Pole Shift (was vegan cookbook)

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Well, astrology is far more complex than the 'what's your sign'

nonsense--I'm Cancer, but I act my Gemini moon sign. I'm terribly awkward

sometimes--that's Capricorn for ya.

 

It's more framework than comprehensive life,blah-di-blah (can't think of the

words here).

 

Danielle

 

 

 

Sure there's a light at the end of the tunnel...I just hope it isn't an

oncoming train!

 

 

 

 

 

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" Peter " <metalscarab

 

 

Re: Pole Shift (was vegan cookbook)

Sat, 9 Aug 2003 20:44:15 +0100

 

Hi Paul

 

> Whoops ! Don't confuse astronomy with astrology. Astronomy is real,

> astrology is " new age " nonsense.

 

 

Ah - I see you're after an argument!

 

In fact, it is only with the creation of a new religion (science) that

astronomy and astrology have been seperated. All of the great scientists of

the past (Newton, Wren, Haak, Wilkins, Boyle, etc. etc.) all accepted

astrology as a part of their research into natural philosophy.

 

I'm intrigued by your use of the term " new age " considering that astrology

pre-dates modern science by several millenia. Perhaps it is astrology which

is real, and modern science which is " new age nonsense " . Incidentally, why

do you feel the need to belittle something just because you happen to

disagree with it? That sort of attitude usually comes from those insecure in

their own beliefs who feel the need to bully others into agreement - either

that, or those who just like to stir up trouble.

 

Perhaps you could explain how the much vaunted " birth season effect " studies

carried out by psychologists over the past decade differ from astrology?

 

BB

Peter

 

 

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Hi Peter

 

, " Peter " <metalscarab@o...> wrote:

>

 

> Incidentally, contrary to the Dangermouse episode, the poles are

not red and white striped sticks poking out of the ground. There are

two generally accepted poles... the magnetic ones, and ones that was

invented so that maps would all be drawn the same way up.

>

 

 

Nice try!

But no one here is going to believe yer riduclous propaganda

 

nikki

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Hi Peter

 

I LUV astrology!

 

have you ever had yer chart interpretated?

you'd be amazed at what the stars and planets know about you

 

tis why I never run a chart fer someone without their permission

too personal, much like reading their diary

 

nikki

 

 

, " Peter " <metalscarab@o...> wrote:

 

> I have to say, this all confuses me - I've never fully understood

astronomy or astrology!

>

> BB

> Peter

>

>

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Hi Paul

 

That would be in yer opinion, right?

 

Why do you say it tis nonsense?

Is it something you have studied to come to this conclusion

er just yer thoughts on what you know of the subject?

 

I remember magick being considered nonsense and then they burned

people fer it

and still no one quite believed

 

fact is, i remember being told veganism was nonsense by people who

knew nothing about it as well

 

then there was all that nonsense about the earth being round

 

ah, and nonsense about ...

oh, am I going on again?

sorry bout that

 

 

nikki

thinking happy thoughts

 

 

 

, Paul Russell <prussell@s...> wrote:

> >

> >I have to say, this all confuses me - I've never fully understood

> >astronomy or astrology!

> >

>

> Whoops ! Don't confuse astronomy with astrology. Astronomy is real,

> astrology is " new age " nonsense.

>

> Paul

>

> --

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only if someone comes with me!

 

nikki

small, boring bedroom

 

 

, EBbrewpunx@c... wrote:

> oh..fer bacchus' sake..everyone play nice....

> thats it..go to yer rooms....

[Guest guest]

Hi Nikki

 

> > Incidentally, contrary to the Dangermouse episode, the poles are > > not red and white striped sticks poking out of the ground.

> Nice try!> But no one here is going to believe yer riduclous propaganda

Honest - they're not red and white at all.... they're green. I mean.. umm... no, just forget I said that :-)

 

BB

Peter

 

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Hi Nikki

 

> I LUV astrology!> have you ever had yer chart interpretated?> you'd be amazed at what the stars and planets know about you

I had it done by a friend about 3 years ago. It was surprisingly accurate in parts, but there was one major thing that was *completely* wrong... about as wrong as you could possibly get!

 

I take a sort of "middle road" on astrology... I see a lot of very good parallels between the moment and place of birth and character, and how various planetary movements affect our emotions etc. but I can't stand these ideas of "fortune telling" through astrology (i.e. the "tabloid" astrology).

 

I also have a big objection to astrology in that I have trouble fully understanding it... it just gets too complex for me! Same with astronomy. There's just too many stars and planets for me to keep an eye on! :-)

 

BB

Peter

 

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Hi Nikki

 

I have never had a chart done personally. I did one over the internet, and that was pretty good.

 

Any chance ..... :-) :-) :-)

 

Jo

 

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Tuesday, August 12, 2003 12:24 PM

Re: Pole Shift (was vegan cookbook)

Hi PeterI LUV astrology!have you ever had yer chart interpretated?you'd be amazed at what the stars and planets know about youtis why I never run a chart fer someone without their permissiontoo personal, much like reading their diarynikki , "Peter" <metalscarab@o...> wrote:> I have to say, this all confuses me - I've never fully understood astronomy or astrology!> > BB> Peter> >

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No Nikki - you are not going on again - just being sensible.

 

Jo

 

That would be in yer opinion, right?Why do you say it tis nonsense?Is it something you have studied to come to this conclusioner just yer thoughts on what you know of the subject?I remember magick being considered nonsense and then they burned people fer itand still no one quite believedfact is, i remember being told veganism was nonsense by people who knew nothing about it as wellthen there was all that nonsense about the earth being roundah, and nonsense about ...oh, am I going on again?sorry bout thatnikki :)thinking happy thoughts , Paul Russell <prussell@s...> wrote:> >> >I have to say, this all confuses me - I've never fully understood > >astronomy or astrology!> >> > Whoops ! Don't confuse astronomy with astrology. Astronomy is real, > astrology is "new age" nonsense.> > Paul> > --

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*Butts in to this subject* ....I as well love astrology, I'd love to have my chat interpretated...some day. Heh.

Choa,

Sam.Peter <metalscarab wrote:

 

 

Hi Nikki

 

> I LUV astrology!> have you ever had yer chart interpretated?> you'd be amazed at what the stars and planets know about you

I had it done by a friend about 3 years ago. It was surprisingly accurate in parts, but there was one major thing that was *completely* wrong... about as wrong as you could possibly get!

 

I take a sort of "middle road" on astrology... I see a lot of very good parallels between the moment and place of birth and character, and how various planetary movements affect our emotions etc. but I can't stand these ideas of "fortune telling" through astrology (i.e. the "tabloid" astrology).

 

I also have a big objection to astrology in that I have trouble fully understanding it... it just gets too complex for me! Same with astronomy. There's just too many stars and planets for me to keep an eye on! :-)

 

BB

Peter

 

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Hi Peter

 

Ferget you said what?

 

nikki

 

 

, " Peter " <metalscarab@o...> wrote:

> Hi Nikki

>

> > > Incidentally, contrary to the Dangermouse episode, the poles

are

> > > not red and white striped sticks poking out of the ground.

> > Nice try!

> > But no one here is going to believe yer riduclous propaganda

>

> Honest - they're not red and white at all.... they're green. I

mean.. umm... no, just forget I said that :-)

>

> BB

> Peter

>

>

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Thx Jo!

 

nikki

 

, " Peter " <metalscarab@o...> wrote:

> No Nikki - you are not going on again - just being sensible.

>

> Jo

>

>

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Hi Jo

 

Absolutely!

 

Email me offlist yer birthdate, time and exact location. If you have

latitude longitude as well that's great, if not no biggie I will look

it up.

 

The more you know about when/where you were born, the more precise it

is. If you do not know the exact time of birth as close as possible

will work.

 

The just give me a bit of time and i'll send ya yer actual chart and

a few interpretations. And if there is anything specific you are

looking for info on (love, family, work, etc) lt me know and i'll try

to pinpoint those topics from your houses.

 

But remember, some things need to be taken lightly. Just because it

is there, does not mean it is necessarily negative and everything can

be worked with!

 

Oh i'm all excited now. LOL I LUV doing charts!

 

Nikki

 

 

 

, " Heartwork " <Heartwork@o...> wrote:

> Hi Nikki

>

> I have never had a chart done personally. I did one over the

internet, and that was pretty good.

>

> Any chance ..... :-) :-) :-)

>

> Jo

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Hi Sam,

 

Ok, but first come first served

LOL

 

send me yer info as well if ya want

 

nikki

 

 

 

, sam hall <luckycharm2315>

wrote:

> *Butts in to this subject* ....I as well love astrology, I'd love

to have my chat interpretated...some day. Heh.

> Choa,

> Sam.

>

> Peter <metalscarab@o...> wrote:

> Hi Nikki

>

> > I LUV astrology!

> > have you ever had yer chart interpretated?

> > you'd be amazed at what the stars and planets know about you

>

> I had it done by a friend about 3 years ago. It was surprisingly

accurate in parts, but there was one major thing that was

*completely* wrong... about as wrong as you could possibly get!

>

> I take a sort of " middle road " on astrology... I see a lot of very

good parallels between the moment and place of birth and character,

and how various planetary movements affect our emotions etc. but I

can't stand these ideas of " fortune telling " through astrology (i.e.

the " tabloid " astrology).

>

> I also have a big objection to astrology in that I have trouble

fully understanding it... it just gets too complex for me! Same with

astronomy. There's just too many stars and planets for me to keep an

eye on! :-)

>

> BB

> Peter

>

>

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does that mean vegans are clowns?

egads i hope not...

clowns are evil...

[Guest guest]

yay thankyou for putting him right - lots of people assume astology is what new age hippy type people do - people really do stereotype people easily dont they!!!! they also dont know what real astrology is as they usually only read the newspapers horoscopes column!!!! - there is much more to astology than that but i surpose people just call it nonsence and dont bother to look any further, eeks! im rambling and i dont know what im saying!!!!

 

You guys all talk too much - iv been away for a week (helping a friend move house during a heat wave probably isnt the best thing to do!!) but got back and my inbox was full - ive still got 100 messages to read and they are all from you guys, iv been reading your emails so long all the letters are dancing!!!!! - maybe i should take a break.

 

- im not having a go at u guys - i like the way you talk a lot - and there have been some interesting topics - like the pole swap stuff - being into geology kinda got me interested in that. and you guys seem to have good sense of humours - do you reckon thats something all vegans have????

 

anyway rambled enough got to get back to reading!!!!!!!Peter <metalscarab wrote:

 

Hi Paul

 

> Whoops ! Don't confuse astronomy with astrology. Astronomy is real, > astrology is "new age" nonsense.

 

Ah - I see you're after an argument!

 

In fact, it is only with the creation of a new religion (science) that astronomy and astrology have been seperated. All of the great scientists of the past (Newton, Wren, Haak, Wilkins, Boyle, etc. etc.) all accepted astrology as a part of their research into natural philosophy.

 

I'm intrigued by your use of the term "new age" considering that astrology pre-dates modern science by several millenia. Perhaps it is astrology which is real, and modern science which is "new age nonsense". Incidentally, why do you feel the need to belittle something just because you happen to disagree with it? That sort of attitude usually comes from those insecure in their own beliefs who feel the need to bully others into agreement - either that, or those who just like to stir up trouble.

 

Perhaps you could explain how the much vaunted "birth season effect" studies carried out by psychologists over the past decade differ from astrology?

 

BB

Peter

 

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Hi Nikki

 

> Ferget you said what?

Nothing... nothing at all.... honest.

 

BB

Peter

 

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Hi

 

> and you guys seem to have good sense of humours - do you reckon thats something all vegans have????

 

Sadly...no! Although I have met more vegans who share my sense of humour than non-vegans, so perhaps there is a loose connection between diet and sense of humour.

 

BB

Peter

 

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Thanks Nikki - I will email you.

 

I'm all excited now.

 

Jo

 

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nikki_mackovitch

Wednesday, August 13, 2003 12:10 PM

Re: Pole Shift (was vegan cookbook)

Hi JoAbsolutely! :)Email me offlist yer birthdate, time and exact location. If you have latitude longitude as well that's great, if not no biggie I will look it up.The more you know about when/where you were born, the more precise it is. If you do not know the exact time of birth as close as possible will work.The just give me a bit of time and i'll send ya yer actual chart and a few interpretations. And if there is anything specific you are looking for info on (love, family, work, etc) lt me know and i'll try to pinpoint those topics from your houses.But remember, some things need to be taken lightly. Just because it is there, does not mean it is necessarily negative and everything can be worked with! :)Oh i'm all excited now. LOL I LUV doing charts!Nikki , "Heartwork" <Heartwork@o...> wrote:> Hi Nikki> > I have never had a chart done personally. I did one over the internet, and that was pretty good.> > Any chance ..... :-) :-) :-)> > Jo

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Hi Sara

 

I reckon geology must be very interesting. Does your job involve geology?

 

Jo

 

 

 

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Welcome back!

 

 

, Magick Nuts <magick_nuts>

wrote:

> yay thankyou for putting him right - lots of people assume astology

is what new age hippy type people do - people really do stereotype

people easily dont they!!!! they also dont know what real astrology

>is as they usually only read the newspapers horoscopes column!!!! -

there is much more to astology than that but i surpose people just

call it nonsence and dont bother to look any further, eeks! im

>rambling and i dont know what im saying!!!!

 

Nah, not rambling, speaking yer peace

 

>

> You guys all talk too much - iv been away for a week (helping a

friend move house during a heat wave probably isnt the best thing to

do!!) but got back and my inbox was full - ive still got 100 messages

to read and they are all from you guys, iv been reading your emails

so long all the letters are dancing!!!!! - maybe i should take a

break.

>

 

Actually, LOL the group was kinda slow fer a bit

 

If you find it easier, you can always get the messages in digest or

just read them from the group

 

I usually go to the group, easier fer me to navigate and I get enough

emails now as it is

 

> - im not having a go at u guys - i like the way you talk a lot -

and there have been some interesting topics - like the pole swap

stuff - being into geology kinda got me interested in that. and you

guys seem to have good sense of humours - do you reckon thats

something all vegans have????

>

> anyway rambled enough got to get back to reading!!!!!!!

 

 

All in all, I think as Vegans we have to have more of a light-hearted

side and open minds to deal with those who do not understand our

choices.

But, there is always the factor that this group is just a great bunch

of people too!

 

nikki - buttering up the group

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Hi Peter

 

Nothing puts me more on guard than when someone either says

" Honest " or " Trust Me "

 

nikki

Thy own importance know.

Alexander Pope

 

 

 

, " Peter " <metalscarab@o...> wrote:

> Hi Nikki

>

> > Ferget you said what?

>

> Nothing... nothing at all.... honest.

>

> BB

> Peter

>

>

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Im not working at the moment - kinda between things, but im tryin for a part time job in a local supermarket - so no not really and before now iv worked in a pub. but my degree in geology starts this september - i cant wait, the past year or so when ive not been learning iv noticed myself getting dumber!!!!! hehe!!!!

 

i find geology really interesting - my geology alevel teacher was right when you start geology thats it your hooked!!!!!Heartwork <Heartwork wrote:

 

Hi Sara

 

I reckon geology must be very interesting. Does your job involve geology?

 

Jo

 

 

 

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I'm sure you'll enjoy doing your degree. One of my friends at work has just got hers, from the Open University - part-time. She loved the field trips.

 

Good luck.

 

Jo

 

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Sunday, August 17, 2003 1:53 PM

Re: Pole Shift (was vegan cookbook)

 

Im not working at the moment - kinda between things, but im tryin for a part time job in a local supermarket - so no not really and before now iv worked in a pub. but my degree in geology starts this september - i cant wait, the past year or so when ive not been learning iv noticed myself getting dumber!!!!! hehe!!!!

 

i find geology really interesting - my geology alevel teacher was right when you start geology thats it your hooked!!!!!Heartwork <Heartwork wrote:

 

Hi Sara

 

I reckon geology must be very interesting. Does your job involve geology?

 

Jo

 

 

 

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