Cholesterol

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Hi Genie,

 

, genie bottle <geniesflower>

wrote:

> What I'm curious about is why you had good levels and then

suddenly have bad levels.

 

Yeah, me too!

 

> Olive oil increases the good cholesterol, you might add more of

that to your diet.

 

Thanks; I only have two oils in this house: extra virgin olive, and

canola. I almost never use the canola. I don't fry foods often,

either.

 

> My best suggestion though is to find a good dietician.

 

That makes two of you to suggest that, so thanks.

 

> Did your doctor ask about your diet at all? Most don't.

 

Nope. They mailed me something, and I called to talk with the nurse

is all. She didn't ask; I told her -- then she started telling me

to do things I already do. She did say up my exercise, and I

probably should.

 

> She just had surgery last week for a 2 cm tumor on her dura

pressing on her brain stem. She's OK, but the recovery will be

long. So don't give up!

 

Wow! I'm sure glad your friend will be okay. I'm with you on this;

I've heard many stories like this and have been disappointed by

doctors many times. Now, if I have a bone sticking out through my

skin, please get me a doctor! They do have their place. But, I

suspect that if we live right they don't need to be nearly as much

in our lives as they are. That's my goal, anyway. If I'm wrong,

I'll go to the doc and follow orders. I'm just the suspicious type

when it comes to doctors. lol! Thanks for your good words, Genie.

 

Melinda

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On Sun, 03 Nov 2002 19:01:30 -0000, you wrote:

 

>Wow! I'm sure glad your friend will be okay. I'm with you on this;

>I've heard many stories like this and have been disappointed by

>doctors many times. Now, if I have a bone sticking out through my

>skin, please get me a doctor! They do have their place. But, I

>suspect that if we live right they don't need to be nearly as much

>in our lives as they are. That's my goal, anyway. If I'm wrong,

>I'll go to the doc and follow orders. I'm just the suspicious type

>when it comes to doctors. lol! Thanks for your good words, Genie.

>

 

You have to have good judgement about it though. My

mother-in-law didn't and she died as a direct, 100% result

of not going to a doctor. Or you could say she died of

stupidity, really. Not kind, but true.

 

She very foolishly refused to go to a doctor for any reason

at all after the birth of her youngest child (my husband is

the oldest of three). She got away with it for almost 40

years, and then one day collapsed on the stairs in her house

(this was three years ago). She was then 72.

 

Anyway: it turned out that she had had undiagnosed diabetes

for a long time, and it had damaged all her organs beyond

repair. She was hospitalized, and after three really

agonizing months when she contracted one infection after

another, she died of multiple organ failure. At 72. And

not a good way to die, either, believe me.

 

A simple blood sugar test would have diagnosed the diabetes

in time for her to have averted all that. What a shame!

 

So get those yearly blood tests, please!

 

Pat

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I agree, I knew a man in his 40's who jogged five

miles a day and ate as healthy as you can and had to

take medication to control his high cholesterol.

Genetics plays a huge role in most of our maladies.

 

Warmly,

Allison

 

--- genie bottle <geniesflower wrote:

>

> Cholesterol.... is a good part diet and a huge part

> genetic. I'm not a medical doctor, but I have

> studied genetics a good bit. You can have parents

> with great blood tests but their combination of

> genes can give you the worst test results of anyone.

> Some people with bad luck genetically can eat

> nothing but carrot sticks and still have high

> cholesterol. Other people, like me, can eat a

> horrid diet and have results low enough that the

> nurse comments that they never see results that

> good.

> What I'm curious about is why you had good levels

> and then suddenly have bad levels. Olive oil

> increases the good cholesterol, you might add more

> of that to your diet. My best suggestion though is

> to find a good dietician. My OBGYN office has one

> on staff, you might ask for a referal. And, further

> blood testing could be in order. There could be

> other underlying medical reasons that are causing

> this beyond your DNA and diet. To me, it would be

> worth some on line research and then a good visit

> with a great doctor. Persistance will pay off. Did

> your doctor ask about your diet at all? Most don't.

> Just a note about bugging doctors until you get the

> treatment that you need... A friend of mine, a post

> doc in genetics who most would say is not stupid,

> kept going to the doctor complaining of numbness in

> the side of her face. They all patted her on the

> head and sent her home. She finally found one who

> did some tests... She just had surgery last week for

> a 2 cm tumor on her dura pressing on her brain stem.

> She's OK, but the recovery will be long. So don't

> give up! ONly you know if something is really wrong

> with your body.

> Good luck!

> Genie

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, Pat Meadows <pat@m...> wrote:

> So get those yearly blood tests, please!

 

Well, that's what I was in doing. Gettin' those stinkin' annual

tests. I don't have to like them, do I? lol!

 

Melinda

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In a message dated 6/25/04 3:25:58 AM,

writes:

 

 

>

> I think this is a good idea for anyone who wants to try it, but I

> did want to point out a few things about cholesterol. The article

> mentions " cholesterol-loaded beef burgers " , but from what I have

> read, it is important to eat high-cholesterol foods every day. Some

> of you may remember I am on a lower-carb plan (Somersize), and I'm

> not trying to push meat or anything--I respect the vegetarian

> lifestyle and eat LOTS of veggies myself--but according to leading

> endocrinologist Dr. Diana Schwarzbein, if you don't eat foods with

> cholesterol, your body will overproduce it. She says you can eat

> eggs, beef, etc. every day.

>

> " Cholesterol from foods reacts very differently in the body than the

> cholesterol created in your body does. It is the cholesterol that is

> created from excessive carbohydrate intake and unused energy sources

> that is damaging to your body and can increse your risk of heart

> disease, " she says.

>

> Eating cholesterol actually helps prevent heart disease, she says,

> and beef has steric acid in it that helps lower cholesterol.

>

> Her book " The Schwarzbein Principle " is an eye opener and I highly

> recommend it. She also has other books that include vegetarian

> recipes if anyone wants to check them out.

>

> Just wanted to pass that bit of information along.

>

> Cindy

>

>

 

hi, cindy--

 

i would need to see the science behind this. i've never heard any similar

information before (and i do a LOT of research about nutrition). i know that

my cholesterol, which wasn't high to begin with, dropped SIGNIFICANTLY and

stayed down after i went vegan. i also know that when my clients eliminate

high-cholesterol foods from their diets in conjunction with their weight loss,

their dependency on cholesterol meds diminishes or disappears.

 

if you have more information to support the hypothesis your endocrinologist

proposes, i'd be interested in seeing it.

 

thanks,

 

melody

 

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http://www.melodysmusic.net

 

 

 

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yes but i'm thinking yr body can't contain that much...and i

personally think she's making up excuses.... she's just lazy and fat

and eats too much disgusting fattening take-out and greasy sandwiches

and burgers....

 

casey

 

 

 

 

, Jim Sinclair <jisincla@m...> wrote:

> On Sun, 16 Jan 2005, veganmunkee wrote:

>

> > i tell her the day after i get the call...what mine was..i was

> > like...cuz i'm vegan...i don't EAT cholesterol...she tells me..she

> > think that even if she didn't eat cholesterol she would still have

> > high cholesterol..cuz it runs in her family...

>

> It is entirely possible that she's right. I'm vegan and don't eat

> cholesterol, but high cholesterol does run in my family and mine needs

> watching (though fortunately I don't need to take medication for

it). Not

> that I consider that a good " excuse " for eating animal products that

> contain cholesterol--after all, if my cholesterol is already borderline

> even *without* eating anything that contains cholesterol, it'd

probably be

> a lot higher if I *weren't* vegan. And your friend's would probably be

> lower than it is if she *were* vegan. But it still might be high,

because

> the body does produce cholesterol on its own, and high cholesterol

can be

> caused by genetic factors as well as by diet.

>

> Jim Sinclair jisincla@m...

[Guest guest]

speaking of that thing where it says it obsessive to brig healthy food

with you.... an excuse i hear a lot at work is...i've gotten so fat

from working at this place...all i eat is take-out....

 

and.... what kidn of excuse is that...it's called cooking and bringing

it to work...and other excuse for laziness...somehow i'm always at

work and still found a way to lose 40 lbs from when i was vegetarian

(too much cheese ugh)

 

casey

 

 

 

 

 

, Jim Sinclair <jisincla@m...> wrote:

> On Sun, 16 Jan 2005, veganmunkee wrote:

>

> > i tell her the day after i get the call...what mine was..i was

> > like...cuz i'm vegan...i don't EAT cholesterol...she tells me..she

> > think that even if she didn't eat cholesterol she would still have

> > high cholesterol..cuz it runs in her family...

>

> It is entirely possible that she's right. I'm vegan and don't eat

> cholesterol, but high cholesterol does run in my family and mine needs

> watching (though fortunately I don't need to take medication for

it). Not

> that I consider that a good " excuse " for eating animal products that

> contain cholesterol--after all, if my cholesterol is already borderline

> even *without* eating anything that contains cholesterol, it'd

probably be

> a lot higher if I *weren't* vegan. And your friend's would probably be

> lower than it is if she *were* vegan. But it still might be high,

because

> the body does produce cholesterol on its own, and high cholesterol

can be

> caused by genetic factors as well as by diet.

>

> Jim Sinclair jisincla@m...

[Guest guest]

Hi Jo, what do you know?

 

I have to visit the quak on Thursday to discus my cholestrol level as they said it was too high, but wont discuss it on the phone or give me any idea as to what the level is without tying up the GP for 10-15 minutes. Even though I have family history of heart problems, I feel informed enough to know enough about the subject to act on it on my own, unless medication is needed. I have been a vegan for 15 years , vegie 5 before that, am 5`10, and 140 pounds, dont smoke, dont drink ( to excess), so I am not your typical target for this type of problem. I would rather they sort out my constant back problems, but that they cannot figure out!

Well there I go, its just me, me, me, me, me isnt it!

Who is growing what in the garden at the moment? I have just germinated some herbs ( coriander/chives & basil ), so will be pricking out and potting up in a week or so, and my dwarf French beans are just poking up through the soil. I have just given my garden a good mulch of compost from my heap ready for some more flowers to go in when they are big enough to take on the slugs and snails.

Does anyone know of a vegan plant food ( seaweed based maybe?)

 

The Valley Vegan...........Jo Cwazy <heartwork wrote:

 

Hi Peter

 

With regard to the cholesterol, some is made in the liver - usually just the right amount as we need some cholesterol. This fact, of course, does not detract from the fact that we do need to be careful of the foods we eat so that we don't have too much of the wrong kind of cholesterol - hence why, if we were not vegan, and eating good quality margarine, we would need to be careful not to eat much butter or animal fat.

 

As you are vegan, your blood is likely to have a good profile, so you do not really have to make an effort to remember the ins and outs of cholesterol.

 

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Hiya Peter,

I use a bull kelp extract from Tasmania mixed with Neem seed oil and Organic dish soap (as a wetting agent)

about 4 parts kelp 1 part Neem seed oil 1/2 part dish soap

the only other thing I use is lawn cuttings and Epson salts (we are have magnesium poor soil)

everything grows great

because of the coastal wether I live in (Perth Western Australia) we can grow many things year round

I try to plant early or late to make insect damage a small problem.

the Neem seed oil also makes a great surface spray on all plants to keep most garden pests away I do add a cap full of eucalyptus oil to the spray to help keep aphids away too.

 

right now I have garlic, jalapenos, eggplant, celery, radishes, parsnips, turnip, Swedes, basil, bush beans, beets, kohl rabi,

sweet potato, lettuce, rocket, a few tomatoes and tomatillos and about to plant pumpkins and melons

yum yum

 

all the best

Craig

 

 

Cholesterol

Hi Jo, what do you know?

 

I have to visit the quak on Thursday to discus my cholestrol level as they said it was too high, but wont discuss it on the phone or give me any idea as to what the level is without tying up the GP for 10-15 minutes. Even though I have family history of heart problems, I feel informed enough to know enough about the subject to act on it on my own, unless medication is needed. I have been a vegan for 15 years , vegie 5 before that, am 5`10, and 140 pounds, dont smoke, dont drink ( to excess), so I am not your typical target for this type of problem. I would rather they sort out my constant back problems, but that they cannot figure out!

Well there I go, its just me, me, me, me, me isnt it!

Who is growing what in the garden at the moment? I have just germinated some herbs ( coriander/chives & basil ), so will be pricking out and potting up in a week or so, and my dwarf French beans are just poking up through the soil. I have just given my garden a good mulch of compost from my heap ready for some more flowers to go in when they are big enough to take on the slugs and snails.

Does anyone know of a vegan plant food ( seaweed based maybe?)

 

The Valley Vegan...........Jo Cwazy <heartwork wrote:

 

Hi Peter

 

With regard to the cholesterol, some is made in the liver - usually just the right amount as we need some cholesterol. This fact, of course, does not detract from the fact that we do need to be careful of the foods we eat so that we don't have too much of the wrong kind of cholesterol - hence why, if we were not vegan, and eating good quality margarine, we would need to be careful not to eat much butter or animal fat.

 

As you are vegan, your blood is likely to have a good profile, so you do not really have to make an effort to remember the ins and outs of cholesterol.

 

BBJo

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Craig,

I am so, so jealous having only a small back garden ( live in a terraced house ). I have just salivated over the libraries computer reading the list of things that you are growing, mind you , I expect the weathers a little bit different in the the Welsh Mountain valleys to sunny Oz? eh?

I like the sound of your insect repelant, dont think it would repel the hoardes of slugs and snails though.

Nice to have a snap shot of your garden , thanks mate!

 

The Valley Vegan........

Craig Dearth <cd39 wrote:

 

Hiya Peter,

I use a bull kelp extract from Tasmania mixed with Neem seed oil and Organic dish soap (as a wetting agent)

about 4 parts kelp 1 part Neem seed oil 1/2 part dish soap

the only other thing I use is lawn cuttings and Epson salts (we are have magnesium poor soil)

everything grows great

because of the coastal wether I live in (Perth Western Australia) we can grow many things year round

I try to plant early or late to make insect damage a small problem.

the Neem seed oil also makes a great surface spray on all plants to keep most garden pests away I do add a cap full of eucalyptus oil to the spray to help keep aphids away too.

 

right now I have garlic, jalapenos, eggplant, celery, radishes, parsnips, turnip, Swedes, basil, bush beans, beets, kohl rabi,

sweet potato, lettuce, rocket, a few tomatoes and tomatillos and about to plant pumpkins and melons

yum yum

 

all the best

Craig

 

 

Cholesterol

Hi Jo, what do you know?

 

I have to visit the quak on Thursday to discus my cholestrol level as they said it was too high, but wont discuss it on the phone or give me any idea as to what the level is without tying up the GP for 10-15 minutes. Even though I have family history of heart problems, I feel informed enough to know enough about the subject to act on it on my own, unless medication is needed. I have been a vegan for 15 years , vegie 5 before that, am 5`10, and 140 pounds, dont smoke, dont drink ( to excess), so I am not your typical target for this type of problem. I would rather they sort out my constant back problems, but that they cannot figure out!

Well there I go, its just me, me, me, me, me isnt it!

Who is growing what in the garden at the moment? I have just germinated some herbs ( coriander/chives & basil ), so will be pricking out and potting up in a week or so, and my dwarf French beans are just poking up through the soil. I have just given my garden a good mulch of compost from my heap ready for some more flowers to go in when they are big enough to take on the slugs and snails.

Does anyone know of a vegan plant food ( seaweed based maybe?)

 

The Valley Vegan...........Jo Cwazy <heartwork wrote:

 

Hi Peter

 

With regard to the cholesterol, some is made in the liver - usually just the right amount as we need some cholesterol. This fact, of course, does not detract from the fact that we do need to be careful of the foods we eat so that we don't have too much of the wrong kind of cholesterol - hence why, if we were not vegan, and eating good quality margarine, we would need to be careful not to eat much butter or animal fat.

 

As you are vegan, your blood is likely to have a good profile, so you do not really have to make an effort to remember the ins and outs of cholesterol.

 

BBJoTo send an email to - Peter H

 

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Welll, since you wouldn't use egg shells or diasomis (I never can spell that) earth, how about copper strips. They sell them here (kinda looks like tape) to keep them out of designated areas. And, good old beer works good.

 

Lynda, who used to live in the banana slug capital of the world <g>

 

-

peter hurd

Saturday, May 21, 2005 8:24 AM

Re: RE: Cholesterol

 

Craig,

I am so, so jealous having only a small back garden ( live in a terraced house ). I have just salivated over the libraries computer reading the list of things that you are growing, mind you , I expect the weathers a little bit different in the the Welsh Mountain valleys to sunny Oz? eh?

I like the sound of your insect repelant, dont think it would repel the hoardes of slugs and snails though.

Nice to have a snap shot of your garden , thanks mate!

 

The Valley Vegan........

Craig Dearth <cd39 wrote:

 

Hiya Peter,

I use a bull kelp extract from Tasmania mixed with Neem seed oil and Organic dish soap (as a wetting agent)

about 4 parts kelp 1 part Neem seed oil 1/2 part dish soap

the only other thing I use is lawn cuttings and Epson salts (we are have magnesium poor soil)

everything grows great

because of the coastal wether I live in (Perth Western Australia) we can grow many things year round

I try to plant early or late to make insect damage a small problem.

the Neem seed oil also makes a great surface spray on all plants to keep most garden pests away I do add a cap full of eucalyptus oil to the spray to help keep aphids away too.

 

right now I have garlic, jalapenos, eggplant, celery, radishes, parsnips, turnip, Swedes, basil, bush beans, beets, kohl rabi,

sweet potato, lettuce, rocket, a few tomatoes and tomatillos and about to plant pumpkins and melons

yum yum

 

all the best

Craig

 

 

Cholesterol

Hi Jo, what do you know?

 

I have to visit the quak on Thursday to discus my cholestrol level as they said it was too high, but wont discuss it on the phone or give me any idea as to what the level is without tying up the GP for 10-15 minutes. Even though I have family history of heart problems, I feel informed enough to know enough about the subject to act on it on my own, unless medication is needed. I have been a vegan for 15 years , vegie 5 before that, am 5`10, and 140 pounds, dont smoke, dont drink ( to excess), so I am not your typical target for this type of problem. I would rather they sort out my constant back problems, but that they cannot figure out!

Well there I go, its just me, me, me, me, me isnt it!

Who is growing what in the garden at the moment? I have just germinated some herbs ( coriander/chives & basil ), so will be pricking out and potting up in a week or so, and my dwarf French beans are just poking up through the soil. I have just given my garden a good mulch of compost from my heap ready for some more flowers to go in when they are big enough to take on the slugs and snails.

Does anyone know of a vegan plant food ( seaweed based maybe?)

 

The Valley Vegan...........Jo Cwazy <heartwork wrote:

 

Hi Peter

 

With regard to the cholesterol, some is made in the liver - usually just the right amount as we need some cholesterol. This fact, of course, does not detract from the fact that we do need to be careful of the foods we eat so that we don't have too much of the wrong kind of cholesterol - hence why, if we were not vegan, and eating good quality margarine, we would need to be careful not to eat much butter or animal fat.

 

As you are vegan, your blood is likely to have a good profile, so you do not really have to make an effort to remember the ins and outs of cholesterol.

 

BBJoTo send an email to -

Peter H

 

 

 

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Oh yeah, go ahead, brag and make us feel bad!

 

Lynda, who had snow on the first day of spring and is told will have frost until June.

 

-

Craig Dearth

Saturday, May 21, 2005 8:15 AM

RE: Cholesterol

 

Hiya Peter,

I use a bull kelp extract from Tasmania mixed with Neem seed oil and Organic dish soap (as a wetting agent)

about 4 parts kelp 1 part Neem seed oil 1/2 part dish soap

the only other thing I use is lawn cuttings and Epson salts (we are have magnesium poor soil)

everything grows great

because of the coastal wether I live in (Perth Western Australia) we can grow many things year round

I try to plant early or late to make insect damage a small problem.

the Neem seed oil also makes a great surface spray on all plants to keep most garden pests away I do add a cap full of eucalyptus oil to the spray to help keep aphids away too.

 

right now I have garlic, jalapenos, eggplant, celery, radishes, parsnips, turnip, Swedes, basil, bush beans, beets, kohl rabi,

sweet potato, lettuce, rocket, a few tomatoes and tomatillos and about to plant pumpkins and melons

yum yum

 

all the best

Craig

 

 

Cholesterol

Hi Jo, what do you know?

 

I have to visit the quak on Thursday to discus my cholestrol level as they said it was too high, but wont discuss it on the phone or give me any idea as to what the level is without tying up the GP for 10-15 minutes. Even though I have family history of heart problems, I feel informed enough to know enough about the subject to act on it on my own, unless medication is needed. I have been a vegan for 15 years , vegie 5 before that, am 5`10, and 140 pounds, dont smoke, dont drink ( to excess), so I am not your typical target for this type of problem. I would rather they sort out my constant back problems, but that they cannot figure out!

Well there I go, its just me, me, me, me, me isnt it!

Who is growing what in the garden at the moment? I have just germinated some herbs ( coriander/chives & basil ), so will be pricking out and potting up in a week or so, and my dwarf French beans are just poking up through the soil. I have just given my garden a good mulch of compost from my heap ready for some more flowers to go in when they are big enough to take on the slugs and snails.

Does anyone know of a vegan plant food ( seaweed based maybe?)

 

The Valley Vegan...........Jo Cwazy <heartwork wrote:

 

Hi Peter

 

With regard to the cholesterol, some is made in the liver - usually just the right amount as we need some cholesterol. This fact, of course, does not detract from the fact that we do need to be careful of the foods we eat so that we don't have too much of the wrong kind of cholesterol - hence why, if we were not vegan, and eating good quality margarine, we would need to be careful not to eat much butter or animal fat.

 

As you are vegan, your blood is likely to have a good profile, so you do not really have to make an effort to remember the ins and outs of cholesterol.

 

BBJoTo send an email to -

[Guest guest]

Peter,

we get snails and slugs here too

and you are right they Neem seed oil does not effect them

I have had to take drastic measures and use the beer in a pan method

snails love beer .

we get this little snail called the bush snail (probably has a real name that's just what we call it)

they come in by the 10,000s so I put out a couple dozen pans of beer when it gets too bad.

other wise I just collect them up in a bucket and find them a better home

all the best

Craig

 

 

 

Craig,

I am so, so jealous having only a small back garden ( live in a terraced house ). I have just salivated over the libraries computer reading the list of things that you are growing, mind you , I expect the weathers a little bit different in the the Welsh Mountain valleys to sunny Oz? eh?

I like the sound of your insect repelant, dont think it would repel the hoardes of slugs and snails though.

Nice to have a snap shot of your garden , thanks mate!

 

The Valley Vegan........

Craig Dearth <cd39 wrote:

 

Hiya Peter,

I use a bull kelp extract from Tasmania mixed with Neem seed oil and Organic dish soap (as a wetting agent)

about 4 parts kelp 1 part Neem seed oil 1/2 part dish soap

the only other thing I use is lawn cuttings and Epson salts (we are have magnesium poor soil)

everything grows great

because of the coastal wether I live in (Perth Western Australia) we can grow many things year round

I try to plant early or late to make insect damage a small problem.

the Neem seed oil also makes a great surface spray on all plants to keep most garden pests away I do add a cap full of eucalyptus oil to the spray to help keep aphids away too.

 

right now I have garlic, jalapenos, eggplant, celery, radishes, parsnips, turnip, Swedes, basil, bush beans, beets, kohl rabi,

sweet potato, lettuce, rocket, a few tomatoes and tomatillos and about to plant pumpkins and melons

yum yum

 

all the best

Craig

 

 

Cholesterol

Hi Jo, what do you know?

 

I have to visit the quak on Thursday to discus my cholestrol level as they said it was too high, but wont discuss it on the phone or give me any idea as to what the level is without tying up the GP for 10-15 minutes. Even though I have family history of heart problems, I feel informed enough to know enough about the subject to act on it on my own, unless medication is needed. I have been a vegan for 15 years , vegie 5 before that, am 5`10, and 140 pounds, dont smoke, dont drink ( to excess), so I am not your typical target for this type of problem. I would rather they sort out my constant back problems, but that they cannot figure out!

Well there I go, its just me, me, me, me, me isnt it!

Who is growing what in the garden at the moment? I have just germinated some herbs ( coriander/chives & basil ), so will be pricking out and potting up in a week or so, and my dwarf French beans are just poking up through the soil. I have just given my garden a good mulch of compost from my heap ready for some more flowers to go in when they are big enough to take on the slugs and snails.

Does anyone know of a vegan plant food ( seaweed based maybe?)

 

The Valley Vegan...........

[Guest guest]

I have developed the impression over the past few years that the

importance of Cholesterol has turned out to be a red herring and

that your Homocystein level is what matters. Unfortunatly it is

expensive to have your level measured in the UK and Ireland as there

are only 2 labs doing it. What do other people think of this and do

you still worry about Cholesterol or are you watching your

Homocystein instead.

Mary

, peter hurd <swpgh01@t...> wrote:

> Hi Jo, what do you know?

>

> I have to visit the quak on Thursday to discus my cholestrol level

as they said it was too high, but wont discuss it on the phone or

give me any idea as to what the level is without tying up the GP for

10-15 minutes. Even though I have family history of heart problems,

I feel informed enough to know enough about the subject to act on it

on my own, unless medication is needed. I have been a vegan for 15

years , vegie 5 before that, am 5`10, and 140 pounds, dont smoke,

dont drink ( to excess), so I am not your typical target for this

type of problem. I would rather they sort out my constant back

problems, but that they cannot figure out!

> Well there I go, its just me, me, me, me, me isnt it!

> Who is growing what in the garden at the moment? I have just

germinated some herbs ( coriander/chives & basil ), so will be

pricking out and potting up in a week or so, and my dwarf French

beans are just poking up through the soil. I have just given my

garden a good mulch of compost from my heap ready for some more

flowers to go in when they are big enough to take on the slugs and

snails.

> Does anyone know of a vegan plant food ( seaweed based maybe?)

>

> The Valley Vegan...........

>

> Jo Cwazy <heartwork@c...> wrote:

> Hi Peter

>

> With regard to the cholesterol, some is made in the liver -

usually just the right amount as we need some cholesterol. This

fact, of course, does not detract from the fact that we do need to

be careful of the foods we eat so that we don't have too much of the

wrong kind of cholesterol - hence why, if we were not vegan, and

eating good quality margarine, we would need to be careful not to

eat much butter or animal fat.

>

> As you are vegan, your blood is likely to have a good profile, so

you do not really have to make an effort to remember the ins and

outs of cholesterol.

>

> BB

> Jo

>

>

> To send an email to -

 

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Craig,

Desperate measures wasting beer!, I hope it wasnt vegan!!!!

I`m afraid that I have taken to throwing mine onto my garage roof and letting nature take its course ( the birds take a keen interest - if you know what I mean!). If only I could breed millions of nemotodes instead..

 

Now that I have appalled you I will go.....

 

The Valley Vegan............

Expecting a backlashCraig Dearth <cd39 wrote:

 

Peter,

we get snails and slugs here too

and you are right they Neem seed oil does not effect them

I have had to take drastic measures and use the beer in a pan method

snails love beer .

we get this little snail called the bush snail (probably has a real name that's just what we call it)

they come in by the 10,000s so I put out a couple dozen pans of beer when it gets too bad.

other wise I just collect them up in a bucket and find them a better home

all the best

Craig

 

 

 

Craig,

I am so, so jealous having only a small back garden ( live in a terraced house ). I have just salivated over the libraries computer reading the list of things that you are growing, mind you , I expect the weathers a little bit different in the the Welsh Mountain valleys to sunny Oz? eh?

I like the sound of your insect repelant, dont think it would repel the hoardes of slugs and snails though.

Nice to have a snap shot of your garden , thanks mate!

 

The Valley Vegan........

Craig Dearth <cd39 wrote:

 

Hiya Peter,

I use a bull kelp extract from Tasmania mixed with Neem seed oil and Organic dish soap (as a wetting agent)

about 4 parts kelp 1 part Neem seed oil 1/2 part dish soap

the only other thing I use is lawn cuttings and Epson salts (we are have magnesium poor soil)

everything grows great

because of the coastal wether I live in (Perth Western Australia) we can grow many things year round

I try to plant early or late to make insect damage a small problem.

the Neem seed oil also makes a great surface spray on all plants to keep most garden pests away I do add a cap full of eucalyptus oil to the spray to help keep aphids away too.

 

right now I have garlic, jalapenos, eggplant, celery, radishes, parsnips, turnip, Swedes, basil, bush beans, beets, kohl rabi,

sweet potato, lettuce, rocket, a few tomatoes and tomatillos and about to plant pumpkins and melons

yum yum

 

all the best

Craig

 

 

Cholesterol

Hi Jo, what do you know?

 

I have to visit the quak on Thursday to discus my cholestrol level as they said it was too high, but wont discuss it on the phone or give me any idea as to what the level is without tying up the GP for 10-15 minutes. Even though I have family history of heart problems, I feel informed enough to know enough about the subject to act on it on my own, unless medication is needed. I have been a vegan for 15 years , vegie 5 before that, am 5`10, and 140 pounds, dont smoke, dont drink ( to excess), so I am not your typical target for this type of problem. I would rather they sort out my constant back problems, but that they cannot figure out!

Well there I go, its just me, me, me, me, me isnt it!

Who is growing what in the garden at the moment? I have just germinated some herbs ( coriander/chives & basil ), so will be pricking out and potting up in a week or so, and my dwarf French beans are just poking up through the soil. I have just given my garden a good mulch of compost from my heap ready for some more flowers to go in when they are big enough to take on the slugs and snails.

Does anyone know of a vegan plant food ( seaweed based maybe?)

 

The Valley Vegan...........To send an email to - Peter H

 

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[Guest guest]

-

" Jo Cwazy " <heartwork

 

Saturday, May 28, 2005 10:07 PM

Re: Re: Cholesterol

 

 

> Hi Mary

>

> I think you are right about the homocysteine levels. I haven't had my

blood

> tested for two years, but when I did it was 'an excellent profile'

> apparently.

>

> Jo

>

> -

> " Mary Minihane " <minih

>

> Sunday, May 22, 2005 12:47 PM

> Re: Cholesterol

>

>

> > I have developed the impression over the past few years that the

> > importance of Cholesterol has turned out to be a red herring and

> > that your Homocystein level is what matters. Unfortunatly it is

> > expensive to have your level measured in the UK and Ireland as there

> > are only 2 labs doing it. What do other people think of this and do

> > you still worry about Cholesterol or are you watching your

> > Homocystein instead.

> > Mary

> > , peter hurd <swpgh01@t...> wrote:

> > > Hi Jo, what do you know?

> > >

> > > I have to visit the quak on Thursday to discus my cholestrol level

> > as they said it was too high, but wont discuss it on the phone or

> > give me any idea as to what the level is without tying up the GP for

> > 10-15 minutes. Even though I have family history of heart problems,

> > I feel informed enough to know enough about the subject to act on it

> > on my own, unless medication is needed. I have been a vegan for 15

> > years , vegie 5 before that, am 5`10, and 140 pounds, dont smoke,

> > dont drink ( to excess), so I am not your typical target for this

> > type of problem. I would rather they sort out my constant back

> > problems, but that they cannot figure out!

> > > Well there I go, its just me, me, me, me, me isnt it!

> > > Who is growing what in the garden at the moment? I have just

> > germinated some herbs ( coriander/chives & basil ), so will be

> > pricking out and potting up in a week or so, and my dwarf French

> > beans are just poking up through the soil. I have just given my

> > garden a good mulch of compost from my heap ready for some more

> > flowers to go in when they are big enough to take on the slugs and

> > snails.

> > > Does anyone know of a vegan plant food ( seaweed based maybe?)

> > >

> > > The Valley Vegan...........

> > >

> > > Jo Cwazy <heartwork@c...> wrote:

> > > Hi Peter

> > >

> > > With regard to the cholesterol, some is made in the liver -

> > usually just the right amount as we need some cholesterol. This

> > fact, of course, does not detract from the fact that we do need to

> > be careful of the foods we eat so that we don't have too much of the

> > wrong kind of cholesterol - hence why, if we were not vegan, and

> > eating good quality margarine, we would need to be careful not to

> > eat much butter or animal fat.

> > >

> > > As you are vegan, your blood is likely to have a good profile, so

> > you do not really have to make an effort to remember the ins and

> > outs of cholesterol.

> > >

> > > BB

> > > Jo

> > >

> > >

> > > To send an email to -

> >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Hello. I'm Annie. The topic of cholesterol caught my attention,

because mine was so high before I went vegan. Even as a vegetarian it

was nearly 300.

I also am a non-drinker/smoker and do not fit the typical profile for

an " at risk " cholesterol. My doctor wrote a perscription for Baycor

(sp?) and Lipitor (sp?), but I never filled it. I didn't want to live

my life on pills if I could help it.

My numbers didn't drop dramatically going vegan. From 300 to 270. But

then I started excercising. That must have been key, because it

dropped to 145 and stayed there. It's been two years, now. Cardio

excercise was the turning point for me, even though I despise it! I

much prefer stretching and yoga.

Hope this was helpful. (?)

~Annie

[Guest guest]

Hi Annie

 

That is interesting. It seems that brisk exercise is good for everything.

I too prefer yoga and tai chi though.

 

Jo

-

" Annie " <veganchicklol

 

Sunday, May 29, 2005 11:02 PM

Re: Fw: Cholesterol

 

 

> Hello. I'm Annie. The topic of cholesterol caught my attention,

> because mine was so high before I went vegan. Even as a vegetarian it

> was nearly 300.

> I also am a non-drinker/smoker and do not fit the typical profile for

> an " at risk " cholesterol. My doctor wrote a perscription for Baycor

> (sp?) and Lipitor (sp?), but I never filled it. I didn't want to live

> my life on pills if I could help it.

> My numbers didn't drop dramatically going vegan. From 300 to 270. But

> then I started excercising. That must have been key, because it

> dropped to 145 and stayed there. It's been two years, now. Cardio

> excercise was the turning point for me, even though I despise it! I

> much prefer stretching and yoga.

> Hope this was helpful. (?)

> ~Annie

>

>

>

>

>

> To send an email to -

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Jo,

Comfrey is also traditionally a good compost, prepare the same way, and it too reeks a bit.

 

The Valley Vegan......Jo Cwazy <heartwork wrote:

 

 

- Jo Cwazy

Saturday, May 28, 2005 10:03 PM

Re: Cholesterol

 

Hi Peter (VV)

Some families do have higher cholesterol for no known reason. I think the homocysteine is considered more important now. I Hope it all goes well.

 

This year I am growing more herbs, mint, chives, oregano, thyme, lemon balm, coriander, parsley, rocket, sorrel, rosemary etc. and tomatoes. That's about it.

 

Nettles - pick and put in a bucket. Pour a kettle of boiling water over them and leave for a couple of days. It will stink but is a really good plant food, totally vegan, totally safe, and works well.

 

Jo

 

-

peter hurd

Saturday, May 21, 2005 3:54 PM

Re: Cholesterol

 

Hi Jo, what do you know?

 

I have to visit the quak on Thursday to discus my cholestrol level as they said it was too high, but wont discuss it on the phone or give me any idea as to what the level is without tying up the GP for 10-15 minutes. Even though I have family history of heart problems, I feel informed enough to know enough about the subject to act on it on my own, unless medication is needed. I have been a vegan for 15 years , vegie 5 before that, am 5`10, and 140 pounds, dont smoke, dont drink ( to excess), so I am not your typical target for this type of problem. I would rather they sort out my constant back problems, but that they cannot figure out!

Well there I go, its just me, me, me, me, me isnt it!

Who is growing what in the garden at the moment? I have just germinated some herbs ( coriander/chives & basil ), so will be pricking out and potting up in a week or so, and my dwarf French beans are just poking up through the soil. I have just given my garden a good mulch of compost from my heap ready for some more flowers to go in when they are big enough to take on the slugs and snails.

Does anyone know of a vegan plant food ( seaweed based maybe?)

 

The Valley Vegan...........Jo Cwazy <heartwork wrote:

 

Hi Peter

 

With regard to the cholesterol, some is made in the liver - usually just the right amount as we need some cholesterol. This fact, of course, does not detract from the fact that we do need to be careful of the foods we eat so that we don't have too much of the wrong kind of cholesterol - hence why, if we were not vegan, and eating good quality margarine, we would need to be careful not to eat much butter or animal fat.

 

As you are vegan, your blood is likely to have a good profile, so you do not really have to make an effort to remember the ins and outs of cholesterol.

 

BBJoTo send an email to -

Peter H

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Hiya Annie,

Thanks for the reply, we seem to have a different yardstick over here, my measurement was 6.7, while you are talking in hundreds?!?!!? now my mind is well and truly boggled.

 

The Valley Vegan....... Annie <veganchicklol wrote:

Hello. I'm Annie. The topic of cholesterol caught my attention, because mine was so high before I went vegan. Even as a vegetarian it was nearly 300. I also am a non-drinker/smoker and do not fit the typical profile for an "at risk" cholesterol. My doctor wrote a perscription for Baycor (sp?) and Lipitor (sp?), but I never filled it. I didn't want to live my life on pills if I could help it. My numbers didn't drop dramatically going vegan. From 300 to 270. But then I started excercising. That must have been key, because it dropped to 145 and stayed there. It's been two years, now. Cardio excercise was the turning point for me, even though I despise it! I much prefer stretching and yoga.Hope this was helpful. (?)~Annie

[Guest guest]

What does your 6.7 refer to? Here the blood tests give you various numbers for various things and the 300 would be a total.

 

Lynda

 

-

peter hurd

Wednesday, June 01, 2005 2:42 AM

Re: Fw: Cholesterol

 

Hiya Annie,

Thanks for the reply, we seem to have a different yardstick over here, my measurement was 6.7, while you are talking in hundreds?!?!!? now my mind is well and truly boggled.

 

The Valley Vegan....... Annie <veganchicklol wrote:

Hello. I'm Annie. The topic of cholesterol caught my attention, because mine was so high before I went vegan. Even as a vegetarian it was nearly 300. I also am a non-drinker/smoker and do not fit the typical profile for an "at risk" cholesterol. My doctor wrote a perscription for Baycor (sp?) and Lipitor (sp?), but I never filled it. I didn't want to live my life on pills if I could help it. My numbers didn't drop dramatically going vegan. From 300 to 270. But then I started excercising. That must have been key, because it dropped to 145 and stayed there. It's been two years, now. Cardio excercise was the turning point for me, even though I despise it! I much prefer stretching and yoga.Hope this was helpful. (?)~Annie

[Guest guest]

A lipid profile is a simple number produced by adding together the

levels of high-density lipoproteins (HDL) and low-density

lipoproteins (LDL), the so-called " good " and " bad " forms of

cholesterol. However, researchers have now identified five

subclasses of HDL, four subclasses of LDL, and others that are

separated into classes. A lipid panel is a study of lipid proteins

in the blood profiling the Triglycerides, Total Cholesterol, LDL

Cholesterol, HDL Cholesterol, and HDL/Cholesterol Ratio. Since

those numbers add up into hundreds, I'm not sure how yours would be

6.7 .

 

 

 

, " Lynda " <lurine@s...> wrote:

> What does your 6.7 refer to? Here the blood tests give you

various numbers for various things and the 300 would be a total.

>

> Lynda

> -

> peter hurd

>

> Wednesday, June 01, 2005 2:42 AM

> Re: Fw: Cholesterol

>

>

> Hiya Annie,

> Thanks for the reply, we seem to have a different yardstick over

here, my measurement was 6.7, while you are talking in

hundreds?!?!!? now my mind is well and truly boggled.

>

> The Valley Vegan.......

> Annie <veganchicklol> wrote:

> Hello. I'm Annie. The topic of cholesterol caught my

attention,

> because mine was so high before I went vegan. Even as a

vegetarian it

> was nearly 300.

> I also am a non-drinker/smoker and do not fit the typical

profile for

> an " at risk " cholesterol. My doctor wrote a perscription for

Baycor

> (sp?) and Lipitor (sp?), but I never filled it. I didn't want

to live

> my life on pills if I could help it.

> My numbers didn't drop dramatically going vegan. From 300 to

270. But

> then I started excercising. That must have been key, because

it

> dropped to 145 and stayed there. It's been two years, now.

Cardio

> excercise was the turning point for me, even though I despise

it! I

> much prefer stretching and yoga.

> Hope this was helpful. (?)

> ~Annie

>

>

>

>

>

> To send an email to -

 

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Peter - I'll remember that. I also used alfalfa once - it seemed to work.

 

Jo

 

-

peter hurd

Wednesday, June 01, 2005 10:35 AM

Re: Fw: Cholesterol

 

Hi Jo,

Comfrey is also traditionally a good compost, prepare the same way, and it too reeks a bit.

 

The Valley Vegan......Jo Cwazy <heartwork wrote:

 

 

- Jo Cwazy

Saturday, May 28, 2005 10:03 PM

Re: Cholesterol

 

Hi Peter (VV)

Some families do have higher cholesterol for no known reason. I think the homocysteine is considered more important now. I Hope it all goes well.

 

This year I am growing more herbs, mint, chives, oregano, thyme, lemon balm, coriander, parsley, rocket, sorrel, rosemary etc. and tomatoes. That's about it.

 

Nettles - pick and put in a bucket. Pour a kettle of boiling water over them and leave for a couple of days. It will stink but is a really good plant food, totally vegan, totally safe, and works well.

 

Jo

 

-

peter hurd

Saturday, May 21, 2005 3:54 PM

Re: Cholesterol

 

Hi Jo, what do you know?

 

I have to visit the quak on Thursday to discus my cholestrol level as they said it was too high, but wont discuss it on the phone or give me any idea as to what the level is without tying up the GP for 10-15 minutes. Even though I have family history of heart problems, I feel informed enough to know enough about the subject to act on it on my own, unless medication is needed. I have been a vegan for 15 years , vegie 5 before that, am 5`10, and 140 pounds, dont smoke, dont drink ( to excess), so I am not your typical target for this type of problem. I would rather they sort out my constant back problems, but that they cannot figure out!

Well there I go, its just me, me, me, me, me isnt it!

Who is growing what in the garden at the moment? I have just germinated some herbs ( coriander/chives & basil ), so will be pricking out and potting up in a week or so, and my dwarf French beans are just poking up through the soil. I have just given my garden a good mulch of compost from my heap ready for some more flowers to go in when they are big enough to take on the slugs and snails.

Does anyone know of a vegan plant food ( seaweed based maybe?)

 

The Valley Vegan...........Jo Cwazy <heartwork wrote:

 

Hi Peter

 

With regard to the cholesterol, some is made in the liver - usually just the right amount as we need some cholesterol. This fact, of course, does not detract from the fact that we do need to be careful of the foods we eat so that we don't have too much of the wrong kind of cholesterol - hence why, if we were not vegan, and eating good quality margarine, we would need to be careful not to eat much butter or animal fat.

 

As you are vegan, your blood is likely to have a good profile, so you do not really have to make an effort to remember the ins and outs of cholesterol.

 

BBJoTo send an email to -

Peter H

 

 

 

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That's right - mine was 3 point something.

 

Jo

 

-

peter hurd

Wednesday, June 01, 2005 10:42 AM

Re: Fw: Cholesterol

 

Hiya Annie,

Thanks for the reply, we seem to have a different yardstick over here, my measurement was 6.7, while you are talking in hundreds?!?!!? now my mind is well and truly boggled.

 

The Valley Vegan....... Annie <veganchicklol wrote:

Hello. I'm Annie. The topic of cholesterol caught my attention, because mine was so high before I went vegan. Even as a vegetarian it was nearly 300. I also am a non-drinker/smoker and do not fit the typical profile for an "at risk" cholesterol. My doctor wrote a perscription for Baycor (sp?) and Lipitor (sp?), but I never filled it. I didn't want to live my life on pills if I could help it. My numbers didn't drop dramatically going vegan. From 300 to 270. But then I started excercising. That must have been key, because it dropped to 145 and stayed there. It's been two years, now. Cardio excercise was the turning point for me, even though I despise it! I much prefer stretching and yoga.Hope this was helpful. (?)~Annie

[Guest guest]

It must be done differently here.

 

Jo

 

-

" Annie " <veganchicklol

 

Wednesday, June 01, 2005 8:50 PM

Re: Fw: Cholesterol

 

 

> A lipid profile is a simple number produced by adding together the

> levels of high-density lipoproteins (HDL) and low-density

> lipoproteins (LDL), the so-called " good " and " bad " forms of

> cholesterol. However, researchers have now identified five

> subclasses of HDL, four subclasses of LDL, and others that are

> separated into classes. A lipid panel is a study of lipid proteins

> in the blood profiling the Triglycerides, Total Cholesterol, LDL

> Cholesterol, HDL Cholesterol, and HDL/Cholesterol Ratio. Since

> those numbers add up into hundreds, I'm not sure how yours would be

> 6.7 .

>

>

>

> , " Lynda " <lurine@s...> wrote:

> > What does your 6.7 refer to? Here the blood tests give you

> various numbers for various things and the 300 would be a total.

> >

> > Lynda

> > -

> > peter hurd

> >

> > Wednesday, June 01, 2005 2:42 AM

> > Re: Fw: Cholesterol

> >

> >

> > Hiya Annie,

> > Thanks for the reply, we seem to have a different yardstick over

> here, my measurement was 6.7, while you are talking in

> hundreds?!?!!? now my mind is well and truly boggled.

> >

> > The Valley Vegan.......

> > Annie <veganchicklol> wrote:

> > Hello. I'm Annie. The topic of cholesterol caught my

> attention,

> > because mine was so high before I went vegan. Even as a

> vegetarian it

> > was nearly 300.

> > I also am a non-drinker/smoker and do not fit the typical

> profile for

> > an " at risk " cholesterol. My doctor wrote a perscription for

> Baycor

> > (sp?) and Lipitor (sp?), but I never filled it. I didn't want

> to live

> > my life on pills if I could help it.

> > My numbers didn't drop dramatically going vegan. From 300 to

> 270. But

> > then I started excercising. That must have been key, because

> it

> > dropped to 145 and stayed there. It's been two years, now.

> Cardio

> > excercise was the turning point for me, even though I despise

> it! I

> > much prefer stretching and yoga.

> > Hope this was helpful. (?)

> > ~Annie

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > To send an email to -

>

> >