Guest guest Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 Who wrote the article? Did it site sources? Who funded the research? I highly recommend checking Dr. Greger's DVDs on nutrition. Linda My vegan blog: http://veganlinda.blogspot.com/ My business: http://triballife.net/ http://triballifeinc.blogspot.com/ My car free blog: http://cucarfree.blogspot.com/ Our veg radio show: http://fftradio.blogspot.com/ On Jan 1, 2010, at 4:06 PM, Angela Nagle <angel.nail wrote: Hi all, I just read an article on unfermented soy and how bad it was. Im wondering how much soy you include in your diet and particuarly that of your kids. My son loves soy but im feeling fairly uneasy about it now. Ange -- " One person flying in an airplane for one hour is responsible for the same greenhouse gas emissions as a typical Bangladeshi in a whole year. " - Beatrice Schell, European Federation for Transport and Environment, November 2001. * The global livestock industry is responsible for more greenhouse gas emissions than all the planes, trains and automobiles in the world combined Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 Hi Ange, I'd look more into who wrote the article . there are a lot of anti-soy and anti-vegetarian articles out there out of the Weston A. Price Foundation or written by their leaders like Sally Fallon . I'd weigh those with . okay nothing, I'd totally ignore those. :-) There is a health benefit to fermented foods, but unfermented soy is a part of our regular diet . I use to be more careful about the soy we ate, how often, how much, etc., until I read more into where the info is coming from. Even some good friends were bantering around these articles and fake statistics (cited from their own writings, that cite their own writings, that cite their own literature, . that if you trace back, just came from their own speeches or writings, with no scientific background). So, I'd just check the source and see how much you trust it, and then do more research on the topic. There's tons written in the archives of this group, and on the VRG site and others. Good soy luck! :-) Lorraine On Behalf Of Angela Nagle Friday, January 01, 2010 2:07 PM Soy products Hi all, I just read an article on unfermented soy and how bad it was. Im wondering how much soy you include in your diet and particuarly that of your kids. My son loves soy but im feeling fairly uneasy about it now. Ange -- " One person flying in an airplane for one hour is responsible for the same greenhouse gas emissions as a typical Bangladeshi in a whole year. " - Beatrice Schell, European Federation for Transport and Environment, November 2001. * The global livestock industry is responsible for more greenhouse gas emissions than all the planes, trains and automobiles in the world combined Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 I agree with what the others have said...look at the source and credibility of the article. Sometimes there is a hidden agenda in putting out such information. We eat soy, including the kids.... we don't go overboard with it, but we don't with any food. So we don't treat it any differently. But I think some soy, especially non-GMO sources (like organic tofu, tempeh, etc.) are healthy additions to our diet. Jacqueline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 There is good soy, like non-GMO tofu and edamame, and bad soy, like processed protein powders. Most meat eaters eat WAY more soy than most vegetarians eat, because of the amount of soy fed to animals. ________________________________ Jacqueline Bodnar <jb Sat, January 2, 2010 5:00:51 PM RE: Soy products  I agree with what the others have said...look at the source and credibility of the article. Sometimes there is a hidden agenda in putting out such information. We eat soy, including the kids.... we don't go overboard with it, but we don't with any food. So we don't treat it any differently. But I think some soy, especially non-GMO sources (like organic tofu, tempeh, etc.) are healthy additions to our diet. Jacqueline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 Yeah, I've read lots of negative articles on soy and hardly ever eat it myself. I only eat tofu occasionally (once/month or less). I don't prepare it at home but order it sometimes when we go out to eat (which is probably a bad choice since most restaurants don't choose organic, non-GMO soy!!). Unfortunately, I can't stand Tempeh but I do like miso which is fermented. My children rarely ever eat tofu because they just refuse to eat it. They've probably only eaten a few bites ever. And we don't drink soy milk or eat processed soy products (like fake soy meats). Overall, I think soy is okay in very small amounts (small serving once week?). Try to choose non-GMO tofu. Good luck! --- On Fri, 1/1/10, Angela Nagle <angel.nail wrote: Angela Nagle <angel.nail Soy products Friday, January 1, 2010, 5:06 PM  Hi all, I just read an article on unfermented soy and how bad it was. Im wondering how much soy you include in your diet and particuarly that of your kids. My son loves soy but im feeling fairly uneasy about it now. Ange -- " One person flying in an airplane for one hour is responsible for the same greenhouse gas emissions as a typical Bangladeshi in a whole year. " - Beatrice Schell, European Federation for Transport and Environment, November 2001. * The global livestock industry is responsible for more greenhouse gas emissions than all the planes, trains and automobiles in the world combined Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 Hi, its late but i am sending the link with the info about unfermented soy, and this guy also really hates soy formula. http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2006/03/30/finally-infant-soy\ -formula-under-investigation.aspx http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/03/27/why-this-type-of-s\ oy-is-better.aspx Ange On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 5:13 AM, Tracy Childs <tracychilds wrote: > > > What article and who wrote it? > > > On Jan 1, 2010, at 2:06 PM, Angela Nagle wrote: > > > Hi all, > > I just read an article on unfermented soy and how bad it was. Im > wondering > > how much soy you include in your diet and particuarly that of your kids. > My > > son loves soy but im feeling fairly uneasy about it now. > > Ange > > > > -- > > " One person flying in an airplane for one hour is responsible for the > same > > greenhouse gas emissions as a typical Bangladeshi in a whole year. " - > > Beatrice Schell, European Federation for Transport and Environment, > November > > 2001. > > > > * The global livestock industry is responsible for more greenhouse gas > > emissions than all the planes, trains and automobiles in the world > combined > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 Mercola is not a vailid source, in my opinion, for info on nutrtion. He is hand and hand with Weston A. Price Foundation. Please research any info from him carefully. Linda My vegan blog: http://veganlinda.blogspot.com/ My business: http://triballife.net/ http://triballifeinc.blogspot..com/ My car free blog: http://cucarfree.blogspot.com/ Our veg radio show: http://fftradio.blogspot.com/ On Jan 14, 2010, at 3:16 PM, Angela Nagle <angel.nail wrote: Hi, its late but i am sending the link with the info about unfermented soy, and this guy also really hates soy formula. http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2006/03/30/finally-infant-soy\ -formula-under-investigation.aspx http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/03/27/why-this-type-of-s\ oy-is-better..aspx Ange On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 5:13 AM, Tracy Childs <tracychilds wrote: > > > What article and who wrote it? > > > On Jan 1, 2010, at 2:06 PM, Angela Nagle wrote: > > > Hi all, > > I just read an article on unfermented soy and how bad it was. Im > wondering > > how much soy you include in your diet and particuarly that of your kids. > My > > son loves soy but im feeling fairly uneasy about it now. > > Ange > > > > -- > > " One person flying in an airplane for one hour is responsible for the > same > > greenhouse gas emissions as a typical Bangladeshi in a whole year. " - > > Beatrice Schell, European Federation for Transport and Environment, > November > > 2001. > > > > * The global livestock industry is responsible for more greenhouse gas > > emissions than all the planes, trains and automobiles in the world > combined > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 What/ Where is a valid source on soy nutrition?I read the Mercola piece and it scared me too! Can you tell me about Weston A price Foundation and how Dr. Mercola is connected? Are any of his points valid? thanks kate ________________________________ Vegan Linda <veganlinda " " Thu, January 14, 2010 2:51:06 PM Re: Soy products Mercola is not a vailid source, in my opinion, for info on nutrtion. He is hand and hand with Weston A. Price Foundation. Please research any info from him carefully. Linda My vegan blog: http://veganlinda. blogspot. com/ My business: http://triballife. net/ http://triballifeinc.blogspot..com/ My car free blog: http://cucarfree. blogspot. com/ Our veg radio show: http://fftradio. blogspot. com/ On Jan 14, 2010, at 3:16 PM, Angela Nagle <angel.nail (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Hi, its late but i am sending the link with the info about unfermented soy, and this guy also really hates soy formula. http://articles. mercola.com/ sites/articles/ archive/2006/ 03/30/finally- infant-soy- formula-under- investigation. aspx http://articles. mercola.com/ sites/articles/ archive/2008/ 03/27/why- this-type- of-soy-is- better..aspx Ange On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 5:13 AM, Tracy Childs <tracychilds@ cox.net> wrote: > > > What article and who wrote it? > > > On Jan 1, 2010, at 2:06 PM, Angela Nagle wrote: > > > Hi all, > > I just read an article on unfermented soy and how bad it was. Im > wondering > > how much soy you include in your diet and particuarly that of your kids. > My > > son loves soy but im feeling fairly uneasy about it now. > > Ange > > > > -- > > " One person flying in an airplane for one hour is responsible for the > same > > greenhouse gas emissions as a typical Bangladeshi in a whole year. " - > > Beatrice Schell, European Federation for Transport and Environment, > November > > 2001. > > > > * The global livestock industry is responsible for more greenhouse gas > > emissions than all the planes, trains and automobiles in the world > combined > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 This comes up time and again on the internet and with people on this list, it seems. Here is one of the balanced pieces that I felt covered the topic well: http://www.foodrevolution.org/what_about_soy.htm It is by John Robbins, who wrote " Diet for a New America. " This is also a good one from Colin Campbell: http://www.vegsource.com/news/2009/09/dr-campbell-responds-to-dr-mercola.html Both have been posted before, I think, but are no less valuable if they're new to you. Cheers, Mark 2010/1/14 kate coyle <coylemk > > > What/ Where is a valid source on soy nutrition?I read the Mercola piece and > it scared me too! Can you tell me about Weston A price Foundation and how > Dr. Mercola is connected? > Are any of his points valid? > thanks > kate > > ________________________________ > Vegan Linda <veganlinda <veganlinda%40>> > " <%40> " < > <%40>> > Thu, January 14, 2010 2:51:06 PM > Re: Soy products > > Mercola is not a vailid source, in my opinion, for info on nutrtion. He is > hand and hand with Weston A. Price Foundation. Please research any info from > him carefully. > > Linda > My vegan blog: http://veganlinda. blogspot. com/ > My business: http://triballife. net/ > http://triballifeinc.blogspot..com/ > My car free blog: http://cucarfree. blogspot. com/ > Our veg radio show: http://fftradio. blogspot. com/ > > On Jan 14, 2010, at 3:16 PM, Angela Nagle <angel.nail (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: > > Hi, its late but i am sending the link with the info about unfermented soy, > and this guy also really hates soy formula. > http://articles. mercola.com/ sites/articles/ archive/2006/ 03/30/finally- > infant-soy- formula-under- investigation. aspx > http://articles. mercola.com/ sites/articles/ archive/2008/ 03/27/why- > this-type- of-soy-is- better..aspx > Ange > > On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 5:13 AM, Tracy Childs <tracychilds@ cox.net> wrote: > > > > > > > What article and who wrote it? > > > > > > On Jan 1, 2010, at 2:06 PM, Angela Nagle wrote: > > > > > Hi all, > > > I just read an article on unfermented soy and how bad it was. Im > > wondering > > > how much soy you include in your diet and particuarly that of your > kids. > > My > > > son loves soy but im feeling fairly uneasy about it now. > > > Ange > > > > > > -- > > > " One person flying in an airplane for one hour is responsible for the > > same > > > greenhouse gas emissions as a typical Bangladeshi in a whole year. " - > > > Beatrice Schell, European Federation for Transport and Environment, > > November > > > 2001. > > > > > > * The global livestock industry is responsible for more greenhouse gas > > > emissions than all the planes, trains and automobiles in the world > > combined > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 Scroll down to the bottom for Mercola's comments. He mentions that he keeps a copy of the Price book in his office to show patients. http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2001/01/21/weston-price.aspx Generally, he advocates for a very similar diet to what the WAPF promotes. He is lockstep with them when it comes to soy, but is at odds with them on some things, like cod liver oil. http://www.westonaprice.org/Cod-Liver-Oil-Setting-the-Record-Straight.html If you read the Wikipedia page on him it spells it out a bit more and says he advocates what is essentially a paleolithic diet, very similar to the WAPF. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Mercola#Diet I typically direct people to links that have already been provided. Heather http://unsheeply.net , kate coyle <coylemk wrote: > > What/ Where is a valid source on soy nutrition?I read the Mercola piece and it scared me too! Can you tell me about Weston A price Foundation and how Dr. Mercola is connected? > Are any of his points valid? > thanks > kate > > > > ________________________________ > Vegan Linda <veganlinda > " " > Thu, January 14, 2010 2:51:06 PM > Re: Soy products > > > Mercola is not a vailid source, in my opinion, for info on nutrtion. He is hand and hand with Weston A. Price Foundation. Please research any info from him carefully. > > Linda > My vegan blog: http://veganlinda. blogspot. com/ > My business: http://triballife. net/ > http://triballifeinc.blogspot..com/ > My car free blog: http://cucarfree. blogspot. com/ > Our veg radio show: http://fftradio. blogspot. com/ > > On Jan 14, 2010, at 3:16 PM, Angela Nagle <angel.nail (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: > > Hi, its late but i am sending the link with the info about unfermented soy, > and this guy also really hates soy formula. > http://articles. mercola.com/ sites/articles/ archive/2006/ 03/30/finally- infant-soy- formula-under- investigation. aspx > http://articles. mercola.com/ sites/articles/ archive/2008/ 03/27/why- this-type- of-soy-is- better..aspx > Ange > > On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 5:13 AM, Tracy Childs <tracychilds@ cox.net> wrote: > > > > > > > What article and who wrote it? > > > > > > On Jan 1, 2010, at 2:06 PM, Angela Nagle wrote: > > > > > Hi all, > > > I just read an article on unfermented soy and how bad it was. Im > > wondering > > > how much soy you include in your diet and particuarly that of your kids. > > My > > > son loves soy but im feeling fairly uneasy about it now. > > > Ange > > > > > > -- > > > " One person flying in an airplane for one hour is responsible for the > > same > > > greenhouse gas emissions as a typical Bangladeshi in a whole year. " - > > > Beatrice Schell, European Federation for Transport and Environment, > > November > > > 2001. > > > > > > * The global livestock industry is responsible for more greenhouse gas > > > emissions than all the planes, trains and automobiles in the world > > combined > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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