > The charts and " facts " that Gerber very kindly sends > out to new parents which suggest you can start feeding > their products to babies as early as 4 months old are > advertising ploys, not medical advice. > > Liz > > > > > > > Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast > with the Search weather shortcut. > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 9, 2007 I don't know what the " stages " mean for the foods. I cooked and mashed veggies (with a mini food processor I picked up at a garage saled) and used a store bought brown rice cereal mixed with breast milk. We used puffed brown rice and puffed millet as finger food. L Friend <mountain_laurel1183 wrote: I think it depends on the child, for sure. I think you should go with your instincts and be careful. I started my daughter on solids when she was 4 months because she really was ready. I think that is why they tell you to go for developmental stages rather than just age alone. We have gone super slow, and if I didn't think she was hungry enough one day, we would just do formula/breastmilk. She now eats less than most kids her age and actually dropped a couple of percentages in the growth charts, though she has always stayed somewhere around the 50th percentile. She is 7.5 months old and still wears 3-6 month clothes, so she is absolutely not eating too much. I am almost a little worried she is not eating enough, but she doesn't seem hungrier than what I feed her. Developmentally, now she is ready for stage 3 foods, but we are still on stage 1 and 2. I say that to say I think it is more important in the long run to be in tune with your child's needs. If you purposefully wait because of all the stats on how the sooner a kid starts solids, the more likely they are to be obese, then you run the risk of the opposite problem: throwing their bodies into a feast/famine cycle where their metabolisms slow down because they aren't getting enough food. Of course, starting too soon just so they won't cry so much isn't good either. So, yes, I definitely believe in individuality. My 2 cents. Laura ERB <bakwin wrote: The charts and " facts " that Gerber very kindly sends out to new parents which suggest you can start feeding their products to babies as early as 4 months old are advertising ploys, not medical advice. Liz Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast with the Search weather shortcut. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 9, 2007 I find if you follow your baby's lead, it works best. My son started watching us eat and reaching for our food at about 5 mos so I gave him some 1st foods and mashed up bananas. Then you just get the sense from them that they are ready to try to pick up foods and I think by 7 mos he was eating a lot of table food. Starting solids too early (4 mos) has been linked to an increase in food allergies. I would wait. Don't worry, they will learn to eat table food eventually! Ilse >>> stargazerlily72 03/09/07 5:51 AM >>> Thanks. Yes, I do have the Gerber info. I guess being a first timer, I question everything.. We kinda follow her, what she wants to do. I was going shopping and had planned on getting the 3rd foods. Probably best to stick with the jars of baby food for now. , Jess <veg4animals2006 wrote: > > Weaning babies is usually done by their developmental milestones. I have a Gerber sheet showing lots of really great information. I can scan it and send it to you if you'd like. When a baby can hold his own head up and after they are 4 months is generally when you can begin weaning, like we did. We started with cereal, and then went to 1st foods, his appetite has grown now so he's on 2nd foods. Usually you being feeding second foods around the time they can sit by themselves(which he's getting the hang of). It says when they can crawl or pull themselves up to stand is when you can begin 3rd and finger foods. When they walk, you can being grauduates. It's has lots of good info on it. You might be able to find it online. We get Gerber mailings (coupons, posters, etc) which is where we got it. > > > > Jessica, Robert, and Baby Jesse > > Life is an adventure in forgiveness. > Norman Cousins (1915 - 1990) > > > > > > Stephanie <stargazerlily72 > > Thursday, March 8, 2007 5:56:29 PM > Re: ideas.... > > Almost 10 mos old. She has been eating the baby food for awhile and > some table food. Moving her towards more table food. She was 8 weeks > premature, so I'm not sure where she falls for the " feeding > timeline " ,if there is such a thing? > > @gro ups.com, " Ilse Knecht " <iknecht@ > wrote: > > > > How old is your daughter? Is she just starting solids or table food? > > > > Ilse > > > > >>> stargazerlily72@ ... 03/07/07 4:38 PM >>> > > Hi. I am new to the veggie thing and I am also a first time Mom. My > > daughter is starting to eat " regular " food and I was told by the ped. > > today that she needs meat or another source of protien. Simple for me > > to figure out for an adult but what about a baby/toddler? Does anyone > > have any sample menus or ideas? I really don't want to go the route > of > > processed baby dinners. Thanks SO much. > > > > > > > > > ____________________ ______________ > Get your own web address. > Have a HUGE year through Small Business. > http://smallbusiness./domains/?p=BESTDEAL > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
