Guest guest Posted August 10, 2003 Report Share Posted August 10, 2003 Well, astrology is far more complex than the 'what's your sign' nonsense--I'm Cancer, but I act my Gemini moon sign. I'm terribly awkward sometimes--that's Capricorn for ya. It's more framework than comprehensive life,blah-di-blah (can't think of the words here). Danielle Sure there's a light at the end of the tunnel...I just hope it isn't an oncoming train! ----Original Message Follows---- " Peter " <metalscarab Re: Pole Shift (was vegan cookbook) Sat, 9 Aug 2003 20:44:15 +0100 Hi Paul > Whoops ! Don't confuse astronomy with astrology. Astronomy is real, > astrology is " new age " nonsense. Ah - I see you're after an argument! In fact, it is only with the creation of a new religion (science) that astronomy and astrology have been seperated. All of the great scientists of the past (Newton, Wren, Haak, Wilkins, Boyle, etc. etc.) all accepted astrology as a part of their research into natural philosophy. I'm intrigued by your use of the term " new age " considering that astrology pre-dates modern science by several millenia. Perhaps it is astrology which is real, and modern science which is " new age nonsense " . Incidentally, why do you feel the need to belittle something just because you happen to disagree with it? That sort of attitude usually comes from those insecure in their own beliefs who feel the need to bully others into agreement - either that, or those who just like to stir up trouble. Perhaps you could explain how the much vaunted " birth season effect " studies carried out by psychologists over the past decade differ from astrology? BB Peter --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.506 / Virus Database: 303 - Release 01/08/03 _______________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2003 Report Share Posted August 12, 2003 Hi Peter , " Peter " <metalscarab@o...> wrote: > > Incidentally, contrary to the Dangermouse episode, the poles are not red and white striped sticks poking out of the ground. There are two generally accepted poles... the magnetic ones, and ones that was invented so that maps would all be drawn the same way up. > Nice try! But no one here is going to believe yer riduclous propaganda nikki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2003 Report Share Posted August 12, 2003 Hi Peter I LUV astrology! have you ever had yer chart interpretated? you'd be amazed at what the stars and planets know about you tis why I never run a chart fer someone without their permission too personal, much like reading their diary nikki , " Peter " <metalscarab@o...> wrote: > I have to say, this all confuses me - I've never fully understood astronomy or astrology! > > BB > Peter > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2003 Report Share Posted August 12, 2003 Hi Paul That would be in yer opinion, right? Why do you say it tis nonsense? Is it something you have studied to come to this conclusion er just yer thoughts on what you know of the subject? I remember magick being considered nonsense and then they burned people fer it and still no one quite believed fact is, i remember being told veganism was nonsense by people who knew nothing about it as well then there was all that nonsense about the earth being round ah, and nonsense about ... oh, am I going on again? sorry bout that nikki thinking happy thoughts , Paul Russell <prussell@s...> wrote: > > > >I have to say, this all confuses me - I've never fully understood > >astronomy or astrology! > > > > Whoops ! Don't confuse astronomy with astrology. Astronomy is real, > astrology is " new age " nonsense. > > Paul > > -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2003 Report Share Posted August 12, 2003 only if someone comes with me! nikki small, boring bedroom , EBbrewpunx@c... wrote: > oh..fer bacchus' sake..everyone play nice.... > thats it..go to yer rooms.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2003 Report Share Posted August 12, 2003 Hi Nikki > > Incidentally, contrary to the Dangermouse episode, the poles are > > not red and white striped sticks poking out of the ground. > Nice try!> But no one here is going to believe yer riduclous propaganda Honest - they're not red and white at all.... they're green. I mean.. umm... no, just forget I said that :-) BB Peter ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.506 / Virus Database: 303 - Release 01/08/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2003 Report Share Posted August 12, 2003 Hi Nikki > I LUV astrology!> have you ever had yer chart interpretated?> you'd be amazed at what the stars and planets know about you I had it done by a friend about 3 years ago. It was surprisingly accurate in parts, but there was one major thing that was *completely* wrong... about as wrong as you could possibly get! I take a sort of "middle road" on astrology... I see a lot of very good parallels between the moment and place of birth and character, and how various planetary movements affect our emotions etc. but I can't stand these ideas of "fortune telling" through astrology (i.e. the "tabloid" astrology). I also have a big objection to astrology in that I have trouble fully understanding it... it just gets too complex for me! Same with astronomy. There's just too many stars and planets for me to keep an eye on! :-) BB Peter ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.506 / Virus Database: 303 - Release 01/08/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2003 Report Share Posted August 12, 2003 Hi Nikki I have never had a chart done personally. I did one over the internet, and that was pretty good. Any chance ..... :-) :-) :-) Jo - nikki_mackovitch Tuesday, August 12, 2003 12:24 PM Re: Pole Shift (was vegan cookbook) Hi PeterI LUV astrology!have you ever had yer chart interpretated?you'd be amazed at what the stars and planets know about youtis why I never run a chart fer someone without their permissiontoo personal, much like reading their diarynikki , "Peter" <metalscarab@o...> wrote:> I have to say, this all confuses me - I've never fully understood astronomy or astrology!> > BB> Peter> > To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2003 Report Share Posted August 12, 2003 No Nikki - you are not going on again - just being sensible. Jo That would be in yer opinion, right?Why do you say it tis nonsense?Is it something you have studied to come to this conclusioner just yer thoughts on what you know of the subject?I remember magick being considered nonsense and then they burned people fer itand still no one quite believedfact is, i remember being told veganism was nonsense by people who knew nothing about it as wellthen there was all that nonsense about the earth being roundah, and nonsense about ...oh, am I going on again?sorry bout thatnikki :)thinking happy thoughts , Paul Russell <prussell@s...> wrote:> >> >I have to say, this all confuses me - I've never fully understood > >astronomy or astrology!> >> > Whoops ! Don't confuse astronomy with astrology. Astronomy is real, > astrology is "new age" nonsense.> > Paul> > -- To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2003 Report Share Posted August 13, 2003 *Butts in to this subject* ....I as well love astrology, I'd love to have my chat interpretated...some day. Heh. Choa, Sam.Peter <metalscarab wrote: Hi Nikki > I LUV astrology!> have you ever had yer chart interpretated?> you'd be amazed at what the stars and planets know about you I had it done by a friend about 3 years ago. It was surprisingly accurate in parts, but there was one major thing that was *completely* wrong... about as wrong as you could possibly get! I take a sort of "middle road" on astrology... I see a lot of very good parallels between the moment and place of birth and character, and how various planetary movements affect our emotions etc. but I can't stand these ideas of "fortune telling" through astrology (i.e. the "tabloid" astrology). I also have a big objection to astrology in that I have trouble fully understanding it... it just gets too complex for me! Same with astronomy. There's just too many stars and planets for me to keep an eye on! :-) BB Peter ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.506 / Virus Database: 303 - Release 01/08/03To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2003 Report Share Posted August 13, 2003 Hi Peter Ferget you said what? nikki , " Peter " <metalscarab@o...> wrote: > Hi Nikki > > > > Incidentally, contrary to the Dangermouse episode, the poles are > > > not red and white striped sticks poking out of the ground. > > Nice try! > > But no one here is going to believe yer riduclous propaganda > > Honest - they're not red and white at all.... they're green. I mean.. umm... no, just forget I said that :-) > > BB > Peter > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.506 / Virus Database: 303 - Release 01/08/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2003 Report Share Posted August 13, 2003 Thx Jo! nikki , " Peter " <metalscarab@o...> wrote: > No Nikki - you are not going on again - just being sensible. > > Jo > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2003 Report Share Posted August 13, 2003 Hi Jo Absolutely! Email me offlist yer birthdate, time and exact location. If you have latitude longitude as well that's great, if not no biggie I will look it up. The more you know about when/where you were born, the more precise it is. If you do not know the exact time of birth as close as possible will work. The just give me a bit of time and i'll send ya yer actual chart and a few interpretations. And if there is anything specific you are looking for info on (love, family, work, etc) lt me know and i'll try to pinpoint those topics from your houses. But remember, some things need to be taken lightly. Just because it is there, does not mean it is necessarily negative and everything can be worked with! Oh i'm all excited now. LOL I LUV doing charts! Nikki , " Heartwork " <Heartwork@o...> wrote: > Hi Nikki > > I have never had a chart done personally. I did one over the internet, and that was pretty good. > > Any chance ..... :-) :-) :-) > > Jo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2003 Report Share Posted August 13, 2003 Hi Sam, Ok, but first come first served LOL send me yer info as well if ya want nikki , sam hall <luckycharm2315> wrote: > *Butts in to this subject* ....I as well love astrology, I'd love to have my chat interpretated...some day. Heh. > Choa, > Sam. > > Peter <metalscarab@o...> wrote: > Hi Nikki > > > I LUV astrology! > > have you ever had yer chart interpretated? > > you'd be amazed at what the stars and planets know about you > > I had it done by a friend about 3 years ago. It was surprisingly accurate in parts, but there was one major thing that was *completely* wrong... about as wrong as you could possibly get! > > I take a sort of " middle road " on astrology... I see a lot of very good parallels between the moment and place of birth and character, and how various planetary movements affect our emotions etc. but I can't stand these ideas of " fortune telling " through astrology (i.e. the " tabloid " astrology). > > I also have a big objection to astrology in that I have trouble fully understanding it... it just gets too complex for me! Same with astronomy. There's just too many stars and planets for me to keep an eye on! :-) > > BB > Peter > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.506 / Virus Database: 303 - Release 01/08/03 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2003 Report Share Posted August 13, 2003 does that mean vegans are clowns? egads i hope not... clowns are evil... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2003 Report Share Posted August 13, 2003 yay thankyou for putting him right - lots of people assume astology is what new age hippy type people do - people really do stereotype people easily dont they!!!! they also dont know what real astrology is as they usually only read the newspapers horoscopes column!!!! - there is much more to astology than that but i surpose people just call it nonsence and dont bother to look any further, eeks! im rambling and i dont know what im saying!!!! You guys all talk too much - iv been away for a week (helping a friend move house during a heat wave probably isnt the best thing to do!!) but got back and my inbox was full - ive still got 100 messages to read and they are all from you guys, iv been reading your emails so long all the letters are dancing!!!!! - maybe i should take a break. - im not having a go at u guys - i like the way you talk a lot - and there have been some interesting topics - like the pole swap stuff - being into geology kinda got me interested in that. and you guys seem to have good sense of humours - do you reckon thats something all vegans have???? anyway rambled enough got to get back to reading!!!!!!!Peter <metalscarab wrote: Hi Paul > Whoops ! Don't confuse astronomy with astrology. Astronomy is real, > astrology is "new age" nonsense. Ah - I see you're after an argument! In fact, it is only with the creation of a new religion (science) that astronomy and astrology have been seperated. All of the great scientists of the past (Newton, Wren, Haak, Wilkins, Boyle, etc. etc.) all accepted astrology as a part of their research into natural philosophy. I'm intrigued by your use of the term "new age" considering that astrology pre-dates modern science by several millenia. Perhaps it is astrology which is real, and modern science which is "new age nonsense". Incidentally, why do you feel the need to belittle something just because you happen to disagree with it? That sort of attitude usually comes from those insecure in their own beliefs who feel the need to bully others into agreement - either that, or those who just like to stir up trouble. Perhaps you could explain how the much vaunted "birth season effect" studies carried out by psychologists over the past decade differ from astrology? BB Peter ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.506 / Virus Database: 303 - Release 01/08/03To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2003 Report Share Posted August 13, 2003 Hi Nikki > Ferget you said what? Nothing... nothing at all.... honest. BB Peter ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.506 / Virus Database: 303 - Release 01/08/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2003 Report Share Posted August 13, 2003 Hi > and you guys seem to have good sense of humours - do you reckon thats something all vegans have???? Sadly...no! Although I have met more vegans who share my sense of humour than non-vegans, so perhaps there is a loose connection between diet and sense of humour. BB Peter ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.506 / Virus Database: 303 - Release 01/08/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2003 Report Share Posted August 13, 2003 Thanks Nikki - I will email you. I'm all excited now. Jo - nikki_mackovitch Wednesday, August 13, 2003 12:10 PM Re: Pole Shift (was vegan cookbook) Hi JoAbsolutely! :)Email me offlist yer birthdate, time and exact location. If you have latitude longitude as well that's great, if not no biggie I will look it up.The more you know about when/where you were born, the more precise it is. If you do not know the exact time of birth as close as possible will work.The just give me a bit of time and i'll send ya yer actual chart and a few interpretations. And if there is anything specific you are looking for info on (love, family, work, etc) lt me know and i'll try to pinpoint those topics from your houses.But remember, some things need to be taken lightly. Just because it is there, does not mean it is necessarily negative and everything can be worked with! :)Oh i'm all excited now. LOL I LUV doing charts!Nikki , "Heartwork" <Heartwork@o...> wrote:> Hi Nikki> > I have never had a chart done personally. I did one over the internet, and that was pretty good.> > Any chance ..... :-) :-) :-)> > Jo To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2003 Report Share Posted August 13, 2003 Hi Sara I reckon geology must be very interesting. Does your job involve geology? Jo ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.506 / Virus Database: 303 - Release 01/08/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2003 Report Share Posted August 14, 2003 Welcome back! , Magick Nuts <magick_nuts> wrote: > yay thankyou for putting him right - lots of people assume astology is what new age hippy type people do - people really do stereotype people easily dont they!!!! they also dont know what real astrology >is as they usually only read the newspapers horoscopes column!!!! - there is much more to astology than that but i surpose people just call it nonsence and dont bother to look any further, eeks! im >rambling and i dont know what im saying!!!! Nah, not rambling, speaking yer peace > > You guys all talk too much - iv been away for a week (helping a friend move house during a heat wave probably isnt the best thing to do!!) but got back and my inbox was full - ive still got 100 messages to read and they are all from you guys, iv been reading your emails so long all the letters are dancing!!!!! - maybe i should take a break. > Actually, LOL the group was kinda slow fer a bit If you find it easier, you can always get the messages in digest or just read them from the group I usually go to the group, easier fer me to navigate and I get enough emails now as it is > - im not having a go at u guys - i like the way you talk a lot - and there have been some interesting topics - like the pole swap stuff - being into geology kinda got me interested in that. and you guys seem to have good sense of humours - do you reckon thats something all vegans have???? > > anyway rambled enough got to get back to reading!!!!!!! All in all, I think as Vegans we have to have more of a light-hearted side and open minds to deal with those who do not understand our choices. But, there is always the factor that this group is just a great bunch of people too! nikki - buttering up the group Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2003 Report Share Posted August 14, 2003 Hi Peter Nothing puts me more on guard than when someone either says " Honest " or " Trust Me " nikki Thy own importance know. Alexander Pope , " Peter " <metalscarab@o...> wrote: > Hi Nikki > > > Ferget you said what? > > Nothing... nothing at all.... honest. > > BB > Peter > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2003 Report Share Posted August 17, 2003 Im not working at the moment - kinda between things, but im tryin for a part time job in a local supermarket - so no not really and before now iv worked in a pub. but my degree in geology starts this september - i cant wait, the past year or so when ive not been learning iv noticed myself getting dumber!!!!! hehe!!!! i find geology really interesting - my geology alevel teacher was right when you start geology thats it your hooked!!!!!Heartwork <Heartwork wrote: Hi Sara I reckon geology must be very interesting. Does your job involve geology? Jo ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.506 / Virus Database: 303 - Release 01/08/03To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2003 Report Share Posted August 17, 2003 I'm sure you'll enjoy doing your degree. One of my friends at work has just got hers, from the Open University - part-time. She loved the field trips. Good luck. Jo - Magick Nuts Sunday, August 17, 2003 1:53 PM Re: Pole Shift (was vegan cookbook) Im not working at the moment - kinda between things, but im tryin for a part time job in a local supermarket - so no not really and before now iv worked in a pub. but my degree in geology starts this september - i cant wait, the past year or so when ive not been learning iv noticed myself getting dumber!!!!! hehe!!!! i find geology really interesting - my geology alevel teacher was right when you start geology thats it your hooked!!!!!Heartwork <Heartwork wrote: Hi Sara I reckon geology must be very interesting. Does your job involve geology? Jo ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.506 / Virus Database: 303 - Release 01/08/03To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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