Doctor Dogmeat muzzled by pet lovers

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SOUTH KOREA: January 16, 2002

 

 

SEOUL - Hounded by pet lovers, South Korean dogmeat proponents were forced to

postpone a major event planned for this week to promote canine cuisine and fight

off international critics.

 

 

Feisty animal lovers' phone calls prompted the owner of the venue to withdraw

its offer to rent space to a would-be dogmeat restaurant federation that planned

to launch a campaign to promote the meat to tourists before and during the World

Cup.

" There were complaints from animal lovers, " said Kim Yoong-kwan, spokesman for

KT Corp, the state-owned telephone company which owns the hall outside Seoul

where the dogmeat convention was to be held.

 

" We cancelled our plan to rent the building as we had allowed them to use the

building on the assumption there will be a seminar, not something like an

opening ceremony, " he said of the unwanted publicity.

 

Some 100 dogmeat restaurant owners were to launch their federation on Monday

with an appearance by a college professor dubbed " Doctor Dogmeat " who boasts 350

canine recipes and a development strategy for the Korean dogmeat industry.

 

Dogs are bred to be eaten in South Korea, notably in poshintang, literally " body

preservation stew " , which advocates say is good for your health and which is

considered a delicacy by some.

 

The eating of dogmeat in Korea caused particular alarm abroad and among animal

rights activists in South Korea ahead of the 2002 World Cup soccer finals as

some dogs are killed to make the meat more tender by beating, burning or

hanging.

 

One South Korean civic group has used the Internet to run an aggressive campaign

against eating dogmeat, even calling for a boycott of the World Cup finals,

which South Korea and Japan will co-host from May 31 to June 30.

 

The Anti-Dogmeat Headquarters (www.admh.org) challenges dogmeat proponents'

claim that Korean culture is under attack, declaring that " eating dogs is a

barbaric Chinese custom " .

 

 

 

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Fraggle

 

Isn't it strange that people willingly eat lovely little lambs and cows,

chicken, turkeys, ducks, pigs and fish, and then pretend morality at eating

dogs!

 

Jo

 

Ah yes, but ...

 

 

> Doctor Dogmeat muzzled by pet lovers

 

 

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Hi Persian et al

 

Welcome!

 

> I wrote to the President of the FIFA and also the Korean Govt to protest

> not so much about the fact that they are eating dog, as Jo and others

> are saying here what's the difference between a dog or a pig etc etc.

> I was protesting about the treatment of the dogs before eating.

 

I agree with everybody here! Yep - there's no difference to me between a dog

and a cow, pig or lamb. But I still don't see any harm in making a noise

about any of them when the opportunity arises. If our culture happens to see

dogs as somehow different, let's make the most of it and help a few dogs!

:-)

 

BB

Peter

 

 

 

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Persian

 

> I was protesting about the treatment of the dogs before eating.

> Part of this so called culture is to inflict the most pain possible

> on the dogs as it is supposed to make a more powerful aphrodisiac (sp?).

 

This seems to fit in with what I have read from conspiracy theorists about

the hormones produced by fear etc. being used by 'satanists' (spiritually, I

believe) when they kill their victim. I'm not sure if this is a correct

assumption from what I read, but Peter can fill in detail if necessary.

 

I do think the way they treat the animals is terrible. I can never

understand the things people do!

 

Good luck with the campaign.

 

Jo

>

> The dogs are routinely hung alive from branches and beaten with

> bricks etc, they have bones broken and left like that and more broken,

> they are also skinned.

>

> The lady who runs our Animal Lib was ill after seeing this video which

> was filmed undercover, or whatever the expression is.

>

> >From our Victorian Animal LIb standpoint anyway we are only protesting

> about the cruelty, not about the eating of dogs, although of course

> we strongly disagree with it, it amounts to the same as protesting

> about the diet of most of the world doesn't it?!

>

> Just thought I would throw my 2 cents in

>

> Persian

>

>

>

>

> To send an email to -

>

>

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saw a video once of cats in a resturant somewhere in asia

they pulled them out of cages with catch poles, whacked em a few times in the

head, and tossed em in boiling water

one cat was still alive afterwards, gasping for breathe, as he had been boiled

alive..as they pulled his fur off

*shudder*

no worse then stickin a hook thru a chicken's feet, and slicing its neck as it

rumbles along a conveyor belt upside down tho

ugh

fraggle

 

Persian <persian wrote:

 

>Hi all,

>

>On Wed, Jan 16, 2002 at 06:52:16PM -0000, Jo wrote:

>> Fraggle

>>

>> Isn't it strange that people willingly eat lovely little lambs and cows,

>> chicken, turkeys, ducks, pigs and fish, and then pretend morality at eating

>> dogs!

>>

>> Jo

>>

>

>I have my Animal Lib Newsletter here. The lady who runs it has seen

>a video of the happenings in Korea and I am unable to go into it

>fully on here.

>

>I wrote to the President of the FIFA and also the Korean Govt to protest

>not so much about the fact that they are eating dog, as Jo and others

>are saying here what's the difference between a dog or a pig etc etc.

>

>I was protesting about the treatment of the dogs before eating.

>Part of this so called culture is to inflict the most pain possible

>on the dogs as it is supposed to make a more powerful aphrodisiac (sp?).

>

>The dogs are routinely hung alive from branches and beaten with

>bricks etc, they have bones broken and left like that and more broken,

>they are also skinned.

>

>The lady who runs our Animal Lib was ill after seeing this video which

>was filmed undercover, or whatever the expression is.

>

>From our Victorian Animal LIb standpoint anyway we are only protesting

>about the cruelty, not about the eating of dogs, although of course

>we strongly disagree with it, it amounts to the same as protesting

>about the diet of most of the world doesn't it?!

>

>Just thought I would throw my 2 cents in

>

>Persian

>

>

>

>

>To send an email to -

>

>

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> This seems to fit in with what I have read from conspiracy

theorists about

> the hormones produced by fear etc. being used by 'satanists'

(spiritually, I

> believe) when they kill their victim. I'm not sure if this is a

correct

> assumption from what I read

 

well,it's not true as far as Satanists go. True Satanists do NOT

practice animal or human sacrifice.

 

From the Church of Satan- " We hold that all individuals have the right

to exercise sole dominion over their own lives,

and have the right to live in whatever manner they choose, so long as

they do not forcibly

interfere with the equal right of others to live in whatever manner

they choose. "

 

 

the 10th of the 11 Satanic Rules of the Earth:10. Do not kill non-

human animals unless you are attacked or for your food (I don't agree

with the food thing obviously,but this is just to present argument on

the sacrifice thing)

 

 

I could go on,as I'm quite into the Left Hand Path(both

philosophically,and the Entombed album..Jo should understand what I

mean here,hehe),but I don't wanna scare you all....Any further

questions,don't hesitate.

 

Hail Satan and Seitan!

 

Chris X

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, EBbrewpunx@c... wrote:

> saw a video once of cats in a resturant somewhere in asia

> they pulled them out of cages with catch poles, whacked em a few

times in the head, and tossed em in boiling water

> one cat was still alive afterwards, gasping for breathe, as he had

been boiled alive..as they pulled his fur off

> *shudder*

 

I saw that once..the entire program,I sat there crying,holding onto

my dog...when it was over,I wanted to go out and destroy every human

and human related thing in my path. People and theyre cruelty make me

sooo mad. Have I told you all I renounced my humanity some time ago?

 

Chris X

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figured you fer one of them heathen satan worshippers!!!!

]*douses chris with holy water*

 

(well, i was gonna douse him with beer, but, that would just be wrong on soooo

many levels)

get thee behind me satan!!

 

umm..why would you want satan behind you, wouldn't ya want him in front of ya

where you could watch him??

*spins to watch behind his buttocks*

tho, i'll take the seitan chris, fank yoo very much

fraggle

(damn stinkin cold dis morning!!!! had frost and ice on my bike!!! eeeeek!!!

warm sunny california, right...)

 

 

 

" xxx_suicidal_vegan_xxx " <XBobaFettX wrote:

 

>

>> This seems to fit in with what I have read from conspiracy

>theorists about

>> the hormones produced by fear etc. being used by 'satanists'

>(spiritually, I

>> believe) when they kill their victim. I'm not sure if this is a

>correct

>> assumption from what I read

>

>well,it's not true as far as Satanists go. True Satanists do NOT

>practice animal or human sacrifice.

>

>From the Church of Satan- " We hold that all individuals have the right

>to exercise sole dominion over their own lives,

>and have the right to live in whatever manner they choose, so long as

>they do not forcibly

>interfere with the equal right of others to live in whatever manner

>they choose. "

>

>

>the 10th of the 11 Satanic Rules of the Earth:10. Do not kill non-

>human animals unless you are attacked or for your food (I don't agree

>with the food thing obviously,but this is just to present argument on

>the sacrifice thing)

>

>

> I could go on,as I'm quite into the Left Hand Path(both

>philosophically,and the Entombed album..Jo should understand what I

>mean here,hehe),but I don't wanna scare you all....Any further

>questions,don't hesitate.

>

>Hail Satan and Seitan!

>

>Chris X

>

>

>

>

>To send an email to -

>

>

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lucky fer me, i was born a fraggle under a hop plant

 

 

that was the program that had all the fun things, liked canned hunting, and

tossing goats out of church steeples in spain.

 

makes ya almost wish the stars would be right, and cthulhu and the elder gods

would wipe the slate clean

IA! IA!

 

er, maybe not...

*grumbles to self*

fraggle

 

 

 

 

" xxx_suicidal_vegan_xxx " <XBobaFettX wrote:

 

>, EBbrewpunx@c... wrote:

>> saw a video once of cats in a resturant somewhere in asia

>> they pulled them out of cages with catch poles, whacked em a few

>times in the head, and tossed em in boiling water

>> one cat was still alive afterwards, gasping for breathe, as he had

>been boiled alive..as they pulled his fur off

>> *shudder*

>

>I saw that once..the entire program,I sat there crying,holding onto

>my dog...when it was over,I wanted to go out and destroy every human

>and human related thing in my path. People and theyre cruelty make me

>sooo mad. Have I told you all I renounced my humanity some time ago?

>

>Chris X

>

>

>To send an email to -

>

>

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Chris

 

> well,it's not true as far as Satanists go. True Satanists do NOT

> practice animal or human sacrifice.

 

Thanks for the info. I was aware that I was unaware (?) of what Satanists

believe, which is why I put it in ''s, and I know what us Pagans get accused

of by people who don't know our beliefs.

 

> I could go on,as I'm quite into the Left Hand Path(both

> philosophically,and the Entombed album..Jo should understand what I

> mean here,hehe),but I don't wanna scare you all....Any further

> questions,don't hesitate.

 

A very interesting subject!

 

> Hail Satan and Seitan!

 

I would normally say 'Hail and welcome' but I think I'll find out more about

it before I invite him in :-)

 

Jo

 

Ah yes, but ....

 

 

 

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Fraggle

 

> figured you fer one of them heathen satan worshippers!!!!

> ]*douses chris with holy water*

 

Be better to use a sage smudgestick, wouldn't it?

 

> (well, i was gonna douse him with beer, but, that would just be wrong on

soooo many levels)

 

and so sticky!

 

> get thee behind me satan!!

>

> umm..why would you want satan behind you, wouldn't ya want him in front of

ya where you could watch him??

 

> *spins to watch behind his buttocks*

 

No comments .....

 

> (damn stinkin cold dis morning!!!! had frost and ice on my bike!!!

eeeeek!!! warm sunny california, right...)

 

It rained here yesterday, and froze solid overnight - couldn't get in the

car door this morning. Elderflower and Lemon tea, and Echinacea is very

good for helping you get over colds.

 

Jo

 

 

 

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Fraggle

 

> makes ya almost wish the stars would be right, and cthulhu and the elder

gods would wipe the slate clean

> IA! IA!

 

Tell me more - I haven't read the right books (keep meaning to). One of my

Morbid Angel cds is Formulas Fatal To The Flesh, and I keep meaning to do

some reading so I understand all the intricacies of the lyrics.

 

Jo

 

Ah yes, but ...

 

 

 

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Hi Chris

 

> well,it's not true as far as Satanists go. True Satanists do NOT

> practice animal or human sacrifice.

 

I think it depends on exactly which definition of Satanism you use. In terms

of LeVay's " Church of Satan " , you've already said what the philosophies

are....but then there are also people who are often referred to as Satanists

who do practice all sorts of horrible stuff. I think it's probably one of

those things where the term has been used in it's medieval Christian

meaning - which, to be fair, does pre-date LeVay's use of it by a few

centuries :-)

 

BB

Peter

 

 

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Cruel bastards humans aren't they !

Perhaps thats why I no longer feel that sorry when one dies ! ( Except for

children )

Angie

-

<EBbrewpunx

 

Friday, January 18, 2002 12:11 AM

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> saw a video once of cats in a resturant somewhere in asia

> they pulled them out of cages with catch poles, whacked em a few times in

the head, and tossed em in boiling water

> one cat was still alive afterwards, gasping for breathe, as he had been

boiled alive..as they pulled his fur off

> *shudder*

> no worse then stickin a hook thru a chicken's feet, and slicing its neck

as it rumbles along a conveyor belt upside down tho

> ugh

> fraggle

>

> Persian <persian wrote:

>

> >Hi all,

> >

> >On Wed, Jan 16, 2002 at 06:52:16PM -0000, Jo wrote:

> >> Fraggle

> >>

> >> Isn't it strange that people willingly eat lovely little lambs and

cows,

> >> chicken, turkeys, ducks, pigs and fish, and then pretend morality at

eating

> >> dogs!

