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:-)rawfood , jeannieh h <jeannieh99 wrote:

>

> Em,

>

> That is " raw " attraction. LOL

>

> I didn't do a drawing, however, I have two framed pictures of

veggies and in one is garlic.........LOL

>

> We are garlic buddies...........we have to detox from garlic together!!!

>

>

> Jeannie

>

> your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to

no one.

>

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On Friday 22 June 2007 13:11, Antie Em wrote:

> Anyway-I would like to see more real research on this myself so I am

> very glad you posted.

 

Hi Antie Em (and Rudy)

 

I'm going to have to route through my rather large pile of Nexus magazines and

try to find the article published regarding Garlic. Nexus is an excellent

source of independent research into health, publishing articles that folks

like the FDA and CDC try to suppress.

 

Just from memory, the only negative I can remember is that eating garlic has

an effect on brain chemistry making people slow and dull mentally.

 

(personally I do not see that as a bad thing. Perhaps it's a good precursor to

meditation? LOL)

 

neal.

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If you are hypothyroid and on thyroid meds, PLEASE don't go off your meds. I

know plenty of raw foodists who have done that prematurely, it only made things

tons worse. And boy did they feel better getting on salt again for that thyroid,

after giving it up " for health " .

 

 

 

 

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Hi Jeannie,

 

That's been a couple months ago, so I can't remember

exactly what we ate. I know that we had fruit

smoothies for breakfast each morning (bananas, mango,

berries), lunch was fresh fruit (usually several

apples, or melon). I was not completely raw at the

time, so in the evenings we would have a large salad

and then a small serving of steamed veggies on the

side. The food did taste bland at first, without

salt. I can tell you I prefer my food raw...steamed

is not so good because all the flavor is cooked out.

I think it would have been even easier for us if I was

not steaming veggies at that time. You will feel

better once you are able to leave the salt behind.

Your taste buds will adjust and food will taste good

again. I really enjoy chopped golden delicious apples

on my salad and mango is good as well. Try adding

some fruit. Good luck :)

 

~Sarah

 

--- jeannieh h <jeannieh99 wrote:

 

> Sarah,

>

> I needed to hear that. Wow, you both lost 8 # in

> one week JUST from eliminating salt??!!! Woweeeee!

>

> Just curious. Do you mind giving me an example of

> what you ate in that week?

>

>

> I am so not going to eat salt. Hard as it may be.

>

> I still have a love affair with salt but I guess I

> have to look at it as.......the love I can't have.

> LOL

>

> Jeannie

>

> your time is the most cherished gift of all,

> tomorrow is promised to no one.

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

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> I just can't resolve the issue in my head that if

> all these things are so bad for us, why did God put

> them here for us to eat?

> What do we do with them? What is or was their

> purpose in being here?

 

 

I don't believe that they were all put here for us to

eat. Some plants are beautiful, and color our world,

some repell pests, trees provide shade and shelter,

plants protect against erosion, plants provide

habitats for wildlife....

 

I do believe that over the course of time different

individuals may have tasted a plant not intended to be

used as food, experienced some sort of stimulating

effect from that plant, and made it a part of their

daily diet for the effects it had (mentally or

physically). They probably took it back to the tribe

and shared the new " rush " with friends and family.

Others may have not liked the effects, but liked the

flavors and kept it just to compliment other foods.

Down through the ages these plants infiltrated society

as edible food.

 

I've learned over the past few years, that not

everything I've been brought up to believe is

accurate. Many " Super Foods " (garlic, etc.) are

actually poison for me. Our body is fully capable of

giving us the answers we need. The truth isn't that

hard to find. It's usually staring us right in the

face :)

 

~Sarah

 

 

 

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Hi,

 

I don't know if it's been offered yet, and I haven't even read any of these

study(ies) published by Nexus, but we do have to remember that even

experiments with human subjects can be misleading--most human subjects are

chronically unhealthy and do not eat raw foods. So even the results from

these studies may mean little to people in a group such as this.

 

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you are right my friend, I did take myself off of my synthroid and boy did I

suffer. I don't like having to take meds and was looking forward to not needing

to take them just by changing my diet to 100% raw. I do want to be able to do

this at some point, if that will be possible. I am told it is possible and I am

told that many people have done this with no problems. Alas I have had to begin

taking my synthroid again and at a smaller dose since it has to be titrated.I

had my labwork done and my results were so far off the charts the doctor got

angry and said it is no wonder I was having so many of the symptoms.

 

I am going to try to learn more about seaweed, dulse and other sea vegetables.

 

Jeannie

 

your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one.

 

 

 

 

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rawfood

Friday, June 22, 2007 10:17:48 AM

[Raw Food] Re: Salt again, I suppose

 

 

If you are hypothyroid and on thyroid meds, PLEASE don't go off your meds. I

know plenty of raw foodists who have done that prematurely, it only made things

tons worse. And boy did they feel better getting on salt again for that thyroid,

after giving it up " for health " .

 

 

 

 

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Good lord!!! Yes, this is one well-documented " side effect " . Pilots are

prohibited from eating garlic before flying, I believe ... read that but

haven't verified.

 

No matter what articles you find, you cannot reverse your own system's

response IF you will stop for awhile, then eat garlic. Em, let go of your

desire for scientific confirmation ... almost all the studies are just plain

wrong. They are done misusing various statistical methods, on a sick

population, without regard for the biology underneath. Or, read all the

studies in the world ... and remain confused.

 

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neal

Friday, June 22, 2007 8:11 AM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] Re: Salt again, I suppose

 

 

Just from memory, the only negative I can remember is that eating garlic has

 

an effect on brain chemistry making people slow and dull mentally.

 

(personally I do not see that as a bad thing. Perhaps it's a good precursor

to

meditation? LOL)

 

 

 

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Sarah,

 

Yeah, I am starting to see that several people here put fruit on there salads. I

am going to try that for a change. I happen to love steamed vegetables....but

that was with salt....and other seasonings.......lol

 

I've heard that some vegetables are more healthy steamed like carrots and some

other ( I can't recall atm) vegetables.

 

I am going on my 3rd month on 100% raw...I don't know why I haven't lost more

than I have. I am thinking it is due to my thryoid disease. Oh woe is

me.........lol

 

Let's keep on keepin' on............

 

 

Jeannie

 

your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one.

 

 

 

 

Sarah Formhals <mrsfrmhls

rawfood

Friday, June 22, 2007 12:02:35 PM

Re: [Raw Food] Re: Salt again, I suppose

 

 

Hi Jeannie,

 

That's been a couple months ago, so I can't remember

exactly what we ate. I know that we had fruit

smoothies for breakfast each morning (bananas, mango,

berries), lunch was fresh fruit (usually several

apples, or melon). I was not completely raw at the

time, so in the evenings we would have a large salad

and then a small serving of steamed veggies on the

side. The food did taste bland at first, without

salt. I can tell you I prefer my food raw...steamed

is not so good because all the flavor is cooked out.

I think it would have been even easier for us if I was

not steaming veggies at that time. You will feel

better once you are able to leave the salt behind.

Your taste buds will adjust and food will taste good

again. I really enjoy chopped golden delicious apples

on my salad and mango is good as well. Try adding

some fruit. Good luck :)

 

~Sarah

 

--- jeannieh h <jeannieh99 wrote:

 

> Sarah,

>

> I needed to hear that. Wow, you both lost 8 # in

> one week JUST from eliminating salt??!!! Woweeeee!

>

> Just curious. Do you mind giving me an example of

> what you ate in that week?

>

>

> I am so not going to eat salt. Hard as it may be.

>

> I still have a love affair with salt but I guess I

> have to look at it as.......the love I can't have.

> LOL

>

> Jeannie

>

> your time is the most cherished gift of all,

> tomorrow is promised to no one.

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

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Sarah,

 

You wrote: " The truth isn't that

hard to find. It's usually staring us right in the

face :) "

 

 

I am blind.........

 

Jeannie

 

your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one.

 

 

 

 

Sarah Formhals <mrsfrmhls

rawfood

Friday, June 22, 2007 12:40:16 PM

Re: [Raw Food] Re:Salt again, I suppose

 

 

> I just can't resolve the issue in my head that if

> all these things are so bad for us, why did God put

> them here for us to eat?

> What do we do with them? What is or was their

> purpose in being here?

 

 

I don't believe that they were all put here for us to

eat. Some plants are beautiful, and color our world,

some repell pests, trees provide shade and shelter,

plants protect against erosion, plants provide

habitats for wildlife....

 

I do believe that over the course of time different

individuals may have tasted a plant not intended to be

used as food, experienced some sort of stimulating

effect from that plant, and made it a part of their

daily diet for the effects it had (mentally or

physically). They probably took it back to the tribe

and shared the new " rush " with friends and family.

Others may have not liked the effects, but liked the

flavors and kept it just to compliment other foods.

Down through the ages these plants infiltrated society

as edible food.

 

I've learned over the past few years, that not

everything I've been brought up to believe is

accurate. Many " Super Foods " (garlic, etc.) are

actually poison for me. Our body is fully capable of

giving us the answers we need. The truth isn't that

hard to find. It's usually staring us right in the

face :)

 

~Sarah

 

 

 

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my an empty stomach sensed garlic might not be the savior

its put out to be

yes I have a weakness for the scientifc studies~

a wanna be MD thats me

I should just let that go too

Em

rawfood , " Elchanan " <Elchanan wrote:

>

> Good lord!!! Yes, this is one well-documented " side effect " . Pilots are

> prohibited from eating garlic before flying, I believe ... read that but

> haven't verified.

>

> No matter what articles you find, you cannot reverse your own system's

> response IF you will stop for awhile, then eat garlic. Em, let go of

your

> desire for scientific confirmation ... almost all the studies are

just plain

> wrong. They are done misusing various statistical methods, on a sick

> population, without regard for the biology underneath. Or, read all the

> studies in the world ... and remain confused.

>

> Elchanan

> _____

>

> rawfood [rawfood ] On

Behalf Of

> neal

> Friday, June 22, 2007 8:11 AM

> rawfood

> Re: [Raw Food] Re: Salt again, I suppose

>

>

> Just from memory, the only negative I can remember is that eating

garlic has

>

> an effect on brain chemistry making people slow and dull mentally.

>

> (personally I do not see that as a bad thing. Perhaps it's a good

precursor

> to

> meditation? LOL)

>

>

>

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I don't have a problem when using romaine, cucumbers,

and tomatoes with fruit and sometimes avocado.

 

~Sarah

 

--- Erica <schoolofrawk wrote:

 

> Wouldn't fruit on a salad be really really poor food

> combining?

>

>

 

 

 

 

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I'm just curious since according to Natural Hygiene, that is

definitely poor food combining.

 

rawfood , Sarah Formhals <mrsfrmhls wrote:

>

> I don't have a problem when using romaine, cucumbers,

> and tomatoes with fruit and sometimes avocado.

>

> ~Sarah

>

> --- Erica <schoolofrawk wrote:

>

> > Wouldn't fruit on a salad be really really poor food

> > combining?

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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Great question. Answer: no, it simply depends on what is used. For example,

a favorite treat for kids and adults) is to take a banana and place it on a

large lettuce leaf, then blend up one or two dates with water and use as a

thick sauce. Roll it up and you have a ... well, whatever you wish to call

it.

 

In general, melons are best eaten alone. But the other fruits ... sweet,

subacid, acid, and " veggie fruits " all go well with greens. What does NOT go

well is mixing sweet with acid fruits, greens or not. Equally, what does not

go well is mixing sweet fruits with fatty items, such as avocado, nuts,

seeds.

 

Hope that's more clear. We're planning a food combining teleconference

sometime later this year, for those interested.

 

Best,

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Erica

Friday, June 22, 2007 2:25 PM

rawfood

[Raw Food] Re: Salt again, I suppose

 

 

Wouldn't fruit on a salad be really really poor food combining?

 

 

 

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LOL Jeannie, very funny!!!

 

Clarity follows faith and trust, in my experience.

Best,

Elchanan

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rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

jeannieh h

Friday, June 22, 2007 2:54 PM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] Re:Salt again, I suppose

 

 

Sarah,

 

You wrote: " The truth isn't that

hard to find. It's usually staring us right in the

face :) "

 

 

I am blind.........

 

Jeannie

 

 

 

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Would you consider learning how to create health from the inside, out,

instead of how to treat symptoms from the outside, in? It'll be a whole new

world for you!

 

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Antie Em

Friday, June 22, 2007 3:30 PM

rawfood

[Raw Food] Re: Salt again, I suppose

 

 

my an empty stomach sensed garlic might not be the savior

its put out to be

yes I have a weakness for the scientifc studies~

a wanna be MD thats me

I should just let that go too

Em

 

 

 

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No, it's fine, and food combining is not specific to Natural Hygiene at all.

Please see my comments in a related post a little while ago this evening.

The only issues are which fruits with which, and not mixing sweet fruits

with fats. And of course, simple combinations (few ingredients) are

typically best.

 

Elchanan

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rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

Erica

Friday, June 22, 2007 4:43 PM

rawfood

[Raw Food] Re: Salt again, I suppose

 

 

I'm just curious since according to Natural Hygiene, that is definitely poor

food combining.

 

rawfood , Sarah Formhals <mrsfrmhls wrote:

 

I don't have a problem when using romaine, cucumbers, and tomatoes with

fruit and sometimes avocado.

 

~Sarah

 

--- Erica <schoolofrawk wrote:

 

Wouldn't fruit on a salad be really really poor food combining?

 

 

 

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Yes, except perhaps melons. (The water content in a ripe melon is SO high,

it wants to digest faster than anything else.)

 

The issues involve the combinations of fruits, and of sweet fruits with

fats.

 

Elchanan

 

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rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

Jen V

Friday, June 22, 2007 6:14 PM

rawfood

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I thought greens went with everything.

 

 

 

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-Elchanan,

if you knew me IRL you would think this is a very funny thing say.

I play at MD-but I do want I need to do.

My choices reflect someone who made them from the inside out

So I am already in that world.-

I *play* at alot of things

but my inner voice has always steered me true.

thanks for the considerastion though

Em

 

- In rawfood , " Elchanan " <Elchanan wrote:

>

> Would you consider learning how to create health from the inside, out,

> instead of how to treat symptoms from the outside, in? It'll be a

whole new

> world for you!

>

> Elchanan

> _____

>

> rawfood [rawfood ] On

Behalf Of

> Antie Em

> Friday, June 22, 2007 3:30 PM

> rawfood

> [Raw Food] Re: Salt again, I suppose

>

>

> my an empty stomach sensed garlic might not be the savior

> its put out to be

> yes I have a weakness for the scientifc studies~

> a wanna be MD thats me

> I should just let that go too

> Em

>

>

>

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What would be good food combining? It would be good to know.

 

Jeannie

 

your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one.

 

 

 

 

Erica <schoolofrawk

rawfood

Friday, June 22, 2007 6:42:37 PM

[Raw Food] Re: Salt again, I suppose

 

 

I'm just curious since according to Natural Hygiene, that is

definitely poor food combining.

 

rawfood , Sarah Formhals <mrsfrmhls wrote:

>

> I don't have a problem when using romaine, cucumbers,

> and tomatoes with fruit and sometimes avocado.

>

> ~Sarah

>

> --- Erica <schoolofrawk wrote:

>

> > Wouldn't fruit on a salad be really really poor food

> > combining?

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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Games.

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Em,

 

I am excited about your choice to become an MD : ) If I could stand that

much more school, I'd do it, too. I actually think it's a good place for raw

foodists to venture into, so long as they keep themselves and don't get

eaten by the big medicine machine, because it's definitely a place that

could use some shaking up. And insiders doing the shaking could be very

effective. : ) All the best of luck to you,

 

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Elchanan,

 

Thanks!

 

I consider myself to be faithful,and trustful. What I need to add to the mix

is the knowledge and understanding required and (of course) the patience

required.

 

Jeannie

 

your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one.

 

 

 

 

Elchanan <Elchanan

rawfood

Saturday, June 23, 2007 1:54:50 AM

RE: [Raw Food] Re:Salt again, I suppose

 

 

LOL Jeannie, very funny!!!

 

Clarity follows faith and trust, in my experience.

Best,

Elchanan

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rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

jeannieh h

Friday, June 22, 2007 2:54 PM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] Re:Salt again, I suppose

 

 

Sarah,

 

You wrote: " The truth isn't that

hard to find. It's usually staring us right in the

face :) "

 

 

I am blind.........

 

Jeannie

 

 

 

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Hi School of Rawk,

 

I stopped my thyroid medicine and cleaned up my diet. I feel better

than I have my whole life. The more I cut salt out of my diet, the

better I feel (and look), too. This has been my experience.

 

Rock Chalk Jayhawk,

Janet

 

rawfood , School Of Rawk <schoolofrawk wrote:

 

If you are hypothyroid and on thyroid meds, PLEASE don't go off your

meds. I know plenty of raw foodists who have done that prematurely,

it only made things tons worse. And boy did they feel better getting

on salt again for that thyroid, after giving it up " for health " .

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