Salt again, I suppose

[Guest guest]

For the life of me, I cannot understand how we get from " our bodies need

water " to eating salt.

 

The physics underlying the relationship between salt and water, and

therefore between salt and blood, is quite clear ... salt (sodium chloride)

damages us in many, many ways, from the first grain we consume. That there

may be some redeeming elements in a particular source or " type " of salt does

not alter this, not now and not ever.

 

Those who try going without salt typically never look back. Those who have

never tried it live in utter ignorance on the matter. And those who attempt

to understand and teach about health, nutrition, etc. with no grounding at

all in the underlying sciences ... mathematics, physics, chemistry ... have

no mechanism whatsoever for distinguishing when a particular perspective or

conclusion simply cannot be so. The entire discussion about salt falls into

this category--most of those who enter the discussion don't even know what

the term " salt " even means. (Of course, I realize that having said that,

anyone can now jump on the Internet, look something up, and publish it.)

 

No earthly idea what effect you intend mentioning Dr. Graham.

 

Best,

Elchanan

_____

 

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

School Of Rawk

Thursday, June 21, 2007 10:42 AM

rawfood

[Raw Food] Re:FW: [PathOfHealth] A matter of taste [Restoring sense

of taste and s

 

 

Celtic Sea Salt is great for you. I know " Dr. D " doesn't agree, but there is

plenty more out there. It is great for thyroid health, too. Check out YOUR

BODIES MANY CRIES FOR WATER. It is very healing.

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Is their salt in raw veggies and fruits? Do we not need some salt in

the diet?

 

Belinda

 

rawfood , " Elchanan " <Elchanan wrote:

>

> For the life of me, I cannot understand how we get from " our bodies

need

> water " to eating salt.

>

> The physics underlying the relationship between salt and water, and

> therefore between salt and blood, is quite clear ... salt (sodium

chloride)

> damages us in many, many ways, from the first grain we consume.

That there

> may be some redeeming elements in a particular source or " type " of

salt does

> not alter this, not now and not ever.

>

> Those who try going without salt typically never look back. Those

who have

> never tried it live in utter ignorance on the matter. And those who

attempt

> to understand and teach about health, nutrition, etc. with no

grounding at

> all in the underlying sciences ... mathematics, physics,

chemistry ... have

> no mechanism whatsoever for distinguishing when a particular

perspective or

> conclusion simply cannot be so. The entire discussion about salt

falls into

> this category--most of those who enter the discussion don't even

know what

> the term " salt " even means. (Of course, I realize that having said

that,

> anyone can now jump on the Internet, look something up, and publish

it.)

>

> No earthly idea what effect you intend mentioning Dr. Graham.

>

> Best,

> Elchanan

> _____

>

> rawfood [rawfood ] On

Behalf Of

> School Of Rawk

> Thursday, June 21, 2007 10:42 AM

> rawfood

> [Raw Food] Re:FW: [PathOfHealth] A matter of taste

[Restoring sense

> of taste and s

>

>

> Celtic Sea Salt is great for you. I know " Dr. D " doesn't agree, but

there is

> plenty more out there. It is great for thyroid health, too. Check

out YOUR

> BODIES MANY CRIES FOR WATER. It is very healing.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, there is at least some sodium (as opposed to sodium chloride) in every

plant ... the electrolyte properties are essential for maintaining osmotic

balance and for other purposes.

 

The key is to stop losing so much salt. We eliminate metabolic waste

primarily through the urine and the lungs ... that is, with loss of water.

Whenever we have lots to eliminate, we give up more water.

 

Also, we cannot safely eliminate salt (sodium chloride) in any large

quantities. So any excess is stored in a salty brine inside us ... this is

the basis of what is called " water weight " .

 

Best,

Elchanan

_____

 

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

Belinda

Thursday, June 21, 2007 1:45 PM

rawfood

[Raw Food] Re: Salt again, I suppose

 

 

Is their salt in raw veggies and fruits? Do we not need some salt in the

diet?

 

Belinda

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

It almost sounds like we are pickled.)

 

Thanks for the explanation.

 

Belinda

 

 

> Also, we cannot safely eliminate salt (sodium chloride) in any large

> quantities. So any excess is stored in a salty brine inside us ...

this is

> the basis of what is called " water weight " .

>

> Best,

> Elchanan

> _____

>

> rawfood [rawfood ] On

Behalf Of

> Belinda

> Thursday, June 21, 2007 1:45 PM

> rawfood

> [Raw Food] Re: Salt again, I suppose

>

>

> Is their salt in raw veggies and fruits? Do we not need some salt

in the

> diet?

>

> Belinda

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

My friend gave up salt (she's all raw, vegan, etc) for health for years. Her raw

vegan natural doctor finally found out and urged her to get on it again, she is

doing tons better ever since. I only mentioned Dr Graham because he is one of

the few who feels salt and even stuff like garlic are totally unhealthy and

damaging.

 

 

 

 

 

Building a website is a piece of cake.

Small Business gives you all the tools to get online.

 

 

[Guest guest]

You are closer to truth than you may realize. During the Vietnam war,

whenever bodies of American and Vietnamese soldiers were gathered in one

place, it was noted that the bodies of the Vietnamese soldiers decayed

considerably more rapidly than did the bodies of the Americans. And that was

during the 60s/early 70s. We've " come a long way " since then.

 

Elchanan

_____

 

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

Belinda

Thursday, June 21, 2007 2:38 PM

rawfood

[Raw Food] Re: Salt again, I suppose

 

 

It almost sounds like we are pickled.)

 

Thanks for the explanation.

 

Belinda

 

> Also, we cannot safely eliminate salt (sodium chloride) in any large

> quantities. So any excess is stored in a salty brine inside us ...

this is

> the basis of what is called " water weight " .

>

> Best,

> Elchanan

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Well, in the absence of information, no response is possible, which I

imagine you realize. Such is the nature of anecdotal " evidence " . But I can

assure you that with more information we'd find that the problem was not

salt, nor the solution. She is doing better in spite of, not because of, the

salt.

 

And yes, garlic harms the system, all one need do is eat none for a month or

two, then have some as the first " meal " of the day. There can be NO doubt

there, either.

 

If your friend had actually just tried the salt straight, she'd have

experienced right away what I mean. She did not do the experiment I

described. This is what I have meant in the past when I've described a

behavior pattern where someone does a portion of a program, learns is to a

degree but not completely, then complains that the results aren't there. Of

course the results aren't there, the program isn't there, either.

 

Best,

Elchanan

_____

 

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

School Of Rawk

Thursday, June 21, 2007 2:41 PM

rawfood

[Raw Food] Re:Salt again, I suppose

 

 

My friend gave up salt (she's all raw, vegan, etc) for health for years. Her

raw vegan natural doctor finally found out and urged her to get on it again,

she is doing tons better ever since. I only mentioned Dr Graham because he

is one of the few who feels salt and even stuff like garlic are totally

unhealthy and damaging.

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

> salt, nor the solution. She is doing better in spite of, not because

of, the

> salt.

>

> And yes, garlic harms the system, all one need do is eat none for a

month or

> two, then have some as the first " meal " of the day. There can be NO

doubt

> there, either.

 

I had read somewhere about onions7 garlic being overstimulating.

I love both and had no idea that garlic would be harmful

I have always used a great deal of garlic in cooking.

Thats very interesting info.

 

Em

[Guest guest]

Elchanan,

 

Darn it! For a moment there, I thought I was going to get the green light on

salt.

 

So that brings a question. I have hypothyroid disease....wouldn't salt be

beneficial? (for the iodine).

 

 

Unsalty,

 

Jeannie

 

 

 

 

 

your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one.

 

 

 

 

Elchanan <Elchanan

rawfood

Thursday, June 21, 2007 3:05:02 PM

[Raw Food] Salt again, I suppose

 

 

For the life of me, I cannot understand how we get from " our bodies need

water " to eating salt.

 

The physics underlying the relationship between salt and water, and

therefore between salt and blood, is quite clear ... salt (sodium chloride)

damages us in many, many ways, from the first grain we consume. That there

may be some redeeming elements in a particular source or " type " of salt does

not alter this, not now and not ever.

 

Those who try going without salt typically never look back. Those who have

never tried it live in utter ignorance on the matter. And those who attempt

to understand and teach about health, nutrition, etc. with no grounding at

all in the underlying sciences ... mathematics, physics, chemistry ... have

no mechanism whatsoever for distinguishing when a particular perspective or

conclusion simply cannot be so. The entire discussion about salt falls into

this category--most of those who enter the discussion don't even know what

the term " salt " even means. (Of course, I realize that having said that,

anyone can now jump on the Internet, look something up, and publish it.)

 

No earthly idea what effect you intend mentioning Dr. Graham.

 

Best,

Elchanan

_____

 

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

School Of Rawk

Thursday, June 21, 2007 10:42 AM

rawfood

[Raw Food] Re:FW: [PathOfHealth] A matter of taste [Restoring sense

of taste and s

 

 

Celtic Sea Salt is great for you. I know " Dr. D " doesn't agree, but there is

plenty more out there. It is great for thyroid health, too. Check out YOUR

BODIES MANY CRIES FOR WATER. It is very healing.

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

So is THAT my problem???? water weight?? Boy do I have alot of water in me.

 

How you feel about diuretics?

 

 

Jeannie

your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one.

 

 

 

 

Elchanan <Elchanan

rawfood

Thursday, June 21, 2007 4:33:21 PM

RE: [Raw Food] Re: Salt again, I suppose

 

 

Yes, there is at least some sodium (as opposed to sodium chloride) in every

plant ... the electrolyte properties are essential for maintaining osmotic

balance and for other purposes.

 

The key is to stop losing so much salt. We eliminate metabolic waste

primarily through the urine and the lungs ... that is, with loss of water.

Whenever we have lots to eliminate, we give up more water.

 

Also, we cannot safely eliminate salt (sodium chloride) in any large

quantities. So any excess is stored in a salty brine inside us ... this is

the basis of what is called " water weight " .

 

Best,

Elchanan

_____

 

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

Belinda

Thursday, June 21, 2007 1:45 PM

rawfood

[Raw Food] Re: Salt again, I suppose

 

 

Is their salt in raw veggies and fruits? Do we not need some salt in the

diet?

 

Belinda

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

What was her problem that she is doing tons better from?

 

Just curious. (trying to find a " loop hole " for the salt..lol)

 

Jeannie

 

your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one.

 

 

 

 

School Of Rawk <schoolofrawk

rawfood

Thursday, June 21, 2007 4:41:20 PM

[Raw Food] Re:Salt again, I suppose

 

 

My friend gave up salt (she's all raw, vegan, etc) for health for years. Her raw

vegan natural doctor finally found out and urged her to get on it again, she is

doing tons better ever since. I only mentioned Dr Graham because he is one of

the few who feels salt and even stuff like garlic are totally unhealthy and

damaging.

 

 

 

 

 

Building a website is a piece of cake.

Small Business gives you all the tools to get online.

 

 

[Guest guest]

Elchanan,

 

You said....

 

" And yes, garlic harms the system, all one need do is eat none for a month or

two, then have some as the first " meal " of the day. There can be NO doubt

there, either. "

 

aww man!! Now you are taking my garlic away from me???? say it isn't so?

 

What about the fact that in so many articles it states that garlic is good for

the blood.

 

Onions and garlic are said to be great for the blood.

 

I put onions and sometimes garlic in my SALT-LESS salads...

 

What are you doing to me????????????????????????????? (pulling hair out)

 

LOL,

 

Jeannie

 

 

your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one.

 

 

 

 

Elchanan <Elchanan

rawfood

Thursday, June 21, 2007 6:58:11 PM

RE: [Raw Food] Re:Salt again, I suppose

 

 

Well, in the absence of information, no response is possible, which I

imagine you realize. Such is the nature of anecdotal " evidence " . But I can

assure you that with more information we'd find that the problem was not

salt, nor the solution. She is doing better in spite of, not because of, the

salt.

 

And yes, garlic harms the system, all one need do is eat none for a month or

two, then have some as the first " meal " of the day. There can be NO doubt

there, either.

 

If your friend had actually just tried the salt straight, she'd have

experienced right away what I mean. She did not do the experiment I

described. This is what I have meant in the past when I've described a

behavior pattern where someone does a portion of a program, learns is to a

degree but not completely, then complains that the results aren't there. Of

course the results aren't there, the program isn't there, either.

 

Best,

Elchanan

_____

 

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

School Of Rawk

Thursday, June 21, 2007 2:41 PM

rawfood

[Raw Food] Re:Salt again, I suppose

 

 

My friend gave up salt (she's all raw, vegan, etc) for health for years. Her

raw vegan natural doctor finally found out and urged her to get on it again,

she is doing tons better ever since. I only mentioned Dr Graham because he

is one of the few who feels salt and even stuff like garlic are totally

unhealthy and damaging.

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Jeannie,

 

If you are eating organically grown or home grown greens, then you should be

receiving the iodine you need. But there can be more to it WRT thyroid

conditions ... depends on the history involved.

Elchanan

_____

 

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

jeannieh h

Thursday, June 21, 2007 8:18 PM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] Salt again, I suppose

 

 

Elchanan,

 

Darn it! For a moment there, I thought I was going to get the green light on

salt.

 

So that brings a question. I have hypothyroid disease....wouldn't salt be

beneficial? (for the iodine).

 

Unsalty,

 

Jeannie

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Em,

 

This just blows me away.....Think of all the Italian food, Greek food, Middle

Eastern food....you name it....garlic and onions are the " glue " lol that make

the dishes...........

 

What a shame....

 

So if we don't eat them...should they just go to waste??

 

 

Jeannie

 

your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one.

 

 

 

 

Antie Em <emusedmary

rawfood

Thursday, June 21, 2007 7:12:54 PM

[Raw Food] Re:Salt again, I suppose

 

 

> salt, nor the solution. She is doing better in spite of, not because

of, the

> salt.

>

> And yes, garlic harms the system, all one need do is eat none for a

month or

> two, then have some as the first " meal " of the day. There can be NO

doubt

> there, either.

 

I had read somewhere about onions7 garlic being overstimulating.

I love both and had no idea that garlic would be harmful

I have always used a great deal of garlic in cooking.

Thats very interesting info.

 

Em

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Yes, my favorite cooked cuisines were Greek, Vietnamese, Italian, French ...

al of which love garlic, onions, alcohol, spices, herbs, the works. Last

time I ate some tomato sauce, I experienced a severe " acid reflux " response.

I imagine that response was always there, waiting to happen ... I just

needed the vitality FOR it to happen.

 

E

 

_____

 

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

jeannieh h

Thursday, June 21, 2007 10:03 PM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] Re:Salt again, I suppose

 

 

Em,

 

This just blows me away.....Think of all the Italian food, Greek food,

Middle Eastern food....you name it....garlic and onions are the " glue " lol

that make the dishes...........

 

What a shame....

 

So if we don't eat them...should they just go to waste??

 

Jeannie

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Elchanan,

 

Well, I have had hypothyroid disease for about 10 years now. They have never

been able to " regulate " it. I have been put on all mg's of synthroid over those

10 years. I am not that good at taking it everyday. You have to have an empty

stomach to take it. I tried to take myself off of it not long ago...I tried to

consume dulse and seaweed...but I began to feel so sick, it was awful. I had

blood work and my results were awful. I had to begin taking synthroid again. I

am now just starting to feel ok, it's been almost 2 wks.

 

 

Do you recommend I stop taking it again? I would like to not have to take it.

I also take bp meds and cholesteral meds....and diabetic meds...

 

 

I'm all for not taking any meds...since I often forget to take them

anyway....I've been pretty good at taking the synthroid now for about 2 wks.

 

 

Jeannie

 

your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one.

 

 

 

 

Elchanan <Elchanan

rawfood

Thursday, June 21, 2007 11:53:29 PM

RE: [Raw Food] Salt again, I suppose

 

 

Hi Jeannie,

 

If you are eating organically grown or home grown greens, then you should be

receiving the iodine you need. But there can be more to it WRT thyroid

conditions ... depends on the history involved.

Elchanan

_____

 

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

jeannieh h

Thursday, June 21, 2007 8:18 PM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] Salt again, I suppose

 

 

Elchanan,

 

Darn it! For a moment there, I thought I was going to get the green light on

salt.

 

So that brings a question. I have hypothyroid disease....wouldn't salt be

beneficial? (for the iodine).

 

Unsalty,

 

Jeannie

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

rawfood , jeannieh h <jeannieh99 wrote:

>

> So is THAT my problem???? water weight?? Boy do I have alot of

water in me.

>

> How you feel about diuretics?

 

LOL

me too!

Em

[Guest guest]

Jeannie,

i have a charcoal drawing I did of them in my kitchen

Sketched the lovely skin of the onion-the papery wrap of the garlic

 

shows you how attached I am!

Emrawfood , jeannieh h <jeannieh99 wrote:

>

> Em,

>

> This just blows me away.....Think of all the Italian food, Greek

food, Middle Eastern food....you name it....garlic and onions are the

" glue " lol that make the dishes...........

>

> What a shame....

>

> So if we don't eat them...should they just go to waste??

>

>

> Jeannie

>

> your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to

no one.

>

>

>

>

> Antie Em <emusedmary

> rawfood

> Thursday, June 21, 2007 7:12:54 PM

> [Raw Food] Re:Salt again, I suppose

>

>

> > salt, nor the solution. She is doing better in spite of, not because

> of, the

> > salt.

> >

> > And yes, garlic harms the system, all one need do is eat none for a

> month or

> > two, then have some as the first " meal " of the day. There can be NO

> doubt

> > there, either.

>

> I had read somewhere about onions7 garlic being overstimulating.

> I love both and had no idea that garlic would be harmful

> I have always used a great deal of garlic in cooking.

> Thats very interesting info.

>

> Em

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Maybe...When hubby and I eliminated salt from our

diet, we lost 8lbs in less than a week. The weight

never came back, but neither did the salt shaker

 

~Sarah

 

--- jeannieh h <jeannieh99 wrote:

 

> So is THAT my problem???? water weight?? Boy do I

> have alot of water in me.

>

 

 

 

 

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Now I am really curious. Can someone tell me where it

is documented that garlic harms the system? Where

would I go to research this question? How did some of

you come to this conclusion? Rudy

 

 

 

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-H Rudy,

well I have not come to that conclusion but the thought would never

have occured to me that garlic was in any way harmful

So I figured I would conduct one of those one rat studies

However I have batch of chickpeas I cooked up for hummus(I am not 100%

raw)

and I can't imagine making that without the garlic & spices

well actually I can but not enjoying it.

However there are other guinea pigs at home too that love their

hummus(4 kids+1 husband)

so I may have to make 2 versions and then have garlic envy.

I googled and oggled last night and found some articles

I didn't find much there

http://www.reikiempowermentseminars.com.au/assets/taoist.html

http://tinyurl.com/39yjes

and started tothink of garlic more as achemical which started me

thinking of homeopathic..and then allopathic medicine

I started viewing garlic more as a killing agent and so found this

interesting

http://www.pslgroup.com/dg/3db82.htm

I have known about the antimicrobial aspects of allicin for years.

The hedonistic part of me likes to use garlic and wasabi powder and

and and all those other lovely stimulating additives

....butthe part that likes to focus on health would like to experiment

with agarlic free life for a bit.

 

Of course we know that excess garlic and blood thinners are not a good

combo but I hope nobody here is taking bloodthinners

 

Anyway-I would like to see more real research on this myself so I am

very glad you posted.

Em-- In rawfood , Raoul Valle <rudy930 wrote:

>

> Now I am really curious. Can someone tell me where it

> is documented that garlic harms the system? Where

> would I go to research this question? How did some of

> you come to this conclusion? Rudy

>

>

>

>

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>

[Guest guest]

Sarah,

 

I needed to hear that. Wow, you both lost 8 # in one week JUST from

eliminating salt??!!! Woweeeee!

Just curious. Do you mind giving me an example of what you ate in that week?

 

 

I am so not going to eat salt. Hard as it may be.

 

I still have a love affair with salt but I guess I have to look at it

as.......the love I can't have. LOL

 

Jeannie

 

your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one.

 

 

 

 

Sarah Formhals <mrsfrmhls

rawfood

Friday, June 22, 2007 7:08:35 AM

Re: [Raw Food] Re: Salt again, I suppose

 

 

Maybe...When hubby and I eliminated salt from our

diet, we lost 8lbs in less than a week. The weight

never came back, but neither did the salt shaker

 

~Sarah

 

--- jeannieh h <jeannieh99 wrote:

 

> So is THAT my problem???? water weight?? Boy do I

> have alot of water in me.

>

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Em,

 

That is " raw " attraction. LOL

 

I didn't do a drawing, however, I have two framed pictures of veggies and in one

is garlic.........LOL

 

We are garlic buddies...........we have to detox from garlic together!!!

 

 

Jeannie

 

your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one.

 

 

 

 

Antie Em <emusedmary

rawfood

Friday, June 22, 2007 6:31:46 AM

[Raw Food] Re:Salt again, I suppose

 

 

Jeannie,

i have a charcoal drawing I did of them in my kitchen

Sketched the lovely skin of the onion-the papery wrap of the garlic

 

shows you how attached I am!

Emrawfood , jeannieh h <jeannieh99 wrote:

>

> Em,

>

> This just blows me away.....Think of all the Italian food, Greek

food, Middle Eastern food....you name it....garlic and onions are the

" glue " lol that make the dishes...........

>

> What a shame....

>

> So if we don't eat them...should they just go to waste??

>

>

> Jeannie

>

> your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to

no one.

>

>

>

>

> Antie Em <emusedmary

> rawfood

> Thursday, June 21, 2007 7:12:54 PM

> [Raw Food] Re:Salt again, I suppose

>

>

> > salt, nor the solution. She is doing better in spite of, not because

> of, the

> > salt.

> >

> > And yes, garlic harms the system, all one need do is eat none for a

> month or

> > two, then have some as the first " meal " of the day. There can be NO

> doubt

> > there, either.

>

> I had read somewhere about onions7 garlic being overstimulating.

> I love both and had no idea that garlic would be harmful

> I have always used a great deal of garlic in cooking.

> Thats very interesting info.

>

> Em

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Elchanan,

 

You are correct (not that you needed my validation..LOL) however, you are

correct... " acid reflux " ...we tend to take it for granted. One gets acid reflux,

we pop a zantac......or nexium and forget about it. We do this on a daily basis

and then it is no wonder as we get older we are hit by so many maladies. The

body finally gives in to all the years of destruction and abuse.

 

Headaches, we pop a tylenol, advil, or whatever brand you choose...

 

and on and on....

 

We don't stop to think that our body is indeed trying to " talk to us " . To tell

us " don't do that to me again " .

 

We are indeed, conditioned to believe that it is ok, just take a pill to correct

it.

 

I just can't resolve the issue in my head that if all these things are so bad

for us, why did God put them here for us to eat?

What do we do with them? What is or was their purpose in being here?

 

Sincerely,

 

Jeannie

 

your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one.

 

 

 

 

Elchanan <Elchanan

rawfood

Friday, June 22, 2007 12:32:22 AM

RE: [Raw Food] Re:Salt again, I suppose

 

 

Yes, my favorite cooked cuisines were Greek, Vietnamese, Italian, French ...

al of which love garlic, onions, alcohol, spices, herbs, the works. Last

time I ate some tomato sauce, I experienced a severe " acid reflux " response.

I imagine that response was always there, waiting to happen ... I just

needed the vitality FOR it to happen.

 

E

 

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rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

jeannieh h

Thursday, June 21, 2007 10:03 PM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] Re:Salt again, I suppose

 

 

Em,

 

This just blows me away.....Think of all the Italian food, Greek food,

Middle Eastern food....you name it....garlic and onions are the " glue " lol

that make the dishes...........

 

What a shame....

 

So if we don't eat them...should they just go to waste??

 

Jeannie

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

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jeannieh h

>You are correct (not that you needed my validation..LOL) however, you are

>correct... " acid reflux " ...we tend to take it for granted. One gets acid

>reflux, we pop a zantac......or nexium and forget about it. We do this on a

>daily basis and then it is no wonder as we get older we are hit by so many

>maladies. The body finally gives in to all the years of destruction and

>abuse.

>Headaches, we pop a tylenol, advil, or whatever brand you choose...

 

I've been amazed lately by the number of ads on tv where the people are

going through a normal day, then say " if it hadn't been for *insert pain

killer here*... " I've always associated chronic headaches and pain as a sign

that something is very wrong!

 

>I just can't resolve the issue in my head that if all these things are so

>bad for us, why did God put them here for us to eat?

What do we do with them? What is or was their purpose in being here?

 

I don't have an exact reference, but didn't God appoint man to oversee the

animals and plants? He didn't say " go forth and barbeque " , did he? What is

their purpose? Well, by the same token, what is OUR purpose? We're here to

populate the earth, that's it...and thus begins the existential angst ;o) As

far as the world being our smorgasbord, I've known from a very young age

that some berries are poisonous, as are some leaves, and know not to eat

them. I'm simply finding out that more things in this world are poisonous

than I previously knew about, and that some of those things we reduce or

remove the poison from, or at the very least disguise its flavour by

cooking, or salting or whatever. There are a lot of things occuring

naturally in this world that aren't for eating (coral, rocks, scorpians, to

name a few that come to mind); it makes perfect sense to me that the things

we ARE supposed to be eating shouldn't require beating into shape before we

can attempt to do so.

 

Keep thinking, and keep searching, until you can resolve it in your own

mind - we all have different thought processes, and different things make

sense in different ways. I'm still sorting a lot out for myself, I have a

lot to rethink, but living is learning, so I'm content )

 

Caron