Guest guest Report post Posted June 24, 2005 Petah, Petah, Petah (in my best Bettie Davis voice), most Americans think they are part Cherokee, dear, not Irish. AND, when telling folks their grandmother was a Cherokee princess haven't he foggiest notion of what the term " Cherokee princess " means <eg> Lynda - Peter <metalscarab Thursday, June 23, 2005 4:58 PM Re: Re: pain in my a** > Hi Mary > > > I refuse to speak to you again. Before you get to the UK to the east > > of you you have to pass through us (Irish)to get there and we are > > very upset that you do not recognise this. > > What you have to remember is that most Americans seem to think they are > Irish :-) > > BB > Peter > > > > To send an email to - > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 24, 2005 I used to own a gorgeous AQHA mare named Mary Margaret. Ya suppose she was Irish <g> And, she was gorgeous! Lynda - ChemGeek <chemgeek Thursday, June 23, 2005 5:16 PM Re: Re: pain in my a** > > What you have to remember is that most Americans seem to think they are > > Irish :-) > > What about those of us who actually ARE Irish. > > My sisters are named: > Maureen Kathleen > Kelly Shannon > Mary Margaret > > And my younger son is Sean Patrick... > > If that isn't painfully Irish I dunno what is. > > Talis > > > > To send an email to - > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 24, 2005 GUNS & MOSES??? Not gonna happen! That's worse than Schwartsenazi! Lynda - Craig Dearth Thursday, June 23, 2005 6:55 PM Re: pain in my a** I just saw an episode of sliders where the Republic of California was an independent country their president Charleton Heston (not sure if that would be a good thing) was opposed to the ole USA sorta of a Blue state thing might even move back if Cal was independent =o]] of course it would have to include the old territories of Nevada and Arizona but it would be good ..lol isn't that kinda like a nightmare????:)To send an email to - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 24, 2005 They could always go round :-) Jo - " Mary Minihane " <minih Friday, June 24, 2005 12:23 AM Re: pain in my a** > I refuse to speak to you again. Before you get to the UK to the east > of you you have to pass through us (Irish)to get there and we are > very upset that you do not recognise this. > Mary > > , " Lynda " <lurine@s...> wrote: > > Well, did you watch Kennedy lamblast Rummy this morning? That > should have lightened your day <g> > > > > For our friends on the other sides of the ponds (UK to the east, > Australia to the west), did your broadcast stations carry Rummy's > comments about the troops of other nations not being up to snuff or > as good as U.S. troops? > > > > Now, anyone here from Canada, we are seriously thinking of > immigrating. No joke. > > > > Lynda > > - > > fraggle > > > > Thursday, June 23, 2005 8:20 AM > > Re: pain in my a** > > > > > > apparantly i can > > weird dang accounts > > > > > > > > fraggle > > Jun 23, 2005 8:14 AM > > > > Re: pain in my a** > > > > > > lets see if i can reply to messages > > > > > > > > fraggle > > Jun 23, 2005 7:33 AM > > > > pain in my a** > > > > & ^%* & *^%^$#%@#$#@$^% & & **( & * & !!! > > my e-mails are all bouncing out > > i can't send to the group from my normal e-mail account > > gawd sometimes i really hate > > > > sorry peter..i sent the punk rawk dance 101 thing > > it vanished.... > > > > freakin > > grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr > > > > > > > > > > To send an email to - > > > > > > > > > - > ----------- > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 24, 2005 Thre you are - just what Peter said :-) Jo > > What you have to remember is that most Americans seem to think they are > > Irish :-) > > What about those of us who actually ARE Irish. > > My sisters are named: > Maureen Kathleen > Kelly Shannon > Mary Margaret > > And my younger son is Sean Patrick... > > If that isn't painfully Irish I dunno what is. > > Talis > > > > To send an email to - > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 24, 2005 Yuck, No! If I were to move there, it definately wouldn't be to Phoenix or anywhere else heavily populated. It would be somewhere I could get a decent size piece of land and though not too far to civilization, not too close either. New Mexico and Nevada wouldn't be bad either. Somewhere warm most if not all of the time, close to nature. Nikki , " ChemGeek " <chemgeek@c...