Guest guest Report post Posted January 13, 2004 HELP! Due to a thyroid condition, I have just been told to avoid eating (particularly in their raw forms) goitrogens foods. They include: broccoli, cauliflower, Brussel sprouts, cabbage, mustard, kale, turnips. Does anyone else have a similar situation and what on heavens am I supposed to eat. The above include several staples. Nina Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 13, 2004 hi nina, are you hyper or hypo thyroid? or is it something else? i'm hypo-thyroid (i can not convert T4 to T3), for which i'm taking medicine. my doc didn't mention about not eating certain things. . . .. -birte HELP! Due to a thyroid condition, I have just been told to avoid eating (particularly in their raw forms) goitrogens foods. They include: broccoli, cauliflower, Brussel sprouts, cabbage, mustard, kale, turnips. Does anyone else have a similar situation and what on heavens am I supposed to eat. The above include several staples. Nina Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 14, 2004 Hi Everyone, i am new to the group and would like to begin by thanking every one for sharing their experience with raw foods. I was introduced to raw food through dr.bass's website which was recommended by the school I go to. I have been studying homeopathy for the past 2 years and have tried every thing out there to lose weight in a healthy way. I have been gaining weight uncontrolably no matter how I ate or exercised. Finally through dr.bass's regimen of raw foods i started to shed the pounds, yet still far less than he had predicted for the average person. This lead me to look into my thyroid, it turned out that my thyroid levels showed to be " normal " even though I had all the classical symptoms of hypothyroid. I have been taking a homeopathically prepared thyroid potency daily and some of my symptoms have been aleviated over the past 2 months. I have also avoided the goitergen foods and find that i no longer retain water due to the high salt content of these foods. Those were some of my favorite foods, but not if they would be harmful to me. Nina, I try to stick to carrots, zucchini, mushrooms, collard greens, soya beans, romain lettuce, snow peas, radishes, spinach and tomatoes and of course fresh fruit to snack on. It was also VERY helpful to consider my blood type (A) and eat according to Dr. D'Adamo's prescription. As a vegetarian I have felt very limited in terms of food selection, but that's when i turned to Dr. Bass's recommendations and found out what my body wanted from me regimenally speaking and of course that means RAW! So thanks again to all the participants on this list who have contributed websites, recipe ideas etc.. Ana Montreal, Canada. Where it is -30 degrees celcius these days! > " Birte M. Haakansson " <birte1 >rawfood ><rawfood > >RE: [Raw Food] Goitrogens >Tue, 13 Jan 2004 15:23:58 -0800 > >hi nina, are you hyper or hypo thyroid? or is it something else? i'm >hypo-thyroid (i can not convert T4 to T3), for which i'm taking >medicine. my doc didn't mention about not eating certain things. . . >. > >-birte > > >HELP! Due to a thyroid condition, I have just been told to avoid >eating (particularly in their raw forms) goitrogens foods. They >include: broccoli, cauliflower, Brussel sprouts, cabbage, mustard, >kale, turnips. > >Does anyone else have a similar situation and what on heavens am I >supposed to eat. The above include several staples. > >Nina > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 15, 2004 Wellcome and thanks for the post and bringing up the thyroid topic. The thyroid is certainly relevant to the body's metabolism (including digestion). Thyroid malfunction, I dare think, is probably the result of toxicity, etc. I am skeptical of presumptive and premature conclusions (regarding goitergens and other nutritional statements posted on the web by half baked researchers). I quote the following (and include a link): " Because carefully controlled research studies have yet to take place on the relationship between goitrogenic foods and thyroid hormone deficiency, healthcare practitioners differ greatly on their perspectives as to whether a person who has thyroid problems, and notably a thyroid hormone deficiency, should limit their intake of goitrogenic foods. Most practitioners use words like “overconsumption” or “excessive” to describe the kind of goitrogen intake that would be a problem for individuals with thyroid hormone deficiency. Here the goal is not to eliminate goitrogenic foods from the meal plan, but to limit intake so that it falls into a reasonable range. " http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=george & dbid=47 regards, tev Ana V <heilkunstjourney wrote: Hi Everyone, i am new to the group and would like to begin by thanking every one for sharing their experience with raw foods. I was introduced to raw food through dr.bass's website which was recommended I had all the classical symptoms of hypothyroid. I have been taking a homeopathically prepared thyroid potency daily and some of my symptoms have been aleviated over the past 2 months. I have also avoided the goitergen foods and find that i no longer retain water due to the high salt content of these foods. Those were some of my favorite foods, but not if they would be harmful to me. Ana Montreal, Canada. Where it is -30 degrees celcius these days! > The experience of dynamic religious living transforms the mediocre individual into a personality of idealistic power. Religion ministers to the progress of all through fostering the progress of each individual, and the progress of each is augmented through the achievement of all. [The Urantia Book: 1094:1] Hotjobs: Enter the " Signing Bonus " Sweepstakes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 22, 2004 Dear Birte, They are now not sure if it is a thyroid condition as my test results have come back rather screwy. The concern was that I had hypo. Below is some info I found on diet, although I found it on several sources, including the Thyroid Association (or something like that). Foods to avoid Thiocyanate glucosides, substances found in vegetables from the cabbage (brassica) family, have an antagonistic effect on the binding of iodine in the thyroid. Persons with hypothryoidism would do well to limit consumption of raw brussel sprouts, cabbage, kale, broccoli and cauliflower. Cooking negates this effect. Soy isoflavones also appear to exert a negative effect on thyroid hormone activity. Animals fed soy protein experienced a decline in T4, free T4 and T3 while experiencing an increase in r-T3. In one study, 37 healthy adults consumed 30 grams of soybeans for 1-3 months. They experienced significantly increased TSH levels and hypometabolic symptoms suggestive of functional thyroid hormone deficiency (malaise, constipation, sleepiness). Goiters appeared in half the subjects. Symptoms disappeared after one month cessation of soy ingestion. Nina rawfood , " Birte M. Haakansson " <birte1@c...> wrote: > hi nina, are you hyper or hypo thyroid? or is it something else? i'm > hypo-thyroid (i can not convert T4 to T3), for which i'm taking > medicine. my doc didn't mention about not eating certain things. . . > . > > -birte > > > HELP! Due to a thyroid condition, I have just been told to avoid > eating (particularly in their raw forms) goitrogens foods. They > include: broccoli, cauliflower, Brussel sprouts, cabbage, mustard, > kale, turnips. > > Does anyone else have a similar situation and what on heavens am I > supposed to eat. The above include several staples. > > Nina > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 22, 2004 Thanks tev N. rawfood , tev treowlufu <goraw808> wrote: > Wellcome and thanks for the post and bringing up the thyroid > topic. The thyroid is certainly relevant to the body's > metabolism (including digestion). Thyroid malfunction, > I dare think, is probably the result of toxicity, etc. > > I am skeptical of presumptive and premature > conclusions (regarding goitergens and other nutritional > statements posted on the web by half baked researchers). > I quote the following (and include a link): > > " Because carefully controlled research studies have yet to take place on the relationship between goitrogenic foods and thyroid hormone deficiency, healthcare practitioners differ greatly on their perspectives as to whether a person who has thyroid problems, and notably a thyroid hormone deficiency, should limit their intake of goitrogenic foods. Most practitioners use words like " overconsumption " or " excessive " to describe the kind of goitrogen intake that would be a problem for individuals with thyroid hormone deficiency. Here the goal is not to eliminate goitrogenic foods from the meal plan, but to limit intake so that it falls into a reasonable range. " > > http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=george & dbid=47 > > > > regards, > > tev > > Ana V <heilkunstjourney@h...> wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > i am new to the group and would like to begin by thanking every one for > sharing their experience with raw foods. > I was introduced to raw food through dr.bass's website which was recommended > > > I had all the classical symptoms of hypothyroid. I have > been taking a homeopathically prepared thyroid potency daily and some of my > symptoms have been aleviated over the past 2 months. I have also avoided the > goitergen foods and find that i no longer retain water due to the high salt > content of these foods. Those were some of my favorite foods, but not if > they would be harmful to me. > > Ana > Montreal, Canada. Where it is -30 degrees celcius these days! > > > > > > The experience of dynamic religious living transforms the mediocre individual into a personality of idealistic power. Religion ministers to the progress of all through fostering the progress of each individual, and the progress of each is augmented through the achievement of all. [The Urantia Book: 1094:1] > > > > Hotjobs: Enter the " Signing Bonus " Sweepstakes > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 24, 2004 There are plenty of wonderful raw foods you can eat without the goitrogens. This includes all fresh fruit, meaning the sweet fruit like banana, mango, dates, persimmon; the melons like watermelon, cantelope, honeydew; the acid fruits like orange, lemon, grapefruit, pineapple, tamarind; the subacids like apple, pear, grape, strawberry, blueberry; the nonsweet fruit like tomato, avocado, bell pepper, zuccini. In addition, there are the leafy greens: lettuces like romaine, iceberg, butterleaf, arugula, frisee, celery, spinach. Then there are the nuts and seeds: nuts like walnuts, almonds, macadamias; seeds like sesame, sunflower. Bryan rawfood , " Nina Dunham " <ndunham@r...> wrote: > HELP! Due to a thyroid condition, I have just been told to avoid > eating (particularly in their raw forms) goitrogens foods. They > include: broccoli, cauliflower, Brussel sprouts, cabbage, mustard, > kale, turnips. > > Does anyone else have a similar situation and what on heavens am I > supposed to eat. The above include several staples. > > Nina Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
