Guest guest Report post Posted October 7, 2000 I have 2 friends who are allergic to soy :/ makes life tough! *hugs* Xanthia juliejulz wrote: > > _vegetarian writes: > > << ,esp for those who are soy-sensitive! >> > > I have never heard of this. is there really such a thing? Soy seams so easy > to digest and healthy. > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 7, 2000 a lot of people have allergies to soy, or already get way too much of it in their diets. Some people are sensitive to the high levels of isoflavins as well. - <juliejulz Saturday, October 07, 2000 1:00 PM SOY > _vegetarian writes: > > << ,esp for those who are soy-sensitive! >> > > I have never heard of this. is there really such a thing? Soy seams so easy > to digest and healthy. > > > contact owner: -owner > Mail list: > Delivered-mailing list > List-Un: - > > no flaming arguing or denigration of others allowed > contact owner with complaints regarding posting/list > or anything else. Thank you. > please share/comment/inform and mostly enjoy this list > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 8, 2000 At 07:34 08.10.00 +0000, you wrote: ><< ,esp for those who are soy-sensitive! >> > >I have never heard of this. is there really such a thing? Soy seams so easy >to digest and healthy. According to the best information I have available, about half of all the people who are allergic to dairy are also allergic to soy. This has nothing to do with " easy to digest " or " healthy " ; allergies are when the body basically overreacts to (what should be) a normal food. As for dairy sensitivities and cheese, some people who cannot tolerate milk, soft cheeses, etc. *can* have hard cheese and/or yogurt. The bacteria that create the food partially digest the dairy making it easier on the body...for some people. Brandel Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 5, 2001 , " Caroline " <caroline@c...> wrote: > Okay guys...here are a few articles to read about soy...they really got me thinking...but as with everything in life...you can take it seriously...or not...it is a matter of choice...because everyone has their own opinion...and everyone is definitely entitled to it!! ) > > Gerson Institute on Soy > > http://www.gerson.org/healing/articles/nl_soytoogood.htm > > Thyroid > > http://thyroid.about.com/health/thyroid/library/weekly/aa083099.htm > > SOS - Soy Online Service > http://thyroid.about.com/health/thyroid/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm? site=http://www.soyonlineservice.co.nz/ > > I would love to hear your thoughts! > Caroline Regarding the Soy Online Service website... From what I understand, the woman who runs it used to work for the American Dairy Association, or something like that. I think that the both the Meat & the Dairy industry has a lot at stake in making Soy look bad. I'm not saying that people should ignore the possibility, but I am saying that they should take it with a grain of salt. Besides, I also understand there's a difference between eating things like Tofu & Tempeh, and eating Toffutti and such. The More processed the Soy is when you eat it, the less good it's going to be for you. As in all things, a good degree of moderation will probably protect you from any serious problems regarding 'health problems' from soy. Love & Light, Stephanie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 5, 2001 I don't necessarily agree that opinion that only infants who cannot have dairy should have soy based formula. My daughter is now 9 months old and has been on soy based formula since she was about 3 months (since I was unable to produce milk). Even though we are more like cows then soy beans, I don't agree that dairy based formulas are closer to mother's milk. We feed our daughter has two different formulas - one is a pre-manufactured soy based formula, and the other I make for her from a soy base (with different yummy nutrients in it). Each contains the nutrients that she needs to develop, even the fat for brain development. As she gets older her intake of soy will become less, since it will not be her source of calories each day. Our doctor also never saw a problem (and we asked) with the soy based formulas, and he didn't feel that the dairy based formulas were any better. We also have other friends who raised their children on a soy based formula and their children are fine (ages 18,15,12, 8, & 4). We have choose to go with a soy base because it is so hard for infants to digest dairy. I don't want other parents worried about having their babies on soy based formulas, because of bad media about soy. I hope what I wrote is clear and I haven't offended anyone, I just wanted to put in my opinion on this topic. Thank you Judie Jacqueline [jacq]Thursday, July 05, 2001 12:01 PM Subject: Soy Stephanie, I agree about moderation. We all eat soy in my household. I think the concern for me would be babies who are on soy formulas as that is their only food for 6mos. Breastmilk is best for babies but if you are using formula a dairy based formula is closer to mother's milk than a soy one. Makes sense since we are more like cows than soy beans right? LOL Soy formula should be reserved for babies who can neither have mother's milk or cow's milk formula but I think a lot of people took the information about formula not being as good for babies and decided that meant soy was better. And yes I know about the problems with dairy farming, etc. I'm just talking from a nutritional standpoint for infants. Jacqueline Regarding the Soy Online Service website... From what I understand, the woman who runs it used to work for the American Dairy Association, or something like that. I think that the both the Meat & the Dairy industry has a lot at stake in making Soy look bad. I'm not saying that people should ignore the possibility, but I am saying that they should take it with a grain of salt. Besides, I also understand there's a difference between eating things like Tofu & Tempeh, and eating Toffutti and such. The More processed the Soy is when you eat it, the less good it's going to be for you. As in all things, a good degree of moderation will probably protect you from any serious problems regarding 'health problems' from soy. Love & Light,Stephaniecontact owner: -owner Mail list: Delivered-mailing list List-Un: - no flaming arguing or denigration of others allowedcontact owner with complaints regarding posting/list or anything else. Thank you.please share/comment/inform and mostly enjoy this list Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 5, 2001 Formula is usually dairy based and soy based formulas were later developed for babies who couldn't tolerate the dairy formulas. Unfortunately soy like dairy is a very common allergen. My main concern about soy is the phytoestrogens that a baby would be getting in large amounts compared to body weight. For those who have done their own research and are comfortable with soy that is fine. This is just my feelings on what I have read. So far for me it has been all acedemic as I have breastfed all of my children. Actually baby #3 (2mos) is asleep on my shoulder as I'm typing. What I wrote was in no way to find fault with anyone's choices, just expressing an opinion based on my reading. Jacqueline - For the Love of Animals Thursday, July 05, 2001 3:15 PM Re: Soy I thought a lot of formula has soy in it? It's a soy base? I don't know, I don't have kids, so I am not that familiar. I do know that my nephew drinks rice milk, by my recommendadtion as he is allergic to soy. -------------------------------~*Mary*~Co-Founder of "The Nuzzled Network"www.nuzzled.net "Our day will come if we just wait awhile"-Ruby and the Romantics " If you won't eat your cat, why eat a cow?"- me - Jacqueline Thursday, July 05, 2001 9:01 AM Soy Stephanie, I agree about moderation. We all eat soy in my household. I think the concern for me would be babies who are on soy formulas as that is their only food for 6mos. Breastmilk is best for babies but if you are using formula a dairy based formula is closer to mother's milk than a soy one. Makes sense since we are more like cows than soy beans right? LOL Soy formula should be reserved for babies who can neither have mother's milk or cow's milk formula but I think a lot of people took the information about formula not being as good for babies and decided that meant soy was better. And yes I know about the problems with dairy farming, etc. I'm just talking from a nutritional standpoint for infants. Jacqueline Regarding the Soy Online Service website... From what I understand, the woman who runs it used to work for the American Dairy Association, or something like that. I think that the both the Meat & the Dairy industry has a lot at stake in making Soy look bad. I'm not saying that people should ignore the possibility, but I am saying that they should take it with a grain of salt. Besides, I also understand there's a difference between eating things like Tofu & Tempeh, and eating Toffutti and such. The More processed the Soy is when you eat it, the less good it's going to be for you. As in all things, a good degree of moderation will probably protect you from any serious problems regarding 'health problems' from soy. Love & Light,Stephaniecontact owner: -owner Mail list: Delivered-mailing list List-Un: - no flaming arguing or denigration of others allowedcontact owner with complaints regarding posting/list or anything else. Thank you.please share/comment/inform and mostly enjoy this list Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 5, 2001 I thought a lot of formula has soy in it? It's a soy base? I don't know, I don't have kids, so I am not that familiar. I do know that my nephew drinks rice milk, by my recommendadtion as he is allergic to soy. -------------------------------~*Mary*~Co-Founder of "The Nuzzled Network"www.nuzzled.net "Our day will come if we just wait awhile"-Ruby and the Romantics " If you won't eat your cat, why eat a cow?"- me - Jacqueline Thursday, July 05, 2001 9:01 AM Soy Stephanie, I agree about moderation. We all eat soy in my household. I think the concern for me would be babies who are on soy formulas as that is their only food for 6mos. Breastmilk is best for babies but if you are using formula a dairy based formula is closer to mother's milk than a soy one. Makes sense since we are more like cows than soy beans right? LOL Soy formula should be reserved for babies who can neither have mother's milk or cow's milk formula but I think a lot of people took the information about formula not being as good for babies and decided that meant soy was better. And yes I know about the problems with dairy farming, etc. I'm just talking from a nutritional standpoint for infants. Jacqueline Regarding the Soy Online Service website... From what I understand, the woman who runs it used to work for the American Dairy Association, or something like that. I think that the both the Meat & the Dairy industry has a lot at stake in making Soy look bad. I'm not saying that people should ignore the possibility, but I am saying that they should take it with a grain of salt. Besides, I also understand there's a difference between eating things like Tofu & Tempeh, and eating Toffutti and such. The More processed the Soy is when you eat it, the less good it's going to be for you. As in all things, a good degree of moderation will probably protect you from any serious problems regarding 'health problems' from soy. Love & Light,Stephaniecontact owner: -owner Mail list: Delivered-mailing list List-Un: - no flaming arguing or denigration of others allowedcontact owner with complaints regarding posting/list or anything else. Thank you.please share/comment/inform and mostly enjoy this list Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 5, 2001 My 15yo dd (the healthiest person in our household -- cross-country runner, rarely sick, very strong, was 5'7" on her 12th birthday, honor roll, music awards, etc.) was breastfed two months, then soy formula only, then started adding solid foods at 4 months until 1 year, then dairy instead of formula. When I was pregnant with her, at first lost 10 lbs -- sick all the time -- then ate everything I could and ended up gaining 40 lbs. Wasn't all that careful about what I ate. OTOH, my 11yo ds was breastfed only (no supplements, not even water) until 9 months, then introduced solids gradually. Nursed for three years. Even before getting pregnant, I was growing all my own organic veggies, bought all my food at the health food store, exercised regularly -- was in the best health I've ever been in. He's got tons of health problems. Go figure! - Jeff & Judie Cummings Thursday, July 05, 2001 12:30 PM RE: Soy I don't necessarily agree that opinion that only infants who cannot have dairy should have soy based formula. My daughter is now 9 months old and has been on soy based formula since she was about 3 months (since I was unable to produce milk). Even though we are more like cows then soy beans, I don't agree that dairy based formulas are closer to mother's milk. We feed our daughter has two different formulas - one is a pre-manufactured soy based formula, and the other I make for her from a soy base (with different yummy nutrients in it). Each contains the nutrients that she needs to develop, even the fat for brain development. As she gets older her intake of soy will become less, since it will not be her source of calories each day. Our doctor also never saw a problem (and we asked) with the soy based formulas, and he didn't feel that the dairy based formulas were any better. We also have other friends who raised their children on a soy based formula and their children are fine (ages 18,15,12, 8, & 4). We have choose to go with a soy base because it is so hard for infants to digest dairy. I don't want other parents worried about having their babies on soy based formulas, because of bad media about soy. I hope what I wrote is clear and I haven't offended anyone, I just wanted to put in my opinion on this topic. Thank you Judie Jacqueline [jacq]Thursday, July 05, 2001 12:01 PM Subject: Soy Stephanie, I agree about moderation. We all eat soy in my household. I think the concern for me would be babies who are on soy formulas as that is their only food for 6mos. Breastmilk is best for babies but if you are using formula a dairy based formula is closer to mother's milk than a soy one. Makes sense since we are more like cows than soy beans right? LOL Soy formula should be reserved for babies who can neither have mother's milk or cow's milk formula but I think a lot of people took the information about formula not being as good for babies and decided that meant soy was better. And yes I know about the problems with dairy farming, etc. I'm just talking from a nutritional standpoint for infants. Jacqueline Regarding the Soy Online Service website... From what I understand, the woman who runs it used to work for the American Dairy Association, or something like that. I think that the both the Meat & the Dairy industry has a lot at stake in making Soy look bad. I'm not saying that people should ignore the possibility, but I am saying that they should take it with a grain of salt. Besides, I also understand there's a difference between eating things like Tofu & Tempeh, and eating Toffutti and such. The More processed the Soy is when you eat it, the less good it's going to be for you. As in all things, a good degree of moderation will probably protect you from any serious problems regarding 'health problems' from soy. Love & Light,Stephaniecontact owner: -owner Mail list: Delivered-mailing list List-Un: - no flaming arguing or denigration of others allowedcontact owner with complaints regarding posting/list or anything else. Thank you.please share/comment/inform and mostly enjoy this list Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 12, 2001 However, I think that soy is more healtier than meat. But maybe its not to good to eat alot of it. In poland where soy food is pretty big, I felt bad somethimes when I had eat it alot. >On Thu, 5 Jul 2001 13:01:18 -0300 > " Jacqueline " <jacq wrote: > >Stephanie, > >I agree about moderation. We all eat soy in my household. I think the concern for me would be babies who are on soy formulas as that is their only food for 6mos. Breastmilk is best for babies but if you are using formula a dairy based formula is closer to mother's milk than a soy one. Makes sense since we are more like cows than soy beans right? LOL Soy formula should be reserved for babies who can neither have mother's milk or cow's milk formula but I think a lot of people took the information about formula not being as good for babies and decided that meant soy was better. And yes I know about the problems with dairy farming, etc. I'm just talking from a nutritional standpoint for infants. > >Jacqueline > >Regarding the Soy Online Service website... From what I understand, >the woman who runs it used to work for the American Dairy >Association, or something like that. I think that the both the Meat & >the Dairy industry has a lot at stake in making Soy look bad. I'm not >saying that people should ignore the possibility, but I am saying >that they should take it with a grain of salt. Besides, I also >understand there's a difference between eating things like Tofu & >Tempeh, and eating Toffutti and such. The More processed the Soy is >when you eat it, the less good it's going to be for you. > >As in all things, a good degree of moderation will probably protect >you from any serious problems regarding 'health problems' from soy. > >Love & Light, >Stephanie > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 31, 2002 Thank you. I wasn't questioning the results; I was confused as to what they were. > The years in grad school do seem like dog years at times... sigh. When I went to grad school, I thought I was joking when I told people that I was too busy to watch the news so to let me know if we went to war--well, Desert Storm happened and I know next to nothing about it. You have my sympathy; it helped me to visualize a long hallway with hoops and hands that occassionally moved the hoops without warning. Just keep jumping :-) Max Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 2, 2002 Thank You Genie, I appreciate what you have had to say. Answers alot of questions for me about tha way some foods made me feel after I ate them. , genie bottle <geniesflower> wrote: > > OK, so here's the reference > Gender Transformed: Endocrine disruptors in the environment > Chapter for Fertile Ground: Women and Environmental History Ed. Virginia Scharff, (U. of Kansas Press, forthcoming 2003) > By Nancy Lagston at the Instittue for Environmental Studies > As to whomever thought it was the year 2000... last I heard it was 2002, which would mean the book would come out within a year. But, who knows, I'm in grad school and may be hallucinating as to the date. The years in grad school do seem like dog years at times... sigh. > She has several references in her that show that breast cancer responds to estrogen, from your body or foreign, and that endometriosis and uterine fibroid tumors also respond to these. Anyone remember the recent hormone replacement therapy news? It really doesn't matter where the estrogens come from, your body, food or from leaching from plastics it all acts the same... that is my point. Many soy products are high in phyto estrogens. In fact, most beans are. > David, you said that many of these folks have no problem with " flesh and diary " . Nancy has issues with both. In fact, while not stating so much in the paper, in her talk she said alot about pregnant cows being milked.... if a cow is pregnant she is making more estrogen which will enter the milk and you... Frankly, I'm not sure how organic cows are managed - are they pregnant? I don't drink milk/cheese but do eat organic yogurt. She used to be strict veggie but does eat grass fed organic meat occasionally now... > Plastics... yes Max, even your drinking cups. It used to be thought that plastics were inert, well, recent accidental studies have shown that at least some of them release their very own phytoestrogens. In fact, plastic was really hit upon as a " not so great " thing... What to do? Beats me, I love my Nalgene bottle and buy RO water in a plastic 5 gallon jug. I vaguely remember something of " painting oneself into a corner. " > I think that I am sharing my recent gain in knowlege not to scare anyone, I'll let you read the book yourself, but just to put a word of caution on the wind. With so much in the veggie world promoting the " joy of soy " and the semi-miracle plant status that it has gained, it only points us to the conclusion of all things, even things that seem wonderful, in moderation. > I am perhaps a bit more ardent about this due to the recent cancer in my beloved dog. He now eats human grade dog food out of a ceramic dish. His illness has really got me thinking about what it is I eat and the implications of it for my health. Even on my very strict budget I try to eat organic when I can. As a scientist, it only makes sense, as a human I am scared not to. Even if all these chemicals that we are pumping into the world end up not amounting to anything more than a Y2K level scare, I would much rather be safe than sorry. Humans evolved to eat without chemicals, there will be a pointed and obvious lag time for evolution (or the death of many and the living of the genetically fortunate few) to catch up with the chemical food diet - I hope to be one of those left standing. > Genie > > > > I would rather regret that which I have experienced than wish I had experienced that which is past. > > > > > Health - Feel better, live better Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 4, 2003 hi I got a few things to say about soy. as far as bacon goes. I definitely like Fakin Bacon the best. one thing about it is you must fry it in a pan to get it right no nuking here. when you do fry it up, it fully blasts the house with that great bacon smell and it makes a great BLT. I also wanted to point out the light life sliced soy turkey is really good. I like to chop it up and mix it with celery, onion, relish, and mayo and make fake turkey salad with it. also I dont know if its yves or lightlife or whoever, but as pointed out in the article the refrigerated breaded chicken cutlet is absolutely hopeless tried nuking it frying it whatever just STAY AWAY FROM IT CAUSE ITS GROSS. trust me lol. one other thing I wanted to point out, the other night I had a can of vegetarian chili for dinner and maybe some of you have discovered that if you throw in just a little oatmeal, it gets rid of the gloopiness and makes it nice and thick and doesn't add any strange taste either. ok thats about all for now stay cool Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 4, 2003 Hello Dave; I just bought the meatless Boca Breaded Chicken patties, from the freezer section of the grocery store. I found it to be really similar to chicken. I made myself a chicken burger. Grilled it on my Foreman Grill. Tasted great. Hope your weekend was a good one. Irene Marie canadianmade4u Dave <phantombluefan wrote: hi I got a few things to say about soy. as far as bacon goes. I definitely like Fakin Bacon the best. one thing about it is you must fry it in a pan to get it right no nuking here. when you do fry it up, it fully blasts the house with that great bacon smell and it makes a great BLT. I also wanted to point out the light life sliced soy turkey is really good. I like to chop it up and mix it with celery, onion, relish, and mayo and make fake turkey salad with it. also I dont know if its yves or lightlife or whoever, but as pointed out in the article the refrigerated breaded chicken cutlet is absolutely hopeless tried nuking it frying it whatever just STAY AWAY FROM IT CAUSE ITS GROSS. trust me lol. one other thing I wanted to point out, the other night I had a can of vegetarian chili for dinner and maybe some of you have discovered that if you throw in just a little oatmeal, it gets rid of the gloopiness and makes it nice and thick and doesn't add any strange taste either. ok thats about all for now stay cool Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 28, 2003 Soy comes from the soy bean. Whole different type of plant, so no worries, it isn't wheat at all. ~ pt ~ To change your mind and to follow him who sets you right is to be nonetheless the free agent that you were before. ~ Marcus Aurelius, " The Meditations " ~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~~~~> , I b <canadianmade4u> wrote: > > > Soyrizo; > > Someone mentioned this product, sounds interesting. > > I have a question to ask about soy. > > Is soy made of or have wheat in it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 27, 2004 When my son (now 5 yrs) was an infant, I was told not to give him soymilk until he was at least 2 yrs because of our family history of food allergies. I gave him rice milk in a cup occassionally starting at about 10.5 months and started soymilk just after he turned 2 yrs. He was also still nursing quite a lot -- so the rice milk was just an extra " treat. " My twin daughters, who are 3.5-yrs-old, are still nursing and have only within the past few months started asking for soymilk or rice milk in a cup. They were never interested in it before. Angela in KS Marisa <marisadanley wrote: Hello, everyone!! I have a question. My daughter is 10 months old. She has never had formula of any type (never even a bottle, in fact). I have started to give her soy products such as soy yogurt and tofu. I do not give her soy milk in a cup, but I do mix it in with her cereal. She is still breastfed and gets sufficient nutrients from her vegan diet. My question is this: Is is alright to give her soy at this age? A friend of mine is convinced that I shouldn't be giving it to her. However, the baby seems fine- no allergy or intestinel problems. In fact, she loves tofu and will eat it as fast as I will put it on her plate! It's common to give babies soy formula... Does that extend to soy milk? I do not plan on ever giving her dairy. She is developing very well, and is quit advanced. Thanks for the opinions. I would appreciate hearing other parents experiences with this topic. Marisa For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to http://www.vrg.org/family.This is a discussion list and is not intended to provide personal medical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a qualified health professional. edical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a qualified health professional. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 28, 2004 Marisa, I alwyas heard that babies shouldn't have soy prior to 9 months. If that's true then your daughter should be A-okay. That's the guideline I used for my own daughters and neither had adverse reactions to soy. BTW Bravo for nursing that baby keep up the good work! Stephanie (in Maryland) , " Marisa " <marisadanley> wrote: > Hello, everyone!! > I have a question. My daughter is 10 months old. She has never had > formula of any type (never even a bottle, in fact). I have started to > give her soy products such as soy yogurt and tofu. I do not give her > soy milk in a cup, but I do mix it in with her cereal. She is still > breastfed and gets sufficient nutrients from her vegan diet. My > question is this: Is is alright to give her soy at this age? A friend > of mine is convinced that I shouldn't be giving it to her. However, > the baby seems fine- no allergy or intestinel problems. In fact, she > loves tofu and will eat it as fast as I will put it on her plate! > It's common to give babies soy formula... Does that extend to soy > milk? I do not plan on ever giving her dairy. She is developing very > well, and is quit advanced. > Thanks for the opinions. I would appreciate hearing other parents > experiences with this topic. > > Marisa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 28, 2004 Every book I read had a different timeline for introducing foods. I think since you are already feeding soy to her and she is having no problems that is fine. That is what I did with my son. He was on soy formaula and I know I gave him soy yogurt at that age, I can't remember anything else. Lori " Marisa " <marisadanley soy Hello, everyone!! I have a question. My daughter is 10 months old. She has never had formula of any type (never even a bottle, in fact). I have started to give her soy products such as soy yogurt and tofu. I do not give her soy milk in a cup, but I do mix it in with her cereal. She is still breastfed and gets sufficient nutrients from her vegan diet. My question is this: Is is alright to give her soy at this age? A friend of mine is convinced that I shouldn't be giving it to her. However, the baby seems fine- no allergy or intestinel problems. In fact, she loves tofu and will eat it as fast as I will put it on her plate! It's common to give babies soy formula... Does that extend to soy milk? I do not plan on ever giving her dairy. She is developing very well, and is quit advanced. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 6, 2004 Marisa, Our doctor recommended waiting until after one year to give any foods that are commonly allergens (wheat, soy, peanuts; dairy too but we are vegan so will never give dairy). I guess that is to give the gut time to develop and close up. SUpposed to help prevent not only allergies to the foods but also stuff like asthma and other chronic immune-related problems. Of course lots of people give soy or dairy formula from birth, and vaccinate very young - and allergies and asthma and chronic autoimmune problems are rampant. That said, I would guess 10 months is close enough! If she has no reactions it sounds fine. Jen Marisa wrote: >Hello, everyone!! >I have a question. My daughter is 10 months old. She has never had >formula of any type (never even a bottle, in fact). I have started to >give her soy products such as soy yogurt and tofu. I do not give her >soy milk in a cup, but I do mix it in with her cereal. She is still >breastfed and gets sufficient nutrients from her vegan diet. My >question is this: Is is alright to give her soy at this age? A friend >of mine is convinced that I shouldn't be giving it to her. However, >the baby seems fine- no allergy or intestinel problems. In fact, she >loves tofu and will eat it as fast as I will put it on her plate! >It's common to give babies soy formula... Does that extend to soy >milk? I do not plan on ever giving her dairy. She is developing very >well, and is quit advanced. >Thanks for the opinions. I would appreciate hearing other parents >experiences with this topic. > >Marisa > > > >For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to http://www.vrg.org/family.This is a discussion list and is not intended to provide personal medical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a qualified health professional. > >edical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a qualified health professional. > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 5, 2004 Soy is rich in estrogens. I used to eat a lot of sprouted soy long ago. People started calling me " madam " on the telephone. I stopped the soy and that offence has gone. Peter Shelly Mares [shelly] 04 April 2004 23:49 rawfood [Raw Food] Soy Does anyone know of any studies done on humans regarding soy (and more specifically, soy milk) and it's affects on men? There are some studies done on monkeys and rats, but I would like to know if there are any problems with male humans. :-) Thanks! -Shelly Juice PLUS+ 24-Hr Information Hotline: (800) 624-7671 Juice PLUS+ Website: http://www.juiceplus.com/+mm70595 Children's Research Foundation Website: http://www.ChildrensResearch.org Juice Plus+ is REAL FOOD: It is composed of 17 RAW fruits, vegetables and grains which are grown in nutrient dense soil, allowed to ripen on the vine and picked/processed within 1-2 days! It was developed to fill the GAP between the quality and quantity of what you and I ACTUALLY eat and what we NEED to eat for good health! Remember: " If your lifestyle does not control your body, eventually your body will control your lifestyle. " Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 7, 2004 Are you asking in regard to prostate health?? I think it is valuable in prostate cancer therapy because of the phytoestrogens. But there are things with much more estrogens in the herbal and plant world. Didn't Rudi Giulliani eat soy everything when he was battling prostate cancer??? I think this was fairly well publicized all during and after the 9/11 crisis. Ann --- Shelly Mares <Shelly wrote: > Does anyone know of any studies done on humans > regarding soy (and more > specifically, soy milk) and it's affects on men? There > are some studies done > on monkeys and rats, but I would like to know if there > are any problems with > male humans. :-) Thanks! > > > > -Shelly > > > > Juice PLUS+ > > 24-Hr Information Hotline: (800) 624-7671 > > Juice PLUS+ Website: http://www.juiceplus.com/+mm70595 > > Children's Research Foundation Website: > http://www.ChildrensResearch.org > > > > Juice Plus+ is REAL FOOD: It is composed of 17 RAW > fruits, vegetables and > grains which are grown in nutrient dense soil, allowed > to ripen on the vine > and picked/processed within 1-2 days! It was > developed to fill the GAP > between the quality and quantity of what you and I > ACTUALLY eat and what we > NEED to eat for good health! Remember: " If your > lifestyle does not control > your body, eventually your body will control your > lifestyle. " > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 7, 2004 I'm asking because I heard that it could have negative affects on