Protein

[Guest guest]

We like oatmeal with apple and walnuts. That's our 'usual'. For Sunday brunch

I'll make scrambled tofu with peppers, onion, celery, potato, and spices.

 

Steph <mrswalp29 wrote: What is everyone's favorite way to

get protein in the morning? My personal favorite is a peanut butter bagel.

 

=^.^= Steph

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Regarding protein: Too much soy can interphere with thyroid function and absorption of other protein sources. I do find that the vegan movement actually underestimates the need for other protein sources though. Meat-eaters eat way too much protein but that does not mean that a vegan who is not consuming beans (sprouted or cooked) and grains/nuts/seeds cannot become deficient in amino acids. Deficits in amino acids can lead to a host of problems, particularly the body's ability to handles stress, since they form the basis for adrenal hormones. Without beans (sprouted or cooked) and grains or nuts/seeds, the amount of greens that one would have to eat to consume enough protein is enormous. Even doing that, one can fall short in the amino acid tryptophan, which is the precursor to serotonin.

Every body is different, some people thrive with less protein and others need more. So, reduce soy but make sure to get enough protein for adrenal function and your immune system. Also, nuts and seeds are important for healthy fats. We should be consuming flax seeds, hemp seeds, or chia seeds to get omega 3 fatty acids (and in some cases, algae supplements may be necessary if one's body does not convert to DHA/EPA efficiently). I interviewed a number of former vegans who went back to eating meat after suffering from energy deficits and cravings. This could have been avoided by meeting those needs prospectively with plant-based proteins and fats.

 

Beth Seligman, Certified Nutrition Educator--- On Fri, 6/5/09, Wynelle Ulrich <wynelleu wrote:

Wynelle Ulrich <wynelleuRE: Vegan Bone Health Date: Friday, June 5, 2009, 4:47 PM

 

 

 

 

Absolutely! … about dairy in the diet. After drinking a glass of cows’ milk, your body actually ends up in a net deficit of calcium due to the bones being the fastest resource for neutralizing the animal protein and that acid needs to be neutralized. The other item we sometimes fail to recognize is that often as vegetarians or vegans, we work so hard to “get enough protein†that we actually consume more protein than we should via tofu and soy products. Excess protein is very hard on our bones and calcium stores. Other acids that rob us are the more obvious ones, coffee, tea, soda … etc.

 

The “need for more protein†is a very, very dangerous story we’re being told. It’s cause for much disease.

 

 

Wynelle Ulrich

 

Perhaps artist Hans Hoffman said it best: “The ability to simplify means to eliminate the unnecessary so that the necessary may speak.†My question is: "And how, exactly, is that done?"

 

 

 

 

@ .com [] On Behalf Of Molly WheelerTuesday, June 02, 2009 4:20 PMmark (AT) markkurowski (DOT) com; @ .comRE: Vegan Bone Health

 

 

 

 

 

I was diagnosed with osteopenia when I was 28. I became a vegan shortly there after and within 2 years my bone loss was completely gone! This was done through a vegan diet with lots of veggies and fruits and I did not take any calcium supplements. The acid in dairy can actually hinder the absorption of calcium in our bodies. Removing dairy and getting our calcium from leafy greens and other vegan sources can actually be better in building bone than if we were to drink a bunch of milk! I don't claim to be the expert on this subject but I've learned a great deal both from the book the China Study and from my own personal experience. Thanks!Molly

 

 

 

@ .commark (AT) markkurowski (DOT) comTue, 2 Jun 2009 16:31:47 -0500Re: Vegan Bone Health

 

 

 

Hmmm, did that study take bone-stressing exercise into account? Mike Anderson in his Eating book (http://www.RAVEdiet .com) cites the research that seems to conclude that calcium is completely, absolutely irrelevant. The problem is lack of exercise, specifically a lack of running, jogging, walking (but not, e.g., swimming).In my humble opinion as a 20+ year athletic vegan, most vegans unfortunately are hippie-dippies when it comes to exercise. That is, we don't do it. I lift weights and swim 3x/week, and I hate running, but I force myself to run 6x/week. Vegans need to get off the couch.Cheers,--Mark

 

On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Jack Norris <jacknorris@spamarre st.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 

Vegans are not protected by virtue of not eating animal protein, and they should make sure they get 525 mg of calcium, at the very least, each day. I recommend 700 - 1,000 mg for adults, and at least 1,000 mg for teenagers.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Avocadoes

Prunes

Cauliflower

Brussel Sprouts

Spinach

Mushrooms

peas

broccoli

asparagus

okra

corn

and of course beans beans beans

cyn Mar 7, 2010 11:37 AM Protein

 

 

 

Got a question-need a lot of suggestions of fruits and vegetables that are VERY HIGH in protein. CANNOT eat the coarser, more fibrous vegetables raw (bowel disease from cancer surgeries). Thanks! CynSent via BlackBerry by AT & T

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Quinoa, lentils.

 

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" cyn " <cyn84074

Sun, 7 Mar 2010 16:37:38

 

Protein

 

Got a question-need a lot of suggestions of fruits and vegetables that are VERY

HIGH in protein. CANNOT eat the coarser, more fibrous vegetables raw (bowel

disease from cancer surgeries). Thanks!

Cyn

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Thanks, fragmeister! CynSent via BlackBerry by AT&T fraggle <EBbrewpunxSun, 7 Mar 2010 13:28:05 -0500 (EST)Re: Protein AvocadoesPrunesCauliflowerBrussel SproutsSpinachMushroomspeasbroccoliasparagusokracornand of course beans beans beans cyn Mar 7, 2010 11:37 AM Protein Got a question-need a lot of suggestions of fruits and vegetables that are VERY HIGH in protein. CANNOT eat the coarser, more fibrous vegetables raw (bowel disease from cancer surgeries). Thanks! CynSent via BlackBerry by AT & T

 

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Quinoa? Refresh my memory, thanks. CynSent via BlackBerry by AT&T bluerose156Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 18:31:09 +0000Re: Protein Quinoa, lentils.Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry " cyn " <cyn84074 (AT) aol (DOT) com>Sun, 7 Mar 2010 16:37:38 ProteinGot a question-need a lot of suggestions of fruits and vegetables that are VERY HIGH in protein. CANNOT eat the coarser, more fibrous vegetables raw (bowel disease from cancer surgeries). Thanks! CynSent via BlackBerry by AT & T---To send an email to -

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small cereal grain from South America

cyn Mar 7, 2010 2:03 PM Re: Protein

 

 

 

Quinoa? Refresh my memory, thanks. Cyn

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Sun, 7 Mar 2010 18:31:09 +0000

 

Re: Protein

Quinoa, lentils. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry "cyn" <cyn84074 (AT) aol (DOT) com> Sun, 7 Mar 2010 16:37:38 Protein Got a question-need a lot of suggestions of fruits and vegetables that are VERY HIGH in protein. CANNOT eat the coarser, more fibrous vegetables raw (bowel disease from cancer surgeries). Thanks! Cyn Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T --- To send an email to -

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It's a grain, non-wheat. Good source of iron, too. It's kinda like couscous.Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry "cyn" <cyn84074Sun, 7 Mar 2010 19:03:12 +0000Re: ProteinQuinoa? Refresh my memory, thanks. CynSent via BlackBerry by AT&T bluerose156Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 18:31:09 +0000Re: Protein Quinoa, lentils.Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry " cyn " <cyn84074 (AT) aol (DOT) com>Sun, 7 Mar 2010 16:37:38 ProteinGot a question-need a lot of suggestions of fruits and vegetables that are VERY HIGH in protein. CANNOT eat the coarser, more fibrous vegetables raw (bowel disease from cancer surgeries). Thanks! CynSent via BlackBerry by AT & T---To send an email to -

[Guest guest]

Actually, quinoa and buckwheat are used like grains, but are not

grains.

 

Technically, that means they are not in the grass family, which

includes wheat, corn, rye, oats, barley, millet, sugarcane, bamboo,

teff, sorghum, lemongrass, and most lawn grasses.

 

Quinoa is in the same family as beets and chard.*

 

Buckwheat is in the same plant family as rhubarb and

sorrel.*

 

I think about this kind of thing a lot because I'm interested in

growing and eating unusual plants.

 

*(or at least they were in those families a decade ago, before

molecular biology came along and reshuffled who's related to

whom)

 

At 7:47 PM +0000 3/7/10, bluerose156 wrote:

It's a grain, non-wheat. Good source of iron, too. It's kinda

like couscous.

 

" cyn " <cyn84074

Quinoa? Refresh my memory, thanks. Cyn

 

bluerose156

Quinoa, lentils.

 

 

" cyn " <cyn84074

 

Got a question-need a lot of suggestions of fruits and vegetables

that are VERY HIGH in protein. CANNOT eat the coarser, more fibrous

vegetables raw (bowel disease from cancer surgeries). Thanks!

[Guest guest]

.....and don't forget lentils and nuts.

 

Jo

[Guest guest]

Hello All,

I adore this group! At the end of last year I discovered (after many, many

medical tests) that I am gluten intolerant. I also, after the first of the year

am vegetarian again. The first week of eliminating both foods I was completely

without energy. I have discovered tons of good things to eat but.....I need more

protein! I am not getting anywhere near what my daily allowance of protein

should be. I welcome any and all suggestions!

[Guest guest]

Make over dishes that you would have made with vegetarian meats with

beans/lentils instead. Make your own veggie burgers. Quinoa is also high

in protein. I don't know whether you can use soy or not; tofu and edamame

are nice additions if you can tolerate them. Add tofu/white beans to your

smoothies/shakes. Incorporate nuts with nut loaf/burgers, nut milks,

sprinkling them on your fruit/cereal, etc.

 

Pam

 

On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 1:49 PM, sliid <shelley_reed wrote:

 

>

>

> Hello All,

> I adore this group! At the end of last year I discovered (after many, many

> medical tests) that I am gluten intolerant. I also, after the first of the

> year am vegetarian again. The first week of eliminating both foods I was

> completely without energy. I have discovered tons of good things to eat

> but.....I need more protein! I am not getting anywhere near what my daily

> allowance of protein should be. I welcome any and all suggestions!

>

>

>

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

What are you eating? Can you give a sample menu of a few days? Do you

require a high protein diet for health reasons or just the standard

recommended amount? There is protein in in everything and we actually

require a lot less than most people realize! If you just stopped eating meat

a few months ago, on top of going GF, your probably craving protein because

your body hasn't fully detoxed and adjusted to the change. Quinoa, Amaranth

and Hemp are good sources of protein and hemp is a complete protein and the

other two are close to being complete and are with some veggies mixed in!

You can buy them at any health food store and many regular grocery stores

are starting to carry these products as well. If you like smoothies, you can

throw in some hemp protein powder or hulled hemp seeds (a TBSP or 2) and

that will boost the protein for you. Quinoa can be used in place of rice or

cous cous in recipes and will give you a nice protein rich meal. I posted a

recipe for amaranth breadsticks a few weeks back if your craving bread, and

they are high in protein too!

 

On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 3:49 PM, sliid <shelley_reed wrote:

 

>

>

> Hello All,

> I adore this group! At the end of last year I discovered (after many, many

> medical tests) that I am gluten intolerant. I also, after the first of the

> year am vegetarian again. The first week of eliminating both foods I was

> completely without energy. I have discovered tons of good things to eat

> but.....I need more protein! I am not getting anywhere near what my daily

> allowance of protein should be. I welcome any and all suggestions!

>

>

>

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Shelley;

 

How much protein do you consider necessary as your daily allowance?

 

How are you calculating your intake?

 

Here is a informative article on this topic:

 

http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/protein.htm

 

Deborah

 

 

On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 3:49 PM, sliid <shelley_reed

<shelley_reed%40> > wrote:

> Hello All,

> I adore this group! At the end of last year I discovered (after many, many

> medical tests) that I am gluten intolerant. I also, after the first of the

> year am vegetarian again. The first week of eliminating both foods I was

> completely without energy. I have discovered tons of good things to eat

> but.....I need more protein! I am not getting anywhere near what my daily

> allowance of protein should be. I welcome any and all suggestions!

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

This is a good article. Do you know if kids would follow the same guidelines?

Thanks Karen

 

--- On Mon, 5/10/10, Deborah Pageau <dpageau wrote:

 

 

Deborah Pageau <dpageau

RE: Protein

 

Monday, May 10, 2010, 2:22 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Shelley;

 

How much protein do you consider necessary as your daily allowance?

 

How are you calculating your intake?