> wrote: > > Myself I dream of Arizona... > > Good lord, why? Well Northern Arizona is the most beautiful place I've ever > lived. I love the mountains and the crisp cool air along with the wonderful > pine trees. However, Phoenix (and that whole area) is a pit from hell > filled with morons, massive pollution and it's easily 115 every day in the > summer. Screw a bunch of that. Might not be much left of AZ if these 5 > fires that are burning aren't full contained pretty damn quick. > > Talisman Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 24, 2005 Perhaps for some, not for me. Depends on what you are looking for. Nikki , fraggle <EBbrewpunx@e...> wrote: > isn't that kinda like a nightmare???? > > > > nikki_mackovitch <nikkimack@m...> > Jun 23, 2005 2:48 PM > > Re: pain in my a** > > Now that's a season i could live with! > > Myself I dream of Arizona... > > Nikki > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 24, 2005 I have just taken a vote here and you have been forgiven Mary , " Lynda " <lurine@s...> wrote: > Wait a minute. My first hubby's mother was an O'Halloran. Does that count > <g> I mean, Mary Elizabeth of the strawberry blonde hair. How more Irish > can you get <g> > > Lynda > - > Mary Minihane <minih@g...> > > Thursday, June 23, 2005 4:23 PM > Re: pain in my a** > > > > I refuse to speak to you again. Before you get to the UK to the east > > of you you have to pass through us (Irish)to get there and we are > > very upset that you do not recognise this. > > Mary > > > > , " Lynda " <lurine@s...> wrote: > > > Well, did you watch Kennedy lamblast Rummy this morning? That > > should have lightened your day <g> > > > > > > For our friends on the other sides of the ponds (UK to the east, > > Australia to the west), did your broadcast stations carry Rummy's > > comments about the troops of other nations not being up to snuff or > > as good as U.S. troops? > > > > > > Now, anyone here from Canada, we are seriously thinking of > > immigrating. No joke. > > > > > > Lynda > > > - > > > fraggle > > > > > > Thursday, June 23, 2005 8:20 AM > > > Re: pain in my a** > > > > > > > > > apparantly i can > > > weird dang accounts > > > > > > > > > > > > fraggle > > > Jun 23, 2005 8:14 AM > > > > > > Re: pain in my a** > > > > > > > > > lets see if i can reply to messages > > > > > > > > > > > > fraggle > > > Jun 23, 2005 7:33 AM > > > > > > pain in my a** > > > > > > & ^%* & *^%^$#%@#$#@$^% & & **( & * & !!! > > > my e-mails are all bouncing out > > > i can't send to the group from my normal e-mail account > > > gawd sometimes i really hate > > > > > > sorry peter..i sent the punk rawk dance 101 thing > > > it vanished.... > > > > > > freakin > > > grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To send an email to - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ ---- > > ----------- > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 24, 2005 What does Cherokee princess mean? Jo > Petah, Petah, Petah (in my best Bettie Davis voice), most Americans think > they are part Cherokee, dear, not Irish. AND, when telling folks their > grandmother was a Cherokee princess haven't he foggiest notion of what the > term " Cherokee princess " means <eg> > > Lynda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 24, 2005 First you need to know that over the last few decades it has become " in " over here to be American Indian. Gets old real fast when you realise that until 1928 an American Indian had no rights and was legally defined by law as " not human. " Now, one has to understand that there is no " royalty " in the Cherokee Nation. The term was used by folks to describe " hang around the fort " Indian women who were, hmmm, well to put it bluntly, whores. So, needless to say with the history of discrimination, etc. " real " Indians get quite a kick out of folks who have " discovered " they are Indian and proudly proclaim that their grandmother was a " Cherokee princess. " Of course, 99% of them aren't and haven't a clue. My only comment to them is that if there were that many Cherokees the invaders would never have taken over this continent. Lynda - Jo Cwazy <heartwork Friday, June 24, 2005 6:54 AM Re: Re: pain in my a** > What does Cherokee princess mean? > > Jo > > > > > Petah, Petah, Petah (in my best Bettie Davis voice), most Americans think > > they are part Cherokee, dear, not Irish. AND, when telling folks their > > grandmother was a Cherokee princess haven't he foggiest notion of what the > > term " Cherokee princess " means <eg> > > > > Lynda > > > > To send an email to - > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 24, 2005 Very true! I can't understand all the worry about where your ancestors came from etc. Jo > Now, one has to understand that there is no " royalty " in the Cherokee > Nation. The term was used by folks to describe " hang around the fort " > Indian women who were, hmmm, well to put it bluntly, whores. So, needless > to say with the history of discrimination, etc. " real " Indians get quite a > kick out of folks who have " discovered " they are Indian and proudly proclaim > that their grandmother was a " Cherokee princess. " > > Of course, 99% of them aren't and haven't a clue. My only comment to them > is that if there were that many Cherokees the invaders would never have > taken over this continent. > > Lynda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 24, 2005 Go to Germany. There are whole groups that are just goo gaa over anything American Indian. They spend weeks at a time " playing " Indian and will spend a mint on anything authentic American Indian. Give themselves American Indian names, pay for " real " American Indians to come over and teach them how to be American Indian. Lynda - Jo Cwazy <heartwork Friday, June 24, 2005 9:36 AM Re: Re: pain in my a** > Very true! > > I can't understand all the worry about where your ancestors came from etc. > > Jo > > > Now, one has to understand that there is no " royalty " in the Cherokee > > Nation. The term was used by folks to describe " hang around the fort " > > Indian women who were, hmmm, well to put it bluntly, whores. So, needless > > to say with the history of discrimination, etc. " real " Indians get quite a > > kick out of folks who have " discovered " they are Indian and proudly > proclaim > > that their grandmother was a " Cherokee princess. " > > > > Of course, 99% of them aren't and haven't a clue. My only comment to them > > is that if there were that many Cherokees the invaders would never have > > taken over this continent. > > > > Lynda > > > > > To send an email to - > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 25, 2005 Wouldnt make any difference would it? friendly fire, my foot! We painted our tanks and aircraft with agreed markings so that you wouldnt attack them, and you have sophisticated technology to identify them, and still you "offered" friendly fire. What do you do to your enemies? The Valley Vegan..........digging in.fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: maybe ya'll should go back to wearin those big red costumes again.... Jo Cwazy Jun 23, 2005 11:15 AM Re: pain in my a** Very true - During the actual war we lost more troops killed by Americans than by Iraqis! Anyway - war is bad - it's something we shouldn't be doing. Jo - Peter Thursday, June 23, 2005 6:35 PM Re: pain in my a** Hi Lynda > For our friends on the other sides of the ponds (UK to the east, Australia to the west), did your broadcast > stations carry Rummy's comments about the troops of other nations not being up to snuff or as good as U.S. > troops? Now, as anyone who knows me will know, I am not at all fond of any army, and I'm in no way "patriotic", but it has to be said that the number of British troops killed by US "friendly fire" is rather high, and yet not a single death caused by "friendly fire" by British troops. Of course, most British troops do have experience of doing service in a scenario not too different from Iraq at the moment, since most of them have served in Northern Ireland at some point during their careers! Still, we must remember that Rumsfeld is the man who thinks that drinking Formaldahyde and Formic acid is safe, so we shouldn't take him too seriously. BB PeterTo send an email to - To send an email to - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 25, 2005 hey there now..wots this "we" and "you" crud? :)its not my year to bomb things...i'm in charge of tides and cobwebs..... as for our enemies...duh..we coddle them and pretend to be friends, and then blow them up... peter hurd Jun 25, 2005 7:20 AM Re: pain in my a** Wouldnt make any difference would it? friendly fire, my foot! We painted our tanks and aircraft with agreed markings so that you wouldnt attack them, and you have sophisticated technology to identify them, and still you "offered" friendly fire. What do you do to your enemies? The Valley Vegan..........digging in.fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: maybe ya'll should go back to wearin those big red costumes again.... Jo Cwazy Jun 23, 2005 11:15 AM Re: pain in my a** Very true - During the actual war we lost more troops killed by Americans than by Iraqis! Anyway - war is bad - it's something we shouldn't be doing. Jo - Peter Thursday, June 23, 2005 6:35 PM Re: pain in my a** Hi Lynda > For our friends on the other sides of the ponds (UK to the east, Australia to the west), did your broadcast > stations carry Rummy's comments about the troops of other nations not being up to snuff or as good as U.S. > troops? Now, as anyone who knows me will know, I am not at all fond of any army, and I'm in no way "patriotic", but it has to be said that the number of British troops killed by US "friendly fire" is rather high, and yet not a single death caused by "friendly fire" by British troops. Of course, most British troops do have experience of doing service in a scenario not too different from Iraq at the moment, since most of them have served in Northern Ireland at some point during their careers! Still, we must remember that Rumsfeld is the man who thinks that drinking Formaldahyde and Formic acid is safe, so we shouldn't take him too seriously. BB PeterTo send an email to - To send an email to - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 25, 2005 Sorry my vegan bro, you doin a good job of the moon and tides, but you cobwebbs are a little shoddy. B-. The Valley Vegan...... Zen fascists will control you100% naturalYou will jog for the master raceAnd always wear the happy face fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: hey there now..wots this "we" and "you" crud? :)its not my year to bomb things...i'm in charge of tides and cobwebs..... as for our enemies...duh..we coddle them and pretend to be friends, and then blow them up... peter hurd Jun 25, 2005 7:20 AM Re: pain in my a** Wouldnt make any difference would it? friendly fire, my foot! We painted our tanks and aircraft with agreed markings so that you wouldnt attack them, and you have sophisticated technology to identify them, and still you "offered" friendly fire. What do you do to your enemies? The Valley Vegan..........digging in.fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: maybe ya'll should go back to wearin those big red costumes again.... Jo Cwazy Jun 23, 2005 11:15 AM Re: pain in my a** Very true - During the actual war we lost more troops killed by Americans than by Iraqis! Anyway - war is bad - it's something we shouldn't be doing. Jo - Peter Thursday, June 23, 2005 6:35 PM Re: pain in my a** Hi Lynda > For our friends on the other sides of the ponds (UK to the east, Australia to the west), did your broadcast > stations carry Rummy's comments about the troops of other nations not being up to snuff or as good as U.S. > troops? Now, as anyone who knows me will know, I am not at all fond of any army, and I'm in no way "patriotic", but it has to be said that the number of British troops killed by US "friendly fire" is rather high, and yet not a single death caused by "friendly fire" by British troops. Of course, most British troops do have experience of doing service in a scenario not too different from Iraq at the moment, since most of them have served in Northern Ireland at some point during their careers! Still, we must remember that Rumsfeld is the man who thinks that drinking Formaldahyde and Formic acid is safe, so we shouldn't take him too seriously. BB PeterTo send an email to - To send an email to - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 25, 2005 i never could do the delicate work peter hurd Jun 25, 2005 8:32 AM Re: pain in my a** Sorry my vegan bro, you doin a good job of the moon and tides, but you cobwebbs are a little shoddy. B-. The Valley Vegan...... "God was my co-pilot, but we crashed in the Andes and I had to eat him." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 25, 2005 Are you in charge of tides again? I don't think that's fair. I wanted to do that last year. I don't mind you being in charge of cobwebs though - but I do know who to blame for the busy spiders this year. BBJo hey there now..wots this "we" and "you" crud? :)its not my year to bomb things...i'm in charge of tides and cobwebs..... as for our enemies...duh..we coddle them and pretend to be friends, and then blow them up... peter hurd Jun 25, 2005 7:20 AM Re: pain in my a** Wouldnt make any difference would it? friendly fire, my foot! We painted our tanks and aircraft with agreed markings so that you wouldnt attack them, and you have sophisticated technology to identify them, and still you "offered" friendly fire. What do you do to your enemies? The Valley Vegan..........digging in.fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: maybe ya'll should go back to wearin those big red costumes again.... Jo Cwazy Jun 23, 2005 11:15 AM Re: pain in my a** Very true - During the actual war we lost more troops killed by Americans than by Iraqis! Anyway - war is bad - it's something we shouldn't be doing. Jo - Peter Thursday, June 23, 2005 6:35 PM Re: pain in my a** Hi Lynda > For our friends on the other sides of the ponds (UK to the east, Australia to the west), did your broadcast > stations carry Rummy's comments about the troops of other nations not being up to snuff or as good as U.S. > troops? Now, as anyone who knows me will know, I am not at all fond of any army, and I'm in no way "patriotic", but it has to be said that the number of British troops killed by US "friendly fire" is rather high, and yet not a single death caused by "friendly fire" by British troops. Of course, most British troops do have experience of doing service in a scenario not too different from Iraq at the moment, since most of them have served in Northern Ireland at some point during their careers! Still, we must remember that Rumsfeld is the man who thinks that drinking Formaldahyde and Formic acid is safe, so we shouldn't take him too seriously. BB PeterTo send an email to - To send an email to - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 26, 2005 Hi Talisman > My sisters are named: > Maureen Kathleen > Kelly Shannon > Mary Margaret > And my younger son is Sean Patrick... My father and uncles almost all have Scottish names - doesn't mean they're Scottish... and I believe " Peter " originates in the middle east! BB Peter Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 26, 2005 Hi Fraggle > ey nigh! > waaat chucker yer tink yer are blatherin' aboyt! > scon are in me weck Oirish at al!!! Which I think more than proves my point... anyone *really* Irish would have put " feck " every other word :-) BB Peter Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 26, 2005 Hi Lynda > Wait a minute. My first hubby's mother was an O'Halloran. Does > that count > <g> I mean, Mary Elizabeth of the strawberry blonde hair. How > more Irish > can you get <g> Hmmm... I don't know, how about, for example, being born in Ireland, or perhaps spending more than the ocassional holiday there? :-) BB Peter5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 26, 2005 Hi Lynda > First you need to know that over the last few decades it has become " in " > over here to be American Indian. A related question... what is the PC term for these folks nowadays? A couple of years ago, it was Native American, and I seem to remember about 10 years ago " Indian " was generally considered to be derogatory... there seem to be so many terms, I no longer know which ones are considered acceptable! BB Peter Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 26, 2005 Hi Peter > What do you do to your enemies? I seem to recall that they play Metallica to them.... someone, somewhere has their priorities wrong. BB Peter Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 26, 2005 Her father came straight off the boat. Of course, after he shot her mother, he hopped a train and then got on the first boat heading back to Ireland and was never seen again <<bg>> It should be noted that when her mother died at a very advanced age (well over 90) that she still had one of the bullets in her hip. Lynda - Peter <metalscarab Saturday, June 25, 2005 4:43 PM Re: Re: pain in my a** > Hi Lynda > > > Wait a minute. My first hubby's mother was an O'Halloran. Does > > that count > > <g> I mean, Mary Elizabeth of the strawberry blonde hair. How > > more Irish > > can you get <g> > > Hmmm... I don't know, how about, for example, being born in Ireland, or > perhaps spending more than the ocassional holiday there? :-) > > BB > Peter5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 26, 2005 If we had our drothers folks would ask and the name of the people in question would be used. Kinda like folks calling everyone from the east side of the pond Europeans or the west side of the pond Americans. With the influx of east Indians to the U.S. it has become somewhat confusing. So it is up for grabs but a lot of the rez raised and those raised in their ethnic traditions refer to themselves as " The People " or " First Nations. " Now are you confused <g> Lynda, Wiyot - Peter <metalscarab Saturday, June 25, 2005 4:48 PM Re: Re: pain in my a** > Hi Lynda > > > First you need to know that over the last few decades it has become " in " > > over here to be American Indian. > > A related question... what is the PC term for these folks nowadays? A couple > of years ago, it was Native American, and I seem to remember about 10 years > ago " Indian " was generally considered to be derogatory... there seem to be > so many terms, I no longer know which ones are considered acceptable! > > BB > Peter > > > > To send an email to - > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 26, 2005 Yes - we don't get that on the radio - how come the 'baddies' get it :-) BBJo Hi Peter > What do you do to your enemies? I seem to recall that they play Metallica to them.... someone, somewhere has their priorities wrong. BB PeterTo send an email to - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