> >>

> >> Jo

> >>

> >

> >I have my Animal Lib Newsletter here. The lady who runs it has seen

> >a video of the happenings in Korea and I am unable to go into it

> >fully on here.

> >

> >I wrote to the President of the FIFA and also the Korean Govt to protest

> >not so much about the fact that they are eating dog, as Jo and others

> >are saying here what's the difference between a dog or a pig etc etc.

> >

> >I was protesting about the treatment of the dogs before eating.

> >Part of this so called culture is to inflict the most pain possible

> >on the dogs as it is supposed to make a more powerful aphrodisiac (sp?).

> >

> >The dogs are routinely hung alive from branches and beaten with

> >bricks etc, they have bones broken and left like that and more broken,

> >they are also skinned.

> >

> >The lady who runs our Animal Lib was ill after seeing this video which

> >was filmed undercover, or whatever the expression is.

> >

> >From our Victorian Animal LIb standpoint anyway we are only protesting

> >about the cruelty, not about the eating of dogs, although of course

> >we strongly disagree with it, it amounts to the same as protesting

> >about the diet of most of the world doesn't it?!

> >

> >Just thought I would throw my 2 cents in

> >

> >Persian

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >To send an email to -

> >

> >

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Angie

 

> Cruel bastards humans aren't they !

> Perhaps thats why I no longer feel that sorry when one dies ! ( Except

for

> children )

 

I'm sure there are loads of nice humans.

 

Jo

 

 

 

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> It rained here yesterday, and froze solid overnight - couldn't get

in the

> car door this morning. Elderflower and Lemon tea, and Echinacea is

very

> good for helping you get over colds.

 

Jo,

did you hear about that study last year that linked Echinacea to

strokes in women?? Just FYI...

 

Chris X

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, " Peter " <Snowbow@b...> wrote:

> Hi Chris

>

> > well,it's not true as far as Satanists go. True Satanists do NOT

> > practice animal or human sacrifice.

>

> I think it depends on exactly which definition of Satanism you use.

In terms

> of LeVay's " Church of Satan " , you've already said what the

philosophies

> are....but then there are also people who are often referred to as

Satanists

> who do practice all sorts of horrible stuff. I think it's probably

one of

> those things where the term has been used in it's medieval Christian

> meaning - which, to be fair, does pre-date LeVay's use of it by a

few

> centuries :-)

>

> BB

> Peter

 

Yes...but I'm talking about True LaVeyan Satanism,not " devil

worship " ,which is the belief and worshipping of " Satan " as an actual

being,which is just as asinine as worshippin Go---ok,nevermind,I

almost forgot what list this was,I know people take things very not

lightly here,and I'm likely to set off a flame war,and frankly,I

don't have the inbox capacity,the tolerance for stupidity,nor the

time to waste on such petty arguments when we should all concentrate

on discussing all things vegan...and also if Jo and Peter wanna talk

metal haha...but anyway,LaVeyans just view " Satan " as a symbol,and

not an actual being.

 

Chris X

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, " Angie Wright " <angiewright@n...> wrote:

> Cruel bastards humans aren't they !

> Perhaps thats why I no longer feel that sorry when one dies ! (

Except for

> children )

> Angie

 

I'm with you on that...and I'm so disgusted with humans that even

kids deserve what comes to them,cause theyre just gonna grow up to be

adults...I think humanity should just stop breeding altogether..I'm

hopefully getting my vasectomy next month.

 

Chris X

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Chris

 

No. I am sceptical about it, but it would be interesting to read (just so I

can pick fault with the research :-) ) Probably it's like animal

experiements - if you eat two tons of echinacea a day for five years .....

 

Jo

 

> did you hear about that study last year that linked Echinacea to

> strokes in women?? Just FYI...

 

 

 

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Chris

 

> Yes...but I'm talking about True LaVeyan Satanism,not " devil

> worship " ,which is the belief and worshipping of " Satan " as an actual

> being,which is just as asinine as worshippin Go---ok,nevermind,I

> almost forgot what list this was,

 

oh.... go on Chris - I want to know about Satanism. I am aware of Gods as

archetypes in Paganism, and presume this is what you mean about Satanism.

The bit I am unsure of is - is what aspect of Satan is the dominant

characteristic that forms the archetype for Satanists.

 

As far as my understanding goes - the Christian God is split in two - good

and evil, and the evil bit is supposed to be Satan (whereas in Paganism Gods

are complete, and a mixture of good and evil). I am also aware that Satan

was around before the New Testament, so is it this character that is called

upon - and what are his characteristics.

 

> I know people take things very not

> lightly here,and I'm likely to set off a flame war,and frankly,I

> don't have the inbox capacity,the tolerance for stupidity,nor the

> time to waste on such petty arguments when we should all concentrate

> on discussing all things vegan...and also if Jo and Peter wanna talk

> metal haha...but anyway,LaVeyans just view " Satan " as a symbol,and

> not an actual being.

 

Actually, the list is for discussing anything, but not being offensive to

the vegan ideal, so we should be okay.

 

Jo

>

> Chris X

>

>

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In a message dated 1/18/02 9:45:12 AM Pacific Standard Time,

Heartwork writes:

 

<< Fraggle

 

> makes ya almost wish the stars would be right, and cthulhu and the elder

gods would wipe the slate clean

> IA! IA!

 

Tell me more - I haven't read the right books (keep meaning to). One of my

Morbid Angel cds is Formulas Fatal To The Flesh, and I keep meaning to do

some reading so I understand all the intricacies of the lyrics.

 

Jo

>>

 

oh gawd

ummm

lovecraft mythos..a race of ancient beings came to earth millenium ago, this

was there playground, immensely powerful beings, were driven off or sent into

a deep sleep, their cities covered by the ocean, or locked in the ice in

antarctica, etc and so forth

when " the stars are right " , they will return and make this world their's again

not particularly nice beings; evil, destructive, etc

cthulhu

shub niggurath

azothoth

and others.....

IA ! IA!

fraggle

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In a message dated 1/18/02 10:18:00 AM Pacific Standard Time,

Snowbow writes:

 

<< I think it depends on exactly which definition of Satanism you use. In

terms

of LeVay's " Church of Satan " , you've already said what the philosophies

are....but then there are also people who are often referred to as Satanists

who do practice all sorts of horrible stuff. I think it's probably one of

those things where the term has been used in it's medieval Christian

meaning - which, to be fair, does pre-date LeVay's use of it by a few

centuries :-) >>

 

yeah, and those who follow " islam " fly planes into buildings

are they the true muslims? i think not.......

 

little kids(whether actual kids, or thats as far their temperment progressed)

who torture animals or perform murder rituals are about as satanistic as my

left toe....(oh, i'm not satanistic at all, just so you know..i'd have to

beleive in the christian gawd to believe in satan)

its all a matter of perspective

 

fraggle

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lil ol me is getting more and more cynical every second

damn greedy me me me humans

 

 

 

 

In a message dated 1/18/02 1:43:03 PM Pacific Standard Time,

angiewright writes:

 

<< Cruel bastards humans aren't they !

Perhaps thats why I no longer feel that sorry when one dies ! ( Except for

children )

Angie >>

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Only vegan ones Angie

 

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" Jo " <Heartwork

 

Friday, January 18, 2002 11:29 PM

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> Angie

>

> > Cruel bastards humans aren't they !

> > Perhaps thats why I no longer feel that sorry when one dies ! ( Except

> for

> > children )

>

> I'm sure there are loads of nice humans.

>

> Jo

>

>

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In a message dated 1/19/02 2:49:42 AM Pacific Standard Time,

Heartwork writes:

 

<< As far as my understanding goes - the Christian God is split in two - good

and evil, and the evil bit is supposed to be Satan (whereas in Paganism Gods

are complete, and a mixture of good and evil). I am also aware that Satan

was around before the New Testament, so is it this character that is called

upon - and what are his characteristics. >>

 

not really

that more of a duelaist credo, which was considered herisy for a long time

satan was lucifer, who rebelled against god, and was cast out, or will be

cast out or..depends on how you read the bible

the duelist bit began in persia with zorasterism, and spread..

the cathars believed there was a good god(who was invisible, and aloof), and

an evil go\d, satan, known as rex mundi, king of the world..he created the

world and everything material, the spirit is pure and belongs to god...and

fer theire troubles, the cathars were slaughtered by the thousands in the

alibgenisis crusade

see wot you started chris!!

ahahha

oh crap..ok, really going to shave and shower now

bye

cheers

adios

fraggle