Protein

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does everything else have *enough* protein? how much protein are we s'posd

to get? my mother's worried that i don't get enough. anything you can tell

me is cool.

 

~Betsy

 

>Message: 5

> Fri, 3 Dec 1999 19:37:24 -0500

> " Chris Holifield " <unjust

 

>ummmm everything has protein in it except for fruit, so how can you have

>lack of protein? This is a concept that has puzzled me since I first

>started my vegetarian adventure about 5 years ago. Have you heard of

anyone

>dying from lack of protein? I don't think so.

>

>peace.

>chris

>

> " remember that meat is still murder..... and dairy is still rape "

 

 

~~Bets

Where in the nursery rhyme does it say Humpty Dumpty is an egg?

 

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My only suggestion would be to eat a variety of veggies and such healthy

stuff, and you won't really need to worry about protein. I think soy is a

source of protein, but I'm not sure. It depends upon your eating lifestyle.

If you are eating no variety whatsoever, then chances are you are getting

little of the protein you need. Variety is the key word here, I think, but

you know, the best thing would be to ask a doctor.

 

-Emmy

 

 

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>

>

>Re: protein

>Sat, 4 Dec 1999 16:33:15 -0600

>

>does everything else have *enough* protein? how much protein are we s'posd

>to get? my mother's worried that i don't get enough. anything you can tell

>me is cool.

>

>~Betsy

>

> >Message: 5

> > Fri, 3 Dec 1999 19:37:24 -0500

> > " Chris Holifield " <unjust

>

> >ummmm everything has protein in it except for fruit, so how can you have

> >lack of protein? This is a concept that has puzzled me since I first

> >started my vegetarian adventure about 5 years ago. Have you heard of

>anyone

> >dying from lack of protein? I don't think so.

> >

> >peace.

> >chris

> >

> > " remember that meat is still murder..... and dairy is still rape "

>

>

>~~Bets

>Where in the nursery rhyme does it say Humpty Dumpty is an egg?

>

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Betsy,

Sorry I don't have time to look up the chart - Mother's milk - the time in

our lives we need the most protein - is very low in protein. I wish I was

good at memory work! Anyway, most salads would provide you more protein

than MM. An avocado or a 1/4 cup of nuts is plenty of protein a day! When

I get more time I will type out that info. for you. Eat much of your diet

raw so you will get the enzymes and minerals you need.

Shelly

[Guest guest]

FYI ... it's not true that fruit doesn't provide protein. Using as my

source book the USDA's " Nutritive Value of American Foods " , I find for

example that an orange has 1.3 grams, a cup of sweet cherries has 2.3, a

cup of apricot halves has 1.6 and so forth. While these aren't huge

amounts, they certainly do add to the total day's protein RDA, just as

veggies and grains and legumes do. Juleen

 

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>

>Betsy,

>Sorry I don't have time to look up the chart - Mother's milk - the time in

>our lives we need the most protein - is very low in protein. I wish I was

>good at memory work! Anyway, most salads would provide you more protein

>than MM. An avocado or a 1/4 cup of nuts is plenty of protein a day! When

>I get more time I will type out that info. for you. Eat much of your diet

>raw so you will get the enzymes and minerals you need.

>Shelly

>

 

 

Shelly~

thanks so much!

i'm reasonably certain i get *way* more than that a day! yey. my mother

will be happy. thanks again!!

 

~

 

 

~~Bets

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As a vegeterian you get usually all the proteins you need from diary products.

You have to remember that most people eat to lot of proteins. You will not

probably get the same amount of proteins like before, but enough.

 

 

On Tue, 24 Jul 2001 18:05:42 -0400

Laura Schauble <schauble wrote:

 

I don't even worry about it. They say that if you eat you get enough

protein. I do eat a lot of soy products. Love Boca products and I eat soy

cheese. Having 'meatballs' for dinner tonight with ziti and veggies. I've

been a veggie almost 15 years also. I don't eat tofu either.

 

but does anybody have the same problem wondering how to

>vary their protein routine?

>

[Guest guest]

Lentils, beans of all kinds, including soya and its products, nuts, seeds, rice etc.

 

Jo

 

 

 

 

 

I was reading a health book this weekend and it stated that protein is good for your liver. What are good sources of protein for vegans? I wonder if I am eating enough .....

 

Thanks. Janey

x

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

almost everything has protein in it

but..if yer worried, tofu, soybeans, nuts, beans, peas are full of protein

leafy greens are really food because they have high protein along with

calcium...hihj protein tends to affect calcium levels in the body..also, watch

eatin lot of protein, as it will affect the kidneys

cheers

fraggle

" Janey " <janey wrote:

 

>I was reading a health book this weekend and it stated that protein is good

>for your liver.  What are good sources of protein for vegans?  I wonder if I

>am eating enough .....

>

>

>

>Thanks.  Janey

>

>x

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you for your energy Jenny.

 

Rich

 

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nonfat plain yogurt....oh wait, thats not vegan...soy beans, beans in general, lentils, and tofu, you can marinate it yourself.

 

 

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Suzanne

Tuesday, August 10, 2004 9:13 PM

protein

For those of you who are vegan (or eat a lot of vegan food), what are your primary protein sources? What things would you say are the cheapest? What easy recipes do you frequently use?I don't think that I've been getting enough protein during my pregnancy (supposed to be 80-100 grams/day), and I'd like to get more from veg sources. I eat eggs, dairy products, whole grain bread, occasional fish (shhhh, lol) and occasional meat replacement foods, like the Morningstar riblets. I'd probably eat those fake meats on a daily basis if I could get away with it, but that gets kind of expensive. I had the premarinated tofu once, which was pretty good, but also expensive, IIRC. I may resort to protein shakes once in a while...I just thought I'd see if there were any other options. ;)Suzanne

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[Guest guest]

Hi Lynne,

 

All fruits and vegetables have protein, and as long as a person is eating good

quantities of these, and a good variety, it is virtually impossible to have a

protein deficiency. The only time it is possible to not get enough protein is if

not enough calories are being consumed, and the body is starving. Just make sure

to eat when you are hungry, and don't skimp on serving sizes. Remember that

fresh, raw foods are more initially filling than cooked food, due to fiber and

water content. You probably will feel hungry sooner after eating a meal of raw

foods, than you do with cooked, due to the fact that raw has more bulk, and less

calories than a similar-sized cooked meal.

 

Anyway, it is not necessary to try to eat foods " high in protein " . Just eat a

well-balanced, and varied raw diet, and you will be fine

 

Christine

 

Lynne <niklyn wrote:

Hello Everyone - a question for you - protein - before raw we got our

protein from quorn products - but where does the main source of it come

from raw - I have read vegetables have some - broccolli is good - nuts too

obviously too - what quantities would have to be eaten to get all the

protein we need.

Thanks - we ate the " sludge " by the way - it really wasn't too bad! Thanks

for the other suggestions of how to use the ingredients - they would have

been much nicer even in their whole state really - I suppose I was trying to

invent - back to nature then pretty much!

Love Lynne

 

 

[Guest guest]

Yes, and so many people (even doctors who support healthy/veg

lifestyle) misunderstand how much protein one person needs on a

daily basis. This is what the RDA recommendation is for protein:

 

Protein recommendations are mainly based on the individuals body

weight. The protein RDA is high, to cover most person's needs. The

average requirement for protein is 0.6 grams per kilogram of body

weight; the RDA is 0.8 grams this is said to meet 97.5% of the

population's needs.

 

Looking at a chart I found, that averages about 47 grams for women

and 57 for men, which, as mentioned above, is high.

 

It is so easy to get that amount of protein based on a very diverse

diet of whole grains, legumes and lots of vegetables and even easier

if you're ovo-lacto.

 

Many people have " heard " of a specific amino acid only found in

flesh that the body requires and base their opinion on that.

 

 

, Kyrene Ariadne

<kyrene@g...> wrote:

>

> Yup. I've been told by others that you " have to " digest animal

> protein. Um, no you don't. lol Protein, yes. *Animal* protein,

no.

>

[Guest guest]

On 1/12/06, organic_homestead <organic_homestead wrote:

> Protein recommendations are mainly based on the individuals body

> weight. The protein RDA is high, to cover most person's needs. The

> average requirement for protein is 0.6 grams per kilogram of body

> weight; the RDA is 0.8 grams this is said to meet 97.5% of the

> population's needs.

 

Heh. I weigh in around 120/125, and I ignore *ALL* of the

requirements because if I ate their recommended " 2000 calories a day "

I'd weigh about 200 pounds. In fact, I used to weigh that much and

higher for a few years!

 

> It is so easy to get that amount of protein based on a very diverse

> diet of whole grains, legumes and lots of vegetables and even easier

> if you're ovo-lacto.

 

Not lacto, sadly. I love lacto but it doesn't lvoe me.

 

> Many people have " heard " of a specific amino acid only found in

> flesh that the body requires and base their opinion on that.

 

I wonder how made up that is? Probably pretty much made up.

[Guest guest]

-I have no idea how much I weigh..Do not own a scales. I wear a size

medium, or 12-14..Depends on the make of the clothes. I never diet .

Being a Vegetarian is my lifestyle. I love to eat, and enjoy

preparing differnt , fun and beautiful foods.

Smiles and hugs to you all.

