Guest guest Report post Posted June 22, 2007 LOL :-)rawfood , jeannieh h <jeannieh99 wrote: > > Em, > > That is " raw " attraction. LOL > > I didn't do a drawing, however, I have two framed pictures of veggies and in one is garlic.........LOL > > We are garlic buddies...........we have to detox from garlic together!!! > > > Jeannie > > your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one. > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 22, 2007 On Friday 22 June 2007 13:11, Antie Em wrote: > Anyway-I would like to see more real research on this myself so I am > very glad you posted. Hi Antie Em (and Rudy) I'm going to have to route through my rather large pile of Nexus magazines and try to find the article published regarding Garlic. Nexus is an excellent source of independent research into health, publishing articles that folks like the FDA and CDC try to suppress. Just from memory, the only negative I can remember is that eating garlic has an effect on brain chemistry making people slow and dull mentally. (personally I do not see that as a bad thing. Perhaps it's a good precursor to meditation? LOL) neal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 22, 2007 If you are hypothyroid and on thyroid meds, PLEASE don't go off your meds. I know plenty of raw foodists who have done that prematurely, it only made things tons worse. And boy did they feel better getting on salt again for that thyroid, after giving it up " for health " . Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Answers - Check it out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 22, 2007 Hi Jeannie, That's been a couple months ago, so I can't remember exactly what we ate. I know that we had fruit smoothies for breakfast each morning (bananas, mango, berries), lunch was fresh fruit (usually several apples, or melon). I was not completely raw at the time, so in the evenings we would have a large salad and then a small serving of steamed veggies on the side. The food did taste bland at first, without salt. I can tell you I prefer my food raw...steamed is not so good because all the flavor is cooked out. I think it would have been even easier for us if I was not steaming veggies at that time. You will feel better once you are able to leave the salt behind. Your taste buds will adjust and food will taste good again. I really enjoy chopped golden delicious apples on my salad and mango is good as well. Try adding some fruit. Good luck ~Sarah --- jeannieh h <jeannieh99 wrote: > Sarah, > > I needed to hear that. Wow, you both lost 8 # in > one week JUST from eliminating salt??!!! Woweeeee! > > Just curious. Do you mind giving me an example of > what you ate in that week? > > > I am so not going to eat salt. Hard as it may be. > > I still have a love affair with salt but I guess I > have to look at it as.......the love I can't have. > LOL > > Jeannie > > your time is the most cherished gift of all, > tomorrow is promised to no one. > > > ______________________________\ ____ Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with FareChase. http://farechase./ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 22, 2007 > I just can't resolve the issue in my head that if > all these things are so bad for us, why did God put > them here for us to eat? > What do we do with them? What is or was their > purpose in being here? I don't believe that they were all put here for us to eat. Some plants are beautiful, and color our world, some repell pests, trees provide shade and shelter, plants protect against erosion, plants provide habitats for wildlife.... I do believe that over the course of time different individuals may have tasted a plant not intended to be used as food, experienced some sort of stimulating effect from that plant, and made it a part of their daily diet for the effects it had (mentally or physically). They probably took it back to the tribe and shared the new " rush " with friends and family. Others may have not liked the effects, but liked the flavors and kept it just to compliment other foods. Down through the ages these plants infiltrated society as edible food. I've learned over the past few years, that not everything I've been brought up to believe is accurate. Many " Super Foods " (garlic, etc.) are actually poison for me. Our body is fully capable of giving us the answers we need. The truth isn't that hard to find. It's usually staring us right in the face ~Sarah ______________________________\ ____ Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Answers - Check it out. http://answers./dir/?link=list & sid=396545433 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 22, 2007 Hi, I don't know if it's been offered yet, and I haven't even read any of these study(ies) published by Nexus, but we do have to remember that even experiments with human subjects can be misleading--most human subjects are chronically unhealthy and do not eat raw foods. So even the results from these studies may mean little to people in a group such as this. Jen _______________ PC Magazine’s 2007 editors’ choice for best Web mail—award-winning Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us & ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM\ _mini_pcmag_0507 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 22, 2007 you are right my friend, I did take myself off of my synthroid and boy did I suffer. I don't like having to take meds and was looking forward to not needing to take them just by changing my diet to 100% raw. I do want to be able to do this at some point, if that will be possible. I am told it is possible and I am told that many people have done this with no problems. Alas I have had to begin taking my synthroid again and at a smaller dose since it has to be titrated.I had my labwork done and my results were so far off the charts the doctor got angry and said it is no wonder I was having so many of the symptoms. I am going to try to learn more about seaweed, dulse and other sea vegetables. Jeannie your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one. School Of Rawk <schoolofrawk rawfood Friday, June 22, 2007 10:17:48 AM [Raw Food] Re: Salt again, I suppose If you are hypothyroid and on thyroid meds, PLEASE don't go off your meds. I know plenty of raw foodists who have done that prematurely, it only made things tons worse. And boy did they feel better getting on salt again for that thyroid, after giving it up " for health " . Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Answers - Check it out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 22, 2007 Good lord!!! Yes, this is one well-documented " side effect " . Pilots are prohibited from eating garlic before flying, I believe ... read that but haven't verified. No matter what articles you find, you cannot reverse your own system's response IF you will stop for awhile, then eat garlic. Em, let go of your desire for scientific confirmation ... almost all the studies are just plain wrong. They are done misusing various statistical methods, on a sick population, without regard for the biology underneath. Or, read all the studies in the world ... and remain confused. Elchanan _____ rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of neal Friday, June 22, 2007 8:11 AM rawfood Re: [Raw Food] Re: Salt again, I suppose Just from memory, the only negative I can remember is that eating garlic has an effect on brain chemistry making people slow and dull mentally. (personally I do not see that as a bad thing. Perhaps it's a good precursor to meditation? LOL) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 22, 2007 Sarah, Yeah, I am starting to see that several people here put fruit on there salads. I am going to try that for a change. I happen to love steamed vegetables....but that was with salt....and other seasonings.......lol I've heard that some vegetables are more healthy steamed like carrots and some other ( I can't recall atm) vegetables. I am going on my 3rd month on 100% raw...I don't know why I haven't lost more than I have. I am thinking it is due to my thryoid disease. Oh woe is me.........lol Let's keep on keepin' on............ Jeannie your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one. Sarah Formhals <mrsfrmhls rawfood Friday, June 22, 2007 12:02:35 PM Re: [Raw Food] Re: Salt again, I suppose Hi Jeannie, That's been a couple months ago, so I can't remember exactly what we ate. I know that we had fruit smoothies for breakfast each morning (bananas, mango, berries), lunch was fresh fruit (usually several apples, or melon). I was not completely raw at the time, so in the evenings we would have a large salad and then a small serving of steamed veggies on the side. The food did taste bland at first, without salt. I can tell you I prefer my food raw...steamed is not so good because all the flavor is cooked out. I think it would have been even easier for us if I was not steaming veggies at that time. You will feel better once you are able to leave the salt behind. Your taste buds will adjust and food will taste good again. I really enjoy chopped golden delicious apples on my salad and mango is good as well. Try adding some fruit. Good luck ~Sarah --- jeannieh h <jeannieh99 wrote: > Sarah, > > I needed to hear that. Wow, you both lost 8 # in > one week JUST from eliminating salt??!!! Woweeeee! > > Just curious. Do you mind giving me an example of > what you ate in that week? > > > I am so not going to eat salt. Hard as it may be. > > I still have a love affair with salt but I guess I > have to look at it as.......the love I can't have. > LOL > > Jeannie > > your time is the most cherished gift of all, > tomorrow is promised to no one. > > > ______________________________\ ____ Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with FareChase. http://farechase./ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 22, 2007 Wouldn't fruit on a salad be really really poor food combining? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 22, 2007 Sarah, You wrote: " The truth isn't that hard to find. It's usually staring us right in the face " I am blind......... Jeannie your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one. Sarah Formhals <mrsfrmhls rawfood Friday, June 22, 2007 12:40:16 PM Re: [Raw Food] Re:Salt again, I suppose > I just can't resolve the issue in my head that if > all these things are so bad for us, why did God put > them here for us to eat? > What do we do with them? What is or was their > purpose in being here? I don't believe that they were all put here for us to eat. Some plants are beautiful, and color our world, some repell pests, trees provide shade and shelter, plants protect against erosion, plants provide habitats for wildlife.... I do believe that over the course of time different individuals may have tasted a plant not intended to be used as food, experienced some sort of stimulating effect from that plant, and made it a part of their daily diet for the effects it had (mentally or physically). They probably took it back to the tribe and shared the new " rush " with friends and family. Others may have not liked the effects, but liked the flavors and kept it just to compliment other foods. Down through the ages these plants infiltrated society as edible food. I've learned over the past few years, that not everything I've been brought up to believe is accurate. Many " Super Foods " (garlic, etc.) are actually poison for me. Our body is fully capable of giving us the answers we need. The truth isn't that hard to find. It's usually staring us right in the face ~Sarah ______________________________\ ____ Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Answers - Check it out. http://answers./dir/?link=list & sid=396545433 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 22, 2007 my an empty stomach sensed garlic might not be the savior its put out to be yes I have a weakness for the scientifc studies~ a wanna be MD thats me I should just let that go too Em rawfood , " Elchanan " <Elchanan wrote: > > Good lord!!! Yes, this is one well-documented " side effect " . Pilots are > prohibited from eating garlic before flying, I believe ... read that but > haven't verified. > > No matter what articles you find, you cannot reverse your own system's > response IF you will stop for awhile, then eat garlic. Em, let go of your > desire for scientific confirmation ... almost all the studies are just plain > wrong. They are done misusing various statistical methods, on a sick > population, without regard for the biology underneath. Or, read all the > studies in the world ... and remain confused. > > Elchanan > _____ > > rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of > neal > Friday, June 22, 2007 8:11 AM > rawfood > Re: [Raw Food] Re: Salt again, I suppose > > > Just from memory, the only negative I can remember is that eating garlic has > > an effect on brain chemistry making people slow and dull mentally. > > (personally I do not see that as a bad thing. Perhaps it's a good precursor > to > meditation? LOL) > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 23, 2007 I don't have a problem when using romaine, cucumbers, and tomatoes with fruit and sometimes avocado. ~Sarah --- Erica <schoolofrawk wrote: > Wouldn't fruit on a salad be really really poor food > combining? > > ______________________________\ ____ Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Games. http://videogames./platform?platform=120121 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 23, 2007 I'm just curious since according to Natural Hygiene, that is definitely poor food combining. rawfood , Sarah Formhals <mrsfrmhls wrote: > > I don't have a problem when using romaine, cucumbers, > and tomatoes with fruit and sometimes avocado. > > ~Sarah > > --- Erica <schoolofrawk wrote: > > > Wouldn't fruit on a salad be really really poor food > > combining? > > > > > > > > > ___________________ _______________ > Be a PS3 game guru. > Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Games. > http://videogames./platform?platform=120121 > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 23, 2007 I thought greens went with everything. _______________ Get a preview of Live Earth, the hottest event this summer - only on MSN http://liveearth.msn.com?source=msntaglineliveearthhm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 23, 2007 Great question. Answer: no, it simply depends on what is used. For example, a favorite treat for kids and adults) is to take a banana and place it on a large lettuce leaf, then blend up one or two dates with water and use as a thick sauce. Roll it up and you have a ... well, whatever you wish to call it. In general, melons are best eaten alone. But the other fruits ... sweet, subacid, acid, and " veggie fruits " all go well with greens. What does NOT go well is mixing sweet with acid fruits, greens or not. Equally, what does not go well is mixing sweet fruits with fatty items, such as avocado, nuts, seeds. Hope that's more clear. We're planning a food combining teleconference sometime later this year, for those interested. Best, Elchanan _____ rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of Erica Friday, June 22, 2007 2:25 PM rawfood [Raw Food] Re: Salt again, I suppose Wouldn't fruit on a salad be really really poor food combining? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 23, 2007 LOL Jeannie, very funny!!! Clarity follows faith and trust, in my experience. Best, Elchanan _____ rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of jeannieh h Friday, June 22, 2007 2:54 PM rawfood Re: [Raw Food] Re:Salt again, I suppose Sarah, You wrote: " The truth isn't that hard to find. It's usually staring us right in the face " I am blind......... Jeannie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 23, 2007 Would you consider learning how to create health from the inside, out, instead of how to treat symptoms from the outside, in? It'll be a whole new world for you! Elchanan _____ rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of Antie Em Friday, June 22, 2007 3:30 PM rawfood [Raw Food] Re: Salt again, I suppose my an empty stomach sensed garlic might not be the savior its put out to be yes I have a weakness for the scientifc studies~ a wanna be MD thats me I should just let that go too Em Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 23, 2007 No, it's fine, and food combining is not specific to Natural Hygiene at all. Please see my comments in a related post a little while ago this evening. The only issues are which fruits with which, and not mixing sweet fruits with fats. And of course, simple combinations (few ingredients) are typically best. Elchanan _____ rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of Erica Friday, June 22, 2007 4:43 PM rawfood [Raw Food] Re: Salt again, I suppose I'm just curious since according to Natural Hygiene, that is definitely poor food combining. rawfood , Sarah Formhals <mrsfrmhls wrote: I don't have a problem when using romaine, cucumbers, and tomatoes with fruit and sometimes avocado. ~Sarah --- Erica <schoolofrawk wrote: Wouldn't fruit on a salad be really really poor food combining? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 23, 2007 Yes, except perhaps melons. (The water content in a ripe melon is SO high, it wants to digest faster than anything else.) The issues involve the combinations of fruits, and of sweet fruits with fats. Elchanan _____ rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of Jen V Friday, June 22, 2007 6:14 PM rawfood [Raw Food] Re: Salt again, I suppose I thought greens went with everything. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 23, 2007 -Elchanan, if you knew me IRL you would think this is a very funny thing say. I play at MD-but I do want I need to do. My choices reflect someone who made them from the inside out So I am already in that world.- I *play* at alot of things but my inner voice has always steered me true. thanks for the considerastion though Em - In rawfood , " Elchanan " <Elchanan wrote: > > Would you consider learning how to create health from the inside, out, > instead of how to treat symptoms from the outside, in? It'll be a whole new > world for you! > > Elchanan > _____ > > rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of > Antie Em > Friday, June 22, 2007 3:30 PM > rawfood > [Raw Food] Re: Salt again, I suppose > > > my an empty stomach sensed garlic might not be the savior > its put out to be > yes I have a weakness for the scientifc studies~ > a wanna be MD thats me > I should just let that go too > Em > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 23, 2007 What would be good food combining? It would be good to know. Jeannie your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one. Erica <schoolofrawk rawfood Friday, June 22, 2007 6:42:37 PM [Raw Food] Re: Salt again, I suppose I'm just curious since according to Natural Hygiene, that is definitely poor food combining. rawfood , Sarah Formhals <mrsfrmhls wrote: > > I don't have a problem when using romaine, cucumbers, > and tomatoes with fruit and sometimes avocado. > > ~Sarah > > --- Erica <schoolofrawk wrote: > > > Wouldn't fruit on a salad be really really poor food > > combining? > > > > > > > > > ___________________ _______________ > Be a PS3 game guru. > Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Games. > http://videogames./platform?platform=120121 > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 23, 2007 Em, I am excited about your choice to become an MD : ) If I could stand that much more school, I'd do it, too. I actually think it's a good place for raw foodists to venture into, so long as they keep themselves and don't get eaten by the big medicine machine, because it's definitely a place that could use some shaking up. And insiders doing the shaking could be very effective. : ) All the best of luck to you, Jen _______________ Picture this – share your photos and you could win big! http://www.GETREALPhotoContest.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM & loc=us Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 23, 2007 Elchanan, Thanks! I consider myself to be faithful,and trustful. What I need to add to the mix is the knowledge and understanding required and (of course) the patience required. Jeannie your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one. Elchanan <Elchanan rawfood Saturday, June 23, 2007 1:54:50 AM RE: [Raw Food] Re:Salt again, I suppose LOL Jeannie, very funny!!! Clarity follows faith and trust, in my experience. Best, Elchanan _____ rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of jeannieh h Friday, June 22, 2007 2:54 PM rawfood Re: [Raw Food] Re:Salt again, I suppose Sarah, You wrote: " The truth isn't that hard to find. It's usually staring us right in the face " I am blind......... Jeannie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 25, 2007 Hi School of Rawk, I stopped my thyroid medicine and cleaned up my diet. I feel better than I have my whole life. The more I cut salt out of my diet, the better I feel (and look), too. This has been my experience. Rock Chalk Jayhawk, Janet rawfood , School Of Rawk <schoolofrawk wrote: If you are hypothyroid and on thyroid meds, PLEASE don't go off your meds. I know plenty of raw foodists who have done that prematurely, it only made things tons worse. And boy did they feel better getting on salt again for that thyroid, after giving it up " for health " . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites