Guest guest Report post Posted June 25, 2007 ok so you're just making adig at men here? Emrawfood , Terry Bakhtiari <pablobully wrote: > > yes! I can! > > Antie Em <emusedmary wrote: sheesh > can anybody? > :-) > Em > rawfood , Terry Bakhtiari <pablobully@> wrote: > > > > can men really be exclusive????? > > > > > Anna Bishop <mowthpeece@> wrote: oh did you want > exclusivity? Im sorry...ya shudda said somethin! > > > > i can do that too....but i gotta feelin thats all for show..... > > > > xo > > anna > > > > On 6/21/07, Elchanan <Elchanan@> wrote: > > > Hey, wait a minute ... who just got invited to do what? Huh? Terry Lynn Bakhtiari > May God bless you > Today and always. > www.terrywithpcos.blogspot.com > > > Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 25, 2007 seems like they all act the same so how do I make that distinction! )) Elchanan <Elchanan wrote: You bet!!! But you must learn to distinguish men from boys .... _____ rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of Terry Bakhtiari Friday, June 22, 2007 10:17 AM rawfood Re: [Raw Food] Re: Blue blankie can men really be exclusive????? Anna Bishop <mowthpeece (AT) gmail (DOT) <mowthpeece%40gmail.com> com> wrote: oh did you want exclusivity? Im sorry...ya shudda said somethin! i can do that too....but i gotta feelin thats all for show..... xo anna Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 25, 2007 I for one think cheating is wrong! I find it hard to believe anyone would truly be ahppy 'sharing' ones partner. I know I am way too jealous to ever even think of sharing. I will say once when I saw Ricky Martin in concert I was tempted to stray!!!! Anna Bishop <mowthpeece wrote: i think were designed for serial monogamy. and yes..individual karma... if you want to deny the pain your partner would unvariably feel at your mating with another..then you can asuage your guilt...some folks actually believe it would not bother their mates...some mates even convince themselves it doesnt bother them..and tell their partners this so they believe it too. i dont buy any of it. People will lie to themselves and their mates about how they feel to avoid losing what they fear they cant keep anyway... some lifestyles claim to live happily with open sexuality, but usually its because its done in secret...or in a religious setting, which becomes a higher priority and therefore truly doesnt allow for jealousy. but if you ask people their preference....i dont know anyone that really doesnt want sexual loyalty from their mate... i wouldnt want any man that was so willing to share me anyway...he either doesnt care about me or is cheating..either way...i call that trash. just my opinion.. anna On 6/24/07, Em <emusedmary wrote: > Yes I think it is a choice > I don't however think its natural. > Of course I don't double dip-I'm married and alwasy new that would be > it...of course even after 15 years i still wonder if its a natural > thing to have one mate > As for bad/good karma-thats individual karma > Emrawfood , " Anna Bishop " <mowthpeece wrote: > > > > couldnt delete this one... > > > > one has to want to be exclusive and choose it. > > > > but its a hard tempation to resist...harder than food for some... > > > > shall we discuss whether people have choice in this behavior?...or > maybe not... > > > > i for one dont double dip....hence the surgical severance of my online > > tryst with our diet guru....i dont even like pretending im double > > dipping.. > > > > its bad karma.. > > > > peace > > anna > > > > On 6/23/07, Antie Em <emusedmary wrote: > > > sheesh > > > can anybody? > > > :-) > > > Em > > > rawfood , Terry Bakhtiari <pablobully@> wrote: > > > > > > > > can men really be exclusive????? > > > > > > > > > > > Anna Bishop <mowthpeece@> wrote: oh did you want > > > exclusivity? Im sorry...ya shudda said somethin! > > > > > > > > i can do that too....but i gotta feelin thats all for show..... > > > > > > > > xo > > > > anna > > > > > > > > On 6/21/07, Elchanan <Elchanan@> wrote: > > > > > Hey, wait a minute ... who just got invited to do what? Huh? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 25, 2007 I think you are lucky to of known most men to be honest or perhaps y ou just didn't know they were lying. Sorry I don't want to male bash BUT it has been my experience and knowledge of many other situations that given the opportunity men tend to stray. Em <emusedmary wrote: I'm not denying anything I'm married not dead So if I am attracted to someone NOW that I am married I DON'T act on it Marriage is work I disagree that we were designed for it designed by whom..? I don't believe in open marriages. But that is MY belief Before marriage well that depends on the couple in my experience men have always been honest if its a relationship based on exclusivity it is if its not then it isn't I don't think that someone is trash unless they are lying about it Em rawfood , " Anna Bishop " <mowthpeece wrote: > > i think were designed for serial monogamy. > > and yes..individual karma... > > if you want to deny the pain your partner would unvariably feel at > your mating with another..then you can asuage your guilt...some folks > actually believe it would not bother their mates...some mates even > convince themselves it doesnt bother them..and tell their partners > this so they believe it too. > > i dont buy any of it. People will lie to themselves and their mates > about how they feel to avoid losing what they fear they cant keep > anyway... > > some lifestyles claim to live happily with open sexuality, but usually > its because its done in secret...or in a religious setting, which > becomes a higher priority and therefore truly doesnt allow for > jealousy. > > but if you ask people their preference....i dont know anyone that > really doesnt want sexual loyalty from their mate... > i wouldnt want any man that was so willing to share me anyway...he > either doesnt care about me or is cheating..either way...i call that > trash. > > just my opinion.. > anna > > On 6/24/07, Em <emusedmary wrote: > > Yes I think it is a choice > > I don't however think its natural. > > Of course I don't double dip-I'm married and alwasy new that would be > > it...of course even after 15 years i still wonder if its a natural > > thing to have one mate > > As for bad/good karma-thats individual karma > > Emrawfood , " Anna Bishop " <mowthpeece@> wrote: > > > > > > couldnt delete this one... > > > > > > one has to want to be exclusive and choose it. > > > > > > but its a hard tempation to resist...harder than food for some... > > > > > > shall we discuss whether people have choice in this behavior?...or > > maybe not... > > > > > > i for one dont double dip....hence the surgical severance of my online > > > tryst with our diet guru....i dont even like pretending im double > > > dipping.. > > > > > > its bad karma.. > > > > > > peace > > > anna > > > > > > On 6/23/07, Antie Em <emusedmary@> wrote: > > > > sheesh > > > > can anybody? > > > > :-) > > > > Em > > > > rawfood , Terry Bakhtiari <pablobully@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > can men really be exclusive????? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anna Bishop <mowthpeece@> wrote: oh did you want > > > > exclusivity? Im sorry...ya shudda said somethin! > > > > > > > > > > i can do that too....but i gotta feelin thats all for show..... > > > > > > > > > > xo > > > > > anna > > > > > > > > > > On 6/21/07, Elchanan <Elchanan@> wrote: > > > > > > Hey, wait a minute ... who just got invited to do what? Huh? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 25, 2007 sometimes I don't think people so much as 'fall out of love' as they decide they aren't willing to put the work in the relationship that it requires. I think we are taught young that love is supposed to be that butterflies in your stomach feeling then when that wears off we must not be in love anymore. Anna Bishop <mowthpeece wrote: i believe i used the word cheating right before trash...as well as not caring for me....which if theyr stringing me along equals lying..so im happy with my use of the word trash there... as for who designed what....serial monogamy seems to be how humans end up behaving when left to their own.....its good for the offspring that both parents are at least in love until the age of self sufficiency. Apx 4-5yrs. ...which explains why we tend to fall out of love about that time.. we cant ignore love when trying to explain sexual behavior...its only purpose is to keep the pair together..otherwise wed be like bunnies...this would not insure the welfare of the offspring...quite the contrary.. probably the best book ive read on the subject is " the anatomy of love " ...written in the 80s or 90s i think..really brilliant. Describes mating from an evolutionary standpoint..another great one is " sperm wars " ...this one is not as heavily referenced as " anatomy... " ..so it may be a theory only..but BOY does it decribe us well! On 6/24/07, Em <emusedmary wrote: > I'm not denying anything > I'm married > not dead > So if I am attracted to someone > NOW > that I am married I DON'T act on it > Marriage is work > I disagree that we were designed for it > designed by whom..? > > I don't believe in open marriages. > But that is MY belief > Before marriage well that depends on the couple > in my experience men have always been honest > if its a relationship based on exclusivity it is > if its not then it isn't > I don't think that someone is trash unless they are lying about it > Em > > rawfood , " Anna Bishop " <mowthpeece wrote: > > > > i think were designed for serial monogamy. > > > > and yes..individual karma... > > > > if you want to deny the pain your partner would unvariably feel at > > your mating with another..then you can asuage your guilt...some folks > > actually believe it would not bother their mates...some mates even > > convince themselves it doesnt bother them..and tell their partners > > this so they believe it too. > > > > i dont buy any of it. People will lie to themselves and their mates > > about how they feel to avoid losing what they fear they cant keep > > anyway... > > > > some lifestyles claim to live happily with open sexuality, but usually > > its because its done in secret...or in a religious setting, which > > becomes a higher priority and therefore truly doesnt allow for > > jealousy. > > > > but if you ask people their preference....i dont know anyone that > > really doesnt want sexual loyalty from their mate... > > i wouldnt want any man that was so willing to share me anyway...he > > either doesnt care about me or is cheating..either way...i call that > > trash. > > > > just my opinion.. > > anna > > > > On 6/24/07, Em <emusedmary wrote: > > > Yes I think it is a choice > > > I don't however think its natural. > > > Of course I don't double dip-I'm married and alwasy new that would be > > > it...of course even after 15 years i still wonder if its a natural > > > thing to have one mate > > > As for bad/good karma-thats individual karma > > > Emrawfood , " Anna Bishop " <mowthpeece@> wrote: > > > > > > > > couldnt delete this one... > > > > > > > > one has to want to be exclusive and choose it. > > > > > > > > but its a hard tempation to resist...harder than food for some... > > > > > > > > shall we discuss whether people have choice in this behavior?...or > > > maybe not... > > > > > > > > i for one dont double dip....hence the surgical severance of my > online > > > > tryst with our diet guru....i dont even like pretending im double > > > > dipping.. > > > > > > > > its bad karma.. > > > > > > > > peace > > > > anna > > > > > > > > On 6/23/07, Antie Em <emusedmary@> wrote: > > > > > sheesh > > > > > can anybody? > > > > > :-) > > > > > Em > > > > > rawfood , Terry Bakhtiari <pablobully@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > can men really be exclusive????? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anna Bishop <mowthpeece@> wrote: oh did you want > > > > > exclusivity? Im sorry...ya shudda said somethin! > > > > > > > > > > > > i can do that too....but i gotta feelin thats all for show..... > > > > > > > > > > > > xo > > > > > > anna > > > > > > > > > > > > On 6/21/07, Elchanan <Elchanan@> wrote: > > > > > > > Hey, wait a minute ... who just got invited to do what? Huh? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 25, 2007 yep Em <emusedmary wrote: ok so you're just making adig at men here? Emrawfood , Terry Bakhtiari <pablobully wrote: > > yes! I can! > > Antie Em <emusedmary wrote: sheesh > can anybody? > :-) > Em > rawfood , Terry Bakhtiari <pablobully@> wrote: > > > > can men really be exclusive????? > > > > > Anna Bishop <mowthpeece@> wrote: oh did you want > exclusivity? Im sorry...ya shudda said somethin! > > > > i can do that too....but i gotta feelin thats all for show..... > > > > xo > > anna > > > > On 6/21/07, Elchanan <Elchanan@> wrote: > > > Hey, wait a minute ... who just got invited to do what? Huh? Terry Lynn Bakhtiari > May God bless you > Today and always. > www.terrywithpcos.blogspot.com > > > Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 25, 2007 Whew, I got my hands full with one man. Why in the WORLD would I want another one. Nope, one good one is all I need or want. I have had the same one for almost 28 years. Like fine wine, he gets better with age.) Belinda rawfood , Terry Bakhtiari <pablobully wrote: > > I for one think cheating is wrong! I find it hard to believe anyone would truly be ahppy 'sharing' ones partner. I know I am way too jealous to ever even think of sharing. I will say once when I saw Ricky Martin in concert I was tempted to stray!!!! > > Anna Bishop <mowthpeece wrote: i think were designed for serial monogamy. > > and yes..individual karma... > > if you want to deny the pain your partner would unvariably feel at > your mating with another..then you can asuage your guilt...some folks > actually believe it would not bother their mates...some mates even > convince themselves it doesnt bother them..and tell their partners > this so they believe it too. > > i dont buy any of it. People will lie to themselves and their mates > about how they feel to avoid losing what they fear they cant keep > anyway... > > some lifestyles claim to live happily with open sexuality, but usually > its because its done in secret...or in a religious setting, which > becomes a higher priority and therefore truly doesnt allow for > jealousy. > > but if you ask people their preference....i dont know anyone that > really doesnt want sexual loyalty from their mate... > i wouldnt want any man that was so willing to share me anyway...he > either doesnt care about me or is cheating..either way...i call that > trash. > > just my opinion.. > anna > > On 6/24/07, Em <emusedmary wrote: > > Yes I think it is a choice > > I don't however think its natural. > > Of course I don't double dip-I'm married and alwasy new that would be > > it...of course even after 15 years i still wonder if its a natural > > thing to have one mate > > As for bad/good karma-thats individual karma > > Emrawfood , " Anna Bishop " <mowthpeece@> wrote: > > > > > > couldnt delete this one... > > > > > > one has to want to be exclusive and choose it. > > > > > > but its a hard tempation to resist...harder than food for some... > > > > > > shall we discuss whether people have choice in this behavior?...or > > maybe not... > > > > > > i for one dont double dip....hence the surgical severance of my online > > > tryst with our diet guru....i dont even like pretending im double > > > dipping.. > > > > > > its bad karma.. > > > > > > peace > > > anna > > > > > > On 6/23/07, Antie Em <emusedmary@> wrote: > > > > sheesh > > > > can anybody? > > > > :-) > > > > Em > > > > rawfood , Terry Bakhtiari <pablobully@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > can men really be exclusive????? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anna Bishop <mowthpeece@> wrote: oh did you want > > > > exclusivity? Im sorry...ya shudda said somethin! > > > > > > > > > > i can do that too....but i gotta feelin thats all for show..... > > > > > > > > > > xo > > > > > anna > > > > > > > > > > On 6/21/07, Elchanan <Elchanan@> wrote: > > > > > > Hey, wait a minute ... who just got invited to do what? Huh? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 26, 2007 I have a large imagination ... and some things defy my imagination. Who on Earth would ever consider a 5-year-old " self-sufficient " ? _____ rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of jeannieh h Monday, June 25, 2007 6:22 AM rawfood Re: [Raw Food] Re: Blue blankie Anna, You wrote:..... " its good for the offspring that both parents are at least in love until the age of self sufficiency. Apx 4-5yrs. ...which explains why we tend to fall out of love about that time.. " Who are the " we " you speak of?? I personally know of 3 of my friends that have been married many years and are still going strong. I also have a fantastic marriage that has no sign of fizzleing out. The problem could be that since marriage is so much work there might be people not willing to or not able to work it as needed? I don't know, the answer is perhaps as different as the situation. I just know for a fact that there are marriages that are long term and just as happy now, if not happier than they were in the begining. Just my opinion. Jeannie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 26, 2007 Just as the only way to create health is from the inside, out, so it is with one's perceptual system. The shift you seek is not in men, but in your own perceptual system. There are distinctions you may not presently notice, that sort of thing. Elchanan _____ rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of Terry Bakhtiari Monday, June 25, 2007 8:25 AM rawfood RE: [Raw Food] Re: Blue blankie seems like they all act the same so how do I make that distinction! )) Elchanan <Elchanan@PathOfHeal <Elchanan%40PathOfHealth.org> th.org> wrote: You bet!!! But you must learn to distinguish men from boys .... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 26, 2007 LOL, Yeah, ROTFLMAO!!! You know they grow up so quickly these days........ ya gotta kick em out early!! Jeannie your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one. Elchanan <Elchanan rawfood Monday, June 25, 2007 6:12:36 PM RE: [Raw Food] Re: Blue blankie I have a large imagination ... and some things defy my imagination. Who on Earth would ever consider a 5-year-old " self-sufficient " ? _____ rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of jeannieh h Monday, June 25, 2007 6:22 AM rawfood Re: [Raw Food] Re: Blue blankie Anna, You wrote:..... " its good for the offspring that both parents are at least in love until the age of self sufficiency. Apx 4-5yrs. ...which explains why we tend to fall out of love about that time.. " Who are the " we " you speak of?? I personally know of 3 of my friends that have been married many years and are still going strong. I also have a fantastic marriage that has no sign of fizzleing out. The problem could be that since marriage is so much work there might be people not willing to or not able to work it as needed? I don't know, the answer is perhaps as different as the situation. I just know for a fact that there are marriages that are long term and just as happy now, if not happier than they were in the begining. Just my opinion. Jeannie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 26, 2007 aw Belinda that is sweet! I love to hear that! 28 years is a long time especially now a days! Seems like most people I know don't make it near that long. They seem to think oh there is a problem so I will just move to the next person! Belinda <MistyBlueTN wrote: Whew, I got my hands full with one man. Why in the WORLD would I want another one. Nope, one good one is all I need or want. I have had the same one for almost 28 years. Like fine wine, he gets better with age.) Belinda rawfood , Terry Bakhtiari <pablobully wrote: > > I for one think cheating is wrong! I find it hard to believe anyone would truly be ahppy 'sharing' ones partner. I know I am way too jealous to ever even think of sharing. I will say once when I saw Ricky Martin in concert I was tempted to stray!!!! > > Anna Bishop <mowthpeece wrote: i think were designed for serial monogamy. > > and yes..individual karma... > > if you want to deny the pain your partner would unvariably feel at > your mating with another..then you can asuage your guilt...some folks > actually believe it would not bother their mates...some mates even > convince themselves it doesnt bother them..and tell their partners > this so they believe it too. > > i dont buy any of it. People will lie to themselves and their mates > about how they feel to avoid losing what they fear they cant keep > anyway... > > some lifestyles claim to live happily with open sexuality, but usually > its because its done in secret...or in a religious setting, which > becomes a higher priority and therefore truly doesnt allow for > jealousy. > > but if you ask people their preference....i dont know anyone that > really doesnt want sexual loyalty from their mate... > i wouldnt want any man that was so willing to share me anyway...he > either doesnt care about me or is cheating..either way...i call that > trash. > > just my opinion.. > anna > > On 6/24/07, Em <emusedmary wrote: > > Yes I think it is a choice > > I don't however think its natural. > > Of course I don't double dip-I'm married and alwasy new that would be > > it...of course even after 15 years i still wonder if its a natural > > thing to have one mate > > As for bad/good karma-thats individual karma > > Emrawfood , " Anna Bishop " <mowthpeece@> wrote: > > > > > > couldnt delete this one... > > > > > > one has to want to be exclusive and choose it. > > > > > > but its a hard tempation to resist...harder than food for some... > > > > > > shall we discuss whether people have choice in this behavior?...or > > maybe not... > > > > > > i for one dont double dip....hence the surgical severance of my online > > > tryst with our diet guru....i dont even like pretending im double > > > dipping.. > > > > > > its bad karma.. > > > > > > peace > > > anna > > > > > > On 6/23/07, Antie Em <emusedmary@> wrote: > > > > sheesh > > > > can anybody? > > > > :-) > > > > Em > > > > rawfood , Terry Bakhtiari <pablobully@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > can men really be exclusive????? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anna Bishop <mowthpeece@> wrote: oh did you want > > > > exclusivity? Im sorry...ya shudda said somethin! > > > > > > > > > > i can do that too....but i gotta feelin thats all for show..... > > > > > > > > > > xo > > > > > anna > > > > > > > > > > On 6/21/07, Elchanan <Elchanan@> wrote: > > > > > > Hey, wait a minute ... who just got invited to do what? Huh? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 26, 2007 Well it does take a lot of work on both sides. Most do not realize it going in. Boundries must be set. With each other and with others. Many marriages fail or struggle because of outsiders. Children is a big one, parents interfering is another. And then is the jobs that can consume way to much of your time. Your spouse must be your best friend, and put first among all others. Including the very demanding children. I know, I have three. I learned that our children had to be brought into OUR lives, not us into theirs. But marriage is like any other relationship in that it takes a lot of give and take, understanding, patience, etc. Whether the reltionship is with best friends, siblings, parent/child, co-workers. It takes work. And if one is not willing to do that, one is going to be a very lonely person. Belinda rawfood , Terry Bakhtiari <pablobully wrote: > > aw Belinda that is sweet! I love to hear that! 28 years is a long time especially now a days! Seems like most people I know don't make it near that long. They seem to think oh there is a problem so I will just move to the next person! > > Belinda <MistyBlueTN wrote: Whew, I got my hands full with one man. Why in the WORLD would I > want another one. > Nope, one good one is all I need or want. I have had the same one > for almost 28 years. Like fine wine, he gets better with age.) > > Belinda > > rawfood , Terry Bakhtiari <pablobully@> > wrote: > > > > I for one think cheating is wrong! I find it hard to believe anyone > would truly be ahppy 'sharing' ones partner. I know I am way too > jealous to ever even think of sharing. I will say once when I saw > Ricky Martin in concert I was tempted to stray!!!! > > > > Anna Bishop <mowthpeece@> wrote: i think were designed > for serial monogamy. > > > > and yes..individual karma... > > > > if you want to deny the pain your partner would unvariably feel at > > your mating with another..then you can asuage your guilt...some > folks > > actually believe it would not bother their mates...some mates even > > convince themselves it doesnt bother them..and tell their partners > > this so they believe it too. > > > > i dont buy any of it. People will lie to themselves and their mates > > about how they feel to avoid losing what they fear they cant keep > > anyway... > > > > some lifestyles claim to live happily with open sexuality, but > usually > > its because its done in secret...or in a religious setting, which > > becomes a higher priority and therefore truly doesnt allow for > > jealousy. > > > > but if you ask people their preference....i dont know anyone that > > really doesnt want sexual loyalty from their mate... > > i wouldnt want any man that was so willing to share me anyway...he > > either doesnt care about me or is cheating..either way...i call that > > trash. > > > > just my opinion.. > > anna > > > > On 6/24/07, Em <emusedmary@> wrote: > > > Yes I think it is a choice > > > I don't however think its natural. > > > Of course I don't double dip-I'm married and alwasy new that > would be > > > it...of course even after 15 years i still wonder if its a natural > > > thing to have one mate > > > As for bad/good karma-thats individual karma > > > Emrawfood , " Anna Bishop " <mowthpeece@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > couldnt delete this one... > > > > > > > > one has to want to be exclusive and choose it. > > > > > > > > but its a hard tempation to resist...harder than food for > some... > > > > > > > > shall we discuss whether people have choice in this > behavior?...or > > > maybe not... > > > > > > > > i for one dont double dip....hence the surgical severance of my > online > > > > tryst with our diet guru....i dont even like pretending im > double > > > > dipping.. > > > > > > > > its bad karma.. > > > > > > > > peace > > > > anna > > > > > > > > On 6/23/07, Antie Em <emusedmary@> wrote: > > > > > sheesh > > > > > can anybody? > > > > > :-) > > > > > Em > > > > > rawfood , Terry Bakhtiari <pablobully@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > can men really be exclusive????? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anna Bishop <mowthpeece@> wrote: oh did you want > > > > > exclusivity? Im sorry...ya shudda said somethin! > > > > > > > > > > > > i can do that too....but i gotta feelin thats all for > show..... > > > > > > > > > > > > xo > > > > > > anna > > > > > > > > > > > > On 6/21/07, Elchanan <Elchanan@> wrote: > > > > > > > Hey, wait a minute ... who just got invited to do what? > Huh? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 26, 2007 " I read a travelog from the 1920s in northern canada. Seems that in eskimo culture it was good manners to offer your wife to honored visitors. " Also thought of as a " house warming gift " Jeannie your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one. The Raw Retreat <therawretreat rawfood Sunday, June 24, 2007 6:15:07 PM [Raw Food] Re: Blue blankie And how about the cultures with multiple wives, multiple husbands, etc.? I read a travelog from the 1920s in northern canada. Seems that in eskimo culture it was good manners to offer your wife to honored visitors. You might peruse http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polygamy Seems humans have tried it all. Whatever we grow up in is what's natural. And the more rules, the more guilt, the more psychological acting out... Enjoy it however you like it! ..wyn The Raw Retreat http://TheRawRetreat.com o) 888.EAT.RAW4LIFE f) 877.236.6999 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 26, 2007 Belinda, I agree with your post. Marriage is alot of give and take and alot of trial and errors. I agree 100% that you have to be best friends first. My dh and I are best friends first. It is a lot of hard work, constant work but it is work that (to me) is worth more than anything in life. It beets (to me) having to grow old and be alone. You learn to let the " little things " go. Just like with any relationships, you have to pick your battles. Marriage rocks............if you work it right. Jeannie your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one. Belinda <MistyBlueTN rawfood Tuesday, June 26, 2007 7:38:11 AM [Raw Food] Re: Blue blankie Well it does take a lot of work on both sides. Most do not realize it going in. Boundries must be set. With each other and with others. Many marriages fail or struggle because of outsiders. Children is a big one, parents interfering is another. And then is the jobs that can consume way to much of your time. Your spouse must be your best friend, and put first among all others. Including the very demanding children. I know, I have three. I learned that our children had to be brought into OUR lives, not us into theirs. But marriage is like any other relationship in that it takes a lot of give and take, understanding, patience, etc. Whether the reltionship is with best friends, siblings, parent/child, co-workers. It takes work. And if one is not willing to do that, one is going to be a very lonely person. Belinda rawfood , Terry Bakhtiari <pablobully wrote: > > aw Belinda that is sweet! I love to hear that! 28 years is a long time especially now a days! Seems like most people I know don't make it near that long. They seem to think oh there is a problem so I will just move to the next person! > > Belinda <MistyBlueTN wrote: Whew, I got my hands full with one man. Why in the WORLD would I > want another one. > Nope, one good one is all I need or want. I have had the same one > for almost 28 years. Like fine wine, he gets better with age.) > > Belinda > > rawfood , Terry Bakhtiari <pablobully@> > wrote: > > > > I for one think cheating is wrong! I find it hard to believe anyone > would truly be ahppy 'sharing' ones partner. I know I am way too > jealous to ever even think of sharing. I will say once when I saw > Ricky Martin in concert I was tempted to stray!!!! > > > > Anna Bishop <mowthpeece@> wrote: i think were designed > for serial monogamy. > > > > and yes..individual karma... > > > > if you want to deny the pain your partner would unvariably feel at > > your mating with another..then you can asuage your guilt...some > folks > > actually believe it would not bother their mates...some mates even > > convince themselves it doesnt bother them..and tell their partners > > this so they believe it too. > > > > i dont buy any of it. People will lie to themselves and their mates > > about how they feel to avoid losing what they fear they cant keep > > anyway... > > > > some lifestyles claim to live happily with open sexuality, but > usually > > its because its done in secret...or in a religious setting, which > > becomes a higher priority and therefore truly doesnt allow for > > jealousy. > > > > but if you ask people their preference....i dont know anyone that > > really doesnt want sexual loyalty from their mate... > > i wouldnt want any man that was so willing to share me anyway...he > > either doesnt care about me or is cheating..either way...i call that > > trash. > > > > just my opinion.. > > anna > > > > On 6/24/07, Em <emusedmary@> wrote: > > > Yes I think it is a choice > > > I don't however think its natural. > > > Of course I don't double dip-I'm married and alwasy new that > would be > > > it...of course even after 15 years i still wonder if its a natural > > > thing to have one mate > > > As for bad/good karma-thats individual karma > > > Emrawfood , " Anna Bishop " <mowthpeece@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > couldnt delete this one... > > > > > > > > one has to want to be exclusive and choose it. > > > > > > > > but its a hard tempation to resist...harder than food for > some... > > > > > > > > shall we discuss whether people have choice in this > behavior?...or > > > maybe not... > > > > > > > > i for one dont double dip....hence the surgical severance of my > online > > > > tryst with our diet guru....i dont even like pretending im > double > > > > dipping.. > > > > > > > > its bad karma.. > > > > > > > > peace > > > > anna > > > > > > > > On 6/23/07, Antie Em <emusedmary@> wrote: > > > > > sheesh > > > > > can anybody? > > > > > :-) > > > > > Em > > > > > rawfood , Terry Bakhtiari <pablobully@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > can men really be exclusive????? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anna Bishop <mowthpeece@> wrote: oh did you want > > > > > exclusivity? Im sorry...ya shudda said somethin! > > > > > > > > > > > > i can do that too....but i gotta feelin thats all for > show..... > > > > > > > > > > > > xo > > > > > > anna > > > > > > > > > > > > On 6/21/07, Elchanan <Elchanan@> wrote: > > > > > > > Hey, wait a minute ... who just got invited to do what? > Huh? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 26, 2007 all I know is if my husband 'offers' me to any of our visitors he will be sleeping on the porch jeannieh h <jeannieh99 wrote: " I read a travelog from the 1920s in northern canada. Seems that in eskimo culture it was good manners to offer your wife to honored visitors. " Also thought of as a " house warming gift " Jeannie your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one. The Raw Retreat <therawretreat rawfood Sunday, June 24, 2007 6:15:07 PM [Raw Food] Re: Blue blankie And how about the cultures with multiple wives, multiple husbands, etc.? I read a travelog from the 1920s in northern canada. Seems that in eskimo culture it was good manners to offer your wife to honored visitors. You might peruse http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polygamy Seems humans have tried it all. Whatever we grow up in is what's natural. And the more rules, the more guilt, the more psychological acting out... Enjoy it however you like it! ..wyn The Raw Retreat http://TheRawRetreat.com o) 888.EAT.RAW4LIFE f) 877.236.6999 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 26, 2007 Jeannie picking your battles is key I think! Although it is something I struggle with sometimes jeannieh h <jeannieh99 wrote: Belinda, I agree with your post. Marriage is alot of give and take and alot of trial and errors. I agree 100% that you have to be best friends first. My dh and I are best friends first. It is a lot of hard work, constant work but it is work that (to me) is worth more than anything in life. It beets (to me) having to grow old and be alone. You learn to let the " little things " go. Just like with any relationships, you have to pick your battles. Marriage rocks............if you work it right. Jeannie your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one. Belinda <MistyBlueTN rawfood Tuesday, June 26, 2007 7:38:11 AM [Raw Food] Re: Blue blankie Well it does take a lot of work on both sides. Most do not realize it going in. Boundries must be set. With each other and with others. Many marriages fail or struggle because of outsiders. Children is a big one, parents interfering is another. And then is the jobs that can consume way to much of your time. Your spouse must be your best friend, and put first among all others. Including the very demanding children. I know, I have three. I learned that our children had to be brought into OUR lives, not us into theirs. But marriage is like any other relationship in that it takes a lot of give and take, understanding, patience, etc. Whether the reltionship is with best friends, siblings, parent/child, co-workers. It takes work. And if one is not willing to do that, one is going to be a very lonely person. Belinda rawfood , Terry Bakhtiari <pablobully wrote: > > aw Belinda that is sweet! I love to hear that! 28 years is a long time especially now a days! Seems like most people I know don't make it near that long. They seem to think oh there is a problem so I will just move to the next person! > > Belinda <MistyBlueTN wrote: Whew, I got my hands full with one man. Why in the WORLD would I > want another one. > Nope, one good one is all I need or want. I have had the same one > for almost 28 years. Like fine wine, he gets better with age.) > > Belinda > > rawfood , Terry Bakhtiari <pablobully@> > wrote: > > > > I for one think cheating is wrong! I find it hard to believe anyone > would truly be ahppy 'sharing' ones partner. I know I am way too > jealous to ever even think of sharing. I will say once when I saw > Ricky Martin in concert I was tempted to stray!!!! > > > > Anna Bishop <mowthpeece@> wrote: i think were designed > for serial monogamy. > > > > and yes..individual karma... > > > > if you want to deny the pain your partner would unvariably feel at > > your mating with another..then you can asuage your guilt...some > folks > > actually believe it would not bother their mates...some mates even > > convince themselves it doesnt bother them..and tell their partners > > this so they believe it too. > > > > i dont buy any of it. People will lie to themselves and their mates > > about how they feel to avoid losing what they fear they cant keep > > anyway... > > > > some lifestyles claim to live happily with open sexuality, but > usually > > its because its done in secret...or in a religious setting, which > > becomes a higher priority and therefore truly doesnt allow for > > jealousy. > > > > but if you ask people their preference....i dont know anyone that > > really doesnt want sexual loyalty from their mate... > > i wouldnt want any man that was so willing to share me anyway...he > > either doesnt care about me or is cheating..either way...i call that > > trash. > > > > just my opinion.. > > anna > > > > On 6/24/07, Em <emusedmary@> wrote: > > > Yes I think it is a choice > > > I don't however think its natural. > > > Of course I don't double dip-I'm married and alwasy new that > would be > > > it...of course even after 15 years i still wonder if its a natural > > > thing to have one mate > > > As for bad/good karma-thats individual karma > > > Emrawfood , " Anna Bishop " <mowthpeece@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > couldnt delete this one... > > > > > > > > one has to want to be exclusive and choose it. > > > > > > > > but its a hard tempation to resist...harder than food for > some... > > > > > > > > shall we discuss whether people have choice in this > behavior?...or > > > maybe not... > > > > > > > > i for one dont double dip....hence the surgical severance of my > online > > > > tryst with our diet guru....i dont even like pretending im > double > > > > dipping.. > > > > > > > > its bad karma.. > > > > > > > > peace > > > > anna > > > > > > > > On 6/23/07, Antie Em <emusedmary@> wrote: > > > > > sheesh > > > > > can anybody? > > > > > :-) > > > > > Em > > > > > rawfood , Terry Bakhtiari <pablobully@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > can men really be exclusive????? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anna Bishop <mowthpeece@> wrote: oh did you want > > > > > exclusivity? Im sorry...ya shudda said somethin! > > > > > > > > > > > > i can do that too....but i gotta feelin thats all for > show..... > > > > > > > > > > > > xo > > > > > > anna > > > > > > > > > > > > On 6/21/07, Elchanan <Elchanan@> wrote: > > > > > > > Hey, wait a minute ... who just got invited to do what? > Huh? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
