Guest guest Report post Posted October 26, 2007 We like oatmeal with apple and walnuts. That's our 'usual'. For Sunday brunch I'll make scrambled tofu with peppers, onion, celery, potato, and spices. Steph <mrswalp29 wrote: What is everyone's favorite way to get protein in the morning? My personal favorite is a peanut butter bagel. =^.^= Steph Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 6, 2009 Regarding protein: Too much soy can interphere with thyroid function and absorption of other protein sources. I do find that the vegan movement actually underestimates the need for other protein sources though. Meat-eaters eat way too much protein but that does not mean that a vegan who is not consuming beans (sprouted or cooked) and grains/nuts/seeds cannot become deficient in amino acids. Deficits in amino acids can lead to a host of problems, particularly the body's ability to handles stress, since they form the basis for adrenal hormones. Without beans (sprouted or cooked) and grains or nuts/seeds, the amount of greens that one would have to eat to consume enough protein is enormous. Even doing that, one can fall short in the amino acid tryptophan, which is the precursor to serotonin. Every body is different, some people thrive with less protein and others need more. So, reduce soy but make sure to get enough protein for adrenal function and your immune system. Also, nuts and seeds are important for healthy fats. We should be consuming flax seeds, hemp seeds, or chia seeds to get omega 3 fatty acids (and in some cases, algae supplements may be necessary if one's body does not convert to DHA/EPA efficiently). I interviewed a number of former vegans who went back to eating meat after suffering from energy deficits and cravings. This could have been avoided by meeting those needs prospectively with plant-based proteins and fats. Beth Seligman, Certified Nutrition Educator--- On Fri, 6/5/09, Wynelle Ulrich <wynelleu wrote: Wynelle Ulrich <wynelleuRE: Vegan Bone Health Date: Friday, June 5, 2009, 4:47 PM Absolutely! … about dairy in the diet. After drinking a glass of cows’ milk, your body actually ends up in a net deficit of calcium due to the bones being the fastest resource for neutralizing the animal protein and that acid needs to be neutralized. The other item we sometimes fail to recognize is that often as vegetarians or vegans, we work so hard to “get enough protein†that we actually consume more protein than we should via tofu and soy products. Excess protein is very hard on our bones and calcium stores. Other acids that rob us are the more obvious ones, coffee, tea, soda … etc. The “need for more protein†is a very, very dangerous story we’re being told. It’s cause for much disease. Wynelle Ulrich Perhaps artist Hans Hoffman said it best: “The ability to simplify means to eliminate the unnecessary so that the necessary may speak.†My question is: "And how, exactly, is that done?" @ .com [] On Behalf Of Molly WheelerTuesday, June 02, 2009 4:20 PMmark (AT) markkurowski (DOT) com; @ .comRE: Vegan Bone Health I was diagnosed with osteopenia when I was 28. I became a vegan shortly there after and within 2 years my bone loss was completely gone! This was done through a vegan diet with lots of veggies and fruits and I did not take any calcium supplements. The acid in dairy can actually hinder the absorption of calcium in our bodies. Removing dairy and getting our calcium from leafy greens and other vegan sources can actually be better in building bone than if we were to drink a bunch of milk! I don't claim to be the expert on this subject but I've learned a great deal both from the book the China Study and from my own personal experience. Thanks!Molly @ .commark (AT) markkurowski (DOT) comTue, 2 Jun 2009 16:31:47 -0500Re: Vegan Bone Health Hmmm, did that study take bone-stressing exercise into account? Mike Anderson in his Eating book (http://www.RAVEdiet .com) cites the research that seems to conclude that calcium is completely, absolutely irrelevant. The problem is lack of exercise, specifically a lack of running, jogging, walking (but not, e.g., swimming).In my humble opinion as a 20+ year athletic vegan, most vegans unfortunately are hippie-dippies when it comes to exercise. That is, we don't do it. I lift weights and swim 3x/week, and I hate running, but I force myself to run 6x/week. Vegans need to get off the couch.Cheers,--Mark On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Jack Norris <jacknorris@spamarre st.com> wrote: Vegans are not protected by virtue of not eating animal protein, and they should make sure they get 525 mg of calcium, at the very least, each day. I recommend 700 - 1,000 mg for adults, and at least 1,000 mg for teenagers. Hotmail® has ever-growing storage! Don’t worry about storage limits. Check it out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 7, 2010 Avocadoes Prunes Cauliflower Brussel Sprouts Spinach Mushrooms peas broccoli asparagus okra corn and of course beans beans beans cyn Mar 7, 2010 11:37 AM Protein Got a question-need a lot of suggestions of fruits and vegetables that are VERY HIGH in protein. CANNOT eat the coarser, more fibrous vegetables raw (bowel disease from cancer surgeries). Thanks! CynSent via BlackBerry by AT & T You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 7, 2010 Quinoa, lentils. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry " cyn " <cyn84074 Sun, 7 Mar 2010 16:37:38 Protein Got a question-need a lot of suggestions of fruits and vegetables that are VERY HIGH in protein. CANNOT eat the coarser, more fibrous vegetables raw (bowel disease from cancer surgeries). Thanks! Cyn Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T --- To send an email to -! Groups Links Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 7, 2010 Thanks, fragmeister! CynSent via BlackBerry by AT&T fraggle <EBbrewpunxSun, 7 Mar 2010 13:28:05 -0500 (EST)Re: Protein AvocadoesPrunesCauliflowerBrussel SproutsSpinachMushroomspeasbroccoliasparagusokracornand of course beans beans beans cyn Mar 7, 2010 11:37 AM Protein Got a question-need a lot of suggestions of fruits and vegetables that are VERY HIGH in protein. CANNOT eat the coarser, more fibrous vegetables raw (bowel disease from cancer surgeries). Thanks! CynSent via BlackBerry by AT & T You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 7, 2010 Quinoa? Refresh my memory, thanks. CynSent via BlackBerry by AT&T bluerose156Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 18:31:09 +0000Re: Protein Quinoa, lentils.Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry " cyn " <cyn84074 (AT) aol (DOT) com>Sun, 7 Mar 2010 16:37:38 ProteinGot a question-need a lot of suggestions of fruits and vegetables that are VERY HIGH in protein. CANNOT eat the coarser, more fibrous vegetables raw (bowel disease from cancer surgeries). Thanks! CynSent via BlackBerry by AT & T---To send an email to - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 7, 2010 small cereal grain from South America cyn Mar 7, 2010 2:03 PM Re: Protein Quinoa? Refresh my memory, thanks. Cyn Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T bluerose156 Sun, 7 Mar 2010 18:31:09 +0000 Re: Protein Quinoa, lentils. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry "cyn" <cyn84074 (AT) aol (DOT) com> Sun, 7 Mar 2010 16:37:38 Protein Got a question-need a lot of suggestions of fruits and vegetables that are VERY HIGH in protein. CANNOT eat the coarser, more fibrous vegetables raw (bowel disease from cancer surgeries). Thanks! Cyn Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T --- To send an email to - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 7, 2010 It's a grain, non-wheat. Good source of iron, too. It's kinda like couscous.Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry "cyn" <cyn84074Sun, 7 Mar 2010 19:03:12 +0000Re: ProteinQuinoa? Refresh my memory, thanks. CynSent via BlackBerry by AT&T bluerose156Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 18:31:09 +0000Re: Protein Quinoa, lentils.Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry " cyn " <cyn84074 (AT) aol (DOT) com>Sun, 7 Mar 2010 16:37:38 ProteinGot a question-need a lot of suggestions of fruits and vegetables that are VERY HIGH in protein. CANNOT eat the coarser, more fibrous vegetables raw (bowel disease from cancer surgeries). Thanks! CynSent via BlackBerry by AT & T---To send an email to - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 7, 2010 Actually, quinoa and buckwheat are used like grains, but are not grains. Technically, that means they are not in the grass family, which includes wheat, corn, rye, oats, barley, millet, sugarcane, bamboo, teff, sorghum, lemongrass, and most lawn grasses. Quinoa is in the same family as beets and chard.* Buckwheat is in the same plant family as rhubarb and sorrel.* I think about this kind of thing a lot because I'm interested in growing and eating unusual plants. *(or at least they were in those families a decade ago, before molecular biology came along and reshuffled who's related to whom) At 7:47 PM +0000 3/7/10, bluerose156 wrote: It's a grain, non-wheat. Good source of iron, too. It's kinda like couscous. " cyn " <cyn84074 Quinoa? Refresh my memory, thanks. Cyn bluerose156 Quinoa, lentils. " cyn " <cyn84074 Got a question-need a lot of suggestions of fruits and vegetables that are VERY HIGH in protein. CANNOT eat the coarser, more fibrous vegetables raw (bowel disease from cancer surgeries). Thanks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 8, 2010 .....and don't forget lentils and nuts. Jo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 6, 2010 Hello All, I adore this group! At the end of last year I discovered (after many, many medical tests) that I am gluten intolerant. I also, after the first of the year am vegetarian again. The first week of eliminating both foods I was completely without energy. I have discovered tons of good things to eat but.....I need more protein! I am not getting anywhere near what my daily allowance of protein should be. I welcome any and all suggestions! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 10, 2010 Make over dishes that you would have made with vegetarian meats with beans/lentils instead. Make your own veggie burgers. Quinoa is also high in protein. I don't know whether you can use soy or not; tofu and edamame are nice additions if you can tolerate them. Add tofu/white beans to your smoothies/shakes. Incorporate nuts with nut loaf/burgers, nut milks, sprinkling them on your fruit/cereal, etc. Pam On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 1:49 PM, sliid <shelley_reed wrote: > > > Hello All, > I adore this group! At the end of last year I discovered (after many, many > medical tests) that I am gluten intolerant. I also, after the first of the > year am vegetarian again. The first week of eliminating both foods I was > completely without energy. I have discovered tons of good things to eat > but.....I need more protein! I am not getting anywhere near what my daily > allowance of protein should be. I welcome any and all suggestions! > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 10, 2010 What are you eating? Can you give a sample menu of a few days? Do you require a high protein diet for health reasons or just the standard recommended amount? There is protein in in everything and we actually require a lot less than most people realize! If you just stopped eating meat a few months ago, on top of going GF, your probably craving protein because your body hasn't fully detoxed and adjusted to the change. Quinoa, Amaranth and Hemp are good sources of protein and hemp is a complete protein and the other two are close to being complete and are with some veggies mixed in! You can buy them at any health food store and many regular grocery stores are starting to carry these products as well. If you like smoothies, you can throw in some hemp protein powder or hulled hemp seeds (a TBSP or 2) and that will boost the protein for you. Quinoa can be used in place of rice or cous cous in recipes and will give you a nice protein rich meal. I posted a recipe for amaranth breadsticks a few weeks back if your craving bread, and they are high in protein too! On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 3:49 PM, sliid <shelley_reed wrote: > > > Hello All, > I adore this group! At the end of last year I discovered (after many, many > medical tests) that I am gluten intolerant. I also, after the first of the > year am vegetarian again. The first week of eliminating both foods I was > completely without energy. I have discovered tons of good things to eat > but.....I need more protein! I am not getting anywhere near what my daily > allowance of protein should be. I welcome any and all suggestions! > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 10, 2010 Hi Shelley; How much protein do you consider necessary as your daily allowance? How are you calculating your intake? Here is a informative article on this topic: http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/protein.htm Deborah On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 3:49 PM, sliid <shelley_reed <shelley_reed%40> > wrote: > Hello All, > I adore this group! At the end of last year I discovered (after many, many > medical tests) that I am gluten intolerant. I also, after the first of the > year am vegetarian again. The first week of eliminating both foods I was > completely without energy. I have discovered tons of good things to eat > but.....I need more protein! I am not getting anywhere near what my daily > allowance of protein should be. I welcome any and all suggestions! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 10, 2010 This is a good article. Do you know if kids would follow the same guidelines? Thanks Karen --- On Mon, 5/10/10, Deborah Pageau <dpageau wrote: Deborah Pageau <dpageau RE: Protein Monday, May 10, 2010, 2:22 PM Â Hi Shelley; How much protein do you consider necessary as your daily allowance? How are you calculating your intake? Here is a informative article on this topic: http://www.vrg. org/nutrition/ protein.htm Deborah On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 3:49 PM, sliid <shelley_reed@ <shelley_ reed%40. com> > wrote: > Hello All, > I adore this group! At the end of last year I discovered (after many, many > medical tests) that I am gluten intolerant. I also, after the first of the > year am vegetarian again. The first week of eliminating both foods I was > completely without energy. I have discovered tons of good things to eat > but.....I need more protein! I am not getting anywhere near what my daily > allowance of protein should be. I welcome any and all suggestions! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 11, 2010 Here’s their article specifically about feeding kids a vegan diet: http://www.vrg.org/nutshell/kids.htm Deborah This is a good article. Do you know if kids would follow the same guidelines? Thanks Karen --- On Mon, 5/10/10, Deborah Pageau <dpageau <dpageau%40dccnet.com> > wrote: Deborah Pageau <dpageau <dpageau%40dccnet.com> > RE: Protein <%40> Monday, May 10, 2010, 2:22 PM Hi Shelley; How much protein do you consider necessary as your daily allowance? How are you calculating your intake? Here is a informative article on this topic: http://www.vrg. org/nutrition/ protein.htm Deborah On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 3:49 PM, sliid <shelley_reed@ <shelley_ reed%40. com> > wrote: > Hello All, > I adore this group! At the end of last year I discovered (after many, many > medical tests) that I am gluten intolerant. I also, after the first of the > year am vegetarian again. The first week of eliminating both foods I was > completely without energy. I have discovered tons of good things to eat > but.....I need more protein! I am not getting anywhere near what my daily > allowance of protein should be. I welcome any and all suggestions! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 11, 2010 Thank you so much. Karen --- On Mon, 5/10/10, Deborah Pageau <dpageau wrote: Deborah Pageau <dpageau RE: Protein Monday, May 10, 2010, 7:09 PM  Here’s their article specifically about feeding kids a vegan diet: http://www.vrg. org/nutshell/ kids.htm Deborah This is a good article. Do you know if kids would follow the same guidelines? Thanks Karen --- On Mon, 5/10/10, Deborah Pageau <dpageau (AT) dccnet (DOT) com <dpageau% 40dccnet. com> > wrote: Deborah Pageau <dpageau (AT) dccnet (DOT) com <dpageau% 40dccnet. com> > RE: [Vegan-and-Gluten- Free] Protein Vegan-and-Gluten- Free@ .com <Vegan- and-Gluten- Free%40grou ps.com> Monday, May 10, 2010, 2:22 PM Hi Shelley; How much protein do you consider necessary as your daily allowance? How are you calculating your intake? Here is a informative article on this topic: http://www.vrg. org/nutrition/ protein.htm Deborah On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 3:49 PM, sliid <shelley_reed@ <shelley_ reed%40. com> > wrote: > Hello All, > I adore this group! At the end of last year I discovered (after many, many > medical tests) that I am gluten intolerant. I also, after the first of the > year am vegetarian again. The first week of eliminating both foods I was > completely without energy. I have discovered tons of good things to eat > but.....I need more protein! I am not getting anywhere near what my daily > allowance of protein should be. I welcome any and all suggestions! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 11, 2010 This article was extremely helpful! Thank you Deborah! It is good to know that I am getting enough protein (I have been given the wrong impression about the amount I need, this happened when I became pregnant 16 years ago - I was told to eat meat) and I have been given even more suggestions now. I love to cook and want food to be a way to spread the joy of living with my family and so many vegan friends of mine just don't put effort into meals. They settle for a cup of soy yogurt and an apple for dinner. I am still new to this cooking but I have collected and enjoyed bunches of recipes because of this group. Thank you guys - Shelley , Deborah Pageau <dpageau wrote: > > Hi Shelley; > > How much protein do you consider necessary as your daily allowance? > > How are you calculating your intake? > > Here is a informative article on this topic: > > http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/protein.htm > > Deborah > > > On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 3:49 PM, sliid <shelley_reed > <shelley_reed%40> > wrote: > > Hello All, > > I adore this group! At the end of last year I discovered (after many, many > > medical tests) that I am gluten intolerant. I also, after the first of the > > year am vegetarian again. The first week of eliminating both foods I was > > completely without energy. I have discovered tons of good things to eat > > but.....I need more protein! I am not getting anywhere near what my daily > > allowance of protein should be. I welcome any and all suggestions! > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 12, 2010 You are very welcome Shelley. I'm so glad you are open to this information! Regrettably, misinformation about amino acid needs (the building blocks of protein) is a very common problem in our society. According to the research of Dr. John McDougall, the problem began in the 1940s when Dr. William Rose did the first amino acid experiments using rats and assumed that the results applied to humans. Rats, like cats, need meat to thrive (certain amino acids are only found in animal products). It was 10 years later before he did the experiment on humans. They proved that human amino acid needs are easily be met by a vegan diet. However, 10 years of believing that humans had the same needs as rats had created a hold in society. I guess it's all part of human living-and-learning. Historically, humans have done many wasteful things like burning wise women as witches, blood-letting for every ailment etc. It's only natural for humans to make mistakes and suffer in the course of trial-and-error as we learn about ourselves as a specie. Thankfully " the truth will out " and gradually, as each error comes to light, it is weeded out. Sadly, it can take many, even hundreds of years of suffering before enough information is gathered, but we ARE getting there! This list proves that! All the best, Deborah On Behalf Of sliid May-11-10 11:00 AM Re: Protein This article was extremely helpful! Thank you Deborah! It is good to know that I am getting enough protein (I have been given the wrong impression about the amount I need, this happened when I became pregnant 16 years ago - I was told to eat meat) and I have been given even more suggestions now. I love to cook and want food to be a way to spread the joy of living with my family and so many vegan friends of mine just don't put effort into meals. They settle for a cup of soy yogurt and an apple for dinner. I am still new to this cooking but I have collected and enjoyed bunches of recipes because of this group. Thank you guys - Shelley <%40> , Deborah Pageau <dpageau wrote: > > Hi Shelley; > > How much protein do you consider necessary as your daily allowance? > > How are you calculating your intake? > > Here is a informative article on this topic: > > http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/protein.htm > > Deborah > > > On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 3:49 PM, sliid <shelley_reed > <shelley_reed%40> > wrote: > > Hello All, > > I adore this group! At the end of last year I discovered (after many, many > > medical tests) that I am gluten intolerant. I also, after the first of the > > year am vegetarian again. The first week of eliminating both foods I was > > completely without energy. I have discovered tons of good things to eat > > but.....I need more protein! I am not getting anywhere near what my daily > > allowance of protein should be. I welcome any and all suggestions! > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 12, 2010 , " sliid " <shelley_reed wrote: > > Hello All, > I adore this group! At the end of last year I discovered (after many, many medical tests) that I am gluten intolerant. I also, after the first of the year am vegetarian again. The first week of eliminating both foods I was completely without energy. I have discovered tons of good things to eat but.....I need more protein! I am not getting anywhere near what my daily allowance of protein should be. I welcome any and all suggestions! > Hi, Shelley, Protein has always been a big issue for me, too. I have some GI tract issues, and if I'm not getting enough protein, that's the first place it shows up - usually inside of just a few days. So I actually keep a food diary, and underline protein components - so I can make sure they " add up " in a 24- to 48-hr period. My refrain is " bean-nut-grain! " I learned that this diet would NOT work for me if I didn't eat my legumes and my whole grains :-). And the nuts and seeds can be 3 times a week, or so - but they're important, too. I used to be CONVINCED that a vegan diet would NEVER work for me. But it was the protein issue that always made it impossible. One day last Fall, I looked at my food diary and realized that my last piece of animal protein had been NINE days before. My digestion was FINE, and I really couldn't believe it! So I looked carefully at what I was eating: a soymilk and fruit smoothie with almonds for breakfast, and spaghetti with lentils and brown rice pasta for dinner - (for several of those days). There it was - the bean-nut-grain combo. So I kept it up, and was amazed when it worked out. (My doctor ended up approving, too. He DID request that I eat 2 eggs a week. So I do that for him. But otherwise, he has heartily approved of my vegan diet.) Years ago, when I was nursing my son - (who is now 28) - a good friend told me how to make peanut butter balls. The basic ingredients are peanut butter - (or another nut butter, if you wish), dried fruit, a protein powder of your choice, and honey or Agave nectar to make it all stick together. To be truthful, I haven't got an exact recipe. But this group might have one on file; OR, you can find one by Googling " peanut butter protein balls. " - Melissa F. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 12, 2010 Hi Melissa; That's VERY generous of you to take the risks of eating eggs just for the sake of your doctor's peace of mind! What are his reasons for thinking you need to eat eggs? If you feel comfortable sharing, what are the GI tract issues that trouble you? I couldn't help but notice that the foods you favour (bean-nut-grain), while indeed excellent sources of protein, are also calorie-dense. For this reason, they are a necessary staple for anyone expending high levels of energy like athletes and people who do physical work for a living. They also provide a comforting sense of fullness in the stomach longer than fruit and veggies because they take longer to digest. Many people need the experience of fullness to convince them that they are getting a diet of sufficient quality and quantity. Deborah Hi, Shelley, Protein has always been a big issue for me, too. I have some GI tract issues, and if I'm not getting enough protein, that's the first place it shows up - usually inside of just a few days. So I actually keep a food diary, and underline protein components - so I can make sure they " add up " in a 24- to 48-hr period. My refrain is " bean-nut-grain! " I learned that this diet would NOT work for me if I didn't eat my legumes and my whole grains :-). And the nuts and seeds can be 3 times a week, or so - but they're important, too. I used to be CONVINCED that a vegan diet would NEVER work for me. But it was the protein issue that always made it impossible. One day last Fall, I looked at my food diary and realized that my last piece of animal protein had been NINE days before. My digestion was FINE, and I really couldn't believe it! So I looked carefully at what I was eating: a soymilk and fruit smoothie with almonds for breakfast, and spaghetti with lentils and brown rice pasta for dinner - (for several of those days). There it was - the bean-nut-grain combo. So I kept it up, and was amazed when it worked out. (My doctor ended up approving, too. He DID request that I eat 2 eggs a week. So I do that for him. But otherwise, he has heartily approved of my vegan diet.) Years ago, when I was nursing my son - (who is now 28) - a good friend told me how to make peanut butter balls. The basic ingredients are peanut butter - (or another nut butter, if you wish), dried fruit, a protein powder of your choice, and honey or Agave nectar to make it all stick together. To be truthful, I haven't got an exact recipe. But this group might have one on file; OR, you can find one by Googling " peanut butter protein balls. " - Melissa F. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 13, 2010 According to doctors (and most everyone I know) I don't eat enough food! On top of no animal products, I eat no grain, no beans/legumes and no soy! I've developed so many allergies that my diet is literally down to plants alone, and there are plenty of them I can eat! The amount of food I consume in a week probably wouldn't satisfy most people in a day! I have found that the closer to nature my food is, the less I actually need! I consume hemp foods as my main source of protein, and hemp is a complete protein! Since having to eliminate all these foods and go on a pure, clean, natural diet, my MS has gone into remission, I have not had any GI problems, and I have no pain or symptoms associated with my chronic pancreatitis any more! Migraines are no longer a problem! I don't suffer from PMS or chronic fatigue or any of the problems that where unbearable at best for most of my life! If seeing is believing, I can't deny the truth of how diet affects health! And protein has never been a problem for me! I get a full blood work panel done every year! My B12 has always been great too, even when I was severely anemic, which is no longer a problem since giving up all grains! hmmm.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 13, 2010 I'm glad you don't have trouble with protein. My kids do. My son just had a blood test that showed his pre-albumin was low. I almost had the Ministry of Children and Families on my case. His iron and iron stores were also remarkably low. It was terrible. So I've been working on it, but damn it's hard! Thank GOD he likes molasses. Shannon Shannon West, shanwest 2010-05-12 ----- Receiving the following content ----- Jae Jones Receiver: Time: 2010-05-12, 20:12:51 Re: Re: Protein >According to doctors (and most everyone I know) I don't eat enough food! On >top of no animal products, I eat no grain, no beans/legumes and no soy! I've >developed so many allergies that my diet is literally down to plants alone, >and there are plenty of them I can eat! The amount of food I consume in a >week probably wouldn't satisfy most people in a day! I have found that the >closer to nature my food is, the less I actually need! I consume hemp foods >as my main source of protein, and hemp is a complete protein! >Since having to eliminate all these foods and go on a pure, clean, natural >diet, my MS has gone into remission, I have not had any GI problems, and I >have no pain or symptoms associated with my chronic pancreatitis any more! >Migraines are no longer a problem! I don't suffer from PMS or chronic >fatigue or any of the problems that where unbearable at best for most of my >life! If seeing is believing, I can't deny the truth of how diet affects >health! And protein has never been a problem for me! I get a full blood work >panel done every year! My B12 has always been great too, even when I was >severely anemic, which is no longer a problem since giving up all grains! >hmmm.... > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 13, 2010 Hi Jae; I hope you are taking B12. If you aren't yet, please begin doing so. Humans have been documented as living on stored B12 for years but when the stores run out, the damage tends to be catastrophic and often, irreversible. All vegans are well advised to take a B12 supplement. Deborah On Behalf Of Jae Jones According to doctors (and most everyone I know) I don't eat enough food! On top of no animal products, I eat no grain, no beans/legumes and no soy! I've developed so many allergies that my diet is literally down to plants alone, and there are plenty of them I can eat! The amount of food I consume in a week probably wouldn't satisfy most people in a day! I have found that the closer to nature my food is, the less I actually need! I consume hemp foods as my main source of protein, and hemp is a complete protein! Since having to eliminate all these foods and go on a pure, clean, natural diet, my MS has gone into remission, I have not had any GI problems, and I have no pain or symptoms associated with my chronic pancreatitis any more! Migraines are no longer a problem! I don't suffer from PMS or chronic fatigue or any of the problems that where unbearable at best for most of my life! If seeing is believing, I can't deny the truth of how diet affects health! And protein has never been a problem for me! I get a full blood work panel done every year! My B12 has always been great too, even when I was severely anemic, which is no longer a problem since giving up all grains! hmmm.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 13, 2010 I do take B12 & am well aware of the need for it & health issues associated with deficency, but thank you for your concern. My main point is that you can be healthy (probably even more so) on a vegan diet & get plenty of protein & other nutrients, regaurdless of what doctors say! Doctors actually know very little about nutrition, so if your not sure and need help or advise your better off seeking out someone who very knowledgeable about vegan nutrition. Deborah Pageau <dpageau Thursday, May 13, 2010 12:01 AM RE: Re: Protein Hi Jae; I hope you are taking B12. If you aren't yet, please begin doing so. Humans have been documented as living on stored B12 for years but when the stores run out, the damage tends to be catastrophic and often, irreversible. All vegans are well advised to take a B12 supplement. Deborah On Behalf Of Jae Jones According to doctors (and most everyone I know) I don't eat enough food! On top of no animal products, I eat no grain, no beans/legumes and no soy! I've developed so many allergies that my diet is literally down to plants alone, and there are plenty of them I can eat! The amount of food I consume in a week probably wouldn't satisfy most people in a day! I have found that the closer to nature my food is, the less I actually need! I consume hemp foods as my main source of protein, and hemp is a complete protein! Since having to eliminate all these foods and go on a pure, clean, natural diet, my MS has gone into remission, I have not had any GI problems, and I have no pain or symptoms associated with my chronic pancreatitis any more! Migraines are no longer a problem! I don't suffer from PMS or chronic fatigue or any of the problems that where unbearable at best for most of my life! If seeing is believing, I can't deny the truth of how diet affects health! And protein has never been a problem for me! I get a full blood work panel done every year! My B12 has always been great too, even when I was severely anemic, which is no longer a problem since giving up all grains! hmmm.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites