Guest guest Report post Posted June 4, 2005 Hi Annie, I dont know much about this but have just found this on the web ( not that it makes anything clearer?!) British Hyperlipidaemia Society classifies level (Total Cholesterol) desirable (<5.2 mmol/I) borderline (5.2 -6.4 mmol/1) abnormal (6.5-7.8mmol/1) high (>7.8mmol/1) I always new I was abnormal! The Valley Vegan.......Annie <veganchicklol wrote: A lipid profile is a simple number produced by adding together the levels of high-density lipoproteins (HDL) and low-density lipoproteins (LDL), the so-called "good" and "bad" forms of cholesterol. However, researchers have now identified five subclasses of HDL, four subclasses of LDL, and others that are separated into classes. A lipid panel is a study of lipid proteins in the blood profiling the Triglycerides, Total Cholesterol, LDL Cholesterol, HDL Cholesterol, and HDL/Cholesterol Ratio. Since those numbers add up into hundreds, I'm not sure how yours would be 6.7 . , "Lynda" wrote:> What does your 6.7 refer to? Here the blood tests give you various numbers for various things and the 300 would be a total.> > Lynda> - > peter hurd > > Wednesday, June 01, 2005 2:42 AM> Re: Fw: Cholesterol> > > Hiya Annie,> Thanks for the reply, we seem to have a different yardstick over here, my measurement was 6.7, while you are talking in hundreds?!?!!? now my mind is well and truly boggled.> > The Valley Vegan....... > Annie wrote:> Hello. I'm Annie. The topic of cholesterol caught my attention, > because mine was so high before I went vegan. Even as a vegetarian it > was nearly 300. > I also am a non-drinker/smoker and do not fit the typical profile for > an "at risk" cholesterol. My doctor wrote a perscription for Baycor > (sp?) and Lipitor (sp?), but I never filled it. I didn't want to live > my life on pills if I could help it. > My numbers didn't drop dramatically going vegan. From 300 to 270. But > then I started excercising. That must have been key, because it > dropped to 145 and stayed there. It's been two years, now. Cardio > excercise was the turning point for me, even though I despise it! I > much prefer stretching and yoga.> Hope this was helpful. (?)> ~Annie> > > > > > To send an email to - > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 5, 2005 Keep in mind when dealing with your cholesterol level that genetics play a part in it. I'm veg (obviously), work out almost every day and just found out that my cholesterol is through the roof. My doctor told me that given my age (30) and lifestyle there has a genetic component at play. Fortunately, he decided that because I'm fairly young I don't need meds yet and that we're just going to keep an eye on it. Love, Anna - peter hurd 6/4/2005 8:34:50 AM Re: Fw: Cholesterol Hi Annie, I dont know much about this but have just found this on the web ( not that it makes anything clearer?!) British Hyperlipidaemia Society classifies level (Total Cholesterol) desirable (<5.2 mmol/I) borderline (5.2 -6.4 mmol/1) abnormal (6.5-7.8mmol/1) high (>7.8mmol/1) I always new I was abnormal! The Valley Vegan.......Annie <veganchicklol wrote: A lipid profile is a simple number produced by adding together the levels of high-density lipoproteins (HDL) and low-density lipoproteins (LDL), the so-called "good" and "bad" forms of cholesterol. However, researchers have now identified five subclasses of HDL, four subclasses of LDL, and others that are separated into classes. A lipid panel is a study of lipid proteins in the blood profiling the Triglycerides, Total Cholesterol, LDL Cholesterol, HDL Cholesterol, and HDL/Cholesterol Ratio. Since those numbers add up into hundreds, I'm not sure how yours would be 6.7 . , "Lynda" wrote:> What does your 6.7 refer to? Here the blood tests give you various numbers for various things and the 300 would be a total.> > Lynda> - > peter hurd > > Wednesday, June 01, 2005 2:42 AM> Re: Fw: Cholesterol> > > Hiya Annie,> Thanks for the reply, we seem to have a different yardstick over here, my measurement was 6.7, while you are talking in hundreds?!?!!? now my mind is well and truly boggled.> > The Valley Vegan....... > Annie wrote:> Hello. I'm Annie. The topic of cholesterol caught my attention, > because mine was so high before I went vegan. Even as a vegetarian it > was nearly 300. > I also am a non-drinker/smoker and do not fit the typical profile for > an "at risk" cholesterol. My doctor wrote a perscription for Baycor > (sp?) and Lipitor (sp?), but I never filled it. I didn't want to live > my life on pills if I could help it. > My numbers didn't drop dramatically going vegan. From 300 to 270. But > then I started excercising. That must have been key, because it > dropped to 145 and stayed there. It's been two years, now. Cardio > excercise was the turning point for me, even though I despise it! I > much prefer stretching and yoga.> Hope this was helpful. (?)> ~Annie> > > > > > To send an email to - > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 5, 2005 Hi Anna If you are veg does that mean you are eating dairy and eggs. If this is the case you are quite likely to have high cholesterol even if you do not have a familial tendency. If you give up dairy and eggs you may well find that your cholesterol will go down. Jo - Anna Blaine Sunday, June 05, 2005 12:21 AM Re: Fw: Cholesterol Keep in mind when dealing with your cholesterol level that genetics play a part in it. I'm veg (obviously), work out almost every day and just found out that my cholesterol is through the roof. My doctor told me that given my age (30) and lifestyle there has a genetic component at play. Fortunately, he decided that because I'm fairly young I don't need meds yet and that we're just going to keep an eye on it. Love, Anna - peter hurd 6/4/2005 8:34:50 AM Re: Fw: Cholesterol Hi Annie, I dont know much about this but have just found this on the web ( not that it makes anything clearer?!) British Hyperlipidaemia Society classifies level (Total Cholesterol) desirable (<5.2 mmol/I) borderline (5.2 -6.4 mmol/1) abnormal (6.5-7.8mmol/1) high (>7.8mmol/1) I always new I was abnormal! The Valley Vegan.......Annie <veganchicklol wrote: A lipid profile is a simple number produced by adding together the levels of high-density lipoproteins (HDL) and low-density lipoproteins (LDL), the so-called "good" and "bad" forms of cholesterol. However, researchers have now identified five subclasses of HDL, four subclasses of LDL, and others that are separated into classes. A lipid panel is a study of lipid proteins in the blood profiling the Triglycerides, Total Cholesterol, LDL Cholesterol, HDL Cholesterol, and HDL/Cholesterol Ratio. Since those numbers add up into hundreds, I'm not sure how yours would be 6.7 . , "Lynda" wrote:> What does your 6.7 refer to? Here the blood tests give you various numbers for various things and the 300 would be a total.> > Lynda> - > peter hurd > > Wednesday, June 01, 2005 2:42 AM> Re: Fw: Cholesterol> > > Hiya Annie,> Thanks for the reply, we seem to have a different yardstick over here, my measurement was 6.7, while you are talking in hundreds?!?!!? now my mind is well and truly boggled.> > The Valley Vegan....... > Annie wrote:> Hello. I'm Annie. The topic of cholesterol caught my attention, > because mine was so high before I went vegan. Even as a vegetarian it > was nearly 300. > I also am a non-drinker/smoker and do not fit the typical profile for > an "at risk" cholesterol. My doctor wrote a perscription for Baycor > (sp?) and Lipitor (sp?), but I never filled it. I didn't want to live > my life on pills if I could help it. > My numbers didn't drop dramatic ally going vegan. From 300 to 270. But > then I started excercising. That must have been key, because it > dropped to 145 and stayed there. It's been two years, now. Cardio > excercise was the turning point for me, even though I despise it! I > much prefer stretching and yoga.> Hope this was helpful. (?)> ~Annie> > > > > > To send an email to - > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 5, 2005 Hi Jo, I don't eat dairy or eggs, yet my cholesterol is 300. Explain that. Love, Anna - Jo Cwazy 6/5/2005 4:42:16 AM Re: Fw: Cholesterol Hi Anna If you are veg does that mean you are eating dairy and eggs. If this is the case you are quite likely to have high cholesterol even if you do not have a familial tendency. If you give up dairy and eggs you may well find that your cholesterol will go down. Jo - Anna Blaine Sunday, June 05, 2005 12:21 AM Re: Fw: Cholesterol Keep in mind when dealing with your cholesterol level that genetics play a part in it. I'm veg (obviously), work out almost every day and just found out that my cholesterol is through the roof. My doctor told me that given my age (30) and lifestyle there has a genetic component at play. Fortunately, he decided that because I'm fairly young I don't need meds yet and that we're just going to keep an eye on it. Love, Anna - peter hurd 6/4/2005 8:34:50 AM Re: Fw: Cholesterol Hi Annie, I dont know much about this but have just found this on the web ( not that it makes anything clearer?!) British Hyperlipidaemia Society classifies level (Total Cholesterol) desirable (<5.2 mmol/I) borderline (5.2 -6.4 mmol/1) abnormal (6.5-7.8mmol/1) high (>7.8mmol/1) I always new I was abnormal! The Valley Vegan.......Annie <veganchicklol wrote: A lipid profile is a simple number produced by adding together the levels of high-density lipoproteins (HDL) and low-density lipoproteins (LDL), the so-called "good" and "bad" forms of cholesterol. However, researchers have now identified five subclasses of HDL, four subclasses of LDL, and others that are separated into classes. A lipid panel is a study of lipid proteins in the blood profiling the Triglycerides, Total Cholesterol, LDL Cholesterol, HDL Cholesterol, and HDL/Cholesterol Ratio. Since those numbers add up into hundreds, I'm not sure how yours would be 6.7 . , "Lynda" wrote:> What does your 6.7 refer to? Here the blood tests give you various numbers for various things and the 300 would be a total.> > Lynda> - > peter hurd > > Wednesday, June 01, 2005 2:42 AM> Re: Fw: Cholesterol> > > Hiya Annie,> Thanks for the reply, we seem to have a different yardstick over here, my measurement was 6.7, while you are talking in hundreds?!?!!? now my mind is well and truly boggled.> > The Valley Vegan....... > Annie wrote:> Hello. I'm Annie. The topic of cholesterol caught my attention, > because mine was so high before I went vegan. Even as a vegetarian it > was nearly 300. > I also am a non-drinker/smoker and do not fit the typical profile for > an "at risk" cholesterol. My doctor wrote a perscription for Baycor > (sp?) and Lipitor (sp?), but I never filled it. I didn't want to live > my life on pills if I could help it. > My numbers didn't drop dramatic ally going vegan. From 300 to 270. But > then I started excercising. That must have been key, because it > dropped to 145 and stayed there. It's been two years, now. Cardio > excercise was the turning point for me, even though I despise it! I > much prefer stretching and yoga.> Hope this was helpful. (?)> ~Annie> > > > > > To send an email to - > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 5, 2005 alien abduction.... Anna Blaine Jun 5, 2005 11:35 AM Re: Fw: Cholesterol Hi Jo, I don't eat dairy or eggs, yet my cholesterol is 300. Explain that. Love, Anna Those who control the past, control the future; Those who control the future, control the present; Those who control the present, control the past.^ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 6, 2005 It must be familial then. Jo - Anna Blaine Sunday, June 05, 2005 7:35 PM Re: Fw: Cholesterol Hi Jo, I don't eat dairy or eggs, yet my cholesterol is 300. Explain that. Love, Anna - Jo Cwazy 6/5/2005 4:42:16 AM Re: Fw: Cholesterol Hi Anna If you are veg does that mean you are eating dairy and eggs. If this is the case you are quite likely to have high cholesterol even if you do not have a familial tendency. If you give up dairy and eggs you may well find that your cholesterol will go down. Jo - Anna Blaine Sunday, June 05, 2005 12:21 AM Re: Fw: Cholesterol Keep in mind when dealing with your cholesterol level that genetics play a part in it. I'm veg (obviously), work out almost every day and just found out that my cholesterol is through the roof. My doctor told me that given my age (30) and lifestyle there has a genetic component at play. Fortunately, he decided that because I'm fairly young I don't need meds yet and that we're just going to keep an eye on it. Love, Anna - peter hurd 6/4/2005 8:34:50 AM Re: Fw: Cholesterol Hi Annie, I dont know much about this but have just found this on the web ( not that it makes anything clearer?!) British Hyperlipidaemia Society classifies level (Total Cholesterol) desirable (<5.2 mmol/I) borderline (5.2 -6.4 mmol/1) abnormal (6.5-7.8mmol/1) high (>7.8mmol/1) I always new I was abnormal! The Valley Vegan.......Annie <veganchicklol wrote: A lipid profile is a simple number produced by adding together the levels of high-density lipoproteins (HDL) and low-density lipoproteins (LDL), the so-called "good" and "bad" forms of cholesterol. However, researchers have now identified five subclasses of HDL, four subclasses of LDL, and others that are separated into classes. A lipid panel is a study of lipid proteins in the blood profiling the Triglycerides, Total Cholesterol, LDL Cholesterol, HDL Cholesterol, and HDL/Cholesterol Ratio. Since those numbers add up into hundreds, I'm not sure how yours would be 6.7 . , "Lynda" wrote:> What does your 6.7 refer to? Here the blood tests give you various numbers for various things and the 300 would be a total.> > Lynda> - > peter hurd > > Wednesday, June 01, 2005 2:42 AM> Re: Fw: Cholesterol> > > Hiya Annie,> Thanks for the reply, we seem to have a different yardstick over here, my measurement was 6.7, while you are talking in hundreds?!?!!? now my mind is well and truly boggled.> > The Valley Vegan....... > Annie wrote:> Hello. I'm Annie. The topic of cholesterol caught my attention, > because mine was so high before I went vegan. Even as a vegetarian it > was nearly 300. > I also am a non-drinker/smoker and do not fit the typical profile for > an "at risk" cholesterol. My doctor wrote a perscription for Baycor > (sp?) and Lipitor (sp?), but I never filled it. I didn't want to live > my life on pills if I could help it. > My numbers didn't drop dramatic ally going vegan. From 300 to 270. But > then I started excercising. That must have been key, because it > dropped to 145 and stayed there. It's been two years, now. Cardio > excercise was the turning point for me, even though I despise it! I > much prefer stretching and yoga.> Hope this was helpful. (?)> ~Annie> > > > > > To send an email to - > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 6, 2005 rawfood , wMilmoe@a... wrote: Hi Bill! > Hey Bob: > > Thanks for you helpful and kind thoughts and posts. :>) you're welcome, and thank your for your kind expression of appreciation, keeps the engine running! LOL! > > My right ear is still aching, my left eye watering, I pacing myself and > getting through... Glad you're hangin' in there: and this too shall pass. sounds like your body is taking advantage of the good stuff you've been giving it, and the presumably lower digestive load, and using some of its extra energy to do some housecleaning. > :>) On the positive side my rash seems milder. 7 days on the nofat fruit > veg cleanse perhaps I should go back o eating avocados ( a past staple :>) ) no..no...bad idea...and you already know that! > > > Today I started my understanding of the NH " Treatment " for illness rest and > water only... good luck: keep us posted... > > > Some of the the cardiologists are changing there tune -- too many people with > TC of 170 having heart attacks and stroke and bypass surgery... Finally! > > At 170 a person's risk of having a heart attack or stroke before dying is 75% > -- quite high! > > Bill all the best, Bob (fellow journeyman) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 7, 2005 rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of wMilmoe Monday, June 06, 2005 10:41 AM rawfood ; rjf2 [Raw Food] Cholesterol At 170 a person's risk of having a heart attack or stroke before dying is 75% -- quite high! Bill _____ Not sure, but I seem to recall reading somewhere that the ratio of 75% with heart attacks and 25% working is ideal for drug company revenue projections and has therefore been adopted as an official target by the government. Oh, oops, I didn't realize the microphone was on.... Elchanan -- ------------------------ [ SECURITY NOTICE ] ------------------------ rawfood . For your security, vlinfo digitally signed this message on 07 June 2005 at 16:12:32 UTC. Verify this digital signature at http://www.ciphire.com/verify. ------------------- [ CIPHIRE DIGITAL SIGNATURE ] ------------------- Q2lwaGlyZSBTaWcuAVdyYXdmb29kQHlhaG9vZ3JvdXBzLmNvbQB2bGluZm9AZWFydGhsa W5rLm5ldABlbWFpbCBib2R5AP4BAAB8AHwAAAABAAAAcMelQv4BAACaAwACAAIAAgAgWd +jWXfInHvayeGZWK7egaxIx/Ds85ig0C7EzQ1Fg5gBAIYEpBOTbs87zkSZHhSIvzVVwfR ghtV1X2jI/sjxmdF9Tg4prITBBm1oQv0hCxoMLsvxIE+ICIKwpfOgRJrU8v08qm+8U2ln RW5k --------------------- [ END DIGITAL SIGNATURE ] --------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 7, 2005 INFO @ Vibrant Life wrote: > rawfood [rawfood ] On > Behalf Of > wMilmoe > Monday, June 06, 2005 10:41 AM > rawfood ; rjf2 > [Raw Food] Cholesterol > > At 170 a person's risk of having a heart attack or stroke before dying is > 75% > -- quite high! > > Bill > _____ > Not sure, but I seem to recall reading somewhere that the ratio of 75% > with > heart attacks and 25% working is ideal for drug company revenue > projections > and has therefore been adopted as an official target by the government. > > Oh, oops, I didn't realize the microphone was on.... > Elchanan ======================= LOL, gotta love a person with a sense of humor. You are in excellent form today Elchanan. -- Peace be with you, Elchanan. Don " Quai " Eitner " Spirit sleeps in the mineral, breathes in the vegetable, dreams in the animal and wakes in man. " Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 7, 2005 Hi Anna, Yes I`m afraid it is hereditary with me, so not a lot more I can do about it either. I cant say that I`m as fit as you sound, but I am not overwieght - physical jerks dont appeal to me.So I guess I have to live with it ( I hope?!). All The Best, The Valley Vegan.......Anna Blaine <anna333 wrote: Keep in mind when dealing with your cholesterol level that genetics play a part in it. I'm veg (obviously), work out almost every day and just found out that my cholesterol is through the roof. My doctor told me that given my age (30) and lifestyle there has a genetic component at play. Fortunately, he decided that because I'm fairly young I don't need meds yet and that we're just going to keep an eye on it. Love, Anna - peter hurd 6/4/2005 8:34:50 AM Re: Fw: Cholesterol Hi Annie, I dont know much about this but have just found this on the web ( not that it makes anything clearer?!) British Hyperlipidaemia Society classifies level (Total Cholesterol) desirable (<5.2 mmol/I) borderline (5.2 -6.4 mmol/1) abnormal (6.5-7.8mmol/1) high (>7.8mmol/1) I always new I was abnormal! The Valley Vegan.......Annie <veganchicklol wrote: A lipid profile is a simple number produced by adding together the levels of high-density lipoproteins (HDL) and low-density lipoproteins (LDL), the so-called "good" and "bad" forms of cholesterol. However, researchers have now identified five subclasses of HDL, four subclasses of LDL, and others that are separated into classes. A lipid panel is a study of lipid proteins in the blood profiling the Triglycerides, Total Cholesterol, LDL Cholesterol, HDL Cholesterol, and HDL/Cholesterol Ratio. Since those numbers add up into hundreds, I'm not sure how yours would be 6.7 . , "Lynda" wrote:> What does your 6.7 refer to? Here the blood tests give you various numbers for various things and the 300 would be a total.> > Lynda> - > peter hurd > > Wednesday, June 01, 2005 2:42 AM> Re: Fw: Cholesterol> > > Hiya Annie,> Thanks for the reply, we seem to have a different yardstick over here, my measurement was 6.7, while you are talking in hundreds?!?!!? now my mind is well and truly boggled.> > The Valley Vegan....... > Annie wrote:> Hello. I'm Annie. The topic of cholesterol caught my attention, > because mine was so high before I went vegan. Even as a vegetarian it > was nearly 300. > I also am a non-drinker/smoker and do not fit the typical profile for > an "at risk" cholesterol. My doctor wrote a perscription for Baycor > (sp?) and Lipitor (sp?), but I never filled it. I didn't want to live > my life on pills if I could help it. > My numbers didn't drop dramatically going vegan. From 300 to 270. But > then I started excercising. That must have been key, because it > dropped to 145 and stayed there. It's been two years, now. Cardio > excercise was the turning point for me, even though I despise it! I > much prefer stretching and yoga.> Hope this was helpful. (?)> ~Annie> > > > > > To send an email to - > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 23, 2008 I would love to make some suggestions, Liz, but last time I did I was shot down in flames by all the " experts " on this list. I hope you get the information you need. B On 23/05/2008, at 1:11 AM, Liz Vergnault wrote: > Hello- > I just got the news that my cholesterol is 253! My good > cholesterol is 97 and the bad is 56. I know the ratio is good, but > I'm concerned about the overall number. There is a strong line of > cardiovascular disease in my family, so there may be a hereditary > factor. I have gone back and forth on the eggs/dairy over the last > few years, but I'm willing to make any changes I need to, to bring > that down. My fasting glucose and triglycerides are good. Any > suggestions? Thanks! > Liz V. > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 23, 2008 Hello Liz, My cholesterol was high too when I was veg. When I went vegan I thought that would solve the problem right away it didn't. My doctor who is a good diet doctor, told me that while I was losing weight (I needed to) the fat I had stored up in my vegetarian days was being released into my blood stream raising my cholesterol level, that when I got my weight down it would lower. It did, it is now 143 and I am over 20 pounds lighter. Focus on greens and beans and watch out for too much oil. Best wishes Jane Liz Vergnault <evergnault Thursday, May 22, 2008 11:11:42 AM cholesterol Hello- I just got the news that my cholesterol is 253! My good cholesterol is 97 and the bad is 56. I know the ratio is good, but I'm concerned about the overall number. There is a strong line of cardiovascular disease in my family, so there may be a hereditary factor. I have gone back and forth on the eggs/dairy over the last few years, but I'm willing to make any changes I need to, to bring that down. My fasting glucose and triglycerides are good. Any suggestions? Thanks! Liz V. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 23, 2008 About 7 years ago, my cholesterol was 255. I went vegan - I did a combo of Dr. McDougall's and Dr. Furhman's (Eat to Live) programs. There is a great website with recipes that support these programs too - www.fatfreevegan.com - After a year, my cholesterol went way down to 155, but my triclycerides were high (because I was still eating refined sugar). 100 points in a year on any diet I think is good, but I can't say enough about how helpful these programs are - they are lifestyle programs, not diets. Susan , Liz Vergnault <evergnault wrote: > > Hello- > I just got the news that my cholesterol is 253! My good cholesterol is 97 and the bad is 56. I know the ratio is good, but I'm concerned about the overall number. There is a strong line of cardiovascular disease in my family, so there may be a hereditary factor. I have gone back and forth on the eggs/dairy over the last few years, but I'm willing to make any changes I need to, to bring that down. My fasting glucose and triglycerides are good. Any suggestions? Thanks! > Liz V. > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 23, 2008 Liz, Eliminating all animal products from your diet should greatly reduce your cholesterol. Also, exercise has been proven to help too - just walking regularly is enough to make a significant difference. Did your doctor make any suggestions? Jennifer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 24, 2008 You're welcome to e-mail me offlist if that makes you more comfortable evergnault at dot com Thanks for answering! Liz Becky <beckstar13 Friday, May 23, 2008 12:01:28 AM Re: cholesterol I would love to make some suggestions, Liz, but last time I did I was shot down in flames by all the " experts " on this list. I hope you get the information you need. B On 23/05/2008, at 1:11 AM, Liz Vergnault wrote: > Hello- > I just got the news that my cholesterol is 253! My good > cholesterol is 97 and the bad is 56. I know the ratio is good, but > I'm concerned about the overall number. There is a strong line of > cardiovascular disease in my family, so there may be a hereditary > factor. I have gone back and forth on the eggs/dairy over the last > few years, but I'm willing to make any changes I need to, to bring > that down. My fasting glucose and triglycerides are good. Any > suggestions? Thanks! > Liz V. > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 24, 2008 My doctor told me that if my diet was " good " that it was probably hereditary and I should take a statin drug. That just seems not right to me. I'm 32, I'm smart, and I'm willing to be proactive about my health. So, here I am Thanks! Liz Jennifer Simmons <callmearavis Friday, May 23, 2008 9:27:18 AM Re: cholesterol Liz, Eliminating all animal products from your diet should greatly reduce your cholesterol. Also, exercise has been proven to help too - just walking regularly is enough to make a significant difference. Did your doctor make any suggestions? Jennifer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 24, 2008 Oatmeal is also supposed to help lower your cholesterol. I think it's one bowl a day or something. My mom had a friend of hers who had issues with hers going too high and she was put on a 'special diet' by her doctor. She didn't cheat on it, and her numbers climbed higher. Turns out she had an issue with her body overcompensating and making too much cholesterol (I forget the name of the condition now), but she had other health issues as well that probably contributed to it (chronic fatigue and something else, I forget now). Hopefully you won't have those issues, but it's something to think about as well. I wish I could remember what it was called, if it was callled anything... Good luck. My husband just had some bloodwork done, and I think his was right around 200, but our doctor said that his ratios were good so she didn't worry about his number. Missie On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 12:27 PM, Jennifer Simmons <callmearavis wrote: > Liz, > Eliminating all animal products from your diet should greatly reduce your > cholesterol. Also, exercise has been proven to help too - just walking > regularly is enough to make a significant difference. > Did your doctor make any suggestions? > Jennifer > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 26, 2008 Hi Liz, My partner/husband was diagnosed with type II diabetes at the same time he was diagnosed with high cholesterol. He found that taking red yeast rice capsules does the same thing to lower his cholesterol as the statin meds did. He stopped taking the statins, and his last blood test showed normal ranges and his mainstream doctor actually prescribed that he continue the red yeast rice. Now just to get his diet into better shape so that he gets off the diabetes meds. (They've backed him down to the intro level dose, since he's improved his diet so much that that's all he needs - so we just have a little more to go now.) Oh, and he gets the red yeast rice in health food stores - it's a pretty common supplement, and usually in vegetarian capsules. Good luck!! Lorraine On Behalf Of Liz Vergnault Saturday, May 24, 2008 10:09 AM Re: cholesterol My doctor told me that if my diet was " good " that it was probably hereditary and I should take a statin drug. That just seems not right to me. I'm 32, I'm smart, and I'm willing to be proactive about my health. So, here I am Thanks! Liz Jennifer Simmons <callmearavis@ <callmearavis%40> > @gro <%40> ups.com Friday, May 23, 2008 9:27:18 AM Re: cholesterol Liz, Eliminating all animal products from your diet should greatly reduce your cholesterol. Also, exercise has been proven to help too - just walking regularly is enough to make a significant difference. Did your doctor make any suggestions? Jennifer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 26, 2008 Hi Liz, Oh, Missie's right and reminded me that cinnamon and walnuts are also good for cholesterol, and several other herbs and foods. We got advice from herbalists and homeopaths on another list I'm on, when my partner was first diagnosed with cholesterol probs. I can look them up for you, but really, after the red yeast rice, we just don't focus on the other things much anymore. Good health! Lorraine On Behalf Of Missie Ward Saturday, May 24, 2008 11:58 AM Re: cholesterol Oatmeal is also supposed to help lower your cholesterol. I think it's one bowl a day or something. My mom had a friend of hers who had issues with hers going too high and she was put on a 'special diet' by her doctor. She didn't cheat on it, and her numbers climbed higher. Turns out she had an issue with her body overcompensating and making too much cholesterol (I forget the name of the condition now), but she had other health issues as well that probably contributed to it (chronic fatigue and something else, I forget now). Hopefully you won't have those issues, but it's something to think about as well. I wish I could remember what it was called, if it was callled anything... Good luck. My husband just had some bloodwork done, and I think his was right around 200, but our doctor said that his ratios were good so she didn't worry about his number. Missie On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 12:27 PM, Jennifer Simmons <callmearavis@ <callmearavis%40> > wrote: > Liz, > Eliminating all animal products from your diet should greatly reduce your > cholesterol. Also, exercise has been proven to help too - just walking > regularly is enough to make a significant difference. > Did your doctor make any suggestions? > Jennifer > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 26, 2008 Have you tried eliminating all of the white foods (sugar, rice, pasta, bread, etc.)? You should be able to knock down your cholesterol a few points by cutting way down on simple carbs and upping the complex carbs (high fiber foods). Liz Vergnault <evergnault wrote: My doctor told me that if my diet was " good " that it was probably hereditary and I should take a statin drug. That just seems not right to me. I'm 32, I'm smart, and I'm willing to be proactive about my health. So, here I am Thanks! Liz Jennifer Simmons <callmearavis Friday, May 23, 2008 9:27:18 AM Re: cholesterol Liz, Eliminating all animal products from your diet should greatly reduce your cholesterol. Also, exercise has been proven to help too - just walking regularly is enough to make a significant difference. Did your doctor make any suggestions? Jennifer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 26, 2008 I just read this somewhere - I'll try it! Thanks! robin koloms <rkoloms Monday, May 26, 2008 3:57:42 AM Re: cholesterol Have you tried eliminating all of the white foods (sugar, rice, pasta, bread, etc.)? You should be able to knock down your cholesterol a few points by cutting way down on simple carbs and upping the complex carbs (high fiber foods). Liz Vergnault <evergnault > wrote: My doctor told me that if my diet was " good " that it was probably hereditary and I should take a statin drug. That just seems not right to me. I'm 32, I'm smart, and I'm willing to be proactive about my health. So, here I am Thanks! Liz Jennifer Simmons <callmearavis@ > @gro ups.com Friday, May 23, 2008 9:27:18 AM Re: cholesterol Liz, Eliminating all animal products from your diet should greatly reduce your cholesterol. Also, exercise has been proven to help too - just walking regularly is enough to make a significant difference. Did your doctor make any suggestions? Jennifer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 27, 2008 Hi Liz! My husband was faced with the same dilema as you when he was in his early twenties. His family has high cholesterol and his was found to be over 250. The doctor wanted to put him on medication immediately, but my husband wanted to see if he could change the level through diet. We were already vegetarian at the time and decided then and there to become vegan. Over the next year, through diet alone, my husband was able to get his level down to below 180 and recently, several years later, it is down to 165. The doctors were so amazed and couldn't believe that he did this by diet alone. They still think that he has some hereditary risk, but he is able to avoid the medication. My family also has high cholesterol, but through our diet, I was able to get my level to 113. I'm not sure if this would work with everyone, but it really worked for us. -Dawn Liz Vergnault <evergnault Saturday, May 24, 2008 1:09:12 PM Re: cholesterol My doctor told me that if my diet was " good " that it was probably hereditary and I should take a statin drug. That just seems not right to me. I'm 32, I'm smart, and I'm willing to be proactive about my health. So, here I am Thanks! Liz Jennifer Simmons <callmearavis@ > @gro ups.com Friday, May 23, 2008 9:27:18 AM Re: cholesterol Liz, Eliminating all animal products from your diet should greatly reduce your cholesterol. Also, exercise has been proven to help too - just walking regularly is enough to make a significant difference. Did your doctor make any suggestions? Jennifer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 29, 2008 The doctors were so amazed and couldn't believe that he did this by diet alone. I'm always amazed at doctors who are STILL unbelieving when it comes to the diet-health connection. Check out Hallelujah Acres website, Dr. Fuhrman's site, Dr. McDougall's site, Dr. Esselstyn (not sure if he has a website, but his book is excellent), and probably many others as well. They have hundreds, if not thousands of testimonies about what a vegan diet (eliminating dairy and eggs in addition to being just " vegetarian " ) did for people's health, high cholesterol included. No one needs to be " amazed " , especially not doctors, who should know better by now. The information is out there, and it is overwhelming! Marilyn Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 29, 2008 When I was in my early 20's, I had my cholesterol checked for the first time and it was high. I had been veg for many years and vegan for one. I didn't do anything different and over the next two years it came down so low that my doctor called me up to find out what I did. He was amazed and had never seen anyone come down that low without drugs. I didn't become vegan to lower my cholesterol, but I'm a big believer that it can make a difference if you give it a little time. Linda A Marketplace for a Better World (Cruelty-free, Environmentally-Conscious, and Fair Labor Products) http://triballife.net/ http://triballifeinc.blogspot.com/ My personal blog: http://veganlinda.blogspot.com/ sahmomof8 <sahmomof8 Thursday, May 29, 2008 8:01:43 AM Re: cholesterol The doctors were so amazed and couldn't believe that he did this by diet alone. I'm always amazed at doctors who are STILL unbelieving when it comes to the diet-health connection. Check out Hallelujah Acres website, Dr. Fuhrman's site, Dr. McDougall's site, Dr. Esselstyn (not sure if he has a website, but his book is excellent), and probably many others as well. They have hundreds, if not thousands of testimonies about what a vegan diet (eliminating dairy and eggs in addition to being just " vegetarian " ) did for people's health, high cholesterol included. No one needs to be " amazed " , especially not doctors, who should know better by now. The information is out there, and it is overwhelming! Marilyn Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 30, 2008 I just started browsing your blog and I love it, thanks for sharing, I will be back on to read more tonight. Paige _____ On Behalf Of Linda Evans Thursday, May 29, 2008 7:27 AM Re: Re: cholesterol When I was in my early 20's, I had my cholesterol checked for the first time and it was high. I had been veg for many years and vegan for one. I didn't do anything different and over the next two years it came down so low that my doctor called me up to find out what I did. He was amazed and had never seen anyone come down that low without drugs. I didn't become vegan to lower my cholesterol, but I'm a big believer that it can make a difference if you give it a little time. Linda A Marketplace for a Better World (Cruelty-free, Environmentally-Conscious, and Fair Labor Products) http://triballife. <http://triballife.net/> net/ http://triballifein <http://triballifeinc.blogspot.com/> c.blogspot.com/ My personal blog: http://veganlinda. <http://veganlinda.blogspot.com/> blogspot.com/ sahmomof8 <sahmomof8 (AT) aol (DOT) <sahmomof8%40aol.com> com> @gro <%40> ups.com Thursday, May 29, 2008 8:01:43 AM Re: cholesterol The doctors were so amazed and couldn't believe that he did this by diet alone. I'm always amazed at doctors who are STILL unbelieving when it comes to the diet-health connection. Check out Hallelujah Acres website, Dr. Fuhrman's site, Dr. McDougall's site, Dr. Esselstyn (not sure if he has a website, but his book is excellent), and probably many others as well. They have hundreds, if not thousands of testimonies about what a vegan diet (eliminating dairy and eggs in addition to being just " vegetarian " ) did for people's health, high cholesterol included. No one needs to be " amazed " , especially not doctors, who should know better by now. The information is out there, and it is overwhelming! Marilyn Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites