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It is only skin deep, ...look for the inner beauty.

 

The Valley Vegan.............

 

Cyn hacred a phechod As ugly as sin heartwerk <jo.heartwork wrote:

Hi JonnieIt certainly couldn't be worth all that trouble though, and beautyisn't everything.Jo , Jonnie Hellenswrote:> I think it was last year we watched a show called The Swan, wherethese women went through life transformation which included losingweight, getting in shape, councelling and cosmetic surgery, then theyhad a beauty contest in the end. The team overseeing it choseeverything to be done, but the person had the final say so. They didall the cosmetic surgery at once, they recovered some and started theexcercise programs. Most of these poor people had tummy tucks, lipoand things done to their face and were in so much pain that theirmorale was really in the toilet (like it was all that high to beginwith.) and I felt so bad for them. In the end, they

were all reallyglad they did it and looked gorgious. I don't think I could do itthough, even if I had the money!> > earthstrm wrote:I don't think that I would. I knowthere are a few little things I > wish were different like baby stretch marks for instance, but don't > think it would be worth what you go through.> > Nikki> > , "Anouk Sickler" > wrote:> > the only cosmetic suregery I would consider,> > would be to remove, tiny little spider veins> > behind my knee. but I haven't bothered yet,> > cause I haven't the money.> > > > would you guys consider cosmetic surgery?> > > > i realize its a personal choice.> > > > > > > To send an email to - > > >

>

[Guest guest]

What was nice about the show is that they councelled the women to help them to feel better about themselves. Most of the women then seemed to have a lot more motivation to take care of themselves too.peter hurd <swpgh01 wrote:

 

It is only skin deep, ...look for the inner beauty.

 

The Valley Vegan.............

 

Cyn hacred a phechod As ugly as sin heartwerk <jo.heartwork wrote:

Hi JonnieIt certainly couldn't be worth all that trouble though, and beautyisn't everything.Jo , Jonnie Hellenswrote:> I think it was last year we watched a show called The Swan, wherethese women went through life transformation which included losingweight, getting in shape, councelling and cosmetic surgery, then theyhad a beauty contest in the end. The team overseeing it choseeverything to be done, but the person had the final say so. They didall the cosmetic surgery at once, they recovered some and started theexcercise programs. Most of these poor people had tummy tucks, lipoand things done to their face and were in so much pain that theirmorale was really in the toilet (like it was all that high to beginwith.) and I felt so bad for them. In the end, they

were all reallyglad they did it and looked gorgious. I don't think I could do itthough, even if I had the money!> > earthstrm wrote:I don't think that I would. I knowthere are a few little things I > wish were different like baby stretch marks for instance, but don't > think it would be worth what you go through.> > Nikki> > , "Anouk Sickler" > wrote:> > the only cosmetic suregery I would consider,> > would be to remove, tiny little spider veins> > behind my knee. but I haven't bothered yet,> > cause I haven't the money.> > > > would you guys consider cosmetic surgery?> > > > i realize its a personal choice.> > > > > > > To send an email to - > > >

>

[Guest guest]

Surely if they felt better about themselves they wouldn't have felt

the need to alter their bodies/faces. If Michael Jackson had felt

better about himself he would still be a good-looking chap instead of

a freak.

 

Jo

 

, Jonnie Hellens

<jonnie_hellens> wrote:

> What was nice about the show is that they councelled the women to

help them to feel better about themselves. Most of the women then

seemed to have a lot more motivation to take care of themselves too.

>

> peter hurd <swpgh01@t...> wrote:It is only skin deep, ...look for

the inner beauty.

>

> The Valley Vegan.............

>

> Cyn hacred a phechod As ugly as sin

>

>

> heartwerk <jo.heartwork@g...> wrote:

> Hi Jonnie

>

> It certainly couldn't be worth all that trouble though, and beauty

> isn't everything.

>

> Jo

>

> , Jonnie Hellens

> wrote:

> > I think it was last year we watched a show called The Swan, where

> these women went through life transformation which included losing

> weight, getting in shape, councelling and cosmetic surgery, then

they

> had a beauty contest in the end. The team overseeing it chose

> everything to be done, but the person had the final say so. They did

> all the cosmetic surgery at once, they recovered some and started

the

> excercise programs. Most of these poor people had tummy tucks, lipo

> and things done to their face and were in so much pain that their

> morale was really in the toilet (like it was all that high to begin

> with.) and I felt so bad for them. In the end, they were all really

> glad they did it and looked gorgious. I don't think I could do it

> though, even if I had the money!

> >

> > earthstrm wrote:I don't think that I would. I know

> there are a few little things I

> > wish were different like baby stretch marks for instance, but

don't

> > think it would be worth what you go through.

> >

> > Nikki

> >

> > , " Anouk Sickler "

> > wrote:

> > > the only cosmetic suregery I would consider,

> > > would be to remove, tiny little spider veins

> > > behind my knee. but I haven't bothered yet,

> > > cause I haven't the money.

> > >

> > > would you guys consider cosmetic surgery?

> > >

> > > i realize its a personal choice.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > To send an email to -

 

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I agree it has to do with self esteem. MJ seems extremely insecure.

some of the ugliest people have the nicest personality.

My husband happens to be good looking (i think) but If

I really liked someone, and their personality, I would've

married them anyway, regardless of wheter they have big ears or wahtever.

 

, " heartwerk " <jo.heartwork@g...> wrote:

> Surely if they felt better about themselves they wouldn't have felt

> the need to alter their bodies/faces. If Michael Jackson had felt

> better about himself he would still be a good-looking chap instead of

> a freak.

>

> Jo

>

> , Jonnie Hellens

> <jonnie_hellens> wrote:

> > What was nice about the show is that they councelled the women to

> help them to feel better about themselves. Most of the women then

> seemed to have a lot more motivation to take care of themselves too.

> >

> > peter hurd <swpgh01@t...> wrote:It is only skin deep, ...look for

> the inner beauty.

> >

> > The Valley Vegan.............

> >

> > Cyn hacred a phechod As ugly as sin

> >

> >

> > heartwerk <jo.heartwork@g...> wrote:

> > Hi Jonnie

> >

> > It certainly couldn't be worth all that trouble though, and beauty

> > isn't everything.

> >

> > Jo

> >

> > , Jonnie Hellens

> > wrote:

> > > I think it was last year we watched a show called The Swan, where

> > these women went through life transformation which included losing

> > weight, getting in shape, councelling and cosmetic surgery, then

> they

> > had a beauty contest in the end. The team overseeing it chose

> > everything to be done, but the person had the final say so. They did

> > all the cosmetic surgery at once, they recovered some and started

> the

> > excercise programs. Most of these poor people had tummy tucks, lipo

> > and things done to their face and were in so much pain that their

> > morale was really in the toilet (like it was all that high to begin

> > with.) and I felt so bad for them. In the end, they were all really

> > glad they did it and looked gorgious. I don't think I could do it

> > though, even if I had the money!

> > >

> > > earthstrm wrote:I don't think that I would. I know

> > there are a few little things I

> > > wish were different like baby stretch marks for instance, but

> don't

> > > think it would be worth what you go through.

> > >

> > > Nikki

> > >

> > > , " Anouk Sickler "

> > > wrote:

> > > > the only cosmetic suregery I would consider,

> > > > would be to remove, tiny little spider veins

> > > > behind my knee. but I haven't bothered yet,

> > > > cause I haven't the money.

> > > >

> > > > would you guys consider cosmetic surgery?

> > > >

> > > > i realize its a personal choice.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > To send an email to -

>

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Very true.

 

Jo

 

, " Anouk Sickler " <zurumato@e...>

wrote:

> I agree it has to do with self esteem. MJ seems extremely insecure.

> some of the ugliest people have the nicest personality.

> My husband happens to be good looking (i think) but If

> I really liked someone, and their personality, I would've

> married them anyway, regardless of wheter they have big ears or

wahtever.

>

> , " heartwerk " <jo.heartwork@g...>

wrote:

> > Surely if they felt better about themselves they wouldn't have

felt

> > the need to alter their bodies/faces. If Michael Jackson had

felt

> > better about himself he would still be a good-looking chap

instead of

> > a freak.

> >

> > Jo

> >

> > , Jonnie Hellens

> > <jonnie_hellens> wrote:

> > > What was nice about the show is that they councelled the women

to

> > help them to feel better about themselves. Most of the women

then

> > seemed to have a lot more motivation to take care of themselves

too.

> > >

> > > peter hurd <swpgh01@t...> wrote:It is only skin deep, ...look

for

> > the inner beauty.

> > >

> > > The Valley Vegan.............

> > >

> > > Cyn hacred a phechod As ugly as sin

> > >

> > >

> > > heartwerk <jo.heartwork@g...> wrote:

> > > Hi Jonnie

> > >

> > > It certainly couldn't be worth all that trouble though, and

beauty

> > > isn't everything.

> > >

> > > Jo

> > >

> > > , Jonnie Hellens

> > > wrote:

> > > > I think it was last year we watched a show called The Swan,

where

> > > these women went through life transformation which included

losing

> > > weight, getting in shape, councelling and cosmetic surgery,

then

> > they

> > > had a beauty contest in the end. The team overseeing it chose

> > > everything to be done, but the person had the final say so.

They did

> > > all the cosmetic surgery at once, they recovered some and

started

> > the

> > > excercise programs. Most of these poor people had tummy tucks,

lipo

> > > and things done to their face and were in so much pain that

their

> > > morale was really in the toilet (like it was all that high to

begin

> > > with.) and I felt so bad for them. In the end, they were all

really

> > > glad they did it and looked gorgious. I don't think I could do

it

> > > though, even if I had the money!

> > > >

> > > > earthstrm wrote:I don't think that I would. I know

> > > there are a few little things I

> > > > wish were different like baby stretch marks for instance, but

> > don't

> > > > think it would be worth what you go through.

> > > >

> > > > Nikki

> > > >

> > > > , " Anouk Sickler "

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > the only cosmetic suregery I would consider,

> > > > > would be to remove, tiny little spider veins

> > > > > behind my knee. but I haven't bothered yet,

> > > > > cause I haven't the money.

> > > > >

> > > > > would you guys consider cosmetic surgery?

> > > > >

> > > > > i realize its a personal choice.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > To send an email to -

> >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

I sure wish there was a follow-up show to let us know how the people did long term. I know there are a lot of people who are really self conscious and feel so ugly. These people really bloomed while on the show. The thing is that they covered all the mirrors, so the people couldn't even see themselves, and we didn't see them either when they were done, we only saw them in all the bandgaes, and yet you could see their self confidence increasing. I wonder if that was because of what people were telling them? Because of the workout routines and they could look down and see what it was doing to their body? If that were the case, perhaps they could something else to boost thier confidence? I dunno, but I do know I couldn't do it (the surgeries).heartwerk <jo.heartwork wrote:

Hi JonnieIt certainly couldn't be worth all that trouble though, and beautyisn't everything.Jo , Jonnie Hellens<jonnie_hellens> wrote:> I think it was last year we watched a show called The Swan, wherethese women went through life transformation which included losingweight, getting in shape, councelling and cosmetic surgery, then theyhad a beauty contest in the end. The team overseeing it choseeverything to be done, but the person had the final say so. They didall the cosmetic surgery at once, they recovered some and started theexcercise programs. Most of these poor people had tummy tucks, lipoand things done to their face and were in so much pain that theirmorale was really in the toilet (like it was all that high to beginwith.) and I felt so bad

for them. In the end, they were all reallyglad they did it and looked gorgious. I don't think I could do itthough, even if I had the money!> > earthstrm <nikkimack@m...> wrote:I don't think that I would. I knowthere are a few little things I > wish were different like baby stretch marks for instance, but don't > think it would be worth what you go through.> > Nikki> > , "Anouk Sickler" <zurumato@e...> > wrote:> > the only cosmetic suregery I would consider,> > would be to remove, tiny little spider veins> > behind my knee. but I haven't bothered yet,> > cause I haven't the money.> > > > would you guys consider cosmetic surgery?> > > > i realize its a personal choice.> > > > > > > To send an email to

- > > > >

[Guest guest]

i haven't commented, basically cuz i comment to much

but..somehow, the basic premise of the show REALLY bugged me

my ex use to watch it, so i use to go in the living room and read

but

i could hear it and all that

anyways...the whole concept of "lets do a billion surgeries on you because yer not up to our standards" didn't thrill me

wots wrong with being who you are?

me..i'm uglier then a 16 day old mule.....so wot..who cares?

be who you are....

 

thats just me i guess Jonnie Hellens Oct 7, 2005 4:57 PM Re: Re: Fwd: I'm new to the group and have a post in limbo - Favor

I sure wish there was a follow-up show to let us know how the people did long term. I know there are a lot of people who are really self conscious and feel so ugly. These people really bloomed while on the show. The thing is that they covered all the mirrors, so the people couldn't even see themselves, and we didn't see them either when they were done, we only saw them in all the bandgaes, and yet you could see their self confidence increasing. I wonder if that was because of what people were telling them? Because of the workout routines and they could look down and see what it was doing to their body? If that were the case, perhaps they could something else to boost thier confidence? I dunno, but I do know I couldn't do it (the surgeries).heartwerk <jo.heartwork wrote: Hi JonnieIt certainly couldn't be worth all that trouble though, and beautyisn't everything.Jo , Jonnie Hellens<jonnie_hellens> wrote:> I think it was last year we watched a show called The Swan, wherethese women went through life transformation which included losingweight, getting in shape, councelling and cosmetic surgery, then theyhad a beauty contest in the end. The team overseeing it choseeverything to be done, but the person had the final say so. They didall the cosmetic surgery at once, they recovered some and started theexcercise programs. Most of these poor people had tummy tucks, lipoand things done to their face and were in so much pain that theirmorale was really in the toilet (like it was all that high to beginwith.) and I felt so bad for them. In the end, they were all reallyglad they did it and looked gorgious. I don't think I could do itthough, even if I had the money!> > earthstrm <nikkimack@m...> wrote:I don't think that I would. I knowthere are a few little things I > wish were different like baby stretch marks for instance, but don't > think it would be worth what you go through.> > Nikki> > , "Anouk Sickler" <zurumato@e...> > wrote:> > the only cosmetic suregery I would consider,> > would be to remove, tiny little spider veins> > behind my knee. but I haven't bothered yet,> > cause I haven't the money.> > > > would you guys consider cosmetic surgery?> > > > i realize its a personal choice.> > > > > > > To send an email to - > > > >

[Guest guest]

I know! He was such a cutie before he screwed himself up!heartwerk <jo.heartwork wrote:

Surely if they felt better about themselves they wouldn't have felt the need to alter their bodies/faces. If Michael Jackson had felt better about himself he would still be a good-looking chap instead of a freak.Jo , Jonnie Hellens <jonnie_hellens> wrote:> What was nice about the show is that they councelled the women to help them to feel better about themselves. Most of the women then seemed to have a lot more motivation to take care of themselves too.> > peter hurd <swpgh01@t...> wrote:It is only skin deep, ...look for the inner beauty.> > The Valley Vegan.............> > Cyn hacred a phechod As ugly as sin > > > heartwerk <jo.heartwork@g...> wrote:> Hi Jonnie> >

It certainly couldn't be worth all that trouble though, and beauty> isn't everything.> > Jo> > , Jonnie Hellens> wrote:> > I think it was last year we watched a show called The Swan, where> these women went through life transformation which included losing> weight, getting in shape, councelling and cosmetic surgery, then they> had a beauty contest in the end. The team overseeing it chose> everything to be done, but the person had the final say so. They did> all the cosmetic surgery at once, they recovered some and started the> excercise programs. Most of these poor people had tummy tucks, lipo> and things done to their face and were in so much pain that their> morale was really in the toilet (like it was all that high to begin> with.) and I felt so bad for them. In the end, they were all really> glad they did it and looked

gorgious. I don't think I could do it> though, even if I had the money!> > > > earthstrm wrote:I don't think that I would. I know> there are a few little things I > > wish were different like baby stretch marks for instance, but don't > > think it would be worth what you go through.> > > > Nikki> > > > , "Anouk Sickler" > > wrote:> > > the only cosmetic suregery I would consider,> > > would be to remove, tiny little spider veins> > > behind my knee. but I haven't bothered yet,> > > cause I haven't the money.> > > > > > would you guys consider cosmetic surgery?> > > > > > i realize its a personal choice.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > To send an email to

- > > > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

We watch "What Not To Wear" and they do follow ups. I like the follow up shows.

 

Lynda

 

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Jonnie Hellens

Friday, October 07, 2005 4:57 PM

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I sure wish there was a follow-up show to let us know how the people did long term. I know there are a lot of people who are really self conscious and feel so ugly. These people really bloomed while on the show. The thing is that they covered all the mirrors, so the people couldn't even see themselves, and we didn't see them either when they were done, we only saw them in all the bandgaes, and yet you could see their self confidence increasing. I wonder if that was because of what people were telling them? Because of the workout routines and they could look down and see what it was doing to their body? If that were the case, perhaps they could something else to boost thier confidence? I dunno, but I do know I couldn't do it (the surgeries).

[Guest guest]

No I`m with you on that, I`m so ugly the doctor slapped my mother when I was born! but who cares. I`m sure that theres a saying ( possibly in the bible ) " If thine eye offemds thee, pluck it out". Be happy in your skin donty judge a book by its cover.

 

The Valley Vegan..............

 

Cyn falched a phaun As proud as a peacock fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote:

 

i haven't commented, basically cuz i comment to much

but..somehow, the basic premise of the show REALLY bugged me

my ex use to watch it, so i use to go in the living room and read

but

i could hear it and all that

anyways...the whole concept of "lets do a billion surgeries on you because yer not up to our standards" didn't thrill me

wots wrong with being who you are?

me..i'm uglier then a 16 day old mule.....so wot..who cares?

be who you are....

 

thats just me i guess Jonnie Hellens Oct 7, 2005 4:57 PM Re: Re: Fwd: I'm new to the group and have a post in limbo - Favor

I sure wish there was a follow-up show to let us know how the people did long term. I know there are a lot of people who are really self conscious and feel so ugly. These people really bloomed while on the show. The thing is that they covered all the mirrors, so the people couldn't even see themselves, and we didn't see them either when they were done, we only saw them in all the bandgaes, and yet you could see their self confidence increasing. I wonder if that was because of what people were telling them? Because of the workout routines and they could look down and see what it was doing to their body? If that were the case, perhaps they could something else to boost thier confidence? I dunno, but I do know I couldn't do it (the surgeries).heartwerk <jo.heartwork wrote: Hi JonnieIt certainly couldn't be worth all that trouble though, and beautyisn't everything.Jo , Jonnie Hellens<jonnie_hellens> wrote:> I think it was last year we watched a show called The Swan, wherethese women went through life transformation which included losingweight, getting in shape, councelling and cosmetic surgery, then theyhad a beauty contest in the end. The team overseeing it choseeverything to be done, but the person had the final say so. They didall the cosmetic surgery at once, they recovered some and started theexcercise programs. Most of these poor people had tummy tucks, lipoand things done to their face and were in so much pain that theirmorale was really in the toilet (like it was all that high to beginwith.) and I felt so bad

for them. In the end, they were all reallyglad they did it and looked gorgious. I don't think I could do itthough, even if I had the money!> > earthstrm <nikkimack@m...> wrote:I don't think that I would. I knowthere are a few little things I > wish were different like baby stretch marks for instance, but don't > think it would be worth what you go through.> > Nikki> > , "Anouk Sickler" <zurumato@e...> > wrote:> > the only cosmetic suregery I would consider,> > would be to remove, tiny little spider veins> > behind my knee. but I haven't bothered yet,> > cause I haven't the money.> > > > would you guys consider cosmetic surgery?> > > > i realize its a personal choice.> > > > > > > To send an email to

- > > > >

[Guest guest]

Hi Jonnie

 

What annoys me is that surgeons are allowed to make money and do unnecessary surgery on someone who is obviously suffering from some mental disorder.

 

Jo

 

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Jonnie Hellens

Saturday, October 08, 2005 1:28 AM

Re: Re: Fwd: I'm new to the group and have a post in limbo - Favor

 

I know! He was such a cutie before he screwed himself up!heartwerk <jo.heartwork wrote: Surely if they felt better about themselves they wouldn't have felt the need to alter their bodies/faces. If Michael Jackson had felt better about himself he would still be a good-looking chap instead of a freak.Jo , Jonnie Hellens <jonnie_hellens> wrote:> What was nice about the show is that they councelled the women to help them to feel better about themselves. Most of the women then seemed to have a lot more motivation to take care of themselves too.> > peter hurd <swpgh01@t...> wrote:It is only skin deep, ...look for the inner beauty.> > The Valley Vegan.............> > Cyn hacred a phechod As ugly as sin > > > heartwerk <jo.heartwork@g...> wrote:> Hi Jonnie> > It certainly couldn't be worth all that trouble though, and beauty> isn't everything.> > Jo> > , Jonnie Hellens> wrote:> > I think it was last year we watched a show called The Swan, where> these women went through life transformation which included losing> weight, getting in shape, councelling and cosmetic surgery, then they> had a beauty contest in the end. The team overseeing it chose> everything to be done, but the person had the final say so. They did> all the cosmetic surgery at once, they recovered some and started the> excercise programs. Most of these poor people had tummy tucks, lipo> and things done to their face and were in so much pain that their> morale was really in the toilet (like it was all that high to begin> with.) and I felt so bad for them. In the end, they were all really> glad they did it and looked gorgious. I don't think I could do it> though, even if I had the money!> > > > earthstrm wrote:I don't think that I would. I know> there are a few little things I > > wish were different like baby stretch marks for instance, but don't > > think it would be worth what you go through.> > > > Nikki> > > > , "Anouk Sickler" > > wrote:> > > the only cosmetic suregery I would consider,> > > would be to remove, tiny little spider veins> > > behind my knee. but I haven't bothered yet,> > > cause I haven't the money.> > > > > > would you guys consider cosmetic surgery?> > > > > > i realize its a personal choice.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > To send an email to - > > > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

I think it appealed to the people who agreed to be on the show because they believed strongly in the if... then statement. If this were this way, then everything would be perfect. Of course, that is rarely the case. I'm guessing when they went back to their old lives, everything was upside down. The way things were previously would be upside down. I'm guessing the spouses had a lot of adjustments too. I wonder how many relationships were able to stand the changes.peter hurd <swpgh01 wrote:

 

No I`m with you on that, I`m so ugly the doctor slapped my mother when I was born! but who cares. I`m sure that theres a saying ( possibly in the bible ) " If thine eye offemds thee, pluck it out". Be happy in your skin donty judge a book by its cover.

 

The Valley Vegan..............

 

Cyn falched a phaun As proud as a peacock fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote:

 

i haven't commented, basically cuz i comment to much

but..somehow, the basic premise of the show REALLY bugged me

my ex use to watch it, so i use to go in the living room and read

but

i could hear it and all that

anyways...the whole concept of "lets do a billion surgeries on you because yer not up to our standards" didn't thrill me

wots wrong with being who you are?

me..i'm uglier then a 16 day old mule.....so wot..who cares?

be who you are....

 

thats just me i guess Jonnie Hellens Oct 7, 2005 4:57 PM Re: Re: Fwd: I'm new to the group and have a post in limbo - Favor

I sure wish there was a follow-up show to let us know how the people did long term. I know there are a lot of people who are really self conscious and feel so ugly. These people really bloomed while on the show. The thing is that they covered all the mirrors, so the people couldn't even see themselves, and we didn't see them either when they were done, we only saw them in all the bandgaes, and yet you could see their self confidence increasing. I wonder if that was because of what people were telling them? Because of the workout routines and they could look down and see what it was doing to their body? If that were the case, perhaps they could something else to boost thier confidence? I dunno, but I do know I couldn't do it (the surgeries).heartwerk <jo.heartwork wrote: Hi JonnieIt certainly couldn't be worth all that trouble though, and beautyisn't everything.Jo , Jonnie Hellens<jonnie_hellens> wrote:> I think it was last year we watched a show called The Swan, wherethese women went through life transformation which included losingweight, getting in shape, councelling and cosmetic surgery, then theyhad a beauty contest in the end. The team overseeing it choseeverything to be done, but the person had the final say so. They didall the cosmetic surgery at once, they recovered some and started theexcercise programs. Most of these poor people had tummy tucks, lipoand things done to their face and were in so much pain that theirmorale was really in the toilet (like it was all that high to beginwith.) and I felt so bad

for them. In the end, they were all reallyglad they did it and looked gorgious. I don't think I could do itthough, even if I had the money!> > earthstrm <nikkimack@m...> wrote:I don't think that I would. I knowthere are a few little things I > wish were different like baby stretch marks for instance, but don't > think it would be worth what you go through.> > Nikki> > , "Anouk Sickler" <zurumato@e...> > wrote:> > the only cosmetic suregery I would consider,> > would be to remove, tiny little spider veins> > behind my knee. but I haven't bothered yet,> > cause I haven't the money.> > > > would you guys consider cosmetic surgery?> > > > i realize its a personal choice.> > > > > > > To send an email to

- > > > >

[Guest guest]

I think there are people like that in every business. I don't know how many times people have been so surprised when I suggested they just keep their phone. They come in looking for the latest model, or whatever and then ask which one is best. Hey, we like to make some money, but we aren't all about the money! Customer satifaction covers many different aspect! Of course, many of these surgeons would be out of a job if they offered couselling to build people's self esteem.

 

I heard recently about a procedure that's being done that can't be good. The commercial states that you can stop your monthlys permanently. The procedure involves putting a wire net inside the uterius and delivering a shock and then they remove the lining. Yeah, that's something I really wanna do! Electricute me baby!jo <jo.heartwork wrote:

 

Hi Jonnie

 

What annoys me is that surgeons are allowed to make money and do unnecessary surgery on someone who is obviously suffering from some mental disorder.

 

Jo

 

-

Jonnie Hellens

Saturday, October 08, 2005 1:28 AM

Re: Re: Fwd: I'm new to the group and have a post in limbo - Favor

 

I know! He was such a cutie before he screwed himself up!heartwerk <jo.heartwork wrote: Surely if they felt better about themselves they wouldn't have felt the need to alter their bodies/faces. If Michael Jackson had felt better about himself he would still be a good-looking chap instead of a freak.Jo , Jonnie Hellens <jonnie_hellens> wrote:> What was nice about the show is that they councelled the women to help them to feel better about themselves. Most of the women then seemed to have a lot more motivation to take care of themselves too.> > peter hurd <swpgh01@t...> wrote:It is only skin deep, ...look for the inner beauty.> > The Valley Vegan.............> > Cyn hacred a phechod As ugly as sin > > > heartwerk

<jo.heartwork@g...> wrote:> Hi Jonnie> > It certainly couldn't be worth all that trouble though, and beauty> isn't everything.> > Jo> > , Jonnie Hellens> wrote:> > I think it was last year we watched a show called The Swan, where> these women went through life transformation which included losing> weight, getting in shape, councelling and cosmetic surgery, then they> had a beauty contest in the end. The team overseeing it chose> everything to be done, but the person had the final say so. They did> all the cosmetic surgery at once, they recovered some and started the> excercise programs. Most of these poor people had tummy tucks, lipo> and things done to their face and were in so much pain that their> morale was really in the toilet (like it was all that high to begin> with.) and I felt so bad for them.

In the end, they were all really> glad they did it and looked gorgious. I don't think I could do it> though, even if I had the money!> > > > earthstrm wrote:I don't think that I would. I know> there are a few little things I > > wish were different like baby stretch marks for instance, but don't > > think it would be worth what you go through.> > > > Nikki> > > > , "Anouk Sickler" > > wrote:> > > the only cosmetic suregery I would consider,> > > would be to remove, tiny little spider veins> > > behind my knee. but I haven't bothered yet,> > > cause I haven't the money.> > > > > > would you guys consider cosmetic surgery?> > > > > > i realize its a personal choice.> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > To send an email to - > > > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

...... but that's all part of being a woman! If people would eat

properly (just give it a little thought) they wouldn't have any

problems with their monthlies.

 

JO

 

> I heard recently about a procedure that's being done that can't be

good. The commercial states that you can stop your monthlys

permanently. The procedure involves putting a wire net inside the

uterius and delivering a shock and then they remove the lining.

Yeah, that's something I really wanna do! Electricute me baby!

>

> jo <jo.heartwork@g...> wrote:

> Hi Jonnie

>

> What annoys me is that surgeons are allowed to make money and do

unnecessary surgery on someone who is obviously suffering from some

mental disorder.

>

> Jo

> -

> Jonnie Hellens

>

> Saturday, October 08, 2005 1:28 AM

> Re: Re: Fwd: I'm new to the group and have a

post in limbo - Favor

>

>

> I know! He was such a cutie before he screwed himself up!

>

> heartwerk <jo.heartwork@g...> wrote: Surely if they felt better

about themselves they wouldn't have felt

> the need to alter their bodies/faces. If Michael Jackson had felt

> better about himself he would still be a good-looking chap instead

of

> a freak.

>

> Jo

>

> , Jonnie Hellens

> <jonnie_hellens> wrote:

> > What was nice about the show is that they councelled the women to

> help them to feel better about themselves. Most of the women then

> seemed to have a lot more motivation to take care of themselves too.

> >

> > peter hurd <swpgh01@t...> wrote:It is only skin deep, ...look for

> the inner beauty.

> >

> > The Valley Vegan.............

> >

> > Cyn hacred a phechod As ugly as sin

> >

> >

> > heartwerk <jo.heartwork@g...> wrote:

> > Hi Jonnie

> >

> > It certainly couldn't be worth all that trouble though, and beauty

> > isn't everything.

> >

> > Jo

> >

> > , Jonnie Hellens

> > wrote:

> > > I think it was last year we watched a show called The Swan,

where

> > these women went through life transformation which included losing

> > weight, getting in shape, councelling and cosmetic surgery, then

> they

> > had a beauty contest in the end. The team overseeing it chose

> > everything to be done, but the person had the final say so. They

did

> > all the cosmetic surgery at once, they recovered some and started

> the

> > excercise programs. Most of these poor people had tummy tucks,

lipo

> > and things done to their face and were in so much pain that their

> > morale was really in the toilet (like it was all that high to

begin

> > with.) and I felt so bad for them. In the end, they were all

really

> > glad they did it and looked gorgious. I don't think I could do it

> > though, even if I had the money!

> > >

> > > earthstrm wrote:I don't think that I would. I know

> > there are a few little things I

> > > wish were different like baby stretch marks for instance, but

> don't

> > > think it would be worth what you go through.

> > >

> > > Nikki

> > >

> > > , " Anouk Sickler "

> > > wrote:

> > > > the only cosmetic suregery I would consider,

> > > > would be to remove, tiny little spider veins

> > > > behind my knee. but I haven't bothered yet,

> > > > cause I haven't the money.

> > > >

> > > > would you guys consider cosmetic surgery?

> > > >

> > > > i realize its a personal choice.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > To send an email to -

>

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Hi Fraggle,

 

I agree with everything except the " too much " and the " mule "

statements.

 

Nikki

 

 

 

i haven't commented, basically cuz i comment to much

but..somehow, the basic premise of the show REALLY bugged me

my ex use to watch it, so i use to go in the living room and read

but

i could hear it and all that

anyways...the whole concept of " lets do a billion surgeries on you

because yer not up to our standards " didn't thrill me

wots wrong with being who you are?

me..i'm uglier then a 16 day old mule.....so wot..who cares?

be who you are....

 

thats just me i guess

[Guest guest]

Monthlies? are these periodicals?

 

The Valley Vegan..........heartwerk <jo.heartwork wrote:

...... but that's all part of being a woman! If people would eat properly (just give it a little thought) they wouldn't have any problems with their monthlies.JO> I heard recently about a procedure that's being done that can't be good. The commercial states that you can stop your monthlys permanently. The procedure involves putting a wire net inside the uterius and delivering a shock and then they remove the lining. Yeah, that's something I really wanna do! Electricute me baby!> > jo wrote:> Hi Jonnie> > What annoys me is that surgeons are allowed to make money and do unnecessary surgery on someone who is obviously suffering from some mental disorder.> > Jo> - > Jonnie Hellens >

> Saturday, October 08, 2005 1:28 AM> Re: Re: Fwd: I'm new to the group and have a post in limbo - Favor> > > I know! He was such a cutie before he screwed himself up!> > heartwerk wrote: Surely if they felt better about themselves they wouldn't have felt > the need to alter their bodies/faces. If Michael Jackson had felt > better about himself he would still be a good-looking chap instead of > a freak.> > Jo> > , Jonnie Hellens > wrote:> > What was nice about the show is that they councelled the women to > help them to feel better about themselves. Most of the women then > seemed to have a lot more motivation to take care of themselves too.> > > > peter hurd wrote:It is only skin deep, ...look for > the

inner beauty.> > > > The Valley Vegan.............> > > > Cyn hacred a phechod As ugly as sin > > > > > > heartwerk wrote:> > Hi Jonnie> > > > It certainly couldn't be worth all that trouble though, and beauty> > isn't everything.> > > > Jo> > > > , Jonnie Hellens> > wrote:> > > I think it was last year we watched a show called The Swan, where> > these women went through life transformation which included losing> > weight, getting in shape, councelling and cosmetic surgery, then > they> > had a beauty contest in the end. The team overseeing it chose> > everything to be done, but the person had the final say so. They did> > all the cosmetic surgery at once, they recovered some and started >

the> > excercise programs. Most of these poor people had tummy tucks, lipo> > and things done to their face and were in so much pain that their> > morale was really in the toilet (like it was all that high to begin> > with.) and I felt so bad for them. In the end, they were all really> > glad they did it and looked gorgious. I don't think I could do it> > though, even if I had the money!> > > > > > earthstrm wrote:I don't think that I would. I know> > there are a few little things I > > > wish were different like baby stretch marks for instance, but > don't > > > think it would be worth what you go through.> > > > > > Nikki> > > > > > , "Anouk Sickler" > > > wrote:> > > > the only cosmetic suregery I would consider,> >

> > would be to remove, tiny little spider veins> > > > behind my knee. but I haven't bothered yet,> > > > cause I haven't the money.> > > > > > > > would you guys consider cosmetic surgery?> > > > > > > > i realize its a personal choice.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To send an email to -> > > > > > > > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

is that more dry welsh humor

never can tell on the internet...

a woman's monthly cycle...her time of the month....the end of her menstrual cycle....etc and so forth peter hurd Oct 11, 2005 5:14 PM Re: Re: Fwd: I'm new to the group and have a post in limbo - Favor

Monthlies? are these periodicals?

 

The Valley Vegan..........heartwerk <jo.heartwork wrote:

...... but that's all part of being a woman! If people would eat properly (just give it a little thought) they wouldn't have any problems with their monthlies.JO> I heard recently about a procedure that's being done that can't be good. The commercial states that you can stop your monthlys permanently. The procedure involves putting a wire net inside the uterius and delivering a shock and then they remove the lining. Yeah, that's something I really wanna do! Electricute me baby!> > jo wrote:> Hi Jonnie> > What annoys me is that surgeons are allowed to make money and do unnecessary surgery on someone who is obviously suffering from some mental disorder.> > Jo> - > Jonnie Hellens > > Saturday, October 08, 2005 1:28 AM> Re: Re: Fwd: I'm new to the group and have a post in limbo - Favor> > > I know! He was such a cutie before he screwed himself up!> > heartwerk wrote: Surely if they felt better about themselves they wouldn't have felt > the need to alter their bodies/faces. If Michael Jackson had felt > better about himself he would still be a good-looking chap instead of > a freak.> > Jo> > , Jonnie Hellens > wrote:> > What was nice about the show is that they councelled the women to > help them to feel better about themselves. Most of the women then > seemed to have a lot more motivation to take care of themselves too.> > > > peter hurd wrote:It is only skin deep, ...look for > the inner beauty.> > > > The Valley Vegan.............> > > > Cyn hacred a phechod As ugly as sin > > > > > > heartwerk wrote:> > Hi Jonnie> > > > It certainly couldn't be worth all that trouble though, and beauty> > isn't everything.> > > > Jo> > > > , Jonnie Hellens> > wrote:> > > I think it was last year we watched a show called The Swan, where> > these women went through life transformation which included losing> > weight, getting in shape, councelling and cosmetic surgery, then > they> > had a beauty contest in the end. The team overseeing it chose> > everything to be done, but the person had the final say so. They did> > all the cosmetic surgery at once, they recovered some and started > the> > excercise programs. Most of these poor people had tummy tucks, lipo> > and things done to their face and were in so much pain that their> > morale was really in the toilet (like it was all that high to begin> > with.) and I felt so bad for them. In the end, they were all really> > glad they did it and looked gorgious. I don't think I could do it> > though, even if I had the money!> > > > > > earthstrm wrote:I don't think that I would. I know> > there are a few little things I > > > wish were different like baby stretch marks for instance, but > don't > > > think it would be worth what you go through.> > > > > > Nikki> > > > > > , "Anouk Sickler" > > > wrote:> > > > the only cosmetic suregery I would consider,> > > > would be to remove, tiny little spider veins> > > > behind my knee. but I haven't bothered yet,> > > > cause I haven't the money.> > > > > > > > would you guys consider cosmetic surgery?> > > > > > > > i realize its a personal choice.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To send an email to -> > > > > > > > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Hey it was only a joke, way too much info...........

 

The Valley Vegan........fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote:

 

is that more dry welsh humor

never can tell on the internet...

a woman's monthly cycle...her time of the month....the end of her menstrual cycle....etc and so forth peter hurd Oct 11, 2005 5:14 PM Re: Re: Fwd: I'm new to the group and have a post in limbo - Favor

Monthlies? are these periodicals?

 

The Valley Vegan..........heartwerk <jo.heartwork wrote:

...... but that's all part of being a woman! If people would eat properly (just give it a little thought) they wouldn't have any problems with their monthlies.JO> I heard recently about a procedure that's being done that can't be good. The commercial states that you can stop your monthlys permanently. The procedure involves putting a wire net inside the uterius and delivering a shock and then they remove the lining. Yeah, that's something I really wanna do! Electricute me baby!> > jo wrote:> Hi Jonnie> > What annoys me is that surgeons are allowed to make money and do unnecessary surgery on someone who is obviously suffering from some mental disorder.> > Jo> - > Jonnie Hellens >

> Saturday, October 08, 2005 1:28 AM> Re: Re: Fwd: I'm new to the group and have a post in limbo - Favor> > > I know! He was such a cutie before he screwed himself up!> > heartwerk wrote: Surely if they felt better about themselves they wouldn't have felt > the need to alter their bodies/faces. If Michael Jackson had felt > better about himself he would still be a good-looking chap instead of > a freak.> > Jo> > , Jonnie Hellens > wrote:> > What was nice about the show is that they councelled the women to > help them to feel better about themselves. Most of the women then > seemed to have a lot more motivation to take care of themselves too.> > > > peter hurd wrote:It is only skin deep, ...look for > the

inner beauty.> > > > The Valley Vegan.............> > > > Cyn hacred a phechod As ugly as sin > > > > > > heartwerk wrote:> > Hi Jonnie> > > > It certainly couldn't be worth all that trouble though, and beauty> > isn't everything.> > > > Jo> > > > , Jonnie Hellens> > wrote:> > > I think it was last year we watched a show called The Swan, where> > these women went through life transformation which included losing> > weight, getting in shape, councelling and cosmetic surgery, then > they> > had a beauty contest in the end. The team overseeing it chose> > everything to be done, but the person had the final say so. They did> > all the cosmetic surgery at once, they recovered some and started >

the> > excercise programs. Most of these poor people had tummy tucks, lipo> > and things done to their face and were in so much pain that their> > morale was really in the toilet (like it was all that high to begin> > with.) and I felt so bad for them. In the end, they were all really> > glad they did it and looked gorgious. I don't think I could do it> > though, even if I had the money!> > > > > > earthstrm wrote:I don't think that I would. I know> > there are a few little things I > > > wish were different like baby stretch marks for instance, but > don't > > > think it would be worth what you go through.> > > > > > Nikki> > > > > > , "Anouk Sickler" > > > wrote:> > > > the only cosmetic suregery I would consider,> >

> > would be to remove, tiny little spider veins> > > > behind my knee. but I haven't bothered yet,> > > > cause I haven't the money.> > > > > > > > would you guys consider cosmetic surgery?> > > > > > > > i realize its a personal choice.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To send an email to -> > > > > > > > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

well..one is never sure

and....have the population has it every month..... peter hurd Oct 11, 2005 5:38 PM Re: Re: Fwd: I'm new to the group and have a post in limbo - Favor

Hey it was only a joke, way too much info...........

 

The Valley Vegan........fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote:

 

is that more dry welsh humor

never can tell on the internet...

a woman's monthly cycle...her time of the month....the end of her menstrual cycle....etc and so forth peter hurd Oct 11, 2005 5:14 PM Re: Re: Fwd: I'm new to the group and have a post in limbo - Favor

Monthlies? are these periodicals?

 

The Valley Vegan..........heartwerk <jo.heartwork wrote:

...... but that's all part of being a woman! If people would eat properly (just give it a little thought) they wouldn't have any problems with their monthlies.JO> I heard recently about a procedure that's being done that can't be good. The commercial states that you can stop your monthlys permanently. The procedure involves putting a wire net inside the uterius and delivering a shock and then they remove the lining. Yeah, that's something I really wanna do! Electricute me baby!> > jo wrote:> Hi Jonnie> > What annoys me is that surgeons are allowed to make money and do unnecessary surgery on someone who is obviously suffering from some mental disorder.> > Jo> - > Jonnie Hellens > > Saturday, October 08, 2005 1:28 AM> Re: Re: Fwd: I'm new to the group and have a post in limbo - Favor> > > I know! He was such a cutie before he screwed himself up!> > heartwerk wrote: Surely if they felt better about themselves they wouldn't have felt > the need to alter their bodies/faces. If Michael Jackson had felt > better about himself he would still be a good-looking chap instead of > a freak.> > Jo> > , Jonnie Hellens > wrote:> > What was nice about the show is that they councelled the women to > help them to feel better about themselves. Most of the women then > seemed to have a lot more motivation to take care of themselves too.> > > > peter hurd wrote:It is only skin deep, ...look for > the inner beauty.> > > > The Valley Vegan.............> > > > Cyn hacred a phechod As ugly as sin > > > > > > heartwerk wrote:> > Hi Jonnie> > > > It certainly couldn't be worth all that trouble though, and beauty> > isn't everything.> > > > Jo> > > > , Jonnie Hellens> > wrote:> > > I think it was last year we watched a show called The Swan, where> > these women went through life transformation which included losing> > weight, getting in shape, councelling and cosmetic surgery, then > they> > had a beauty contest in the end. The team overseeing it chose> > everything to be done, but the person had the final say so. They did> > all the cosmetic surgery at once, they recovered some and started > the> > excercise programs. Most of these poor people had tummy tucks, lipo> > and things done to their face and were in so much pain that their> > morale was really in the toilet (like it was all that high to begin> > with.) and I felt so bad for them. In the end, they were all really> > glad they did it and looked gorgious. I don't think I could do it> > though, even if I had the money!> > > > > > earthstrm wrote:I don't think that I would. I know> > there are a few little things I > > > wish were different like baby stretch marks for instance, but > don't > > > think it would be worth what you go through.> > > > > > Nikki> > > > > > , "Anouk Sickler" > > > wrote:> > > > the only cosmetic suregery I would consider,> > > > would be to remove, tiny little spider veins> > > > behind my knee. but I haven't bothered yet,> > > > cause I haven't the money.> > > > > > > > would you guys consider cosmetic surgery?> > > > > > > > i realize its a personal choice.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To send an email to -> > > > > > > > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

That was suppose to be half, not have fraggle Oct 11, 2005 5:52 PM Re: Re: Fwd: I'm new to the group and have a post in limbo - Favor

well..one is never sure

and....have the population has it every month..... peter hurd Oct 11, 2005 5:38 PM Re: Re: Fwd: I'm new to the group and have a post in limbo - Favor

Hey it was only a joke, way too much info...........

 

The Valley Vegan........fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote:

 

is that more dry welsh humor

never can tell on the internet...

a woman's monthly cycle...her time of the month....the end of her menstrual cycle....etc and so forth peter hurd Oct 11, 2005 5:14 PM Re: Re: Fwd: I'm new to the group and have a post in limbo - Favor

Monthlies? are these periodicals?

 

The Valley Vegan..........heartwerk <jo.heartwork wrote:

...... but that's all part of being a woman! If people would eat properly (just give it a little thought) they wouldn't have any problems with their monthlies.JO> I heard recently about a procedure that's being done that can't be good. The commercial states that you can stop your monthlys permanently. The procedure involves putting a wire net inside the uterius and delivering a shock and then they remove the lining. Yeah, that's something I really wanna do! Electricute me baby!> > jo wrote:> Hi Jonnie> > What annoys me is that surgeons are allowed to make money and do unnecessary surgery on someone who is obviously suffering from some mental disorder.> > Jo> - > Jonnie Hellens > > Saturday, October 08, 2005 1:28 AM> Re: Re: Fwd: I'm new to the group and have a post in limbo - Favor> > > I know! He was such a cutie before he screwed himself up!> > heartwerk wrote: Surely if they felt better about themselves they wouldn't have felt > the need to alter their bodies/faces. If Michael Jackson had felt > better about himself he would still be a good-looking chap instead of > a freak.> > Jo> > , Jonnie Hellens > wrote:> > What was nice about the show is that they councelled the women to > help them to feel better about themselves. Most of the women then > seemed to have a lot more motivation to take care of themselves too.> > > > peter hurd wrote:It is only skin deep, ...look for > the inner beauty.> > > > The Valley Vegan.............> > > > Cyn hacred a phechod As ugly as sin > > > > > > heartwerk wrote:> > Hi Jonnie> > > > It certainly couldn't be worth all that trouble though, and beauty> > isn't everything.> > > > Jo> > > > , Jonnie Hellens> > wrote:> > > I think it was last year we watched a show called The Swan, where> > these women went through life transformation which included losing> > weight, getting in shape, councelling and cosmetic surgery, then > they> > had a beauty contest in the end. The team overseeing it chose> > everything to be done, but the person had the final say so. They did> > all the cosmetic surgery at once, they recovered some and started > the> > excercise programs. Most of these poor people had tummy tucks, lipo> > and things done to their face and were in so much pain that their> > morale was really in the toilet (like it was all that high to begin> > with.) and I felt so bad for them. In the end, they were all really> > glad they did it and looked gorgious. I don't think I could do it> > though, even if I had the money!> > > > > > earthstrm wrote:I don't think that I would. I know> > there are a few little things I > > > wish were different like baby stretch marks for instance, but > don't > > > think it would be worth what you go through.> > > > > > Nikki> > > > > > , "Anouk Sickler" > > > wrote:> > > > the only cosmetic suregery I would consider,> > > > would be to remove, tiny little spider veins> > > > behind my knee. but I haven't bothered yet,> > > > cause I haven't the money.> > > > > > > > would you guys consider cosmetic surgery?> > > > > > > > i realize its a personal choice.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To send an email to -> > > > > > > > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Hi Peter

 

> Monthlies? are these periodicals?

 

Nope.... Periodicals are weeklies, Monthlies are Monthlies, Annuals are yearly.

 

BB

Peter (who used to work in the magazine business!!!!)

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Fraggle

 

> well..one is never sure

> and....have the population has it every month.....

 

Now, I have to challenge that assertion... it must be less than half, because there are a significant number of women who are either too young or too old :-)

 

BB

Peter

[Guest guest]

HI Peter

 

I never thought of that - they could also be pregnant.

 

BBJo

 

-

Peter

Wednesday, October 12, 2005 6:38 PM

Re: Re: Fwd: I'm new to the group and have a post in limbo - Favor

 

Hi Fraggle

 

> well..one is never sure

> and....have the population has it every month.....

 

Now, I have to challenge that assertion... it must be less than half, because there are a significant number of women who are either too young or too old :-)

 

BB

Peter

[Guest guest]

Or like my daughter who they are checking into why she hardly ever....jo <jo.heartwork wrote:

 

HI Peter

 

I never thought of that - they could also be pregnant.

 

BBJo

 

-

Peter

Wednesday, October 12, 2005 6:38 PM

Re: Re: Fwd: I'm new to the group and have a post in limbo - Favor

 

Hi Fraggle

 

> well..one is never sure

> and....have the population has it every month.....

 

Now, I have to challenge that assertion... it must be less than half, because there are a significant number of women who are either too young or too old :-)

 

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That'l teach ya! :)peter hurd <swpgh01 wrote:

 

Hey it was only a joke, way too much info...........

 

The Valley Vegan........fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote:

 

is that more dry welsh humor

never can tell on the internet...

a woman's monthly cycle...her time of the month....the end of her menstrual cycle....etc and so forth peter hurd Oct 11, 2005 5:14 PM Re: Re: Fwd: I'm new to the group and have a post in limbo - Favor

Monthlies? are these periodicals?

 

The Valley Vegan..........heartwerk <jo.heartwork wrote:

...... but that's all part of being a woman! If people would eat properly (just give it a little thought) they wouldn't have any problems with their monthlies.JO> I heard recently about a procedure that's being done that can't be good. The commercial states that you can stop your monthlys permanently. The procedure involves putting a wire net inside the uterius and delivering a shock and then they remove the lining. Yeah, that's something I really wanna do! Electricute me baby!> > jo wrote:> Hi Jonnie> > What annoys me is that surgeons are allowed to make money and do unnecessary surgery on someone who is obviously suffering from some mental disorder.> > Jo> - > Jonnie Hellens >

> Saturday, October 08, 2005 1:28 AM> Re: Re: Fwd: I'm new to the group and have a post in limbo - Favor> > > I know! He was such a cutie before he screwed himself up!> > heartwerk wrote: Surely if they felt better about themselves they wouldn't have felt > the need to alter their bodies/faces. If Michael Jackson had felt > better about himself he would still be a good-looking chap instead of > a freak.> > Jo> > , Jonnie Hellens > wrote:> > What was nice about the show is that they councelled the women to > help them to feel better about themselves. Most of the women then > seemed to have a lot more motivation to take care of themselves too.> > > > peter hurd wrote:It is only skin deep, ...look for > the

inner beauty.> > > > The Valley Vegan.............> > > > Cyn hacred a phechod As ugly as sin > > > > > > heartwerk wrote:> > Hi Jonnie> > > > It certainly couldn't be worth all that trouble though, and beauty> > isn't everything.> > > > Jo> > > > , Jonnie Hellens> > wrote:> > > I think it was last year we watched a show called The Swan, where> > these women went through life transformation which included losing> > weight, getting in shape, councelling and cosmetic surgery, then > they> > had a beauty contest in the end. The team overseeing it chose> > everything to be done, but the person had the final say so. They did> > all the cosmetic surgery at once, they recovered some and started >

the> > excercise programs. Most of these poor people had tummy tucks, lipo> > and things done to their face and were in so much pain that their> > morale was really in the toilet (like it was all that high to begin> > with.) and I felt so bad for them. In the end, they were all really> > glad they did it and looked gorgious. I don't think I could do it> > though, even if I had the money!> > > > > > earthstrm wrote:I don't think that I would. I know> > there are a few little things I > > > wish were different like baby stretch marks for instance, but > don't > > > think it would be worth what you go through.> > > > > > Nikki> > > > > > , "Anouk Sickler" > > > wrote:> > > > the only cosmetic suregery I would consider,> >

> > would be to remove, tiny little spider veins> > > > behind my knee. but I haven't bothered yet,> > > > cause I haven't the money.> > > > > > > > would you guys consider cosmetic surgery?> > > > > > > > i realize its a personal choice.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To send an email to -> > > > > > > > > > > > >