witches

[Guest guest]

I don't understand what is the purpose of being a witch. what work do

people do as a " Witch "

my sister in law calls herself witch, wanting legitimacy but I just

don't get it.

It's not like spells work. or do they?

 

people lost their lives because of being accused of this.

I don't mean to be disrespectful, but to me to when an adult calls

themselves a witch it seems so fairytale.. kinda like saying that i am

an elf or something.

 

I wonder if some witches are just normal people trying to sound cool

or interesting?

 

 

 

 

>

>

> LOL - the good witch on the Wizard of Oz!

> *sly smile*

>

> BB

> Nikki

>

[Guest guest]

You don't believe in fairies :-)?

 

Jo

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" Anouk Sickler " <zurumato

 

Thursday, November 10, 2005 5:46 AM

witches

 

 

>

> I don't understand what is the purpose of being a witch. what work do

> people do as a " Witch "

> my sister in law calls herself witch, wanting legitimacy but I just

> don't get it.

> It's not like spells work. or do they?

>

> people lost their lives because of being accused of this.

> I don't mean to be disrespectful, but to me to when an adult calls

> themselves a witch it seems so fairytale.. kinda like saying that i am

> an elf or something.

>

> I wonder if some witches are just normal people trying to sound cool

> or interesting?

>

>

>

>

> >

> >

> > LOL - the good witch on the Wizard of Oz!

> > *sly smile*

> >

> > BB

> > Nikki

> >

>

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[Guest guest]

It depends what you think a witch is I suppose. There are many differing

layers of experience. Some people don't believe in remote viewing, but I

know someone who was employed by the British Government as a remote viewer.

Remote viewing is something I have not yet experienced, but psychometry,

telepathy and precognitive dreams are things I have and do experience. Some

people do not see auras. I see auras - Peter hears auras. We are all

different. Most people closedown too much to allow themselves to be what I

consider to be 'whole' or awake.

 

As Yoda implied - you have to believe in it.

 

Jo

 

 

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" Anouk Sickler " <zurumato

 

Thursday, November 10, 2005 5:46 AM

witches

 

 

>

> I don't understand what is the purpose of being a witch. what work do

> people do as a " Witch "

> my sister in law calls herself witch, wanting legitimacy but I just

> don't get it.

> It's not like spells work. or do they?

>

> people lost their lives because of being accused of this.

> I don't mean to be disrespectful, but to me to when an adult calls

> themselves a witch it seems so fairytale.. kinda like saying that i am

> an elf or something.

>

> I wonder if some witches are just normal people trying to sound cool

> or interesting?

>

>

>

>

> >

> >

> > LOL - the good witch on the Wizard of Oz!

> > *sly smile*

> >

> > BB

> > Nikki

> >

>

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>

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Hi Anouk

 

I won't go too far into this, because I don't like to discuss

religion much. But like any religion, Wiccan has many different

faces depending on the follower. Different beliefs, rituals, ideals

and people.

 

For most in a Wiccan religion, they believe in doing good for the

world and helping others above all to put it in a round about way.

We believe to do harm against another will only bring harm back to

you three-fold.

 

The " witches " you are thinking of referring back to the Salem trials

were viewed upon as evil. Most witches are nowhere near that.

 

Spells, incatations, rituals et. all can and do work. But like

anything in life you must also work for it. Quick example, you

cannot perform a ritual to pass a History test and expect not to

study for it. You must also do the work.

 

Yes, witches do exist. But most Wiccan do not readily pronounce

themselves so nor do they care for the legitimacy your sister

craves. We are mostly a private bunch and actually tend not to

discuss our ways. There is still too much persacution and wrong

ideas out there. We simply keep to ourselves and do what good we can.

 

Nikki

 

, " Anouk Sickler " <zurumato@e...>

wrote:

>

>

> I don't understand what is the purpose of being a witch. what

work do

> people do as a " Witch "

> my sister in law calls herself witch, wanting legitimacy but I just

> don't get it.

> It's not like spells work. or do they?

>

> people lost their lives because of being accused of this.

> I don't mean to be disrespectful, but to me to when an adult calls

> themselves a witch it seems so fairytale.. kinda like saying that

i am

> an elf or something.

>

> I wonder if some witches are just normal people trying to sound

cool

> or interesting?

[Guest guest]

Hi Nikki

 

Luckily it is different here - hence the Witchfest at the weekend :-)

 

BB

Jo

 

, " earthstrm " <nikkimack@m...> wrote:

>

> Hi Anouk

>

 

> Yes, witches do exist. But most Wiccan do not readily pronounce

> themselves so nor do they care for the legitimacy your sister

> craves. We are mostly a private bunch and actually tend not to

> discuss our ways. There is still too much persacution and wrong

> ideas out there. We simply keep to ourselves and do what good we can.

>

> Nikki

>

> , " Anouk Sickler " <zurumato@e...>

> wrote:

> >

> >

> > I don't understand what is the purpose of being a witch. what

> work do

> > people do as a " Witch "

> > my sister in law calls herself witch, wanting legitimacy but I just

> > don't get it.

> > It's not like spells work. or do they?

> >

> > people lost their lives because of being accused of this.

> > I don't mean to be disrespectful, but to me to when an adult calls

> > themselves a witch it seems so fairytale.. kinda like saying that

> i am

> > an elf or something.

> >

> > I wonder if some witches are just normal people trying to sound

> cool

> > or interesting?

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Jo

 

That sounds like a wonderful time! Please do let us know about it.

 

We do have some openness here, but not much.

 

Many people still think of withces as Anouk put it, fairytales.

Which is actually ok with me.

 

BB

Nikki

 

, " heartwerk " <jo.heartwork@g...>

wrote:

>

> Hi Nikki

>

> Luckily it is different here - hence the Witchfest at the

weekend :-)

>

> BB

> Jo

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Nikki

 

The Witchfest was really good. We went to talks on John Dee by David

Rankine (I think Peter disagreed with a lot of what he said), David Wells on

his spiritual path and techniques. David is a psychic/astrologer, and led

us (the audience) in a short meditation/visualisation, which was very

powerful. We went to a talk by Ronald Hutton on Wicca and Druidry, covering

the history and present time - likenesses and differences, a talk by an

American chap - I think his name was James Bennett. He did a dramatic

storytelling type talk on Gilgamesh and Enkidu, which I enjoyed, but Colin

and Peter didn't. We also heard Terry Pratchett talking on where he got his

ideas contained in his stories. He was very amusing, and learned that most

Pagans are sci-fi fans, Star Trek fans in particular, much to his surprise.

There were many more speakers, all of whom I would have liked to have heard,

but you can fit only so much into one day. There were also workshops, but I

didn't get to any of them. We did go to a harp performance which was

beautiful.

 

The evening entertainment was good. It was in two halls but because

everything was running late we didn't get to see all we wanted to. We saw a

few numbers by a pop-punk band and missed the heavy goth band and Inkubus

Sukubus unfortunately. We did see part of the medieval mjusicians, and all

of Medieval Babes.

 

Maybe Alex can also let you know what she saw there.

 

I guess I am lucky where I work. On my floor there are three witches - all

out of the broom closet.

 

BB

Jo

-

" earthstrm " <nikkimack

 

Thursday, November 10, 2005 1:55 PM

Re: witches

 

 

> Hi Jo

>

> That sounds like a wonderful time! Please do let us know about it.

>

> We do have some openness here, but not much.

>

> Many people still think of withces as Anouk put it, fairytales.

> Which is actually ok with me.

>

> BB

> Nikki

>

> , " heartwerk " <jo.heartwork@g...>

> wrote:

> >

> > Hi Nikki

> >

> > Luckily it is different here - hence the Witchfest at the

> weekend :-)

> >

> > BB

> > Jo

> >

>

>

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[Guest guest]

hi jo,

 

i want to.

 

 

i have lost the webpage, but there is a work at home mom

who does tiny little letters for children.

 

the letters arrive in the mail and the parent is supposed to scatter

these letters written in tiny paper with tiny ink around the garden.

 

the child is supposed to believe that the letters where left by

fairies and that there are fairies in his/her garden.

 

 

, " jo " <jo.heartwork@g...> wrote:

>

> You don't believe in fairies :-)?

>

> Jo

> -

> " Anouk Sickler " <zurumato@e...>

>

> Thursday, November 10, 2005 5:46 AM

> witches

>

>

[Guest guest]

hi jo,

 

yes I have to open up more. I grew up in a very cynical place.

 

not too many spiritual people to say the least. by the time I was 14,

i too was yelling at people on the streets and subway.

 

" hey buddy ya tryin to kill me or somthin!!!

 

" up yours " jackass!

 

" lady you need a shrink " and these are the polite ones.

 

and so on and so forth. now that I am living more among nature, I am

starting to open up to more " earthly things " .

 

I do like some witch art, that I have seen at my sister in laws house.

 

Does anyone know the name of this art?

 

it is usually a woman in a forest with lots of moonlight.

 

 

 

 

 

, " jo " <jo.heartwork@g...> wrote:

>

> It depends what you think a witch is I suppose. There are many

differing

> layers of experience. Some people don't believe in remote viewing,

but I

> know someone who was employed by the British Government as a remote

viewer.

>

[Guest guest]

hi nikki,

 

the person who married me was witch, had and Indian lesbian partner

who did yoga positions, they lived in the woods of woodstock ny,

mother in law planned everything.

 

There are also some mommies, at another group, they do house blessings

when someone moves into a new house, i thought that was cool, but

wasn't sure if those things worked or not.

 

when i was a kid, my aunt would bring me over to Haiti, so that some

witch doctors could perform some (strange, i thought) rituals on me,

whenever I was sick.

 

I am reading Emerson his theory of " Nature " and it is really opening

my eyes to different ways of looking at the world.

 

 

refering to the salem witch trials, I have read the historical

accounts and I am shocked it is scary at how some communities

CAN condemed and KIll someone for being different.

 

Cotton Mather, Samuel Sewall among others responsible for these

trials and there is some evidence, that later in their life, they

had remorse.

 

 

 

 

, " earthstrm " <nikkimack@m...> wrote:

>

> Hi Anouk

>

> I won't go too far into this, because I don't like to discuss

> religion much. But like any religion, Wiccan has many different

> faces depending on the follower. Different beliefs, rituals, ideals

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Alex,

 

Thanks, it sounds interesting.

 

last year for christmas, my two little boys, got Pagan stuff from my

sister inlaw,

 

" a pagan childs coloring book " , something like " winter solstice "

books and

little pagan dolls, and earth is our mother books.

 

They also got from her dad, who lives in Texas and is a total

christian republican, a Jesus, playmobile set, my first bibles,

revelations and john baseball caps.

 

you get the picture, they are confused!

 

 

 

 

, Alex Iantaffi <alex.iantaffi@g...> wrote:

>

> Hi Anouk,

>

> well, I agree with everything that Nikki and Jo said. I would add though

> that not all witches are Wiccan. I am a witch but not a Wiccan as such,

[Guest guest]

The harp

it is rare to hear someone play it.

isn't a very popular instrument, it is like going back in time.

 

 

It always amazes me the level of acceptance that England seems to have

when it comes to people that are non-conforming or have alterntive

lifestyle,

like witches for instance, would have a harder time here, of course

it depends on the job.

 

 

 

> didn't get to any of them. We did go to a harp performance which was

> beautiful.

> >

> I guess I am lucky where I work. On my floor there are three

witches - all

> out of the broom closet.

>

[Guest guest]

how is a being a witch any different from being a catholic or a jew or a

episcopalian or a suffi muslim er a buddhist er a hindu er...

ya know wot i mean...

belief is belief is belief....

does magic work...well..i'll answer that with another question..does prayer

work?

 

and, ppl throughout history have been persecuted and killed for their beliefs...

be that thru witchcraft, judism, muslims, a billion x-tian sects, etc and so

forth...

 

 

Anouk Sickler <zurumato

Nov 9, 2005 9:46 PM

 

witches

 

 

I don't understand what is the purpose of being a witch. what work do

people do as a " Witch "

my sister in law calls herself witch, wanting legitimacy but I just

don't get it.

It's not like spells work. or do they?

 

people lost their lives because of being accused of this.

I don't mean to be disrespectful, but to me to when an adult calls

themselves a witch it seems so fairytale.. kinda like saying that i am

an elf or something.

 

I wonder if some witches are just normal people trying to sound cool

or interesting?

 

 

 

 

>

>

> LOL - the good witch on the Wizard of Oz!

> *sly smile*

>

> BB

> Nikki

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

michele, my friend who was the total buffy fanatic, played the harp..

dang thing took up have my living room when she was my room mate....

 

 

Anouk Sickler <zurumato

Nov 10, 2005 9:06 AM

 

Re: witches

 

The harp

it is rare to hear someone play it.

isn't a very popular instrument, it is like going back in time.

 

 

It always amazes me the level of acceptance that England seems to have

when it comes to people that are non-conforming or have alterntive

lifestyle,

like witches for instance, would have a harder time here, of course

it depends on the job.

 

 

 

> didn't get to any of them. We did go to a harp performance which was

> beautiful.

> >

> I guess I am lucky where I work. On my floor there are three

witches - all

> out of the broom closet.

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Hi Anouk

 

> I don't understand what is the purpose of being a witch. what work do

> people do as a " Witch "

> my sister in law calls herself witch, wanting legitimacy but I just

> don't get it.

> It's not like spells work. or do they?

 

Depends what you're trying to do... if you want to create world peace by

tomorrow, then there's a pretty hefty chance that your spell won't work...

there's just too many other people working against it. If you want to heal

people, then they are usually pretty effective in my experience. Scientific

research has shown that praying has a distinct effect in curing illness, and

to witches, " praying " is just an indirect form of spell-work. Basically, the

difference between witchcraft and praying is that praying asks someone else

to change things on your behalf, and spellwork is at the direct influence of

the individual.

 

> people lost their lives because of being accused of this.

> I don't mean to be disrespectful, but to me to when an adult calls

> themselves a witch it seems so fairytale.. kinda like saying that i am

> an elf or something.

> I wonder if some witches are just normal people trying to sound cool

> or interesting?

 

Of course there are some people who call themselves witches to sound cool.

Just as there are some people who call themselves Christian or Buddhist, and

don't practice any of the important aspects of those ways of life!

 

Personally, I dislike the use of the term " witch " - it seems very silly that

when modern witchcraft was created in the 1940s, that they decided to call

it witchcraft. Up until then, the term " witch " was applied to those who did

harm - their counterparts in medieval times who did good were referred to as

cunning-folk, which I think would have been a far more sensible term to

adopt!

 

BB

Peter

[Guest guest]

I disagree, all beliefs are not the same.

 

I know that you live in your sheltered sanctuary of san francisco,

but for the average joe on the street in america,

a witch is a fictional character,

a common theme in childrens books.

 

I do respect alex, and nikki and Jo. They seem genuinely interested in

the wiccan religion and its traditions.

but I do not respect

posers,

you know, there must be alot of those in california.

 

In college and workplace, I have come across people who say that they

are something just to be cool, but are really just shallow posers I do

not respect that. " yeah, i wear black, I'm a warlock, he he, i'm

interesting.

 

Have you been to Woodstock, NY ? too many people call themselves

witches or vampires or whatever just to make themselves interesting.

my attitude is " yeah, sure you are "

 

 

I had a boyfriend once who said that he was a vampire. He did all

these rituals and I was like " oh please "

when I got to know him, he turned out to be boring and normal.

 

at the mommies group that I belong to, every joe dick and harry is now

calling themselves a witch. without really being able to define

what it is they believe in.

 

I find it disrespectful that some people are treating being a

Witches lightly as a joke, when a lot of women, men and children

died for being accused of having that title.

 

People in organized religions are rarely posers just to be cool.

 

prayer and magic are not the same.

 

 

 

, fraggle <EBbrewpunx@e...> wrote:

>

> how is a being a witch any different from being a catholic or a jew

or a episcopalian or a suffi muslim er a buddhist er a hindu er...

> ya know wot i mean...

> belief is belief is belief....

> does magic work...well..i'll answer that with another question..does

prayer work?

[Guest guest]

I reckon normal non-religious toys and books would be best.

 

BB

Jo

-

" Anouk Sickler " <zurumato

 

Thursday, November 10, 2005 5:00 PM

Re: witches

 

 

> Hi Alex,

>

> Thanks, it sounds interesting.

>

> last year for christmas, my two little boys, got Pagan stuff from my

> sister inlaw,

>

> " a pagan childs coloring book " , something like " winter solstice "

> books and

> little pagan dolls, and earth is our mother books.

>

> They also got from her dad, who lives in Texas and is a total

> christian republican, a Jesus, playmobile set, my first bibles,

> revelations and john baseball caps.

>

> you get the picture, they are confused!

>

>

>

>

> , Alex Iantaffi <alex.iantaffi@g...> wrote:

> >

> > Hi Anouk,

> >

> > well, I agree with everything that Nikki and Jo said. I would add though

> > that not all witches are Wiccan. I am a witch but not a Wiccan as such,

>

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>

[Guest guest]

ah..yer taking my point wrong anouk

to me, one belief system is the same as another belief system...

its all a personal thing...

if you want to believe in fairies, go fer it...if you want to run sky clad thru

a grove of trees..hey..more power to ya..

if takin some wafer makes you believe you aretakin the son of yer god into yer

body..hey, wotever makes you happy...

how do you know i don't consider it ALL make believe?

 

some ppl will always hook onto to something because its popular, or cool, or

different, or wotever...

there are definately ppl out there who join the more fringey parts of major

religions because its popular(at least in the communities they reside in)

i have a good friend who is now uber jewish because it makes him stand out in a

crowd.....

 

 

and why isn't magic the same as prayer?

 

 

Anouk Sickler <zurumato

Nov 10, 2005 10:27 AM

 

Re: witches

 

I disagree, all beliefs are not the same.

 

I know that you live in your sheltered sanctuary of san francisco,

but for the average joe on the street in america,

a witch is a fictional character,

a common theme in childrens books.

 

I do respect alex, and nikki and Jo. They seem genuinely interested in

the wiccan religion and its traditions.

but I do not respect

posers,

you know, there must be alot of those in california.

 

In college and workplace, I have come across people who say that they

are something just to be cool, but are really just shallow posers I do

not respect that. " yeah, i wear black, I'm a warlock, he he, i'm

interesting.

 

Have you been to Woodstock, NY ? too many people call themselves

witches or vampires or whatever just to make themselves interesting.

my attitude is " yeah, sure you are "

 

 

I had a boyfriend once who said that he was a vampire. He did all

these rituals and I was like " oh please "

when I got to know him, he turned out to be boring and normal.

 

at the mommies group that I belong to, every joe dick and harry is now

calling themselves a witch. without really being able to define

what it is they believe in.

 

I find it disrespectful that some people are treating being a

Witches lightly as a joke, when a lot of women, men and children

died for being accused of having that title.

 

People in organized religions are rarely posers just to be cool.

 

prayer and magic are not the same.

 

 

 

, fraggle <EBbrewpunx@e...> wrote:

>

> how is a being a witch any different from being a catholic or a jew

or a episcopalian or a suffi muslim er a buddhist er a hindu er...

> ya know wot i mean...

> belief is belief is belief....

> does magic work...well..i'll answer that with another question..does

prayer work?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

from meriam websters

magic. 1 a : the use of means (as charms or spells) believed to have

supernatural power over natural forces b : magic rites or incantations

2 a : an extraordinary power or influence seemingly from a supernatural source

 

prayer. 1 a (1) : an address (as a petition) to God or a god in word or thought

<said a prayer for the success of the voyage> (2) : a set order of words used in

praying b : an earnest request or wish

2 : the act or practice of praying to God or a god <kneeling in prayer>

 

now if god(or a god) isn't a supernatural force, i don't know wot is...

 

imo, prayer is just another form of magic...

 

 

Anouk Sickler <zurumato

Nov 10, 2005 10:27 AM

 

Re: witches

 

I disagree, all beliefs are not the same.

 

I know that you live in your sheltered sanctuary of san francisco,

but for the average joe on the street in america,

a witch is a fictional character,

a common theme in childrens books.

 

I do respect alex, and nikki and Jo. They seem genuinely interested in

the wiccan religion and its traditions.

but I do not respect

posers,

you know, there must be alot of those in california.

 

In college and workplace, I have come across people who say that they

are something just to be cool, but are really just shallow posers I do

not respect that. " yeah, i wear black, I'm a warlock, he he, i'm

interesting.

 

Have you been to Woodstock, NY ? too many people call themselves

witches or vampires or whatever just to make themselves interesting.

my attitude is " yeah, sure you are "

 

 

I had a boyfriend once who said that he was a vampire. He did all

these rituals and I was like " oh please "

when I got to know him, he turned out to be boring and normal.

 

at the mommies group that I belong to, every joe dick and harry is now

calling themselves a witch. without really being able to define

what it is they believe in.

 

I find it disrespectful that some people are treating being a

Witches lightly as a joke, when a lot of women, men and children

died for being accused of having that title.

 

People in organized religions are rarely posers just to be cool.

 

prayer and magic are not the same.

 

 

 

, fraggle <EBbrewpunx@e...> wrote:

>

> how is a being a witch any different from being a catholic or a jew

or a episcopalian or a suffi muslim er a buddhist er a hindu er...

> ya know wot i mean...

> belief is belief is belief....

> does magic work...well..i'll answer that with another question..does

prayer work?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

To send an email to -

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Anouk

 

> People in organized religions are rarely posers just to be cool.

 

Really? You've never met someone who calls themself a Christian and behaves

nothing like one? Have you heard of George Bush????

 

> prayer and magic are not the same.

 

In what ways are they different? The only difference I can see is that magic

cuts out the middle-man.

 

BB

Peter

[Guest guest]

Hi Anouk

 

 

> I disagree, all beliefs are not the same.

~~~I think that Fraggle was saying that it is faith that makes all religions

the same.

 

> I do respect alex, and nikki and Jo. They seem genuinely interested in

> the wiccan religion and its traditions.

> but I do not respect

> posers,

> you know, there must be alot of those in california.

~~~ I am an eclectic Pagan, more Druid than anything, and only a little

Wiccan.

 

> In college and workplace, I have come across people who say that they

> are something just to be cool, but are really just shallow posers I do

> not respect that. " yeah, i wear black, I'm a warlock, he he, i'm

> interesting.

~~~ I expect a lot of people do it to look cool. At Witchfest I think there

were some like that. A lot of the time people wear black, or capes and

gowns to identify themselves, just as I wear heavy metal t-shirts when I go

to concerts. It's a way of saying that you are interested in something.

>

> Have you been to Woodstock, NY ? too many people call themselves

> witches or vampires or whatever just to make themselves interesting.

> my attitude is " yeah, sure you are "

~~~What do you think a person would need to be/do to be a witch? There are

vampires - I was chatting to some in a pub one night. They like to drink

blood so cut themselves for the other to drink - or something like that.

Strange but true.

>

> at the mommies group that I belong to, every joe dick and harry is now

> calling themselves a witch. without really being able to define

> what it is they believe in.

Witchcraft is not a religion. Wicca is a religion and most Wiccans are

witches, but all witches are not Wiccan.

 

> People in organized religions are rarely posers just to be cool.

I am sure that most do it because of their faith, but in my experience some

of them do it for social reasons, and to belong to a group.

>

> prayer and magic are not the same.

Basically, they are the same, but prayer is a submissive sort of magic where

you don't assume any power and ask someone else to do something.

 

Jo

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> , fraggle <EBbrewpunx@e...> wrote:

> >

> > how is a being a witch any different from being a catholic or a jew

> or a episcopalian or a suffi muslim er a buddhist er a hindu er...

> > ya know wot i mean...

> > belief is belief is belief....

> > does magic work...well..i'll answer that with another question..does

> prayer work?

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The Valley Vegan..........jo <jo.heartwork wrote:

You don't believe in fairies :-)?Jo-"Anouk Sickler" Thursday, November 10, 2005 5:46 AM witches>> I don't understand what is the purpose of being a witch. what work do> people do as a "Witch"> my sister in law calls herself witch, wanting legitimacy but I just> don't get it.> It's not like spells work. or do they?>> people lost their lives because of being accused of this.> I don't mean to be disrespectful, but to me to when an adult calls> themselves a witch it seems so fairytale.. kinda like saying that i am> an elf or something.>> I wonder if some witches are just normal people trying to sound cool> or

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Depends, some witches dont have business cards printed advertising it, and are just more in tune with nature. Then there are the attention seeking ones who try and go out of their way to appear on tele/radio/papers etc.

 

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( where`s the Pengam Princess?)Anouk Sickler <zurumato wrote:

I don't understand what is the purpose of being a witch. what work do people do as a "Witch"my sister in law calls herself witch, wanting legitimacy but I justdon't get it.It's not like spells work. or do they?people lost their lives because of being accused of this. I don't mean to be disrespectful, but to me to when an adult callsthemselves a witch it seems so fairytale.. kinda like saying that i aman elf or something. I wonder if some witches are just normal people trying to sound coolor interesting?> > > LOL - the good witch on the Wizard of Oz!> *sly smile*> > BB> Nikki >

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Hi Peter

 

I agree with you about the term 'witch'. When you do say to someone that

you are a witch, they say - 'ah, a white witch'!

 

BB

Jo

 

> Personally, I dislike the use of the term " witch " - it seems very silly

that

> when modern witchcraft was created in the 1940s, that they decided to call

> it witchcraft. Up until then, the term " witch " was applied to those who

did

> harm - their counterparts in medieval times who did good were referred to

as

> cunning-folk, which I think would have been a far more sensible term to

> adopt!

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> BB

> Peter

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hmmmm

yeah

but not fer all magic i think...

i mean..there are a number of magical traditions were you ask the intervention

of spirits, loa, nature gods, etc and so forth...dependin on wot path you

take....

 

 

Peter <metalscarab

Nov 10, 2005 10:25 AM

 

Re: witches

 

Basically, the

difference between witchcraft and praying is that praying asks someone else

to change things on your behalf, and spellwork is at the direct influence of

the individual.

 

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" Just as nightfall does not come at once, neither

does oppression. In both instances there is a twilight. And it is in such

twilight

that we all must be aware of change in the air - however slight - lest we become

unwilling victims of the darkness. "

William O. Douglas