 

Here is a informative article on this topic:

 

http://www.vrg. org/nutrition/ protein.htm

 

Deborah

 

On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 3:49 PM, sliid <shelley_reed@

<shelley_ reed%40. com> > wrote:

> Hello All,

> I adore this group! At the end of last year I discovered (after many, many

> medical tests) that I am gluten intolerant. I also, after the first of the

> year am vegetarian again. The first week of eliminating both foods I was

> completely without energy. I have discovered tons of good things to eat

> but.....I need more protein! I am not getting anywhere near what my daily

> allowance of protein should be. I welcome any and all suggestions!

 

 

[Guest guest]

Here’s their article specifically about feeding kids a vegan diet:

 

 

 

http://www.vrg.org/nutshell/kids.htm

 

 

 

Deborah

 

 

 

This is a good article. Do you know if kids would follow the same guidelines?

Thanks Karen

 

--- On Mon, 5/10/10, Deborah Pageau <dpageau

<dpageau%40dccnet.com> > wrote:

 

Deborah Pageau <dpageau <dpageau%40dccnet.com> >

RE: Protein

 

<%40>

Monday, May 10, 2010, 2:22 PM

 

 

 

Hi Shelley;

 

How much protein do you consider necessary as your daily allowance?

 

How are you calculating your intake?

 

Here is a informative article on this topic:

 

http://www.vrg. org/nutrition/ protein.htm

 

Deborah

 

On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 3:49 PM, sliid <shelley_reed@

<shelley_ reed%40. com> > wrote:

> Hello All,

> I adore this group! At the end of last year I discovered (after many, many

> medical tests) that I am gluten intolerant. I also, after the first of the

> year am vegetarian again. The first week of eliminating both foods I was

> completely without energy. I have discovered tons of good things to eat

> but.....I need more protein! I am not getting anywhere near what my daily

> allowance of protein should be. I welcome any and all suggestions!

 

 

[Guest guest]

Thank you so much. Karen

 

--- On Mon, 5/10/10, Deborah Pageau <dpageau wrote:

 

 

Deborah Pageau <dpageau

RE: Protein

 

Monday, May 10, 2010, 7:09 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Here’s their article specifically about feeding kids a vegan diet:

 

http://www.vrg. org/nutshell/ kids.htm

 

Deborah

 

This is a good article. Do you know if kids would follow the same guidelines?

Thanks Karen

 

--- On Mon, 5/10/10, Deborah Pageau <dpageau (AT) dccnet (DOT) com <dpageau%

40dccnet. com> > wrote:

 

Deborah Pageau <dpageau (AT) dccnet (DOT) com <dpageau% 40dccnet. com> >

RE: [Vegan-and-Gluten- Free] Protein

Vegan-and-Gluten- Free@ .com <Vegan- and-Gluten-

Free%40grou ps.com>

Monday, May 10, 2010, 2:22 PM

 

Hi Shelley;

 

How much protein do you consider necessary as your daily allowance?

 

How are you calculating your intake?

 

Here is a informative article on this topic:

 

http://www.vrg. org/nutrition/ protein.htm

 

Deborah

 

On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 3:49 PM, sliid <shelley_reed@

<shelley_ reed%40. com> > wrote:

> Hello All,

> I adore this group! At the end of last year I discovered (after many, many

> medical tests) that I am gluten intolerant. I also, after the first of the

> year am vegetarian again. The first week of eliminating both foods I was

> completely without energy. I have discovered tons of good things to eat

> but.....I need more protein! I am not getting anywhere near what my daily

> allowance of protein should be. I welcome any and all suggestions!

 

 

[Guest guest]

This article was extremely helpful! Thank you Deborah! It is good to know that I

am getting enough protein (I have been given the wrong impression about the

amount I need, this happened when I became pregnant 16 years ago - I was told to

eat meat) and I have been given even more suggestions now. I love to cook and

want food to be a way to spread the joy of living with my family and so many

vegan friends of mine just don't put effort into meals. They settle for a cup of

soy yogurt and an apple for dinner. I am still new to this cooking but I have

collected and enjoyed bunches of recipes because of this group. Thank you guys -

Shelley

 

, Deborah Pageau <dpageau

wrote:

>

> Hi Shelley;

>

> How much protein do you consider necessary as your daily allowance?

>

> How are you calculating your intake?

>

> Here is a informative article on this topic:

>

> http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/protein.htm

>

> Deborah

>

>

> On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 3:49 PM, sliid <shelley_reed

> <shelley_reed%40> > wrote:

> > Hello All,

> > I adore this group! At the end of last year I discovered (after many, many

> > medical tests) that I am gluten intolerant. I also, after the first of the

> > year am vegetarian again. The first week of eliminating both foods I was

> > completely without energy. I have discovered tons of good things to eat

> > but.....I need more protein! I am not getting anywhere near what my daily

> > allowance of protein should be. I welcome any and all suggestions!

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

You are very welcome Shelley. I'm so glad you are open to this information!

Regrettably, misinformation about amino acid needs (the building blocks of

protein) is a very common problem in our society.

 

 

 

According to the research of Dr. John McDougall, the problem began in the

1940s when Dr. William Rose did the first amino acid experiments using rats

and assumed that the results applied to humans. Rats, like cats, need meat

to thrive (certain amino acids are only found in animal products). It was

10 years later before he did the experiment on humans. They proved that

human amino acid needs are easily be met by a vegan diet. However, 10 years

of believing that humans had the same needs as rats had created a hold in

society.

 

 

 

I guess it's all part of human living-and-learning. Historically, humans

have done many wasteful things like burning wise women as witches,

blood-letting for every ailment etc. It's only natural for humans to make

mistakes and suffer in the course of trial-and-error as we learn about

ourselves as a specie. Thankfully " the truth will out " and gradually, as

each error comes to light, it is weeded out. Sadly, it can take many, even

hundreds of years of suffering before enough information is gathered, but we

ARE getting there! This list proves that!

 

 

 

All the best, Deborah

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of sliid

May-11-10 11:00 AM

 

Re: Protein

 

 

 

 

 

This article was extremely helpful! Thank you Deborah! It is good to know

that I am getting enough protein (I have been given the wrong impression

about the amount I need, this happened when I became pregnant 16 years ago -

I was told to eat meat) and I have been given even more suggestions now. I

love to cook and want food to be a way to spread the joy of living with my

family and so many vegan friends of mine just don't put effort into meals.

They settle for a cup of soy yogurt and an apple for dinner. I am still new

to this cooking but I have collected and enjoyed bunches of recipes because

of this group. Thank you guys - Shelley

 

 

<%40> , Deborah Pageau

<dpageau wrote:

>

> Hi Shelley;

>

> How much protein do you consider necessary as your daily allowance?

>

> How are you calculating your intake?

>

> Here is a informative article on this topic:

>

> http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/protein.htm

>

> Deborah

>

>

> On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 3:49 PM, sliid <shelley_reed

> <shelley_reed%40> > wrote:

> > Hello All,

> > I adore this group! At the end of last year I discovered (after many,

many

> > medical tests) that I am gluten intolerant. I also, after the first of

the

> > year am vegetarian again. The first week of eliminating both foods I was

> > completely without energy. I have discovered tons of good things to eat

> > but.....I need more protein! I am not getting anywhere near what my

daily

> > allowance of protein should be. I welcome any and all suggestions!

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

, " sliid " <shelley_reed wrote:

>

> Hello All,

> I adore this group! At the end of last year I discovered (after many, many

medical tests) that I am gluten intolerant. I also, after the first of the year

am vegetarian again. The first week of eliminating both foods I was completely

without energy. I have discovered tons of good things to eat but.....I need more

protein! I am not getting anywhere near what my daily allowance of protein

should be. I welcome any and all suggestions!

>

 

Hi, Shelley,

Protein has always been a big issue for me, too. I have some GI tract issues,

and if I'm not getting enough protein, that's the first place it shows up -

usually inside of just a few days. So I actually keep a food diary, and

underline protein components - so I can make sure they " add up " in a 24- to

48-hr period. My refrain is " bean-nut-grain! " I learned that this diet would

NOT work for me if I didn't eat my legumes and my whole grains :-). And the

nuts and seeds can be 3 times a week, or so - but they're important, too.

 

I used to be CONVINCED that a vegan diet would NEVER work for me. But it was

the protein issue that always made it impossible. One day last Fall, I looked

at my food diary and realized that my last piece of animal protein had been NINE

days before. My digestion was FINE, and I really couldn't believe it! So I

looked carefully at what I was eating: a soymilk and fruit smoothie with

almonds for breakfast, and spaghetti with lentils and brown rice pasta for

dinner - (for several of those days). There it was - the bean-nut-grain combo.

So I kept it up, and was amazed when it worked out.

 

(My doctor ended up approving, too. He DID request that I eat 2 eggs a week.

So I do that for him. But otherwise, he has heartily approved of my vegan

diet.)

 

Years ago, when I was nursing my son - (who is now 28) - a good friend told me

how to make peanut butter balls. The basic ingredients are peanut butter - (or

another nut butter, if you wish), dried fruit, a protein powder of your choice,

and honey or Agave nectar to make it all stick together. To be truthful, I

haven't got an exact recipe. But this group might have one on file; OR, you can

find one by Googling " peanut butter protein balls. "

 

- Melissa F.

[Guest guest]

Hi Melissa;

 

That's VERY generous of you to take the risks of eating eggs just for the

sake of your doctor's peace of mind!

 

What are his reasons for thinking you need to eat eggs?

 

If you feel comfortable sharing, what are the GI tract issues that trouble

you?

 

I couldn't help but notice that the foods you favour (bean-nut-grain), while

indeed excellent sources of protein, are also calorie-dense. For this

reason, they are a necessary staple for anyone expending high levels of

energy like athletes and people who do physical work for a living. They also

provide a comforting sense of fullness in the stomach longer than fruit and

veggies because they take longer to digest. Many people need the experience

of fullness to convince them that they are getting a diet of sufficient

quality and quantity.

 

Deborah

 

 

 

Hi, Shelley,

Protein has always been a big issue for me, too. I have some GI tract

issues, and if I'm not getting enough protein, that's the first place it

shows up - usually inside of just a few days. So I actually keep a food

diary, and underline protein components - so I can make sure they " add up "

in a 24- to 48-hr period. My refrain is " bean-nut-grain! " I learned that

this diet would NOT work for me if I didn't eat my legumes and my whole

grains :-). And the nuts and seeds can be 3 times a week, or so - but

they're important, too.

 

I used to be CONVINCED that a vegan diet would NEVER work for me. But it was

the protein issue that always made it impossible. One day last Fall, I

looked at my food diary and realized that my last piece of animal protein

had been NINE days before. My digestion was FINE, and I really couldn't

believe it! So I looked carefully at what I was eating: a soymilk and fruit

smoothie with almonds for breakfast, and spaghetti with lentils and brown

rice pasta for dinner - (for several of those days). There it was - the

bean-nut-grain combo. So I kept it up, and was amazed when it worked out.

 

(My doctor ended up approving, too. He DID request that I eat 2 eggs a week.

So I do that for him. But otherwise, he has heartily approved of my vegan

diet.)

 

Years ago, when I was nursing my son - (who is now 28) - a good friend told

me how to make peanut butter balls. The basic ingredients are peanut butter

- (or another nut butter, if you wish), dried fruit, a protein powder of

your choice, and honey or Agave nectar to make it all stick together. To be

truthful, I haven't got an exact recipe. But this group might have one on

file; OR, you can find one by Googling " peanut butter protein balls. "

 

- Melissa F.

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

According to doctors (and most everyone I know) I don't eat enough food! On

top of no animal products, I eat no grain, no beans/legumes and no soy! I've

developed so many allergies that my diet is literally down to plants alone,

and there are plenty of them I can eat! The amount of food I consume in a

week probably wouldn't satisfy most people in a day! I have found that the

closer to nature my food is, the less I actually need! I consume hemp foods

as my main source of protein, and hemp is a complete protein!

Since having to eliminate all these foods and go on a pure, clean, natural

diet, my MS has gone into remission, I have not had any GI problems, and I

have no pain or symptoms associated with my chronic pancreatitis any more!

Migraines are no longer a problem! I don't suffer from PMS or chronic

fatigue or any of the problems that where unbearable at best for most of my

life! If seeing is believing, I can't deny the truth of how diet affects

health! And protein has never been a problem for me! I get a full blood work

panel done every year! My B12 has always been great too, even when I was

severely anemic, which is no longer a problem since giving up all grains!

hmmm....

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I'm glad you don't have trouble with protein. My kids do. My son just had a

blood test that showed his pre-albumin was low. I almost had the Ministry of

Children and Families on my case. His iron and iron stores were also remarkably

low. It was terrible.

 

So I've been working on it, but damn it's hard! Thank GOD he likes molasses.

 

Shannon

 

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2010-05-12

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Time: 2010-05-12, 20:12:51

Re: Re: Protein

 

 

 

 

>According to doctors (and most everyone I know) I don't eat enough food! On

>top of no animal products, I eat no grain, no beans/legumes and no soy! I've

>developed so many allergies that my diet is literally down to plants alone,

>and there are plenty of them I can eat! The amount of food I consume in a

>week probably wouldn't satisfy most people in a day! I have found that the

>closer to nature my food is, the less I actually need! I consume hemp foods

>as my main source of protein, and hemp is a complete protein!

>Since having to eliminate all these foods and go on a pure, clean, natural

>diet, my MS has gone into remission, I have not had any GI problems, and I

>have no pain or symptoms associated with my chronic pancreatitis any more!

>Migraines are no longer a problem! I don't suffer from PMS or chronic

>fatigue or any of the problems that where unbearable at best for most of my

>life! If seeing is believing, I can't deny the truth of how diet affects

>health! And protein has never been a problem for me! I get a full blood work

>panel done every year! My B12 has always been great too, even when I was

>severely anemic, which is no longer a problem since giving up all grains!

>hmmm....

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Jae;

 

I hope you are taking B12. If you aren't yet, please begin doing so.

 

Humans have been documented as living on stored B12 for years but when the

stores run out, the damage tends to be catastrophic and often, irreversible.

 

All vegans are well advised to take a B12 supplement.

 

Deborah

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Jae Jones

According to doctors (and most everyone I know) I don't eat enough food! On

top of no animal products, I eat no grain, no beans/legumes and no soy! I've

developed so many allergies that my diet is literally down to plants alone,

and there are plenty of them I can eat! The amount of food I consume in a

week probably wouldn't satisfy most people in a day! I have found that the

closer to nature my food is, the less I actually need! I consume hemp foods

as my main source of protein, and hemp is a complete protein!

Since having to eliminate all these foods and go on a pure, clean, natural

diet, my MS has gone into remission, I have not had any GI problems, and I

have no pain or symptoms associated with my chronic pancreatitis any more!

Migraines are no longer a problem! I don't suffer from PMS or chronic

fatigue or any of the problems that where unbearable at best for most of my

life! If seeing is believing, I can't deny the truth of how diet affects

health! And protein has never been a problem for me! I get a full blood work

panel done every year! My B12 has always been great too, even when I was

severely anemic, which is no longer a problem since giving up all grains!

hmmm....

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I do take B12 & am well aware of the need for it & health issues associated with

deficency, but thank you for your concern.

My main point is that you can be healthy (probably even more so) on a vegan diet

& get plenty of protein & other nutrients, regaurdless of what doctors say!

Doctors actually know very little about nutrition, so if your not sure and need

help or advise your better off seeking out someone who very knowledgeable about

vegan nutrition.

 

 

Deborah Pageau <dpageau

Thursday, May 13, 2010 12:01 AM

 

RE: Re: Protein

 

 

Hi Jae;

 

I hope you are taking B12. If you aren't yet, please begin doing so.

 

Humans have been documented as living on stored B12 for years but when the

stores run out, the damage tends to be catastrophic and often, irreversible.

 

All vegans are well advised to take a B12 supplement.

 

Deborah

 

On Behalf Of Jae Jones

According to doctors (and most everyone I know) I don't eat enough food! On

top of no animal products, I eat no grain, no beans/legumes and no soy! I've

developed so many allergies that my diet is literally down to plants alone,

and there are plenty of them I can eat! The amount of food I consume in a

week probably wouldn't satisfy most people in a day! I have found that the

closer to nature my food is, the less I actually need! I consume hemp foods

as my main source of protein, and hemp is a complete protein!

Since having to eliminate all these foods and go on a pure, clean, natural

diet, my MS has gone into remission, I have not had any GI problems, and I

have no pain or symptoms associated with my chronic pancreatitis any more!

Migraines are no longer a problem! I don't suffer from PMS or chronic

fatigue or any of the problems that where unbearable at best for most of my

life! If seeing is believing, I can't deny the truth of how diet affects

health! And protein has never been a problem for me! I get a full blood work

panel done every year! My B12 has always been great too, even when I was

severely anemic, which is no longer a problem since giving up all grains!

hmmm....