witches

[Guest guest]

yer partner can make a harp?

pretty nice!

 

yeah..it was dang large....some ppl that sat on our couch had to look thru it to

see the rest of the living room..not like there was that much to see!

 

 

jo <jo.heartwork

Nov 10, 2005 10:36 AM

 

Re: Re: witches

 

They are rather large. I reckon if our sitting room was larger Colin would

make one :-)

 

Jo

-

" fraggle " <EBbrewpunx

 

Thursday, November 10, 2005 6:00 PM

Re: Re: witches

 

 

> michele, my friend who was the total buffy fanatic, played the harp..

> dang thing took up have my living room when she was my room mate....

>

>

>

> Anouk Sickler <zurumato

> Nov 10, 2005 9:06 AM

>

> Re: witches

>

> The harp

> it is rare to hear someone play it.

> isn't a very popular instrument, it is like going back in time.

>

>

> It always amazes me the level of acceptance that England seems to have

> when it comes to people that are non-conforming or have alterntive

> lifestyle,

> like witches for instance, would have a harder time here, of course

> it depends on the job.

>

>

>

> > didn't get to any of them. We did go to a harp performance which was

> > beautiful.

> > >

> > I guess I am lucky where I work. On my floor there are three

> witches - all

> > out of the broom closet.

> >

To send an email to -

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Peter

 

Well at least I learned from the talk, as it made you chat about it :-)

 

BB

Jo

 

, " Peter " <metalscarab@g...> wrote:

>

> Hi Jo

>

> > The Witchfest was really good. We went to talks on John Dee by David

> > Rankine (I think Peter disagreed with a lot of what he said),

>

> That's putting it mildly.... he got his Queen Mary's in a muddle

(claiming

> that Mary, Queen of Scots Catholocised England), stated that Elias

Ashmole

> had written the first book on Freemasonry, and I'm still intrigued

as to how

> Dee could have been basing his magic on the book of Enoch when it wasn't

> known about in the Western World until 200 years after he died. Oh

yes, and

> there was that business of John Dee having started the concept of Angel

> Magic, completely ignoring Trithemius and Champier who had both written

> about it 100 years earlier!

>

> > We went to a talk by Ronald Hutton on Wicca and Druidry, covering

> > the history and present time - likenesses and differences, a talk

by an

> > American chap - I think his name was James Bennett. He did a dramatic

> > storytelling type talk on Gilgamesh and Enkidu, which I enjoyed,

but Colin

> > and Peter didn't.

>

> I thought it was quite good, but I don't think story-telling should

be read

> out, it should be from the memory, and I thought he was a bit too

full of

> himself!

>

> BB

> Peter

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Peter

 

There is one witch who most Pagans cringe at - he appears on telly

whenever he can - but I've forgotten his name - Peter (K) remind me?

 

Catherine is well now. After her operation she got MRSA and took a

while to get better. She is not on Vegan Chat now, but does keep in

touch with me.

 

Jo

 

, peter hurd <swpgh01@t...> wrote:

>

> Depends, some witches dont have business cards printed advertising

it, and are just more in tune with nature. Then there are the

attention seeking ones who try and go out of their way to appear on

tele/radio/papers etc.

>

> The Valley Vegan............

> ( where`s the Pengam Princess?)

>

> Anouk Sickler <zurumato@e...> wrote:

>

> I don't understand what is the purpose of being a witch. what work do

> people do as a " Witch "

> my sister in law calls herself witch, wanting legitimacy but I just

> don't get it.

> It's not like spells work. or do they?

>

> people lost their lives because of being accused of this.

> I don't mean to be disrespectful, but to me to when an adult calls

> themselves a witch it seems so fairytale.. kinda like saying that i am

> an elf or something.

>

> I wonder if some witches are just normal people trying to sound cool

> or interesting?

>

>

>

>

> >

> >

> > LOL - the good witch on the Wizard of Oz!

> > *sly smile*

> >

> > BB

> > Nikki

> >

>

To send an email to -

>

[Guest guest]

Mostly gods/goddesses are invoked in ritual, but not many people I

know ask for help when working.

 

BB

Jo

 

, fraggle <EBbrewpunx@e...> wrote:

>

> hmmmm

> yeah

> but not fer all magic i think...

> i mean..there are a number of magical traditions were you ask the

intervention of spirits, loa, nature gods, etc and so forth...dependin

on wot path you take....

>

>

> Peter <metalscarab@g...>

> Nov 10, 2005 10:25 AM

>

> Re: witches

>

> Basically, the

> difference between witchcraft and praying is that praying asks

someone else

> to change things on your behalf, and spellwork is at the direct

influence of

> the individual.

>

> >

>

> " Just as nightfall does not come at once, neither

> does oppression. In both instances there is a twilight. And it is in

such twilight

> that we all must be aware of change in the air - however slight -

lest we become

> unwilling victims of the darkness. "

> William O. Douglas

>

[Guest guest]

He would be able to - he's pretty nifty :-)

 

Jo

 

, fraggle <EBbrewpunx@e...> wrote:

>

> yer partner can make a harp?

> pretty nice!

>

> yeah..it was dang large....some ppl that sat on our couch had to

look thru it to see the rest of the living room..not like there was

that much to see!

>

>

> jo <jo.heartwork@g...>

> Nov 10, 2005 10:36 AM

>

> Re: Re: witches

>

> They are rather large. I reckon if our sitting room was larger

Colin would

> make one :-)

>

> Jo

> -

> " fraggle " <EBbrewpunx@e...>

>

> Thursday, November 10, 2005 6:00 PM

> Re: Re: witches

>

>

> > michele, my friend who was the total buffy fanatic, played the harp..

> > dang thing took up have my living room when she was my room mate....

> >

> >

> >

> > Anouk Sickler <zurumato@e...>

> > Nov 10, 2005 9:06 AM

> >

> > Re: witches

> >

> > The harp

> > it is rare to hear someone play it.

> > isn't a very popular instrument, it is like going back in time.

> >

> >

> > It always amazes me the level of acceptance that England seems to have

> > when it comes to people that are non-conforming or have alterntive

> > lifestyle,

> > like witches for instance, would have a harder time here, of course

> > it depends on the job.

> >

> >

> >

> > > didn't get to any of them. We did go to a harp performance

which was

> > > beautiful.

> > > >

> > > I guess I am lucky where I work. On my floor there are three

> > witches - all

> > > out of the broom closet.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > To send an email to -

> >

[Guest guest]

Glad she`s O.K., give her my best ....

 

The Valley Vegan...........heartwerk <jo.heartwork wrote:

Hi PeterThere is one witch who most Pagans cringe at - he appears on tellywhenever he can - but I've forgotten his name - Peter (K) remind me?Catherine is well now. After her operation she got MRSA and took awhile to get better. She is not on Vegan Chat now, but does keep intouch with me.Jo , peter hurd wrote:>> Depends, some witches dont have business cards printed advertisingit, and are just more in tune with nature. Then there are theattention seeking ones who try and go out of their way to appear ontele/radio/papers etc.> > The Valley Vegan............> ( where`s the Pengam Princess?)> > Anouk Sickler wrote:> > I don't understand what is the purpose of being a witch. what work do > people do as a

"Witch"> my sister in law calls herself witch, wanting legitimacy but I just> don't get it.> It's not like spells work. or do they?> > people lost their lives because of being accused of this. > I don't mean to be disrespectful, but to me to when an adult calls> themselves a witch it seems so fairytale.. kinda like saying that i am> an elf or something. > > I wonder if some witches are just normal people trying to sound cool> or interesting?> > > > > > > > > > LOL - the good witch on the Wizard of Oz!> > *sly smile*> > > > BB> > Nikki > >> > > > > > > > To send an email to - >

[Guest guest]

Sky? give me a break will you ( and don`t say which limb, smart alec)

 

The Valley Vegan...........jo <jo.heartwork wrote:

 

Hi Peter

 

Is that from Ozzy or Sky? .... and of course they wear boots, it's quite muddy out there you know.

 

Jo

 

-

peter hurd

Thursday, November 10, 2005 7:10 PM

Re: witches

 

Hey fairies wear boots and you bettr belive it!

 

The Valley Vegan..........jo <jo.heartwork wrote:

You don't believe in fairies :-)?Jo-"Anouk Sickler" Thursday, November 10, 2005 5:46 AM witches>> I don't understand what is the purpose of being a witch. what work do> people do as a "Witch"> my sister in law calls herself witch, wanting legitimacy but I just> don't get it.> It's not like spells work. or do they?>> people lost their lives because of being accused of this.> I don't mean to be disrespectful, but to me to when an adult calls> themselves a witch it seems so fairytale.. kinda like saying that i am> an elf or something.>> I wonder if some witches are just normal people trying to sound cool> or

interesting?>>>>> >> >> > LOL - the good witch on the Wizard of Oz!> > *sly smile*> >> > BB> > Nikki > >>>>>>>>> To send an email to - >

[Guest guest]

I will do that Peter. I shall try to persuade her to rejoin too.

 

Jo

 

, peter hurd <swpgh01@t...> wrote:

>

> Glad she`s O.K., give her my best ....

>

> The Valley Vegan...........

>

> heartwerk <jo.heartwork@g...> wrote:

> Hi Peter

>

> There is one witch who most Pagans cringe at - he appears on telly

> whenever he can - but I've forgotten his name - Peter (K) remind me?

>

> Catherine is well now. After her operation she got MRSA and took a

> while to get better. She is not on Vegan Chat now, but does keep in

> touch with me.

>

> Jo

>

> , peter hurd wrote:

> >

> > Depends, some witches dont have business cards printed advertising

> it, and are just more in tune with nature. Then there are the

> attention seeking ones who try and go out of their way to appear on

> tele/radio/papers etc.

> >

> > The Valley Vegan............

> > ( where`s the Pengam Princess?)

> >

> > Anouk Sickler wrote:

> >

> > I don't understand what is the purpose of being a witch. what work do

> > people do as a " Witch "

> > my sister in law calls herself witch, wanting legitimacy but I just

> > don't get it.

> > It's not like spells work. or do they?

> >

> > people lost their lives because of being accused of this.

> > I don't mean to be disrespectful, but to me to when an adult calls

> > themselves a witch it seems so fairytale.. kinda like saying that i am

> > an elf or something.

> >

> > I wonder if some witches are just normal people trying to sound cool

> > or interesting?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > LOL - the good witch on the Wizard of Oz!

> > > *sly smile*

> > >

> > > BB

> > > Nikki

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > To send an email to

-

> >

[Guest guest]

Peter,

I have had every message you have sent three times, what is going on?

 

The Valley Vegan.............Peter <metalscarab wrote:

Hi Jo> The Witchfest was really good. We went to talks on John Dee by David> Rankine (I think Peter disagreed with a lot of what he said),That's putting it mildly.... he got his Queen Mary's in a muddle (claimingthat Mary, Queen of Scots Catholocised England), stated that Elias Ashmolehad written the first book on Freemasonry, and I'm still intrigued as to howDee could have been basing his magic on the book of Enoch when it wasn'tknown about in the Western World until 200 years after he died. Oh yes, andthere was that business of John Dee having started the concept of AngelMagic, completely ignoring Trithemius and Champier who had both writtenabout it 100 years earlier!> We went to a talk by Ronald Hutton on Wicca and Druidry, covering> the history and present time - likenesses and differences, a talk by

an> American chap - I think his name was James Bennett. He did a dramatic> storytelling type talk on Gilgamesh and Enkidu, which I enjoyed, but Colin> and Peter didn't.I thought it was quite good, but I don't think story-telling should be readout, it should be from the memory, and I thought he was a bit too full ofhimself!BBPeter

[Guest guest]

he really wants his point to be made.... peter hurd Nov 10, 2005 11:51 AM Re: Re: witches

Peter,

I have had every message you have sent three times, what is going on?

 

The Valley Vegan.............Peter <metalscarab wrote:

Hi Jo> The Witchfest was really good. We went to talks on John Dee by David> Rankine (I think Peter disagreed with a lot of what he said),That's putting it mildly.... he got his Queen Mary's in a muddle (claimingthat Mary, Queen of Scots Catholocised England), stated that Elias Ashmolehad written the first book on Freemasonry, and I'm still intrigued as to howDee could have been basing his magic on the book of Enoch when it wasn'tknown about in the Western World until 200 years after he died. Oh yes, andthere was that business of John Dee having started the concept of AngelMagic, completely ignoring Trithemius and Champier who had both writtenabout it 100 years earlier!> We went to a talk by Ronald Hutton on Wicca and Druidry, covering> the history and present time - likenesses and differences, a talk by an> American chap - I think his name was James Bennett. He did a dramatic> storytelling type talk on Gilgamesh and Enkidu, which I enjoyed, but Colin> and Peter didn't.I thought it was quite good, but I don't think story-telling should be readout, it should be from the memory, and I thought he was a bit too full ofhimself!BBPeter

[Guest guest]

Hi Jo

 

That sounds like a wonderful time! I'm glad that you enjoyed so much

of it.

 

BB

Nikki

 

, " jo " <jo.heartwork@g...> wrote:

>

> Hi Nikki

>

> The Witchfest was really good. We went to talks on John Dee by

David

> Rankine (I think Peter disagreed with a lot of what he said),

David Wells on

> his spiritual path and techniques. David is a psychic/astrologer,

and led

> us (the audience) in a short meditation/visualisation, which was

very

> powerful. We went to a talk by Ronald Hutton on Wicca and

Druidry, covering

> the history and present time - likenesses and differences, a talk

by an

> American chap - I think his name was James Bennett. He did a

dramatic

> storytelling type talk on Gilgamesh and Enkidu, which I enjoyed,

but Colin

> and Peter didn't. We also heard Terry Pratchett talking on where

he got his

> ideas contained in his stories. He was very amusing, and learned

that most

> Pagans are sci-fi fans, Star Trek fans in particular, much to his

surprise.

> There were many more speakers, all of whom I would have liked to

have heard,

> but you can fit only so much into one day. There were also

workshops, but I

> didn't get to any of them. We did go to a harp performance which

was

> beautiful.

>

> The evening entertainment was good. It was in two halls but

because

> everything was running late we didn't get to see all we wanted

to. We saw a

> few numbers by a pop-punk band and missed the heavy goth band and

Inkubus

> Sukubus unfortunately. We did see part of the medieval

mjusicians, and all

> of Medieval Babes.

>

> Maybe Alex can also let you know what she saw there.

>

> I guess I am lucky where I work. On my floor there are three

witches - all

> out of the broom closet.

>

> BB

> Jo

[Guest guest]

Hi Anouk

 

At least they have lots of choices before them! lol

 

Nikki

 

 

, " Anouk Sickler " <zurumato@e...>

wrote:

>

> Hi Alex,

>

> Thanks, it sounds interesting.

>

> last year for christmas, my two little boys, got Pagan stuff from

my

> sister inlaw,

>

> " a pagan childs coloring book " , something like " winter solstice "

> books and

> little pagan dolls, and earth is our mother books.

>

> They also got from her dad, who lives in Texas and is a total

> christian republican, a Jesus, playmobile set, my first bibles,

> revelations and john baseball caps.

>

> you get the picture, they are confused!

[Guest guest]

Hi Anouk

 

 

> I disagree, all beliefs are not the same.

 

I think what Fraggle meant was that a religion is just that, a

religion. And he is probably more aware of witches and wiccan ways

than you so he states it more plainly.

 

Nice of you to come to the defense tho!

 

> but I do not respect

> posers,

> you know, there must be alot of those in california.

 

But there are posers in every religion. I cannot think of one true

Christian who does no wrong at all. A Catholic priest even errs we

know. etc etc (I only name these two religions, because I was one at

one time or another)

 

> Have you been to Woodstock, NY ? too many people call themselves

> witches or vampires or whatever just to make themselves

interesting.

> my attitude is " yeah, sure you are "

 

Many witches follow many different paths and beliefs. I agree people

who claim they are a witch sometimes are not and do so only to

be " cool " . But you never know...

 

 

> I had a boyfriend once who said that he was a vampire. He did all

> these rituals and I was like " oh please "

> when I got to know him, he turned out to be boring and normal.

 

LOL I am boring and normal myself.

 

> at the mommies group that I belong to, every joe dick and harry is

now

> calling themselves a witch. without really being able to define

> what it is they believe in.

 

This can be common. There are many different Wiccan/Witch religions

out there and one may not want to follow each rule set forth. I

myself am mostly a Solitary Witch. The closest Wiccan group I know

that comes near in my beliefs is Corellian Wiccan. At least that I

know of.

 

> I find it disrespectful that some people are treating being a

> Witches lightly as a joke, when a lot of women, men and children

> died for being accused of having that title.

 

Again tho, that is any religion sadly.

 

> People in organized religions are rarely posers just to be cool.

 

Not to be cool maybe, but some are just looking to belong.

 

 

> prayer and magic are not the same.

 

But they very well can be. I cannot shoot flames from my fingertips

or blink and have a vegan cake appear in front of me. But I can

recite a ritual in a good time and ask it to be. In many ways it is

very much like prayer.

 

I don't discount everything you have said, please don't get me

wrong. Just giving another view.

 

((hugz))

 

Nikki

[Guest guest]

Someone who prays to whatever god or inanimate object 20 times a day, may be more fastidious in their worship than someone who prays to their chosed ido l, but it does not make their belief system any more valid in anyone elses eyes but their own.

 

The Vegan Village............

Tolerance is the answer.

 

earthstrm <nikkimack wrote:

Hi Anouk> I disagree, all beliefs are not the same.I think what Fraggle meant was that a religion is just that, a religion. And he is probably more aware of witches and wiccan ways than you so he states it more plainly.Nice of you to come to the defense tho! > but I do not respect> posers,> you know, there must be alot of those in california.But there are posers in every religion. I cannot think of one true Christian who does no wrong at all. A Catholic priest even errs we know. etc etc (I only name these two religions, because I was one at one time or another)> Have you been to Woodstock, NY ? too many people call themselves > witches or vampires or whatever just to make themselves interesting. > my attitude is "yeah, sure you are"Many witches follow many

different paths and beliefs. I agree people who claim they are a witch sometimes are not and do so only to be "cool". But you never know...> I had a boyfriend once who said that he was a vampire. He did all> these rituals and I was like "oh please" > when I got to know him, he turned out to be boring and normal. LOL I am boring and normal myself.> at the mommies group that I belong to, every joe dick and harry is now> calling themselves a witch. without really being able to define> what it is they believe in. This can be common. There are many different Wiccan/Witch religions out there and one may not want to follow each rule set forth. I myself am mostly a Solitary Witch. The closest Wiccan group I know that comes near in my beliefs is Corellian Wiccan. At least that I know of.> I find it disrespectful that some people are treating being a > Witches lightly as a joke,

when a lot of women, men and children> died for being accused of having that title. Again tho, that is any religion sadly.> People in organized religions are rarely posers just to be cool. Not to be cool maybe, but some are just looking to belong.> prayer and magic are not the same. But they very well can be. I cannot shoot flames from my fingertips or blink and have a vegan cake appear in front of me. But I can recite a ritual in a good time and ask it to be. In many ways it is very much like prayer.I don't discount everything you have said, please don't get me wrong. Just giving another view.((hugz))Nikki

[Guest guest]

Hi Jo

 

> There is one witch who most Pagans cringe at - he appears on telly

> whenever he can - but I've forgotten his name - Peter (K) remind me?

 

Kevin Carlyon, aka Gilderoy Lockhart :-)

 

BB

Peter

[Guest guest]

Hi Fraggle

 

> hmmmm

> yeah

> but not fer all magic i think...

> i mean..there are a number of magical traditions were you ask the

intervention of spirits, loa, nature gods, etc and so

> forth...dependin on wot path you take....

 

There are traditions where deities / spirits are invoked to aid with magic.

However, the difference here is that there is still a level of control over

events from the individual performing the magic. You may ask a particular

god to strengthen your magic, but it is not complete subordination to a

deity. Prayer has a status in which you merely request someone else to do

something for you.

 

BB

Peter

[Guest guest]

Thanks Nikki - it's a pity you couldn't have been there - we would

have enjoyed it together :-)

 

Jo

 

, " earthstrm " <nikkimack@m...> wrote:

>

> Hi Jo

>

> That sounds like a wonderful time! I'm glad that you enjoyed so much

> of it.

>

> BB

> Nikki

>

> , " jo " <jo.heartwork@g...> wrote:

> >

> > Hi Nikki

> >

> > The Witchfest was really good. We went to talks on John Dee by

> David

> > Rankine (I think Peter disagreed with a lot of what he said),

> David Wells on

> > his spiritual path and techniques. David is a psychic/astrologer,

> and led

> > us (the audience) in a short meditation/visualisation, which was

> very

> > powerful. We went to a talk by Ronald Hutton on Wicca and

> Druidry, covering

> > the history and present time - likenesses and differences, a talk

> by an

> > American chap - I think his name was James Bennett. He did a

> dramatic

> > storytelling type talk on Gilgamesh and Enkidu, which I enjoyed,

> but Colin

> > and Peter didn't. We also heard Terry Pratchett talking on where

> he got his

> > ideas contained in his stories. He was very amusing, and learned

> that most

> > Pagans are sci-fi fans, Star Trek fans in particular, much to his

> surprise.

> > There were many more speakers, all of whom I would have liked to

> have heard,

> > but you can fit only so much into one day. There were also

> workshops, but I

> > didn't get to any of them. We did go to a harp performance which

> was

> > beautiful.

> >

> > The evening entertainment was good. It was in two halls but

> because

> > everything was running late we didn't get to see all we wanted

> to. We saw a

> > few numbers by a pop-punk band and missed the heavy goth band and

> Inkubus

> > Sukubus unfortunately. We did see part of the medieval

> mjusicians, and all

> > of Medieval Babes.

> >

> > Maybe Alex can also let you know what she saw there.

> >

> > I guess I am lucky where I work. On my floor there are three

> witches - all

> > out of the broom closet.

> >

> > BB

> > Jo

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Peter

 

LOL - That's the chap. Just like Gilderoy, but not quite such a nice

smile :-)

 

BB

Jo

 

, " Peter " <metalscarab@g...> wrote:

>

> Hi Jo

>

> > There is one witch who most Pagans cringe at - he appears on telly

> > whenever he can - but I've forgotten his name - Peter (K) remind me?

>

> Kevin Carlyon, aka Gilderoy Lockhart :-)

>

> BB

> Peter

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Jo

 

I think so too. I think I would have had a wonderful time.

 

So let's see, Witchfest and a concert. That's two outings we owe

another.

 

BB

Nikki

 

 

, " heartwerk " <jo.heartwork@g...>

wrote:

>

> Thanks Nikki - it's a pity you couldn't have been there - we would

> have enjoyed it together :-)

>

> Jo

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Nikki

 

Well last weekend was Witchfest and a Stratovarius/Hammerfall concert.

Maybe next year there will be other concerts on :-)

 

BB

Jo

-

" earthstrm " <nikkimack

 

Friday, November 11, 2005 1:26 PM

Re: witches

 

 

> Hi Jo

>

> I think so too. I think I would have had a wonderful time.

>

> So let's see, Witchfest and a concert. That's two outings we owe

> another.

>

> BB

> Nikki

>

>

> , " heartwerk " <jo.heartwork@g...>

> wrote:

> >

> > Thanks Nikki - it's a pity you couldn't have been there - we would

> > have enjoyed it together :-)

> >

> > Jo

> >

>

>

To send an email to -

>

[Guest guest]

Hi there :-)

 

I shared some of Jo's experiences at Witchfest but also saw Kate West,

who is a great speaker, and went to two workshops with Tam Campbell,

who was really brilliant. One was on Moving Magic and was all about

spellwork and charging it in a fun way. I took away some ideas to do

both with my community and also with my daughter when she is a little

older. The other was on Calling the Gods. I thought it wasn't quite as

good as the first one but I think it was because it had to be fairly

basic and he had to change the format (from workshop to talk) at the

last minute due to the nature of the room and the seating arrangements.

I managed to see only half of the Mediaeval Babes as I was basically

falling asleep by the evening but enjoyed what I saw very much! It was

a really lovely and quite worthwhile day. If I go next year, I am

dressing up though as I had clothes-envy:-)

 

BB

AlexOn 10/11/05, jo <jo.heartwork wrote:

 

Hi Nikki

 

The Witchfest was really good. We went to talks on John Dee by David

Rankine (I think Peter disagreed with a lot of what he said), David Wells on

his spiritual path and techniques. David is a psychic/astrologer, and led

us (the audience) in a short meditation/visualisation, which was very

powerful. We went to a talk by Ronald Hutton on Wicca and Druidry, covering

the history and present time - likenesses and differences, a talk by an

American chap - I think his name was James Bennett. He did a dramatic

storytelling type talk on Gilgamesh and Enkidu, which I enjoyed, but Colin

and Peter didn't. We also heard Terry Pratchett talking on where he got his

ideas contained in his stories. He was very amusing, and learned that most

Pagans are sci-fi fans, Star Trek fans in particular, much to his surprise.

There were many more speakers, all of whom I would have liked to have heard,

but you can fit only so much into one day. There were also workshops, but I

didn't get to any of them. We did go to a harp performance which was

beautiful.

 

The evening entertainment was good. It was in two halls but because

everything was running late we didn't get to see all we wanted to. We saw a

few numbers by a pop-punk band and missed the heavy goth band and Inkubus

Sukubus unfortunately. We did see part of the medieval mjusicians, and all

of Medieval Babes.

 

Maybe Alex can also let you know what she saw there.

 

I guess I am lucky where I work. On my floor there are three witches - all

out of the broom closet.

 

BB

Jo

[Guest guest]

Hi Anouk,

 

oh well, they will grow up to be well versed in the different

mythologies then :-) My mother-in-law is terrified of getting the

'wrong' books for my little one although I have told her that I am

quite happy (and in fact want) her to learn about Bible stories as they

are so much part of Western culture. I think that kids are very open to

diversity :-)

 

BB

AlexOn 10/11/05, Anouk Sickler <zurumato wrote:

 

Hi Alex,

 

Thanks, it sounds interesting.

 

last year for christmas, my two little boys, got Pagan stuff from my

sister inlaw,

 

" a pagan childs coloring book " , something like " winter solstice "

books and

little pagan dolls, and earth is our mother books.

 

They also got from her dad, who lives in Texas and is a total

christian republican, a Jesus, playmobile set, my first bibles,

revelations and john baseball caps.

 

you get the picture, they are confused!

[Guest guest]

Oh My Goddess, he is the chap who wears a dressing gown!!! I loathe

him!!! Cringe, cringe, cringe! Erm, to each their own but it's hard to

say you are a Pagan (and not have others giggle) when that's the image

some people have in the UK, thanks to the media and him :-)

 

BB

AlexOn 11/11/05, heartwerk <jo.heartwork wrote:

 

Hi Peter

 

LOL - That's the chap. Just like Gilderoy, but not quite such a nice

smile :-)

 

BB

Jo

 

, " Peter " <metalscarab@g...> wrote:

>

> Hi Jo

>

> > There is one witch who most Pagans cringe at - he appears on telly

> > whenever he can - but I've forgotten his name - Peter (K) remind me?

>

> Kevin Carlyon, aka Gilderoy Lockhart :-)

>

> BB

> Peter

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Hi Alex

 

Were you jealous of all the gowns and cloaks? :-) I was wondering why the very young people there were wearing goth-type witch clothes with brightly coloured striped tights - any ideas?

 

Jo

 

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Alex Iantaffi

Friday, November 11, 2005 7:21 PM

Re: Re: witches

Hi there :-)I shared some of Jo's experiences at Witchfest but also saw Kate West, who is a great speaker, and went to two workshops with Tam Campbell, who was really brilliant. One was on Moving Magic and was all about spellwork and charging it in a fun way. I took away some ideas to do both with my community and also with my daughter when she is a little older. The other was on Calling the Gods. I thought it wasn't quite as good as the first one but I think it was because it had to be fairly basic and he had to change the format (from workshop to talk) at the last minute due to the nature of the room and the seating arrangements. I managed to see only half of the Mediaeval Babes as I was basically falling asleep by the evening but enjoyed what I saw very much! It was a really lovely and quite worthwhile day. If I go next year, I am dressing up though as I had clothes-envy:-)BBAlex

On 10/11/05, jo <jo.heartwork wrote:

Hi NikkiThe Witchfest was really good. We went to talks on John Dee by DavidRankine (I think Peter disagreed with a lot of what he said), David Wells onhis spiritual path and techniques. David is a psychic/astrologer, and ledus (the audience) in a short meditation/visualisation, which was verypowerful. We went to a talk by Ronald Hutton on Wicca and Druidry, coveringthe history and present time - likenesses and differences, a talk by anAmerican chap - I think his name was James Bennett. He did a dramaticstorytelling type talk on Gilgamesh and Enkidu, which I enjoyed, but Colinand Peter didn't. We also heard Terry Pratchett talking on where he got hisideas contained in his stories. He was very amusing, and learned that mostPagans are sci-fi fans, Star Trek fans in particular, much to his surprise.There were many more speakers, all of whom I would have liked to have heard,but you can fit only so much into one day. There were also workshops, but Ididn't get to any of them. We did go to a harp performance which wasbeautiful.The evening entertainment was good. It was in two halls but becauseeverything was running late we didn't get to see all we wanted to. We saw afew numbers by a pop-punk band and missed the heavy goth band and InkubusSukubus unfortunately. We did see part of the medieval mjusicians, and allof Medieval Babes.Maybe Alex can also let you know what she saw there.I guess I am lucky where I work. On my floor there are three witches - allout of the broom closet.BBJo

[Guest guest]

He is! He is way over the top, and because of this gets on the telly at any opportunity.

 

Jo

 

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Alex Iantaffi

Friday, November 11, 2005 7:35 PM

Re: Re: witches

Oh My Goddess, he is the chap who wears a dressing gown!!! I loathe him!!! Cringe, cringe, cringe! Erm, to each their own but it's hard to say you are a Pagan (and not have others giggle) when that's the image some people have in the UK, thanks to the media and him :-)BBAlex

On 11/11/05, heartwerk <jo.heartwork wrote:

Hi PeterLOL - That's the chap. Just like Gilderoy, but not quite such a nicesmile :-)BBJo , "Peter" <metalscarab@g...> wrote:>> Hi Jo> > > There is one witch who most Pagans cringe at - he appears on telly> > whenever he can - but I've forgotten his name - Peter (K) remind me?> > Kevin Carlyon, aka Gilderoy Lockhart :-)> > BB> Peter>To send an email to -