Deanna

-- In , Kyrene Ariadne <kyrene@g...>

wrote:

>

> On 1/12/06, organic_homestead <organic_homestead> wrote:

> > Protein recommendations are mainly based on the individuals body

> > weight. The protein RDA is high, to cover most person's needs.

The

> > average requirement for protein is 0.6 grams per kilogram of

body

> > weight; the RDA is 0.8 grams this is said to meet 97.5% of the

> > population's needs.

>

> Heh. I weigh in around 120/125, and I ignore *ALL* of the

> requirements because if I ate their recommended " 2000 calories a

day "

> I'd weigh about 200 pounds. In fact, I used to weigh that much and

> higher for a few years!

>

> > It is so easy to get that amount of protein based on a very

diverse

> > diet of whole grains, legumes and lots of vegetables and even

easier

> > if you're ovo-lacto.

>

> Not lacto, sadly. I love lacto but it doesn't lvoe me.

>

> > Many people have " heard " of a specific amino acid only found in

> > flesh that the body requires and base their opinion on that.

>

> I wonder how made up that is? Probably pretty much made up.

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Deanna, (Devine one)

I am sorry I don't have any information for you. I just wanted to add

that I recently switched my daughter from milk based to soy formula, and

she is doing wonderfully. In fact, I notice positive differences that

may be associated to the switch, such as an easier night's sleep, and

more contentment, although this may not be contributed to the soy, but

it would be a heck of a coincidence.

 

Ron

 

 

-I have no idea how much I weigh..Do not own a scales. I wear a size

medium, or 12-14..Depends on the make of the clothes. I never diet .

Being a Vegetarian is my lifestyle. I love to eat, and enjoy

preparing differnt , fun and beautiful foods.

Smiles and hugs to you all.

Deanna

[Guest guest]

no meat, produce. it's hot in the summer. dogs are playful. day by

day, day by day, o dear lord, three things i pray... salad's good,

especially fruit salad. i only really like the taste of fruit, may as

well be a fruitarian, it seems the way to go. the way i was meant to

eat. there's cheese dip with garlic in the refrigerator, not for me.

i eat as often as i'm hungry, as much or as little as i want. i try

to keep it in some semblance of meals but my eating could look like a

lot of snacking. well, there's some freeflow, associative thought

ramblings for your subject. thanks for the material to post from, i

needed a meeting. it's always good to hear myself talk, it helps with

my commitment to raw. i belong to something! and there are other

people that i'm dealing with on this issue! thank you so much

everyone, i love all of you. i'm really jovial this morning, i must

still be raw, i must have woken up raw. if i wasn't i wouldn't be

here, i can tell you that. i'd be lonely and desperate in my food

haze, full of sadness and wouldn't be able to do anything but

isolate. are you feeling man. as long as i surrender to the will of

my god, i'll figure out how to live, what to say, and be alright in

general. peace out, rich. don't do anything i wouldn't do. that's a

double negative, what does it mean. i don't know, i can't figure it

out. boy, the thoughts just come out as fast as the fingers can fly,

don't they.

 

whatever happened to elchanon, i remember a lot of people on here

liked him for his advice.

 

rawfood , " Krissy " <gfoster wrote:

>

> Even if you think you need meat there are so many vegetarian

choices like smart choice brand " lunch meats " and " hot dogs " .

Morning star farms even puts out a copy cat of " steak strips " so

while you are transitioning to raw , these things might help you .

> Sometimes it's best to take it day by day instead of all at once.

>

> I have to say though Edame salad helps.............. just make a

lemon / olive oil dressing with salt , pepper and garlic and pour it

over the beans............. they make a good snack!!!

[Guest guest]

>>>So now that I've discovered that I am allergic to dairy, soy and

gluten - I am wondering how to get enough protein! I workout alot,

and need the protein for muscle recovery.

 

Sharon, you can get 'more than adequate' protein from: seeds and nuts;

gluten free grains such as teff, quinoa, millet, brown rice; and legumes

like pintos, kidney beans, black beans, lentils, split peas, etc. The

old-fashioned formula was to mix a whole grain and a legume at every meal,

thus creating a complete protein. That forumula is now outdated and

nutritionists are saying that as long as both types of foods are eaten

throughout the day, you'll get all your protein needs met just fine. And

that's even with leaving the seeds and nuts out --- and they are an

excellent source of protein!

 

I agree --- plant based, food sources are the best!

LaDonna

[Guest guest]

Sharon

 

Remember that everything has protein, some more some less. It isn't

absolutely necesssary to take animal proteins to have adequate as long as

you eat a variety of different plant proteins. You might want to look at

food combining to get a little better understanding of what is needed.

 

I agree with LaDonna, though, you can get more than adequate from seeds,

nuts, grains, pulses and beans. Don't forget that you can use these foods

in different forms and not just have to chomp down on some nuts - butters,

sauces, there are a variety of ways to prepare and serve.

 

One serving of nuts is between 8 and 11 indivual nuts (not including

peanuts) so it shouldn't be hard for your to get more than adequate.

 

BL

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Thank you for the good advice. I have been doing some research on food

combining, but am glad to hear that as long as you eat a combination

throughout the day, versus at one sitting, it is adequate. I have to be

careful how much beans and nuts I eat because they can upset my digestive

system fairly easily....but I know adzuki beans, and pinto beans are a bit

easier to digest - so I will lean toward those most often. I am probably

getting more protein than I realize and should not worry so much.

 

Thank you!

 

 

On 7/13/06, Brenda-Lee Olson <shalomaleichemacademy wrote:

>

> Sharon

>

> Remember that everything has protein, some more some less. It isn't

> absolutely necesssary to take animal proteins to have adequate as long as

> you eat a variety of different plant proteins. You might want to look at

> food combining to get a little better understanding of what is needed.

>

> I agree with LaDonna, though, you can get more than adequate from seeds,

> nuts, grains, pulses and beans. Don't forget that you can use these foods

> in different forms and not just have to chomp down on some nuts - butters,

> sauces, there are a variety of ways to prepare and serve.

>

> One serving of nuts is between 8 and 11 indivual nuts (not including

> peanuts) so it shouldn't be hard for your to get more than adequate.

>

> BL

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sharon, Besides using all the plant based proteins that LaDonna

mentioned, buckwheat is very helpful for your muscles, as are beans,

corn and chia seeds. Chia seeds can be purchased at health food

stores. They help with muscle strength. The recipe I use is as

follows: Soak 1 tsp chia seeds in 4 oz. juice for 2-3 hours and drink

3 to 4 times per day. When I drink the 1st, I put another on to soak,

put it in the fridge and do it again. Cheers!

[Guest guest]

I forgot also to mention hemp hearts which are not only a good protein but

also a source of essential fatty acids.

 

BL

 

On 7/13/06, candocook <candocook wrote:

>

> Sharon, Besides using all the plant based proteins that LaDonna

> mentioned, buckwheat is very helpful for your muscles, as are beans,

> corn and chia seeds. Chia seeds can be purchased at health food

> stores. They help with muscle strength. The recipe I use is as

> follows: Soak 1 tsp chia seeds in 4 oz. juice for 2-3 hours and drink

> 3 to 4 times per day. When I drink the 1st, I put another on to soak,

> put it in the fridge and do it again. Cheers!

>

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Thank you for the recommendation. I've never heard of chia seeds - but I

will look for them!

 

On 7/13/06, candocook <candocook wrote:

>

> Sharon, Besides using all the plant based proteins that LaDonna

> mentioned, buckwheat is very helpful for your muscles, as are beans,

> corn and chia seeds. Chia seeds can be purchased at health food

> stores. They help with muscle strength. The recipe I use is as

> follows: Soak 1 tsp chia seeds in 4 oz. juice for 2-3 hours and drink

> 3 to 4 times per day. When I drink the 1st, I put another on to soak,

> put it in the fridge and do it again. Cheers!

>

>

>

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

On Jul 14, 2006, at 11:17 AM, Sharon Cercone wrote:

 

> Thank you for the recommendation. I've never heard of chia seeds -

> but I

> will look for them!

 

 

I buy them at Latin/Mexican markets. They're pretty inexpensive and

great for chia pet refills.

 

Our local HFS do not carry chia seeds.

 

ygg

[Guest guest]

Try Red Star's Nutritional Yeast for protein as well for great source

of B12. Find it in most any health food store.

 

, " La Tea Dah "

<teacups wrote:

>

> >>>So now that I've discovered that I am allergic to dairy, soy and

> gluten - I am wondering how to get enough protein! I workout alot,

> and need the protein for muscle recovery.

>

> Sharon, you can get 'more than adequate' protein from: seeds and

nuts;

> gluten free grains such as teff, quinoa, millet, brown rice; and

legumes

> like pintos, kidney beans, black beans, lentils, split peas, etc.

The

> old-fashioned formula was to mix a whole grain and a legume at

every meal,

> thus creating a complete protein. That forumula is now outdated

and

> nutritionists are saying that as long as both types of foods are

eaten

> throughout the day, you'll get all your protein needs met just

fine. And

> that's even with leaving the seeds and nuts out --- and they are an

> excellent source of protein!

>

> I agree --- plant based, food sources are the best!

> LaDonna

>

[Guest guest]

At 04:03 PM 7/16/2006, you wrote:

 

>Try Red Star's Nutritional Yeast for protein as well for great source

>of B12. Find it in most any health food store.

 

I bought some of this, but I have no clue what to do with it. Ideas?

 

Shannon