Guest guest Report post Posted May 2, 2004 I appreciate your mention of phytic acid (I love the details!) I found this to be interesting: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/CGI/wa.exe?A2=ind9706 & L=paleodiet & P=850 (granted, it comes from the " paleo " folks, but there is some common graound, with them, I think.) On Sun, 2 May 2004, ms4runr2 wrote: > All nuts should be soaked. If you want to eat them dry, soak them > first, then dehydrate them. THEN, eat them. Nuts should not be eaten > unsoaked. We do not digest them well and they have a acid coating- > phytic acid-- that acts as a inhibitor towards particular nutrient > absorption. > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 19, 2006 Soaking seeds and nuts removes the enzyme inhibitors they contain, thereby activating a food's full nutrituional potential. (Dr Cousens: Rainbow Green Live Food Cuisine, pg 157) Digestion also becomes easier. lala dennis garrett <with_favas_bean wrote: is it important to soak nuts before using them? Dennis Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 14, 2006 You are welcome, they do have a wonderful selection. Tammy > Thank you! I went to their website, its the next best thing to winning > the lottery!! >   >  Kindest Regards, >  Leah > > paddlerwoman wrote: >  Sun organic farms is a good source for nuts and seeds. >           > > Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for > just 2¢/min with Messenger with Voice. > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 9, 2006 I realize that it seems unfair to put upon those without these allergies. But, I don't think many of us truly understand the most serious effects. Yes, diarrhea from salmonella or e.coli is terrible and rarely can be life threatening. But most people survive exposure without any symptons at all. Except for those rare cases which require hospitalization, life becomes normal very quickly. However, it never becomes " normal " for the child that dies. Death is permanent. The school system protects all of our children as best as it can. There are protocols in place for kidnapping, pedophiles, safe school buses and so on. They aren't perfect, but it is a start. In the US, each child is guaranteed a free public education - you can go to homeschool sites to get the nitty gritty interpretation of the laws. And the issue is getting bigger - more people are having life- threatening reactions to pb and other allergens. I also wonder how it will be handled in the future on a large scale. In my nephew's small school, all lunches were brought from home and given directly to the teacher. There was a list of banned foods and only prepackaged foods were allowed. I do think this is a legitimate concern for veg*ns or anyone following a spiritual diet. We do need to stay involved so that our children's rights to eat non allergenic foods at school aren't compromised. As far as eating pb at home and the child bringing it to school on his hands: First, this goes to the responsibility of parents to teach hygiene, etc to their children. Please don't flame me for thinking you are not - I couldn't possibly have any idea. Second, the faculty does look for this if there is an affected child in their school. In fact, have you ever wondered why teachers like to put those silly stamps on kids every day? It allows them to see which kid is getting a bath on a regular basis and which isn't. That way, they know when to call social services for negligence. (This is what my aunt was required to do.) Separating an affected child from those eating the offending allergen will not prevent a death if the child reacts to airborne molecules. The type of air system that would need to be installed in a school to control this would be cost prohibitive. I need to be brief as dd is waking and I have difficulty typing with a broken arm. I hope nothing in my post is taken as being inflammatory to one person. And for full disclosure, we now have a child with egg and pb allergies, though not considred life threatening. It is only now that my sister has changed her opinion on this issue. Before she was all about her non affected child's rights being violated because he had to accomodate somone else's allergy. Carrol , " Madeline White " <madeline_killian wrote: > > Here in Ontario, Canada my son has a child with a severe peanut allergy in > his Grade 1 class. Same last year in Kindergarden. The school does not claim > to be peanut-free (for liability reasons, I believe) but we recieve a letter > to sign every year regarding not sending peanuts to school. > > For me it is a great inconvenience as a vegetarian but one I can deal with > if it means life or death to another child. However, I agree with the person > who wrote that there is a difference between life-threatening and mild > allergies. Also, I might not be so accomodating if it were an allergy that > required the child to actually ingest the food rather than simply smell it. > > It is becoming a bigger issue though as people develop life- threatening > allergies to dairy, soy, nuts, eggs, etc. As a parent and a teacher I wonder > how we will cope with this in the future? No more eating at school. > Mandatory school lunches? > > > >robin koloms <rkoloms > > > > > >Re: Re: introduction > >Mon, 9 Oct 2006 04:47:38 -0700 (PDT) > > > >Cashew butter is my favorite, unfortunately nuts are a major migraine > >trigger for me. > > > >Kadee M <abbey_road3012 wrote: I got mine at Trader Joe's. > >Whole Foods has it too, I think. It's really good, my daughter and I like > >it even better than peanut butter. Next we're going to try almond butter. > > > >Kadee Sedtal > > > >Danielle wrote: I think I burned my son out on too much peanut butter in > >his pre school and kindergarten lunches, and now he refuses to eat peanut > >butter! One of you mentioned sunflower seed butter, he loves sunflower > >seeds and I think especially if he saw it made (like they do with peanut > >butter in Chamberlains natural food store here), he may try that. Can you > >please tell me where you buy sunflower seed butter? > > > >Thanks! > >Danielle in Florida > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 9, 2006 I guess my problem in this case in our school is that no one has ever shown proof regarding this allergy. If the child is so allergic that no can eat peanuts for X hours before seeing him/her, how does this child ever go out in public, since peanut buter is not banned throughout the township/county? Does she ever go to playgrounds, kiddie arcades or other places that children go for parties and recreation? Since it is only her grade that is not allowed to bring in peanuts, how does she walk past the lunches of other grades (stored in the hall) and not have an anaphylactic reaction? In a school with 650 students, don't tell me no one eats peanut butter. Why do children have to sanitize their hands with alcohol gel, which co-incidentally does not remove peanut essence, before entering the art and music rooms, library and gym on days that this child might enter them? I can't stand the hand sanitizer aspect of the deal - that's what kills me. It doesn't do anything, so why should the children have to use it? Teach them to wash their hands! My son has a mild immune disorder, and I can't risk having him exposed to a superbug created by this anti-bacterial junk. He is anaphylactically allergic to many antibiotics, and I fight to not have him exposed to any more. Noreen On Behalf Of Madeline White Monday, October 09, 2006 9:42 AM nuts Here in Ontario, Canada my son has a child with a severe peanut allergy in his Grade 1 class. Same last year in Kindergarden. The school does not claim to be peanut-free (for liability reasons, I believe) but we recieve a letter to sign every year regarding not sending peanuts to school. For me it is a great inconvenience as a vegetarian but one I can deal with if it means life or death to another child. However, I agree with the person who wrote that there is a difference between life-threatening and mild allergies. Also, I might not be so accomodating if it were an allergy that required the child to actually ingest the food rather than simply smell it. It is becoming a bigger issue though as people develop life-threatening allergies to dairy, soy, nuts, eggs, etc. As a parent and a teacher I wonder how we will cope with this in the future? No more eating at school. Mandatory school lunches? >robin koloms <rkoloms > > >Re: Re: introduction >Mon, 9 Oct 2006 04:47:38 -0700 (PDT) > >Cashew butter is my favorite, unfortunately nuts are a major migraine >trigger for me. > >Kadee M <abbey_road3012 wrote: I got mine at Trader Joe's. >Whole Foods has it too, I think. It's really good, my daughter and I like >it even better than peanut butter. Next we're going to try almond butter. > >Kadee Sedtal > >Danielle wrote: I think I burned my son out on too much peanut butter in >his pre school and kindergarten lunches, and now he refuses to eat peanut >butter! One of you mentioned sunflower seed butter, he loves sunflower >seeds and I think especially if he saw it made (like they do with peanut >butter in Chamberlains natural food store here), he may try that. Can you >please tell me where you buy sunflower seed butter? > >Thanks! >Danielle in Florida > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 10, 2006 Different schools, maybe? Variety in a child'd diet is absolutely essential! I can't just go sending my kids to school with the same few things every day or they'll start swapping food with meat-eating kids just for some variety. And just because a child takes a bath every day doesn't mean they didn't get something on their hands that morning. And how about my son, who has eczema? Having a bath every day, even more than two or three times a week, would drive him nuts (pun!). If a special air system is required to keep allergic children safe, isn't that far more important than a nice football stadium for the district or a big salary for the superintendent? This is just one of those things where there's just really no good solution, isn't it? I hate it that there are children, or anyone, out there who are that horribly allergic to things. I'm worried enough about sending my kids anywhere, fearing there might be meat in the house and get a " death germ " on them. I cannot imagine worrying they might die if they inhaled a peanut... fume. There should be colonies. A vegetarian colony, an peanut allergy colony, and others. Children could go to school and their parents could do something other than lurk outside sweating and pacing and crying (which I do expect to do for at least the first few years). Kadee Sedtal rtillmansmail <rtillmansmail wrote: I realize that it seems unfair to put upon those without these allergies. But, I don't think many of us truly understand the most serious effects. Yes, diarrhea from salmonella or e.coli is terrible and rarely can be life threatening. But most people survive exposure without any symptons at all. Except for those rare cases which require hospitalization, life becomes normal very quickly. However, it never becomes " normal " for the child that dies. Death is permanent. The school system protects all of our children as best as it can. There are protocols in place for kidnapping, pedophiles, safe school buses and so on. They aren't perfect, but it is a start. In the US, each child is guaranteed a free public education - you can go to homeschool sites to get the nitty gritty interpretation of the laws. And the issue is getting bigger - more people are having life- threatening reactions to pb and other allergens. I also wonder how it will be handled in the future on a large scale. In my nephew's small school, all lunches were brought from home and given directly to the teacher. There was a list of banned foods and only prepackaged foods were allowed. I do think this is a legitimate concern for veg*ns or anyone following a spiritual diet. We do need to stay involved so that our children's rights to eat non allergenic foods at school aren't compromised. As far as eating pb at home and the child bringing it to school on his hands: First, this goes to the responsibility of parents to teach hygiene, etc to their children. Please don't flame me for thinking you are not - I couldn't possibly have any idea. Second, the faculty does look for this if there is an affected child in their school. In fact, have you ever wondered why teachers like to put those silly stamps on kids every day? It allows them to see which kid is getting a bath on a regular basis and which isn't. That way, they know when to call social services for negligence. (This is what my aunt was required to do.) Separating an affected child from those eating the offending allergen will not prevent a death if the child reacts to airborne molecules. The type of air system that would need to be installed in a school to control this would be cost prohibitive. I need to be brief as dd is waking and I have difficulty typing with a broken arm. I hope nothing in my post is taken as being inflammatory to one person. And for full disclosure, we now have a child with egg and pb allergies, though not considred life threatening. It is only now that my sister has changed her opinion on this issue. Before she was all about her non affected child's rights being violated because he had to accomodate somone else's allergy. Carrol , " Madeline White " <madeline_killian wrote: > > Here in Ontario, Canada my son has a child with a severe peanut allergy in > his Grade 1 class. Same last year in Kindergarden. The school does not claim > to be peanut-free (for liability reasons, I believe) but we recieve a letter > to sign every year regarding not sending peanuts to school. > > For me it is a great inconvenience as a vegetarian but one I can deal with > if it means life or death to another child. However, I agree with the person > who wrote that there is a difference between life-threatening and mild > allergies. Also, I might not be so accomodating if it were an allergy that > required the child to actually ingest the food rather than simply smell it. > > It is becoming a bigger issue though as people develop life- threatening > allergies to dairy, soy, nuts, eggs, etc. As a parent and a teacher I wonder > how we will cope with this in the future? No more eating at school. > Mandatory school lunches? > > > >robin koloms <rkoloms > > > > > >Re: Re: introduction > >Mon, 9 Oct 2006 04:47:38 -0700 (PDT) > > > >Cashew butter is my favorite, unfortunately nuts are a major migraine > >trigger for me. > > > >Kadee M <abbey_road3012 wrote: I got mine at Trader Joe's. > >Whole Foods has it too, I think. It's really good, my daughter and I like > >it even better than peanut butter. Next we're going to try almond butter. > > > >Kadee Sedtal > > > >Danielle wrote: I think I burned my son out on too much peanut butter in > >his pre school and kindergarten lunches, and now he refuses to eat peanut > >butter! One of you mentioned sunflower seed butter, he loves sunflower > >seeds and I think especially if he saw it made (like they do with peanut > >butter in Chamberlains natural food store here), he may try that. Can you > >please tell me where you buy sunflower seed butter? > > > >Thanks! > >Danielle in Florida > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 10, 2006 My problem right now is with consistency. If you're forcing other children to use hand sanitizer to walk into a classroom, how can you possibly go to a play place or anywhere else for that matter without thoroughly sanitizing it and everyone who might be there. By the way, I am a teacher and we are counseled to look for signs of abuse, but I've never heard of putting a stamp on children's hands and checking for it to see if children are being bathed. Noreen .. On Behalf Of rtillmansmail Monday, October 09, 2006 5:45 PM Re: nuts I realize that it seems unfair to put upon those without these allergies. But, I don't think many of us truly understand the most serious effects. Yes, diarrhea from salmonella or e.coli is terrible and rarely can be life threatening. But most people survive exposure without any symptons at all. Except for those rare cases which require hospitalization, life becomes normal very quickly. However, it never becomes " normal " for the child that dies. Death is permanent. The school system protects all of our children as best as it can. There are protocols in place for kidnapping, pedophiles, safe school buses and so on. They aren't perfect, but it is a start. In the US, each child is guaranteed a free public education - you can go to homeschool sites to get the nitty gritty interpretation of the laws. And the issue is getting bigger - more people are having life- threatening reactions to pb and other allergens. I also wonder how it will be handled in the future on a large scale. In my nephew's small school, all lunches were brought from home and given directly to the teacher. There was a list of banned foods and only prepackaged foods were allowed. I do think this is a legitimate concern for veg*ns or anyone following a spiritual diet. We do need to stay involved so that our children's rights to eat non allergenic foods at school aren't compromised. As far as eating pb at home and the child bringing it to school on his hands: First, this goes to the responsibility of parents to teach hygiene, etc to their children. Please don't flame me for thinking you are not - I couldn't possibly have any idea. Second, the faculty does look for this if there is an affected child in their school. In fact, have you ever wondered why teachers like to put those silly stamps on kids every day? It allows them to see which kid is getting a bath on a regular basis and which isn't. That way, they know when to call social services for negligence. (This is what my aunt was required to do.) Separating an affected child from those eating the offending allergen will not prevent a death if the child reacts to airborne molecules. The type of air system that would need to be installed in a school to control this would be cost prohibitive. I need to be brief as dd is waking and I have difficulty typing with a broken arm. I hope nothing in my post is taken as being inflammatory to one person. And for full disclosure, we now have a child with egg and pb allergies, though not considred life threatening. It is only now that my sister has changed her opinion on this issue. Before she was all about her non affected child's rights being violated because he had to accomodate somone else's allergy. Carrol , " Madeline White " <madeline_killian wrote: > > Here in Ontario, Canada my son has a child with a severe peanut allergy in > his Grade 1 class. Same last year in Kindergarden. The school does not claim > to be peanut-free (for liability reasons, I believe) but we recieve a letter > to sign every year regarding not sending peanuts to school. > > For me it is a great inconvenience as a vegetarian but one I can deal with > if it means life or death to another child. However, I agree with the person > who wrote that there is a difference between life-threatening and mild > allergies. Also, I might not be so accomodating if it were an allergy that > required the child to actually ingest the food rather than simply smell it. > > It is becoming a bigger issue though as people develop life- threatening > allergies to dairy, soy, nuts, eggs, etc. As a parent and a teacher I wonder > how we will cope with this in the future? No more eating at school. > Mandatory school lunches? > > > >robin koloms <rkoloms > > > > > >Re: Re: introduction > >Mon, 9 Oct 2006 04:47:38 -0700 (PDT) > > > >Cashew butter is my favorite, unfortunately nuts are a major migraine > >trigger for me. > > > >Kadee M <abbey_road3012 wrote: I got mine at Trader Joe's. > >Whole Foods has it too, I think. It's really good, my daughter and I like > >it even better than peanut butter. Next we're going to try almond butter. > > > >Kadee Sedtal > > > >Danielle wrote: I think I burned my son out on too much peanut butter in > >his pre school and kindergarten lunches, and now he refuses to eat peanut > >butter! One of you mentioned sunflower seed butter, he loves sunflower > >seeds and I think especially if he saw it made (like they do with peanut > >butter in Chamberlains natural food store here), he may try that. Can you > >please tell me where you buy sunflower seed butter? > > > >Thanks! > >Danielle in Florida > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 10, 2006 lol, i gotta say, going overboard on all things antibacterial, like hand sanitizer, is really just a great way to spread bacteria and make it impervious to treatment. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 10, 2006 My child gets a stamp on her hand when they go to the library (once a week) or to computer lab (also once a week) I think it helps them to keep up with the children. And who is supposed to be there and who isn't. I imagine if a stamp from a monday trip to the library was still there several days later that might be cause for alarm. My daughter's stamps normally come off after a couple of good handwashings. Renee Noreen Davisson <davisson wrote: My problem right now is with consistency. If you're forcing other children to use hand sanitizer to walk into a classroom, how can you possibly go to a play place or anywhere else for that matter without thoroughly sanitizing it and everyone who might be there. By the way, I am a teacher and we are counseled to look for signs of abuse, but I've never heard of putting a stamp on children's hands and checking for it to see if children are being bathed. Noreen .. On Behalf Of rtillmansmail Monday, October 09, 2006 5:45 PM Re: nuts I realize that it seems unfair to put upon those without these allergies. But, I don't think many of us truly understand the most serious effects. Yes, diarrhea from salmonella or e.coli is terrible and rarely can be life threatening. But most people survive exposure without any symptons at all. Except for those rare cases which require hospitalization, life becomes normal very quickly. However, it never becomes " normal " for the child that dies. Death is permanent. The school system protects all of our children as best as it can. There are protocols in place for kidnapping, pedophiles, safe school buses and so on. They aren't perfect, but it is a start. In the US, each child is guaranteed a free public education - you can go to homeschool sites to get the nitty gritty interpretation of the laws. And the issue is getting bigger - more people are having life- threatening reactions to pb and other allergens. I also wonder how it will be handled in the future on a large scale. In my nephew's small school, all lunches were brought from home and given directly to the teacher. There was a list of banned foods and only prepackaged foods were allowed. I do think this is a legitimate concern for veg*ns or anyone following a spiritual diet. We do need to stay involved so that our children's rights to eat non allergenic foods at school aren't compromised. As far as eating pb at home and the child bringing it to school on his hands: First, this goes to the responsibility of parents to teach hygiene, etc to their children. Please don't flame me for thinking you are not - I couldn't possibly have any idea. Second, the faculty does look for this if there is an affected child in their school. In fact, have you ever wondered why teachers like to put those silly stamps on kids every day? It allows them to see which kid is getting a bath on a regular basis and which isn't. That way, they know when to call social services for negligence. (This is what my aunt was required to do.) Separating an affected child from those eating the offending allergen will not prevent a death if the child reacts to airborne molecules. The type of air system that would need to be installed in a school to control this would be cost prohibitive. I need to be brief as dd is waking and I have difficulty typing with a broken arm. I hope nothing in my post is taken as being inflammatory to one person. And for full disclosure, we now have a child with egg and pb allergies, though not considred life threatening. It is only now that my sister has changed her opinion on this issue. Before she was all about her non affected child's rights being violated because he had to accomodate somone else's allergy. Carrol , " Madeline White " <madeline_killian wrote: > > Here in Ontario, Canada my son has a child with a severe peanut allergy in > his Grade 1 class. Same last year in Kindergarden. The school does not claim > to be peanut-free (for liability reasons, I believe) but we recieve a letter > to sign every year regarding not sending peanuts to school. > > For me it is a great inconvenience as a vegetarian but one I can deal with > if it means life or death to another child. However, I agree with the person > who wrote that there is a difference between life-threatening and mild > allergies. Also, I might not be so accomodating if it were an allergy that > required the child to actually ingest the food rather than simply smell it. > > It is becoming a bigger issue though as people develop life- threatening > allergies to dairy, soy, nuts, eggs, etc. As a parent and a teacher I wonder > how we will cope with this in the future? No more eating at school. > Mandatory school lunches? > > > >robin koloms <rkoloms > > > > > >Re: Re: introduction > >Mon, 9 Oct 2006 04:47:38 -0700 (PDT) > > > >Cashew butter is my favorite, unfortunately nuts are a major migraine > >trigger for me. > > > >Kadee M <abbey_road3012 wrote: I got mine at Trader Joe's. > >Whole Foods has it too, I think. It's really good, my daughter and I like > >it even better than peanut butter. Next we're going to try almond butter. > > > >Kadee Sedtal > > > >Danielle wrote: I think I burned my son out on too much peanut butter in > >his pre school and kindergarten lunches, and now he refuses to eat peanut > >butter! One of you mentioned sunflower seed butter, he loves sunflower > >seeds and I think especially if he saw it made (like they do with peanut > >butter in Chamberlains natural food store here), he may try that. Can you > >please tell me where you buy sunflower seed butter? > > > >Thanks! > >Danielle in Florida > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 10, 2006 Hi there I am not sure if and how useful this is for your son’s allergies but here is an article on Apple cider vinegar. I used it for my sons cold (allergies, he had runny nose and watery eyes thoughout spring) last year and this year (touch wood) his spring was cold free. Now I use is once in a while when he gets cold, they seem real effect for the same as well. They claim that it does help builds good immune system. http://www.earthclinic.com/Remedies/acvinegar.html (look for immune in this article and there is a paragraph that explains using it with baking soda) Now I don’t know if this is really effective or not but just thought I’d direct you towards that, you may do some more research on this and use it accordingly) http://www.anyvitamins.com/apple-cider-vinegar-info.htm Good luck Shree wrote: 1a. Re: nuts Posted by: " Noreen Davisson " davisson russellsvs Mon Oct 9, 2006 6:12 pm (PDT) I guess my problem in this case in our school is that no one has ever shown proof regarding this allergy. If the child is so allergic that no can eat peanuts for X hours before seeing him/her, how does this child ever go out in public, since peanut buter is not banned throughout the township/county? Does she ever go to playgrounds, kiddie arcades or other places that children go for parties and recreation? Since it is only her grade that is not allowed to bring in peanuts, how does she walk past the lunches of other grades (stored in the hall) and not have an anaphylactic reaction? In a school with 650 students, don't tell me no one eats peanut butter. Why do children have to sanitize their hands with alcohol gel, which co-incidentally does not remove peanut essence, before entering the art and music rooms, library and gym on days that this child might enter them? I can't stand the hand sanitizer aspect of the deal - that's what kills me. It doesn't do anything, so why should the children have to use it? Teach them to wash their hands! My son has a mild immune disorder, and I can't risk having him exposed to a superbug created by this anti-bacterial junk. He is anaphylactically allergic to many antibiotics, and I fight to not have him exposed to any more. Noreen How low will we go? Check out Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 10, 2006 >> " I guess my problem in this case in our school is that no one has ever shown proof regarding this allergy. Why do children have to sanitize their hands with alcohol gel, which co-incidentally does not remove peanut essence, before entering the art and music rooms, library and gym on days that this child might enter them? I can't stand the hand sanitizer aspect of the deal - that's what kills me. It doesn't do anything, so why should the children have to use it? Teach them to wash their hands! My son has a mild immune disorder, and I can't risk having him exposed to a superbug created by this anti-bacterial junk. He is anaphylactically allergic to many antibiotics, and I fight to not have him exposed to any more. " I definitely think you have a very valid point. I may have missed the first part of this thread - do you know which child, or is identity being kept secret so someone can't purposely harm said child? If ID is known and since ban isn't school district wide, some proof should be on file. It doesn't have to be a HIPPA protected medical record, just a statement signed by a school official that s/he did the proper follow up (that the parent released medical records to the school and allergy was confirmed). If ID is being kept secret, the form can have the child's name cut out. It doesn't seem difficult but officials can bind the simplest things in red tape. By all means, if you haven't already, I would take a signed statement from your DR. re: child's immune disorder, antibiotic reactions and no alcohol sanitizer. If Dr. doesn't agree with sanitizer, just take statement and volumes of literature (ex. CDC) re: ill effects of sanitizers. Insist your child not use them. Your child has every right to be protected as the nut allergy child. I think you can find more info from the American with Disabilitites Act. And you should take info you have re: sanitizer not removing oil from hands. That should indirectly protect your child by helping the other, while you are talking to your Dr., etc. Of course, you may have already done all this. I wish you luck. >> " If the child is so allergic that no can eat peanuts for X hours before seeing him/her, how does this child ever go out " I don't personally know anyone this bad but from my medical training I know it can exist. I have seen daytime talk shows in which parents said their child goes nowhere but to school or homes of family that are nut-free. Carrol PS The Journal of Allergy and Clinical Immunology published a study conducted by John Hopkins showing plain water removed twice as much of peanut butter from hands than the sanitizer, Just in case you didn't already have this article. I hate this stuff too. Medically we are taught all about how bad and/or misleading it is. Yet, my pede now uses it in her office instead of washing hands. I just don't understand why people fall for advertising. My dd is not in school but I won't allow her to use these sanitizers at gym class, etc. We go to the restroom and WASH her hands. What a concept! - -- In , Noreen Davisson <davisson wrote: > > I guess my problem in this case in our school is that no one has ever shown > proof regarding this allergy. If the child is so allergic that no can eat > peanuts for X hours before seeing him/her, how does this child ever go out > in public, since peanut buter is not banned throughout the township/county? > Does she ever go to playgrounds, kiddie arcades or other places that > children go for parties and recreation? Since it is only her grade that is > not allowed to bring in peanuts, how does she walk past the lunches of other > grades (stored in the hall) and not have an anaphylactic reaction? In a > school with 650 students, don't tell me no one eats peanut butter. Why do > children have to sanitize their hands with alcohol gel, which > co-incidentally does not remove peanut essence, before entering the art and > music rooms, library and gym on days that this child might enter them? I > can't stand the hand sanitizer aspect of the deal - that's what kills me. > It doesn't do anything, so why should the children have to use it? Teach > them to wash their hands! My son has a mild immune disorder, and I can't > risk having him exposed to a superbug created by this anti- bacterial junk. > He is anaphylactically allergic to many antibiotics, and I fight to not have > him exposed to any more. > > Noreen > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 10, 2006 I hadn't read this... ACV is great stuff anyway, lots of " goodies " in it, plus it's a good kitchen cleaner. Kadee Sedtal Shreelakshmi Krishnamurthi <shreelak wrote: Hi there I am not sure if and how useful this is for your son’s allergies but here is an article on Apple cider vinegar. I used it for my sons cold (allergies, he had runny nose and watery eyes thoughout spring) last year and this year (touch wood) his spring was cold free. Now I use is once in a while when he gets cold, they seem real effect for the same as well. They claim that it does help builds good immune system. http://www.earthclinic.com/Remedies/acvinegar.html (look for immune in this article and there is a paragraph that explains using it with baking soda) Now I don’t know if this is really effective or not but just thought I’d direct you towards that, you may do some more research on this and use it accordingly) http://www.anyvitamins.com/apple-cider-vinegar-info.htm Good luck Shree wrote: 1a. Re: nuts Posted by: " Noreen Davisson " davisson russellsvs Mon Oct 9, 2006 6:12 pm (PDT) I guess my problem in this case in our school is that no one has ever shown proof regarding this allergy. If the child is so allergic that no can eat peanuts for X hours before seeing him/her, how does this child ever go out in public, since peanut buter is not banned throughout the township/county? Does she ever go to playgrounds, kiddie arcades or other places that children go for parties and recreation? Since it is only her grade that is not allowed to bring in peanuts, how does she walk past the lunches of other grades (stored in the hall) and not have an anaphylactic reaction? In a school with 650 students, don't tell me no one eats peanut butter. Why do children have to sanitize their hands with alcohol gel, which co-incidentally does not remove peanut essence, before entering the art and music rooms, library and gym on days that this child might enter them? I can't stand the hand sanitizer aspect of the deal - that's what kills me. It doesn't do anything, so why should the children have to use it? Teach them to wash their hands! My son has a mild immune disorder, and I can't risk having him exposed to a superbug created by this anti-bacterial junk. He is anaphylactically allergic to many antibiotics, and I fight to not have him exposed to any more. Noreen How low will we go? Check out Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 10, 2006 Thanks for the support. Neither of my children is allowed to use sanitizer. I have supplied wipes for each of them to use on days that they might have special classes in common with this child. I know who she is because of previous volunteer work in the building. Unfortunately, Mommy has threatened lawsuit, so the district runs scared. In a town where every third SAHM is a lawyer, it's not hard to find one that will " take a case " . My daughter's reaction to sanitizer occurred on a gym day, when her classmates used sanitizer and then they were bowling. Other children touched the ball and pins with freshly sanitized hands, and Kate broke out in hives on her hands and face. I've spent eons at school board meetings and have discussed the sanitizer issue with the safety committee chairman. He's gotten tons of info, including the studies from the Journal of Allergy and Clinical Immunology. It's just an uphill battle and it peeves me. My ped loves me because I will fight against antibiotics unless I know they're necessary. I educate the nurses and nurse practitioners. We've been through strep and Lyme disease recently, and those I will medicate. I will give Rich pain relief medication for ear infections, unless we have fluid and can culture it. I also fight for antibiotic ear drops instead of oral antibiotics if he needs an antibiotic. Why poison his whole system if the infection is in his ear? Noreen On Behalf Of rtillmansmail Tuesday, October 10, 2006 12:24 PM Re: nuts >> " I guess my problem in this case in our school is that no one has ever shown proof regarding this allergy. Why do children have to sanitize their hands with alcohol gel, which co-incidentally does not remove peanut essence, before entering the art and music rooms, library and gym on days that this child might enter them? I can't stand the hand sanitizer aspect of the deal - that's what kills me. It doesn't do anything, so why should the children have to use it? Teach them to wash their hands! My son has a mild immune disorder, and I can't risk having him exposed to a superbug created by this anti-bacterial junk. He is anaphylactically allergic to many antibiotics, and I fight to not have him exposed to any more. " I definitely think you have a very valid point. I may have missed the first part of this thread - do you know which child, or is identity being kept secret so someone can't purposely harm said child? If ID is known and since ban isn't school district wide, some proof should be on file. It doesn't have to be a HIPPA protected medical record, just a statement signed by a school official that s/he did the proper follow up (that the parent released medical records to the school and allergy was confirmed). If ID is being kept secret, the form can have the child's name cut out. It doesn't seem difficult but officials can bind the simplest things in red tape. By all means, if you haven't already, I would take a signed statement from your DR. re: child's immune disorder, antibiotic reactions and no alcohol sanitizer. If Dr. doesn't agree with sanitizer, just take statement and volumes of literature (ex. CDC) re: ill effects of sanitizers. Insist your child not use them. Your child has every right to be protected as the nut allergy child. I think you can find more info from the American with Disabilitites Act. And you should take info you have re: sanitizer not removing oil from hands. That should indirectly protect your child by helping the other, while you are talking to your Dr., etc. Of course, you may have already done all this. I wish you luck. >> " If the child is so allergic that no can eat peanuts for X hours before seeing him/her, how does this child ever go out " I don't personally know anyone this bad but from my medical training I know it can exist. I have seen daytime talk shows in which parents said their child goes nowhere but to school or homes of family that are nut-free. Carrol PS The Journal of Allergy and Clinical Immunology published a study conducted by John Hopkins showing plain water removed twice as much of peanut butter from hands than the sanitizer, Just in case you didn't already have this article. I hate this stuff too. Medically we are taught all about how bad and/or misleading it is. Yet, my pede now uses it in her office instead of washing hands. I just don't understand why people fall for advertising. My dd is not in school but I won't allow her to use these sanitizers at gym class, etc. We go to the restroom and WASH her hands. What a concept! - -- In , Noreen Davisson <davisson wrote: > > I guess my problem in this case in our school is that no one has ever shown > proof regarding this allergy. If the child is so allergic that no can eat > peanuts for X hours before seeing him/her, how does this child ever go out > in public, since peanut buter is not banned throughout the township/county? > Does she ever go to playgrounds, kiddie arcades or other places that > children go for parties and recreation? Since it is only her grade that is > not allowed to bring in peanuts, how does she walk past the lunches of other > grades (stored in the hall) and not have an anaphylactic reaction? In a > school with 650 students, don't tell me no one eats peanut butter. Why do > children have to sanitize their hands with alcohol gel, which > co-incidentally does not remove peanut essence, before entering the art and > music rooms, library and gym on days that this child might enter them? I > can't stand the hand sanitizer aspect of the deal - that's what kills me. > It doesn't do anything, so why should the children have to use it? Teach > them to wash their hands! My son has a mild immune disorder, and I can't > risk having him exposed to a superbug created by this anti- bacterial junk. > He is anaphylactically allergic to many antibiotics, and I fight to not have > him exposed to any more. > > Noreen > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 11, 2006 I hope they take your child's allergy the same way. I know it is not life threatening but it is still not right to expose her to things that cause her harm. I won't give my kids antibiotics either unless it is for something serious like strep. I know many people who ask the dr for meds as soon as the child has a runny nose. I am grateful that my dr doesn't try to cram them down my throat, so to speak. My own internist does give out meds much more easily and I make him crazy because I don't want to take them. I try to treat everything naturally. They both think that is nuts. When I was a kid everything was treated with antibiotics so I got more than my share then. Carol Noreen Davisson <davisson wrote: Thanks for the support. Neither of my children is allowed to use sanitizer. I have supplied wipes for each of them to use on days that they might have special classes in common with this child. I know who she is because of previous volunteer work in the building. Unfortunately, Mommy has threatened lawsuit, so the district runs scared. In a town where every third SAHM is a lawyer, it's not hard to find one that will " take a case " . My daughter's reaction to sanitizer occurred on a gym day, when her classmates used sanitizer and then they were bowling. Other children touched the ball and pins with freshly sanitized hands, and Kate broke out in hives on her hands and face. I've spent eons at school board meetings and have discussed the sanitizer issue with the safety committee chairman. He's gotten tons of info, including the studies from the Journal of Allergy and Clinical Immunology. It's just an uphill battle and it peeves me. My ped loves me because I will fight against antibiotics unless I know they're necessary. I educate the nurses and nurse practitioners. We've been through strep and Lyme disease recently, and those I will medicate. I will give Rich pain relief medication for ear infections, unless we have fluid and can culture it. I also fight for antibiotic ear drops instead of oral antibiotics if he needs an antibiotic. Why poison his whole system if the infection is in his ear? Noreen On Behalf Of rtillmansmail Tuesday, October 10, 2006 12:24 PM Re: nuts >> " I guess my problem in this case in our school is that no one has ever shown proof regarding this allergy. Why do children have to sanitize their hands with alcohol gel, which co-incidentally does not remove peanut essence, before entering the art and music rooms, library and gym on days that this child might enter them? I can't stand the hand sanitizer aspect of the deal - that's what kills me. It doesn't do anything, so why should the children have to use it? Teach them to wash their hands! My son has a mild immune disorder, and I can't risk having him exposed to a superbug created by this anti-bacterial junk. He is anaphylactically allergic to many antibiotics, and I fight to not have him exposed to any more. " I definitely think you have a very valid point. I may have missed the first part of this thread - do you know which child, or is identity being kept secret so someone can't purposely harm said child? If ID is known and since ban isn't school district wide, some proof should be on file. It doesn't have to be a HIPPA protected medical record, just a statement signed by a school official that s/he did the proper follow up (that the parent released medical records to the school and allergy was confirmed). If ID is being kept secret, the form can have the child's name cut out. It doesn't seem difficult but officials can bind the simplest things in red tape. By all means, if you haven't already, I would take a signed statement from your DR. re: child's immune disorder, antibiotic reactions and no alcohol sanitizer. If Dr. doesn't agree with sanitizer, just take statement and volumes of literature (ex. CDC) re: ill effects of sanitizers. Insist your child not use them. Your child has every right to be protected as the nut allergy child. I think you can find more info from the American with Disabilitites Act. And you should take info you have re: sanitizer not removing oil from hands. That should indirectly protect your child by helping the other, while you are talking to your Dr., etc. Of course, you may have already done all this. I wish you luck. >> " If the child is so allergic that no can eat peanuts for X hours before seeing him/her, how does this child ever go out " I don't personally know anyone this bad but from my medical training I know it can exist. I have seen daytime talk shows in which parents said their child goes nowhere but to school or homes of family that are nut-free. Carrol PS The Journal of Allergy and Clinical Immunology published a study conducted by John Hopkins showing plain water removed twice as much of peanut butter from hands than the sanitizer, Just in case you didn't already have this article. I hate this stuff too. Medically we are taught all about how bad and/or misleading it is. Yet, my pede now uses it in her office instead of washing hands. I just don't understand why people fall for advertising. My dd is not in school but I won't allow her to use these sanitizers at gym class, etc. We go to the restroom and WASH her hands. What a concept! - -- In , Noreen Davisson <davisson wrote: > > I guess my problem in this case in our school is that no one has ever shown > proof regarding this allergy. If the child is so allergic that no can eat > peanuts for X hours before seeing him/her, how does this child ever go out > in public, since peanut buter is not banned throughout the township/county? > Does she ever go to playgrounds, kiddie arcades or other places that > children go for parties and recreation? Since it is only her grade that is > not allowed to bring in peanuts, how does she walk past the lunches of other > grades (stored in the hall) and not have an anaphylactic reaction? In a > school with 650 students, don't tell me no one eats peanut butter. Why do > children have to sanitize their hands with alcohol gel, which > co-incidentally does not remove peanut essence, before entering the art and > music rooms, library and gym on days that this child might enter them? I > can't stand the hand sanitizer aspect of the deal - that's what kills me. > It doesn't do anything, so why should the children have to use it? Teach > them to wash their hands! My son has a mild immune disorder, and I can't > risk having him exposed to a superbug created by this anti- bacterial junk. > He is anaphylactically allergic to many antibiotics, and I fight to not have > him exposed to any more. > > Noreen > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 11, 2006 wow, sounds like the attorney for the school board isn't doing a very good job! And, I guess you can't threaten your own suit without losing your job. best of luck carrol , Noreen Davisson <davisson wrote: > > Thanks for the support. Neither of my children is allowed to use > sanitizer. I have supplied wipes for each of them to use on days that they > might have special classes in common with this child. I know who she is > because of previous volunteer work in the building. Unfortunately, Mommy > has threatened lawsuit, so the district runs scared. In a town where every > third SAHM is a lawyer, it's not hard to find one that will " take a case " . > My daughter's reaction to sanitizer occurred on a gym day, when her > classmates used sanitizer and then they were bowling. Other children > touched the ball and pins with freshly sanitized hands, and Kate broke out > in hives on her hands and face. I've spent eons at school board meetings > and have discussed the sanitizer issue with the safety committee chairman. > He's gotten tons of info, including the studies from the Journal of Allergy > and Clinical Immunology. It's just an uphill battle and it peeves me. > > I am a teacher and we are > counseled to look for signs of abuse, > > Noreen > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 11, 2006 Well that is just the most ridiculous thing I have heard (not angry at you - just the message you bear). I personally don't believe in taking a bath every day. Regularly, yes, but not every day. It dries out your skin and hair and is a waste of one of our most precious resources - water. If someone told me I was negligent because my kid didn't take a bath, I would tell them they were insane. However, that being said, my kids have never gotten stamps on their hands every day. Never heard of that actually. okay, sorry, that just struck a chord with me.... , " rtillmansmail " <rtillmansmail wrote: >Second, the faculty > does look for this if there is an affected child in their school. In > fact, have you ever wondered why teachers like to put those silly > stamps on kids every day? It allows them to see which kid is getting > a bath on a regular basis and which isn't. That way, they know when > to call social services for negligence. (This is what my aunt was > required to do.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 11, 2006 growing up, i took showers twice a day...before school and before bed. i washed my hair and skin in every shower. now i look back on that and think of all the trouble i had with my skin and my hair. i take showers every 2-3 days now, and i only wash my hair once a week. either with bronner's or something i've made myself. i wash my face with water during my showers or baths and that's it. my hair and skin have never been healthier. and maybe this is TMI, but i rarely need deodorant anymore either. i use the rock once a week out of habit and never need it more than that. and that's in the desert! of course, i'm also vegan, don't wear makeup, and don't shave, all of which i think helps my skin and hair and good-smellingness. but i think a lot of it is that i was over-clean. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 12, 2006 I used to take showers every day, and you know what? I've got too much else to do these days, and my hair almost seems to be growing faster now that I stopped washing it all the time. Why bother? I stay home with the kids every day so I could get pretty raunchy-smelling and it wouldn't even matter. I just joined the community orchestra, though, and nobody likes a smelly trumpet player! Guess I'll have to make sure and shower on rehearsal days. Kadee Sedtal earthmother <earthmother213 wrote: growing up, i took showers twice a day...before school and before bed. i washed my hair and skin in every shower. now i look back on that and think of all the trouble i had with my skin and my hair. i take showers every 2-3 days now, and i only wash my hair once a week. either with bronner's or something i've made myself. i wash my face with water during my showers or baths and that's it. my hair and skin have never been healthier. and maybe this is TMI, but i rarely need deodorant anymore either. i use the rock once a week out of habit and never need it more than that. and that's in the desert! of course, i'm also vegan, don't wear makeup, and don't shave, all of which i think helps my skin and hair and good-smellingness. but i think a lot of it is that i was over-clean. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 12, 2006 I took showers twice a day when I was in High School. I also had swim team before school and afterschool and NEEDED to get the chlorine off of me. When my daughter goes to camp or swimming lessons or anything where she is in the chlorine on a daily basis I make her take a bath daily. Otherwise she does 4 times a week Tues., Thurs., Sat and Sun. My daughter's former pediatrician (she moved) said to only bathe her 3 times a week when she was a baby and I don't think I should have her bathe much more than that on a regular basis unless she needs to be bathed (like to get chlorine off). I have extremely dry, brittle skin - year round but worse in the wintertime. I blame years of being in chlorine everyday - but certainly bathing twice a day over a period of time so my body couldn't produce its on natural oils didn't help. Renee earthmother <earthmother213 wrote: growing up, i took showers twice a day...before school and before bed. i washed my hair and skin in every shower. now i look back on that and think of all the trouble i had with my skin and my hair. i take showers every 2-3 days now, and i only wash my hair once a week. either with bronner's or something i've made myself. i wash my face with water during my showers or baths and that's it. my hair and skin have never been healthier. and maybe this is TMI, but i rarely need deodorant anymore either. i use the rock once a week out of habit and never need it more than that. and that's in the desert! of course, i'm also vegan, don't wear makeup, and don't shave, all of which i think helps my skin and hair and good-smellingness. but i think a lot of it is that i was over-clean. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 19, 2007 Hi Terri, It's very hard to find fresh nuts, particularly pine nuts. Macadamias are a little easier as they are a bit less perishable. Some of the smaller stores refrigerate their shelled nuts, but then the turnover is also much less in small stores so this offsets the refrigeration, perhaps. Whole Foods turns over lots of product but the nuts aren't sealed or refrigerated so they are stale. PCC refrigerates their pine nuts but they are still rancid for some reason, or at least they were when I tried them. I bought my pine nuts at Trader Joe's last year and they were consistently great but I've tried them this winter and they were stale. I've tried cashews from about a dozen different stores, just to compare, and found that Trader Joe's are far and away the best. For some reason I've never really been into macadamias (except when I used to blend them with strawberries & dates for a great apple dip) but I'd try Trader Joe's if I was. They sell lots, so products are fresh and the nuts are sealed in plastic bags. It's true the lighter the color the better, but I wouldn't hold out for pure white ones. Macadamias and pine nuts are off white when you take them out of the shell. Btw, last year I found pine nuts in the shell at Wal-Mart, of all places. The risk in 86ing nuts because of the freshness issue is that without them a transitional raw diet can be unsatisfying and can lead to backsliding into cooked food. Of course almonds, walnuts and pecans are a pretty safe bet, especially if you buy them unshelled. Even if you buy them shelled, they are less perishable than macadamias, pine nuts and cashews. Hard to say whether you should toss your slightly rancid nuts. You can always eat some alone or with celery or lettuce and see how you feel the next morning. I'm sure they're no worse than some of the things you were eating until recently (presumably) as a cooked food eater! Best wishes, Nora P.S. Sorry, Lake Forest Park is too far for me to drive. I'm open if you want to meet at a Bellevue location, tho. Our Eastside raw meetup never went anywhere I guess. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 19, 2007 Nora, Thank you for the input on nuts. Greater Seattle covers such a big area, and such busy freeways. If a group can form at Third Place Commons that would be my preference. Terri Nora Lenz <nmlenz wrote: Hi Terri, It's very hard to find fresh nuts, particularly pine nuts. Macadamias are a little easier as they are a bit less perishable. Some of the smaller stores refrigerate their shelled nuts, but then the turnover is also much less in small stores so this offsets the refrigeration, perhaps. Whole Foods turns over lots of product but the nuts aren't sealed or refrigerated so they are stale. PCC refrigerates their pine nuts but they are still rancid for some reason, or at least they were when I tried them. I bought my pine nuts at Trader Joe's last year and they were consistently great but I've tried them this winter and they were stale. I've tried cashews from about a dozen different stores, just to compare, and found that Trader Joe's are far and away the best. For some reason I've never really been into macadamias (except when I used to blend them with strawberries & dates for a great apple dip) but I'd try Trader Joe's if I was. They sell lots, so products are fresh and the nuts are sealed in plastic bags. It's true the lighter the color the better, but I wouldn't hold out for pure white ones. Macadamias and pine nuts are off white when you take them out of the shell. Btw, last year I found pine nuts in the shell at Wal-Mart, of all places. The risk in 86ing nuts because of the freshness issue is that without them a transitional raw diet can be unsatisfying and can lead to backsliding into cooked food. Of course almonds, walnuts and pecans are a pretty safe bet, especially if you buy them unshelled. Even if you buy them shelled, they are less perishable than macadamias, pine nuts and cashews. Hard to say whether you should toss your slightly rancid nuts. You can always eat some alone or with celery or lettuce and see how you feel the next morning. I'm sure they're no worse than some of the things you were eating until recently (presumably) as a cooked food eater! Best wishes, Nora P.S. Sorry, Lake Forest Park is too far for me to drive. I'm open if you want to meet at a Bellevue location, tho. Our Eastside raw meetup never went anywhere I guess. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 19, 2007 Unless you live where a nut grower comes to a local farmers market. the best nuts come in the mail, directly from growers. I'm not super current on which growers to use, but I've purchased nuts in this way in the past ... when I used to eat many nuts. Best, Elchanan RawSeattle [RawSeattle ] On Behalf Of Terri Zappone Thursday, January 18, 2007 10:27 PM Nora, Thank you for the input on nuts. Greater Seattle covers such a big area, and such busy freeways. If a group can form at Third Place Commons that would be my preference. Terri Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 19, 2007 Elchanan: I hope you don't mind me asking. What do you eat now in place of eating lots of nuts. I find that I am allergic to most, if not all, the nuts mentioned, which puts a damper in allowing me to do the raw diet the way it's designed. Thanks, Siri Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 12, 2008 At 18:53 +0000 08/06/12, wrote: >Thanks for the article, Mark. Do you know if there has been a >similar study done where the fat is from a few ounces of raw walnuts >or other raw nuts? I eat a few ounces of nuts a day because if I go >totally fat-free, my heart skips beats and it's very unsettling. The >nuts do an amazing job keeping my heart beats regular. I don't have >oils at home, but occasionally ingest it in social situations >(someone else's house or a restaurant, etc.), and I'm willing to stop >that, but not convinced I should give up the nuts. Essy writes (and told me as well) that the " prohibition " on nuts (and to a similar degree, avocadoes) is if you already have heart disease issues. 'Sides, flax seeds and walnuts are excellent sources of Omega 3. I try to keep my nuts (ahem) raw.... Best, Mark Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 13, 2008 On 6/12/08, Mark Sutton <msutton wrote: > > Essy writes (and told me as well) that the " prohibition " on nuts (and > to a similar degree, avocadoes) is if you already have heart disease issues. And from the diabetes front, Dr. Barnard says that nuts and avocadoes are okay for people with diabetes but to limit them. Nuts are garnish, not snacks. And the preferred recipe for guacamole adds mashed green peas (the texture and flavor of avocado renders them nearly invisible, especially if you add salsa to your guacamole) to cut down on the concentration of fat. > 'Sides, flax seeds and walnuts are excellent sources of Omega 3. And chia seeds! I keep asking my co-op to carry chia seeds but since I'm the only one asking, they don't have them. If they're not here by the end of summer, I'm going to mail-order some. (Or if I find someone local who wants to split an order with me, I'll mail-order some sooner.) Sparrow Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