testosterone levels. I make a nutrition shake every morning and use soy milk, and I was just concerned about it for my husband. -Shelly Shelly Mares Phone: (813) 215-8752 E-mail: <Shelly Shelly 24-Hr Information Hotline: (800) 624-7671 Juice PLUS+ Website: <http://www.juiceplus.com/+mm70595> http://www.juiceplus.com/+mm70595 Children's Research Foundation Website: <http://www.ChildrensResearch.org> http://www.ChildrensResearch.org Juice Plus+ is REAL FOOD: It is composed of 17 RAW fruits, vegetables and grains which are grown in nutrient dense soil, allowed to ripen on the vine and picked/processed within 1-2 days! It was developed to fill the GAP between the quality and quantity of what you and I ACTUALLY eat and what we NEED to eat for good health! Remember: " If your lifestyle does not control your body, eventually your body will control your lifestyle. " C. Hudson [cremedemoka] Tuesday, April 06, 2004 8:39 PM rawfood Re: [Raw Food] Soy Are you asking in regard to prostate health?? I think it is valuable in prostate cancer therapy because of the phytoestrogens. But there are things with much more estrogens in the herbal and plant world. Didn't Rudi Giulliani eat soy everything when he was battling prostate cancer??? I think this was fairly well publicized all during and after the 9/11 crisis. Ann --- Shelly Mares <Shelly wrote: > Does anyone know of any studies done on humans > regarding soy (and more > specifically, soy milk) and it's affects on men? There > are some studies done > on monkeys and rats, but I would like to know if there > are any problems with > male humans. :-) Thanks! > > > > -Shelly > > > > Juice PLUS+ > > 24-Hr Information Hotline: (800) 624-7671 > > Juice PLUS+ Website: http://www.juiceplus.com/+mm70595 > > Children's Research Foundation Website: > http://www.ChildrensResearch.org > > > > Juice Plus+ is REAL FOOD: It is composed of 17 RAW > fruits, vegetables and > grains which are grown in nutrient dense soil, allowed > to ripen on the vine > and picked/processed within 1-2 days! It was > developed to fill the GAP > between the quality and quantity of what you and I > ACTUALLY eat and what we > NEED to eat for good health! Remember: " If your > lifestyle does not control > your body, eventually your body will control your > lifestyle. " > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 14, 2004 Hello, I have looked into the subject of genetically modified soy here in Australia. No soy product that I have found in the stores are genetically modified. All tofu here has 'organic' on the packaging. All soy milk has that it's not genetically modified on the carton so I am no longer concerned :-) Jenni Find local movie times and trailers on Movies. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 14, 2004 Jenni, hi there is no GE soy grown in Australia BUT>>> Ingham's Chickens is importing GE soy from the USA and Canada to feed to their Chickens if you are Vegan this does not directly effect us BUT... be careful unless it says NOT GE it could be GE I too take a lot of comfort in knowing the GE was slowed down dramatically in Australia and Monsanto is packing up shop and leaving our Fair Nation =o]] but be careful all the Best Craig jennifer coleman [mumto2teens] Friday, May 14, 2004 8:14 AM Veg-Recipes Cc: mumto2teens Re: soy Hello, I have looked into the subject of genetically modified soy here in Australia. No soy product that I have found in the stores are genetically modified. All tofu here has 'organic' on the packaging. All soy milk has that it's not genetically modified on the carton so I am no longer concerned :-) Jenni Find local movie times and trailers on Movies. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 14, 2004 > Excuse my ignorance but can soy be eaten raw? - Not in the bean form but if sprouted it's wonderful for snacking. Miso or tempe is not raw but fermented and is quite digestible but can't qualify as raw. - " Fredrik Murman " <fpm <rawfood > Monday, June 14, 2004 3:12 AM [Raw Food] Soy > Excuse my ignorance but can soy be eaten raw? Also, are there any > vegans (cooked/raw) who don't eat soy? > > Fredrik > > Arena for vegheads and meatheads > http://health.vegvsmeat/ > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 14, 2004 Is fermented not considered raw " L.Win " <rustym wrote: > Excuse my ignorance but can soy be eaten raw? - Not in the bean form but if sprouted it's wonderful for snacking. Miso or tempe is not raw but fermented and is quite digestible but can't qualify as raw. - " Fredrik Murman " <fpm <rawfood > Monday, June 14, 2004 3:12 AM [Raw Food] Soy > Excuse my ignorance but can soy be eaten raw? Also, are there any > vegans (cooked/raw) who don't eat soy? > > Fredrik > > Arena for vegheads and meatheads > http://health.vegvsmeat/ > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites