Guest guest Posted April 19, 2005 Report Share Posted April 19, 2005 I can state that it is the same anywhere in this country. We have to take plastic to the supermarket car park five miles away. Recently the local council has started collecting glass and paper from our garden. We certainly don't get paid for any recycling - the councils have to be pushed to do anything. Jo > You get *paid* for recycling stuff... in the UK it's really hard to recycle, > and at best you don't get charged! I recycle as much as I possibly can, but > it basically means seperating every sort of material out, and then taking it > on a 10 mile drive to a recycling centre, to dump it off... unless you're > classified as a " business " , in which case you have to pay! (fortunately I'm > not a business!!!!) I sure wish they paid for the stuff in this country - > might encourage a few more people to recycle! > > BB > Peter > > > > > To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2005 Report Share Posted April 19, 2005 , " Lynda " <lurine@s...> wrote: > > Well, as a homesteader of several years, I can tell you that you might need > some money How did you startup in Homesteading ? What did you do before you started homesteading ? Does anyone in your family have prior experience in regards to farming/homesteading ? How about electricity, are you independent ? How about emergency medical ? Thanks. Vijay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2005 Report Share Posted April 19, 2005 Well, then, what about Belgium? I know folks living there that have bought acreage for not all that much money and manage to make a go of it without " regular " jobs. Of course, one would have to get used to protesters who close roads to make their politicians shape up and pay attention <g> Lynda - Peter <metalscarab > > Again, depends entirely on where you come from... this may well be the case > in the US, but in the UK rural land is the most expensive, and way out of > the reach of someone currently earning an ordinary salary who doesn't > already own property. > > BB > Peter > > > > > To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2005 Report Share Posted April 19, 2005 They pay, in CA, $1.25/pound for aluminum (soda type cans), 31 cents/pound for aluminum (like cat food cans), 80 cents/pound for plastic (soda bottle type), 13 cents/pound for other plastics that are numbered, 1.5 cents a pound for newspaper, they pay for glass and the type of combination cans that they have in China (aluminum and some other metal). The recycling centers will take regular paper (no plastic windows) and cardboard without charging. All glass has to be seperated by color. Magazines have to go into another pile. Plastic windows must be removed but the biodegradable can be left in (how the heck is one supposed to know?). We also have places where you can drop off things that are not garbage so that anyone else that needs them can take them (fridge, stove, furniture, paint, etc.). There is a big charge for computers, now. Big charges for anything that is considered hazardous waste. Big fines for throwing away (in regular garbage) batteries, spray cans, household chemicals. Lynda - Peter <metalscarab Monday, April 18, 2005 3:36 PM Re: Re: Should read " Endangered Rivers, was Raw Sewage in American Rivers > > Hi Lynda > > > Another example, we recycle, EVERYTHING. Last week we went to the new > > recycling center that we now have in town (a village to folks in some > parts > > of the world). We got enough money from recycling to buy 3 apple trees (2 > > Red Gravensteins, 1 Golden Delicious), an Early Italian prune, 6 grapes, > 20 > > strawberries, a lilac, a wisteria and a pony pack of black pansies. The > > last 3 weren't necessary, but we feel that one must also feed one's soul. > > You get *paid* for recycling stuff... in the UK it's really hard to recycle, > and at best you don't get charged! I recycle as much as I possibly can, but > it basically means seperating every sort of material out, and then taking it > on a 10 mile drive to a recycling centre, to dump it off... unless you're > classified as a " business " , in which case you have to pay! (fortunately I'm > not a business!!!!) I sure wish they paid for the stuff in this country - > might encourage a few more people to recycle! > > BB > Peter > > > > > To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2005 Report Share Posted April 19, 2005 Ah, but I bet you don't have to pay a deposit on those things. Soooooo much ended up in the dumps and on the sides of the roads that they started charging per bottle/can. Then the recycling places sell the aluminum back to the companies that make the cans. Might be a thought for a home business. Contact who makes aluminum cans for the sodas one buys in your country and see if you can sell the aluminum back to them. If recyclers here are paying $1.25 a pound, then they have to be getting twice that. I do know that the state does give them 77.5 cents a pound but the balance has to come from the manufacturers, so there would still be close to $2/pound to be made even if your country doesn't anti-up a %. Lynda - Jo Cwazy <heartwork Monday, April 18, 2005 4:03 PM Re: Re: Should read " Endangered Rivers, was Raw Sewage in American Rivers > > I can state that it is the same anywhere in this country. We have to take > plastic to the supermarket car park five miles away. Recently the local > council has started collecting glass and paper from our garden. We > certainly don't get paid for any recycling - the councils have to be pushed > to do anything. > Jo > > > You get *paid* for recycling stuff... in the UK it's really hard to > recycle, > > and at best you don't get charged! I recycle as much as I possibly can, > but > > it basically means seperating every sort of material out, and then taking > it > > on a 10 mile drive to a recycling centre, to dump it off... unless you're > > classified as a " business " , in which case you have to pay! (fortunately > I'm > > not a business!!!!) I sure wish they paid for the stuff in this country - > > might encourage a few more people to recycle! > > > > BB > > Peter > > > > > > > > > > To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2005 Report Share Posted April 19, 2005 Ah gee, on this list you don't really want to know <g> Suffice it to say that over the years we have had a lot of experience in various areas, some of them not p.c. here. Also, I spent a lot of time with my grandmother who did a lot of gardening but that was all before I was 10. I'm a book nut but don't spend a lot of time stressing over the " right " way to do things. I kind of go with the flow for gardening and use the no-till method because it seems more " humane " to both plants and soil. The county where I live has its own hydro-electric power plant but we are gradually working on converting some (maybe all with time) things to solar. We are also looking at trying hydro electric since our one creek runs 52 weeks of the year. We will be replacing our water heater with an on-demand system. We heat with wood, and it is all foraged (falls and dead trees in the surrounding national forest and not lived on land around us). As to medical, there is a sliding scale clinic in town/village. We do use a lot of herbals and grandma's recipes for health. I've stitched up cuts using fine fish line, have betadine on hand, steri-strips and so forth and so on. I'm referring to the not-p.c. part of my life, I am well equipped to take care of all the critters and have been doing most of my own vet work for about 35 years. Lynda - rvijay <rvijay07 Monday, April 18, 2005 4:09 PM > > How did you startup in Homesteading ? What did you do before you > started homesteading ? Does anyone in your family have prior > experience in regards to farming/homesteading ? How about electricity, > are you independent ? How about emergency medical ? > > Thanks. > > Vijay To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2005 Report Share Posted April 19, 2005 , " Lynda " <lurine@s...> wrote: > > I'm referring to the not-p.c. part of my life, I am well equipped to take > care of all the critters and have been doing most of my own vet work for > about 35 years. > > Lynda Are you a Vet or a Vet Technician ? How do you get access to Vet medicines ? Vijay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2005 Report Share Posted April 19, 2005 , " Lynda " <lurine@s...> wrote: > > Ah gee, on this list you don't really want to know <g> Suffice it to say > that over the years we have had a lot of experience in various areas, some > of them not p.c. here. > I am very glad you are on this list. There are not many Vegetarian/Vegan homesteaders. Most homesteading sites deal with a lot of info. on livestock/meat/poultry etc., Hope more Vegan/Vegtgie folks start homesteading. Vijay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2005 Report Share Posted April 19, 2005 Neither. You can buy most anything on the net. Lots of stuff at the local feed store. Used to buy using catelogs. Plus, it is a good idea to have a good working relationship with a local vet that isn't all hide bound with his own self-importance and recognizes that folks are able to care for their own animals. The old Tin God Syndrome is alive and well in the animal MD scene as well as the human MD scene. I've been lucky that I can usually find a vet who isn't in it strickly for the power trip or money. Lynda - rvijay <rvijay07 Tuesday, April 19, 2005 3:19 AM Re: Should read " Endangered Rivers, was Raw Sewage in American Rivers > > > , " Lynda " <lurine@s...> wrote: > > > > I'm referring to the not-p.c. part of my life, I am well equipped to > take > > care of all the critters and have been doing most of my own vet work for > > about 35 years. > > > > Lynda > > > Are you a Vet or a Vet Technician ? How do you get access to Vet > medicines ? > > Vijay To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2005 Report Share Posted April 19, 2005 How right you are Jo, my council has a roadside recycling policy, but the people operating it are less than wonderful. Any poly/plastics that arent bottle shaped get left in our crate- even though they are made out of the same material as the bottles?! cant figure that one out. Paper has to be news print, as they will not take cardboard, even though a lot of it states please recycle on it! The Valley Vgean......Jo Cwazy <heartwork wrote: I can state that it is the same anywhere in this country. We have to takeplastic to the supermarket car park five miles away. Recently the localcouncil has started collecting glass and paper from our garden. Wecertainly don't get paid for any recycling - the councils have to be pushedto do anything.Jo> You get *paid* for recycling stuff... in the UK it's really hard torecycle,> and at best you don't get charged! I recycle as much as I possibly can,but> it basically means seperating every sort of material out, and then takingit> on a 10 mile drive to a recycling centre, to dump it off... unless you're> classified as a "business", in which case you have to pay! (fortunatelyI'm> not a business!!!!) I sure wish they paid for the stuff in this country -> might encourage a few more people to recycle!>> BB> Peter>>>>> To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2005 Report Share Posted April 19, 2005 Peter, I assume that you have checked with your local council to see if they would start a kerbside recycling scheme? Mine started two years ago and provided green crates for people to put paper/plastics & glass in, which are collected fortnightly ( wish it was weekly). More and more people are using the scheme now , but not everyone has recycling as a priority unfortunately, as I only see about half of each street on average putting stuff out for recycling. The Valley Vegan.......how green is my valley.Peter <metalscarab wrote: Hi Lynda> Another example, we recycle, EVERYTHING. Last week we went to the new> recycling center that we now have in town (a village to folks in someparts> of the world). We got enough money from recycling to buy 3 apple trees (2> Red Gravensteins, 1 Golden Delicious), an Early Italian prune, 6 grapes,20> strawberries, a lilac, a wisteria and a pony pack of black pansies. The> last 3 weren't necessary, but we feel that one must also feed one's soul.You get *paid* for recycling stuff... in the UK it's really hard to recycle,and at best you don't get charged! I recycle as much as I possibly can, butit basically means seperating every sort of material out, and then taking iton a 10 mile drive to a recycling centre, to dump it off... unless you'reclassified as a "business", in which case you have to pay! (fortunately I'mnot a business!!!!) I sure wish they paid for the stuff in this country -might encourage a few more people to recycle!BBPeter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2005 Report Share Posted April 19, 2005 our recycling went from a couple different bins (one fer paper, one fer plastic, aluminum and glass) to one giant bin i guess they figured that a. no one was seperatin them anyways b. they had to seperate it all anyways at the plant... peter hurd Apr 19, 2005 9:44 AM Re: Re: Should read "Endangered Rivers, was Raw Sewage in American Rivers Peter, I assume that you have checked with your local council to see if they would start a kerbside recycling scheme? Mine started two years ago and provided green crates for people to put paper/plastics & glass in, which are collected fortnightly ( wish it was weekly). More and more people are using the scheme now , but not everyone has recycling as a priority unfortunately, as I only see about half of each street on average putting stuff out for recycling. The Valley Vegan.......how green is my valley.Peter <metalscarab wrote: Hi Lynda> Another example, we recycle, EVERYTHING. Last week we went to the new> recycling center that we now have in town (a village to folks in someparts> of the world). We got enough money from recycling to buy 3 apple trees (2> Red Gravensteins, 1 Golden Delicious), an Early Italian prune, 6 grapes,20> strawberries, a lilac, a wisteria and a pony pack of black pansies. The> last 3 weren't necessary, but we feel that one must also feed one's soul.You get *paid* for recycling stuff... in the UK it's really hard to recycle,and at best you don't get charged! I recycle as much as I possibly can, butit basically means seperating every sort of material out, and then taking iton a 10 mile drive to a recycling centre, to dump it off... unless you'reclassified as a "business", in which case you have to pay! (fortunately I'mnot a business!!!!) I sure wish they paid for the stuff in this country -might encourage a few more people to recycle!BBPeter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2005 Report Share Posted April 19, 2005 , " Lynda " <lurine@s...> wrote: > Neither. You can buy most anything on the net. Lots of stuff at the local > feed store. Used to buy using catelogs. Plus, it is a good idea to have a > good working relationship with a local vet that isn't all hide bound with > his own self-importance and recognizes that folks are able to care for their > own animals. The old Tin God Syndrome is alive and well in the animal MD > scene as well as the human MD scene. I've been lucky that I can usually > find a vet who isn't in it strickly for the power trip or money. > > Lynda Agreed ! You really are very fortunate in this regard. Vijay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2005 Report Share Posted April 19, 2005 Hi Lynda > Well, then, what about Belgium? I know folks living there that have bought > acreage for not all that much money and manage to make a go of it without > " regular " jobs. From a personal point of view.... 1. I don't know anyone in Belgium, and have a lot of friends in the UK 2. I don't have Belgian citizenship 3. I don't speak French or Flemish 4. I *like* living in England!!!! BB Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2005 Report Share Posted April 19, 2005 Hi Peter > I assume that you have checked with your local council to see if they would start a kerbside recycling scheme? Mine started > two years ago and provided green crates for people to put paper/plastics & glass in, which are collected fortnightly ( wish it > was weekly). More and more people are using the scheme now , but not everyone has recycling as a priority unfortunately, > as I only see about half of each street on average putting stuff out for recycling. Oh yes - they have a kerbside recycling scheme... but only for houses, not flats (and don't ask me, I don't understand the logic of that either)! I have a pretty good grasp of recycling facilities in Bristol, simply because I'm friends with the council's recycling officer - if I wasn't, I have no idea where I'd have found out about the recycling centres, because they don't make them known at all! BB Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2005 Report Share Posted April 19, 2005 Those points also apply to me with one addition - I'm not very young, and wouldn't be a welcome immigrant - well, not unless I was rich, anyway. Jo > From a personal point of view.... > > 1. I don't know anyone in Belgium, and have a lot of friends in the UK > > 2. I don't have Belgian citizenship > > 3. I don't speak French or Flemish > > 4. I *like* living in England!!!! > > BB > Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 if you do move t o belgium..send me beer.. thanx Jo Cwazy Apr 19, 2005 2:46 PM Re: Re: Should read "Endangered Rivers, was Raw Sewage in American Rivers Those points also apply to me with one addition - I'm not very young, andwouldn't be a welcome immigrant - well, not unless I was rich, anyway.Jo> From a personal point of view....>> 1. I don't know anyone in Belgium, and have a lot of friends in the UK>> 2. I don't have Belgian citizenship>> 3. I don't speak French or Flemish>> 4. I *like* living in England!!!!>> BB> PeterTo send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2005 Report Share Posted April 23, 2005 What is the difference with flats? a building is a building and all have kerbs? Scratches head? as long as the stuff is out the side of the road our council will pick it up. I would check again if I was you, or ask them why not. Makes no sense to me. Thought for the day: Real strength is about being able to break an enemy's resistance without the need for fighting. The Valley Vegan............Peter <metalscarab wrote: Hi Peter > I assume that you have checked with your local council to see if they would start a kerbside recycling scheme? Mine started > two years ago and provided green crates for people to put paper/plastics & glass in, which are collected fortnightly ( wish it > was weekly). More and more people are using the scheme now , but not everyone has recycling as a priority unfortunately, > as I only see about half of each street on average putting stuff out for recycling. Oh yes - they have a kerbside recycling scheme... but only for houses, not flats (and don't ask me, I don't understand the logic of that either)! I have a pretty good grasp of recycling facilities in Bristol, simply because I'm friends with the council's recycling officer - if I wasn't, I have no idea where I'd have found out about the recycling centres, because they don't make them known at all! BB PeterTo send an email to - Peter H Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2005 Report Share Posted April 23, 2005 Our crate is sorted on the lorry as it comes around, but the council do ask that you try and bag like items within the crate together to help them out. I just wish more people would use them. The council even give replacement crates free of charge ( someone pinched mine while I was at work?) The Valley Vegan........ It is faith that steers us through stormy seas, faith that moves mountains and faith that jumps across the ocean. She must be a busy girl that Faith?fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: our recycling went from a couple different bins (one fer paper, one fer plastic, aluminum and glass) to one giant bin i guess they figured that a. no one was seperatin them anyways b. they had to seperate it all anyways at the plant... peter hurd Apr 19, 2005 9:44 AM Re: Re: Should read "Endangered Rivers, was Raw Sewage in American Rivers Peter, I assume that you have checked with your local council to see if they would start a kerbside recycling scheme? Mine started two years ago and provided green crates for people to put paper/plastics & glass in, which are collected fortnightly ( wish it was weekly). More and more people are using the scheme now , but not everyone has recycling as a priority unfortunately, as I only see about half of each street on average putting stuff out for recycling. The Valley Vegan.......how green is my valley.Peter <metalscarab wrote: Hi Lynda> Another example, we recycle, EVERYTHING. Last week we went to the new> recycling center that we now have in town (a village to folks in someparts> of the world). We got enough money from recycling to buy 3 apple trees (2> Red Gravensteins, 1 Golden Delicious), an Early Italian prune, 6 grapes,20> strawberries, a lilac, a wisteria and a pony pack of black pansies. The> last 3 weren't necessary, but we feel that one must also feed one's soul.You get *paid* for recycling stuff... in the UK it's really hard to recycle,and at best you don't get charged! I recycle as much as I possibly can, butit basically means seperating every sort of material out, and then taking iton a 10 mile drive to a recycling centre, to dump it off... unless you'reclassified as a "business", in which case you have to pay! (fortunately I'mnot a business!!!!) I sure wish they paid for the stuff in this country -might encourage a few more people to recycle!BBPeter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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