Doctor Dogmeat muzzled by pet lovers

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In a message dated 1/19/02 10:45:42 AM Pacific Standard Time,

Snowbow writes:

 

<<

Whether or not you, Chris or Anton LeVay like it, it is a fact that this

behaviour was referred to as " satanic " many centuries before Anton LeVay

adopted the term for his own political/religious outfit! >>

 

everything was satanic tho!!!

dancing around a maypole was satanic, women working was satanic..

depends on the person spouting the talk

chevron claims to be environmentally responsible, do you believe them???

fraggle

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Hi Fraggle

 

> little kids(whether actual kids, or thats as far their temperment

progressed)

> who torture animals or perform murder rituals are about as satanistic as

my

> left toe....(oh, i'm not satanistic at all, just so you know..i'd have to

> beleive in the christian gawd to believe in satan)

> its all a matter of perspective

 

Whether or not you, Chris or Anton LeVay like it, it is a fact that this

behaviour was referred to as " satanic " many centuries before Anton LeVay

adopted the term for his own political/religious outfit!

 

BB

Peter

 

 

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Hi Fraggle

 

Just a couple of points here....

 

> that more of a duelaist credo, which was considered herisy for a long time

> satan was lucifer, who rebelled against god, and was cast out, or will be

> cast out or..depends on how you read the bible

 

The original term " Satan " , as used in the OT is more of a job title than a

name - a bit like a defense lawyer when God is prosecuting, if you see what

I mean. To use a terrible pun, it was simply a character who played " Devil's

advocate " ! There is no consideration in the OT of " Satan " as a single

individual.

 

> the duelist bit began in persia with zorasterism, and spread..

 

I know little about Zarathustrianism, but the one talk I've been to about

it, the person stated that they had many gods - not just two.

 

> the cathars believed there was a good god(who was invisible, and aloof),

and

> an evil go\d, satan, known as rex mundi, king of the world..he created the

> world and everything material, the spirit is pure and belongs to god...and

> fer theire troubles, the cathars were slaughtered by the thousands in the

> alibgenisis crusade

 

Rex Mundi isn't really comparable with the Christian Satan - he and the

other God are absolutely equal - one in charge of the spirit, one in charge

of the physical. It's a very different relationship to that of the Christian

God / Satan.

 

BB

Peter

 

 

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Fraggle & Chris

 

There is one question still unanswered - what do Satanists believe/practice.

D o you know.

 

Jo

 

Ah yes, but ....

 

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" All truth passes through 3 stages.

First, it is ridiculed.

Second, it is violently opposed.

Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. "

- Arthur Schopenhauer

 

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<EBbrewpunx

 

Saturday, January 19, 2002 6:12 PM

Re: Re: Doctor Dogmeat muzzled by pet lovers

 

 

> In a message dated 1/19/02 2:49:42 AM Pacific Standard Time,

> Heartwork writes:

>

> << As far as my understanding goes - the Christian God is split in two -

good

> and evil, and the evil bit is supposed to be Satan (whereas in Paganism

Gods

> are complete, and a mixture of good and evil). I am also aware that

Satan

> was around before the New Testament, so is it this character that is

called

> upon - and what are his characteristics. >>

>

> not really

> that more of a duelaist credo, which was considered herisy for a long time

> satan was lucifer, who rebelled against god, and was cast out, or will be

> cast out or..depends on how you read the bible

> the duelist bit began in persia with zorasterism, and spread..

> the cathars believed there was a good god(who was invisible, and aloof),

and

> an evil go\d, satan, known as rex mundi, king of the world..he created the

> world and everything material, the spirit is pure and belongs to god...and

> fer theire troubles, the cathars were slaughtered by the thousands in the

> alibgenisis crusade

> see wot you started chris!!

> ahahha

> oh crap..ok, really going to shave and shower now

> bye

> cheers

> adios

> fraggle

>

> To send an email to -

>

>

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Fraggle

 

> yeah, and those who follow " islam " fly planes into buildings

> are they the true muslims? i think not.......

 

Quite - but what do Satanists do? I'm not accusing them of anything, just

wondering what they do.

>

> little kids(whether actual kids, or thats as far their temperment

progressed)

> who torture animals or perform murder rituals are about as satanistic as

my

> left toe....(oh, i'm not satanistic at all, just so you know..i'd have to

> beleive in the christian gawd to believe in satan)

> its all a matter of perspective

>

> fraggle

>

>

> To send an email to -

>

>

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sorry the message was not directed to me but could you please expand as i work in a pharmacy and have been recommending echinacea as an alternative to the usual nasty medicines.

Shelloid

 

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xxx_suicidal_vegan_xxx

Saturday, January 19, 2002 9:18 AM

Re: Doctor Dogmeat muzzled by pet lovers

> It rained here yesterday, and froze solid overnight - couldn't get in the> car door this morning. Elderflower and Lemon tea, and Echinacea is very> good for helping you get over colds.Jo, did you hear about that study last year that linked Echinacea to strokes in women?? Just FYI...Chris XTo send an email to -

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, EBbrewpunx@c... wrote:

> little kids(whether actual kids, or thats as far their temperment

progressed)

> who torture animals or perform murder rituals are about as

satanistic as my

> left toe....(oh, i'm not satanistic at all, just so you know..i'd

have to

> beleive in the christian gawd to believe in satan)

> its all a matter of perspective

> fraggle

 

well,actually...anyone who believes in the xian god is as Satanic as

the sacrificial type. True Satanism observes No Gods,No Masters. You

are your own god.

 

(Anti)Chris(t) X

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you've been listening to the day glo abortions tooo much chris

i am my own god!!!

teehee

 

no matter how you slice it, satan is a christian construct tho...he might be a

polyglot from other traditions and wot not, but, satan was tossed in as god's

adversary and basically became the boogeyman of christianity

boi, have we gotten off topic

i blame satan

fraggle

 

 

" xxx_suicidal_vegan_xxx " <XBobaFettX wrote:

 

>, EBbrewpunx@c... wrote:

>> little kids(whether actual kids, or thats as far their temperment

>progressed)

>> who torture animals or perform murder rituals are about as

>satanistic as my

>> left toe....(oh, i'm not satanistic at all, just so you know..i'd

>have to

>> beleive in the christian gawd to believe in satan)

>> its all a matter of perspective

>> fraggle

>

>well,actually...anyone who believes in the xian god is as Satanic as

>the sacrificial type. True Satanism observes No Gods,No Masters. You

>are your own god.

>

>(Anti)Chris(t) X

>

>

>To send an email to -

>

>

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In a message dated 1/21/02 11:53:04 AM Pacific Standard Time,

Heartwork writes:

 

<< The thing I find strange is that a group of people would give their

religion

a name that most people would associate with evil >>

 

why not

lots of folks take slurs and things meant to ridicule them and use them with

pride..

yankees

queer

punks

its a sort of empowerment

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Chris

 

> well,actually...anyone who believes in the xian god is as Satanic as

> the sacrificial type. True Satanism observes No Gods,No Masters. You

> are your own god.

 

In that case, why do they call them selves Satanists, and associate an idea

with themselves?

 

Jo

 

 

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Fraggle

 

> no matter how you slice it, satan is a christian construct tho...he might

be a polyglot from other traditions and wot not, but, satan was tossed in as

god's adversary and basically became the boogeyman of christianity

 

The thing I find strange is that a group of people would give their religion

a name that most people would associate with evil.

 

Jo

 

 

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, EBbrewpunx@c... wrote:

> you've been listening to the day glo abortions tooo much chris

 

there's a band I havent rocked out in forever..I was hoping you'd

catch my Amebix reference in my last post,guess not..oh well.

Hail Seitan!

 

Chris X

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> The thing I find strange is that a group of people would give their

religion

> a name that most people would associate with evil.

>

> Jo

 

another misconception..satanism is not a religion..a philosophy,most

of which can be reshaped into personal tastes.

 

Chris X

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sorry

haven't heard amebix in years..and was never into crust core

hahahahahahah

fraggle

 

 

In a message dated 1/21/02 11:41:30 PM Pacific Standard Time,

XBobaFettX writes:

 

<<

there's a band I havent rocked out in forever..I was hoping you'd

catch my Amebix reference in my last post,guess not..oh well.

Hail Seitan!

 

Chris X >>

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Hi Ian

 

> > lots of folks take slurs and things meant to ridicule them and use them

with

> " Christian "

 

Christian simply derives from the Greek word for oil. Not sure that it was

ever used as a slur!

 

BB

Peter

 

 

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