Guest guest Report post Posted April 10, 2006 There is no food where you can get any useable vitamin B12 that is not animal. You have to have fortified foods, or supplements. Marmite was once thought to have B12 but there is very little and it is not useable - and there is a very high salt content. Jo - " linda galvin " <ljgukuk Monday, April 10, 2006 11:03 AM Re: Low B12. > > Hi Peter > > Thanks for that. > > I don't like soya milk or anything milk like. > It would be available from greens eg vegetable etc > wouldn't it. > Things like Marmite i think might be high in Vitamin B > aswell i think? > I know Marmite is vegan but are there any similar > vegan marmite alternatives. > > > --- Peter <metalscarab wrote: > > > Hi Linda > > > > > Other than taking supplements in tablet form what > > > foods do other use to get their required amount of > > > B12. > > > > I get my B12 through fortified soya milk... I have a > > bowl of something with > > it every morning :-) > > > > BB > > Peter > > > > > > > > > > > > > To send an email to - > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 10, 2006 LOL :-) Jo - " fraggle " <EBbrewpunx Monday, April 10, 2006 4:42 PM Re: Re: Low B12. > mmm dirt > > > >jo <jo.heartwork > >Apr 9, 2006 2:37 PM > > > >Re: Re: Low B12. > > > >If you really don't want to take a vegan supplement or eat foods with it in > >you will have to go outside and eat the dirt! > > > >Jo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 10, 2006 hi peter how can you say you dont like soya milk ? its the best linda galvin <ljgukuk wrote: Hi PeterThanks for that.I don't like soya milk or anything milk like.It would be available from greens eg vegetable etcwouldn't it.Things like Marmite i think might be high in Vitamin Baswell i think?I know Marmite is vegan but are there any similarvegan marmite alternatives.--- Peter <metalscarab wrote:> Hi Linda> > > Other than taking supplements in tablet form what> > foods do other use to get their required amount of> > B12.> > I get my B12 through fortified soya milk... I have a> bowl of something with> it every morning :-)> > BB> Peter> > To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Security Centre. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 10, 2006 well...linda wrote the not liking soymilk bit and...different strokes fer different folks.... and..at least peter doesn't like marmite!!! ewww louis stott Apr 10, 2006 1:23 PM Re: Low B12. hi peter how can you say you dont like soya milk ? its the best linda galvin <ljgukuk wrote: Hi PeterThanks for that.I don't like soya milk or anything milk like.It would be available from greens eg vegetable etcwouldn't it.Things like Marmite i think might be high in Vitamin Baswell i think?I know Marmite is vegan but are there any similarvegan marmite alternatives.--- Peter <metalscarab wrote: A pox upon the media And everything you read They tell you your opinions And they're very good indeed I wanna destroy you Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 10, 2006 sorry peter hi linda how can you say you dont like soya milk ? i love it .. it makes good coffeefraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: well...linda wrote the not liking soymilk bit and...different strokes fer different folks.... and..at least peter doesn't like marmite!!! ewww louis stott Apr 10, 2006 1:23 PM Re: Low B12. hi peter how can you say you dont like soya milk ? its the best linda galvin <ljgukuk wrote: Hi PeterThanks for that.I don't like soya milk or anything milk like.It would be available from greens eg vegetable etcwouldn't it.Things like Marmite i think might be high in Vitamin Baswell i think?I know Marmite is vegan but are there any similarvegan marmite alternatives.--- Peter <metalscarab wrote: A pox upon the media And everything you read They tell you your opinions And they're very good indeed I wanna destroy you Photos – NEW, now offering a quality print service from just 8p a photo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 11, 2006 Well i just don't like anything milky be it soya milk or anything similar.People like different things. I love Marmite to death but don't think it's a crime if others hate it with equal passion. --- louis stott <lsstott wrote: > sorry peter > > hi linda > how can you say you dont like soya milk ? i love > it .. it makes good coffee > > fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: > well...linda wrote the not liking soymilk bit > > and...different strokes fer different folks.... > > and..at least peter doesn't like marmite!!! > ewww > > > > louis stott > Apr 10, 2006 1:23 PM > > Re: Low B12. > > > hi peter > how can you say you dont like soya milk ? its the > best > > linda galvin <ljgukuk wrote: > > Hi Peter > > Thanks for that. > > I don't like soya milk or anything milk like. > It would be available from greens eg vegetable etc > wouldn't it. > Things like Marmite i think might be high in Vitamin > B > aswell i think? > I know Marmite is vegan but are there any similar > vegan marmite alternatives. > > > --- Peter <metalscarab wrote: > > > > To send an email to > - > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 11, 2006 yes thats true we are all diffenent things dont we ? but marmite now we are tolkin i love it too bet you like it think on toast ? linda galvin <ljgukuk wrote: Well i just don't like anything milky be it soya milkor anything similar.People like different things.I love Marmite to death but don't think it's a crimeif others hate it with equal passion.--- louis stott <lsstott wrote:> sorry peter > > hi linda > how can you say you dont like soya milk ? i love> it .. it makes good coffee> > fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote:> well...linda wrote the not liking soymilk bit> > and...different strokes fer different folks....> > and..at least peter doesn't like marmite!!!> ewww> > > > louis stott > Apr 10, 2006 1:23 PM > > Re: Low B12. > > > hi peter > how can you say you dont like soya milk ? its the> best > > linda galvin <ljgukuk wrote:> > Hi Peter> > Thanks for that.> > I don't like soya milk or anything milk like.> It would be available from greens eg vegetable etc> wouldn't it.> Things like Marmite i think might be high in Vitamin> B> aswell i think?> I know Marmite is vegan but are there any similar> vegan marmite alternatives.> > > --- Peter <metalscarab wrote:> > > > To send an email to> - > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 11, 2006 Hi Louis >hi peter >How can you say you dont like soya milk ? its the best I don't think I ever have said that I didn't like soya milk... but if I was going to, the method would most likely involve movement of the lips, tongue and vocal chords, along with some expulsion of air... best achieved by good diaphragm control :-) BB Peter Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 11, 2006 I let my kid eats dirt in the backyard, to get b12. but we also supplement. last night, I spent 120 dollars on groceries at Whole Foods Market. My wallet is hurting and I think that I will never go there again. it is just such a nice place to shop. however, I had read, an email about how they are not so nice as they appear. for instance, they promote organic produce, but most of it is not local. They are putting some local, neighnborhood,farmers out of business, while using up fossil fuels to ship things from far away countries. my ultimate goal (if possible) is to not shop for food at all and to have a wild crazy backyard(however small it is) with all kinds of edible foods. To live off the earth, I am saving the seeds of the things that I eat in a glass Jar and starting seedlings. , louis stott <lsstott wrote: > > yes thats true we are all diffenent things dont we ? but marmite now we are tolkin > i love it too bet you like it think on toast ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 11, 2006 thanks michael, i did not know this, I will get that one. sometimes i forget about the whole b12 thing. , " Michael Benis " <michaelbenis wrote: > > methylcobalamin is absorbed and used more efficiently > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 11, 2006 the local whole foods here lists where each veggie and fruit comes from.... it'll say " grown in so and so farm in california " , er " from chile " , er wotever..and i can at least make informed choices that way... >Anouk Sickler <zurumato >Apr 11, 2006 10:24 AM > > Re: Low B12. > >I let my kid eats dirt in the backyard, to get b12. but we also >supplement. > >last night, I spent 120 dollars on groceries at Whole Foods Market. > >My wallet is hurting and I think that I will never go there again. >it is just such a nice place to shop. > >however, I had read, an email about how they are not so nice as they >appear. > >for instance, they promote organic produce, but most of it is not >local. They are putting some local, neighnborhood,farmers out of >business, while using up fossil fuels to ship things from far away >countries. > >my ultimate goal (if possible) is to not shop for food at all >and to have a wild crazy backyard(however small it is) with all >kinds of edible