Guest guest Report post Posted May 31, 2007 I know, I know I have already wrote about this but I am very frustrated on this. My children have dark raccoon eyes they look horrible. My girlfriend who is a vegan and have beautiful pale non-raccoon eyed children swears by Barley Green and 1 T of brewer's yeast each day. The problem is both of those are gross and my boys won't touch it. I brought a one week diary to the nutritionist and she said we eat better then most people and " maybe some people need animal protein to ensure proper health " It puts a mom in a rough spot so I thought I would ask yet again if anyone has anything they add in their children's diets to prevent them from looking so ill. I am sick of the comments and frankly looking at my kids makes me feel like I am doing something wrong since they look so bad. Thanks Steph Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Answers - Check it out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 31, 2007 As a suffer of dark under eye circles my entire life I know how you feel. It could be a Vitamin K deficiency, which the nutritionist is talking about when she says animal protein. But actually you can get Vitamin K in Dark green leafy vegetables and Avocados. I would also test out several allergy , I know that when I was eating Dairy my circles were a lot darker. Are you vegan or Vegetarian? If your boys drink milk have them stop for a week and see if you notice a difference. If not then try removing wheat products for a week etc....Keep going to see if there is a food allergy that is causing the circles. Also do the basics, Enough sleep, don't rub the eyes, drink plenty of water. Add a vitamin supplement to their diet. The boys most likely won't sit still long enough for the cool teabags or cucumbers slices on their eyes. http://www.wikihow.com/Get-Rid-of-Black-Circles-Under-Your-Eyes On 5/31/07, Steph <mrswalp29 wrote: > > I know, I know I have already wrote about this but I am very frustrated > on this. My children have dark raccoon eyes they look horrible. My > girlfriend who is a vegan and have beautiful pale non-raccoon eyed children > swears by Barley Green and 1 T of brewer's yeast each day. The problem is > both > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 31, 2007 Hello! I am new here and am excited to be a part of this group! I love your recipes and am having fun learning all kinds of new things! (like what are ramps!) I wanted to make a quick comment to you, Steph. I have two teenage daughters and we are lacto-ovo-vegetarian at the moment but moving to a more vegan diet. We take supplements for several things, especially since they are in their growing years. When we have an issue arise I always research it and find out...what is causing this. I did a quick search on google and found this little blurb at www.darkcircles.net " Many people associate allergies with dark circles. This is a real and established connection. In fact, many doctors consider dark circles as an indication of allergies in children. " Also on other sites I found that dark circles can be caused by nasal congestion, sleep difficulty, and dehydration, just to name a few. Maybe it doesn't have anything to do with their diet. They could have mold allergies or it could be hereditary to have dark circles. I can see why you would be frustrated. Look into these areas maybe you will find the answer there! A little addition. An easy way for me to get the 'good stuff' in my girls is to add protein powder, molasses, and flax seed in breakfast smoothies. I hope this helps! Sheila , Steph <mrswalp29 wrote: > > I know, I know I have already wrote about this but I am very frustrated on this. My children have dark raccoon eyes they look horrible. My girlfriend who is a vegan and have beautiful pale non- raccoon eyed children swears by Barley Green and 1 T of brewer's yeast each day. The problem is both of those are gross and my boys won't touch it. I brought a one week diary to the nutritionist and she said we eat better then most people and " maybe some people need animal protein to ensure proper health " It puts a mom in a rough spot so I thought I would ask yet again if anyone has anything they add in their children's diets to prevent them from looking so ill. I am sick of the comments and frankly looking at my kids makes me feel like I am doing something wrong since they look so bad. Thanks > Steph > > > > Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. > Answers - Check it out. > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 31, 2007 It depends on what is really causing the dark eyes. My daughter has them and I was always told it was iron deficiency. However, I found out that hers are actually caused by allergies (I did not even think she had any allergies, but found out otherwise). The pulmonologist actually calls " allergy shiners " . So, if it is allergies, you need to take care of that and if it is iron, any iron rich foods or kids multivitamin with iron should help. HTH, Tracy , Steph <mrswalp29 wrote: > > I know, I know I have already wrote about this but I am very frustrated on this. My children have dark raccoon eyes they look horrible. My girlfriend who is a vegan and have beautiful pale non- raccoon eyed children swears by Barley Green and 1 T of brewer's yeast each day. The problem is both of those are gross and my boys won't touch it. I brought a one week diary to the nutritionist and she said we eat better then most people and " maybe some people need animal protein to ensure proper health " It puts a mom in a rough spot so I thought I would ask yet again if anyone has anything they add in their children's diets to prevent them from looking so ill. I am sick of the comments and frankly looking at my kids makes me feel like I am doing something wrong since they look so bad. Thanks > Steph > > > > Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. > Answers - Check it out. > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 31, 2007 Hi, Steph. By any chance do your kids have allergies? They can be associated with raccoon eyes (at least they were when I was little). Jen - Steph vegetarian group Thursday, May 31, 2007 7:48 AM O.T Raccoon Eyes I know, I know I have already wrote about this but I am very frustrated on this. My children have dark raccoon eyes they look horrible. My girlfriend who is a vegan and have beautiful pale non-raccoon eyed children swears by Barley Green and 1 T of brewer's yeast each day. The problem is both of those are gross and my boys won't touch it. I brought a one week diary to the nutritionist and she said we eat better then most people and " maybe some people need animal protein to ensure proper health " It puts a mom in a rough spot so I thought I would ask yet again if anyone has anything they add in their children's diets to prevent them from looking so ill. I am sick of the comments and frankly looking at my kids makes me feel like I am doing something wrong since they look so bad. Thanks Steph Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Answers - Check it out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 31, 2007 Your children may simply have allergy shiners. They may be showing signs of allergies to enviornmental toxins. I would look into this avenue also. Moe in Va. who is new and will post an intro soon! Steph <mrswalp29 vegetarian group Thu, 31 May 2007 7:48 am O.T Raccoon Eyes I know, I know I have already wrote about this but I am very frustrated on this. My children have dark raccoon eyes they look horrible. My girlfriend who is a vegan and have beautiful pale non-raccoon eyed children swears by Barley Green and 1 T of brewer's yeast each day. The problem is both of those are gross and my boys won't touch it. I brought a one week diary to the nutritionist and she said we eat better then most people and " maybe some people need animal protein to ensure proper health " It puts a mom in a rough spot so I thought I would ask yet again if anyone has anything they add in their children's diets to prevent them from looking so ill. I am sick of the comments and frankly looking at my kids makes me feel like I am doing something wrong since they look so bad. Thanks Steph Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Answers - Check it out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 31, 2007 I would be very interested in this too. My daughter has the same under her eyes. My husband is worried, he says she looks like she always has " black eyes " , like she was hit. I have noticed that since I became vegetarian, I have them too. My husband says I look sick. I feel fine but maybe something isn't right? Stephanie , Steph <mrswalp29 wrote: > > I know, I know I have already wrote about this but I am very frustrated on this. My children have dark raccoon eyes they look horrible. My girlfriend who is a vegan and have beautiful pale non- raccoon eyed children swears by Barley Green and 1 T of brewer's yeast each day. The problem is both of those are gross and my boys won't touch it. I brought a one week diary to the nutritionist and she said we eat better then most people and " maybe some people need animal protein to ensure proper health " It puts a mom in a rough spot so I thought I would ask yet again if anyone has anything they add in their children's diets to prevent them from looking so ill. I am sick of the comments and frankly looking at my kids makes me feel like I am doing something wrong since they look so bad. Thanks > Steph > > > > Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. > Answers - Check it out. > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 31, 2007 I had the same problem with my son turned out he had very bad allergies. He was allergic to every grass and tree, dust dust, mites and eggs. they wanted him to have allergy shots for the trees and stuff but my husband like to have died as a kid from them. He out grew his and after 2.5 years of being carefull and a med he is doing fine he know is only allergic to 1 grass and dust and dust mites.. raccoon eyes gone except on very high pollon days you are going to have days that are like that. You can got to a Ent or Allergy Doc but regular doc can tell youfor sure. Hope that helps Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Autos new Car Finder tool. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 31, 2007 Have you considered a food allergy? My son is allergic to nightshades. His favorite foods were tomatoes and potatoes. Now that he no longer eats these his dark circles have disappeared. Faith _____ On Behalf Of Steph Thursday, May 31, 2007 6:48 AM vegetarian group O.T Raccoon Eyes I know, I know I have already wrote about this but I am very frustrated on this. My children have dark raccoon eyes they look horrible. My girlfriend who is a vegan and have beautiful pale non-raccoon eyed children swears by Barley Green and 1 T of brewer's yeast each day. The problem is both of those are gross and my boys won't touch it. I brought a one week diary to the nutritionist and she said we eat better then most people and " maybe some people need animal protein to ensure proper health " It puts a mom in a rough spot so I thought I would ask yet again if anyone has anything they add in their children's diets to prevent them from looking so ill. I am sick of the comments and frankly looking at my kids makes me feel like I am doing something wrong since they look so bad. Thanks Steph Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 31, 2007 What is your daily diet like? Also do you give your children a vitamin supplement or plenty of fruits and vegetables through out the day? There may be a vitamin K defiency and that can be solved with dark green leafy veggies. Let me say that often dark eyes are more about allergies. Do they have runny noses, continuous colds, and a cough throughout the day? As far as the barely and other ingredients being nasty or disgusting, let me say that there are times when what we desire must take a back door to what we need. If your goal is a vegetarian diet then there must supplemental ways you take to avoid meat. If your children or you don't like it experiment with ways to hide the taste like muffins or smoothies. I hope this helps some. LaTara Ham-Ying The Vegan Cooking Coach http://www.veganfamilyliving.com Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on TV. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 31, 2007 When I was taking my son to an allergist years ago, he said that those dark circles under your eyes are very often a symptom of allergies. Not necessarily to foods, but the seasonal types or allergies to animals and such. I have them, both of my kids do too. We've never gone through any testing to find out what we're allergic to, but that's what he told me. On Behalf Of Stephanie Thursday, May 31, 2007 8:45 AM Re: O.T Raccoon Eyes I would be very interested in this too. My daughter has the same under her eyes. My husband is worried, he says she looks like she always has " black eyes " , like she was hit. I have noticed that since I became vegetarian, I have them too. My husband says I look sick. I feel fine but maybe something isn't right? Stephanie , Steph <mrswalp29 wrote: > > I know, I know I have already wrote about this but I am very frustrated on this. My children have dark raccoon eyes they look horrible. My girlfriend who is a vegan and have beautiful pale non- raccoon eyed children swears by Barley Green and 1 T of brewer's yeast each day. The problem is both of those are gross and my boys won't touch it. I brought a one week diary to the nutritionist and she said we eat better then most people and " maybe some people need animal protein to ensure proper health " It puts a mom in a rough spot so I thought I would ask yet again if anyone has anything they add in their children's diets to prevent them from looking so ill. I am sick of the comments and frankly looking at my kids makes me feel like I am doing something wrong since they look so bad. Thanks > Steph > > > > Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. > Answers - Check it out. > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 31, 2007 as an allergy sufferer (the list of things I'm allergic to thankfully doesn't include food) but between allergies to dust, mites, molds, pollen, animal dander, grasses, weeds, feathers, etc., and tending toward anemia, I often have dark circles. Being short on sleep makes it worse. Some of it is hereditary too.... If the doc gave you a clean bill of health and you feel ok, I agree with Deanna. Also, my dark circles were much worse in adolescence and my twenties. Amy ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 31, 2007 Steph, Dark circles under eyes can sometimes be caused from sinus problems/allergies. Even eye strain or sleeping habits. It can just be a genetic thing. Comparing our physical appearances with others is a self defeating , and often discouraging thing to do. If your children are prone to allergies you might try reading up on safer bed clothes and air circulation. That would mean no feather pillows etc. Change to matural cotton sheets and blankets and no toxic chemicals out in the open. You might also try some cool compresses , especially before bedtime when eyes have a tendancy to swell. I have Spider Plants in my bedroom among others to clean toxins from the air and provide oxygen. Having dark circles under one's eyes does not always mean that one is 'ill'. And your children can get needed protein from grains and veggies. Keep up the good work and continue watching for signs of allergies including some foods. Sending smiles and hugs your way Deanna in Colorado. , Steph <mrswalp29 wrote: > > I know, I know I have already wrote about this but I am very frustrated on this. My children have dark raccoon eyes they look horrible. -text portions of this message have been removed] > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 31, 2007 http://www.med.umich.edu/1libr/pa/pa_darkcirc_hhg.htm -:¦:-..· ´¨¨)) -:¦:-¸¸.·´¨ (¨`·.·´¨) `·.¸.· dj -:¦:- ¸¸.·´¨ ((¸¸.·´¨ ..·´ -:¦:- ¸¸.·´¨ -:¦:- ((¸¸.·´* - genny_y2k Thursday, May 31, 2007 11:02 AM Re: O.T Raccoon Eyes Steph, Dark circles under eyes can sometimes be caused from sinus problems/allergies. Even eye strain or sleeping habits. It can just be a genetic thing. Comparing our physical appearances with others is a self defeating , and often discouraging thing to do. If your children are prone to allergies you might try reading up on safer bed clothes and air circulation. That would mean no feather pillows etc. Change to matural cotton sheets and blankets and no toxic chemicals out in the open. You might also try some cool compresses , especially before bedtime when eyes have a tendancy to swell. I have Spider Plants in my bedroom among others to clean toxins from the air and provide oxygen. Having dark circles under one's eyes does not always mean that one is 'ill'. And your children can get needed protein from grains and veggies. Keep up the good work and continue watching for signs of allergies including some foods. Sending smiles and hugs your way Deanna in Colorado. , Steph <mrswalp29 wrote: > > I know, I know I have already wrote about this but I am very frustrated on this. My children have dark raccoon eyes they look horrible. -text portions of this message have been removed] > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 31, 2007 Oh, my anemia can contribute too.....maybe some more iron rich veggies? ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 31, 2007 My sister says that dark circles under (and around) her eyes is dehydration. She has had bowel surgery, and dehydration is a constant issue for her. My daughter also suffers with dehydration. Kidney stones. I can sometimes know that we will be headed for the hospital soon just by looking at her. Extreme dark circles appear almost overnight. (It's a cycle. She doesn't drink water because she doesn't want to cause a kidney stone to start moving around, and not drinking enough water encourages the formation of more stones.). She's over 18 and runs too quick for me to just sit on her and force her to drink something :-) Pushing liquids on your kids might help and shouldn't hurt anything. -- Kat_Doyle (@earthlink.net) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 31, 2007 I'm not a doctor or a nutritionist but your description of " raccoon eyes " sounds like a symptom of allergies. Lots of kids have what doctors call " allergic shiners " or dark circles around their eyes as an allergic reaction. It could be an allergy to pollen, or certain foods, or almost anything. You might consider having them tested for allergies. At the very least I would definitely find a new nutritionist!!!! Good luck. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 31, 2007 Have you investigated food or environmental allergies? If you are vegan you don't need to worry about the common allergies to egg or milk, but wheat, soy, nuts or other foods could be causing issues. Do your kids have other symptoms like eczema or rough skin patches, etc? Are the circles worse in the summer or spring when there are a lot of pollens out? I've had dark circles all of my life, and they've improved with elimination of some foods and limits on other foods. For my dd, raccoon eyes are an indicator of one of 2 things-- either she ate an allergic food or she's not had enough sleep. Best of luck in finding your solution, Lori Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 31, 2007 hello everyone in the group, my husband also suffers dark black circle eyes, he is a doctor himself and due to heavy work and lack of sleep, he often gets dark circle eyes...he recently brought a cold/hot eye mask which works relaxing and relieves black circle and tired eyes... i dont have this problem so i have never tried, but i saw this is the product he has used to relief the black circle...i hope this information helps...have a nice day, yOkO ^^) akfral wrote: as an allergy sufferer (the list of things I'm allergic to thankfully doesn't include food) but between allergies to dust, mites, molds, pollen, animal dander, grasses, weeds, feathers, etc., and tending toward anemia, I often have dark circles. Being short on sleep makes it worse. Some of it is hereditary too.... If the doc gave you a clean bill of health and you feel ok, I agree with Deanna. Also, my dark circles were much worse in adolescence and my twenties. Amy ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 31, 2007 Thanks everyone for your time and input. It is such a struggle especially when people and peers talk and ask questions. My little one does have allergies but our 10 year old doesn't as far as I am aware. I would love to relax about it, it is just so hard to look at them and wonder if it is something I am doing. I have a huge drive to remain a vegetarian although we do eat free range eggs and veggie friendly cheese. Such a rough spot since meat eaters tend to judge and simply say give them a burger once in a while. Hugs, Steph Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 31, 2007 Is everyone taking a good multi-vitamin??? You can conceal wheat grass, flax oil, and nut yeast in a strawberry smoothie/milkshake. Did you have bloodwork run to see what you are difficient in? It's easier than guessing what may be wrong : ) I get the circles because of allergies. , " Stephanie " <stargazerlily72 wrote: > > I would be very interested in this too. My daughter has the same > under her eyes. My husband is worried, he says she looks like she > always has " black eyes " , like she was hit. I have noticed that since > I became vegetarian, I have them too. My husband says I look sick. > I feel fine but maybe something isn't right? > Stephanie > > , Steph <mrswalp29@> wrote: > > > > I know, I know I have already wrote about this but I am very > frustrated on this. My children have dark raccoon eyes they look > horrible. My girlfriend who is a vegan and have beautiful pale non- > raccoon eyed children swears by Barley Green and 1 T of brewer's > yeast each day. The problem is both of those are gross and my boys > won't touch it. I brought a one week diary to the nutritionist and > she said we eat better then most people and " maybe some people need > animal protein to ensure proper health " It puts a mom in a rough spot > so I thought I would ask yet again if anyone has anything they add in > their children's diets to prevent them from looking so ill. I am > sick of the comments and frankly looking at my kids makes me feel > like I am doing something wrong since they look so bad. Thanks > > Steph > > > > > > > > Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone > who knows. > > Answers - Check it out. > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 31, 2007 I did forget to mention that my 3 year old had dark eyes and we found out that it was from mold and mice. The apartment building we lived in had a mice infestation and the mouse droppings and urine was toxic. The mold as much as I tried to get rid of it was so ingrained in the wood that it would just come back within the next day or two. Once the mice came and he kept a " cold " and dark swollen eyes we moved. I have not had an issue since we left that build. So again, your doctor was so out of line with her assumption. , " Penny " <pennyfrench wrote: > > When I was taking my son to an allergist years ago, he said that those dark > circles under your eyes are very often a symptom of allergies. Not > necessarily to foods, but the seasonal types or allergies to animals and > such. I have them, both of my kids do too. We've never gone through any > testing to find out what we're allergic to, but that's what he told me. > > > > On Behalf Of Stephanie > Thursday, May 31, 2007 8:45 AM > > Re: O.T Raccoon Eyes > > I would be very interested in this too. My daughter has the same > under her eyes. My husband is worried, he says she looks like she > always has " black eyes " , like she was hit. I have noticed that since > I became vegetarian, I have them too. My husband says I look sick. > I feel fine but maybe something isn't right? > Stephanie > > , Steph <mrswalp29@> wrote: > > > > I know, I know I have already wrote about this but I am very > frustrated on this. My children have dark raccoon eyes they look > horrible. My girlfriend who is a vegan and have beautiful pale non- > raccoon eyed children swears by Barley Green and 1 T of brewer's > yeast each day. The problem is both of those are gross and my boys > won't touch it. I brought a one week diary to the nutritionist and > she said we eat better then most people and " maybe some people need > animal protein to ensure proper health " It puts a mom in a rough spot > so I thought I would ask yet again if anyone has anything they add in > their children's diets to prevent them from looking so ill. I am > sick of the comments and frankly looking at my kids makes me feel > like I am doing something wrong since they look so bad. Thanks > > Steph > > > > > > > > Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone > who knows. > > Answers - Check it out. > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 31, 2007 First thing I thought of was anemia. And you can always slip those things they don't want into a fruit smoothie - and give the smoothie like desert so it seems special and then it is more of a " treat " and they will start wanting them - just don't mention what the real ingredient is - I have actually used this technique on my husband before... And now that he has joined me eating healthier we " trick " his brother with veggie " meat replacement " items - he loves my breaded " chicken " sandwiches and has no idea!! (and he is an adult - but eats like a kid...) , akfral wrote: > > Oh, my anemia can contribute too.....maybe some more iron rich veggies? > > > > ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 31, 2007 Thanks Kat. I agree about the children running to fast for us to sit on them and force them to drink..lol Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Games. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 31, 2007 LaTara, Thanks so much. The boys and us do take whole food complete vitamins. I try to make sure all meals are balanced with a high iron food with Vitamin C sich as OJ or tomato sauce etc. They eat a lot of broccoli, spinach. I have tried to hide the brewer's yeast but I read somewhere that it loses it's power when cooked. Steph Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Auto Green Center. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
