Guest guest Report post Posted April 24, 2002 You say you have adopted sobriety... but surely when you smoke you are not really sober? As a smoker, I feel like I'm on a constant runaway train buzz. I'd go to a vegan professional with anything to do with the brain, mind, body or soul. Shopkeepers, dentists (I hate going to the dentist anyway), postmen ... well thats different. Jules , Oliver Slay <oliver@l...> wrote: > why do they have to be vegan? ... does my dentist have to be vegan? ... and > my postman?... the shop keepers? ... and so on? > > i went to one and stopped smoking easily for a couple of months ... first > time i tried it... but then i started to feel all the stress that my smoking > was giving me a break from ... and it became too much ... so i started > smoking again... > > the hypnotherapist had not understood the underlying reasons for my smoking > .. so it was never going to work for long... > > i am now more aware of the stress i have... i have never berated myself for > smoking... there's no point... but i can now go back to a hypnotherapist > armed with more self-knowledge than i had the previous time... and maybe > this time it will last a little longer... and if i am smoking again in a 6 > months time ... i will go again ... it will take a long time... because > tobacco can be a very hard drug to give up when you are really stressed... > but it can be done... > > it costs about £100 or so for hypnotherapy ... there's a good one in > Cambridge... it takes an hour or so ... and it's effective in the short > term... it's not expensive considering you might save that amount over a > three month period of non-smoking... > > > > There is a vegan hypnotherapist in London Vegans who > > specialises in helping > > people to quit smoking, maybe you could find a hypnotherapist > > closer to you > > (probably wouldn't be a vegan though). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 24, 2002 I just personally would prefer it if I can have as many dealings with vegans and as few with animal eaters in my life, that's all, it's not compulsory, just a personal preference, so I share the information if I hear of a vegan who is doing something helpful. Vegans might as well help keep other vegans in business where they can. The Vegan Society also sees the importance of this aspect of the vegan community as they publish a vegan health professionals list. I'd love to have a vegan doctor and dentist personally. Lesley Oliver Slay [oliver] 24 April 2002 15:39 ' ' RE: Re: my physics teacher why do they have to be vegan? ... does my dentist have to be vegan? ... and my postman?... the shop keepers? ... and so on? -+-++++- - one and stopped smoking easily for a couple of months ... first time i tried it... but then i started to feel all the stress that my smoking was giving me a break from ... and it became too much ... so i started smoking again... the hypnotherapist had not understood the underlying reasons for my smoking ... so it was never going to work for long... i am now more aware of the stress i have... i have never berated myself for smoking... there's no point... but i can now go back to a hypnotherapist armed with more self-knowledge than i had the previous time... and maybe this time it will last a little longer... and if i am smoking again in a 6 months time ... i will go again ... it will take a long time... because tobacco can be a very hard drug to give up when you are really stressed... but it can be done... it costs about £100 or so for hypnotherapy ... there's a good one in Cambridge... it takes an hour or so ... and it's effective in the short term... it's not expensive considering you might save that amount over a three month period of non-smoking... > There is a vegan hypnotherapist in London Vegans who > specialises in helping > people to quit smoking, maybe you could find a hypnotherapist > closer to you > (probably wouldn't be a vegan though). ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author, there may be another side to the story you have not heard. --------------------------- Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline> Un: send a blank message to - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 24, 2002 no ... i say i prefer sobriety... when i smoke i am more sober than when i'm drugged with pot or other stuff... there's a huge difference... 'DON'T SMOKE AND DRIVE' ... you don't often see that warning do you? as i said i used to do a few drugs... and one thing i do know .. there are varying levels of sobriety... it depends on the drug ... alcohol is one of the worst offenders against sobriety... that and sleeping pills... :-) there is another level of sobriety ... non-smoking ... but it's a minor step... and not a reason for giving up cigarettes... > > djules_75 [djules_75] > > You say you have adopted sobriety... but surely when you smoke you > are not really sober? As a smoker, I feel like I'm on a constant > runaway train buzz. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 24, 2002 But surely dentistry uses animal tested and animal derived products? So having a vegan dentist means that where possible s/he would use the vegan alternatives, and that would be a good thing? I recall some time ago reading something about a new treatment for teeth or gums derived from pigs, but cannot remember the details (getting old I suppose). It was in Paul's (hubby's) New Scientist. Lesley djules_75 [djules_75] 24 April 2002 17:04 Re: my physics teacher You say you have adopted sobriety... but surely when you smoke you are not really sober? As a smoker, I feel like I'm on a constant runaway train buzz. I'd go to a vegan professional with anything to do with the brain, mind, body or soul. Shopkeepers, dentists (I hate going to the dentist anyway), postmen ... well thats different. Jules , Oliver Slay <oliver@l...> wrote: > why do they have to be vegan? ... does my dentist have to be vegan? ... and > my postman?... the shop keepers? ... and so on? > > i went to one and stopped smoking easily for a couple of months ... first > time i tried it... but then i started to feel all the stress that my smoking > was giving me a break from ... and it became too much ... so i started > smoking again... > > the hypnotherapist had not understood the underlying reasons for my smoking > .. so it was never going to work for long... > > i am now more aware of the stress i have... i have never berated myself for > smoking... there's no point... but i can now go back to a hypnotherapist > armed with more self-knowledge than i had the previous time... and maybe > this time it will last a little longer... and if i am smoking again in a 6 > months time ... i will go again ... it will take a long time... because > tobacco can be a very hard drug to give up when you are really stressed... > but it can be done... > > it costs about £100 or so for hypnotherapy ... there's a good one in > Cambridge... it takes an hour or so ... and it's effective in the short > term... it's not expensive considering you might save that amount over a > three month period of non-smoking... > > > > There is a vegan hypnotherapist in London Vegans who > > specialises in helping > > people to quit smoking, maybe you could find a hypnotherapist > > closer to you > > (probably wouldn't be a vegan though). ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author, there may be another side to the story you have not heard. --------------------------- Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline> Un: send a blank message to - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 24, 2002 Smoking and driving is a bad idea as you could drop the cigarette in your lap and crash the car while you are trying to prevent it setting your trousers on fire... Lesley Oliver Slay [oliver] 24 April 2002 17:41 ' ' RE: Re: my physics teacher no ... i say i prefer sobriety... when i smoke i am more sober than when i'm drugged with pot or other stuff... there's a huge difference... 'DON'T SMOKE AND DRIVE' ... you don't often see that warning do you? as i said i used to do a few drugs... and one thing i do know .. there are varying levels of sobriety... it depends on the drug ... alcohol is one of the worst offenders against sobriety... that and sleeping pills... :-) there is another level of sobriety ... non-smoking ... but it's a minor step... and not a reason for giving up cigarettes... > > djules_75 [djules_75] > > You say you have adopted sobriety... but surely when you smoke you > are not really sober? As a smoker, I feel like I'm on a constant > runaway train buzz. ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author, there may be another side to the story you have not heard. --------------------------- Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline> Un: send a blank message to - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 24, 2002 i'm in no danger of doing that.... > > Lesley Dove [Lesley] > > Smoking and driving is a bad idea as you could drop the > cigarette in your > lap and crash the car while you are trying to prevent it setting your > trousers on fire... > > Lesley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 24, 2002 Ok your dress then.. Lesley Oliver Slay [oliver] 24 April 2002 18:05 ' ' RE: Re: my physics teacher i'm in no danger of doing that.... > > Lesley Dove [Lesley] > > Smoking and driving is a bad idea as you could drop the > cigarette in your > lap and crash the car while you are trying to prevent it setting your > trousers on fire... > > Lesley ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author, there may be another side to the story you have not heard. --------------------------- Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline> Un: send a blank message to - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 24, 2002 Unfortunately -----Yes Which is why I actually felt sorry for your teacher . even tho’ he’s an animal eater ! I teach Science !!!!!. -----Original Message----- djules_75 [djules_75] 24 April 2002 11:11 Re: my physics teacher Are you a teacher? j , " Angie Wright " <angiewright@n...> wrote: > Well even animal eaters have to be treated nicely to get them to listen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 24, 2002 I thought Lesley said animal eaters were psychopaths not people with a mental illness Angie -----Original Message----- Mavreela [nec.lists] 24 April 2002 11:57 RE: Re: my physics teacher >I should think that eating animals and not caring how they suffered and died >should really come under the definition of psychopath. Goodness me, you have such a low opinion of people with mental illnesses? I take great offense that you consider me a psychopath because I also happen to be classed within certain types of mental illness. >So if anyone has a personality disorder it is the animal-eaters, not Jules, >although our sick and twisted society refuses to see it that way. Do you even know what a personality disorder is? >We have to live in a world with most people being effectively little >different from psychopaths in their attitudes, so no wonder some vegans end >up having personality disorders! I will take that as being a definitive no to my question. Michael the psychopath, apparently ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author, there may be another side to the story you have not heard. --------------------------- Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline> Un: send a blank message to - Your use of is subject to the Terms of Service. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 24, 2002 When I was at Uni we all went barefoot .It was the fashion . It was called being a hippy !!!! -----Original Message----- djules_75 [djules_75] 24 April 2002 13:45 Re: my physics teacher wanted to get back to his anthropoid roots, why not? He ended up getting arrested for walking barefoot because the cops thought he was a tramp and was loitering. Then somehow he got put in a mental hospital and they gave him some really strong scientific drug which was supposed to cure him of his 'madness'. He's gone back to live with his mother and he's a vegetable, he doesn't care about anything, he's back on the cigarettes, he used to do art and he doesn't want to > could be further from the truth, please Michael don't misunderstand me. I ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author, there may be another side to the story you have not heard. --------------------------- Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline> Un: send a blank message to - Your use of is subject to the Terms of Service. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 24, 2002 That’s why we have to fight them by not becoming ill Look after your health where you can cos the money grabbers won’t -----Original Message----- djules_75 [djules_75] 24 April 2002 13:45 Re: my physics teacher I say this bloke I'm talking about is a victim of society, but he's classed as mentally ill by dictionaries scientists and control assholes who think there is a particular way that people should live. If things were different, there would still be hunter gatherer societies about, (I wouldn't have a problem with them hunting and killing animals for food, its better than herding Yuppies into Mcdonalds), and he wouldn't be drugged out of his head by some money grabbing scientist. And instead of hunter gatherer societies we have the Lords and Ladies from Snobland breeding dogs to go hunt foxes in private land that they own because of their 'birthright' and it gets mentioned in Parliament, and becomes relevant to animals rights. So this isn't OT. Yeah I'm frustrated. Yeah what I write is frustrating. Fuckit. ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author, there may be another side to the story you have not heard. --------------------------- Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline> Un: send a blank message to - Your use of is subject to the Terms of Service. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 24, 2002 Exactly! I was surprised Michael so misunderstood me. However I am quite used to being misunderstood. Lesley Angie Wright [angiewright]24 April 2002 19:16 Subject: RE: Re: my physics teacher I thought Lesley said animal eaters were psychopaths not people with a mental illness Angie Mavreela [nec.lists] 24 April 2002 11:57 Subject: RE: Re: my physics teacher >I should think that eating animals and not caring how they suffered and died>should really come under the definition of psychopath.Goodness me, you have such a low opinion of people with mental illnesses? I take great offense that you consider me a psychopath because I also happen to be classed within certain types of mental illness.>So if anyone has a personality disorder it is the animal-eaters, not Jules,>although our sick and twisted society refuses to see it that way.Do you even know what a personality disorder is?>We have to live in a world with most people being effectively little>different from psychopaths in their attitudes, so no wonder some vegans end>up having personality disorders!I will take that as being a definitive no to my question.Michael the psychopath, apparently~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author, there may be another side to the story you have not heard.---------------------------Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped?~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline>Un: send a blank message to - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 24, 2002 >Exactly! I was surprised Michael so misunderstood me. However I am quite >used to being misunderstood. Must we really do this... Lesley said: >I should think that eating animals and not caring how they suffered and died >should really come under the definition of psychopath. >So if anyone has a personality disorder it is the animal-eaters, not Jules, >although our sick and twisted society refuses to see it that way. Now as I had not mentioned psychopaths, and Lesley using of " so if " as a conjunction to link personality disorders and psychopaths I hardly think I made a misunderstanding. If you really want I could express it in logical form, but that would be as tedious for me as everyone else! Sufficed to say Lesley claimed Jules is not a psychopath so he does not have a personality disorder, and if that isn't saying that a personality disorder then I don't know what it. I thought we'd already cleared up this misunderstanding. Michael Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 24, 2002 I'm sorry, I just expressed myself badly, I can see what you mean now. No need to go all Vulcan on me Michael. Lesley Mavreela [nec.lists] 24 April 2002 22:01 RE: Re: my physics teacher >Exactly! I was surprised Michael so misunderstood me. However I am quite >used to being misunderstood. Must we really do this... Lesley said: >I should think that eating animals and not caring how they suffered and died >should really come under the definition of psychopath. >So if anyone has a personality disorder it is the animal-eaters, not Jules, >although our sick and twisted society refuses to see it that way. Now as I had not mentioned psychopaths, and Lesley using of " so if " as a conjunction to link personality disorders and psychopaths I hardly think I made a misunderstanding. If you really want I could express it in logical form, but that would be as tedious for me as everyone else! Sufficed to say Lesley claimed Jules is not a psychopath so he does not have a personality disorder, and if that isn't saying that a personality disorder then I don't know what it. I thought we'd already cleared up this misunderstanding. Michael ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author, there may be another side to the story you have not heard. --------------------------- Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline> Un: send a blank message to - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 24, 2002 OK I understand But why smoke it at all ??? Surely it is better to communicate with people when you are mentally in control. Not going to college is not the answer either as you will miss the work Just don’t indulge. He has warned you about what happened to him So why do it ? ..Appreciate having a body that works . Plenty of people are blind/in wheelchairs/mentally retarded etc . I’m presuming you do not have such disabilities so look after what you’ve got Angie -----Original Message----- djules_75 [djules_75] 23 April 2002 21:39 Re: my physics teacher I spoke to him today, apparantly he used to do drugs sometrimes as a teen, he told me of all the people who were at his uni in the sixties who got messed up on drugs. And we both agreed I was in the wrong. I'm not going to college when not in my right mind again. I don't think it was being rude (saying I'm on a chair), why was that rude? I couldn't exactly say, sorry, I'm am not at present capable of coherent speech because I am on illegal drugs, there were other people in the class as well, and the penalty for possession is expulsion from college, possibly a prison sentence. I just wanted to be left alone at the time, I wasn't in control of my own actions, I felt stupid anyway. I was polite when he asked if I was ill, but when he asked what I was on, I had to hide it, if only because of the laws of the country. Anyway I've recked many of my brain cells, I'm not going to be smoking pot again in a while. Jules Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 25, 2002 :-) funny i don't drive... , " Lesley Dove " <Lesley@v...> wrote: > > Ok your dress then.. > > Lesley > > > Oliver Slay [oliver@l...] > > i'm in no danger of doing that.... > > > > > Smoking and driving is a bad idea as you could drop the > > cigarette in your > > lap and crash the car while you are trying to prevent it setting your > > trousers on fire... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 25, 2002 it seems he's jumping to his own conclusions a lot today... lost his usual diplomacy... , " Lesley Dove " <Lesley@v...> wrote: > > Exactly! I was surprised Michael so misunderstood me. However I am quite > used to being misunderstood. > > Lesley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 25, 2002 at least he didn't insult you by asking you to take a long time to try and understand what came out of badly expressing yourself... , " Lesley Dove " <Lesley@v...> wrote: > > I'm sorry, I just expressed myself badly, I can see what you mean now. > No need to go all Vulcan on me Michael. > > Lesley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 25, 2002 Nor do I, and nor does hubby. Getting out on public transport with three kids is quite an adventure. I don't often wear dresses either. I made an exception for my aunt's wedding recently. I wore tights and ended up discarding them after an hour or two as they got laddered. I hate tights. Lesley zorgster [oliver] 25 April 2002 04:26 Re: my physics teacher :-) funny i don't drive... , " Lesley Dove " <Lesley@v...> wrote: > > Ok your dress then.. > > Lesley > > > Oliver Slay [oliver@l...] > > i'm in no danger of doing that.... > > > > > Smoking and driving is a bad idea as you could drop the > > cigarette in your > > lap and crash the car while you are trying to prevent it setting your > > trousers on fire... ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author, there may be another side to the story you have not heard. --------------------------- Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline> Un: send a blank message to - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 25, 2002 I am not a psychopath. I have a personality disorder: I am vegan (and everyone else who I co-exist with (except online)isn't). , Mavreela <nec.lists@m...> wrote: > Sufficed to say Lesley claimed Jules is not a psychopath so he does not > have a personality disorder, and if that isn't saying that a personality > disorder then I don't know what it. > > I thought we'd already cleared up this misunderstanding. > > Michael Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 25, 2002 >I know, I noticed he does tend to want to tediously dissect everything >(words not animals) What's the point in debate if it takes place at a superficial level? I just happen to be good at critical thinking, there's no want about it, either I say nothing, or I express what comes to me. A lot of the time I can't be bothered to say owt, especially because it ends up like this! As for the case of mental illness, I have a personal interest and there is a lot of ignorance and prejudice about it that does offend me so I won't hold back. >but we still love him, don't we? I would think so. Some people though really hate me for it (not here). Michael Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 25, 2002 I'd also like to understand better about mental illness, as one vegan friend of mine is a mental health services user but I'm not really sure what is supposed to be wrong with her, as she seems to me more sane than most people. She has always been vague with me as to what she is diagnosed with and so I worry that she thinks it would be a problem for me to accept, it wouldn't of course, but I wonder if she thinks I am a slave to popular prejudices about mental illness. I know that no-one will believe me when I say I am depressed, it's a bit like the problems I have had with the breathing and not being able to get accepted as being asthmatic. Maybe you will think I am making a fuss over nothing, but I don't see how it is possible to be as permanently miserable and dissatisfied as I am, always wanting something out of life I can't see a way to getting, so frustrated by this lack of opportunity to live my life my way, without it adding up to depression. You know more about it than I do. So tell me, am I depressed, do I have a personality disorder? Or is it something else? Oh and don't worry what that MrBig/Talking thinks of you. I don't care what he thinks of me. Lesley Mavreela [nec.lists] 25 April 2002 13:11 RE: Re: my physics teacher >I know, I noticed he does tend to want to tediously dissect everything >(words not animals) What's the point in debate if it takes place at a superficial level? I just happen to be good at critical thinking, there's no want about it, either I say nothing, or I express what comes to me. A lot of the time I can't be bothered to say owt, especially because it ends up like this! As for the case of mental illness, I have a personal interest and there is a lot of ignorance and prejudice about it that does offend me so I won't hold back. >but we still love him, don't we? I would think so. Some people though really hate me for it (not here). Michael ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author, there may be another side to the story you have not heard. --------------------------- Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline> Un: send a blank message to - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 25, 2002 hey Mikky your so fine... > > Lesley Dove [Lesley] > > I know, I noticed he does tend to want to tediously dissect everything > (words not animals), but we still love him, don't we? > > Lesley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 25, 2002 , " Lesley Dove " <Lesley@v...> wrote: but I don't see how it is possible to be as > permanently miserable and dissatisfied as I am, always wanting something out > of life I can't see a way to getting, so frustrated by this lack of > opportunity to live my life my way, without it adding up to depression. Thats how I feel. But the fact that I smoke means I don't care anymore. (don't start smoking though, it really doesn't help much) jules Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 25, 2002 No danger of that, I can't bear to be near it and seem to be severely allergic to smoke in general, esp cigarettes, but to my way of thinking what I get is a perfectly healthy and natural reaction to something bad. I also think it is very wrong for parents, especially pregnant or breastfeeding mums to smoke. I hate to see parents setting such an example to children, even if it is outdoors and the kids don't get it forced onto them. Lesley djules_75 [djules_75] 25 April 2002 18:25 Re: my physics teacher , " Lesley Dove " <Lesley@v...> wrote: but I don't see how it is possible to be as > permanently miserable and dissatisfied as I am, always wanting something out > of life I can't see a way to getting, so frustrated by this lack of > opportunity to live my life my way, without it adding up to depression. Thats how I feel. But the fact that I smoke means I don't care anymore. (don't start smoking though, it really doesn't help much) jules ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author, there may be another side to the story you have not heard. --------------------------- Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline> Un: send a blank message to - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