foods. To live off the earth, I am saving >the seeds of the things that I eat in a glass Jar and starting >seedlings. > > > > , louis stott <lsstott wrote: >> >> yes thats true we are all diffenent things dont we ? but marmite now >we are tolkin >> i love it too bet you like it think on toast ? > > > > > > >To send an email to - > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 11, 2006 All the supermarket fruit & veg in this country is labelled with the country of origin, usually a tiny label. It is very hard to buy locally grown organic produce around where I live, and due to the climate impossible to buy exotic / citrus of UK origin. The Valley Vegan............fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: the local whole foods here lists where each veggie and fruit comes from....it'll say "grown in so and so farm in california", er "from chile", er wotever..and i can at least make informed choices that way...>Anouk Sickler >Apr 11, 2006 10:24 AM> > Re: Low B12.>>I let my kid eats dirt in the backyard, to get b12. but we also>supplement. >>last night, I spent 120 dollars on groceries at Whole Foods Market. >>My wallet is hurting and I think that I will never go there again. >it is just such a nice place to shop. >>however, I had read, an email about how they are not so nice as they>appear. >>for instance, they promote organic produce, but most of it is not >local. They are putting some local, neighnborhood,farmers out of>business, while using up fossil fuels to ship things from far away >countries. >>my ultimate goal (if possible) is to not shop for food at all>and to have a wild crazy backyard(however small it is) with all >kinds of edible foods. To live off the earth, I am saving >the seeds of the things that I eat in a glass Jar and starting >seedlings. >>>> , louis stott wrote:>>>> yes thats true we are all diffenent things dont we ? but marmite now>we are tolkin >> i love it too bet you like it think on toast ? >>>>>>>To send an email to - > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 11, 2006 Nah, you keep your Marmite, swap you for your soya milk? The Valley Vegan.....................linda galvin <ljgukuk wrote: Well i just don't like anything milky be it soya milkor anything similar.People like different things.I love Marmite to death but don't think it's a crimeif others hate it with equal passion.--- louis stott wrote:> sorry peter > > hi linda > how can you say you dont like soya milk ? i love> it .. it makes good coffee> > fraggle wrote:> well...linda wrote the not liking soymilk bit> > and...different strokes fer different folks....> > and..at least peter doesn't like marmite!!!> ewww> > > -----Original Message----- > louis stott > Apr 10, 2006 1:23 PM > > Re: Low B12. > > > hi peter > how can you say you dont like soya milk ? its the> best > > linda galvin wrote:> > Hi Peter> > Thanks for that.> > I don't like soya milk or anything milk like.> It would be available from greens eg vegetable etc> wouldn't it.> Things like Marmite i think might be high in Vitamin> B> aswell i think?> I know Marmite is vegan but are there any similar> vegan marmite alternatives.> > > --- Peter wrote:> > > > To send an email to> - > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 11, 2006 sorry cart swap i like them both to much peter hurd <swpgh01 wrote: Nah, you keep your Marmite, swap you for your soya milk? The Valley Vegan.....................linda galvin <ljgukuk wrote: Well i just don't like anything milky be it soya milkor anything similar.People like different things.I love Marmite to death but don't think it's a crimeif others hate it with equal passion.--- louis stott wrote:> sorry peter > > hi linda > how can you say you dont like soya milk ? i love> it .. it makes good coffee> > fraggle wrote:> well...linda wrote the not liking soymilk bit> > and...different strokes fer different folks....> > and..at least peter doesn't like marmite!!!> ewww> > > > louis stott > Apr 10, 2006 1:23 PM > > Re: Low B12. > > > hi peter > how can you say you dont like soya milk ? its the> best > > linda galvin wrote:> > Hi Peter> > Thanks for that.> > I don't like soya milk or anything milk like.> It would be available from greens eg vegetable etc> wouldn't it.> Things like Marmite i think might be high in Vitamin> B> aswell i think?> I know Marmite is vegan but are there any similar> vegan marmite alternatives.> > > --- Peter wrote:> > > > To send an email to> - > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 11, 2006 LOL :-) Jo - Peter Tuesday, April 11, 2006 5:43 PM Re: Low B12. Hi Louis >hi peter >How can you say you dont like soya milk ? its the best I don't think I ever have said that I didn't like soya milk... but if I was going to, the method would most likely involve movement of the lips, tongue and vocal chords, along with some expulsion of air... best achieved by good diaphragm control :-) BB Peter Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 11, 2006 You might be able to get stuff from the Welsh Horticultural College's vegan organic (stockfree) box scheme. You should be able to get more info at the vegan Organic Network http://www.veganorganic.net Cheers Mike On Behalf Of peter hurd11 April 2006 19:05 Subject: Re: Re: Low B12. All the supermarket fruit & veg in this country is labelled with the country of origin, usually a tiny label. It is very hard to buy locally grown organic produce around where I live, and due to the climate impossible to buy exotic / citrus of UK origin. The Valley Vegan............fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: the local whole foods here lists where each veggie and fruit comes from....it'll say "grown in so and so farm in california", er "from chile", er wotever..and i can at least make informed choices that way...>Anouk Sickler >Apr 11, 2006 10:24 AM> > Re: Low B12.>>I let my kid eats dirt in the backyard, to get b12. but we also>supplement. >>last night, I spent 120 dollars on groceries at Whole Foods Market. >>My wallet is hurting and I think that I will never go there again. >it is just such a nice place to shop. >>however, I had read, an email about how they are not so nice as they>appear. >>for instance, they promote organic produce, but most of it is not >local. They are putting some local, neighnborhood,farmers out of>business, while using up fossil fuels to ship things from far away >countries. >>my ultimate goal (if possible) is to not shop for food at all>and to have a wild crazy backyard(however small it is) with all >kinds of edible foods. To live off the earth, I am saving >the seeds of the things that I eat in a glass Jar and starting >seedlings. >>>> , louis stott wrote:>>>> yes thats true we are all diffenent things dont we ? but marmite now>we are tolkin >> i love it too bet you like it think on toast ? >>>>>>>To send an email to - > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 12, 2006 Well i wouldn't be offering you my Marmite as i like it too much and as i don't like soya milk i wouldn't have any too swap. --- peter hurd <swpgh01 wrote: > Nah, you keep your Marmite, swap you for your soya > milk? > > The Valley Vegan..................... > > linda galvin <ljgukuk wrote: > Well i just don't like anything milky be it soya > milk > or anything similar.People like different things. > I love Marmite to death but don't think it's a crime > if others hate it with equal passion. > > --- louis stott wrote: > > > sorry peter > > > > hi linda > > how can you say you dont like soya milk ? i love > > it .. it makes good coffee > > > > fraggle wrote: > > well...linda wrote the not liking soymilk bit > > > > and...different strokes fer different folks.... > > > > and..at least peter doesn't like marmite!!! > > ewww > > > > > > > > louis stott > > Apr 10, 2006 1:23 PM > > > > Re: Low B12. > > > > > > hi peter > > how can you say you dont like soya milk ? its the > > best > > > > linda galvin wrote: > > > > Hi Peter > > > > Thanks for that. > > > > I don't like soya milk or anything milk like. > > It would be available from greens eg vegetable etc > > wouldn't it. > > Things like Marmite i think might be high in > Vitamin > > B > > aswell i think? > > I know Marmite is vegan but are there any similar > > vegan marmite alternatives. > > > > > > --- Peter wrote: > > > > > > > > To send an email to > > - > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 12, 2006 yes yum yum yes your right i love it with toast. --- louis stott <lsstott wrote: > yes thats true we are all diffenent things dont we ? > but marmite now we are tolkin > i love it too bet you like it think on toast ? > > linda galvin <ljgukuk wrote: > Well i just don't like anything milky be it soya > milk > or anything similar.People like different things. > I love Marmite to death but don't think it's a crime > if others hate it with equal passion. > > --- louis stott <lsstott wrote: > > > sorry peter > > > > hi linda > > how can you say you dont like soya milk ? i love > > it .. it makes good coffee > > > > fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: > > well...linda wrote the not liking soymilk > bit > > > > and...different strokes fer different folks.... > > > > and..at least peter doesn't like marmite!!! > > ewww > > > > > > > > louis stott > > Apr 10, 2006 1:23 PM > > > > Re: Low B12. > > > > > > hi peter > > how can you say you dont like soya milk ? its > the > > best > > > > linda galvin <ljgukuk wrote: > > > > Hi Peter > > > > Thanks for that. > > > > I don't like soya milk or anything milk like. > > It would be available from greens eg vegetable etc > > wouldn't it. > > Things like Marmite i think might be high in > Vitamin > > B > > aswell i think? > > I know Marmite is vegan but are there any similar > > vegan marmite alternatives. > > > > > > --- Peter <metalscarab wrote: > > > > > > > > To send an email to > > - > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 12, 2006 I have tried that link and sent a message to them enquiring. Thanks Mike. The Valley Vegan..............Michael Benis <michaelbenis wrote: You might be able to get stuff from the Welsh Horticultural College's vegan organic (stockfree) box scheme. You should be able to get more info at the vegan Organic Network http://www.veganorganic.net Cheers Mike On Behalf Of peter hurd11 April 2006 19:05 Subject: Re: Re: Low B12. All the supermarket fruit & veg in this country is labelled with the country of origin, usually a tiny label. It is very hard to buy locally grown organic produce around where I live, and due to the climate impossible to buy exotic / citrus of UK origin. The Valley Vegan............fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: the local whole foods here lists where each veggie and fruit comes from....it'll say "grown in so and so farm in california", er "from chile", er wotever..and i can at least make informed choices that way...>Anouk Sickler >Apr 11, 2006 10:24 AM> > Re: Low B12.>>I let my kid eats dirt in the backyard, to get b12. but we also>supplement. >>last night, I spent 120 dollars on groceries at Whole Foods Market. >>My wallet is hurting and I think that I will never go there again. >it is just such a nice place to shop. >>however, I had read, an email about how they are not so nice as they>appear. >>for instance, they promote organic produce, but most of it is not >local. They are putting some local, neighnborhood,farmers out of>business, while using up fossil fuels to ship things from far away >countries. >>my ultimate goal (if possible) is to not shop for food at all>and to have a wild crazy backyard(however small it is) with all >kinds of edible foods. To live off the earth, I am saving >the seeds of the things that I eat in a glass Jar and starting >seedlings. >>>> , louis stott wrote:>>>> yes thats true we are all diffenent things dont we ? but marmite now>we are tolkin >> i love it too bet you like it think on toast ? >>>>>>>To send an email to - > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 13, 2006 I don't like buying it though because of who makes it so i've been looking for something similar made by a small independent but i can't seem to find any similar product and i'm missing it loads. --- linda galvin <ljgukuk wrote: > > > yum yum yes your right i love it with toast. > > --- louis stott <lsstott wrote: > > > yes thats true we are all diffenent things dont we > ? > > but marmite now we are tolkin > > i love it too bet you like it think on toast ? > > > > linda galvin <ljgukuk wrote: > > Well i just don't like anything milky be it soya > > milk > > or anything similar.People like different things. > > I love Marmite to death but don't think it's a > crime > > if others hate it with equal passion. > > > > --- louis stott <lsstott wrote: > > > > > sorry peter > > > > > > hi linda > > > how can you say you dont like soya milk ? i > love > > > it .. it makes good coffee > > > > > > fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: > > > well...linda wrote the not liking soymilk > > bit > > > > > > and...different strokes fer different > folks.... > > > > > > and..at least peter doesn't like marmite!!! > > > ewww > > > > > > > > > > > > louis stott > > > Apr 10, 2006 1:23 PM > > > > > > Re: Low B12. > > > > > > > > > hi peter > > > how can you say you dont like soya milk ? its > > the > > > best > > > > > > linda galvin <ljgukuk wrote: > > > > > > Hi Peter > > > > > > Thanks for that. > > > > > > I don't like soya milk or anything milk like. > > > It would be available from greens eg vegetable > etc > > > wouldn't it. > > > Things like Marmite i think might be high in > > Vitamin > > > B > > > aswell i think? > > > I know Marmite is vegan but are there any > similar > > > vegan marmite alternatives. > > > > > > > > > --- Peter <metalscarab wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > To send an email to > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 16, 2006 hi fraggle, when you say that you can make informed choices, I really don't think that you see the problem. le me 'splain. I purposely went to the whole foods in my town, with the intention of proving a point to myself, why I shouldn't shop there (so often) NOT A SINGLE FRUIT or VEGETABLE was from florida. why must my blueberries be from New Zealand if there are blueberry farms nearby why must my garlic come from argentina, why must my organic grapes come from south africa, why must my bananas come from guatemala, why must my flowers come from columbia why must my tomatoes come from california ANd for godssake! why must my Oranges come from Mexico! I am living in a land that is so fertile that alls ya hafta do is spit out a seed on the ground and the next day there's a tree there. it didn't matter if something was organic, or not, in there, it was multiculralism 101. maybe, fraggle, when you do go to your local Whole Foods, things seem local to you because, well you are in california, and everything in there comes from california. But so does mine and California is not local for me. I have been to the Whole foods in North Carolina, New York, and Texas, the Same thing was happening. Everything was from California, or some other foreign country. Whole foods is a scam, because they are leading people to believe that they are doing a good thing by buying organic, when in reality they are using up a lot of the earths fuel by transportation of all of these fruits and vegetables, and putting the local farmers out of business. I really don't know who to blame, for the way our society is, Nearby, in Myakka, there are NEw condominiums being built as we speak, where there used to be a farms. , fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: > > the local whole foods here lists where each veggie and fruit comes from.... > it'll say " grown in so and so farm in california " , er " from chile " , er wotever..and i can at least make informed choices that way... > > > >Anouk Sickler <zurumato > >Apr 11, 2006 10:24 AM > > > > Re: Low B12. > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 17, 2006 well..i agree with you anouk the entire agricultural system in the US is set up that way but..my local whole foods at least lists where things come from, and they seem to make an effort to bring in local produce i could go to berkeley bowl, but, they don't tell me where anything comes from... the best bet..go to farmers markets.... luckily, there are several in my area... i just can't always make it to one... stoopid work.... fraggle >Anouk Sickler <zurumato >Apr 16, 2006 2:58 PM > > Re: Low B12. > >hi fraggle, > >when you say that you can make informed choices, I really don't >think that you see the problem. le me 'splain. > >I purposely went to the whole foods in my town, with the intention of >proving a point to myself, why I shouldn't shop there (so often) >NOT A SINGLE FRUIT or VEGETABLE was from florida. > >why must my blueberries be from New Zealand if there are blueberry >farms nearby > >why must my garlic come from argentina, >why must my organic grapes come from south africa, >why must my bananas come from guatemala, >why must my flowers come from columbia >why must my tomatoes come from california > >ANd for godssake! why must my Oranges come from Mexico! > >I am living in a land that is so fertile that alls ya >hafta do is spit out a seed on the ground and the next day >there's a tree there. > >it didn't matter if something was organic, or not, in there, it was >multiculralism 101. > >maybe, fraggle, when you do go to your local Whole Foods, >things seem local to you because, well you are in california, and >everything in there comes from california. > >But so does mine and California is not local for me. >I have been to the Whole foods in North Carolina, New York, and Texas, >the Same thing was happening. Everything was from California, or some >other foreign country. > >Whole foods is a scam, because they are leading people to believe >that they are doing a good thing by buying organic, when in reality >they are using up a lot of the earths fuel by transportation of all >of these fruits and vegetables, >and putting the local farmers out of business. > >I really don't know who to blame, for the way our society is, >Nearby, in Myakka, there are NEw condominiums being built as we speak, > where there used to be a farms. > > You can bomb the world to pieces You can't bomb it into peace Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 17, 2006 HI Anouk I recognise your point. The US is so big that just because something comes from one part does not make it locally grown. AFterall the US is lots of small countries pretending to be one. For us in Britain it is like saying that food from anywhere in Europe is local. Jo - " Anouk Sickler " <zurumato Sunday, April 16, 2006 10:58 PM Re: Low B12. > hi fraggle, > > when you say that you can make informed choices, I really don't > think that you see the problem. le me 'splain. > > I purposely went to the whole foods in my town, with the intention of > proving a point to myself, why I shouldn't shop there (so often) > NOT A SINGLE FRUIT or VEGETABLE was from florida. > > why must my blueberries be from New Zealand if there are blueberry > farms nearby > > why must my garlic come from argentina, > why must my organic grapes come from south africa, > why must my bananas come from guatemala, > why must my flowers come from columbia > why must my tomatoes come from california > > ANd for godssake! why must my Oranges come from Mexico! > > I am living in a land that is so fertile that alls ya > hafta do is spit out a seed on the ground and the next day > there's a tree there. > > it didn't matter if something was organic, or not, in there, it was > multiculralism 101. > > maybe, fraggle, when you do go to your local Whole Foods, > things seem local to you because, well you are in california, and > everything in there comes from california. > > But so does mine and California is not local for me. > I have been to the Whole foods in North Carolina, New York, and Texas, > the Same thing was happening. Everything was from California, or some > other foreign country. > > Whole foods is a scam, because they are leading people to believe > that they are doing a good thing by buying organic, when in reality > they are using up a lot of the earths fuel by transportation of all > of these fruits and vegetables, > and putting the local farmers out of business. > > I really don't know who to blame, for the way our society is, > Nearby, in Myakka, there are NEw condominiums being built as we speak, > where there used to be a farms. > > > , fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: > > > > the local whole foods here lists where each veggie and fruit comes > from.... > > it'll say " grown in so and so farm in california " , er " from chile " , > er wotever..and i can at least make informed choices that way... > > > > > > >Anouk Sickler <zurumato > > >Apr 11, 2006 10:24 AM > > > > > > Re: Low B12. > > > > To send an email to - > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 18, 2006 i never thought about it that way, but you;re right, seems like that. coming from new york to florida is vastly differently mostly different mindset of people. everyone here is very laid back and not in a hurry, except when driving of course. We have a combination of very very slow drivers,( many elderly folks in their 90's) and very very fast inconsiderate jerks(young newcomers), which makes not a good combination. We have the highest pedestrian deaths. One thing that unites us all in the us is, well.. target, walmart, home depot, mcdonalds, etc. Those are pretty much everywhere. , " jo " <jo.heartwork wrote: > > HI Anouk > > I recognise your point. The US is so big that just because something comes > from one part does not make it locally grown. AFterall the US is lots of > small countries pretending to be one. For us in Britain it is like saying > that food from anywhere in Europe is local. > ound and the next day > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 18, 2006 I will go more often to the farmers market. I consider myself a farmer, a tiny one. even if I just grow one tomato, it will be worth it and will taste better to me. I think that what is kinda mess up is how the us is a consuming society, consuming the products of other countries. instead of a producing society, producing their own goods and being self sufficient. I do not wish, to be part of this consuming/ parasitic, / co-dependent environment that does not take the conseqquences to the earth in mind. of course i am just trying, i am human, faulty. , fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: > > well..i agree with you anouk > the entire agricultural system in the US is set up that way > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
